 And here we are Hooray, we did it wonderful world of year four of a fab technically, right? This is beginning of your four Yeah, how does it how does it feel? Oh, you know? Feel it feels four ish you can kind of feel the four or three Three was like reading four is like staring at me Crawling toward you Crawling yes in a very I don't think it would a four a four has one leg So it would just hop around maybe. Oh, I would assume that it just has a little stick arms and legs He's just on the floor trying to Sort of wriggle around and get toward you because his body is so deformed or in the floor He's pretty poor Does everyone says you know zero? He's fat and stuff, but so well. Yeah, I mean, he's you know, he's well rounded He's work. He's working on it though. Jesus. I mean, I just I think he's happy. He doesn't care He's like, oh, yeah, look at all you guys with your weird fucking body shapes, but I am the fat one, okay If he works out enough will he become a three? Four we become an eight does that imply does that imply that a one? It's like best you can be Maybe one's anorexic. Maybe she has those limitations Because I could believe that a one is anorexic just looking by the shape of it Just a it's just like a that's like a line What about the one that's got the little pointy thing at the top and then the at the bottom of the wine cross got a big nose What two feet big feet? Stick it out either side. Yeah, just to waddle around. I feel like all letters waddle What with the no legs Zero can roll, right? I guess it's three could like turn into an M and then move itself by like Like Yeah, he's like a crab in a way. Yeah, something like the Japanese horror movies where it like it's sped up as it runs towards you And it slows back down when it gets close. Yeah Oh, you know the um in the ring when the the creepy girl when she is walking Uh towards the the TV screen and comes out They had her do that backwards When they filmed it and then they reversed it so that it looked really weird and unnatural Ah, that makes sense. That's why it looks so yeah, that's why it looks so creepy It just seems to be a trope with them. Like, you know in the in the grudge you got the upside down crawling creatures I think and and stuff and They'll either do like the reversey stuff. Well, they'll just Sped them up a little bit. So they're just they're just everything seems wrong Yeah, just something about it. It's off. Yeah They they just they they just did um They shot her in 48 fps and everybody else at 24. So some people would complain Some people wouldn't notice unless he pointed it out to them But but some people were like, yeah, it's just something creepy about her. I don't like it I don't like it And then they use bits of it for the American remakes and it's like, you know, I guess you got that bit The ring Um, well, all of them, right the grudge got around here remakes. There's probably a whole bunch more that I haven't seen I haven't seen there's so many because I'm not really that into horror movies Especially with all the ones coming out these days that just seem so unappealing and uninteresting Like the nun and stuff like that or the boba duke I just like I couldn't I could not possibly care any less Yeah, like I'm most not interested in horror films It's like Hill House and Black Matter those are like weird homilies, you know, it's scary Well, they aren't rags You're boring I feel like that might like why I like them is because they're so character focused like this character work going on The horror elements What I'm there for Well, I think we tried to argue and maybe we will again someday that um actually scarier than Hill House because of The reality of the existence in that house Yeah, I mean I feel like that's totally valid point And you appreciate episode five and what it's telling you Beyond the surface in terms of this is what it's like Yeah, to be aware of what it's like which Peter is clearly aware Yeah, uh, yeah, it doesn't it's not fun Ah So how is everybody look chaps all here doing great things are magical. I'm glad everyone Was able to make it today. I'm glad that we're all here In continuity People have just finished 150 and they're like, whoa Now back to regular episodes no more of that 24 hour nonsense Yeah And you know what happened that that little spundo man got his got his trailer come out Sponder boy. Yeah Sponder boy. I don't know how trailers range boy jr. Well, how many trailers nowadays with like the copyright stuff? I'm assuming I can't show it Without getting people angry at me like the Um, I think trailers can cause blurb CS I'll have to put the copy right. I imagine they probably can Uh-huh. I think even out all of them. It's some of them. Definitely Yeah, everybody's already talked to death about this thing, but e-fap hasn't Nope. I haven't even seen it. I've just heard about it Oh my goodness. Oh, you haven't seen it No, I haven't dying on I don't care about trailers really Not in general Um, I care about this one is selective. This one's like, uh, Ooh, the thing is dumb and so people are talking about it Oh, yeah, I mean, wow, that's been a lot of conversation on this one and like god I'm not looking forward to the discourse when this film comes out The trailer discourse has been bad enough. We will talk about that. Um, well in that case Should we should we play it in full for rags? I on my end will mute it and allow the visuals to be seen here and there And then we talk about it. How's that? All right. Yeah. Yeah, let's um Yeah, let's do it. All right. Here we go three. Well, I'm enjoying it. Yeah, let's just go One of the mini trailers of the beginning you kind of ignore Oh my goodness. That's so weird Everybody's speculating that Matt Murdoch's gonna show up in that scene And again the little Yeah, Dan will fan in me. It's like, oh You got a little devil in disguise there. I'm not like spider-man Well, you know what? Well, we can we'll go without in a sec. Yeah So much commentary. This is just me and you chat so I don't interrupt them listening to the trailer There's so much commentary about this this trailer I'm like I would rather just default immediately to We'll just wait for the movie at all But now we got to be talking about stuff. I really like Dr. Strange Wow, Dr. Strange Simp There's no sound on Pippus. Yeah, come on chat catch up catch up What was Shang-Chi and the Eternals again? Yeah, I don't even know if we're gonna talk about those We're like those are films I think Wee wee wee Damn, that's quite a powerful thing you could do But I want it. Don't worry. You got another minute before rags finishes this trailer And then we're gonna talk all about it. I'm gonna give it a give it a little bit of discussion, you know Yeah, so that's that's the big old concerned face right there, isn't it? The big old concerned Please talk about them so I can stay up to date without having to see them. Look, I'm planning on doing that myself I'm gonna my goodness. It's a train on trains. I'm gonna listen to It looks like a certain kind of train, doesn't it? I'm gonna listen to Fringy talk about the Eternals Oh my goodness gracious. Oh boy Rags, are you hyped? um Oh, I'm the PS5 control all right. Oh, yeah They look better than that xbox one that you just linked them. I'm gonna go Oh beautiful Well, um, it's gonna be terrible Maybe maybe I have very little I Uh, why is why is why is dr. Strange the idiot why him? So here's the problem It's gonna mean a lot of discourse and like yeah, that scene looks bad. We don't have much context at all Well, if you want to mute so that I'll just play it randomly in the background for visuals now. Um Yeah, like premise wise we got like three splits in this trailer first split is spider-man deal with the fact The whole world knows he's Peter Parker. It's like, okay. Good. Yeah. Yeah, that seems like all right. I'm on board and um You got some some clips of hymns and dire hanging out Which means we can we can probably get developing on that But uh, who knows how long that'll last then it looks like As it should he's getting a rip. So this is the first topic for discussion and I'm not naming any names at any point Okay, I'm just gonna say I'm fucking frustrated with a lot of the stuff people have been saying about this. So First and foremost Why arrest spider-man? He saved the world. It's like do we have to watch civil war again? Everybody? Spider-man killed a superhero as far as people know potentially Maybe yeah Like yeah, I can understand. Yeah that he he's gets arrested and then he explains what happens Look at all these drones and what they do and here's the technology going out. They are your drones. It's like, yeah it's gonna be complicated to Thoroughly explain how he definitely didn't do anything to mysterio because mysterio's word against his right now Um, so you got a discredit mysterio Yeah, uh, so, you know, there's a lot to go over To make sure and then of course, there's just the standard like I don't know if they're gonna bring it up in this movie But of course, there's just your vigilante That's also a thing that you're not really supposed to do but that's kind of complex right now because the will We don't know about it the accords even matter anymore and it seems like they don't which is annoying So like I'm fine with him being arrested And I'm also fine with all of the people who knew he was super mad a spider-man being brought in for questioning like so you guys Like you've been you've been helping him out. You've been doing all this kind of stuff Like this this is normal. That's just normal to me. And so that's gonna prompt him to be like, okay It's really bad. The world knows I'm spider-man. I want it to go back that that's all fine That's pretty much the end of the Where I'm where I'm in like like I'm engaged in terms of everything's fine All of that seems to line up make sense to me. I've seen complaints that they put him in a handcuff It's like, why would you do that if you think he's spider-man you'll just break out and I'm just like, um We're still gonna just put him in a hang you should jump at it looks for to break out of a handcuff Yeah, that's the thing. It's one of those, you know, this is this is the physical sign that you're cooperating with us, you know Um, some people suggest the the whatever whatever fury is right now be it foe shield or new shield Whatever should be helping him out. I don't know What exactly could be done against The the local even federal police at this point like like or just just institutions dealing with this I don't know. I don't know if you can just have fury walking and be like, no, it's fine Yeah, you might have been able to do that when he was a part of shield, but We're really far along now in terms of um The progression of this world so we're gonna have to see what uh What they go with with that but Yeah, so he's like I want the whole world to forget I'm spider-man which I think you can allow that for pizza I think you can yeah, he's he's he's not gonna be thinking about the implications of that I do think that it is fair that he didn't think about the implications of that however Dr. Strange probably should have mentioned these things before he decided to help him out Well, so so this is more stuff that frustrates me some people like have you even seen dr Strange's movie? He totally would do a spell even if it's risky and so Dr. Strange in in his movie Most of the rules he breaks is in favor of him getting a greater understanding And more access to power because he's he doesn't like being limited um And that doesn't that doesn't mean he's like lol. I can destroy the universe The thing is he's told about the time stone being really dangerous and he still kind of just uses it out of curiosity Like you've got a little bit to play with with dr. Strange But I don't think you can play with this fucking much where he's like Yeah, I'll erase everybody's memories. Fuck it unless there is like some very significant context that we're missing here And it has to be significant context Well, yeah, the problem is I'm sitting here and it's like so what are the possible explanations The first one is that it's not dr. Strange. It's like Mephisto or something But there's like there's no that could be the case, but there's no reason to believe that necessarily So the other one would have to be that dr. Strange knows something about multiverse shenanigans that's caused him to think about doing this Even though he's some reason, you know, there's a line that trailer that says we know like frighteningly About it. Well, the problem is Unfortunately, dr. Strange established that there is a multiverse and then Loki said nah, there ain't Who are we supposed to listen to? This is a very well-written cinematic universe. All of their ducks are in a row They know just what's going on with each other It's definitely not a bunch of people who just want to do whatever the fuck they want with their show Not at all the ancient ones dialogue says there's infinite universes And they're all like some of them are harmonious. Some of them are gonna try and destroy others and stuff Good job. It's one Just one. Yeah um Now oh, I want to we need to comment on this by the way, so Oh, you've come on the right place Not not naming any names specifically, but like i'm seen Uncle Ben people suggesting that it's dumb Like oh, why are you worried that nobody knows who's spider-man just just tell them that you're spider-man again Now I hope that I don't need to tell anybody why that's really dumb offering you have why that would do it Man, you know, it's almost like you would lose a lot more than just their knowledge that you're spider-man You probably lose all of like your history with them and that's meaningful I wouldn't want to lose that every Piece of history that could in any way relate to you being spider-man post having told them is gone. Yeah They're like that relationship with and she's gone. You'd have to rebuild it from scratch You'd lose a lot with your aunt. You'd lose tons with ned and if someone was to be like that's nothing compared to Like fixing all of this don't I just be like you gotta appreciate this peaches pov Okay, and he is he is like he's 17 at this point, right? So he's he's still like the linden He's young and but his People's unwillingness to let pita fail is very frustrating. I thought that that was I thought we liked it when characters screwed up You know, I'm starting to think that people there are a lot of people who are really biased against mcu spider-man for What? reasons Listen, I just I get this I get this five. I don't want to play arms chair psychologist here or whatever But I just I'm picking up the vibes Well, you get that question but then but then something happens in the third part of their trailer Oh my goodness. Well, I figure we should probably just just to be clear, right? So the doctor strange stuff We think it's really stupid that he would do it. However There is a chance that he's mafesto and he's not Doctor strange. There's also a chance that he's this is all fake and he's done it as a big old goof to peter What is it? What does it say about the character writing in the mcu currently where we're holding out hope? Yeah, I know these characters are actually in disguise super evil villains so that it all makes sense what they're doing And and this is the thing like um, I'm I'm a little Hypersynical to the point where I'm like, you know what? Probably not going to be that it turns out to provide context to make some makes more sense There's probably going to be context makes it even worse and we're going to be like, oh for fuck's sake Like doctor strange explicitly says this has a 99.9 percent chance of destroying the universe. Let's do it We're going to be like Well, of course, why is wong telling him not to do it? Like what did he say about about it? Was it just that it's dangerous or did he tell him like I guess i'm curious. How does this spell even exist if the multiverse only existed like a day ago? How would it be still? Because loki ruined everything Yeah I mean Not to mention like I get doctor strange is powerful but like man the power to erase So not only you can't just erase memories. You'd have to do more than that You'd have evidence of all of this stuff having happened and you have to get rid of that too And what does it mean that? Mysterio is gone Like what how do people reconcile that in their memories like because that would be a lot Yeah, you have to a lot of work has to be done is the short version of And that would require significant power and the implication here is that the spell screws up because peter's talking Which is like there's no way that they didn't talk about this before he did it, you know Well, it's just another mark on the is doctor strange actually stupid I will not by me a mark against peter too in terms of like shouldn't his first thought regard Oh, I want I want these people to still remember me though Yeah Explicitly yeah Yeah, if you're if you're doctor strange and you're doing this thing for peter You think you'd say something along the lines of now I want you to go home give it some time and I want you to think about this very very carefully Yeah Yeah, because to convince us that he would do this doctor strange is going to need to see that the world is definitely worse off for Knowing that peter is by the man Or yeah, that there's significantly again Or the other thing would be there's something that we don't know about that has to do with multiverse Like there is a possibility that this is all just bullshit Like like you said these could just be the lines that they use for the trailer to like mislead And that that's actually a totally different reason why this is happening But I don't know there's there's a lot. I'm not sure that I can fully fight into that one. Um, yeah, and Yeah, like there are there are like conclusions being made about this film Already and it's just like we have to wait a trailer is almost sometimes it's teasing. Okay Well, I mean, I I think after infinity war showing hulk running with them in wakanda It's like guys like sometimes it's just bullshit Like it's just some people have theorized that the peter we see Opposed to doc arc is actually gonna be toby maguire and that they've subbed in tom holland for now With like CGI stuff That's entirely possible where trailers just delete people from the footage It's kind of like in the last of us too when they put Joel in there and he wasn't in there Yeah A little bit except Well, there's a thing is it's down a motivation, right? One wants to just not spoil the storyline the other one's like, please buy our game. It has your favorite Great, you sure do like him buy the game because you sure do love Joel That's gonna happen to him and Nothing. I like that. Nothing bad's gonna happen. It's like, why would you say that? Why would you say that? No, I'm just nothing bad's gonna happen. I'm just saying Um But then yeah, I guess third axe is Now, I've seen people say this has too many spoilers this trailer and it's like I feel like they showed very little I I think there's gonna be a lot more to this film than is in this trailer Wow, because I probably be a full trailer and I guess my wonder is like Do I even want to watch that one? I feel like The reason why I probably will is because uh these trailers Especially are probably designed to have been seen before you see the film at this point Yeah, yeah, of course the marketing for this film is going to be designed over like a whole year Yeah, probably they're gonna want to run you into the film It's just that um There is like this this film is so it's funny Like it's kind of hyped like it's it's kind of very hype, but like you got to try and tile that in like Other though, there's a lot of these movies. That's just marketing these days is it's so much hype I don't have any hype for the other two model properties coming out soon Well, I mean, I'm definitely I'm definitely more interested in spider-man Chongchi. Oh, yeah Well, no, no, it's not even just about the fact that I know spider-man is like well I actually care about this particular character and dr. Strange Yeah, well that they have that going from spider-man's in the place right now if they can stick the landing Which is like, oh are you gonna do that? But if they do, I'll be very famous or stick in the landing. Yeah, I know I'll be very happy if they do because like spider-man is one of the few characters. I'm genuinely invested in in this universe still Um They could take that right away Well, they could because this movie is clearly going to be massive like in terms of scope and what's happening And it's already pissed off many factions Significantly. We've had but a taste of the terror that this film will unleash Well, yeah, because the big big crazy shenanigans is multiverse. We've got spider-man 2 doc arc and spider-man 1 green goblin and electro Tasm 2 inherently Sandman Probably in it too and lizard and then one more But nobody knows and the thing is um, but we pretty much it's all but confirmed. We've got Garfield spider-man and maguire spider-man coming in why yeah, so Do you think we're gonna have multiverse uncle bends coming in? I team up the uncle beds We're all the uncle bends who died in the multiverse and it's nothing but Thousands and thousands the uncle beds all realize The destiny throughout the multiverse is always to die Just like this grim reality that all of them have to understand. It's like yep Now that kang is dead now that kang is dead they live Nate they know now that kang is dead. We know about that somehow uncle ben can become spider-man That's right. Then spider-man was a universe where uncle ben goes on that field trip with uh, peter as a Uh, I don't know chaperone or whatever and he gets bit. Mm-hmm, and he makes He makes super spider rice. He looks in the mirror and says with great power comes great responsibility All people said dead. So when I said a sixth one that is unknown from what I understand There is like sinister six in this but nobody knows who the sixth one is Nobody was meant to know who the other four worry there or three. I guess They think a lot more has spilled about this movie than they wanted to Oh, definitely. I mean, I'm pretty sure they didn't want people to know that there'd be like tome McGuire and Andrew Garfield. I don't think they wanted really hard to keep that under wraps I would I would I would I would almost see said as the the teaser is like, oh my goodness. Is that and So I had imagined the offshot of the next trailer might be the three spider-man. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I imagine Epic confrontation with the service six Oh, no people are saying vulture wait. Oh, uh-oh like oh, why why would he be? Bona Maybe because he didn't give up spider-man, but someone did he wants to I don't know Well, the thing is It can be these characters from any point in history, right? But the problem with that is that uh, I think Kevin Feige is configured like doc arc has been plucked from Like the end of spider-man 2 and so I understand the ramy fans this concerns It's like wait, isn't he a good guy at that point though? Like Right at the end like where are you plucking him from exactly? And then the other concern we've had which is like are all of these villains just going to be like Oh, you cracked open the unit the multiverse. Well, I still want to beat you spider-man I hope yeah, well my hope would be that I Guess the problem is you're gonna have a lot of them It seems because like you can see the evidence for a lot of them in the trailer and it's like man Do we have enough time? Like how long is this movie? Vulture mystery when the Lego set I've not seen anything for Jake Gyllenhaal coming back. Um I've no maybe that's the one secret. They managed to not leak I mean he well, I mean we talked about he might not be dead like that's that's always been Yeah, I There's so much that's gonna happen in that third act so much action so much spider-man versus spider-man villains Yeah, probably going to be really crazy and it's probably going to be really fun. But you know you've got like Yeah, I think the initial few days it'll be hype as fuck And everyone will say this one of the greatest movies of all time And then it'll die down real quick and people will stop becoming very specific like this was a disaster Imagine if it was actually really great and then now the characters Uh that actually happened. I've been being too much been being too much. Yeah, I know I know that's probably like at this point and especially like once we you know like Chong cheese out this week can be five for five confirmed very soon And once that happens, it's like man, we are just in a dark era for this universe. I've heard it's a triumph I don't know like if we you know everybody keeps standards triumph. Yeah, I have heard and would they lie. I don't think so Remember when they all said the black panther was 10 out of 10 should get an Oscar and stuff. They were right about that And then it nearly did that was crazy Oh Then it nearly did Yeah And then fortunately it was Into the multiverse one an oscar and that was that was much much better Maybe I'm happier. Um, oh, yeah the other the other potentialist kingpin might be one of the bad guys in this too I man the pro I hear some it's there's so many rumors about spider-man and kingpin like Apparently kingpin is all but confirmed to be in hawkeye and hawkeye is meant to tie into this film kind of So I Yeah, I I wonder And it seems like dad was going to be showing up and other stuff too. That's that's like she-hulk in that echo show Yeah, man Everybody else has been left to the white side though. Nobody wants to bring her over iron fist And we're kind of just sort of the third act stuff We're kind of accepted like but oh god. I'm not looking forward to having to think about it Where it's like so you cracked open the multiverse and a bunch of Peter Parker specifically spider-man villains Fight spider-man like what it's what in the world will be the context to make this the thing that happens, you know I guess you could try and lean into like They're not exactly from like the ramy films or exactly from the Maze and spider-man films But universes where they're similar, you know, you could try to do that But it almost feels like they don't want to do that You want them to be as close to the originals as possible to tap into that nostalgia. Yeah. Yeah Or else. Yeah, they were just totally different. Why I mean marketing exactly I could just picture like, you know, Willem Dafoe and Alfram Alina show up and they're like time to fight and then like the whole world's crumbling apart in terms of the multiverse And they're both like oh man, we should probably fix that actually Instead of having a little fight with Spooderman Yeah, unless there's some kind of thing, you know, there's like oh, you need the the multiverse correcting loom juice The Dark Strange has and they all need to attack him to get it or something I suppose that's the conversation though is like Yeah, far from home like plotters is like barely holding together, but Mysterio was was was great and Vulture was excellent So that's that's something right like why do why do we expect that? This is going to be dessert or not. Why do we expect that it will be disastrous? It's like, hmm They're now on the millions twice. Yeah. Yeah, I guess it is the phase four is the corrosive elements Um Because I think that's because I kind of don't expect the plot to be good in this one But if they get the characters right, I'll at least be happy Yeah, maybe the best that we can really hope for is a suicide squad scenario. Yeah, bad plot the great characters That's what I'm hoping for That's what the mcu just ends up being for years. Then you know what? I think I'm just gonna fucking take it and count my blessings Yeah, and someone said uh dog strange attacks peter in this trailer putting someone into the astral flumes like there's so many contacts for that not being hostile like How do we even know that that happens with the hulk and banner and and so with the end game She does it just to neutralize him. So it's like, yeah, you can it's fine Like it would literally be because peter wants to do something and dog strange he was telling him not to and then you know, maybe Um It's very unclear and Like if shang chi fails if the eternals fails, but then this is successful I have no idea what we're supposed to conclude about the state of the mcu Yeah, I what are they gonna do are they gonna just Are they gonna have an investment to lean more heavily on the mainstays that they still have Is it gonna speed up more guardian stuff? Is it gonna speed up more dr. Strange stuff? Is it gonna more spider-man stuff? That's an interesting thought, isn't it? What would be the consequences of shang chi and eternals didn't do as well as we're expected? Because they have to I mean in a in an ideal world They would recognize that. Oh, yeah, that's right. We can't just make shit up We have to like actually kind of write some good stuff to get people invested into this But that's not gonna happen. You'll be good Maybe maybe it will be good. Maybe eternals will be a triumph to Maybe if all be triumphs there will there will never be another non triumph Yeah, it was just an awkward all could crumply start to phase four, but now now Good. Yeah, we got all the bad stuff out of the way. It's all bangers from here on out We destroyed the universe and several favorite characters now we can focus on good storytelling Yeah, now that we've gotten all that out of the way Um, some people say what about the train bit does look like stock strange and peter are fighting It's like I don't really know what's happened there. No, yeah, it looks like that train that train looks like the spider-man 2 train. I will say looks like the train I just I just don't know. I don't know if who's attacking who or if they're just trying to make it through Maybe it's some kind of weird multiverse traveling thing. I don't know I think it is because it looks like it's in the grand canyon for some reason I could picture them doing a whole sequence with spider-man's like falling through the multiverse with strange trying to catch up with them, you know Maybe yeah, and then we might be fine all of these set pieces from the other films. Yeah Well, yeah, this movie is gonna probably have really cool visuals in it and a crazy crazy adventure going through all kinds of stuff, but Oh boy, will it make any sense at all? Nope always Yeah Well, it's just we're all like the the thing about it is we could have gone to see it and it'd been fine But now we got this trailer. It's like Now you've told me some of this stuff. I'm like, oh, I'm more worried than I was before Yeah No, I'm not a happy position, but um Hopefully we can get a five. That'd be nice That'd be nice. We could get a five. Yeah All right. Yeah, that's that's about that really The terror just washes over it's just what we're it's just where we are now five Well, um, I'll have a look in chat Ask some questions if you want to know our perspective on anything to do with this trailer because I feel like we've covered it but I just I'm curious if there's anything else because it's uh It's just been talked about everywhere infinitely and You got when it comes out You got predictable takes from a lot of the people who are just fans of a particular aspect be it Rami's stuff Or dr. Strange is a character or uh the I don't know like the the the the inclusion of multiverse being a thing now and what that means because everyone's doing it Skeptic as fuck about this film. Yes As you should be thoughts on jayme fox being electro again for whatever reason of all the people to bring back why the fuck did you choose him? What seems like they're not even because he's got like the yellow lightning It looks like they're doing the regular all electro, which he was not so don't you know I'm I love the idea that everyone was like just tossing ideas who to bring back someone said electro No one just had the balls to say no everyone was like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We all liked electro, right? Yeah He was all right. Yeah Favor for jimmy and shipping Because it really helped us out that one time So we get to he gets to have a thing in a movie that he likes The problem is that jimmy is kind of retarded and he loves electro so They need to bring in bully maguire. That's needs to be one of the the villains. Yeah You need you wonder the mean potential of stuff like that and if it means they'll actually do it Because they did it and into the spider-verse they referenced it, right? Yeah, they did they did the meme dance They're doing a lot of memes in that movie But I wasn't good movie is very fun. It's just funny that almost everyone looks on spider-bad 3 like Man, that was a that was a weird fucking part of that movie, you know, like Yeah, except for Didn't high top say like that it was unironically fun I think he did his best to try and defend it. The poor guy was trying Yeah, I did his best to defend spider-man 3 But yeah, like you see like electric explosions and stuff in this just like yeah, electro is probably in it too He'll he'll be shown in the next trailer. I imagine Probably her man green goblin Maybe not or maybe electro. I don't know Oh, sorry. You just said that I'm fucking What about the landlord who won't fix this damn door? Do you think he'll be in the uh, everyone's hoping he'll turn up Everyone's hoping Well, they have like a you know like the hero shot in uh in the suicide squad You have that for the villains and he's just with the green goblin and everyone else like red Yeah, or maybe like Like pizza time feels like a meme that we could get in there You know, like yeah, you could squeeze a pizza time in there What would be the memes for andrew goffield's like what what would his meme be? That's a no, but you do have the the andrew goffield fans who are all hoping that he's taken care of as well Um, yeah, I want him to be yeah, I want to be okay. I think he made a good spider-man Him him a spider-man was certainly not amongst the problems with those films No, I was absolutely like the material itself not him Yeah, I would feel kind of bitter in a way if I was him and I was chosen to be the next spider-man And they fucked it up andrew goffield had spoken about how he was unhappy with how he was treated Especially after the amazing spider-man 2 like with the way he's treated by the studio Wasn't this the thing it's gonna be hard him or well Oh, it was just like apparently like poor communication just um I I can't remember exactly but amazing spider-man 2 was not as successful as it was supposed to be And um And then of course, so I think for a time That was like is he actually going to come back because he did say that he wasn't happy with how he was treated I mean, it seems like it's so this is the thing it goes It goes beyond the studio, right? This is more of an event. This is um, yeah This is like a cultural thing because because you look at dr Who um chris ferracklestone refused to come back and they had to use john hurt as a They changed the timeline like significantly to her and says like everyone was like, why couldn't you come back? Come back for the fact that they're combining all of the new who doctors which would have been Just an event But I think he I think he didn't come back on principle now. He's back doing audio stuff So I think he's changed his mind But in the same way, it's like I would get an toby more quieter come back andrew can come on come on man Like this we want to get one chance to do this Which there's an interesting irony there in terms of like you had them all on board for the star wars and they didn't put them together I guess Yeah, that's true. That's right and It was like a missed opportunity and maybe for there's an element of like, hey, this is like closure You can get closure on this this character kind of yeah Who'll come back it'll be really cool and then and then that's it and you can move on Well, so the one of the prevalent theories right now is the toby maguire will die in this storyline and then Andrew Garfield we've got a big question mark over in terms of I wonder if they'll implement him to the mcu Or if we're gonna see him again in a multiverse story or if he'll just leave But we'll get closure on how he's a happy spider-man in his universe, you know yeah That would be nice Weird apology sort of thing if that's yeah, yeah That would be nice actually oh and at least we didn't fuck up your character in a way At least you were able to give your character something nice, which is something And I I'm sure the fans even people who don't like the amazing spider-man sequels so Earth maybe they'd be you know, maybe they'd be like, you know what I'm I'm all right. I'm glad I'm glad things, you know Worked uh worked out. I'm not upset Like I don't know how many people really don't like Andrew Garfield spider-man for him I don't think it's many people at all. I think there are people who are big fans of him He was um, he was a big fan of spider-man Which is what helped him out with a lot of fans. He was like It was like his dream role or whatever Man man, that is unfortunate to think about how it turned out, isn't it? Damn. Yeah Uh, a lot of actors obviously jump into this stuff and they're like, I don't really know who these Fucking comic people are just reading the script and other people are like this has been what I like David Tennant with the doctor He wanted to play the doctor since he was like fucking five No, Edward Norton wanted to be Bruce Banner. He was Significantly invested in in doing that Yeah And then yeah, then that didn't pan out It's getting depressing now These people who are really passionate that it just didn't pan out This is just so many things that could have happened and and the place we've ended up in a lot of ways for movies and just Meteor in general It's like man, it doesn't feel like we're in the upper echelon feels like we're in the lower one But you know, yeah, we're we're in the slump. It feels like we grab the highlights where we can Um, so interesting That they mentioned that I was talking to as in gary on real vvc was the potential for you see a shot of happy hogan Um with some guns on him or whatever. It's like, what if what if he's foggy nelson from the 2003 daredevil movie? Because the I know there's gonna be a lot of people like what the fuck you talk about So the ben aflec daredevil john favreau was foggy in that And uh, oh I didn't remember that So if if we combine a bunch of