 So I noticed on a different topic. I noticed that you've been doing these videos on Carl Jung I'm just channeling the Jungian drum beats archetypes. Okay, please know because up until now I understood everything you said and I like that so What motivated you is this part of this kind of BS detector it is BS detector I wouldn't have cared about him were it not for the fact now people say oh You're doing this because despite the fact that you pretend your friends with Jordan Peterson You really hate him now because he's successful Right, but and the reason which I stated in my first It was that I receive a lot of emails and requests to weigh in on Carl Jung Because he has been reinvigorated into the conversation by Jordan, right? And therefore what I was doing there is after receiving the 13th trillion message asking me Hey, Dr. Sad, can you give us a sense of what you think of the astrologer of the human mind and grand bullshit or Carl Jung? This is these are my words and so so now I sort of gave a bit of a thing with with this Trilogy of young in that clips that I did but now people are upset. Why aren't you spending more time? Actually delving into dismantling each of his positions and my general point was For the same reasons that I'm not going to come up with a series as to why Creationism is bullshit and it's not because I'm running away from it Look has he said anything that makes sense? Of course, he even used as an evolutionary psychologist He used evolutionary ideas some of them are wrong But he certainly had some very nice insights about how evolutionary theory might be relevant in shaping But is a lot of the stuff that he's written and said complete mystical occultism new age utter non-scientific bullshit 100% and I'm not gonna waste my time re-prosecuting a case when Psychologists have left young 50 years ago. Yeah, yeah, and and So what do you think Jordan is doing? I mean is he is he finding the better stuff there or is he bought into some of the BBS I I think it's it's a bit of both. I think that the I think that Jordan's message Look when when I sit down with Jordan on on my shows or in other times when we met and so on and we're doing sort of Just hardcore science stuff It's fantastic But his greater message where you know, he's he's also a self-help guru and so on in a sense It is more powerful if it includes elements of the young yin stuff and the quasi religious stuff and that right you become a lot more of an Apostle and a true guru of how to lead one's life if you incorporate some of that mystical Bullshit, so I don't know if he does it willfully or whether he's done it because it ultimately taps into some of his greater goals But in a sense I'm quite disappointed in it and as I explained in my clip that I recently released where I said look Jordan and I could be great Allies on 95% of things, but I could disagree with him on some things and that's not because I hate him or I'm jealous of him That's because I wouldn't have the intellectual integrity that people know me for if I suddenly say Oh, but when it comes to Jordan if he ever says anything that I consider bullshit, I'll keep my mouth shut That makes no sense. Yeah, no, and I think I Think that's absolutely right. I mean people are so afraid of You know intellectuals criticizing one another. I mean, but that's what we do, right? I mean part of what we do is we debate ideas We discuss ideas as long as it doesn't become personal as long as what we're talking about is in the realm of ideas This is what we do and to stay silent when somebody else is saying something that you think is bullshit is wrong It's just it's not honest and look I'll give you one or two examples of other things which I'm not sure if I've waited on this publicly or not So, you know Jordan argues about, you know, how could you have morality without this? Judeo-Christian foundation. We would each be these selfish Psychopathic we can talk about selfish. I mean you can talk about the use of that word And so when I when I when I see something like this, I mean it really holds me back it to me That statement would be like me saying on a public forum Everybody knows that the earth is flat. There is no proof that the earth is not flat And so that position that there is no clear unequivocal unassailable scientific basis of morality is so outlandish that it borders on saying that the earth is flat So when I now criticize that position of Jordan, it's not I hate Jordan. I love Jordan Jordan is a lovely guy He's a friend. I would love to have him over for dinner. But do I think that that particular statement is false? Yes Yeah, and I and we will we agree on that completely We might come out with a different outcome of what morality is but we agree that I mean it's ridiculous And but it's a commonly held belief. I mean Jordan is not unusual here Jordan is the mainstream I think I think we're the ones who are unusual, you know Sam Harris says we can bridge the is art gap I believe we can you know I believe we can bridge the is art gap that's that science does lead to morality You can you can find more, you know, you can find your moral values and virtues from a scientific analysis of human nature and of reality but But the common view You know I reflected by Jordan and prego and Ben Shapiro But but really by everybody out there is that no you need some External something and that is not understandable to give you morality. Otherwise you become a motorist Otherwise you become an animal with no capacity to reason and control yourself. I always say that, you know We're not for the Torah. I would right now be looking to decapitate puppies and rape their Their headless bodies it is only through reading Deuteronomy and the other the five books of Moses that I refrain from raping dead puppies, right? I mean, it is so laughable that was and by the way the reason why I feel attention in in criticizing Jordan because on the one hand he is a friend, you know, absolutely other hand as he is becoming bigger Then my commitment to truth Supercedes my affection for you for our friendship, right? And so I'm torn right because I'm because I don't want to be attacking him in the same frontal No, nonsense way that I sometimes can and so I'm torn right because I do think that there are so many things on which him And I are such Sympathical allies freedom of speech and all right, but for example when it comes to postmodernism and his attacks on postmodernism And my attacks on postmodernism, that's great But then if I ask you so do you believe in God and your answer is what do you mean by do? Yeah, I believe in God then I'm taken back So are you now satirizing postmodernist or have you become the king of postmodernist, right? So this is why I'm a bit conflicted regarding Jordan is because I think in the grand scheme of scales It's fantastic. What's happened with him and I only wish him the best But I'd like for him to cut down a bit on the bullshit But I think you get the Torah or wrong because my reading of the Torah They actually teach you how to decapitate puppies and I mean, I mean, I I remember those passages For those of you who say we only criticize Islam look We're criticizing now the holy books of Judaism and we think they're also bullshit You see I do it all the time so people are used to it for me But you know, yes I mean there's no free speech in in Judaism when Moses come down down for the mountain with the with the 10 commandments and some of the Jews are worshiping a golden calf He doesn't calmly put them down go over and say, you know, you have your freedom of religion go do your thing Just leave us alone He drops them because he's so angry He picks up a sword with this with his brother and slaughtered as I think it's 30,000 people that day and God And God rewards him right and he gets a reward from God for doing that because he stood up for the true religion So don't give me this Religion a piece about Judaism or about Christianity none of them are religions a piece faith does not go well with peace Exactly, right because because it's only reason. It's only reason It's only a capacity to argue and debate and use reality as the standard of truth that allows For peace because then the truth we can discuss it but once it's my faith versus your faith Yeah, well and earlier you were talking about, you know, any idea should be debated I mean, what's the peer review process, right? I mean, I spend years working on some project right years to come up with the topic and then collect the data and then write the paper and then you send it off to a journal and Let me summarize it for you. You're shit. You're shit. You're shit. You're shit. Go away. We're rejecting it, right? I don't go on a jihad. That's how it's I expect that for my paper to eventually be published It has to pass the highest level of scrutiny So why am I subjected to that lens? But Islam or Judaism or Jungian bullshit is not right. So everything is fair game. Absolutely. Absolutely