 Welcome to ToffeeTV and it's the Opposition Match Preview, League United versus Edderton. I am joined by Oscar from AllleadsTV. Don't forget this game is on BT Sport. 8 o'clock all 10 of the Premier League games this week will be shown exclusively between the 30th of August to the 1st of September on BT Sport. So Oscar, welcome to ToffeeTV, how are you? Yeah mate, good, good. Bit frustrating yesterday, bit of a, you know, obviously losing to Brighton away, but it was a little bit of a welcome back to reality kind of thing. I think in reality, seven points in the first four games is a really good start for the season for us. Defensively we look better, going forward we look like we've got a goal for it, but I'm not going to get too carried away. This league can, you know, get you when you're not expecting it. So, but yeah, happy at this moment in time mate, and yeah, looking forward to the game on Tuesday, definitely. Yeah, obviously you've had a good start, really two home wins, a draw against Southampton, which really you should have won as well, being 2-0 up, and obviously a defeat to Brighton, which, you know, one little defeat to Brighton is the worst thing in the world. They are a team in it, very much on the up. So it has been a really good start. Yeah, definitely exceeded expectations. I mean that Chelsea game was an example where it just all came together. I thought, to be honest, it wasn't just a free nil. We had three shots, all three shots went in. We deserved the free nil win, which genuinely looked like, you know, the better team in that game. So it's definitely something to take from. I think the Wolves win as well was quite an underrated win. I think Wolves will come good as the season goes on. But the Southampton one was disappointing, obviously, you know, you go two nil up. But again, we dominated the first 70 minutes, we just maybe didn't quite make the substitutions that we needed to make in that game when it went 2-1, when the momentum shifted a little bit. But all in all, mate, I can't complain at all, obviously we've gone through the cup as well. So, you know, it's a, if you're off of me, this on the eve of the Wolves game, 100% of they're taking it, I'd have probably taken five points in the first four games. So to win two, draw one, definitely a good start for us. Yeah, if someone offered me five points now, I'd be delighted. There's been lots of similarities between the clubs since you came back up to the Premier League. The first season, I think we finished on the same points. Last season, there was only one position between us. And obviously, we both had to struggle through that relegation fight. Obviously, for us, it went to the second to last game. For you, it went to the last game. And then we went and both sold our Brazilian Talismans and had to sort of rebuild off the back of that. But what was, certainly what was the, what was for you, the back end of last season like, because I remember you came to go to some park and we beat you, we beat you 3-0. And obviously, we both changed managers as well. And that, that to me was the first sign before that. I hadn't really thought leads were in trouble. But that was like one of the first signs that I thought, Oh God, these are, these are, these have got a bit of a problem here. But so how was, how was that back into the season for you? And obviously going to Brentford for the last game and having to pick up the win, which you did. It's funny you mentioned obviously the Edson game last season, because I remember going back on the train from that game thinking, Oh no. Oh no, we are in Bavaria. You know, I think before that, as similar to yourself, I was quite, you know, blasé about it. I was thinking we'll be okay, we'll be okay. It's not as good as what we did in the first season, but we'll still be okay. You know, we just need key players to come back. But it was that moment where I thought, this is going to be tough now. You know, we're losing the game like that. Obviously a massive six point swing as well. And it did prove to be the case. But the Brentford game, I mean, was one of the best, one of my best memories as a Leeds fan, which seems crazy after such a terrible season. But it just, just everything about it was just unbelievable. I mean, Raphini's performance, what a way to finish your Leeds career, scoring the goals, keep the team in the league. And, you know, it's just amazing. I remember traveling up to London on the day of the game and seeing loads of Everton fans, absolutely buzzing, obviously, that you stayed up against Palace. And I think you were playing Arsenal, I think. Obviously, he's already stayed up. And I was thinking, I was so envious kind of thing, but obviously, because I wasn't expecting anything, mate, I was, to be honest, I kind of accepted that, you know, the week before I felt the damage of being done when we didn't win that final home game against Brighton. And the way we finished the season, I thought the damage is done here. Brentford's a bogey team. We know how good they are at home, but we just produced when it matters. And I think it showed the mental strength of this team. I think at times this season, you've seen a real mental resilience of this team, you know, against Wolves at home, you have to go one down