stuff, you've got the actor It'll be funny if you you know, you did that man. I don't feel like they want a reference 2003 Well, that's the thing I think you'll gain way more approval from people when you you do warts and all you're like, yeah You know what that was a thing in our history. It's fine Well, I mean, I'm pretty it seems like with multiverse stuff now The rumor is that somebody from the x-men universe will be in doctor strange too Like somebody significant. Yeah Well, so that's worth mentioning now. Um We're in a very worrying time for how if this really works, then they're gonna be like, all right So shang chi too, we're gonna have to bait several cameos in order for people to see this film. Yeah Cameos is the way to run out of cameos to actual characters You probably yeah, who eventually you'll run out, won't you? And I'm like, well, how long will it be before they get Robbie Downey juniors do a fucking voice Shit, and then like in a trailer for spider-man 7 You know home is the way or whatever and the trailer ends with him saying Something we're like iron man's come back Oh my goodness gracious. I thought he died, but he didn't actually died I mean with the multiverse that it's almost like I guess you could easily see iron man, right? Like just with how this works There would have to be other iron men who survived, right? It would only make sense And so yeah, it gets concerning because uh, the story's gonna mean a whole lot less soon Could the doctor strange is like only what does that even mean if there was a there was only one Way that it was gonna go also think about infinite, right? Yeah, and also infinite. That's right. Yeah Because you know that timeline, but someone had a coffee instead of Black coffee or something in the morning. You know, you already mean like just like well now we got two and three four and it's just infinite Yeah Yeah, and besides nobody ever believed doctor strange when he said there's only one way we win. It's like bullshit That's bullshit. Nobody believes you Look at the end game battle to see how many ways they could have won that they just chose not to Oh, yeah one chance If we got captain marvel to fly the gauntlet out of here, we would have lost Captain marvel's aware the gauntlet imagine they told her, uh, you know captain marvel put it on snap them all away And then she's like, I don't want to die I'm a i'm a hero. I don't die I don't want to like burn my hand. This is my good hand. Give it to that guy the the the old dude She would be indestructible Well, yeah, she wouldn't hurt her Nervous to damage well as we saw a Thanos head buttoner and it didn't work Didn't do anything Just it was like a dunk. He's a powerful beating um Yeah, that's that I suppose not much else to say, uh, we will obviously check this movie out when it comes out in Assuming december if not delayed. I don't know if well, so from what it seems Uh, if shang chi doesn't do as well as I want eternals will get delayed And I don't know if that will affect spider-man because it's sony They might still keep it. I guess for them it will be venom. How does venom go? Seems like we're in that weird time where it's like, hmm. Nobody really knows what the limits of anything are anymore Well, I think the thing is is because black widow's shed release makes things complicated Where shang chi is just theaters. So that would and the rest of these movies are just theaters So that'll give us an indication I guess like I mean, uh Yeah, shang chi and the eternals if they both come under their, um Their hoped sort of stuff. It just just feels like we're going to be switching gears hardcore Yeah Well, because I guess they're in this weird position where it's like for the mcu to have long-term sustainability they need to introduce new character to people like, um And we'll want to keep seeing so like yeah, you kind of need these movies to do well to make sure that people Are out, you know, and maybe maybe shang chi is a cool guy We'll have to see but like you'll worry we'll watch the eternals trailer like is anyone in that gonna Be able to sort of stand out and people will be like, oh, I really love that guy. He's really good It feels like I guess yeah, that film has like 10 men characters. It looks like I know it's all great. But Surely you need to focus on a couple of them, right to be like the main guys Yeah, because that's the thing when you're like, oh, we got like two hours to spend on one person So of course they should be well realized but then it's like they fucked with Like captain marvel is a nothing no one cares about her at all not even people who are fans of her And then you go black widow. They destroyed in the two hours. They gave her That's true. Yeah, like they're the solo movies sort of We were at like it's just like yeah Will shang chi become someone that we want to see in the future or like well, that was a film I guess I get the impression the base story of shang chi is incredibly conventional And that feels like a good thing to me, you know, just like do something straightforward like I just want to be a good man who does good things Like if you do because you know, if you've done that you're doing better than the mcu has been doing in phase four So far whether or not good people Yeah, they're actually pretty villainous If he's a good guy then like that's something at least Like that if the hero was a good person that'll be that'll be nice And I wonder if they'll actually ever throw a line in this for why dox strange doesn't deal with one division at all You kind of wonder where even is this film in relation to the three shows Oh, right I think the time from what I understood isn't the timeline that like far from uh far from home was after one division and uh falcon winter soldier I think falcon winter soldier was six months after the snap and it was eight In in far from home and I'm guessing that this is pretty shortly after far from home Which means we really do need dox strange to account for that. Well, I guess well Yeah That's the problem like wet because loki is in this weird place. It's directly after endgame kind of Technically loki sits both before and after right like it's weird things that way because yeah I don't know. Remember they're at the end of time when they kill kang Which means everything going forward from the end of time is like uncontrolled, but then everything From all time is splitting off everything. Yeah, it's like a new coke It's just kind of everything Just stop watching or buying their crap this will end. I don't think so So we don't have the power as three people Like it significantly influenced the profitability of the most successful film franchise in history We do however have the power to criticize it Maybe we can get dr. Strange to cast a spell The mcu never existed The mcu just didn't happen think of it does make you wonder what what kind of What are all of the movies that would have been made if the mcu didn't happen? There was no superhero stuff. It wasn't an interest. It wasn't quite in vogue again Um, it used to the movies didn't do that. Well, we get one here and there, but what would disney be doing? Prime work star wars, maybe. Oh, I don't know The problem is I don't know what disney because like at this point disney don't make A lot of original like live action films anymore You remember when they used to like they used to kind of make new live action films that were Based on new ideas Why do that much anymore because now it's just a remix. I don't even know which ones you're referring to So I remember in like the early in in the 2000s. They were like the princess One where the she comes to the real world and she used to be a cartoon. Yeah, yeah, that was enchanted, right? I was almost gonna say enchantress. It was like wait, no the suicide squad That was enchanted remember the titans somebody mentioned chat that was one Tron well tron, I mean, that's a sequel but like that's a sequel to a film that was like 35 You know one sequel I don't want to count tron because they wanted to they wanted to turn tron into a franchise that's different Damn now I liked tron legacy. I thought it was okay, but I haven't seen it Yeah, I can't remember much about it I guess I pirates of the caribbean feels like oh well people starting to just mention animated films Time will print a Persia adaptation but again, it's like that's Something compared to what we're doing now where it's remaking the old animated ones And it's only a matter of time until they start like remaking the ones that don't seem so old like Tangled they'll probably make that a live action thing I get worried about if they're gonna live action Pixar movies though that scares the hell out of me Yeah, when we get one of them, it'll be The fears will have been realized finding Nemo, but with real fish Like the Lion King real realistic looking clown You know how expressive fish are right? Yeah with all those special expressions all one of them Hey, that's that's one more than zero. How do you feel? I mean Pretty sure there's like seven or eight live action films from disney coming out like the next two years alone God What is going on? We don't care. They're gonna come for emperor's new groove and like treasure planet. They're gonna come for those Yeah, and then there is this the almost a hope of fatigue now you're like, please Normal audience please But like they're making more money than they did before it seems to be getting like Aladdin Lion King immensely successful Yeah, people clap at anything so fuck it keep pumping them out Yeah, no treasure planets like they will don't worry Had black would have come out right after end game with a non pandemic stuff going on You wonder how much money it would have made probably would have made a billion dollars. That wouldn't surprise me Or maybe a little less than that, but yeah Which is why I imagine they're not even gonna risk putting spider-man on streaming this time I don't think no way you you want to get that in theaters people will go to see spider-man Yeah, this is gonna be the ultimate test and that like because there's a big name We've got all of the done everything right marketing and cameos and Everyone's talking about it Rami stuff has come back. So yeah, everything's playing in in line for us. So if this doesn't work Then uh, you have to just have a huge board meeting The day they do a little stitch live action is the day I die inside. I got bad news for you That's definitely happened Definitely. Yeah It's yeah, I'm pretty sure it's already been announced. That's happening on disney plus Yeah Well, yeah, we didn't even watch the lady in the tram live action. Oh, that's that. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, they did We watched the trailer They're doing like Peter Pan That's gonna be on disney plus as well I can't wait for windy to Show peter pan that she's a real hero and he's actually shit and Yeah, you know that you know the name windy was invented for peter pan No, really Really? Yeah, I think yeah, I think he made it up for that. Uh Oh Man, huh? And then when americans say it fast it sounds like windy windy Very windy. It's very windy over here. Very windy. Yeah So that's that. Um, we as you can see we're hyper Positive about all of this. It was funny. Um, when I talked about real bbc with uh, gary and as the one of the One of the comments was like, let me guess you guys hate the trailer because you guys hate everything And it was funny because like the thing was it's like, yeah, it's hype as fuck, but I mean Why would we just be like, oh, well, let's ignore all the context around all of it Let's ignore any potential story lines going to shit with how they've explained in this trailer Let's just celebrate that we see dark arc. Whoo Yeah, like as if that's enough was if that's ever been what we do It's not it. Um Yeah, there's there's so much reason to have worry over this film and we will wait until it comes out, of course And we'll probably have a fucking 10 hour e-fab talking about all the plot lines This one's going to take a while to break down, I'd imagine with the amount of crazy shit that happens in it. Yeah probably I'm looking forward to seeing strange and peter interact. I'm looking forward to seeing the fun multiverse stuff looking forward to To the good stuff. Hopefully good stuff coming in I don't know how it's going to handle in total, but yeah, well, we'll have to Spare me Which um Yeah, that leads us to i'm gonna i'm gonna Read us we're gonna spend the rest of the stream trying to catch up with super chats from 150 because of course 150 was um Big flump. It was like 20 How many hours was it in total actually not disregarding the breaks All right, it was like 24 and a half. I think 17 e-fab. Don't get me. What did I say? 23 it's like 24 and 20 minutes or something like that So The closest we actually came to the amount of time it's supposed to be because the first one we did rags was 29 hours Do you know that episode 50 the first one? Yeah And the second one was 20 well 30 hours. I think well 31. I can't remember which was the nightmare, but Man, man, do you just do you just really want to go to sleep and get to that point, you know Yeah It's uh 29 that's asking a lot guys Yes, it is. Um What i'll do is we'll combo up today's ones with stream labs And we'll get them done and then we'll just jump right into the to the rest. Um Yeah, let's do it. We may have a gym and when joining us at some point. I don't actually know I believe he is the busy potentially Um, I'm sure he missed what you want to talk about some spoodleman as well, but it's too late for that Missed the opportunity no more talking about spoodleman grab you What what legar game are you playing? I'm actually going to play some factorial Oh boy. Yeah crazy Breaking all the rules today So I've just seen it. I've seen a trial and pop up of my YouTube fade dug days starring dug from up to see plus Man Man, I don't know. I like dug. He's he's a good boy character against the show now, you know He's a good boy, but I I get and I'm not even like that big fan of up. I I like up, but I think helps all overrated Um, yeah, like even this upsets me kind of I don't know like it just it shows their mentality Yeah, just everyone everything just pump it out make the shows. Well, what if it's great guys? It could be I'll be shockingly surprised. It could be great, but I guess it's just white. I don't know Would I guess that's because I'm sitting here. It's like what if like You actually got Pixar to just make a whole original show, you know, like just have them make a show that isn't You know a sequel to anything Well They allowed to do that you're confusing Yeah Um So starting from today's we got a wonderful little moly you're gay uh So, oh wait, that wasn't the first one. It was high e fappers high rags. There you go Oh, hi Hey, the second one was more than you're gay. Well, I mean, I think what were the rules? Whoever says I'm gay at the time it'll it'll be like a thymus. I'm gonna be gay for a while now depending on What happens next we'll have to see what where it goes. Hello free moly. Oh great. Just great Hello free moly and rags and chat. Hope everyone's having a great day Looks like we're gonna get nothing, but he's arrogant to justify strange that That's not Yeah, I don't know I don't know if they're gonna go that route and I wouldn't buy it if they did You're gonna have to do better than that. Yeah arrogant like Because what is what is uh his sort of appeal to this like oh, I can't wait to fuck around with the multiverse like Is that it? That doesn't seem very good no um When spider-man comes out, do you think Hassan's chair will watch it? Oh, yeah He'll be there in the theater sitting there with the popcorn eat like watching the show Um I can't describe him with how much I despise the stupid damn nano suits I mean it uh I'm spider-man's one's not really the the one I have a problem with the the ant man one I get confused by I don't know how he has no attack Um, but I don't like whatever attack Okay, I man's got nano attack and then he builds a suit for spider-man's like I don't know I guess it would be nano attack at least the iron spider Uh, I'm okay with it. Yeah, like that one. I do prefer the normal suit. Yeah There's a lot of discussion about the suits and it's just kind of like I don't know What are we supposed to do about this in terms of like what I? Well, I would say what I don't like about the suits is we've got to show the actor's face We've got to we've got to take that helmet off. We're going to take that mask off all the time to show the actor's face It's like nah Can we not do that? Can we just have them because why would you ever take a? Yeah, I don't know. I feel if it was like almost you're losing the element of Like it's something you wouldn't do in a video game because the recognizability of an actor's face is Relevance like for whatever story purpose did you have it feels like a movie thing? Gotta see their face can't just happen in costume Yeah, but we're definitely at that point even though. Yeah Yeah Is a shame Don't we make these I have forgotten a lot about how to control this game Chat be ready to be disappointed in how I play this game because I I don't remember it We want all of the kits. Yeah, okay. Your factories are poor Oh Well, I just say rags Well, you said we but I guess rags doesn't feel as though you speak for him, you know, that's just I will for I look down upon your factories. Oh my good I need for this iron plates. All right Actually, no, it's not that oh metal. How'd you get in here? I was I opened the door terrifying It was terrifying. I was gonna say why is this such a draft? You know some sort of air command. Oh, by the way We did talk about it, but I posted the statistics there for the hbr movie Max movie releases for the first 17 days mortal combat 5.5 million us households Godzilla vs. Kong 5.1 million us households the suicide squad 4.7 million us households Wonder Woman 1984 3.9 million households zaks night is just league 3.2 million households And then the conjuring I don't care Conjuring it. So the suicide. So that means the suicide squad was the best debut on the service. Really? Oh, that's good. I like that. No, sorry the best debut of all the dceu film Sorry, it's the third best behind godzilla and mortal combat I still not bad Well, yeah better than the rest of the dceu films And wonder. Hmm. That's interesting to think about isn't a matter of hbr max has grown significantly since wonder woman kept because wonder woman was when like That whole every like theaters were all closed. It was like in full swing that you couldn't go watch movies basically So that's interesting. I think I I think that's I just wish I lived in the world Where we had the clear numbers on like how well or badly things actually did like in covid conditions like how badly did wonder woman 84 do because Dude, like just regular movie going people like don't like that film Most of them don't it seems like very few people are fans of that film Which one sorry like Wonder Woman 84 a lot of people just find that film weird and stupid It is weird and stupid. It is weird and stupid But I mean like even to an eczema it's like regular people like this dude this movie strange like I don't know something wrong with it Mortal combat is the interesting one like it was so successful on hbr max. We had fun with it, right? China it was I do wish that kano or johnny cage was the Instead of this this new Goro with his little sticks. Yeah, that was so lame Really and like Sonya blade like killing kano and then fucking tana knock tana malina. Yeah, lame Yeah, for a movie that's trying to be cool. There was a lot of lame shit in there Yeah, kano was awesome though That he was I just want the movie called kano where it's him going on adventures through the nether realm Hanging out with cabal. Maybe it could be a buddy cop Thing They're trying to be good guys and it's really difficult You can't help but kill people just trying their best Do better That's right. Do better kano. Yeah, I already did the best I could Well, that isn't good enough Like when he fought lizard that was that was awesome and just reptile. Yeah Yeah, uh lizard why let's I'm think of spider-man Yeah Um It's all a trailer. It makes me afraid the doc strange character Makes me afraid for dr. Strange's character remaining intact. Yeah Yeah, perfectly fair fear. That is the fear that I think uh Yeah, we're just gonna be sitting there rocking back and forth like please Don't do this You have a choice It was like Choice was never an option not in kain's world. No Turn 21 yesterday. I have some birthday money. Also high fringy high molar and high rags. Hello. Oh, hey Happy birthday Please god don't let dead devil be in no way home. They might ruin him like strange Yeah, yeah, so I'm of two minds on the one hand. I've said this so many times I like the legitimacy of like, yeah dead devil happened in this universe and it counts but I get very worried about the future with like of having these characters be in like face forward onwards That gets me concerned I doubt they do the dead devil show, you know, like that doesn't feel like something that they would have in the mcu You know, like that not something that they would do on disney plus Because it kind of You've necessitated. I would say that if you want to be Homics accurate or you know, try to lean more into it than you need to go more mature, but it's been established as Mature so to have it just go to like pg-13. No blood. No anything controversial would be like It's surprising Yeah, I get I do wonder if like dead devil is gonna count. Does that mean punish is gonna be You think they'd bring him in Um Yes, but if they did would he just be like Really chill and normally like he punches people and they fall over and you're like, hey punisher Well, yeah, it goes like we're not really taking advantage of punisher Well, maybe they could just have t'challa talk to him and calm him down Or understanding guy and he'd chill out calm down and he'd see the world in a different way Have a different perspective on things. Maybe All it takes is one good argument Yeah Thank you to charlotte Fucking chris pratt. I wonder if he's seen that what if episode I wonder if james gun has seen it dragon. He would be like, oh my god. That was so cringe. Yeah, it was great It was great. The It was so awesome. We've got so many creators doing so many different things. Wonderful. It's so great. Imagine the possibilities It's all equally good Like the black widow review miau la favorite parts are all the cameos with jays tizmy ramp being the best He really evoked the quotes confusion. Uh, yeah I don't know if that's because jay was confused reading it Or if he wanted to sort of give that impression off but that the quote he read was so fucking terrible I mean all of them were really like Different reasons and stuff. But yeah, oh, hey, she maybe just got away kind of like that makes sense. Yeah Sort of go with it. It's fine. It makes some sense may no no, I didn't think We tried Um Howdy efap just want to congratulate on three years and thank you guys for helping me stay sane through graduating college Hey Oh, yeah, oh, I'll rat your lillation that Getting ready to start a homeland security career and I hope you keep up with y'all's epic as fuck content Also, hello from texas rags Oh, hello Ticks off. I don't play not going anywhere Yeah, I'll hang around for a bit longer if you guys want Like a few years Good decades Great. Yeah, fine There we go. Oh look at my first tiny factory I'm I'm learning I want to start it up your stream for the second. I thought you were playing dune Look, he's a super old dune game. I don't even I wouldn't even know what that is I'm playing like a really cool game Where what when you when are you doing that? Right now look it's a cool game I got wood powering my little arm thing and coal power in that and then it's cold wood in here Gosh, I'm just so good at doing things. Oh, you have a you have a wood powered arm too. Yeah In the wood and you're on Look where it's going Hi, shiba inu candy taiwan rags is made into candy really wild also high rags Wow I'm made of candy. Hello rags is pretty sweet make sense Oh Why are we talking about sputum and when spider-man is coming out would that spell also erase his identity from the avengers? uh i'm a I That's you know, that's a fair question. If he's gonna be like, I'll erase it from everyone. You're like, oh You might have some significant results doing that. I don't know. You gotta be careful. Mr. Strange very strange thing you're doing there Get it there you go Why is dr. Strange acting so weird? Hopefully we'll find out Because you really hope that not just sort of being like, eh fuck it dr. Strange would do this like woody though No, I think you're you're um, you might just be using him here to do the thing that you'll want him to do Which is not a good Mm-hmm. None of us want that stop it I want a little bit. No, you don't Okay, you're ruining it Sorry Hmm. I can't remember how these work. I'm just gonna have to do a lot of uh, A lot of experimenting with this Why shield wouldn't she'll be able to explain that he's in the clear? Shield's not a thing It's very complex. We're gonna have to figure out. Well, we're gonna have to see what they say about everything in this universe in terms of what's happening It'll be rather co-delegates, right? Oh, yeah, they'll explain it thoroughly It's not like they're busy doing other things in this film right now No, no, no, it's gonna be great I'm sure this goes without saying but holy moly did meme do a fantastic job with a snider cut Please give that man that saint all of our appreciation also high rags Hey there. Oh, yeah, I told him he's a good fleam when that was over. Oh, that's nice of you I didn't plan to watch it all the way through where I was just lying in bed watching. It's like, oh, I'm gonna watch it all Yes, it's uh, it's quite a journey Yeah, so much. It's that was a long project. Hope you guys enjoyed Not not like I'm threatening. It'll never happen again, but uh four hour What was it four at four hours like 15 20? hours Yeah, see He's a big boy A good big boy Big and all right. I got me some poepts whichever look here put her ear Yeah The background is all just like Poor guy Shed Is that does the water come through even just when I do that? All right. I ain't judging I'm judging. What the fuck wait, there's no warrior. That's a fucking lie unless We'll find out To be clear the inciting instant isn't really just peter taking talking during a spell, right? There's no way they do that, right? Hmm Can't be sure It makes me sad that we can't be sure Yeah, what are you gonna do is just like well, that's what we're faced with being the potential right now Unlike you might be like, oh no, I have the confidence the rise wouldn't do that. It's like I'm afraid I don't um Oh, we'll have to see Do you catching up with the batwam in content? Love y'all you should react to arrow season one cw assassinated all of her later on But in season one he was a good character I don't believe that Not even in season one that he was a good character for you really I don't really believe I hear people say that arrow season one is good And I I imagine it has a lot of similar problems to like the current stuff in terms of structural plotting And just dumb things about them that I don't like personally but Ever think that maybe you hate too much Hey, look, all right Why are you choosing to be blinded by hate? He goes on fun little adventures Oh, I'm gonna need copper all right Always with I have some poop here. All right. Honestly. I appreciate that but I just poop wasn't really what I was looking for but I understand Okay, yeah More like they're saying that you need a pump. You need to respect the pump. All right. I get the pump You gotta invite the pump into your life You gotta because whatever pumps you gotta pay respect It's such a funny quote The pump It's just the way he says it pump pump. Yes. Bump. Bump it up Uh, hi malone fringy on a scale of one to stupid. How bad is dr. Strange also high rags? We don't know No, I think they're talking about the movie. We don't know yet. Oh, I don't know yet. Well, they might be talking about the movie Oh Why oh the movie dr. Strange if they are yeah one to stupid it's like Mm-hmm I don't know. I'm seeing you pretty like he made I don't remember making really dumb decision. Dr. Strange. Well What what about the movie? The movie school doctor strange All right, I see now. Yeah, the movie is pretty dumb like there's a lot of things wrong with it I didn't like it. But yeah, it's it's the magic system. We we just do not care at all about making it make sense Yeah I thought we were talking about the spudermanon Well, they might be they could be all three. So if it's spudermanon, it's he's in danger of being very stupid Him in his movie. I don't I remember being that stupid in his movie. There's a couple of bits Main one Is how stupidly he doesn't use his portal in the mirror verse when he's being chased by kaesilius. That was embarrassing Really dumb There might be other stuff But then the movie itself is pretty dumb like The kaesilius motivation was really fucking lame Mordo is like assassinate themselves character right at the end you got somehow Uh, kaesilius can pull himself out of being rewound in time. I'll never understand that somehow. Yeah There's there's there's some stuff. Yeah, if that's what you're asking He's that good. He's that good Um, also rags any opinion on guild wars 2 end of dragons expansion No, no, I hope it's not full of weeb shit Let's say that how could you say that? You not like the weeb No, I don't damn it's pain weebish pain Wait, what's happening here? Why aren't you getting me more stuff? Oh, have you ran out of What a useless drill Oh There you go Get me mo Oh, I need to make more of these. All right Isn't spider-man well known for working with iron man. It wasn't iron man beloved by people So why would the public turn on pita because he's apparently killed a hero? I don't know why this is hard for everybody like What how did you guys react if you found out who's like the most beloved so if fucking keanu reeves Had killed like Who else is beloved morgan freeman? Like it it would put everyone like everyone would be like fuck. What did he what did someone's like? Well, we like keanu reeves. I'd be like, um Did you hear the pot with the killing? Yeah It was a little bit awkward. Why are you seeing that? so, um Yeah, I'd have a lot of concerns. I'd be like, man, this is not it's not looking good. I uh So I understand and you know mysterio would have gained a shit ton of fans, you know passionate ones So, um, it's a matter of getting all of the truth out. I just don't know what the timeline is I don't know if it's easy for pita to prove everything about mysterio or not Maybe if if he's got all the stuff, but like that's got to get out there And there's still gonna be people who would be like, I don't believe you mysterio is a good guy I believe it. Yeah, I mean exactly um Hello there, please pass this 20 along to meme for his fantastic work It inspired me to actually make the dceu superman slash jesus imagery breakdown. What I've seen so far is either superficial as fuck or fundamentally broken Oh boy um I mean What I was about I was thinking to myself like well, how could it be anything else? It's just random crosses and stuff Yeah, what so so hollow. Yeah It's like, oh, it's so meaningful. Put his arms out. He's like he put his arms out. He's like a jesus He's like a jesus I jesus He's not like those other pieces um Woo something to listen to of my seven hour run happy air horn noises. Oh Don't go wrong with an air horn Maybe can't actually I'm just unaware of it, you know Maybe if it's like an air and it bites you probably wouldn't want to use that one. That would be horrible Yeah, wouldn't want that go away tree Whoa, yeah, sorry about that. I didn't mean to sound so aggressive I don't agree with that. I need more pipes. So he does Oh Gonna need more other things too um Assassinating characters is what the mcu does best Right now. Yeah, pretty good. Pretty good at it. Yeah If that's a niche they want to carve for themselves. They're doing a pretty good job. Yes We're the ones that are really good at doing that. You're like, that's so great for you Happy you found something And yeah, this the thing that's what built up the mcu. It wasn't just relying on household names It was they did character work. People were like, wow, I actually care about these people. That's neat Not anymore Or at least spider-man. Yeah Not for the foreseeable future Hello, everyone. I got your plushies for my one year old I'll send a picture of with them on a fringin metal plushie random question. Why does everyone say also high rags also high rags Hi, oh my god Why do they say that that's ifap what seven or something you can find that out Tail is all this time Yeah, you you you can't be told why that happens You have to go and search it out which you can find on like ifap.me And other assorted things. You know what we hadn't mentioned that we probably should Those who don't know mean ranks are running a plushie campaign as they are called And uh, yeah, I guess just to be sure. Yeah, they're um, you know Some of you guys may not have heard about it yet the cuddly little mubishly and raggles toys They're true. This guy he bought one the super chatter right before you And he loves he's already he's already happy incredibly satisfied with um With the rags one you get adorable doggos all soft and cuddly And with the mola one you get an eldritch horror that can watch movies with you I don't see what else you'd need at that point. You've got the two ends of the spectrum That is actually cuddly that they made one of each as prototypes And sent them to us and it is incredible. We can confirm the cuddliness They're Shockingly gorgeous and very friendly. They don't hit you. Um So, yeah If you're interested in these things you've only got 10 more days before they run away from the internet forever The way that works is they lock in a number and then they just start production in like a big old plushie factory and then they send them all out Um, they come in nice little boxes as well You would think that a plushie factory would be very soft, but it's probably just like A regular factory. Yeah, it's probably just a regular factory. I thought they were like soft and shit Yeah, that would be fun though If the whole thing was like carpeted and it had to tell us everywhere I've got my pair No accidental no accidents with every time someone falls over so I was like, oh, that's nice No accidental discharges from the plushies. No, that can still it can still happen. Oh Kind of rose Yeah, uh, get yours today. Unfortunately the links aren't in the description. I guess they will be on the re upload Okay, you can use that but But now You can just search. I think more and rags plush into google will literally pull them up And I think we're on the front page of makeshift right now. So there you can find us. Yeah, I think so makeship.com and you'll see us there hanging out and of course if you pick them both up You get a 10 discount for the the the efap generation one collection It's wonderful one flying other generations to come Well, the thing is I was I'm more than happy to consider a gen two if we got the 100 funded We're at 800 and something percent funded. So It seems people like these things so we will consider more I imagine Slender more When you squeeze them all plushy at satism if only That would be funny Um from what I understand makeshift are probably gonna, you know, grow and evolve little plushies over time So you might get it to the point where they start adding stuff like that. I know they have ones that glow in the dark now Oh, that's nifty. Yes um It's uh, I honestly it seems to me that like loads of uh sort of channels that are running with makeshift now It's just a really sort of easy way to just get something that fans are gonna want and everybody's happy sort of thing Yeah, they do look great. They really do a good job. Yes, they do Good job. Check them out if you want to check them out. I suppose All right Where are they made? Um The factory switzbekistan, I don't actually know You sure I'm not sure I'm ordering I'm ordering them right now. So no one has any Reason not to do so the same. Wow. That's true. It's not like I get like if metal does it like do you have no excuse kind of thing? Yeah. Yeah Okay Even raise like, I don't know about that. It's like you can't roll over there. Jesus. I'm promoting here. Fuck Don't scream it rags. You're just asking a question If talk strange had powers like this, why didn't he make Thanos forget his goal? That is like, why was I doing any of this? I don't remember where what why is this army for I don't even Why am I a robot? Did I fuck a robot? I'm all alone. I don't like it Yeah, and doc strange gets all upset. He's like, oh, I shouldn't have done this actually. I feel kind of guilty. That's mean. Yeah um Who owns the movie rights to madame web, I think she'd fit in this more than doc just Tony owns those who's madame web he's like Spider-man character Kind of kind of so yeah, sony owns her madame web. They own the film rights They must I Will grab the oh gosh, put that there. There we go Time to power up my devices using water Because I'm a man of industry so you can say Gosh, this is I'm just so efficient at factory making um By any chance, did you watch the six-part tv series dash boot 1981? If not, why what's wrong with you? I thought you're like good media um really into fashion. I think cruella just sort of Turned me off that kind of thing and I'm just Like I appreciate a good boot. I do. Um, I just I don't know like like you said after cruella. It's getting a bit tough to sort of even pretend to be interested in boots now Um, but maybe it's good because it's from 1981 and boots back then they were made different Yeah, maybe the boot world was just different. That's true So, um, yeah, you know, we'll have to give it a shot I think it's way too generous to assume strange as Mephesto or that it's a trick Remember when people assume Mephesto would be behind everything in Wanda vision Yeah, but you have to wait until it ends before you can be sure right? And that's all we're saying. Let's just just give it a give it a chance. Give it a sec Maybe but I guess I guess we'll see but uh because like saying this way too generous Like I don't know. Is there anything such as that with a trailer? Like, you know, who knows Because if it turns out to not be Mephesto, there's no like, ah, you were wrong. There's just no, there's just not Mephesto Yeah It's not a race to be the first to have the Correct take especially if your take was based on guessing Like what what does that work? It doesn't mean anything. It's not. Yeah, exactly Everybody's in a rush to have look at my takes. How correct they are. Look at the house Right. I'm on this one rely on me for the correct take Shut up cringe Again, it's I'm gonna I'm gonna quote I'm gonna quote silicon valley here, you know, who was really arrogant the hair right before he was beaten by the Tornis I'm the fucking Tornis Well I want to watch rewatch silicon valley. That's a it's a really fun show silicon valley Silicon valley. Yeah, the silicon valley is it's a little bit different I don't see plenty of silicon valleys in my time, but No, this is silicon silicon valley about a group of people trying to make and the compression algorithm and then it Tones and whole bunch of shenanigans from there. It's made by uh, the guy who did king of the hill. I feel like I feel like if a rewatch king of the hill, I'd appreciate it more when I was a kid I didn't get it. Like it always it was always this like odd one out where I'm like, I kind of like it but I You know, I don't I I think it was just yeah, because you're so immature. You didn't understand the themes Like all I remember what well, I do remember a bit more about it But like what I distinctly remember was propane like that being a thing like propane I think yeah, I just I think I think I didn't really get it but from what but that that uh silicon valley is is very entertaining. So like king of the hill probably if I rewatched it, I would really like it Yeah I like I like the imagery of peter punched out of spider-man, especially if its themes deal with identity can't wait to watch in 2023 after my lds mission lds mission Oh, oh, right because yeah, you're meant to do missions if you do part of that, right? Yeah, um Yeah, I like it too. I like the idea of Peter's astral being punched out of spider-man. It's like you can do a lot with that We'll have to see what they do with that. Who knows what they will do that Yeah, no Uh civil war critique the timeline of people get to Siberia at basically the same time even though they left at different times Not sure but maybe a bad So you have to look at what everyone's using and at what times and then if it's feasible To be within a certain time frame because you've got a big grace period of when cap arrives Basically the full grace period is from zemo. He can wait for as long as you want. You don't have to worry about that then Steven bucky All you need to argue is that they would have set down once to refuel in some area Yeah, you know the Well, maybe not sleep because they would have been desperate to get there But we need to make enough time for half a day to pass for iron man to get there Um Because we know that iron man We know that they take road at the hospital and then he goes to the raft So I think the big question is where exactly is the raft it is in a ocean, but we're about probably looks cold Looks cold It does look cold. It probably would be the Atlantic That seems like the most likely choice and then if from there It's like well to get to Siberia from like the north Atlantic Probably going to take you that long if you're iron man Yeah, there's there's ways it can you can just slip in and it'll be okay. I don't I don't see it as this like major breach This impossible. It's like I would say at worst. It's a contrivance Yeah, which is a lot of a lot of when you're looking at criticisms for civil war The best you can do is like contrivance um Yeah, and like ultimately for me. I'm just sitting there like uh cap and bucky take a while to search through that facility We don't know how long it took them to get to where they are before iron man caught up with them Which would have been something he did pretty quickly Yeah Oh, I'm gonna have to redo this whole system probably to get this efficient, but uh No, it's a good thing. It's a good thing. You want to make our factories as good as possible. Don't we rags? don't we Ow, I mean it's always about the process of improving maybe Yeah, don't need lazy factories happening here. Okay I Need more coal There's my only source of coal right here. Okay Oh and for those who are curious about the actual factory gameplay, I've turned enemies off I find them annoying. I just want to build my stuff. I don't have to Intimately deal with people sabotaging stuff. I'm just like get go away Wow, I find it hard enough to fucking put everything in order. All right. I'm not some hardcore player You're just a pussy. Not a real gamer Space aliens. I don't know if there's space aliens. There's regular What other aliens are there? What other aliens are there but space aliens Mexico Mexican aliens? Yeah, that's that it's always That is actually a term that is used to like Officially in certain things. I'm pretty sure that our aliens is like actually explicitly in the australian constitution Well, then there you go answered your question referring to when referring to people who aren't yeah Well, there is no clause to deal with what happens to Bailey and show up in australia That would be something else we have to figure out They've got written in any constitutions or like law was like what to do if space aliens show up I'm pretty sure that are the west probably government has stuff that they've that is explicitly about like extraterrestrial Situations I like it. I think that I think so. Yeah. Well, it feels like you I feel like you would have to plan for that because it's always a possibility I'm like not an unreasonable possibility either Mola, would you record the 15 short lines necessary to make you into a ways navigation voice? What now? Maybe upload it to discord. I need sultry welsh nav Wait, they can do that in 15 lines. That sounds pretty efficient Yeah, I thought there'd be more Like the numbers and stuff Yeah, um But maybe they have it is like a complex enough AI that they managed to nail it. I don't know Sounds interesting. I'm not against the idea Uh when disney bought marvel and started making movies. I thought it was a good business decision in definite movies Just like the comics, but then continuity falls apart just like the comics But business-wise it is a good decision because you make a lot of money I think that's it right. It's just like You hope they're gonna care a lot more and I I think they do but then you know It only takes one person to be like I'm gonna make it so this happens And it's like did did this did the opposite of this happen anywhere and someone's like, I don't know. It's like, uh Don't worry about it. It's fine. And then you just do that more and more and more and Then you get low key Everything goes to shit Yay Um, how do you feel about ray showing up in spider-man? I don't know when did ray show up? What am I missing? I'm the real ray Yeah, the multiverse all the rays from the multi ray That sounds bad to me. I don't I don't want a ray showing up us evil The last thing we need to be gone ray. Yes And or all your doppelgangers So all right, the first thing I gotta do is make some coal harvesting devices. It's gonna be great Uh, the restrictions on batman discussed before reminded me of stuff done to sonic comics in 2014 Sonic can't lose cry or say his planet name. What? To planet name. What does he live on planet inward or something? Sonic you can't say that no more Sorry, that's the name of a planet. I can't do anything about it. I wish I could do something about this Stop No, I need more copper Um Do you think peter parker is a palpatine peter parker palpatine? peter palpitas Ker Uh, do you think the current writing quality could have made a good pure character drama Just dealing with the fallout with no universal rewrite So we saying like could we have done fine with just accepting that we lost all those characters from infinity? Or are we saying or are we doing something else? Like I'm not sure this is a good character drama dealing with the fallout with no universal rewrite Oh, I guess they told him a spider-man. So uh, yes the answer is yes Yeah, so interestingly I don't know if you guys have seen this but a lot of people are like no You fucked it up spider-man like all of his stories are about hiding his identity. You can't reveal it now What and I'm just sitting there like oh my god. Why why why why why why why why why why why why? Do we have to have spider-man stories be the specific thing? Cringe she was limiting that I like Why can't people creatively express themselves and read the comic I like that let's do this now Yeah, oh, yeah, I mean if it's a different story. Yeah bad face It's like the whole story could have been amazing and about all of that, but yeah, it'll probably end with his air density being back to normal in terms of secret and I'm like, oh well Yeah I thought andrew garfield had been constantly befuddled as to why people think that he's in the movie from interviews and articles Could be denying it though. He's not the on the actors list. Well There's been some images photos released of him Not only in the suit but also hanging out with tom holland. So the thing about all of this is you can't trust them None of them not me I say this as if they've done something wrong. They've done nothing wrong, but you can't trust them You know they have they've done everything wrong. Don't cover for them. They did it all wrong If you ask him he's not going to say yes I'm already wrong around the clock. I I do believe that uh he's he and Toby being in it was probably something they really wanted to keep secret but just couldn't they couldn't get it They did it got around I knew it'd be weird to bring in electro and not andrew garfield, especially if you would have been on board with it We're like, oh, okay Electro Yay, lizard. Yeah, that's another some people are really excited about lizard. I was just like, okay You do you I guess Belgium um What did we conclude rags was tazm 102 better I think tazm 2 Was better. I think tazm 1 is way worse than people remember Yeah In terms of how the plot unfolds and how people get to where they are and what they know and just the weird bat shit stuff that happens I I think I think it gets overshadowed by the second one in terms of its zaniness But I think that the first tazm is worse Oh boy, that's fair I'd have to re-watch him again. I've already kind of memory hold those things, you know It's only fair everyone does it I don't know why anybody would think those movies were good Well, like if you like really I I just think people don't remember the first one Which I don't blame. Yeah The first one's really bad. I would say I'd better remember anything about it Same A. Longoids I told my friend. I was afraid doc strange was acting out a character in the trailer He responded. I assumed his development happened off-screen because I'm a reasonable person No, that's Oh, that hurt to listen to that's one of them things We are just like let's push it to the extreme and doc strange is just this Insane asylum patient running around going Jumping through portals and stuff and it's like yeah, I mean whatever happened to him happened off-screen, right? It's just a goop. It's just a goop monster all of a sudden He's being a big ol goofman and that's what I love about him It's what's so powerful about it better than anything into other bird scene is shit Which which scene's the bridge scene? I think it's the one with the lizard Um, I can't even fucking remember if I'm being completely honest with you. Look what what happened was it? I remember And I think that it makes sense And then he somehow gets away without anyone knowing that there's a lizard or something I remember the thing at the end where like oh no, how's he gonna get to the oscorp building? And all the people to the crane the crane moments new new york you mess with one of us you mess with us It definitely had that energy Except I like him, but I like uh the same ramy spider-man 2 thing about that I saw the one in spider-man 2 is great. They're they're they're within range They're seeing green goblin being a dick and so they start throwing things at it. That's perfectly normal to me Fine as opposed to hey, let's all line up cranes Come on cranes. We can do it Attach himself to the building shut up. Steven. We're helping spider-man Like an amazing spider-man 2 and when he's fighting in that big electric facility Playing itsy bitsy spider as a lecture It's like dude, what are we doing? It's fucking nice in universe. It's happening. What the hell yeah, see man. See stop it stop it If you talk it's like he has that little chip on his head. Is that getting turned into electricity too? Dude electro the second electro exists. It's like well, that's it. We're ruined like everything Nothing's like it. He's like ultron where it's just like well I'm pretty sure electro electro on the comics is like a dude who shoots electricity. Like that's it Well, um, that's already, you know, that's something Yeah, that's like shocker was way easier to understand in homecoming It's like you've got this little this device that electric use people as it punches. I was like, yeah, okay Punch people with the shocker electricity. Yeah It's beautiful in its simplicity How much more of this stuff do I need gosh? It's so hard to automate everything in this in this world I'm trying I'm trying to just fucking ruin mother nature and she won't let me Been a dick Uh, I actually think Andrew Garfield would have been an awesome green goblin and Dan Dahan would have played a great Peter Parker Um, maybe I feel like both of them were more than capable of doing the roles just they were cursed with the script That's what's cursed. That's true Amazing spider-man 2 is a dumb I don't know what Spider-Man 2 is one of the dumbest things. Yes. Do you remember what he says is evil? It's like really far away from time square, but he could just sort of sense that electro is on his way there or something I like how it's like I see but I remember there was a I think it was something that was in the The y-mess video it's like, ah, see he'd go to the most electric place in New York most electric place Would he not go to the mass electricity grid that's not even a thing the most electric place isn't a thing That's not that's not how it would work. We said this in the debate. It would be like he just connects to the grid And that's it. It's all yeah, it's all electric and it's all connected The most electric place is so funny The electric what else do I need more of this stuff? Oh, I guess I should Oh doesn't do good stuff I don't trust the mcu to be able to pull off this type of story anymore. I hope they prove me wrong seems key jangling the movie high wags Hello key jangling the era that's what we seem to be dealing with The age We've left the information age. We've entered the the jangling age the jangle age I mean Not to mention like book of boba fair is on its way out, right? We're actually close closing in on that now. That's coming out this year coming out in november I think or december why wouldn't they fill that show with cameos? I mean after everything that's happened seriously the luke seed at the end of bad-dose season two It's probably done more damage that we could foresee Yep Yeah, and who's to blame for that Make a grown man cry Make a fucking millions of people lose their shit And How many of those same people are gonna be booting that scene up compared to the ot in futures like Well, why bother just google image search luke skywalker Give the same experience There he is. Yeah We were shouting so heavily for being critical of that scene Oh, yeah, yeah, and then The whole thing we're just going what What are you doing? Given time people start to come around to they always to You know that luke seemed wasn't wasn't as good as I thought it was originally It's like, what did you think originally it's like, well, it's really cool. He was chopping up the robins He's still doing that on that scene changed. Yeah, nothing changed. He's still chopping the fucking robots I Get it you love robot chopping, but I mean Come on now Uh, dr. Strange cast the spell to erase memories however, peter causes the spell to falter It inadvertently brings heroes and villains from other universes peter is told by Defo's goblin to not send them back because they will die Um, I don't know if this is taken from anywhere if that's an assumption, but I mean I guess we'll see It's magic they ain't gotta explain shit because yeah, you're gonna need a plot line to stitch all this crazy bullshit together And I don't know what they're gonna conjure in that regard. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see Or is it metal is it Is it gonna be sad the interesting isn't quotations Please don't not do this to me Um Nothing in phase four feels connected the multiverse makes no sense are people really that hype for this can marvel even use spider-man after this Um, the deal ends after this movie, but I imagine that they're going to this movie will be Hyper successful and then marvel and Sony be like right. Let's read new Well, I mean it seems like spider-man's do it a lot better by being connected to the mcu and you just make more money And I imagine that marvel wants spider-man because it's spider-man If dc didn't have batman they would be making deals with whoever owned him to make sure that they could use him It's probably why they've thrown dr. Stranger in there so significantly not just to explain the spell But also to be like see you want him you want him in the mcu. We can throw him with some of our characters You want that? I mean, I I will say that's like the cool aspect of the mcu is having these characters interact another and it seems like the spider-man movies have leaned into that a lot more than The other ones have though. It seems like that's changed now, but the worst unfortunately Chipped coin said don't bother making a film if it's not 100 accurate So does he think spider-man one is terrible because his webs are organic It was frustrating to see him refuse to see the flaws in that argument Uh from memory It would have I think you said you said you could deviate a little bit But once you deviate enough it becomes it's it's bunk. It's it loses it goes down the the you fucked up hole Um, obviously these are not rules we use ever so I can't possibly advocate for them I think I essentially think they're nonsense like Yep, and I also think it stops us from getting some pretty awesome stories for no other reason than someone's preference I'm just like, hmm I don't think it's worth it Yeah, uh take my heart in dollars mohler also high rags and frongo Yo, thank you Rags Wendy is the hero of the animator pita pan pan is an immature child who doesn't want to grow up and kills many people older than him What a Chad Honestly, I can't fucking remember pita pad that well at this point Well not wanting to grow up. I mean if you're a kid and you don't want to grow up I mean, I don't I I can't really blame you there Especially if your Dad's uh, it's just like a big hole No fun allowed a fun is for fun is fucking shit And you guys need to learn how to work in a factory and wear a suit and go to the bank and And if you're a kid and you're hearing that and you're just your your dad is like allergic to fun And your mom's like, oh Just do what your dad says or he'll beat me or anything Yeah, you don't want to you don't want to grow up fucking up. I don't blame them Um Angry super chat five Wow We've had five of those nice. Oh, wow Uh, tell meme that a snider video is great. Oh, I think he's gone. Uh, uh, he's very aware of everyone's appreciation of that one It's um, he did good stuff Um, oh Oh, yeah, congrats meme on the snider cut video is great and meme has a beautiful singing voice Yeah, did you guys catch the uh the bonus ending? Nope, so I haven't watched yet. I'm not on uh, it's on meme's channel It's gonna be in the visual the video originally unfortunately copyright would not allow it Which makes sense. It was funny. It's a cover of um, mr. Blue sky But with this mr. Edgy guy And it's just all about like the lyrics have changed to just represent everything that snider's done in the fucking dcu Really funny. Um, it's also catchy, but I like I listened to it before it released and I was like, oh You're now gonna get that pasta Copyright, and he was like, no, it's it's not the song. It's like a recreation. And I was like it's like the same Uh, what do you call it when you've you've got like the same is it tune or flow or It's all the same like background or whatever and I was just like I'm pretty sure he's sampled the the um So he's just the instrumental. He has the instrumental playing So I think it was created by rainbow soap. Um Recreated rather like so so it but but I'm pretty sure it's not different enough that bots would Not tell that that it was the tempo melody. Yeah, it's I think you'd have to get permission We'll do that still because it's it's clearly like an alternative vision if you listen to it, you'll know what I mean Um, so yeah, you had to separate it out and but it's really good. Um, and he's managed to make it, uh You know viewable or whatever he hasn't been blocked I I recommend it. It's all very well edited too. It's not just the song To listen to it's also the all the visuals to to accompany it. It's good stuff Um strange gives peter the same wink agatha gives wander agatha posing as strange Anything to try and explain it I guess I appreciate you homosexuals. I write in my free time and thanks to you. I know what to avoid kudos. Hey How wonderful well, I'm very glad that we have been able to help you. Yeah You probably don't care, but dead by daylight is adding pinhead to their game Yeah, I mean the they've gone through a shit ton the hellraiser, right? That's him. He's like the famous one. Yeah Why do they call him pinhead? Um, it's really unclear. I think there's something in the law. I don't know Is it in like the books or the novel of the adaptation? It's probably in the comics I wish they put that stuff in the film. I'd really like to know. Yeah, there's no scene where they're like pinhead Why do they call you that and then he explains it like they don't have it. They're just so lame these days. They don't explain anything That would be useful if you worked at an office and you had a pinhead Uh around so if we ever lost your pin, you'd be like, hey, okay, you got an extra pin It's like, yeah, I just take this one here and he pulls one off and he's like they grow back after a couple days Oh, they grow back. I gotta trim them. Yeah, I gotta trim them. Anyway, you know If we're second there, I was like, you know, he maybe has them in there for a reason He's not just gonna take them out just because you want them, you know Oh, no, he'd be he'd be totally down with it. He loves it. Okay. All right. He just loves to feel helpful That's the kind of person he is. He really enjoys knowing that he's helping other people. You know, that's cute I like this pinhead guy. Is he wholesome? I can't remember. I haven't seen it so long He has holes when you put the pens out Someone said in chat, that's what they called him on set I'm like, that's interesting if the name stuck because that's what they called him on set Hard not to call him that when it kicks off so much Veggie doesn't doesn't like it at all. I was like, stop calling me pinhead All right, your name in the movie is pinhead now. I was like, no Or if they called him up for so long, you just never brought it up as a problem in one day Yeah, I think I think it's time I don't like being called pinhead and you're like, oh It's kind of rude and He's got well, he did he never got a date when he was in high school Because his face was all pimpled Oh I'm stunned to see how the origin. Yeah, I can see where it's going now Uh-huh. It's the lore Uh, hey mootle, you like c.m. Punk coming back to wrestling Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's good shit. Who? Uh, c.m. Punk, he wasn't wwe Maybe just like a little call back and he got so annoyed with working there because he was treated like shit at some point So he was out of wrestling for over seven years And now he came back to the now existing competition. It was very exciting Um, someone in chat said that his official name is hell priest or the lead cinnabye That's lame hell priest sounds a bit more it's better than the lead cinnabye. That's more of a title That like you're like if you don't know who someone is you're like, you know, the the the lead cinnabye You know that sort of thing I prefer Pinhead somehow they managed to have a name like that and it's managed to remain still like it could it could evoke fear Rather than simply being like pinhead. Yeah, it's got this almost it's Scary in on in an almost simplistic way like pinhead like kind of how pyramid head is stuck around Yeah, that's all you've got to work with and if you remember good ol christopher stueckman In his script of totally normal people talking about totally normal things. We're like you can't have people with mundane or normal names be scary and we were all just like Where have you been Jason Freddie So there's a there's a book I read when I was a kid called peter and the star catcher This is odd because it's it's almost it's like a prequel to peter pan Which is oddly something we've been talking about but There was a book I read called peter and the star catchers when I was a kid And the name of the crocodile the man eating crocodile his name was mr. Grinn And that scared me as a kid because there's just something about it. That's just like uh, that's it's scary mr. Grinn And Honestly, it seems more common to do that than to be like, you know Aga gragnag and you're like, ah spooky name. Yeah You're just like rank or it's like, yeah, that sounds like a beast name. I guess a real word Yes, um, and and you can do that too. You can take I guess normal words for everyday sentences and turn it more into a title and then it can evoke Multiple things at once sometimes Adolf and joseph yourself Sauron Sauron sounds like an evil person name, but that might just be because that's how I learned of that name. I guess Don't don't be evil sour on be a good man In the tv show, it's real be a good guy Tell me miss night of video is great will do have done actually, um I'll do it again. God Homosexuals it's amazing that a trailer has assassinated wang peter and strange disney has to be making this a competition at this point I guess you didn't Look, we'll just give it a give it a sec. Yeah, give it. It's not out yet. We don't know And how was wang assassinated? Yeah I'd be curious about that one Maybe they're gonna argue like as soon as he knew that there was a potential for this He should have stayed to make sure it wasn't gonna happen or something What if he's got something very important to do elsewhere? Like shang chi Well, yeah, maybe Or some other misadventures Why don't we misadventure so I can be regular adventures? Well, you know, crazy stuff's going on in this crazy mcu world That's fair Why do we stop talking about spider-man spider-man's coming out? Hello good boy rags Hello there. How are you? Can't answer. I hope you're well Also, I hopefully the question was answered I don't know if it was now at this point the uh, the whole him being in dead by daylight thing They do a really good job of implementing sort of There I say guest celebrity evil people in that game So I hope pinhead fans are happy about it. I don't know They're not just re-skins of other characters. There's actually something about them Yeah, like oh like from the movies or oh that yeah, that's what he'd kind of do or oh Yeah, he's EP moves like he Yeah, like he doesn't you know, if you were trying to add these people into the game with new mechanics They do clearly think about it from a point of view of having watched the stuff and understanding them Anyways to satisfy the fans. Um, you know more combat do seem to do that as well Uh, at least from the ones I played but um Because this is the thing that's like a whole topic on its own. Is it like tacky to bring in Stuff like that or is it like a spectrum where if you do it really well, it's actually kind of really awesome You know In grace's spoiler review. Oh, yeah, so by the way before I read this Um, apparently I watched the we watched the wrong video on efab 150 the one I was sent to wasn't the one we watched It apparently gets much worse There's a spoiler and a non-spoiler. I thought because I thought I grabbed the worst rated one from a recent videos But I I must have been a blind man because the the maybe that one is just one that got covered by somebody else Or discovered first or something. Who knows? Well, so Yeah, she's released a non-spoiler and spoiler and apparently the the spoiler one is the one that everyone hates The non-spoiler one's pretty bad, which by the way is kind of shocking to me that we saw the less painful one So you might just see us cover the spoiler one in future because apparently it gets so much worse Um For example in grace's spoiler review. She said Harley Quinn stuff was a horrifically positive spin on prisoner. Great. Well, it's great Um, she's like a hot take fountain that one so thing, um People talk about power dynamics, but like if you watch that scene, uh, Harley's not really Coerced She kind of she's she's gunning for it. She's very happy for the for the for the with the guy I guess and so and if you want to go as far as saying nope, she can't because she's technically a prisoner. She'll be like, all right I guess we're gonna have to just deal with the fact that She can't make any decisions in that environment Um, which is awkward but that that gets into all other discussions about stuff But it wasn't surprised that she brought that up. I would just rather focus on The incredible mindset it takes to have said the polka dot man's relationship with his mom was misogynist That's the cat. I've heard it so many times and so does our It don't get old insane Watch twilight for the first time last night 10 out of 10 peak fiction. You think school says he thinks it's cinema. I'm off my House off. Yeah, I must do right It's the It's non-franchise when the first one comes out. It's you know, it's what else does it does it? Does it also satisfy the rest of his crazy criteria? I hope so Do do do what are you guys's favorite manga if you read them just finish reading chainsaw man And it's easily my third favorite a bit tis me but a lot of fun. Yeah rags. What's your favorite manga? um This thing I could make up any name and it's probably believable as a manga name Let's see a Teenage sushi happy happy is my favorite manga It's a little bit better than the hentai it was based off of Um Just explored the characters in more depth, you know, oh, it certainly explored the characters in more depth. Absolutely That was a good one. I like it's gonna be somebody in chat who googles that they're like, that's not real, right? It's like no no No For you, what's your favorite manga? Feel free to give the same answer Volume of one punch man Oh But it's very similar to the show because I imagine it was based exactly one to one with it Yeah, it is. It's really good. I liked it Well, uh metal. What's your favorite mononga? That's probably the only one I've read in the past 15 years. So I'm have to go with one punch man as well Um, I'll go with Gamer thrones that counts, right? Yeah, probably The suicide squad is the first half decent movie dce you shout out So, oh, sorry. So it's the first half decent movie the dcu shout out and it still didn't even break its budget with box office sad It's not really fair though, is it? It's the only one that's come out during panda bobbic time except for one 184 I guess Um, it would be really cool to see what the suicide squad would have resulted in had it come out um in 2016 Yeah, I wonder who would have gone down as one of like a favorite of superhero movies, you know Maybe it would have helped boost the fuck out of sniders bullshit Dude imagine maybe we'll get the uh the video essays about you know, like a year from now two years from now I was like why the suicide squad was gray and or just what we needed or something or why it was a failure The awkward part is that when you have like the Seems like some people are most like lying like they didn't enjoy it, but they feel like they have to say that they Really got that impression you remember that That high top one on Yeah, he didn't like it It seemed like he didn't like it but that he felt like he had to because it's a creative vision Of course because people actually enjoyed this film Yeah, like he just want to well the same thing happened with black widow if you remember he put out loads of tweets saying like I've got nothing to say about this movie But should I do a video for the for the dollar and everyone was like yeah, do it do it do it It's like man. What an existence Your favorite youtuber everybody I don't want to have to talk about it. Don't make me And then yeah, his um, we wouldn't bother covering it on e-fap Because it's like nothing happens in the video, but uh, oh he found it in for a high top video That was fun didn't yeah If you listen anyone out there was listening to this right now after the show if you if you venture into the world of high Top and check out his suicide squad commentary. My god. He didn't give a fuck It's just all the words he said all the big video ss words doesn't he say the movie was alive Like what what what does that mean? I didn't like it because if you liked it you would have said it was like amazing or excellent It was weird When mary jane says male spiders can hypnotize women are they trying to explain the pheromones from black widow also high racks Oh my goodness gracious How did she know how did she know Did a piece. Oh did a piece of the red room fall and land right next to her and that's how they could be it My god, how did you know right? It's like you it's like you wrote this stuff I don't need to insult me. Well, I mean You know, you could have done it because you're paid to write it that way. I don't know Do you think it would be convenient or inconvenient as a human being to be totally covered in fur? Um So convenience for warmth. I'm guessing is the idea there I guess yeah, so I'm wondering. Yeah I think if all of a sudden we just like sprouted fur everywhere probably but if we always had it and we kind of Developed with it and we were used to it then maybe not as much I suppose I'm the reason why I wonder is if we had a coat of fur Would that have limited the places that we could exist on earth Pride doesn't seem to limit animals Wow, it seems to it seems to depend right like certain animals are the furry living certain environment than certain animals You know different environments um Like I imagine that if you plopped a grizzly bear into the middle of the amazon that it would be not particularly uh comfortable existence But conversely if I dropped a jaguar in the arctic That would go well for him either So I guess I'm wondering I mean what the applicability What if well some will shed they get winter coats and stuff like that. So maybe that would be something So are we are we factored? I guess I'm just wondering if that fact is in like if humans had fur and then they had to shed It's like would that not be highly inconvenient in terms of the mess that it would leave As rags said we at this point we would have had all these We probably all have a hoover in our room that we regularly use maybe or maybe not I don't know. I wonder what that would look like as an evolutionary thing though. Like if you were if you were um You know, maybe we'd look like gorillas. We'd look more like gorillas or maybe our faces would be more Uh, oh I guess um Yeah, they could I guess because there's different types of like fur in terms of what it would be like and how much it would cover What I meant covered in fur I basically meant animal like in terms of just that much as opposed to um You know like what's probably be more advantageous in terms of because the the cold is it kills a lot of people every year globally Just simply being too cold. Yeah, so maybe that in and of itself would just kind of be like Really do we get worried about people overheating? I guess more so maybe it depends Maybe that would be one of the things that would separate like that's how you could tell the difference between where you're from Or your your ancestry or what not is that some some you know different races might have different Like hair length density Yeah, like it would be maybe thicker in certain parts or thinner in other parts something like that Might distinguish us and then as we mix and mixed and matched we'd get different combinations I feel like it would be because if if If uh if the furs were different colors and stuff Then there was different variations and like patterns and things like that Then it would be very difficult to be like racist in society potentially difficult to be raised It would be too difficult or two. It's true, but it's mostly because they don't drink enough water What seems like it's it's harder to look well It it seems like I mean it's the whole thing of like winter is coming right the reason why that's the thing is because like Winter has historically been the hard time as opposed to summer which usually isn't viewed as the hard time Um I don't know but I mean evolutionary wise we used to and then it got lesser and less and then we developed an incredibly great cooling system through sweating and all that Yeah, I guess It didn't have to happen this way Who knows if it would have who knows say what now the animals with first sweat or is or do they get Different degrees to different degrees they will. Um, I think that the human the process of sweating and the sweat glands that we have is uh Not typical amongst animals and our system works really really well for keeping us cool um Other animals will sweat in different ways. I think like dogs on their pads animals their mouth Can't to get hit out right or that's that's like a really good way to cool down. That's one way Interesting to think about like other animals have to find these sometimes Unintuitive ways of like cooling down We would be certainly I mean the fashion industry would certainly change. We'd probably just wear less clothes in general because it's like doubling up Right There there'd be much maybe people would be more fit If they couldn't hide