within five minutes of the start of the season. And to produce a performance that we did after that, you know, I think there's a real resilience about this team. But that day, just being absolutely incredible, mate, probably very similar to your day, going to the Park against Crystal Palace, where, you know, obviously different scenarios, I know that much, but I'll never forget that night in London for the rest of my life, to be honest with you. It was just an unbelievable party. It was about five, six thousand leads, fans who didn't even have tickets to the game. So obviously we all fell outside the ground. And I don't think Brentford's ever seen anything like that in their history, to be certainly honest with you. And they've got love in the game against Brentford, but it must have been quite a day. Yeah, it did certainly seem to me. Obviously putting them to follow that on that day was basically stress-free. It was an amazing team around. Oh, it's took years of the life, mate. There's no doubt about it. Yeah, 100%. I'm actually only 23, but following everything just made me look like this. Jesse Marsh, he came in as manager, obviously towards the back end of the season. You'd had, obviously, BLC who was much loved, obviously brought you back to the Premier League. There's obviously stereotypes about Jesse Marsh because he is American and because of obviously the whole sort of Ted Lasso thing, which I love, by the way, Ted Lasso is amazing. But obviously it is a strange dynamic, isn't it? Having an American manager who don't get me wrong, he's done very, very well through the Red Bull system. So what's he being like, you know, having as a manager? It's been a strange one really because Marcelo Bielsa, I think if you at the polls, you know, 90% of Leeds fans at the time when Marcelo Bielsa was sacked, I think 90% would have said it's the wrong decision. And I probably wouldn't have been on that side of things. And listen, I never wanted Bielsa to go, but you have to give your credit to Jesse Marsh who kept us in the league. And he's really built that foundation with Leeds fans already. He's a totally different personality than Marcelo Bielsa, you know, totally different personality. But to start with, listen, it was in this most stressful situation you can come into, the fact that Leeds worked 16 years to get back into the Premier League and we're about to throw it away in the first season with fans back in the ground was just, it was that pressure as well on it, you know, the fact that if we go down this time, you've got obviously Raphinha, Calvin, Phillips already left, but then you're looking at Mellier, Jacques Harrison, you know, Rodrigo, loads of other players on top of that. And it totally scuppers the whole plan that we had in place. But I have to say, I think he's got better by the week. I think we're seeing more and more what a Jesse Marsh team's about. I think the pressing, certainly this season compared to last season, since Jesse Marsh has come in has improved as well. I think we look better off the ball. There's still little bits and pieces we need to improve. But in terms of recruitment, I can't have any complaints so far. We've definitely improved the squad, even though we've lost our two best players, our two best players by far from last season. And he's a big part of that. And he just galvanizes the whole football club and tactically, I think he's under the races. You know, I think that Brent, the game, he made some big, big calls. You know, the last two games of the season, really, he made some big, big calls. We have an injury crisis. And ultimately it was those calls that kept us in the league. And the thing for me is, mate, I'm similar to obviously what was discussed on my channel. My expectation in season is just nothing like anything what last season was. Nothing like that stress of the last game of the season, because our last four or five games were an absolute nightmare anyway. But just as long as we're safe, maybe a bit of a cut run on top of that, I'll be happy this season. So to start and be fifth in the table, yeah, we might drop it down a few places after today, is a very, very strong start to the season. It's done nothing but help Jesse Marsh's calls. And the football is different to what it was under Bielzer. But I don't think you can ever get anything as aesthetically pleasing as what Bielzer ball was at full, full pelts. But in a different way, you know, it really does get the crowds energised off it. You know, when you see the team pressing them, really, probably a lot like what, what it is, like Goddison, you know, you really want to see it's not all this pretty football of sorts, but it's the team at it and making hard work of it for the opposition, no matter how good or bad they are. And that's and that's all you really want to see as a Leeds fan. We are, you know, we have this reputation, but we don't have to, we're not that demanding as fans really, we just want to see 100% and that's totally what we're seeing all season so far. Yeah, I think that's all you want to see and as, as we talked about over on your channel, that's something like as an Evertonian we want and that's what Frank Lampard expects as well. But I think the thing with Jesse Marsh is I do, I do, what I do like about