their bodies under clothes as much so they'd have more incentive to Look nice and work out and stay healthy. You can just put a you can put on big shirts and long sleeves and puffy stuff to To you know cover up as much so you're like, oh, yeah. Well, I guess I better Look nice. I don't know. Maybe I I wonder if like that was ever an incentive though because like back in olden times Like most people weren't fat and it's like you still had clothes to cover it up It was like I think it's because they didn't have as much access to all the food and the kinds of food I think well, I mean, I'm pretty sure that's categorical, right? The reason why is because like human beings there was an incentive To eat as much as possible when you could because you didn't know when you'd be eating next And so now with the abundance of food, it's like, oh, that's not helping us anymore Like you're not gonna starve You have no reason to store up like excess fat reserves or anything like that So anyway Mola, yeah, you called a dshk a minigun in your black widow video Please shame yourself publicly great review by the way. Give it a good work high rags and prospect to m Hello, yeah, look me too. That wasn't a minigun. That's okay. It's the same principle It was more of a yeah It's more of a just hopefully you understand the I'm trying to say it's a thing that fires stuff Someone in the conversation did say it's worth having pointed that out because of the fact that it packs such a punch that uh that particular gun And so that that uh that helicopter ain't having a good day. Let's just put it out that way that gun shoots the russian 50 cal 12.7 by 108 millimeter Gotta rip through that helicopter, but I think I think a minigun would do just the same Yeah, it's a distinction without any difference in terms of the video Because this is the thing I saw it and I was like, I don't fucking know what model or maker thing that is I'll just call it. I think I called it a light machine gun in the original vision Then I was like, I should probably just call it a minigun or something because I have fucking It's not a light machine gun. It would be a heavy machine gun Well, I was wrong no matter what I don't know Yeah, Mola your critiques are poor. They really are idiot I'm gonna the reason that light machine guns are called what they are and that that's always something that Reasonably confuses people when they see people in games and stuff running around with light machine guns But they're the biggest guns that any of the like the classes or whatnot carry Is because they're scaled down versions essentially they're more portable versions of what was the heavy machine gun or the machine gun Which was these big Implacements that were multi-person crude And operated big things that you'd set up Like they're like the world war one style kind of things Uh-huh. So light machine gun became they became developed and After that around this age and they really became a lot more popular because they were scaled down versions of the heavy machine guns Or the machine guns. It sounds a little bit gay, but you know, I understood a lot. Well, that's okay That Hassan parody in 150 was top-notch. Thank you for sticking to it to that stupid pampered jackass real content has never been tried Oh my god Yeah, we had fun with it. I thought it was funny I hate the loss Mel you missed that the fun parody times I did that wasn't a second Thingy. I'm guessing did you did you see it? Did you know about it? I I knew you what you will do it because you told me to have a chair picture That's the kind of prep we do on e-fair Make sure you have a chair picture Yeah, I did chelly uh injustice with this would have been the official chelly efep debut. Yeah, sorry Chelly missed out Um, what's the difference between a light machine gun and a submachine gun? Not an unreasonable question if you just hear the words and then see that they're basically polar opposites from one another Some machine guns shoot pistol cartridges and they're generally designed to be small and compact Light machine guns are essentially like squad automatic weapons. They're rifle chambered lighter versions of heavy machine guns interesting Just tested positive for the coof, but that means I have more time to catch up on 150 now rags Some swole guy on discord wants to know how you rank dead space compared to re4 Ooh, that's a good question. I haven't played dead space nearly as much as re4. Honestly, I'd have to play them More to decide I like them both and they are similar But I legit don't know I think I prefer I think I prefer re4 But they're both really good games and I like them both immensely Yeah, I love them both I had I got all of the achievements for dead space one and two back on the xbox. I played the shit out of those games I played them a bunch and I like them a whole bunch Um, but I think I like re4 better As for which one is better Honestly, it's probably dead space, which is better in terms of its No design and stuff. I do think that space probably will win out in that regard But um I am not certain. I do not know Yeah, I wouldn't speak on that. I need to play them both again uh You know what love them for similar reasons in a lot of ways They're both fun on the bun And yeah, um, I hope you you hope you do all right with the with the the koof. Hope you get better. Yeah um And so I'm followed up with dead space is better and Is that the new tiger versus bear question? I don't know. Maybe Maybe everyone will have different different opinions on that. I have to play. Yeah I have to play a lot more dead space. Uh, the problem is that it doesn't like to run well on modern pcs Uh dead space two and three don't have this issue But dead space one was not hurted. Well, you have to like Mod stuff for it to get it to run proper or run better Did mel get like hit by something? Oh, I hope not I'm playing more isaac trying to get the lost unlocks and it's the fucking worst thing in the world Yeah, see I ain't doing that You can go you can go into the sacrifice room without getting hurt and go back with your holy mantle But if you go into the sacrifice zone and a troll bump appears and blows you up and gets rid of your holy mantle That's gg can restart the run. Yay I ain't playing without bullshit. It's too upset and that you get two hits a maximum at all times like nah I really want the fucking god hand, but that means I need to do all the unlocks for the lost I just hope that's not one of those things where you unlock it finally and you're so satisfied and then you're like right now on board I'm gonna play a scary world. Yeah There's like, oh no I'm gonna try the dead space remastered. I did not know there was a dead space remastered Yeah, you did I thought you did. Yeah Did I yeah, absolutely dead. Oh no, they're remaking dead space Yeah, I know about the remake I they said, oh, okay. I think they might have just took it for it. It's a remake. Yeah Yeah, I uh, oh, we'll all be checking that out when it comes out. I'm sure someone said play IRL dead space rags Just start shooting things while on acid No You'll get in all the trouble I will get in trouble. Yes You're gonna hold your bad shooting randomly and also doing acid One thing is worse than the other one. I like you decide which one that is Um If the mc is going on full on multiverse, can we have blade come in and be the new black panther killing vampires with vibranium weapons? Why the fuck no? Marvel's what if Um, is it weird that the spell doesn't exclusively listen to the person casting it? Well, there could be a lot of reasons why talking during a spell could fuck it up But it's just dumb that that's happening at all. It's yeah, that's such a concern. Just don't have peter in the room please Yeah, it's all lame Um, you know what I love in stories consequences remember when stories had those any favorite consequences and stories reminder that molla says Uh, yeah, y'all good instead of yogurt because he's a filthy heathen. Yeah, I say yogurt Yogurt is always sound odd to me yogurt You go hot That's how that's how one caveman would greet another back in the day. He'd be like, hey yogurt And it would be like, oh, hey, uh rank Is one caveman with a normal dirt and gunk or their names Good old dirt and gunk Um All this talk of spooderman makes me want to bust out my perfectly legal copy of the 70s japanese spider-man on blu-ray Have a good day massives also high rags and hello fringy Hi there I've seen the ads for that the japanese spider-man from the 70s Hi rags Have you guys played dst don't starve together if you have what are your thoughts if you haven't I recommend it's great I have not played it I play I have both of them the normal one and the together one. I didn't I didn't like it that much Not it's a bad game. I just didn't I just didn't get into it at all. It's like I've seen the gameplay I don't think I'd care for it based on what I've seen. I just I don't I don't recall really liking it Or liking what I saw. It just didn't look appealing to me or fun But it's weird that I didn't like it that much because I normally really like roguelikes So, I don't know. Well given all the isaac shenanigans. Yeah Yeah Um mcu assassinates characters so efficiently the german national socialist workers party based their final solution on their framework Wow Wow, I don't know if that makes any sense, but wow Oh Sounds like you guys or at least some of you have seen what if have you? Unfortunately, yes It's bad. It's the big stinky and I I wouldn't recommend anyone watch it I think I haven't seen the third one. Apparently that one's better and Like the first two were pretty fucking abominable. So Rags, I'm so glad to see you making videos again. We need to make more sensible people. We need more sensible people rather. Um Let's play soon, man. Always friends on already friends on steam Riley's sad sad. Oh, Riley's adam's apple. There you go Oh, I know that name. I know that name um Imagine a hero had heard there was a spider person sourced for a planet to cast a world altering spell for personal gain This is a villain story a little bit. Um And so you expect someone's gonna learn a lesson at some point. That's gotta be it, right? That's gotta be the What else could it mean? I guess we'll find out if if that's gonna be the angle Ita learns about responsibility again Again If that movie's aquaman when it's my favorite dcu movie to watch because it's so atrocious I can totally see that I think It's a funny movie meme isn't gonna be the next effect movies. He's working on is not that And then after that it might be that um All I can say is eventually look how long it took for this night to cut video, you know It's it's like it The the production can be huge sometimes or sometimes maybe not and You know what you'll you'll be very happy when it comes out. That's that's how it works I would say the same Do do have y'all seen pandorum seen it last night That's the one. I have not seen it I have I don't remember what I thought about it though It's a weird movie. That's what I remember That is my commentary in full. Dennis quaid is in it also guy from 310 to yuma And other guys guy who was a pro guy was the wing guy with the wings from x-men 3 I guess I know his name No, his actual name The halloween lights are witches the wink strange equals agatha all along. Yeah, maybe maybe maybe Can only hope at this point quick chat a contract from below or rotten baby rotten baby What is contract from below we do again Doubles all pickup drops That sounds pretty good rotten baby. That's pretty good. I've never played the game, but it sounds pretty good I'd probably go with contract from below over on baby, but it's it's a tough one. I agree Press extra baby Contract obviously baby baby rotten baby. Well, I guess it's not obvious, huh? Woof Is the rotten baby just a satisfaction of having a dead baby confirmation? Yes Also, it spawns blue flies when when I'm shooting You know how you like your blue flies rags Well done I'd give Brie a rotten baboo. No Rotten baby. That's looks kind of 50 50 that didn't help at all chat. Thank you Baby from below. They're trying metal geez Trying hard enough Do better chat. Oh Got him. Oh, you're really offending him Oh, it's like with someone when this weird moonhead appears. I already know someone tried to do a kappa in youtube chat Is that a different name for buttface the moonhead is um Kappa face kind of if you look at it Yeah, I was like, hmm They did their best. I don't blame them I guess they didn't want to just copy it outright. I wonder if there would be like any issues there potentially if they did. I don't know Goddamn it metal. Okay. What you take it will die anyway. I mean, yeah, I'm playing the loss and I'm shit Smooches again. Yeah Do better moodle beckons All right Have you listened to Jordan Peterson explaining Peter Pan? It's a whole new point of view that woke me up about life and life sacrifices I haven't no I have not Maybe we'll get a return of the my One weakness small knives in the new sputum and also high racks Hi there Small knives can really do it small knives in a way like you could call bullets that you know Small flies knives No, yeah, yeah No, they're not small knives. Yeah No, have you seen a bullet? Yeah You'll get there one day, right? Okay Now you'll get back one day bullets up to the realm of sanity Yeah What do you guys think of southpaw's civil war takes an sk's claim that return of the jedi throne room assassinated luke's character Those people those people have opinions They need to have less misses and more hits I So the the thing that makes me adore return of the jedi Is essentially all the throne room stuff Is the throne room? I'd be very surprised if there is something I managed to miss in that that assassinates luke skywalker's character. That's That's news to me. Um Obviously It's potentially true You don't sound very convinced there mauler Well, it would be tough to convince me on that one. That's one of them That's one of them fundamental like man You're gonna have to really make a good argument to change everyone's minds on that one. That's that's a thing that To a degree the throne room is is like the part that is the great part of that film Yeah, I'd be really surprised if you convinced people that luke was assassinated In one of the scenes that is referenced for all time to define like who he is So it's great because I recently very recently rewatched turn of the jedi I did not get the impression That luke or maybe you missed something for you The war is a mess. Absolutely. It's a really really good What could anybody claim was the assassination of luke in that scene? Is it that he didn't kill vader? Is that But he's very clear on why he wouldn't do it I'm not sure. I don't understand. What would be said to be out of character? I don't I that is I I mean, that's yeah, that's where we're at. We'll have to wait until whatever the argument is comes out Unless it's someone knows what the argument is. I I don't know what it is As for civil war like again heard a lot of the argument I'm not worried about civil war. It's gonna be fair. Not at all. Not at all Many times pretty pretty common What was that rex No Maybe we'll get a return. Oh wait, I read that one look behind Wait, am I missing a little behind? Ah little behind But one of the reasons I love the newer dread is that they didn't feel the need to take off the helmet They let the character be expressed as he should the faceless personification and the fist of justice I mean Okay, so I just want to be careful about this like you don't have to have dread never take off the helmet But my god, did I that that was awesome in that film? Yeah, because it you get you've got a sense that he is like so committed That there's just there's never a time because that that helmet is a part of the the approach of dealing out as I said justice But also protecting himself and stuff. There's just no this is the problem with mcu They take off their fucking one of the ones I remember the really annoyed me was when uh peter quill's got a gun on Peter parker And he's like yeah, like just when they're in the middle of clarifying stuff It's like dude, but the helmet back on he's got a gun to your head There's no reason and like the one that was really stupid when he puts the bomb on thinners his back takes His helmet off and jumps and that's like why would you do that? Yeah, you got to make sure we see his face when he Flips him off. It's like that's weird. I don't I don't need I like the helmet I like his helmet. I really cool that he keep it on more often You don't need to take it off. He can keep it on Fine Utilize the design of cost Maybe you just need to get used to it for any right? Nah No No I don't got to do nothing Um Long man, will you consider inviting just some guy someday? Sure. I get I got along with him just fine. I don't know if he'd be super interested Uh, I assume he will because he seems much more comic focused and I always find like, oh I don't know if comic focused people are gonna have fun here as much Because the second something gets bad should have been like, yeah, they didn't do it the way the comics world could be like Oh, I don't care moving on Anyway Um, but he sounds like he's interested in talking about you know, like uh non comic media as well Also, what annoys you the most long man bad, but my themes or your wrong doesn't elaborate Um What annoys me the most Probably I think the long man bad one annoys me the most Why? I guess because there's just less to it But they think it's a point. Yeah, but at least with the thematics and stuff there's generally some kind of an argument or some kind of a Discussion that they're trying like they're trying to explain it to you But the long man bad thing like, oh, it's just it's just bad to make a four hour movie And that's that and everyone's like, yo, let's do it So I was gonna say The reason why I don't find long man bad annoying is because it's so it's such an easy disregard. It's like too long. Okay. Bye And it's true Meanwhile with you like but my themes is usually you misunderstood the content and I'm always like Because you can claim that and it'll be satisfying for people who disagree with you to see it It'll be like, yeah true, but there's just never usually elaboration. You're just like, yeah, I missed it I misunderstood it. Yeah, you got me That's that I guess And then uh, you know saying you're wrong without elaboration again can be disregarded really easy. You're just like, I'm wrong You didn't say why? Okie dokie But like you didn't understand the content. You're like, okay But you did or you are a genius um Fringy, you don't have to answer if you consider it too spoiler-ish, but in Ghost of Tsushima, which ending did you choose? um, I chose the one that uh that uh Shimura wanted Um, I think that I I don't know. I I didn't I didn't have it to not to not follow through And are you going to play the new expansion? Oh, um, I wasn't aware of that might look into it. We'll see China China, uh, I don't China Fringy, you don't oh wait. That was that one. Really weird that the Osborns Have barely been mentioned in the mcu given how Norman and Harry usually are important characters for Peter So that's not weird until they randomly fucking join up and they're just like, oh my old friend Norman Osborn will be like what? So that's that's the thing it's not a problem until it's a problem. Um Because in this world it could be that Norman and uh Sorry, not yeah, Harry's the friend right Harry and Norman could exist And they could have nothing to do with Peter. They could just be a family that's really rich and you know competitive You could you could argue that Recently the Osborns rose to power as a as a response to stark industries. They're like we're trying to You know reduce the monopoly stark has you know, there's plenty you can do with that and then Um, you could have it be that he meets Norman. Sorry fucking Harry in uh university or something and they get along really well And then stories unfold I see what they do if they do anything, but yeah, no, I I agree. It's strange. We haven't heard of or seen any Osborn stuff I'll have to see uh what they're planning on doing with that Just have to see that's like a lot of stuff Just wait and see Um, oh, I was curious if you were ever going to review If you're ever going to review for the Star Wars prequels, uh, I'd like to at some point Just don't like to promise anything We shall maybe have a look at them at some point. I would prefer so I simultaneously want to try and find The parts of the prequels that I think are worthwhile and also Fucking bat it down that they considered masterpieces by anybody. It's like you you're nuts. You gotta stop not good. They're bad They're all bad They got they got big big chunky flimps in them and you know, we don't want that Um Uh molly, you're the big guy fringy you're Hammond and rags. You're the tiny person and this is efap gear How could fringy be Hammond and rags is the tiny person Hammond is the tiny person Hammond Richard Hammond like from Dead Space Probably from from top gear because they said efap gear That's true. Yeah, I'll be my assumption. I'm definite. Well, I don't even know who I am I was gonna say we don't I don't know that we map on to the three personalities in top gear that well You know, he's like, oh who gets into accidents the most You don't have to think about that one Uh, why oh why are you making me buy more stuff off to buy some plushies the moola one is so damn cute Now I'm gonna be sleeping with mohler. Oh No, no, I'm You know, that's that's one of the options you have there. I'm not gonna say it's not Yes Episode three is the best because the young wing scene that is true It was excellently executed But they're all bad Unfortunately, I don't think I wanted to are really bad Yeah For a second I thought you were talking about what if I was like for some reason I like jumped over to that And I was like, wait, right? You saw the third one without me. Why would you do that? How would you subject yourself? Oh Oh no Uh, unfortunately, I don't think film quality has much effect on revenue I think it's mainly down to prior investment in characters or actors slash directors. Yeah, this is the thing Spiderman no way home that thing could make a lot of money and If it does, I don't know what that tells people You know, I don't know. I don't know what they conclude We need more cameos More spider-man Um, did you see film theory on falcon winter soldier? I was glad to see map pat being a fan of marvel Didn't stop him seeing the idiocy in the do better of do better Well, good neat. It would be nice if more what youtubers were able to see the right the fuck through that bullshit like It was awful and it's embarrassing that they got away with like putting that in the script Like you listen to it and you're just like Do better my ass Uh, by the way dank pods on youtube is hilarious though. His stuff is not media Very well dank is that um Uh, dankula's The podcast isn't his podcastism Think so. Yeah And I think that the acronym is I know sm is salt mines um The current what ti is And I was incredible. I'm assuming. Oh, it could be. Yeah. Yeah. Um I'm assuming they've got that going. I haven't I haven't checked in I don't know You do rags dead space one on steam runs fine. What are you on? Only problem is that you have to load and not continue because if you hit continue it lowers the difficulty really no Dead space on steam is it's oh, it's a bad port. It's infamously bad If it works good for you and lucky lucky Honestly, I think james told me about this time city a huge issue this way was playing it Yeah, I there's a lot of physics based issues in terms of frames per second and stuff like that um It's in the control the way that it maps the aiming to the mouse is no good No good No good That's no good And if you can't trust sonic who can you trust? No one really shadow Nice cock. I love the idea that Idris Elba is going to be the voices knuckles. That's great Just what we need I need to I haven't even seen the first sonic movie yet. Oh, it's it's it's in there Is it in there nothing bringing you feel what you feel in there as a good summary Man like the problem is I barely remember anything about it. I remember like I remember I remember being Just normal like kind of stupid um Yeah It wasn't offensive bad. No. No, it definitely wasn't If it reminded me of like 2000s bad, you know, we're like it wasn't painful the simpler times SA2 a trust sonic adventures too. No, I'm not gonna play any sonic game once Sonic adventure 2 was the one where shadow the hedgehog is mistaken for sonic the hedgehog And then sonics like that's why they've mistaken me for the likes of you That's a bit racist The likes of you I think he said that exactly. I'm pretty sure it's verbatim It was a six out of ten. No, it wasn't Stop it. I must you hate for you. Why must you hate? Feel the need to steal the feels Um, you read my super chat and ignored my question off my ass. I was try again What is your favorite consequence and stories? Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah that I remember reading that my bad That's true. Um, okay Hmm favorite consequence I know that there are examples, but I don't want to say what they are Oh, you would you say so would you say soma's ending? That's what I was thinking of as well Well, because this is an interesting category because in some ways aren't like all you know like t2's ending It's like that's a major consequence. You could argue right like it's A consequence of having to get rid of anything that could lead to skynet means you have to get rid of Arnie like that's a Does that count because if it does that's one of my favorites Yeah, it's a something that you can kind of you should know is coming But you might have ignored it because you wouldn't want it to be the case Oh, it's the same thing with soma's ending maybe. Yeah, I think so I guess yeah, what I'm saying is like it just seems in a lot of ways that is a lot of payoffs Is you could you could categorize them as consequence Potentially being unforeseen um The ending to multi python in the holy grail of course That's always bugged me when I was a kid and I saw that because I hadn't learned like I was still new to Sort of the movies and stuff and it was just it always bugged me. I'm like that's just but But do they find the the grail? Like I don't understand what happens to them. Do they Like it I just always really bugged me about life Brian I'm glad those movies held up though. I watched them recently In English for the in English for the very first time funnily enough because I only watched them in german all like all these years back and those are me They could probably work for efab movies, honestly, maybe Yeah, yeah, I could see that Yeah, I was very impressed how good of a job they did in the german uh in the german dub Wow always praising the germans Yeah, because the jokes are pretty much the same. It's like damn. They did a really good job Well, I'm glad Yeah, me too Um, is that is there anything else you guys thought about with the the consequence stuff or is that we on point? um Civil war, that's really cool consequences um I think what it's people talk about best consequences. It's the ones that don't surprise you where you're like Oh, yeah, I guess that would yeah, that would be What would happen? Yeah Not one of those weird Sort of you couldn't have possibly seen the consequences of this I would have Like those can be okay depending on the payah or depending on how they're set up and you know stuff like that, but I mean we talk about consequences of sycovia chords, you know all that stuff like that's like that's a really good set of consequences Yeah, you can yeah, that would totally make sense. You can argue. It's what the world would actually operate Yeah, something you see coming but the experience for me was just like finally Thank you What about secret group of ninjas that control the world? And then vampires aliens illuminati demon groups that do the same thing I'm not sure what this is in regards to I'm saying like an alien group is sort of they take the place of the um Illuminati thing where they control the world, but it's actually aliens controlling the world I mean, I don't know. It's I don't care for it myself, but I'm not entirely sure what the question means honestly Yeah I'm all answering questions like biden by not answering. I only missed the one Just one got them now. It's all good Um battlefield four and battlefield one plus premium passes of five dollars each right now on origin everyone should grab them. They're fun Wait, what yeah battlefield four and one. I'm literally playing battlefield one right now. Yeah But yeah four and one are pretty great Uh the premium passes come with All the maps and all the stuff and a lot of the dlc maps are really excellent um There's a lot of stuff to unlock and some of the unlocks are annoying as fuck, but That's all right. There's a lot of good stuff in there especially for five bucks. That is a um Yeah, that's quite excellent Look mom i'm doing mass production Stop it evil cooperation kill him. Yay. I've got all of the things Put things down and my power output is like only a fifth of total it's going great Though I think a lot of my machine's not even active so Or I make some more of these things so didn't I just pick up a whole bunch of oh, okay Um rags bullets are just weird small knives I agree. They're weird. They're definitely weird. Guess we'll put you here Beautiful I will buy all of you ice cream and solve world hunger if you guys are able to get on chris o'neill to cover a Nostalgia Critic video. I know it's a pipe dream, but a massive can dream connie Dude, that would be chris o'neill. I'd be really cool. R. N. G. Yeah Oh That would be fucking wonderful. Hey. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna happen. Yeah PC of course Why why the fuck would I play a battlefield game on a console? Because you want to handicap yourself because you're so good at it? No, it's easier to play on people on console or shit. Oh my god I remember there was there was a period of time when I was still new to pc And I would go back and play battlefield 3 and the xbox after starting to really play it on pc And when I went back to the xbox and played it I was like, man, everyone's trash on the console version I was dominating everyone was just I was like, how come everyone's so bad at shooting and how come Everyone's reaction times are so much slower. How come everyone's just terrible Did you ever get your answer? Yeah, it's probably the fact it was 30 fps and you're playing on a controller That could be it I will agree Autoway makes men weak I'm sorry. I I should aim assist Um, I lost friends trying to argue with them in the same style you do on e-fap Some people just don't value super consistency and text role play I mean I I Text role Like when your OCs are fucking Like I'm not I'm not sure what that is, but I would say like Most people don't want to talk about movies this way. Um Yeah, you got it. You got to do some room reading Yeah, like Because yeah, some people just like yeah, I won't go watch the fun movies and see the fights now. That's totally cool Um, and I guess differences that a lot when we're responding to videos People who like actually best to be big fans of movies and talk about movies and do it for a living Yeah, a great example is twin perfect said in his video He is here to correct the record enough of this misinformation about snider movies and we're sitting here like whoo-hoo We love this. Yeah, we're just like you and then in the conversation. He was like no actually His video was very bad and he was very bad himself and what you'll find Is that most people do not yeah, like the cringe said they don't want to talk about the movies the way that we do it They want to say didn't you like that like I like that and then they want the other person to say yes I also like that When they go no, I did not like that. They're like, oh Oh, I don't want to play with you. I don't want to play with you You're ruining it. Um, so yeah, you know But at the same time, you know, maybe maybe they weren't really a good friend if they're gonna Ditch you over the fact that you want to talk about stuff making sense. Yeah Yeah I wouldn't want to rule that out But at the same time, yeah, you know some some people just really don't want to talk about movies that way and that's fine That is fine I mostly don't bother with my friends. It's like, yeah, I'm just gonna let them do their thing Wow, I didn't talk on our discord server about movies. I was like, I was just gonna mute that channel You know Spider-man looks so good Metal tears up as usual Um, warframe is getting crossplay slash save soon thoughts Crossplay slash say you can't wouldn't mean cross say oh like cross save. Yes. Yeah, like, okay. I mean, that's good Yeah Good for them. Um, I only played warframe briefly and I thought it was fine I just didn't get into it. I think I played it. Yeah, I played it about 70 hours in total over a period of time and I feel like I just Feel like I just Did it all like I was done Like it just got to be really boring and repetitive and the unlock system for getting new things just frustrated me and And it was just I just like yeah, this is run its course. I'm done with this now Warframe is one of those games for me that I installed twice played I think the tutorial level and a couple of missions and then stopped for no reason And that's all I ever did I don't know It happens Um, eight shads like army of dead beyond efeb never What? What about army of dead someone Someone asked me, uh, when will your friend to like army of the dead beyond efeb? I'm not gonna check them to this The one to cry that poor guy Really he never did you ever find out why that someone would like a film like that? I wanted to ask him, but then he we had to move the weekend and on the next one I just forgot about it So I because I was really interested in it, but I completely forgot Because you can't help but feel bad for someone who likes a film like that. You know, you're like, oh Yeah, what happened? What's wrong with you? That was a shockingly bad film It was it really was actually shockingly bad I don't think I've ever hated a movie more It's definitely up there It's just was not a pleasant experience. Yeah, it's like it's really not the point of why we make films Like this you you you fucking up the whole fucking thing to beg for clarity Not like in terms of plot or story or characters, but like clarity clarity As in the definition of the objects on the screen. Yeah Wives are so blurry It is obnoxious It is it hurts to watch You have every once in a while I would look away from the screen to the real world just to be like, ah, yes Things are defined objects exist in real space and I can touch them And I know where one object begins and one ends and it's I also miss the world of clarity when you watch a movie like that But also his writing is really bad too. Just making sure we you know mention that Oh, yeah, the characters are shit. The writing is shit. The world buildings. It's all terrible. There's nothing good about it If our movies army the dead coming to you live one day Hopefully soon because yeah, we did do any fat movies on that. I don't know about soon probably not soon but eventually Hey, oh, right the other half of that was always Hey chads, thanks for your work. Have you guys seen shing godzilla? What do you guys think? No, I think I saw it really a long time ago and I've forgotten I think I said something about it on efap when I saw it, but I have now Memory hold it. It's gone So if you can find that somewhere that's what I thought about it Um Yeah, it'd be cool to have chris on Elon I'm just there's a trailer another trailer for metro dread. It looks kind of really awesome Probably forwards it. Well, then why don't you go buy it for me? Hmm? It's not out yet It's a couple any excuse It's looking neat There's like a story and there's cut scenes and like intrigue and And new power-ups. Wow looks looks really cool looks looks like a big old new Classic samus or our own adventure The moss. I think you'll find the name is No, I think you'll find the name is metroid god Well, how come it's tapas, but it's samus tap tap samus samus Tapas. Is it tapas or tapas? To pass. Well, I mean her name is samus What is that is the name? No, it's samus Lormus have you asked every how do you know? Yeah, have you said I can't ask fixed characters. Oh, okay with that attitude Why don't you want to oh you could do one of those role plays that that one chat was talking about Yeah, I'll role play is uh samus. Uh, yes, my name is samus Simone I have to shoot aliens pew pew That was easy Yeah Um, brana's cinderella is definitely the best disney live action not perfect, but so much better than the rest would love to see an efat movies on it I don't want to watch it. I don't really want to watch it, but I am sure I wouldn't be surprised. It's the best one It's that's it seems like it's the most conventional. There's less to get wrong That's really pretty straightforward. Yeah I'm sure cinderella's it's not one that like I feel like that's just an Cinderella is not one of the ones that people just look back on super fondly, you know like it's cinderella But it's not like beauty and the beast or like snow white Orange because it's so significant like snow white. It's what it seems like it's one of the older ones Before you got that sort of new age and sleeping beauty was kind of in that camp as well Like it's not yeah I mean they're good movies though. Like they're really great animation I feel like if we rewatched them, they'd be a certain charm to them that like the same way that 101 Dalmatians. It's just like, ah, it's nice Yeah, gotta love them That was fun. It's rewatching that movie. Like you know that movie is charming This is the Dalmatians. You've got movies that got age restricted Really? I don't know That's how evil that's how fucking evil cruella is. Yeah. Yeah What other explanation is there? Yeah kids can't see this Do any of you guys know why the scenes of Anakin killing the young ones was cut? From what I've heard they were executed very well Nice one Hello to you all and a belated congratulations on 150 mohler I'm curious about your opinion on mike flanagan's horror films. Personally. I think hush is the strongest I over the ones I've seen I don't think they're as strong as the haunting films um Yeah, to be fair, uh, because I watched hush with you right now when you came over Uh, yeah Let me