the whole thing is obviously you've brought in Harrison, you've brought in Tyler Adams who so far seemed to be very, very good signings. It has created this, it has created something to talk about hasn't it? Leeds are suddenly in the spotlight has been with the, from the American angle and you've got a lot of people, you know, rooting for you over in America now and listen, if you haven't got Believe t-shirts or Major Leeds soccer t-shirts on your channel then you need to sort that out immediately. That'll be a gold mine for you but the whole thing that, you know, it's different isn't it? It feels different having an American manager and him speaking in press conferences and just being a little bit different from everyone else and what I mean, I'm not talking about the accent or that just, you're right, I think his outlook is a lot more positive than managers who come through the British system even to the media. I think the way just in general American sports people talk to the media is a lot more open and they give a lot more of themselves and a lot more insight whereas I think managers in Britain are a lot more closed off and don't want to give anything away because they fear that they'll be hit by obviously the media whereas, you know, the way Jesse Marsh comes across it feels very open and therefore feels like someone that you can really get behind. Yeah, absolutely and I think it was just an adjustment at first I think that when I saw the appointment being made, you know, over the couple of days of Marcelo getting sacked, I was quite happy about it and obviously he was a relatively unknown, you know, manager but I just remember seeing his Leipzig team in the Champions League and Salzburg in the Champions League and there was a game when obviously everyone kind of started to hear about Irving Harland and Salzburg played Liverpool and Anfield and they absolutely took the game to him. This was when Liverpool won the league, you know, well, when Liverpool won the league, you know, it was that... Did he really win the league? I did a little dig at Liverpool, let's be fair, I thought you quite like that little dig. I'm not 100% sure they did win the league. I did a little dig at Liverpool, let's be fair, but yeah, when you see Salzburg go there and I think they lost 4-3 in the end but he put in a superb performance and I'm thinking, listen, we're not going to play at Liverpool every week or Man United, Man City in the Premier League every single week, so, you know, it can work for me, it can work and I think obviously with the Amundsen Tider Adams coming in, I think definitely American football, American soccer, American football, whatever you want to call it, so she's definitely on the up. I think you have got a American national team that's definitely improving. I think we'll give England the really good test at the World Cup as well and there's some really good players coming through and I think having that link, it's a bit comparable-ish to what Wolves have got with Portuguese players to an extent. I do expect it's going to continue, I'm not certain on that, but I do expect for future transfer windows we will continue to sign players of this kind of ilk. I'm not saying we're going to sign Christian Pulisic, but we're going to sign someone who could be the next Christian Pulisic and I think ultimately the US has a massive focus on soccer, on football at its moment in time for the World Cup in 2026, they want to, they are hosting that World Cup but they want to be absolutely asset in that one and listen, I can only see it improving in that case and we've got that link already built there, so it's clever in a way in terms of what we've done and obviously this other players have come in who are not Americans, so it's not just the case that we're already signing American footballers now, but they've all been an absolute breath of fresh air, Jesse Marsh, Brendan Aronson, Tyler Adams and as you say it's not just about what they're doing on the pitch, the results, the goals, the assists, all these different bits and pieces. It's the personality, Jesse Marsh is a genius in press conferences now, in terms of how he plays the press, he froze in the words soccer from time to time, just almost as a joke at himself but thinking I'm laughing at myself, so you can't laugh at me kind of thing, he is just playing mind games with the media kind of thing because what they were having to go in for, I think he did an interview or a press conference, he did two last season that really stick out, there was one when he spoke about Marcelo Bielza over training players, he was honest and maybe some would say a little bit too honest and there was another one where he was talking about how he likes motivational quotes, he was talking about Mother Teresa and Gandhi and things like that and then listen it did raise a lot of eyebrows and you know it's not something we're used to but now I think Jesse Marsh has learned from that and now he plays them, he almost laughs at himself kind of things and the media can't laugh at him and it's amazing really but in terms of Adams and Aronson again personality wise, there is this thing about American sports people, I do think in general as you kind of alluded to are a little bit more emotional and I think Leeds fans