check which one that is again I was a little bit disappointed with that one. I don't think he did that well with the premise. Oh, yeah Yeah, we watched that one. We watched that one like it's you, you know All it's scary and stuff. I just uh I don't know like this The bad guy gives a lot of gaps to the the victim in order to keep that story going Um, and I just I don't know it didn't come across is too great to me Maybe on a rewatch I would like it more, but I just um, I just think it's you know another example gerald's game um, I do like it But like probably one of the grossest scenes I've ever seen in a movie. Yeah, it's up there. That one is fucking cringe inducing Yeah, it's like oh Not for the squeamish No Um, but yeah, I I'm looking forward to midnight mass though. I'm hoping that's gonna be good. Oh, yeah, that's coming out right, right? Remind me was it a movie or show again? Yes It's not gonna be too long before it's out. I think it's doing the october release It's cool season spooky season Uh, oh that means I I'm I'm gonna be playing uh Uh thingy soon, uh that dark dark scent. Oh my god. I'll wait for you to solve the goo problem Maybe I'll get stuck and we could get lost in a wine cellar again I think I promised the super chat that I play machine for pigs this year. So I guess I'll be doing that It probably won't be miserable. No, I I think I'll have fun I'll just be pointing out like how I just don't think it's it's as good Meanwhile, it'll be fucking leagues ahead of rebirth. So You know, it's got that going for it You can tell who people who watch my stream and mainly someone wrote amnesia rebirth doxels 2 Um, but yes, thank you. Uh, what inspired the design of your avatars I really like my doctors All right Mine was a friend came up with some ideas and I like the look of the gas mask all thing combo I thought it was cool and then fan art has turned into this and I I think it's neat I really don't have much more of a meaningful in-depth sort of approach than that Well, mine is based on a crying pay-pay so I'll start with it with the whole leave me beefing. Yeah, some old law for the metals channel Yeah, then I made made made like got like a crying pay-pay Drew over it with a beard and stuff Uh, and yeah, then fan art and stuff happened and that was this one Just cool For me, I really I really like dogs. I think she bees are really meanie and cute and approachable and they're very likable It's really enjoyed. Uh, I just enjoyed their The quality in that regard and that was that I didn't put really that much thought into it I've always liked anthropomorphic animals as characters and stuff. I thought it'd be kind of fun There you go I'm not sure why Green I think the only reason it was green was because like when I first started the channel I just had for any green text So I just stuck with it. That's the only reason there's no purposeful meaning behind it at all It's entirely arbitrary. It could have been blue could have been red But it wasn't and then marvels. What if springy was blue? I don't know What do you think things would be just be worse if he was blue? Is that what you're saying? Yes Feels weird to me blue Blue was blue at one point and now he's gone. Okay, it's bad Blue just Even though blue is probably actually like my preferred color Um Freeform text based rp is pretty fun, but you need to find some cool people to do it with Have you ever done that or roleplayed as characters from a canon property? I've not done one Yeah, I've played a couple games of what I thought was dnd. I'm not sure if it was but Never roleplayed as like an existing character or whatever of you rags I I roleplayed as my oc and I smashed But with my massive cock Okay No, I don't though It's okay. I'm probably good at it like I like I've done dnd and pathfinder and I think I'm pretty good at it And I enjoy it and I and I do like to do that So yeah, in that sense, I have indeed I really have enjoyed that. Hmm. I like it and efap. I think helps That sort of thing is that right? Beautiful Any advice for writing fan fiction I always feel like I'm screwing up the source characters I would say don't and just write your own original stories That tends to be what I would suggest This is the interesting thing, right? Like They get inspired and they want to do it because they enjoy the property But then at that point you're just like now that you've gotten the inspiration just make your own thing go Yeah, I I feel like I don't I guess it's kind of interesting because it's like well fan art. It's like, yeah I would encourage people to do that. I think you can like I think you can get a lot out of that You can learn how to emulate styles and things like that um I guess as well. There's the element of like fan art just tends to get around more than original stuff So I guess if there's an idea of recognition recognition, but fan art doesn't tend to get I don't think it has the same negative connotations as fan fiction um No, it doesn't It definitely doesn't fan art's really cool. But like fan fiction is just I would just say if you're going to be spending So much time writing fan fiction that like you're doing drafts and revisions and plot outlines Probably be better served like just creating your own thing I'm wondering if you wanted to get good at writing right in terms of how do I describe scenes? How do I learn the format? How do I structure dialogue? Stuff like that Would would it be good to do a fan fiction where you don't have to worry about the world building stuff Where you can just sort of focus on more writing related things I guess there's the element of you don't have to you don't have to do a lot of the The original work of creating these things you are continuing these things. You've got a template to work from but Is that going to help you get good at the fundamental craft of like writing when it comes to Eventually when you want to do your own original thing, I guess would be I guess you could but like I always feel like in this instance I just say you probably be better off just like creating your own thing Eventually sure, but I think I would Maybe Yeah, it definitely the cringe element sure but if you really are if you don't know how to write if you haven't read a lot yourself and you don't know how to Just do basic descriptions of environments. What do I what do I write? What do I lead to the imagination? How much detail do I put in my description of the surroundings? What do I focus on? And that sense it might be well, I'm going to write this scene from a film, but I'm just going to do it differently With the characters in the setting So how would I describe it? It's like how would I describe this scene in book form to somebody? What is the best way to use text to get that information across and I don't have to worry about establishing A world building or anything like that and thinking in my head about what a scene needs to be or the world I'm trying to create. I'm trying to get an idea across which is probably the fundamental I suppose of storytelling, but I guess it is the fundamental It's a question of will you benefit more from doing that rather than actually having to deal with all of those things I mean because again, you can always just like could you not achieve the same thing? I guess by just um Starting writing a story that is set in a regular world where you don't have to deal with world building It's two people in a room talking to each other But that's what I'm saying if you want to focus on character You can be like two people in a room talking to each other It feels like we're putting a lot more elements in by saying what's in harry potter But it's two so all the world buildings done. So you just got to focus on characters It's like focus on characters by having two people in a room talking to each other Or just the easy thing of like get a group of characters put them in a situation any situation Don't think about world building and just think about how would these characters interact with each other Like I I guess I would say that the ultimate thing is like I wouldn't I would discourage doing fan fiction in favor of writing your own stuff, but um It doesn't hurt. I guess as well and also to address the point. This is not the adaptation thing You can do this. I guess I would just say it probably I feel like there are many reasons why you would benefit from doing it as an original thing that you've done yourself You can definitely do it fan fiction I think the most important thing is if that's what it takes to get your butt in the seat and actually writing Then that's better than not ever doing it. If that's just how you want to start and yeah If that if this what's gets you if this is what gets you in the door to so to speak And then you do a couple of these and you're like But I would change this and I'd change this and I'd change this and then it starts to become its own thing entirely And that gets you to do that then I think it's a pretty good place to start I suppose there's a lot of people write like crap because they just don't know how to write That would be the preface then fan fiction needs to become fiction at some point. Oh, yeah, definitely. Absolutely. Yeah But I think it's a good place to get people to start I think a better place to start is original. I will say I think that I I think that um I think that you'll get benefit a lot more from learning the process of starting from scratch um Maybe it is just me thinking about the cringe elements of like fan fiction But that might just be an element of yeah when a lot of people start they're not very good at it Like it's just the natural process of getting good at any creative enterprise. You start off and you start Can you just keep practicing to get better? Um, obviously uh, something glib suggests which is possible You could complete a fan fiction then just switch around all the names and maybe like 50 shades gray, right? That was that was twilight fan. She just changed the names Imagine making twilight fan fiction Yeah, but I mean It's like one of my successful books of all time somehow So guess it worked out okay I mean we'll judge it whether or not it was successful And of course the element of fan fiction the world that gets here is fan fiction is legally complicated um You would you would It would be monetizing that would yeah, that's that's when you started here either Just like role-playing games are probably a good way to learn how to I would say yeah I don't know enough about like real life role-playing. This is my character short idea of a backstory How does my character respond to the events that happen around him? How does he get along with other people? um I think that would be a really good place to start actually And especially if you move into DMing and you kind of are more responsible for the world building And the factions and characters that you know your your players might start to interact with and meet and crafting stories and kind of thinking on the fly about well if my characters do this then How does my world respond to that? What what are the consequences of? You know if my characters decide to just decide with this person or side with this person Yeah, that sounds like it would be a helpful Way to go short stories as well. Good way to And I guess just read more that'll help. Yes read more One of the best ways to learn how to write is to read you soak it up I think Stephen King said something along the lines of if you're not writing and reading for 46 hours a day You're never gonna see well. What does he ever done? Other than write like 50 books Yeah, other than check tingles written 50 books. Yeah, but then again, he's also master class. So That's true wouldn't accept anything otherwise Uh, I think it's hard for prequel fans to separate the post content media from the actual films that and the glorious memes That doesn't mean they can't say the films a shit. You can do it. I believe in them. Um But the prequel era media. Yeah, we had lots of great stuff And it was uh, it was an era that was a lot more fun than the sequel era. I think already It's just yeah, there was Yeah, we weren't doing these ridiculous thematic deconstructions of star wars and lucas skywalker was actually fucking shit None of that nonsense Many of you guys know why the scenes. Oh wait, um I think I read them back to front. So remember when someone asked molla to read the lyrics to face fisted And then rags did because he's a chad. Can we do that with birthday death day, please? birthday death day I have no idea what it is. I guess you have to first off you have to refuse to read it and then I have to say All right, I guess I'll do it. All right. I refuse to read whatever that is All right, I will do that in a little bit. I will do that in just a moment. Once this once this game's over Yeah, I will I will look up the birthday death day thing Birthday death day Hi rags. Hi long man. Hi fringle. Hi mootle Hi there Uh, I just want to thank each of you masses to give me inspiration to write the light novel I've been uploading to what pad and web novel for the past couple of months. It's already gotten a few Uh, six point k 6.6 k reads nice. Oh, that's great. That's really good. Cool. I have no idea how any of that works But yeah, sounds cool I think that's a bunch that sounds like a lot. How does it how does it tell when someone's read it? This is someone going on the page, you know, I just clicked on it All right, nevertheless Uh, missed the second half of my first super chat about my advocate. I shall go back my bad I will read another one out while I search for that one. Um See smaller has iron on both sides of the belt instead of iron on one and coal on the other So he has to fuel the furnace by hand re I'll I'll figure it out. Don't worry. I'm very inefficient right now And that's all it's about getting more efficient Thoughts on belated medias. What if prequel vids? Um, I don't know if you guys have seen those ones have you I don't think I have no I think he rewrites them um I'm not sure if I've seen them. I haven't seen them in bloody ages Um Oh, yeah, so the second half of the it was the Aquaman question. I missed it. Um Uh, also my advocate's new parody video is fun. Have you seen it yet? Best wishes I think my advocate made a video where he praises the room as a video essayist Looks about as themes. I haven't seen that one yet Video I can you can send to video essayist to be like, yeah, it's easy what you do you could do it with everything Um, I also watched his video responding to someone who responded to his video on the flash My advocate is very dry. It's very fun I didn't see those on my timeline thing Kind of weird. I'm not a true fan It's a youtube thing that just happens sometimes I guess No, sure blame it on youtube I'm watching you Mel. I'm watching you Oh, wait, where are you? You want a beer or something right here? Yes staring at you Um I forgot to ask this as well. Did you see the bird person episode of rick and morty this season has been rough But it felt like that episode was good I haven't watched any episodes since like the the go-go power rangers weasel thing Yeah, that's what I watched too. What happens is jay says guys, when are we gonna watch the rest? Then we go. Yeah at some point Now that's it It's very pressing. Yeah, it's more it's become a meta thing now. I've just you realize what we're saying and how it turns out It's like man, they killed it damn But we'll probably see them at some point Now um watch arnie's japanese commercials. They're not copyrighted also Which content creator you guys watch or listen to on your free time I've seen some of the arnie's red letter media. It's probably my number one Yeah, which uh, there's a bunch too yms. I watch a bunch of Um, I mean I watch a lot of wrestling content So that's that's that Uh, I've forgotten weapons and in range tv. Ahoy. Um, I watch matt dale honey. Sometimes fire department protocols mctoon Or sorry mctoon Gamer's nexus I like armchair historian or armchair history. That's Friendly geordies um dankula Carl yobst joe Try to keep up with what's going on man It's amusing right because I was just doing that thing that like you shouldn't do fan fiction a fox in space Stop fox fan fiction animated series. Try to keep up with that. It's really really great I mean, but that thing is so good. It didn't have to be star fox Like it. No, I could have been it. Well, it could have been its own. It's it's incredibly impressive for a one man Production. Um, I'm pretty sure after he's done with it. He's gonna make an original thing Incredibly excited to see what that will be Um immensely talented That he is Have you heard of a local 58? It had a very refreshing and unusual style of horror storytelling. I think you'd like it more I have not heard of it now. At least I don't think I have either I don't say I know what that is Get me some of these playing the losses of frustrating dude Don't do it man. Let's just don't do it. Like flash ye Oy moly, oy moly Is that even your real name? If buffy's so good, why don't you marry it? It's because you're gay. Got them Love you and buffy. Oh Yeah, they don't let you marry tv shows yet We'll get there. Oh, it's the birthday death day lyrics. All right. All right. Here we go. Oh, there's the death clock song. Okay Here are the here are the lyrics For birthday death day D. E. T. H. D. A. Y. Right Uh-huh many years ago today Something grew inside of your mother that thing was you You you you you you Did she scream? Did she cry? Only those that are born are the ones that get to die One more year closer to dying rotting organs ripping grinding biological discordance birthday equals self-abhorrence Years keep passing aging always mutate into vapid slugs Doctor gives a new prescription bullet in a fucking gun One more year closer to dying Plastic surgeons fuel the lying You forget why you came in here your mind rots with every new year RSVP please for the death of thee You have little time and you're running out of life Happy birthday You're gonna die Now you're old and full of hatred Take a pill to masturbated Children point to you and scream because they will become that thing One more year of further suffering There's no point of fucking bluffing Open up your death day present It's a box of fucking nothing RSVP please for the death of thee You have little time and you're running out of life Happy birthday. You're gonna die Die die death day birthday death day die die death day birthday death day RSVP please for the death of thee You'll have little time and you're running out of life Happy birthday. You're gonna die You're running out of life That's uh That's a metal ock song. All right. Yeah, that's uh, that's them I even remember the the beginning that you did where it's just nice an explosion Just it's like a pause and he goes that that person's you or something like that Metal oclips was good fun. I recommend from memory I enjoy watching the clips on youtube sometime One of the best reoccurring jokes was Uh, they have a specialist to explain Something to like the generals in the episode and mark hamill voiced the guy who was introducing them And from what I was told from a friend don't know if it's true The writers kept trying to write names for the scientists that mark hamill would struggle to Say and just to like make him laugh and stuff And I used to know a lot of the names, but they would just be Fucking absurd name. I wonder if I can get them Gotta be help online It's a really weird show. Um It is a very strange show But believe it or not not nearly one of the strangest shows that have been on uh adult swim, but it's an odd one So yeah, there's a list here There's no one's like dr gibbets and then you got amon scar garrack frederick charvin donald gorthian a mama lithe chesterfield ronald von momnam nullberg so stupid dr natasha nesians kidovich vin senjo d l m m a la conningston the third The stupid fucking names Horace marbling blatt wimple stein jr Yeah, I think as it went on they just kept making them stupid or stupid commander vernym chunzpinkton Richard rideholder and walla warp Yeah, and so barcala just had to pronounce these fucking names. It was always hilarious Um, you'd think time traveling to stop mysterio from revealing peter's identity is a better move than memory spell But mc sucks at time traveling because I wouldn't do it Remember changing the past doesn't change the future recordings of fucking smart hulk, which is hilarious. That's what he's called Professor hulk Have respect, please. Wow technically. He's called smart hulk. That's what he's credited as Wow Seems like you just don't agree that he's very smart. That's all You're just jealous of his smarts and you want them all for yourself. Mm-hmm He's got a big brain, but I don't know if something's not working like jimmy newtron. Yeah I feel like smart hulk's brain is probably bigger than jimmy newt I don't know jimmy newtron's got a pretty big brain He has he has his brain is so big that at the end of every episode. He has a brain blast. Yeah So kind of go on there, huh? silence Now i'm just thinking like jimmy newtron. That is like old what we're talking about media properties Why I think it's one of those things like oh, yeah, that was like 3d animated in the like late 90s early 2000s on television The early 3d animation where you look back and you're like, oh Oh, god. Yeah, hopefully the um the novelty was enough to carry you forward. I guess No, wait, what is that? Have a look see I'm so embarrassed we have a long layover So I roasted a chicken for the airport Okay At security they took my bag the dude says my man what he got in here and he pulls my shit out And yells a whole chicken and everyone in the line started laughing at me, especially the bad You should know you can't put a chicken in your bag. You should you should know come on That's why it pulls with that. I was like it's hilarious though. You need a chicken. Okay whole chicken Magic being that security guy is like, okay Whole ass chicken that's a story. He's gonna tell for a while. I would tell everyone this guy's got a fucking chicken How embarrassing I was using google chrome on my phone the other day and against the white background I noticed I have an efap logo burned into the bottom right corner of the screen. I watch you guys too much I rags Hi, and don't worry. Those will go those will go away. So just uh, don't don't panic but those do go away It means you're watching us the right amount I'd say Correct. You should just get a dedicated efap mod. Well, it sounds like you have a dedicated efap Uh, hey muller and co currently enjoying an uber modded lefadette too Was wondering if you all thought prequels could be good if done a la game of thrones also high rags Hi there So you must not be referring to the latest game of thrones content to arrive at our doors. Um Maybe they're talking about like maybe the prequels would be good if they were done in a tv show format Is that where they're going with that? No Maybe I mean if you wanted to combine the events of the prequels with the clone wars potentially Then that would have been something you could have done straighten it all out Correct it all up a bit because this We hear from theo that the clone wars has some uber cringe in there too Yeah, I'm at the event more than the show Yes, can't wait for machine for pig stream. It's a pretty decent game really enjoyed it not as much as the dog Descent obviously, but still pretty damn good. I don't know about that. I don't know if I want to go laugh But pretty damn good I never finished a machine for pigs I just was I just I don't know. I guess I just got I don't know The uh, there's a speech at the end. That was pretty good. Say that. Yeah, that's what I hear, but um Fanfiction tends to get a lot of comment and feedback very quickly through which can help an aspiring writer figure out what they are or aren't doing I suppose that's a benefit. You'll have people who might be more interested in checking your stuff out because Based on a popular ip rather than your original thing. Yeah Is that what I get right? Hello sourcing behind the scenes clips from Iron Man 1 crazy how much effort went into making the real suits Remember when the mcu movies were good so Those sorts of things on their own shouldn't be signified as whether or not something will be good But it's certainly a signifier that they've got some passion in there Yeah me And um, yeah the real suits stuff like when they lost the real suits You feel like you've lost something something's gone And uh, you know, it's it's not like CGI suits can't work. It's just I don't know Something something the clunk isn't as there anymore in a good way Um, oh god, they're absolutely rebooting Saints Row and they made the gangsters look like hipsters. I've heard about this I'm gonna make it less edgy. It's like, huh? Yeah, Saints Row is always edgy gta, but now it I guess not Wow Edgy, yeah, I think we did talk about it. They said like now we're committing it's like well Yeah, I mean, I imagine you can't change that much six months away from the game coming out But like, why would you do this seems like nobody's happy Um It looks it seems like everybody wanted it to be more like Saints Row who seems to be the one that everybody like Yeah, Saints Row 2 is a favorite It does look like really like tips to kind of thing. Yeah Is such a shame Or is it Maybe it'll be really good and everyone's just being really mean imagine it is. Yeah, really good But that's be replying to people on twitter. Oh boy. Let me see if I can find some That doesn't bode well No, it's it doesn't it seems to never like yield good results Hmm After a machine for pigs, would you stream Bioshock infinite moller? We're not If I do bioshock 2 which I might eventually do I know people gonna want me to do infinite and it's like oh The only thing about doing that that I'd find tempting is I can just play it and criticize it Look how bad this is boom I could practically solve world hunger at that point. I'll be so powerful I don't make me play it again. I would never do that Liar Never ever ever. I'll make you play ds2 again though. That'll be funny Pick up stir Just saw that from an article by inside the magic that disney's reportedly cancelling the mandalorian after season three thoughts Also high metal. I don't I doubt that but I mean, um, if they're gonna split off all of their fucking cameos into their own shows I guess they've realized that the mandalorian doesn't have anything in it. Maybe it's just like maybe we should just ditch this one I'm amused by the idea, but I wouldn't expect them to ditch mandalorian It's very popular badly I'm trying to find cringe tweets, but It's a whole bunch of these like it's it's kind of like corporate cringe You know like responding to things like oh, yeah, it's gonna be real cool this game that we're making. It's gonna be super cool Um, well, I'm sure it is. Is there any reason to think otherwise? I don't I don't know I was so so like somebody was Just saying like oh, it's not like purple the logo is not purple because like that's the color of the series And then they said well, you don't start out as sage. You got to build to that it's like What I don't why would you even respond to that like what I don't It feels like you're not really achieving anything here at all. It seems a little unnecessary Oh boy, um So somebody said like um I do like the old characters will they be in there and then um Then somebody said and then they responded. Oh like it's a brand new story in a brand new world So it's like a total reboot not the same universe And then they said somebody said you could sum that up with one word. No, and they said it seemed rude. It's like oh, man I'm like Kind of cringed here. It seems so unnecessary to respond to a lot of these things Yeah Oh, yeah, somebody said deleted and restart and then they Responded with a meme that is simon cow shaking his head saying it's a no from me um Yeah Stop fellow kids thing Pretty much It's kind of funny right because like yeah It's like this edgy thing and now it's like it's sort of almost corporate thing This is what happens if you tell like monk to be edgy. This is what you get Some people don't know what you're writing ranks. Okay, so oh the show. Yeah, I know because I'm cultured, but some people wouldn't Man, man, it's a jungle out there So here's here's an interesting one somebody said normally reboot share something with the original games Why make it a reboot when it's nothing like saint's row makes no sense. Just call it something else They did it just to hype up clingy fans and make more money They're fooling people into thinking it's saint's row poopy face emoji and bin And then they responded doing a reboot like no one has ever done a reboot before pretty saint's row If you ask us with a thinking face with the emoji The handle I like how all of the questions are like is this related to the original games I like it's like We're gonna deconstruct the old games you like and we're gonna take a shit on all the things that you liked It is one of those moments of like so What were you expecting who were you appealing when you say saint's row everyone? It's like were you surprised when saint's row fans turned up? It is an interesting one. So They had to tweet out. Yeah, you create your character and then somebody said why wasn't that in like the trailer and they said It's a cinematic CGI trailer. We have never previously needed to showcase customization in our announcement trailers It's like well If this many people are saying wait, can I still custom? I mean here's something worth thinking about you've said that this game is very different to the original Is it not unreasonable for people to not know whether they can customize their character anymore? Yeah, you get a brand new character brand new world brand new mechanics Or seemingly like trying to make it really different. Is it not reasonable that people might be like wait? Can I still customize my dude? Oh man, this uh, why are they just spawning so many people? Definitely. I hate someone to do it. Maybe in current year. They just pay someone. Oh, no Oh Yes, okay answer these people So apparently there was a deleted This tweet is from an account that no longer exists and the response was you played it then upside down smiley face It's like ah, so somebody was saying that they didn't like what it looked like It's the old meme. Have you played it? Oh, man, this is like I don't know. This feels like a really bad marketing strategy. I would say Oh, what do you know fringy? Have you ever marketed a strategy before? You ever made a saint's row game in 2021? I don't think so. Yeah So that's all good news then Excited for saint's rows coming back with a vengeance Yeah I would prefer a good star wars fanfiction than a me a modern lucas film star wars story at this point Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, all I was talking about was what I thought you might benefit from from writing standpoint. I guess that was all There are four tennis balls on the cliff if you shove them all up your ass the sequel trilogy will be great Will you do it? No Tennis balls four of them. Nah Oh No, no disney made their bed fucking lying it I don't want to go. I don't want to undo all that stuff I think there's a lot of value we can get from making fun of plus we would not have met Yeah, maybe not very likely that we would not have met if the the last jet I never happened Because imagine it's like I wouldn't have met you because a game of thrones You'd be like what the fuck is that new shit? No and then Marvel rags, you know, you just you just went that into marvel a little way. Yeah, so I wasn't really no There you go never would have met in fact Maybe we'd even have been arch nemesis to seize Because rags ended up loving the new game of thrones. You just yeah, maybe I love the themes. Yeah, right? Don't you do that for fun? No Not for tennis balls They're like all gritty on the outside Yeah, I don't I don't think that's gonna be pleasant. Yeah It's probably someone out there was like, no, that's just my thing and you're like, okay. Well Okay, weirdo. Yeah Why don't you go have your fun? Nate nobody's stopping you Carl Jobst new video had a raid sponsorship But he prefaced by saying just like billy mitchell is amazing. So is raid Obviously being sarcastic I mean, they'll do anything they can I guess to try and signal to the audience that please don't actually buy this bullshit That would be a bad move. I just I just want to take their money Well, you're gonna put food on the table, I'd say Yeah, it's either this or I die Guess I'll die. I wanted to do die The hero has on Yes, I wanted to do die. It's like, okay, calm down Son you're saying weird things again So what are you dumbos opinions on people doing sarcastic sponsorships like call an historian also play ddlc. You'll like it hashtag ad Um, I don't know why they would get uh off the hook Where other people don't yeah Seems kind of weird as a system. It's like, don't worry. I was joking. It's like, oh Okay, but you still got paid though Yeah, you did And the ad is probably still going to be effective on some level Totally Uh, like otherwise they wouldn't Yeah, they wouldn't bother if it wasn't wicked now Rags bible fact of the day also high and then emojis that I think are all of us. Hello Bible fact of the day or bible verse. I certainly mean bible verse of the day Fact about the bible for the day Let me see bible verse that I'm gonna go to where I always go which is verse of the day dot freaking calm Uh, it is romans chapter 8 verse 28 And we know that in all things god works for the good of those who love him who have been called according to his purpose There they go, they have a thoughts on today's verse and old prayer there and Today's verse illustrated. No, it's just a meme It's like see right here. Here's what it says. Here's what it says, okay And this is what the uh, this is there what about fucking boomers is what did today's verse illustrated He's like no, let's just that's not no. I was illustrating. You just First thing that it's not illustrated Secondly, this has nothing to really do with You could put that on any verse Okay This is two people holding hands. Yeah Uh, oh, mary, uh, how uh, hoose nelson Said this was one of my favorite verses in olive scripture and I quote it to myself often Especially of all that's going on in our world right now. There was so much fear among us. She said among us Among us systemic fear of terrorism fear of jobs, etc Is god's children we need to keep verses like this close to our hearts and repeat them to ourselves frequently I don't know that how these things will work out, but I trust that they will for god's word says so Oh my god, it keeps going One two three. There's three more fucking paragraphs of this bitch talking. She's got opinions. She has got opinions I think it's cute that she's got opinions Mary jeez God damn it. Mary shut the fuck up I I'm gonna fuck down, mary springy. Oh King james version Well, I guess since we're here. Let me Oh, I know this one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I know what this one's yet there She lusted after her lovers whose genitals were like those of donkeys Oh And whose emission was like that of horses. Oh my god I that's a good one. I do remember that one. That is a good one or I don't think that never was a one that we had to read in church. Yeah, that was never on the Yeah, I never one that was so educational Can we can we beat the verse with the penis in it? I'll listen. I don't know. Don't tell me their emission was like that of horses. I'll be the judge of that. Let's see it. Come on Let's go. It seems like it needs his adoration. You know, we don't like them in this house Um, Fringy, you do realize that most writing shows is essentially fan fiction. There may be one writer who creates it But any assistant writers for that episode of writing fan fiction? I What what point do you think that you're making? I'm not I'm not sure about that. That honestly feels like downright uncharitable Yeah, like it's almost like they're trying to say that there's no real draw difference between The average person writing in their house about a property they like This is someone working on an ip as a result of contracts and Obligations to create a tv show. It's like they're doing fan fictions. What's the difference like? What's the difference? There's gonna be a lot of difference What even makes it fan fiction at this point is like it's gonna be ip's and writes. Yes It absolutely has to be like the company decides what's canonical like as much as we don't like it the sequel trilogy is canon true Like it's not fan fiction Like fan fiction as whether or not it's good or bad is a totally different conversation Like if you want to write fan fiction, that's that's totally fine All I was saying was that I personally feel like there are a lot of benefits that come from working on an original project The And that obviously long term like even if you are writing fan fiction if you want to do it professionally like at some point Transition into creating your own stuff Uh moeller and friends thoughts on what if series it's terrible Man, I don't like it. It's really bad. Yeah, really painful. Um, sad that that's where we're at. I guess The first and second were awful later on. There's even more multiverse. What ifs of these characters? We've seen I think all of us seen the first two. I don't know if any of us seen the third one now I might watch three and four together if I have any fucking reason to I don't know that I will Uh, we shall see Death clock is such a great fucking rat Um, yeah, that's the band in metallogalypse and they're a real band IRL, right? Death clock Where's my splayer? There she is And then I need the one that goes underneath. Oh, I'm just such a good factory person No, what? No, why why must you be so mean? Because it's bad Well, it's thank you. It is big stank. Stanky bad big stank Who'd win in a fight splots is up there for my least favorite words. What is what stank? Oh What about Tony stank? Tony stank. I don't like it. Oh, at least there's a Tony at the front to soften the blow but Really don't like stank Um, well, I'm sorry I'm sorry I didn't mean to upset my stank I didn't mean to do it Uh Who would in a fight splat or shatting onion? Splat has many forms. Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. That's like soldier splat and Muscle splats and splat splats Oh, that's a thing. There's a little mini game that got made about shatting onion We'll have to show that on a e-fap meme really easy. Yeah, there is it's very funny I saw I saw that one fan out someone made of the sharding onion. That was really nice You might say it's gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous all right Uh, but yeah, I don't I wouldn't want to call who's gonna win out of them But it does seem that splat is much more of a mythical being capable of like godlike properties while the sharding onion Shards, um, I'm sure it's really well though. It does but doesn't it kill him canonically? um goes into space He explodes in the original animation. Oh no, well, he hits the barrier of the universe So he's strong, but he can't outmatch the barrier of the universe And you know, what does that mean? What does that say about him? I don't know Um Everything from ruckus is absolute gold. I remember what is ruckus Is that rucka rucka ali or something? Is ruckus from metal alkylps? I don't know uncle ruck. Is it uncle ruckus? Maybe Maybe Watch uncle ruckus's origin. It's only like a minute and it's fucking hilarious I'm like lost on this. What's uncle ruckus again? I don't know from boondocks Oh, yeah, I haven't seen boondocks I watched a little bit of boondocks Why didn't you watch a little bit more male? Hmm? Sorry, I wasn't Hey Too late already said it Chopdengas might as to be said cannot be unsaid. Mm-hmm I should probably make more of these things And I have a lot of coal I feel like a minor Do you want to shovel it in your coal hole? I'll do it Thank you rags metal alkylps was one of the greatest shows ever binge the first two seasons and in the last two nights everyone watch it Oh, wow There's a lot of clips on youtube the qualities crap, but They um, I think they tried to get like a like a one more season or one more movie to sort of close it out But I don't swim was like nah not happening. Yeah That must suck now. I might be making this up But from what I remember the fans were very passionately trying to get it back online and adult swim did a thing with a streamed emails To them requesting that it come back being printed out and then fed into a shredder Wow I can't remember like someone in chat. I didn't make that all of that up I know that comes from somewhere so if you can help me out But like as as pissing off fans go That's probably gonna be up here. Yeah You're correct lol Happening now actually um Yeah, I guess that did happen. Yeah Venture bro. This is amazing and well worth a watch Fair enough. I haven't heard good things. Oh you Yeah, virtue bros is good stuff One of my favorite specialists names was tochter torman blind mik midi didi didi and then And of course dr foxo the rock and roll clown he does calk came. Oh, yes um according to endgame zone time travel rules bringing the stones back shouldn't erase the alternate branches created Yeah Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, it's a disaster. Don't So don't worry about it All right now I want one of you to sing the Jimmy Neutron theme song. I don't remember it Let's see was it it was take to the stars by candy bars He's a kid with a knack for adventure a super powered mine a mechanical canine bark bark Rescues the day from sheer destruction This is the theme song of Jimmy Neutron I think that's how it goes It's been many it's been years and then he says gotta blast and then the episode begins But I haven't seen that in years, so I Think that's it intriguing Everything from ruckus is absolute gold There you go, that's what makes more sense now this this can't be it says I'm 102% African with a 2% margin of error Why why white Jesus? Why what is this 102% African? For mayor for Sacho Bob 100% and for Mara Quimby 1% I do remind you there is a 1% margin of error Oh Yeah, and then the ad they even you know Mara Quimby even let out a man's sideshow bomb Like twice convicted of attempted murder, but can you trust a man like Joe Quimby? Yeah, that's just like a great comedy. He let out such a ball aside your mom What I was a kid I didn't quite get it But when he was in court and he just put down all of his documents for how Election fraud like each one of working back you really an odd and it's got like his name printed on the front I Deride your truth handling abilities And I remember this was another joke. I didn't get it as well, but just like the Republican headquarters Just being a fucking Transylvanian I Yeah, they had that joke in the elephant episode they go through both the Democratic and Republican parties I think the Democratic one is we don't know how to solve anything in the Republican one is just we're evil Beside shove bumper is like you can't keep the Democrats out of the White House forever And when they get in I'm back on the streets with all my criminal buddies There's a thing the Simpsons well had plenty of fucking political commentary Yeah, sounds political commentary. I think it was just that you'd be young enough that you wouldn't necessarily understand it You sort of laugh with it Welcome to Fox News your source for evil And it's like for the Republicans like such a bomb and have like the American flag waving in the background and for the Democrats This guy I have a name. Yes, I'm sure you do comrade I know I watched a lot of it as a kid, but I don't remember fuck all about it I wonder if Jay Michael Strasinski might be getting Dr. Who there'll be something I'd watch Um Yeah, cuz he's the guy who made JMS. He's the one behind Babylon 5 And he has a lot of respect from a lot of people Though he's also the guy that apparently cuz I didn't really know this He's the one who wrote like the infamously worst Spider-Man story The one where it's Dr. Strange one day like I think there's two right one more days one of them There's another one There's another one that's really bad. I can't remember which one he wrote, but he apparently wrote one of them or both The people like remind each other of that before being like, yeah, let's get it. It's just like But I mean yes, I'm gonna be one more day Loan saga Perious Spider-Man Which is the one where like basically Doc arc gets put in Spider-Man's body And then he becomes Spider-Man and spider real Spider-Man dies. So it's like a Doc arc Spider-Man Man, that's a superior Spider-Man. I think Sounds like a really weird storyline, but all right. It does sound like a very strange storyline. Yeah Yeah, they're superior Spider-Man. All right, but yeah it is People just remind of that but like I'm sure he's gonna be way better than Chris Chibnall Like if you were to be put in there But I think the only thing people are going off is the fact that he tweeted himself at BBC like hey I'll take over Doctor Who if you want and I don't think that's gonna be enough to I mean, for all we know, you know for all we know someone said some part of BBC like hey He this guy said this and they'd be like, oh, who is this guy? Oh, well, I mean, okay, maybe I don't know For all we know that's how flimsy it is right now So I've just seen a tweet it is James Corden Camilla Cabello Billy Porter and Idina Menzel stopped traffic in LA for a flash mob With the cover of Jennifer Lopez's Let's Get Loud to promote the Cinderella movie What I think I saw that my Fuck out of the road you piece of shit Yeah, the tweet has 1,300 retweets 14,000 likes 23,000 points. I like how points we sit now your indication of like There's never the two is never well loved if it's well quote tweeted No, that doesn't seem to happen Man, that's like god damn just getting in the middle of the road to promote a movie Yeah, I thought you were gonna say it's some kind of weird thing about I don't know like protests or something I was really okay, but Some of us have to work for a living. Oh, no, no, no, this is our this is Amazon. This is like another Cinderella film Oh my god, oh, do they do it? Yeah. Oh, I guess Cinderella's probably public domain Yes, it's well and absolutely. Yeah You never know Disney's bullshit. Just does that mean spider-man will be answered Captain America would be entering public domain in like Not that like 20 20 years, right? It's Superman as well Well, cuz Superman was created in 1930s, right now anybody can ruin them. Yeah I Man imagine you drive it to work and you see cuz in the video it's James Corden is wearing like a mouse suit It's like dude. It's not what I was expecting my day to turn into Imagine how awkward that would be if you don't care about this film, which is most people most What it's weird Tactic I'm sure everyone's really happy It's like one of those scenarios where there's like one guy that's like one bad day away to get it falling down free and Then get like blocked on your way towards. Okay. That's it. That's the day. I'm gonna kill them all Stuff only goes into public domain if no company maintains use of it. I don't think that's how that works That's not how it works because Mickey Mouse has gone into public domain in like three years It It's it seems like it's a little bit more complicated when it's like something that is owned by a business like mascots and stuff like that But eventually it goes into public domain Yeah How many have any of you seen the boondocks I haven't I Think it's a little bit the I've seen episodes of the boondocks I don't even know if I've seen episodes at chronological order. I think I just found some on YouTube and random watch them Well, there you go Hello ragu the great fagu. Oh Here is. Sorry. Give us random hot take of the day that we haven't heard already. Oh A new one go for it right new random hot take. Oh Wow, I'm not sure what's topical. What's what's good? What can we hate today? I feel oh here I guess here's me. I guess it's sort of a hot take. I feel bad for all the people who might have Lost their livelihoods with the only fans actual content ban. I actually kind of feel bad for him I heard they backfired on that. Well, they've suspended it from what I understand, which means Stop permanently from yeah. Yeah, that decision. Okay, okay, but I know you're not I know they're they're all a bunch of You know worthless hose like I get I totally understand But I do I do feel bad that if that's been your livelihood and you're doing that and then all of a sudden you get an email That says well, you can't do this anymore like I legitimately feel bad for that I'm not against actual marketplace doing this thing at all Yeah, I'm not Why they wanted to stop I heard it was something to with payment processes won't happen. That's what I've heard I don't know how much that is true But that's what I heard. Yeah, get a Market all right, I don't get a real job like funnily enough they do more work than fucking Hassan does Yeah, I don't I definitely don't want to promote the idea that you just get an email one day from something Yeah, like especially me being me and us doing what we do. I really don't like that idea I mean, of course, I wouldn't want to wake up one day YouTube. Hey, you go and see her like Not breathable. Yeah Sounds really bad And hey, man I mean smoke him if you got him if you're if you've got a really great looking body and people want to pay to see your tits I mean Yeah, like the I was gonna say I don't get it but I do The best version of all of it I'm more than happy for it to continue as it is and I wouldn't even go as far as saying get a real job It's like I mean if you take good care of your body and then you You do all So apparently the concern that banks and payment processes have was to do with illegal content on the platform. Oh Well, of course it yeah Which I guess that's a matter of only fans needs to like do a better job of policing their platform in that case They're not careers. So it would would a porn star be considered a career. I'd imagine so Yeah, it is a career. Yeah. And so it's a job that you do for money. And so only fans is like Not the same as a porn star But I mean it's we getting close at this point you're gonna have to be like the boxes we're taking gonna be a little bit arbitrary I'd imagine I'm against kuma culture. I mean, I want it to be specifically for consenting adults. That's what they want. It's like go for it Yeah, I mean regardless of how tasteful I find it or how valuable I find it I mean this is what it is. I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't I don't see it as being like a valuable thing at all But that's not for me to decide I guess Is they're not value in people being free to be able to do that with each other Well, no, that's what I'm saying is like I don't I'm saying that I don't care about that. This is the natural ID you just have to deal with it. Yeah, that's what you get. That's what you get I'm I'm yeah, I agree. I'm I'm anti the whole simp culture too, but if we're gunning if we're gunning for the The stuff where it's literally just like a guy or girl. It's just like, you know, I want to see that person naked I'll pay I get it and then I'm happy and that's it. You know that that's fine with me. You do you That meme If you're not shown it the meme is in the Simpsons when Homer was chasing after Ned and his family to play golf But James Corden is super opposed We're wearing a mouse costume dancing on the road What has he ever been in anything good? I think that's the thing because he's in Peter Rabbit. Those those ones right the new Peter Rabbit movie. They are they good. I Hear that they're not I don't even know what the Peter Rabbit stuff is. I have just like live-action CGI hybrid Peter Rabbit stuff Computer cotton tail hopping down the bunny trail. Hippity Nanny You know for what do you say like two? Cuz he's one to play golf. That's all I remember specifically Nanny The black eyes Also, what is everyone's favorite writing tool? pen Word processor, what do you mean? I like my keyboard or do you mean? I'm not sure do you mean like a specific? You know all the apps and stuff I use WPS office. I Used Microsoft office. I'm a Microsoft word is what I use a big fan of Microsoft office word love love it What's that sorry, I use Libra office, right? loser If the if the question is like a writing like a specific Tool that isn't like a physical tool or a piece of software, but some sort of Template or anything like that. I do like just the good old-fashioned You just make a table break up each section for each character and then just write down name traits Like beliefs, what do what do they do for work nice way to have them all lined up and keep track of People saying word is trash. I'm used word You've grained in me. I know how the mallers is notepad. That's what he uses for gondola. That's his favorite Not even notepad plus plus just no No pads a good guy would knock him does his job super easy. Yeah, it's just handy to have notepad around I Rags I show those y'all should give alien fire team elite a try. It's not colonial Marines I promise like a six to seven out of ten game. I am oh I've heard it's not. Oh, yeah, I heard it's not terrible. I've heard it's it's pretty decently reviewed I mean, I'd be down for giving it a try. Yeah, I kind of forgot about it No, that's just remember it because it was mentioned. Is that done Xbox game pass by any chance? Yeah. Oh, hmm Let me let me have a look Psychonauts 2 is out on that song and all the quake games were on game pass to recently added hmm and What oh, yeah, that's a whole bunch of things solitaire Microsoft solitaire collection Excellent now we're talking. Oh Oh Coming out in October. Yeah, but still looks like shit. So Does it I think it looks okay looks like a fucking mobile game, really? I think it looks fucking awful. What you mean like the way that it looks in terms of the art style or The actual game itself because I haven't seen as much for like what it looks like in play I mean, I've seen like the gameplay stuff like the animations look super weird Fucked. I like it. I actually like the way that the game looks shocked actually All right. Well, I think I'm I think I'm just what I'm thinking in my head. It's like I guess what which Maybe I need to remind myself because age of Empires 2 was the one that I was more familiar with I can't remember what that game what it looks like. I have a certain thing in my head, but That's not a game that I have touched in a very long very very long time Hmm Look at gameplay again. Oh I like the way that it looks. I uh, I think I was Assumption that was you know universally Said that it looks pretty fucking bad. So that's why I guess the problem is I'm sitting here thinking it's like There is a matter of readability will be an important thing. I imagine just for from a gameplay standpoint So making sure that everything looks very Very Distinct in terms of who's who and what what are what units you have just feels like that's just an important part of making sure that you don't get too confused It's not that the game official game freight trailer. This looks like ass Yeah, no, I I I uh, I guess I disagree. I think I'm looking at that one. I think it looks alright really Okay Well, I guess what what would you what do you think of the challenges that you would want to Make to make it look better. Is it more like a more raw realistic look you reckon? I think the textures just look really outdated. Like if I for example, look at this Oh, yeah, I guess that's Jesus the fucking trees and everything The animations look kind of super super duper basic. Oh I Need to remind myself for what that game is two is not even really 3d isn't like no It wasn't but but I guess it's like if we're if they were trying to emulate. I can't hmm Actually, you know what you're starting to convince me now that I think about it In terms of what they probably should have tried to go for because I remember I remember being really impressed by Edge of Empires as a kid in terms of like the way that it looks. Yeah, I think it's I think still holds up I think well, it's just it's got a very raw detailed. Yeah sort of um, I Guess that's the benefit that that game had because a lot of it is um pre You know like those pre-rendered assets. I think Let me see Yeah, it looks real actually. Yeah, you know what or yeah Give me that give me that big thing I think that's the thing now I'm reminded of as well as that it was much more zoomed out in Age of Empires too Hmm, that could be And so this one seems like really zoomed in everything's bigger Hmm people think they just Pushed it out super quickly because it's I think it's a game pass exclusive if I'm not I thought I got announced years ago Though I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure Age of Empires for going out like three or four years ago Completely out of my dread. That's just what I heard and read I think they just pushed it out because they have just make the game Well, get the money anyways because it's on the game pass They have very few games like for Xbox and stuff at the moment. It's um Ha, let's see. So it was in 2017 they announced it and now it's 2021. So it's been four years Since it was announced anyway It's being developed by relic entertainment who made like company of heroes and stuff like that man, I feel bad about ensemble because help They are they knew that they were getting shut down before Halo Wars got released So it's like hey finish this game and then you're fired That's not a fun way to work on a project And apparently they had a lot of resistance from Bungie throughout the entire process like Bungie We're very unreceptive to our to the exist. They didn't like the existence of the game Even the frame rate on this video is like super low Hmm, I know that's a low It's one of my least favorite things about you you mentioned it earlier It's one of my least favorite things about Starcraft is how zoomed in it is I fucking hate that I can't zoom out further in Star I had At the same issue when I played it I felt like all the time I was like, oh my previous zoomed in let me zoom out. Oh, that's that's it No, this is all you get to see of the game and I'm like fuck off. It's just so fucking annoying. It makes me upset I like Starcraft as a game, but fuck me. I just feel like I'm tunnel-visioned Why haven't they made Starcraft 3? What's what's the deal? Parted why did Blizzard wait so long to make sequels to their games? Well, like weird Except for overwatch 2 where it's the same as the first one for the most part looks that way anyway Well, I think it's like the whole game as a service thingy. They do. Yeah, just put up tons of content for it Seems that way I Guess they've got bigger problems to deal with at the moment though. Then I yeah a little bit maybe Um Metal when was the last time you checked the game out DST has so much added if you liked it before you'll love the 64-bit state It's in now Which game are we talking about DST? Dark Souls the Dark Souls the What game did I talk about earlier this one's from today, right? It's not from Maybe someone in chat knows what's DST stand for devils Sign nice stuff together. Oh, oh don't stop together No, don't say no, I haven't checked it out since but just a gameplay itself wasn't really super appealing to me So I don't think it's gonna change a lot for me. I mean I did a long long time ago. That's a fun game. That's a game I've kind of been lightly getting back into casually. It's a supreme commander forged alliance That is a game where you can absolutely zoom all the way the fuck out and all the way the fuck in you can put see things It's great and put your your map on on a separate monitor as well, which I always found really cool feature Yeah But yeah, I don't think it's gonna change My mind and don't start together. I mean if someone's in here wants to play it at some point I'm happy to join in but on my own. I probably be doing good Like I said, I played it a little bit once and yeah, I didn't get super into it It's interesting how games like subcom they get just they're beloved and really highly rated They make a shitty sequel and then it just dies And you're like, why don't you just like the first one again? Why don't you just do like a game that's sort of like the first one that people love? Why don't you do that again? No, I don't know. I'm not a businessman. I I'm I don't I'm not a game dev or publisher, but sometimes I wonder Yeah Sometimes the solution is so easy and they just don't do it Man, I don't know why I just got onto this thought maybe it's because of age of empires You remember when there was meant to be like a command and conquer game that EA was making and then it got canceled And then they made that mobile game What was I called command and conquer? Shit, I know what I'm up. Yeah, look it up because I'm Generals is like an old one. Yeah. No, it's um something else was it Was like it's such a renegade like the FPS one it was a mobile game that was where is it? Rivals was it called right? Rivals is such like a life Yeah, that's like that is a mobile game name Sonic rivals and it's command and conquer rivals. That's the one. Yeah It's like the shitty it's like the kid gloves version of Nemesis Well, there was sonic rivals need for speed rivals That was another thing total biscuit talked about rivals on arm. It was locked at 30 FPS And if you unlock the frame rate to 60 FPS the game was twice the speed Yes, you had that Degree your weapons twice as fast as well There was a portage shooter on steam as well where you took double damage all the time because of the high frame rate Which one was it I think it was a PlayStation 3 title title I like to Can run the name I mean one of the cancel games was renegade to which I'm guessing Would be another first-person shooter one. Yeah, I Think that's the last one that was cancelled as far as I know this might that might have been the one Just is another example of like EA gets the franchise and then like makes some shitty games And then just goes away forever Well, like they don't even make bad games But they just it doesn't do as well as they need it to so then it goes away Yeah, it does fine and you can't just make fine games You have to make games that are insane blockbuster successes so that we can do more of them And then the next one we make will be shit and then the series is dead forever and then we was the Squaring except the same issue with their Western IPs like hitman absolution which It's definitely more linear than like blood money It came out it sold like three million copies that wasn't enough and then hitman was gonna die, but then IO got to go independent and then they started making it and it was profitable again Very quickly. I remember Tomb Raider. That was the notable one It sold something like six million copies and that wasn't good enough because it cost it costs so much money to make Um Sleeping dogs, I remember that game that was really cool and that sold like two and a half million copies the brand new IP And that wasn't good enough for them Deus Ex wasn't good enough for them, but meanwhile they can spend ten years making Final Fantasy 15 And like seven or eight years on Kingdom Hearts It's not fair Do you guys remember that in that game by any chance like a third person? It's a third person fast paced shooter we like dash around you have like a Like a robot suit on To move or frame anthem No, not warframe. It's a single-player game. No, not anthem. Oh, what's the PlayStation 3 game? Thank you Vanquish, that's the one vanquish. Oh, that was that was a platinum Yeah, that that had the problem with the FPS what I was talking about you got like double damage and it gets much harder That's one of the issues with the Dead Space one on PC if you go if you the higher the frame rate gets the wonkier The game gets well, it's interesting in by the way Vanquish I've heard a lot of good things about vanquish. Yeah, I think the thing with the frame rate is it's just something to do with like It's just a code thing where depending on how you've constructed the game You can just have that issue where on the the frame rate is is tethered to core gameplay elements I find it always kind of embarrassing when The devs go out Devs are publishers are like, no, that's like in the code You can't change it then some randy and then it's like I fixed it. You want to know how it's like, no It's it's I guess it's a problem if you were making the game and you didn't know you were going to put it on PC and you were just going for 30 fps. Anyway, I guess maybe it's easier to do like that. Yeah like I get it but Like there's just no excuse outside of that narrow reason excuse But even then if you put it on pc it should I like I'm sorry. I expect to be able to play at high frame rates Um, if you port it over to pc like you gotta you gotta fix that problem Don't just lock it to 30. I remember when Mortal Kombat 11 came out Like there were there were elements of the game that were locked to 30 fps. You'd play and it's like oh 60 fps Like a fighting game. Yeah, cool. And then when you do your crazy like x-ray moves It just goes to 30. It's like this is so jarring and crap Why would you do this? And then there was like a mod that came out a week later that fixed it and the whole game runs properly Yeah The freaking menus were 30 fps when they worked All right, well that was Mortal Kombat X you're talking about there. Yeah Like uh Man, never never realms pc ports. I then injustice didn't even have one adjusts to rather. It's just not on pc at all um Oh frog Australian person favorite and least favorite characters in red dead redemption 2 Um Huh That's a tough Um It feels unfair to say that Arthur is my favorite because he's the main character. So he got the most development and was the most I feel like if you have excluding Arthur because he probably would be at the top. Um Man Uh, I feel like dutch is fighting for that place I really like charles. Um, he was he was he was he was a good and um Damn, I'm not sure. Uh, I feel like it probably be dutch. Yeah Um dutch being like interesting because of course like I have a lot of like dutch is uh He's uh, he's got a lot of them problems, but he's super interesting character. Um I like john more and red dead redemption 1 than I do in 2. Um, probably just because again main focus Cynical observations about the world reminds me a lot of like typical, you know rock star games protagonist least favorite We're so I see someone shouting Lenny. I do like Lenny, but we don't get a lot of time with Lenny Um as for least favorite Micah feels like the obvious choice, but I like him as an antagonist. So it doesn't feel like a It doesn't feel like that makes sense. Um Hmm I'm sure I like a lot of those characters. I'm not sure there are many that I really dislike at all Like Sadie a lot I'd it'd be cool if she was like protagonist in a later game It like if they're gonna make another one. I'd I'd be cool with seeing Sadie's adventures up in canada Oh, hosea was awesome. Yeah hosea. I really liked as well Yeah, there's there's some of your answers a whole bunch of characters Also, does that place you live in exist yet? Love you your frogs dallying you Thank you. Australia does exist stop gaslighting me I'm walking around and just like, where am I? What is this void? It's also scary What a load of poor shit just ringing on his pc. This is all there is here It's all a simulation void Why were you late mula james cordon in edina menzel and billy porter were dancing on the metro? Well, you could have called in advance mula Yeah, I know. Yeah Could you imagine saying why were you late for work? I don't know if fucking james cordon was in a mouse cost The road listen. Okay. I know you won't believe me, but I'm telling you the truth Love you guys Oh, the just you would have pulled out your phone. I imagine Prove it your boss is just like memes to prove. I'm sorry. I am down in you My mistake Uh Love you guys you've helped inspire me to make my own youtube video with more to come Patty the platypus if chat is interested there you go Glad we could like bury the platypus from uh, finish and furb That's a good show I liked finish and furb. It was just fun. Hey, we're on summer vacation. What's our next adventure today? What are we doing? Yeah, there was a lot of here's clever stuff in there There's a lot to like a hundred and four days of summer vacation school comes along just to end it and then I forget what it goes after that It sounds a lot like a Lincoln park with some no not Lincoln park. What was the full out boy? What was what? They got a little meta with some of that thing like wow like summer I feel like summer's been I feel like summer has been like three years now Little things like that They would there was a lot of good stuff in there. There's a lot of good stuff The most matter that got in uh, Simpson's the family I crossover. How long has Nelson been beating you up? And he's like 25 years Oh, but I also had the meta joke where Homer when he was fighting Peter And he got all of his Emmys out of this brawl and just starts throwing them at Peter. It's like that's not fair I got none of those Good stuff. Yeah, you know a family guy got nominated Do you know a family guy? Well, this might depress them, right? When family guy came back in like season four It was the first animated show since the flintstones to be nominated for just outstanding comedy like just in that category not the animated one Simpsons was never nominated for that Damn South Park was never nominated for that really get it. I don't understand Was so South Simpson South Park and stuff like family guys never won an Emmy But Simpson South Park Bob's burgers future armor. They've all won Emmys because like for the outstanding animated program but It's not as common that the animated show gets nominated for the outstanding It's the same with the Oscars Beauty and the Beast was the first animated film to be nominated for Best Picture Um, and then up and Toy Story 3 got nominated and it's like man fucking labor that like Wally And monster zinc and finding Nemo and the Incredibles never got that nomination but up and Toy Story 3 got it Yeah, they miss out because they're just born the wrong time in a way They're born at the wrong time when yeah, they weren't allowed to win those awards basically I mean best animated feature didn't even exist until like 2001 but when Shrek got it Please there's some justice in the world that it got it Well, yeah, but monsters ink didn't get it because that was a good year for like those films and yeah And I guess it's it's one of the things that you you see when you look through the list It's like Disney and specifically Pixar just dominates that category To an extent that I would say is unwarranted Um, I'm pretty sure that spider-man into the spider-verse was like the first non-disney film to win since like rango Or in fact it might have it might have even been before that. I think it was um I remember that the one that I read was that it was the first film to win where Pixar wasn't also in contention since 2006 I don't know about that Because that was cars too. That was when cars came out and that was like the one time that something else won I think happy feet got it Rango was good. Yeah, I like rango Can we watch some boondocks clips to sound style, please? I I think that's an illegal Uh copyright on individual works expires if it's not extended again trademarks for mickey keeps being valid as long as they use Mickey on products Oh trademarks is a different thing. Yeah, trademark. She can you can still keep doing but like just the overall is this product available in public domain. That's uh Just independent of any other fact seems tends to be the case. Yeah, but um, mickey's running out and they're all Yeah, it's like I said three years. Um, unless disney gets it extended again Yeah, which they're probably working to try and do as best as possible I would imagine. I mean the legislation that came out in the 90s colloquially referred to was the mickey maps act I was like disney was instrumental in helping uh extend the the whole thing Then again, I'm not super familiar with that pulse. You know escapade I think there's literally an only fans out there where a woman gets paid for making gummy bears out of her own urine and shipping them to people The beauty of capitalism Find a man to man That's probably people want that and that's a stanky process. I imagine Oh, no, I don't hate it Yeah The the uh, yeah, because I don't like the word stank. That's right. I don't yeah, it's just It's just Like my nose rankles at the sound of it Uh, would you consider shinobal? A near 10 out of 10 the only floor I can recall is the yulana commu getting into moscow hospital offscreen I don't think I've thought about it I don't have to think about it. I really liked nobel But I will say you've got to be careful about saying things are like 10 out of 10 Yeah, that's the thing. I think it's really or even nine out of 10 Or even yeah, I haven't been super critical of it. Um There's a lot of value there though. Um, yeah, but yeah, I'd have to look at it critically to make sure But yeah, you don't want to get in a situation where you're saying like a show is like a Consistently like a nine or a 10 because it's like man that is a yeah, like oh Oh, yeah, like every episode's a nine or every episode's a 10. That's like, ooh, man. That's a really really high bar You gotta you gotta reserve those numbers for um And it's funny right because you're trying to apply it to like ones and twos as well as well Unfortunately the last year has just not been good in that regard for twos Out of 10 Bit a lot of those in terms of mainstream stuff. Yes, sir Um, she's been arrested. So I doubt she could just walk in if she'd snuck in I'd argue that should have been a scene. Oh, that's related again to chanel. Um So I said you can't really review a whole tv show. Yeah, yeah, we've done it many times actually Yeah, of course you can review a whole tv show. Why not? It's a long movie. Why why could you not? I don't know why why would you say that? Why you doing it don't say that very bizarre Um, glad to see if up 150 catch up is going well people. He he oh, you're amused by it. That's that's great. Yeah, it's going well Sorry, I meant for stories What writing tool work is your favorite when done well like revenge plots or something? Okay, thank you for examples that helps immensely, um Um Anything that's done well, that's that's I don't know. I'm not Hmm. I do like a good revenge plot. I do like a good You know Edmund Dante's ride kind of story, um Uh-huh Because it gives you especially if you establish early on why you really want to root for this character that can help a lot Um and seeing how far they'll go and if they have limits that sort of thing Build uh, hmm I don't know that I have a preference. I count just like anything when it's done well. That's good. Yeah Yeah, I do like revenge plots. I like um I like a good detectivey story Where they're trying to piece together all the the evidence like knives out I like a good disaster film too like underwater where something happens and the people have to Make use of what they can to get out of a dangerous situation black widow disaster movie Yeah, kind of before I scream I can't believe I I went I went a whole like day without thinking about black widow potentially And you took it away from me You killed that from me References aren't they fun? Yeah Oh no, uh, someone asked why why doesn't Tony know about his parents death before Zemo shows him the footage all the hydrofiles were leaked Oh, that's a good question and I bet there's an answer for that. Maybe they'll get it one day. I don't know Yeah, that's a good. You know what that is a totally fair question. I want out for yourself actually. Yeah That that is a legit a fair question to ask, but there just might be a reason for that Yeah Wait a minute. I'll come back you sorry The faint Above my micro Do you think Grace Randolph gave her boyfriend a tomato? Yeah, maybe It's not like that's not slang for like herpes. Is it or uh, that's a motto because she gives out tomatoes Yeah, that's the intention of the I'm sorry, but I know that's fine. That's her enough I think that's a good it's good to be reminded Yeah it is um Is she the is she in a stable relationship? If so I don't I don't I'm telling you man. It must be just her shrill voice Every time that bitch opens her mouth. You just want to go shut up You're the the noise you are making is horrific just because you disagree with her opinions No, it just makes her terrible opinions worse to hear It's like the blurriness an army of the dead um Look rags is right though. I'm very socially conservative. Let's say even I've considered becoming a jiggolo I mean, do you know how much money you can make people should do what they want? A a jirkelo jiggolo Oh, those are the insane clown posse role players, right? yeah I