really respond to that in that kind of sense, you know you see Adams, he's only about five foot eight, five foot nine but he just puts absolutely everything into every tackle, every pass, you know Brendan Aronson again only slight but part of goals kind of thing you know and hopefully it serves as well this season and you have to wait and see how good they can be because I don't really know how good they can be right right now, you know obviously it's easy to get carried away with Adams and Aronson and that but let's just see over a full season what they can do but so far superb starts from both. Yeah that's it isn't it, it is a long season and things change all the time but you are right about the American players, we have them you know we've had lots of American players over the time in fact we were pretty, we were sort of where you are now 10 years ago when we had the collection of American players and a good solid following over in the States which we still have and we've been on tour this summer there and that hardcore still there and the way if you can catch that right it can be huge, it can be huge, I've been so annoyed at editing for the last 10 years of failing to capture the American market in terms of the plays we've already had and the potential to bring in others as well not just from a PR point of view but from a foot. You know meet Americans or go to America, Americans in general are fascinated by the city of Liverpool because it's so different to pretty much every other city in Europe in terms of what it's like and you think it's a real open goal for like Everton really. I know and they missed it which is which is very much evident but no it seems that this and it seems to be working for you guys you're getting, you've had a really good start of the season you pulled yourselves out of at the end of last season so you know why not feel buoyancy you know we the league table you know is looking all right for you at the moment and as long as you're enjoying your football and you go on the match and the people are doing what you want them to do then I think just right now in the age of football we live in right now that's sort of all we can ask for isn't it at the moment because football is you know we know that we know about the top two we know about the top six and the Champions League feels like a million miles away for our clubs even though you know we are traditional big clubs I suppose at the moment it's just about going the match and see if you're seeing those players giving everything for you then you can't really ask for you know too much more at this at this point. No absolutely not and I think obviously you mentioned about the league table but I think this league this season again it's only early days but it feels to me like it's the highest quality Premier League I've seen in quite a while to be honest you know you seem like the likes of Fulham you know who I kind of expected from being honest I was kind of banking on Fulham I know Bournemouth probably are going to be really struggle but I was banking on Fulham and Bournemouth being 19 and 20 and it's just the case of 18 and I was all battling out for 18 but again you look at the likes of Fulham coming up the forest I mean the equipment they're doing you know they're still going they're still going and I can't remember the league being this high quality you know in terms of across the boards really and it'd be interesting obviously we kind of say these kind of things all the time but I certainly do but it does feel a little bit different this season it does feel like you look at every single team sheet you come to play and you're thinking how's he playing for them how's he playing for them you know every single team's got like at least one kind of like superstar if not two or three you know if you go to the team yeah and I think the other thing you have to factor in as well as that six-week break yeah for the World Cup you know a lot of teams are going to be able to refresh the batteries you know in recharge the batteries in that period of time so a lot of teams that traditionally struggle into December into January that those players will have a really good break because obviously not not everyone's going to be involved in the World Cup of course and that that throws a span on the works that we've never seen in the Premier League before and that that gives everyone that chance to restock and come back fresh for for January and the rest of the season so and because we've had such a long opening to the season as well and the transfer window still isn't shut it makes it one of I know we've just come off the back of two very strange seasons with Covid but it does make it one of the most unique Premier League seasons we've ever we've ever experienced so you're absolutely right that makes you feel like it's open for a lot of teams to do something this season and there is a lot of quality about yeah absolutely and you know even things like cup competitions obviously it's going to be really condensed and around January time your your big hitters you know your Man City's your Liverpool's your Arsenal's I don't think it'll be taking things like the League Cup that seriously come January because a lot of loads of Premier League games a lot of players just coming