think they're just they're just just all I know is deuce bigelow european jiggolo But I know pretty sure it's just prostitute person man, I guess I'm not looking for the definition of jiggolo Or maybe that's a juggolo is what I'm confusing it with You mean it's juggolo. Yeah Okay Yeah, I didn't know that jiggolo was a a term frame male prostitute person Uh Which is hypocritical of bungee the original halo framework was that of an rts game? Uh, then they considered 3d person third person, sorry, um Then settled with what we see today tusk tusk I guess i'm not sure why they didn't like halo wars. I didn't know maybe it was just the aspect of Wanted to have total control over everything halo related So that as the story goes they were unhappy with what they considered to basically be their baby being handed off to somebody else to work on Um, that's understandable It's understandable, but at the same time like It seemed like they were kind of called to the to the development team and it's like it's not their choice Like they have to do this they're owned by microsoft It was like a project that was given to them But yeah, I I can understand not being happy with like, oh, there's like these other people who are going to be making A halo story when like we make halo. That's like our thing however Based on every interview and all of the things behind the scenes It sounds like ensemble were very much dedicated to being authentic and accurate to this universe I hear generally good things about halo wars one and two. I like halo wars. It's uh I haven't played much of halo wars or halo wars too, but I like them there. I enjoyed it a bunch Yeah for an rcs game for console like pretty good Um by that standard you can still have ptsd from captain cutter using his um Like a thingy strike and then launching 108 od sts onto your base god Pain and that's not including the army he has fucking captain cutter Yeah Talking about our role play making sense not movies like introducing new characters that That that entirely ret contextualized. What the fuck is this? Like introducing new characters that that entirely ret contextualized a cgi starter since the owner didn't want them to be evil anymore I don't really understand the words you're saying Yeah, I want to I want to try and read it again because I'm very confused We're talking about our role play making sense not movies like introducing new characters that that entirely ret contextualized a cgi starter Since the owner didn't want them to be evil anymore Um, I'm lost Um, they follow up with most of my tax-based role play have been combat crp or just wholesome relationships Or hanging out or saving the world ERPs are pretty self-contained and rarely cross over with my mainline rps It's an ERP And the CRP is a combat role play Yeah, like playing like combat and pathfinder and dungeons and dragons I'm honestly. I'm just I'm I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with this. Uh I'm a little bit lost I don't know if it's contradicting anything we've said or if it's just telling us about something they do Uh, I guess thumbs up. I I'm afraid I just I don't know what else to say. I'm sorry Um I'm a big fan of content moeller. It's addicting to hear you pointing out all the bad writing in the mcu shows You're going to work with more editors to make more videos also thoughts on Loki Well You don't have to assume you didn't know but we've got a whole stream on Loki. We went through the whole thing pretty much Yeah, and we'd make fun of it regularly Yes, uh disaster, uh, if you've come here from having seen the black widow video Uh, we've actually on this whole show. We got here. We've done A breakdown of one division falcon the winter soldier and Loki if you search For any of them plus efap you'll find a whole video waiting for you We were not fans of either of the three shows or all of the three We'll throw them. Yeah, not fan Over you that that'll that'll be fun for you. Uh, it's okay. Fringy wyoming also doesn't exist yet. I live there. Ah Why I mean, uh If I went to america, I'd like to visit wyoming feels like a lot of natural scenery there that would be cool to look at I've been to south dakota and it was gorgeous So that was dakota. Yeah, help me out here is yellowstone is in south in wyoming, right? I think so Something like that I've Yeah, I think so, uh I'd like to go to yellowstone As as you do Yeah, yeah I've done that a few times. Yeah. Yeah, it is in wyoming, of course What happens if we do this? Oh I don't know. Hmm. I need filter grabbers if I want to do that. All right fine. I will do it this way instead Genius I am so clear of her It's the Porn is bad because you'd expect her to do cartwheels like you saw There and then you end up disappointed and break up also penguin play gta assay San Andreas I guess San Andreas That would I heard that there's there's There's a rumor that they're going to be remastering three vice city and san Andreas my god, and Yeah, yeah, I will I will buy those in a heartbeat if uh, if they if I do I would I would Yeah, no, I'll I'll I'll definitely consume grand theft auto. Yeah, um, especially those ones like there is kind of a Man, I do wonder how how many changes I would want them to make though I I think um, I think I'd want them to keep everything the same just update the graphics have it be A game that is easier for me to you know, like engage with, uh Wait, does does rockstar make grand theft auto games anymore? Well, I mean Grand theft is funny right grand theft auto five is eight next month Eight years old. It's how long ago it came out Um, I'm pretty sure it is all but certain that they're making grand theft auto six and it's going to be set in vice city But it's not coming out for years Um, unfortunately the online stuff just makes a lot of money And so there's a big incentive to keep investing in that rather than making new game Um, but yeah as for porn is bad because you'll expect to do things and stuff Don't you worry. That's you. That's not the porn's fault. It's your fault Yeah, you you just have to learn about what's happening there and what isn't happening in other things And and just just have to make that separation. You'll be fine Wait, this isn't automatic. I just have to have robots to do it. That's kind of annoying Unless I'm screwing this up also get out of my thing There we go I guess I just want is a way to like copy and paste better than this Um, where do you all get the film footage for your vids? Generally youtube or other places we need to Always recommend that you can pretty much find anything you're looking for on good old youtube clips um There are there are many many ways in which to acquire clips You gotta be careful about how you do it though. You don't want to be you want to be stealing stuff Yeah, that would be bad YouTube but but moller is pretty much right if you if you need a scene from something Generally youtube will have it Hello Machines making machines Currently on the minus 25 win streak. Thanks to the lost Well, if you don't tell anybody then who's gonna know They could see it when his stream what? What? Fucked up That's that's abusing your freedoms. I'm ill Um I am a cleaner of theaters and saw the start and end to the new candy man You wouldn't believe how anti-white it is. That's a shame I don't know. Maybe I would believe you. I've seen unfortunately I saw j long bones coverage of the trailer and um, I've got a vague understanding of candy man And like it's a really it's a cool. IP and it's gonna get ruined Against just everything else gets ruined So shock Mel why are you shocked it happens to loads stuff? Wow, that's because i'm retarded Yeah I've concluded the guardians one and two are better than civil war and possibly the best in the mcu The only thing off is drax in two thoughts Um, I put civil war above them But uh, that's because this is a little bit take a while to explain why um the guardians one and two are pretty good They are pretty good. Yeah Definitely two of the ones I like a lot Have you read those opinion blurbs from the academy people who vote on what animated movie gets an award? They're so dismissive and outright cruel I can't believe it and cruel um the problem That's the problem with blurbs a lot of the time if you summed up what I said about black widow in a blurb I would sound pretty fucking harsh and unsubstantiated Before the video came out, I had so many people telling me like come on more like it's not that bad It's just a sort of middling movie and so if I'd come out being like it is the worst one. It's terrible. It does everything wrong They'd be like, yeah, okay But then if you hear me say it after four hours of my points You might you might be like, oh, you know, I can kind of see it. I can kind of see it What matters more than that Also, there we go. In fact, you think it's middling is why I need to make this video. Yeah Been trying to fix this stupid stuttering issue I've had in oblivion for the past four years can't seem to get rid of it no matter what but let's re-release skyrim again I guess curse you Todd It just works. Do they never re-release oblivion? That I know of I don't think so. That's just the original version That's mean I think they'd be all over that with how popular skyrim was they'd be like, yeah This is the game that came before skyrim. It's kind of like it but better So you can go ahead and you could download it. Ooh, and it's going to get remastered with all the DLCs included. Oh, boy Oh, very sexy Very sexy indeed Um, I asked fan fictions I have ideas for some stories with canon stories, and I'm afraid if I make my original setting It'll just be a cheap copy Then be creative start with something tweak it change it modify it Broaden the amount of things you pull inspiration from Yeah, I was gonna say don't give up just because you're like, you know what if I change some names here It's just too obviously a Star Wars ripoff. So keep going And then you're like, oh, you know what what if I involve something from Indiana Jones? What if I involve something from Jurassic Park here? Let's throw a dinosaur here dinosaur planet Now it's not Star Wars at all Um, hi rags and others. Hello. Hello. Hi there What's your favorite revenge movie story personally? Mine is the count of Monte Cristo from the books to the movies and even the anime I I like that one a lot. I Argued probably my favorite book. Uh, it's been ages since I've read it and it's a fucking chonker. So I do need to Check it out again or get an abridged version or check out some movies of it Maybe there's been plenty of movies done of it. Maybe some of them were good That could be its own arc the the count of Monte Cristo adaptations, but Um kill bill is really great like kill bill a bunch Have you guys seen death sentence? No the the the movies like That's essentially about a guy whose son gets killed in like a gang thing And he basically goes and gets revenge on the entire gang The reason I like it Because I'm not I'm not sure how good I'd say it is, but I really liked it because He's really bad at it throughout most of the movie And he's really struggling to get like shit done and things get really bad as a result of him having decided to do it Um Wouldn't mind seeing that again. Sometimes it's a very quintessential revenge movie Hmm. I don't have taken counts II yeah, I'd count it. Why not a lot of fun Django. Yeah, that's pretty fucking great Oh, yeah, Django. I always forget that's a revenge movie for some reason. Yeah, that's good The biggest problem I have in stories is I want to set it up and have it react, but I don't know how to keep events happening Hmm because um Say that one more time Uh, the biggest problem I have in stories is I want to set it up and have it react But I don't know how to keep events happening So the interesting thing is like Uh Probably part of the big inspiration for game of thrones was just what happens next in lord the rings Was aragorn a good king. What kind of problems did he face that sort of stuff? All right, the new yeah, he's he's a shit king. Fuck aragorn. He's an actual asshole And he was a loser at everything and everyone actually hated him and then he ran away Um, and he abandoned his family And gondor and he said that actually a siren was pretty cool. He was just misunderstood and uh We made a new character and she's just the best and she's great and she's gonna take over gondor And she's gonna be the new queen of gondor and she's gonna rule way better and everyone loves her And she's just the best sword fighter that ever fought with swords So hopefully we wouldn't do that but um You know like the idea of uh, robert baratheon could very well have come from aragorn but changing qualities being like What if he was more invested in the fight rather than The the win or and like what does a great soldier end up doing when he's a leader and What happens at the worst possible times of those could he be manipulated and then Like that. So I guess what i'm getting at here is just like if you've Not got willed events to start dragging people into other circumstances. You just try and look at the consequences of uh Almost resolutions because then you know something that we've brought before that's kind of interesting But it didn't get to happen was had vader survived in return of the jedi and he comes back with luke to endor Like how's that gonna go? Like oh, hey It's like I helped actually destroy everything. So are we cool? It's like we ain't cool We are fucking far from cool Oh long So yeah, like uh I guess you just have to take into consideration what everybody's invested in doing and and see what you can do with that Um, oh you can keep throwing on Oh more willed events. I mean, that's pretty much what the mcu is doing right now. It's like you're done with thanos All right, we're gonna bring you something else. Uh kang now do that And then galactus doom Bethesda Okay, I know we probably shouldn't do this too much otherwise we'll get flooded with suggestions But you know what would be really funny if rag sang the lyrics to hitla rap by whitest kids, you know everyone watch wk uk the hilarious rip trevamore gone too soon I've seen some of their skits. They're pretty good I don't know that rap though Yeah, and we're probably not gonna Not gonna read out rap lyrics. Come on. We'll be here forever another we're already here forever Spider-man homecoming far from home. No way home home wrecker home invader homicide homeless homo lymphoma guys. I need sleep You guys should do a fucking dammit. Sorry You'll survive. It's okay You guys should do a haunting of hillhouse style video on shinobal one day. It's only five hours Oh, the only thing about that that I would just I would feel a little bit inadequate Because I just don't know enough about what actually happened to be able to talk about that as well as just how good I think the show was done Well, that would be an adaptation thing, right? Well, what else would it be? Yeah, would we have well, we don't normally read the comic books when we Oh, yeah, but shinobal's like that's a huge event though. I really want to know real. Yeah, like, uh, when a hillhouse is fiction so I from what I under shinobal is complicated because um There were a lot of things about it where they were they were trying really hard to be authentic And then there are other aspects of it that are just From I think the most contentious thing is the whole if we don't fix this Everybody in europe will die like I'm pretty sure that is an exaggeration. It was really bad But that was never likely That the the the worst would be just like long-term adverse health effects on a lot of people in uh in like eastern europe Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. I don't know about radiation. It's gonna be useful. Yeah, of course naturally It's it's not it's not a an area of and and I guess it's a matter of what was the objectives with shinobal as a show and I think it was more the The process like how could this mistake happen? and How would um, how how would they you know, how did they Respond into it. Oh, and one of the things that's been already mentioned in chat. Yeah, love wasn't a cartoon villain It's like yeah that though. I remember there was a uh, I think it was called zero hour It was like a documentary sort of dramatization series from the 2000s where I think he was portrayed as kind of like Homically incompetent there as well um The real life situation seems to be a lot more complicated than that Yeah um I guess it's a question of how much time do you have as well? Five episodes not not a lot of time. Well, there's the thing. We haven't even done one of a blire yet. So We obviously want to I I think shinobal was really effective as a as a series though like regardless of the authenticity of it There's a lot of stuff about it that's great from a construction standpoint Like stories Mm-hmm More since you like symphonic metal do you listen to a band epica EP Ica if not, then I highly recommend them. They're a fantastic band I've not heard of them and perhaps I shall in the future I'm having checking them out If you're ever going to cover 2005 king kong you should also cover the 1933 version alongside it for efat movies episode Perhaps we shall Maybe maybe Uh, I hear rumors that the gta remasters are also going to be more pc careful what you wish for Um, I don't know why I would have a lot less reason to imagine that they'll be toning down of the content Considering that like grand theft auto has always been satire I when when I say remasters from what I understand it would just be like the game but with updated graphics Um, no changes to the cutscenes or anything like that I would be less on board with the remaster of it meant like re-recording dialogue and changing dialogue and things like that Yeah, um That's just gonna get me even more trouble if they end up like remaking games like gta and then cleansing them all Do like absolutely What I've grand theft auto is like the south park of video games They make fun of everything and everybody and do it in a very irreverent way. It's um It's already been confirmed about the censoring. How could it be confirmed when the games themselves haven't been confirmed to exist I mean, I guess they could confirm their intentions if they were to do it again Uh, yeah, but I mean like I said from what I understand It's just a rumor like there is no official confirmation of anything yet I guess it depends on whether it's in-house as well If it's rock star making order if it's gonna get be done by somebody else Yeah That man those games like time capsules for those, you know the early 2000s Or I would be very unhappy if they started changing things Yeah, I think a shit ton of people would they'd have to really think about doing that Yeah, um, it has been mentioned though as well that um, uh Man, I can't believe I'm spacing on this name Dan hauser who Wrote basically every rock star game since I think even three. He he's not with the company anymore So I am very interested to see what the next game looks like in terms of its writing when it's it's we don't have the same people anymore Yep trepidation everywhere for everything Yeah, a wonderful era uh A clarification the academy blibs are dismissive and cruel to animation as a whole many don't even bother to watch the nominees or their kid picks Uh, yeah, if you were trying to say like they're really cruel to animation this is like, yeah A lot of eras of idiocy unfortunately animation comedy even in general hot fuzz Science fiction, absolutely. Yeah, like or just even fantasy You kind of get a little bit tougher as well. Like lord of the rings really broke through in that regard um But contemporary dramas about horseshit. Yeah, it's it's yeah, it's fucking odd That's what we talked about oscar bait. You just know that this movie is like, oh, yeah, this is well It's yeah, it's it's if it's a comedy if it's speculative fiction if it's animation You have significantly reduced your chances of being nominated for the best picture um Then again, jojo rabbit got nominated and that's a comedy But I guess it's more like subject matter as well Maybe because if if there was justice in the world hot fuzz would have won the oscar for best picture It would have at least been nominated It's a fucking good and Yeah Of course like the fact that saving private ryan didn't win for best picture like everyone knows it was Oh, and of course la confidential got nominated for best picture, but it lost to titanic because titanic won everything I was like, man, I think la confidential is better than titanic I gotta say that's the thing titanic's cultural impact probably got it the win It probably did. Yeah when everyone is seeing la confidential is like that's a fucking good movie though Yeah How many did avatar win did avatar get showered and no No, I think I think it got nominated for best picture though, which again is bullshit shouldn't have been nominated Um, but it got a lot of awards for like the editing and visual effects and sound design and stuff like that um It's just Yeah, it's it's lame that so many sort of films and things are more or less just by default exempt Um, I mean because yeah, you even think about like line You know it was mentioned beauty in the base got nominated line king never got nominated for best picture please um Yeah, wow. I yeah, it's just animated animated films so seldom get nominated in that category Um, I mean I'm like it took a while before because uh, Logan was the first one where it was a comic book film for a screenplay Black Panther was the first time that it was a comic book film like nominated for the best picture Uh, and joker as well. It's like setting some records as well I mean chat mentioned crash I haven't seen crash, but from what I understand that is like one of the most contentious ones in terms of why this film wins Have you seen crash? I have seen crash. Um, I don't know man like I think it's it's hard to talk about that one because it's really gonna depend where you are politically. Um Okay, it you could argue it tries to have multiple perspectives on racism Um, but some people would say that it's it's not making the message clear enough Okay, and so there's Like there's I think Oh, man, there's so this so there's like events in it that are really there's like a One of the things that happens is like a white cop Um Abuses the fuck out of uh, like a black woman at one point. I think it's near the beginning Then like later on she's in a car crash and he's the only one that can save her And so he's trying to and she's like terrified of him the whole time. So there's like scenarios they come up with there's like, uh, racism that's based on Um, like nothing like prejudice is really hardcore, but then it you know, some of it ends up being Uh, well the bread and fray isn't that movie by the way There are a lot of people in that that was like a big ensemble cast, right? She ain't black. I can't fucking I don't remember who's who in that. I saw it ages ago I guess the point is that they come up with a lot of scenarios that are really fucking awkward to watch that relate to racism and prejudice about Uh, you know skin color and where people are from and stuff Um, okay. Did they do much with it though? I was like I have to rewatch it I just when I was watching it. I was like, oh, it's so fucking obvious Why so many people like have so much to say about this movie Right, I see Feel like um, it's interesting that there's a similar thing that's happened with like video games as well It's um, like you look at the game awards. It's not surprising that like it shouldn't have surprised anybody at the last of us to One like that award uh for for like the game of the year. That doesn't surprise me at all Oh, yeah, we all knew it was gonna win It was gonna win all the awards and it was yeah, and then well, I hated it It is it is the problem of like the games that sony makes are the types of games that get nominated at that kind of awards thing Cinematic third person action adventure game like the games are just trying to be a lot more like movies And they'll usually be one indie game that gets thrown in so they'll be like your Hades or a Celeste But that one usually never stands a chance of winning Because because I'll get the award for like the indie one and it's like, ah, see they got the indie ones They're not going to get like the the proper one Well, I'll say the proper one. It means a lot more to me that one like specifically Yeah, it just it's Yeah, it seems like uh That's kind of the the issue that gets run into like um I'm just looking through the list of like best picture wins as you go through them gum Dunkirk got nominated for best picture. It's a interesting choice Wow, you didn't like Dunkirk I like Dunkirk, but like best picture. I don't know about that one Just know them Yeah, there's no one so, you know, there you go It didn't just tell I get nominated for best picture. I Know fortunately Wow fortunately with the fuck free Uh, uh, what was I I was thinking? Oh, yeah, that's right because Shawshank is another film that I love that didn't win At forest gump got it. It's like dude. I like forest gum, but man Shawshank redemption old fiction Oh Like titanic beat goodwill because goodwill hunting came out that year as well. It's like are you uh, man Oh Think of the culture for me. Think of the culture boy. Oh boy. Oh boy. And and then you look at this a beautiful mind beat out fellowship Chicago beat out two towers And then finally returned to the king Got one I do need to see no country for old men. So very very good Yeah I'm upset that I haven't watched yet The hurt locker I remember that was a contentious one And I I see why because it's savior is it in glorious bastards What do we think of hurt locker? I feel like that movie is um, I like it. I think it's I liked it too. Um, I don't see it the once but I guess that's my thing is I don't know. Well, I I certainly know that I think in glorious bastards is better than the hurt locker I think district nine is better than hurt locker two I haven't seen it since it came out. So Right, so it might be one of those ones where it's like, hmm, let's Critical reappraisal. Let's see Um, perhaps And then yeah, the the year after that was it was The same year that social networks. Yeah, I gotta stop looking at this Frustrating how often how often my favorite one doesn't get nominated doesn't get the win Oh the icons are frozen. Damn. There you go. Oh, apparently like seems like a lot of people in chat don't like hurt locker I like I said, I I really I just know that jeremy renders in it, right? Uh, yes, he the the gist of it is that he is a bomb defusal guy who Like he likes the action. He likes being there looks the risk and It's so much so that he's completely unable to sink back into a normal life um I remember that there was a part where um in the movie where because they It was like along the lines if he was looking for trouble basically and then that got one of his, uh Fellow squad mates got shot in the leg totally like shattered is One of his, uh, what camera bone, but yeah Hmm Oh, yeah, and anthony mackey was in it too. That's right. Hmm Before he became captain falcon Black falcon That was remember that that was totally what he was called not just falcon Black falcon Uh, any of you played bully. What did you think? I Played a little bit of bully back in the day. Um, I never had it played it through friends I remember finding that game kind of interesting and cool as a premise, but um I haven't played enough of it to say much about it But I know that a lot of people really like bully Yeah game Really solid It's one of those ones where it's like they should have they probably should have like done more for that You know, there should have been another one Wasn't there a chance of there being another one that it didn't happen or something? I think there was a chance because it's been rumored for like years and years and years But I mean at this point I'd say that's it's not gonna happen It is now all about grand theft auto and red dead redemption No more max pain no more midnight club LA noir people's probably not gonna happen What if I really wanted though Yeah, maybe I really want it but more people want like just more grand theft auto red dead redemption um Yeah, uh, I thought bully was pretty good Uh from what I remember it would be cool to get an updated like version of it I don't know if it would be fucked by Like it was a little it was a little edgy in terms of you were a school kid being able to do all kinds of Rambunctious things. Well, I think it nearly got banned. Uh, that was that was part of the discourse at the time Like the the parents were saying that it would encourage people to bully other kids Yeah Even though it's a game that's not for kids. It's it's like it's not a kid's game Um, no hitler rap. Oh man. I mean if we start reading out raps we'll never stop It was the concern you put in your own chat Uh problems I have with writing are stringing scenes together fractured ideas and thinking too far into the story And feeling as if I'm backtracking which leads to huge amounts of writer's block I'm gonna be honest with you. That sounds like you're just describing the process of writing. That's that's yeah Comfortable those problems is tough. It ain't fun. Sometimes. It's not fun Um Oh, this was retracted. I don't know what it said Oh last super had a typo found a candy man review by a channel called movie slob I need this to be a subject of an e-fap Well, I'd have to see candy man and I And then I want to see the original first and then I'd want I'd have to drag all these guys through it And you know, it's that's a whole thing Like they're okay with being dragged through something like black widow because it's it's very good content, but No, you're not dragging him through candy man. He's like, oh, it's a bit mean Help us He won't let us out of the cellars Hello there everyone. I was curious. What are your favorite actors slash actresses living all past? Mine is the late legend that is christophily He's definitely out there. Yeah Anthony hopkins. There's a fucked up answers for this one um jack Nicholson Um, it's one of them questions. We're blanks. Yeah, it's There's literally a thousand answers. They're blanking. It's like, uh, what's happening to me robert dowdy jr Maybe some that are less like popular pics Hmm Well, yeah, because I think people would know the obvious ones like in terms of just yeah, obviously these James monsters david glorian is alexis denis off Yeah fucking phenomenal actors, uh Anthony hopkins has passed. No, they said past living all past like you could choose these charlotte cox Ben kingsley Yeah, bill night. I like leonardo de capra. I think I think he's a good actor I don't think it's just the yelling. I think that he is a good actor I I it's just selective with me. Sometimes I'm like, man, he's doing great and sometimes like, uh, that was awkward Oh, christoph waltz He's bloody top tier uh micro fastbender is great too And james maccaboy because now i'm obviously thinking about him too because x-men those two are great William defoe Yep He was uh, I really liked him and when in that vincent van goff, uh film I like tom cruise a lot as a as an actor as a performer Yeah, or yeah um brian cranston We'd be doing a lot of actors. We should probably put some actresses in there as well We were talking about this the other day. We had some that pointed out to us. We're like, uh, well, I mean scarlett johansson. She's fucking great Uh, yeah, sir. Michelle gallo great and buffy. Yeah, all of these will be under their best stuff preferably um I know this. There's plenty. Olivia colman is excellent. Kate blanchett Yeah, um Emma Thompson Yeah Lawrence peel. I mean, she's probably fine. I just need to see her stuff. Well, we need I need to see more I've only seen her in one movie and I don't like that movie till the swinton I think she's pretty great. Yeah, it's a gurney weaver. Yeah. Yeah, definitely Uh, elizabeth olson is a great actress. Yeah There's a lot of answers for these. It's just hard to get access to them. Lena head of your Amelia clog if people use it probably The hiring here is the block of wood that's angry Margot Robbie. Yeah, she's another person super versatile actress. God damn use her properly Oh, yeah, charles dance is top tier right now if you're talking back to actors as well Lots of answers There's a there's a lot of it. Yeah, I mean, there are a lot of great actors and actresses Um It feels like it's a lot it I I don't know if it's more just being Intuned with like I guess the difference between good and bad actors But it feels like it is less common now to just encounter really bad actors who are really successful That just seems less common now. Yeah, it was maybe like in the 20 in the in the naughties Zoe Saldana's good as well. Yeah She is pretty great Oh, yeah, Daniela Melchior Melchior Melchior. I've always messed up. Yeah, um, Jake Gyllenhaal's great Yep, he was he was so good in night in nightcrawler. I I'd that was a great move Daniel Day-Lewis Yeah, that's that's probably I think Tom Holland's pretty good I I think the problem is that he well seems like right now a lot of what he's doing is just the big action movie So it'd be interesting to see him in a different role Of course, Al Pacino. Yeah Naturally Since the attack on rags meme, I'm really interested in what you would say about the show Many people praise the writing in its consistency high rag The what hello, I'm assuming they're referring to attack on titan then Yeah, I don't I don't know I I couldn't get past double fees first couple other sides um, I just Don't Yeah, I don't know Mel's the closest we got to someone who's watched a lot of that. I think great. Sorry. I I just completely faced out of my game Attack on Titan Wow I still haven't finished what is out there From the anime. I heard a lot of tizby stuff that happens in the manga At the end Like really bad character assassination stuff Uh, it's fun But I pretty much hate it all most of the characters Especially the main character can annoying. I don't know if it gets better, but yeah That's like the short version it's been a while since I've watched it. It's not fresh on my mind anymore. Clearly Yeah, I'll check it out at some point Don't you you hate it. No, I'll hate it never mind I don't I You guys probably hate it Um, I'll definitely check your refaps on lowkey. Will you work again with more editors to cover even more media now that you'd like to Dissect your own series. Uh, that's only gonna be in specific circumstances. I still want my projects to be essentially all my work, um, but if for any reason I'm in need of something happening a little bit faster and I can get someone who's uh Very familiar with the work so that for example freeing with black widow and the mcu so When I reference something like Winter soldier in civil war and blah blah blah blah blah. He can be like, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah Um Yeah, maybe in future, but still prefer to make it all myself Um, hello from ketchikan, alaska Uh, what's your opinion on the game xcom? Um, I never played it I think I have the controversial opinion of I never played the original ones, but I really like the new ones I really like xcom 2 I can outdo you for controversial. I don't like that. I was about to say Oh boy on this particular topic. Yeah, just yeah easy. I don't like them I don't remember you. I don't know that that's controversial actually to be honest I think it's more controversial to say you specifically like the new xcoms rather than none of them What don't you like about them? Uh, I gave them quite a few hours from what I remember on twitch. Um, screamed it didn't you? Yeah, I was the fun part for me was trying to um, best approach levels But then kept getting surprise attacked and I was told yeah, you're supposed to now just go back and Re-prepare xcom 2 I don't know which one I was playing at the time. Do you remember? I think I know what you played enemy unknown because that is a big problem with that game Where like you stumble across enemies and then you lose your opportunity to fight them so the system that they put in the second game is that generally in most missions You land in an area and you are considered concealed Which means that you're unknown and that gives you an opportunity to find enemies set up a positions All of your characters to set up ambushes After that point it becomes like the other game though where you just need to be careful How far ahead you're going? Why does springy think that's controversial? I've talked to people who really Who are big fans of the original games who really don't like the new ones under top hats hates the new xcom games um I I I need to be in a certain mood to play xcom games because they can be very very frustrating Oh, yeah, um, I guess it's the whole element of like I had 95 percent It's like that means you have a five percent chance of missing Like it's not, you know, like I think it's the whole thing. I'm 90 percent as a hundred percent in your head Um, well, I mean I when you miss five times in a row 95 percent. It does give a fucking ridiculous Yeah, that's just bad luck Oh, that's fun See that's what I mean It doesn't reward you for best utilizing your situation if you're like, okay, so I've got 95 chance No, it doesn't so if I got 95 chance and I'm like, I'm gonna fire three shots and I only need to hit one I'm good and you miss all three. You're like, right Yeah, that is so the reason why I think that the system works is because you know the things that you can do That drastically increase your chances now in a specific instance like that where you just got really really really unlucky It's like that is the nature of the game That's the agreement that you know as part of this process That you are trying to increase your odds and sometimes that doesn't work out. Is this argument like, yeah loads of games suck. I agree Why do you think that sucks as a mechanic? So when I'm right next to somebody with a shotgun, I have 95 chance of hitting and it misses That's frustrating. That's possible though of a 95 chance and you know that Well, I don't understand your argument you like so that I know it can be you should hit. Yeah, it shouldn't be 95% is my point That's bullshit Yeah, there are there are different reasons why it would decrease the chances It depends on what weapons you're using it depends on what the terrain is it depends on what the enemy type is These are all factors that you're aware of in the game That are just like