back from the World Cup because you'd imagine a lot of them will get to the latter stages of it as we've kind of said you know if you keep yourself in the cup competitions and in and around that mid-table spot who knows what you can do you know who knows what you can do. I'm not going to get too carried away about that just yet but you know if we can get into that first I think 16 games before the World Cup if we can get ourselves into a decent kind of position you never really know you know we have got quite a big you know I think our biggest problem you know is being the squad depth over the last couple of years but this season you know I think we played the League Cup the other day but I thought we had a totally different 11 out there and it was okay you know what it could you know if it has to it could possibly do a job in the Prem obviously injuries you can never you can never count for injuries can you but I think we're more covered this season I think it's less a case of last season if Calvin Phillips got injured the stats for our points per game I think it halved I think it's genuinely halved over the last two years Raphine it's probably even worse than that now I just think you know if one player did get injured obviously you don't want that situation to happen I think we kind of be okay and that's in that case so I think this season is a season where if you are heavily reliant on one or two players you might have a bit of a problem because if you get deep into the World Cup you know who knows but I think Everton to be fair from outside and looking in Everton seems to be a little bit like that as well we've got a lot of you know good players in terms of but you don't seem overly reliant on you know individuals I don't know is that fair to say I don't know we're not overly hands on individuals because because there's not one we don't have amazing play like one or two amazing players although we have a lot of plays at the same standard so yeah we're not over reliant on we're probably reliant on Dominic Arvalune because he's our our main striker and we haven't had the backup yet which is which is Mopai who'll probably be involved in this game but so he is the one we're over reliant on just because he's the only one we've had so but everyone else you're right everyone else there's probably two in every position now most of them are very very similar so um yeah which is it's not that's not a good that doesn't feel like a positive thing to me though so but there you go there you go that's where we are born but it's like it's a necessary evil kind of thing I think to keep you in the league I think all to push up the table yeah I think you can't eat that to be honest yeah definitely um yeah so what are you what are you expecting from this game then yeah I mean it's hard to say I think obviously you guys have improved defensively I think we've improved defensively um well yeah I think it's one of those games where I just hope we use the crowds you know like we did against Chelsea like we did against Wolves we've got to start the game well for me because if we do let Everson settle you have got the players to hurt us you know in terms of DeMarco de Grey, Dwight MacNeill in the past of course there's problems you know certainly Dwight MacNeill playing for Burnley has been you know a problem for us I do like Patterson as well um who plays at Wingback I think for you guys is it right Wingback and you know in Presby in that Chelsea game I think it was and yeah I think he's a decent player our slight weakness at this moment in time is defending on the sides I think obviously the full backs we do defend very narrow at this moment in time and Brighton exploited that so I imagine Frank Lampard will have done his homework on that and it's something we need to solve as a team but yeah we play a really high line so I think there will be chances both sides to be honest um it's just a case of who's more clinical I do yeah I think we can win this game I do think we can win this game but I'm not gonna get overconfident about any game this season because I know what our record against Frank Lampard's been like in recent years I think we've lost three I think against Lampard's and can see that a lot of goals yeah it'd be interesting it'd be interesting it will be I think it'll be a tight game um yeah I'm open for something out of the game as I said our way record is absolutely abysmal it really is it's it's shockingly bad so be fair though mate we are the masters um certainly over the last couple of years I've just whenever something like that has been the case I think we had one oh yeah we had a team I think it's QPR in the championship having one for 16 games we were top of the table the beat is 1-0 then we we lost our promotion by that literally like three points I think so I'm not gonna get too carried away on that mate yeah yeah we as I said this our clubs have got so many similarities we do that as well we both we both brought out terrible badges that the fans rejected there's so many similarities between our clubs it's incredible um but there you go Oscar from All Leeds TV thank you for joining us on the match preview where can we find you yeah absolute pleasure mate you can find us 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