relevance. Yeah, you can as the developer you can make whatever situation you want. I agree No, but what I'm saying is like yeah, I fucking hate it I really kind of like oh, I know that Why is it? I could use this argument for Pokemon. I'd be like you got a grind That's just how it works. You agreed. It's like yeah, I can still criticize it Well, I guess I'm asking like would you prefer that there is no system at all for percentages because sometimes you're not Gonna have why would you assume that's what I want If if you know that there is a percentage system and in this instance your percentage isn't 100% I don't what what what what are they supposed to do like make it 100% when you've got the requirements in place Like you are a soldier with massive experience and you have a shotgun and you're an inch away from somebody Yeah, but but when you do have the you can get 100 odds in xcom Like you can you absolutely can get 100 this change is nothing about what I've said Why are you not addressing what I'm talking about? You're talking about like a 95 I said so I give you a scenario and I tell you why it's shit You tell me that's possible. It's like thank you And then you tell me it's possible to have 100 so that doesn't matter This is literally what pissed me off in the game so much. So I stopped playing it The problem is that I'm thinking about because you said I'm next to somebody with a shotgun It's got 95 chance. Yeah, I don't remember that happening in that game That happened so much to me with many weapons that I stopped playing the game This is not something you're gonna be able to like erase my memory of That happened to me too Maybe because maybe that was more I it's been a lot longer since I played the first one I just remember that there were plenty of instances where like I'm right next to somebody. It's like, yeah It is 100 odds now with a shotgun Yeah I also happened in the same scenario so that's for some reason 95 percent and that's a you problem Oh, yeah, that's a me problem with my character can't aim straight so the I I guess the problem is that I'm thinking like So Do we never want instances where there'll be like 95 odds ever or what's how about we do it when it's suitable Well, what would be suitable for like not when you're point blank against somebody with a shotgun as a start Except the all of the times I remember playing those games if I'm next to someone with a shotgun There's like 100 odds So you want me to prove to you that it's possible because you don't believe me It probably is possible. I guess my question is how often did this happen often enough? They're still playing the game. I guess like this is too bullshit. I can't take this anymore that combined with the random Events where your entire team gets fucked over because enemies spawn right next to them behind them I'm trying to think it was like probably x-con one in this case. Yeah, that was the one that you played um You should give x-con. Yeah, someone said the percentages are misleading Yeah, and like it just punishes you for doing the most likely and obvious things And like yeah, I've had a bad experience with x-con But I gave it more than a fucking chance and I remember even people in my chat were turning on the game They were like, yeah, this doesn't seem fun at all. And I was like, it's not fucking fun That's one of the changes that I liked more From final fantasy tactics advance to grimoire of the rift is that they would change You'd get a bonus for attacking people behind them and in tactics advanced It was hit percentage and then they changed it to like the amount of damage that you do So it was still always advantageous to hit from the back, but it wasn't just like, uh, oh, yeah You just you just might flat out miss totally and it's a percentage chance Someone's mentioning darkest dungeon. It's like that could have that problem too, but it was I enjoyed dark dungeon way more than x-con Didn't wasn't didn't I've been a while since my darkest dungeon There were times in that game where like things could just go incredibly badly for you as well, right? Oh, yeah, there are issues with x-con, but more is argument that percentage means the player cannot optimize is wrong Anyone remember me saying this? No, that's not what that's not what he said The problem is that I'm just like I'm trying to I don't like to meet the mercy of your percentage chance in games and some games are obviously your worst culprits and others You are somewhat at the mercy of the percentage chance, but It is a game where there are clear methods of increasing the likelihood and of course factoring in Okay, this is unlikely. Do I want to put my character in this situation? I guess it would be a situation I'm thinking of where you've moved your character there and then you click the thing as like 95% chance. It's like, oh, shit Like I'm committed to this position now um I guess I'm I'm just wondering what would be like the best way to address that if there was some way of Communicating to the player more clearly that if you put your character in this position There's these your odds But I guess the issue becomes that there's environmental destruction and things like that some enemies move mid turn and it's like it becomes difficult to factor that in um I will say more you might enjoy rayman raving Not rayman No, yeah, he's right because that one has zero 50 and 100 chance Uh of uh, yeah, some people have recommended it. Yeah, and it's like it I guarantee you I'll enjoy mario and raving rabbits more so for its execution of that genre than xcom Even though x comes like known for being the top dog in that genre I guess the reason well xcom has more than just the squad stuff though There's also like the the the broad strategy Well, so if that's it depends on what oh, yeah I guess i'm specifically talking about that because of course like I doubt mario and rayman rabbits has the whole like team building and research and I don't know maybe it doesn't have like it doesn't have base It doesn't have those elements But you do have more playable characters than you ever have in a squad at a time And there is definitely trying to have synergy on the squad. It's just more that the system is zero percent Um if they're in like high cover and you can't see them 50 percent if they're in low cover And 100 percent if they uh like not in cover because you've ambushed them So stuff like that I find engaging like if I have a rifle and they're behind cover and I start spamming shooting It's like you've got a 40 chance of tagging them. I'm just like yeah, that's totally fair But when I've got like um any gun and I'm an inch away from them And it's like you might miss and then I miss every shot. It's Fucking like why am I even playing? Especially if this enemy is on like one hp and killing not killing them means you'd lose a guy because of that because the game was just like I guess um the thing is is that I think about those situations It's like I also need to remember the situations where the game favors me And like how rewarding it can be when it all just lines up incredibly well and it's like that's lucky But then it's like yeah, it's the trade-off. Sometimes I will get unlucky Like because ultimately if it's all percentages, it will balance out eventually I guess it just means that we've got a game where you have some incredible highs when things pan out well for you and then some It's a little bit lopsided though because when you ever going to be like it's got a 10 percent chance of hitting It's like I guess I'll engage that and you win It's like nobody's going to be choosing that regularly because that's just a really bad decision to make They're not going to be choosing that regularly But I mean god damn like if you're in if you're backed into the corner and then you just land a 10 percent shot and win It's like oh god that is like that's that's really thrilling when I don't know To me, I would just feel like well I got really fucking lucky there I guess all I would say is that there have been more well I mean if we're talking about the experience of playing it there have been instances where that happens It's like god damn. That's that's that's like oh Like it's sigh of relief Maybe I can help with comparing it to hearthstone right hearthstone is like a card game A lot of luck is involved if I have a 50 percent chance of something working and I play it I feel like that was more me If I'm about to like lose catastrophically and I pull the perfect card and win in like a 1 in 100 move I don't really feel like I won. I'm just like that was just fucking absurd luck I guess well Here's the things to think about though as well in terms of like the percentage chance when you're really close Is it not an element of the broader strategy to take into account that sometimes the strategy that you thought Was incorrect very likely to work out didn't and so like you always need to be taking account of that you need to be What are you checking in triple? So if you have like 10 options and the most likely option is the one you have to consider might just completely fail So what are we doing? Well, no, what I mean is like if you have if you have a situation where like let's say you've got your squad And there's an enemy there and you've got the guy with a shotgun the ranger you get him up close and it's like So this is this is almost certainly going to work But like in the event that it doesn't Is it is it not is there not an element there of like well, hey at least I've got my sniper set up in these positions So that that's that's like a a barrier Like an element to take care of in case things go wrong I never got that from x calm a lot of the time it would be like I moved everyone into position because I knew ahead of time that some guy's going to spawn where he does He spawns I sent my sniper to kill him. He misses a 95% chance My shotgun guy is right next to him. So he's the backup He shoots and misses and then he dies and I'm just like fucking love this game That's Really unlucky in those instances. Yeah um Yeah, I I I uh, I can I can totally I guess to be clear I can absolutely see why someone wouldn't enjoy playing a game like xcom I guess the problem is that I'm not sure that I'm ready to commit to the position that it's like There is something seriously wrong with this with this uh design choice I felt like it was just less to do with me more sort of do with if I luck out or if I'm get really bad luck I I guess it's like once you once you've committed to taking the shot Yeah, but everything all of the decisions that you make leading up to those moments are things that where it's like high ground What is their visibility? Have you taken out the cover with grenades and things like that? There are like a lot of elements that are working all at once. What if I maximized all of them and I still get that result Well, if you maximized all of them, you've got like either the best percentages that you possibly could have had or a hundred percent Yeah, and it still fails Well, if it's a hundred percent, it doesn't fail, but it just doesn't But if it's less than that, it's like and if it still fails, I guess it's just yeah, that's that sucks. That's It's just That's like a that's just a part of the game in terms of like leading into all of the other elements though I I'm not sure that I guess the problem is I don't see what xcom looks like If there aren't 90 or 85 percent or 80 percent Percentage chances with different weapons and different positions and certain enemy types Yeah, I think it's lopsided in terms of where they put them and how they put them Okay, yeah, um Yeah, fair enough. I know that I'm not alone because like it's it's a popular Mean yeah, I know it's like I'm right next to a minute misses. Okay Yeah I missed a hundred percent chance to hit an enemy unknown. I feel like that's got to be a glitch more so than like a baked in mechanic I'm just trying to think of instances where that has happened because I can't I can't think of them in the time that I've played it I definitely couldn't think of 95 chances that missed. Yeah, I remember those You're assuming you did everything you could it's funny because I had someone who was a big fan of xcom in the chat When we did I did I still kind of remember the level layout We did it like a hundred times over Specifically with safes coming because I wanted to see if it's possible to do this Without it constantly failing and like no matter what strategy where we put snipers and shotgunners and Whatever like support units in whatever places. It's just like the game was like no you lose. It's like, okay All right, I'm not saying that if it's a glitch, it's not a problem. I'm saying it's not a baked in aspect of the design Um, if it's a glitch, it's still a problem like you shouldn't be missing a hundred percent shots as far as I'm concerned And if you did it's like yeah, that's that's a that's actually a significant issue that would need to be fixed um Yeah, no, I You I think you would have more fun with right uh with the rabbits kingdom battle I said that with a smile on my face, but like you actually would I think it's it's a good game I mean I like it. I'm gonna enjoy more than xcom more than likely. Yeah yeah Did any of you play mercenaries playground of destruction? I I don't know what that is I don't know No What do you guys think about hitch cocks movies? I was introduced to rear window five years ago and loved it not the best But certainly my favorite. Uh, what's your favorite hitchcock movie also high rags? Hi, I think the only one I've actually seen is the birds mine's gonna be psycho I Feel like I need to watch more hitchcock films I'm uh, I I feel like I have an embarrassingly low number of hitchcock films. I've seen Um, I'm gonna be lower than I've actually seen the movie hitchcock. We're actually hopkins plays hitchcock Oh boy, I can't remember how good it was but I remember enjoying it. So there's that So, uh, some people are saying in chat that that an issue with xcom was that sometimes it would round up to 100 When it was actually 99 like ah Yeah, 99 xcom is practically a miss so you're gonna go be careful Well, practically. Hey, come on. It's it's no It's it's almost certainly going to hit like almost all of the time It was never all of the time like this is that that was the problem with the 95 plus percentages The fact that I see 95 and I worry like I don't know What the hell? I know that it's a meme though is like 90. It's basically a hundred It's kind of just amusing because that's how our brains work is like humans. It's like, yeah 90 percent that's like the sure thing I mean, it's it's basically a sure thing more likely to hit the miss. That's like obviously the the obvious I don't want the psychology. I just find it amusing because it is not like a guaranteed hit at all No, yeah, neither is 99.9, but I mean we're getting to absurdities at that point, right? It's just like wait that missed. Okay. Wow I guess it's um And then of course this system runs in tandem to the actual animations and and stuff on screen But it's never really connects Like a sniper with a wide view and an easy shot and it's like 40 percent. You're like, how is that 40 percent? Well, I mean I know the x-com 2 was a lot more helpful and that there was I can't remember if the first game had it But in second there was just a tab that gives you specific detailed information on why Your percentage is what it is. So it'll be like negative 20 percent high cover Like negative 20 suppressed plus 20 percent like ideal condition stuff like that that would um make it more um evidence What is wrong and and then that helps give you an idea of like what you can do to improve your odds I guess it's just for me. I remember having a really I remember being incredibly tense while playing x-com Like it gave me a feeling that um that I really enjoyed of like All right, I'm gonna commit to this decision and then like the suspense of waiting to see what happens after you've done all of uh all of your uh stuff Yeah, I felt mostly cheated. Yeah, I gave up Yeah, fair enough But I I put a lot of hours into it because I I heard nothing but praise from many people that I know and trust and like I said the The atmosphere on the stream it just kept going down because I was just like Oh, I did that and now this happens, right? Okay And just like I'm pretty sure there's clips made of just like You know the amount of time someone runs up to an alien with a shotgun to their neck and it's like miss Um Don't lie to me more. You just don't want to do it because it's about hitler. What's your problem with hitler, huh? Um, yeah, I wasn't a fan of his artwork. I sort of a shit Ooh, he wouldn't like that Hitler wouldn't like it He gets very angry when you criticize his art. Yeah, I've heard he does all kinds of things I know that one of the elements I'm still thinking about one of the things that is a really fun aspect of it that I liked is just the idea of Cultivating this squad of these characters that are highly customizable, especially into like super customizable. That's pretty much what sold me on it You can write your own little biographies for them You can change everything about them give them nationalities history's backgrounds and you just start getting really attached to them Of course if they die, it's like oh that hurts like that really hurts. That's a lot of investment gone Um, then again save scum save like There are a lot of quick saving in that game. I will say lot of quick saving Yeah, and that was probably what made it worse for me was like I would be like I'm I'm on board with this I will play your game. I will make my characters and get invested in them and then they all get wiped out I'm like, no, I didn't there was that that wasn't really fair. I don't feel the it would just be like watching fucking You know infinity war Thanos arrives and then they all just fall over and die from heart attacks It's like well, it's not impossible. They could all have heart attacks. I'm like, I mean, yeah Um, I'm interested in everyone's opinions on charlie kaufman movies I'm afraid I don't know a many off hand I remember I'm not sure By the way, it looks like your your take was not that controversial at all It seems like a lot of people have similar sentiments towards the new xcom games Well, if if mine's been sequestered to one xcom games That's the one I played and that's one that's known for having this then yeah, I wouldn't be that hard enemy unknown has I I yeah, I would say that The two made some meaningful steps trying to dress those the main one being you go forward Oh, you've triggered the enemies and now they're ready to screw with you Like just getting rid of that and actually letting you set up ambushes Yeah, I started really started wanting to be like I'd want to trigger the whole map So I can see where what I'm going to be dealing with and then reset an approach instead of being like Now you have to deal with this and then it kills someone in their first turn you're like, oh I guess um How do you feel about that being because it is a system that continues after you like if you play an xcom 2 You have that opportunity at the beginning of most missions sometimes you you don't have that option But once you once you've revealed yourself, that's it now It's back to the normal thing of be careful like how far ahead you go I'd have to play it I guess because I think enemy unknowns the only one I have played I I'm not even sure anymore It was you played enemy unknown. That's there are only two of them of the new ones You know, that's why I stopped playing magic the gathering is because I was just sick of losing games Because I didn't draw the right amount of mana And that is so goddamn frustrating when you you go out you drive your fizzle you drive your ass to a place You sit there you pay the thing to get in You open your cards you put them all together You sit down and play with someone and you just get fucking You just just screwed over Because you didn't draw lands and you're just sitting there every turn just I guess I can't do anything So I that's why that that is the reason I stopped playing And I never regret it Oh People were saying in chat Kaufman was I'm thinking of ending things. So yeah, not a great first impression Um I was about to say I'm pretty sure why best loves coffee. I couldn't remember which is movies were so Yeah, we were not impressed with I'm thinking of ending things No, I'd have to look at the rest of library. It was miserable. It was miserable. Not a fun time What a one of the worst fucking experiences I've ever had with the film I think the problem for us was about ending things Honestly part of it was just the fact that we we got it so quick that we were just bored Yeah, it was just such pretentious art shit and it's like no we get it. What the fuck You're wasting my time. Why is this taking so long? Did you just want to jerk off onto a screen? Oh I hated it. I love how much this would be torture for why I'm asked to hear Like no, we got it. That's the thing. We get it. It was really clear We get it No, it did not escape us What a bunch of miserable moments that was in a massive string This I really roll this out. But what I will say is it wasn't for me. It was it was not for me It reminded me of how much I love coherent plots I like I like good story structure coherent plots And when we start to get into these weird, is it real? Is it not real stuff? You're starting to lose me It can be done fine, of course, but Generally, if I have to choose between the two, I'm fucking going with a clear coherent real plot anytime Um bad act bad act is less common now fring el nor Or Well, like big productions Like I I agree with him. I feel like we're uh, we're getting better in that way There's like an upward trend like the skill floor has been thinking and to be honest with you Using her as an example. It's like we all know why she's there Like it's not hard to figure out and how many actors can you say that about? They're like, oh, they're acting so bad because oftentimes these days, they're both attractive and good at their job Yeah She um, you know You know You know Aileen is a 10 out of 10 The only issue I can find with it is Ripley taking the cat box with her when she's rushing to try and save parker and lambit Oh, it's not 10 out of 10 then I was gonna say like Go ahead. Go ahead. Just that it'll be weird to say that you think you found an issue But it's also a 10 out of 10. It's like I doesn't know I assume that's how you go for yeah, go ahead Right right here. Yeah, say I was thinking about I'm thinking of any things remember when we watched it Remember when there was a spooky basement door and we were so excited We were so excited Like all that door that thorns can come up again It looks scary because it was all scratched and shit and we're like, oh man, that's that's a spooky door I am so excited to see what they do with that door and it was just like Well for me it was like Oh, it's it's not it's not actually it's a it represents something probably a memory of part of his brain or his history And she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah I was so ready to see like a really cool bit of imagery or something really interesting or something just Interesting. Yeah, that would have been great, but fuck I didn't do anything with that. I was so Uh See that's our problem though. We can't deal with a story that isn't about anything like We need something to happen. Well, we've tried to make it clear before to me. It's explicitly subtext and I don't find that impressive I get bored Yeah, if anything can be figurative for fucking anything and nothing has to make sense because it means something in this weird Metaphysical sort of way I can do that. Anyone could do that. I'm not impressed by it. I don't think it's impressive I don't think it's interesting really There's very little for me to latch on to because I live in a world of text and subtext Um, this world of subtext. I don't understand it. It doesn't even feel like a dream. It's just like this weird place Yeah, not what I'm into Certainly not what I'm into Um for reference, of course, because I think I think it would just be too easy to compare it's like the father It's like, yeah a film that Actually runs entirely on it's on like a surface level like it all makes sense on the surface if you take it as a He's in his house and he just fails to remember exactly what it looks like whatever but A lot of the um, like certain doors leading to certain places or what people say and what people do Depending on how they look. I don't know. It felt like it was much more coherent or at least has a um A surface level that can then be moved past while Like isn't it like I'm thinking of any things. It's like he walks into the On and there's like a dead animal immediately and he's like staring at it I think like when we were watching it, I was like that's gonna like represent him or something Look this represents somebody somewhere in some way. Yeah, and I don't know like it's gonna do right It'll represent something Doesn't make Like turns into a cartoon and starts talking and I'm like What what what Alice in wonderland horseshit have we stumbled into And there was that dance And the gym I don't remember. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh fuck. Yeah, I remember it's supposed to be like a retelling of the The history but through that. Yeah, and it's just It's it's weird. What's going on That's all it's weird So slow in terms of like it felt like 10 hours, but it was only two I remember when we realized that the the car scene had only taken up like 15 minutes All that opening car stain I think we were like surely I think I was saying like surely they have to be going somewhere They have to arrive at a destination eventually like they they are traversing space They they eventually will be someplace and they will get out of the car They will one day exit this car surely and things will occur And then they did and it felt like that was the first act break But we were only like 15 20 minutes in then there was still an hour and a 40 minutes left Someone said but there's still value in approaching a story that way We all shown the subtext and meant to interpret what the text is So from what I remember the text in that film is he's a janitor and he's thinking about his life He's thinking of anything that would be the text Oh my god, that's like the yeah, like that's that's it Um, I mean there's value to it if it has value to you sure it's just what I want to watch Definitely not what I want Chad congratulating me I sort of like to do like 17,000 more than lost runs It's but I finished one that's accomplishment in itself 17,000. Oh boy. That's a lot more to do A five notes on there now Yeah, I'm watching some footage of Forza horizon five right now And um, I remember when like I was really impressed by Gran Turismo 4's graphics. I thought they were like incredible It's like man racing games like nowadays. Jeez. Yeah It's like basically it's these cars are approaching photo realistic very quickly He's cool Yeah, no those those Forza horizon games. I remember I remember playing two I thought that game was a lot of fun. I was going to play three because it was set in Australia But I never got around to it and then Yeah I think I will play fun Phoenix point fixes the percentage chance to hit the x-com to Chance to hit that x-com had but it's still a little rough and I would give it some time before you tried it Yeah, phoenix point. That was the the one that was crowdfunded I believe and I remember that because it got crowdfunded and then it went epic game store exclusive for a year and people like Hey, I wanted I was going to play it on steam. I backed it. It's like, yeah, sorry. It's just way to year Man Maybe something changed between now and then but um, yeah Uh, there are 100 ways to deal damage and like nades in x-com I mean sometimes your weapons will will be a hundred percent. It'll depend but The circumstances didn't seem fair to me like Putting myself in positions where I was just like why isn't this working? Are we talking just vanilla x-com because forget all about the argument over the rng vanilla just doesn't have enough content You need at least the long-war mod Um, long wars have been harder though Long wars harder, yes I tried it once and it was like I'm I will say like base x-com is like 20 to 30 hours to play through I think that's a good chunk of time to spend on like one campaign Well, when you get through a whole campaign without dying Yeah, that's uh, because I never pulled it off. I died in the last mission and almost I had no soldiers left gg there Because I the safe scum which I regretted then there Now get better noob later What do they call this just hardcore? perma death Um, well, it all has perma death the whole the whole game Yeah, this is the one where it saves after every turn and you can oh, yeah, it locks you in Um, so that you don't do what I often do which is like no, I I I don't accept this death I'm gonna go back I do wonder though when when you think about Like the legitimacy of that because I think about a lot of stealth games and quick saving is just that is just a fundamental part of a lot of stealth games is I am here now. I'm not doing all of that again And if I yeah, I would finish there just flat out games I would not finish like dishonored if you were not allowed to Or I don't know it's just a game I'm anything from day six to anything where I'm just like man if If I if this doesn't go right for whatever reason And I don't even know if it's my fault or not or if the game does something wonky Or if I just couldn't have possibly have known something and something bad happens And I just have to do all of that shit again. Yeah, then I just fuck this I have I have better things to do with my life I think that there is a it's cool to have that as a mode But what I would say is that I don't think that there is anything wrong with And I say this because it's kind of how I play stealth games like of I've been detected. Nope I'm doing it still. I this is these are the parameters. I've said if I've been detected I have this is my fail state I'm starting. Yes. Yeah, I did like oh, well, I accidentally killed someone day sex. No, we're reloading We're trying it again. I'm not gonna exactly not gonna start the whole goddamn game over again I'm just gonna redo this one bit and get it right Yeah, I think that's Totally fair. I I do wonder about a that new death loop where that's a game where if you die It it resets the whole day like that that is the game Um, and you have to try and take out all light targets in one playthrough without dying um That'll be interesting to see like if there is any save Ways to sort of save scum around those challenges Or if that's not in the spirit of that game because death as a mechanic resetting the day is baked into it Um XCOM has saved scum system rolls a set for tune. You will always have the same result after reload Well only only if you do the same action. Uh, yeah the same action. I think yeah Um, well, you're telling me that god came down and stopped these motherfucking bullets bringy. That's exactly what I'm saying Oh references Yeah No starcraft 3 since the story is pretty wrapped up. They need a brand new storyline Oh, no, then have to do that job. Fuck. I was gonna say That should be fine, right? I can handle that. You know, I just yeah, I don't and plus I'm just gonna be honest. I don't know how much I really care about the story I I don't mind a campaign, but you don't have to give me some crazy story Just give me a bullshit excuse why three factions are fighting in space and we're good It's kind of the battlefield 2042 thing, right? We don't care about the context like there is context, but you don't really care about that Like it's a multiplayer game Um, I mean, I'm gonna fold them, you know, given good reason, but Yeah, exactly I guess it's interesting to think about how it's changed because when titanfall came out like people that was a big That was a big point of criticism is there is no campaign. There was no single player mode Um, and then titanfall 2 had a great one, but if it didn't I don't know that that's a point of criticism Ness like necessarily that a game doesn't have a campaign mode um I mean call of duty at this point. You gotta wonder like what what exactly are you getting out of these campaigns anymore? Um Maybe that new call of duty by the way, I don't know Don't look that impressive to me. I haven't even looked into it. It looks like shit It looks like what I don't like that they do with the world war two games now Where it seems really sanitized and safe in a way that world war wasn't Yeah, it's like wacky zany weirdness. I'm like, uh, well, so from what I understand Call of duty vanguard is world war two But it's meant to be about the rise of special forces as just a thing that existed in militaries And I guess that's my problem is that's what call of duty has been for the last decade special forces You are like the most impressive coolest soldier there is You can never just be a normal guy in this situation um And it's funny because Call of duty world war two is like no, you're just you're just like a private in the in the in the in the first It's like, oh, yeah the private who derail who fucking gets a whole god damn train off of its rails and crashes to everything The soldier who was instrumental in helping with the with the the liberation of paris the soldier who was influential In finding intel that gets america across the rine Like oh, yeah, you're just a normal soldier, huh? And it's interesting to think about because it's like well in in call of duty world war You play as the russian soldier who puts the the flag uh on on the Reichstag Yeah at the end. Yeah at the very end Also, that's something that any russian soldier could have done It's just any what's the story of that one russian soldier who was you happen to be the one to do that? You know, I mean the through line of world war is You are like a great soldier of this country and as long as you're alive the spirit of russia can't be broken But but you are not that significant really in this world. You were just another soldier amongst many Um Yeah, I I don't know this new one I guess I am happy that uh that they are trying to do more than just the western front Like the the the shtick here is that every front is a part of it and I'm pretty sure that australians are featured in uh in in the african campaign and it's like oh man, that's uh What is australians in battlefield one? That's a uh whether Yeah Oh in the dlc. Yeah, because I remember they were in the campaign and I was really upset that they weren't a multiplayer because World war one that was a that was an important one for us um It's it's pretty much was the forging of the national identity But yeah, I uh having australians in in north africa. It's like oh boy to brook. Are we doing to brook? That that could be cool But then again, it's like oh special forces. It's like all right Like I'm not opposed to this but you just keep doing it like because you know Yeah They've they finally took people's advice though russian Women sniper. It's like yeah, that was the way to do it like finally I think it was some gameplay someone had posted a vanguard and it just looked it looks generic horrific Oh, oh bad. Oh boy. Yeah, it does It just looks terrible like this ultra fast time to kill Oh multiplayer right when you get shot The gun bounces around weird people die in a fucking millisecond and then a bunch of shit falls out of their body And I was like this looks Horrific, why would anyone play this garbage looks like a mobile game? I have heard many bad things about vanguard before it was announced The as the story goes disaster behind the scenes in terms of development Like not ready to go is is is the uh seems to be the consensus. Let me see. I want to see this Oh, yeah, it just looks like It oh, man. It looks like they've just wholesale Damn time to kill is like nothing. It's a meal. It's like a fucking millisecond. Look at these scopes Why is there a red dot sight? It's world war two It's custom world war two No, what are these weapons? ah Look tiny maps like The time to kill is insanely low Yeah Yeah, I mean it's call of duty, you know, it's uh Um, what what more can you know battlefield 2042 looks like that's where it's at A couple of hours behind in the stream right now I just wanted to add that the bit about gming that I'm in the process of running a pathfinder game in which I made the entire world from scratch Um They've got a second one Just want to say that I'd never had the confidence to make one of this scale without the influence from this podcast level You guys accept chase great Well, I'm really glad you were able to do that. I hope it all goes well Yeah, I hope it goes well. It sounds like a lot of fun. I hope it works out I know my plan is to start small so Darth Maul My plan is to start is to Darth Maul. That is my plan My first pathfinder game will be a Darth Maul origin story Yeah, there's been Bit some balls of pushback about the whole fan fictional or whatever even to the point of DM It's just like yeah, make your own thing seriously Do it. Oh, yeah, you can do it. That's that's so cool. Yeah It's gonna be great. You'll call it star fights Star Wars It'll be in the future, but maybe in the past Who knows last doors Uh, what showed theme right despite it being bad elsewhere Oh Despite it being bad elsewhere like they're on point with theme, but they're not with mostly everything else Um, honestly, I don't think about theme that much, but I bet a lot of stuff does that Where it's like, oh, but the theme's good. Yeah, but it's think of all the super super basic um Themes that there are like don't lie be good, you know stuff like that, but you're not like war bad Yeah, yeah This is like you could probably have a film or story that's like look at the horrors of war But then also have that kind of shitty characters or bad characterization of bad plot lines The theme is intact in terms of like, you know war is hell. You're like, yes, it is Yeah, war sure as shit. Um, can I play the game now? Or watch the movie Yeah, I just want to I don't need lots of stone Not tlj. Yeah Uh, oh, yeah, so if Dr. Strange and Peter start the multiverse then what was the point of sylvie killing kang and thus the entire show I don't think they start the multiverse. It seems to be that they're tangling it all up That's probably what we're supposed to think Uh fringe, how do you like the australia's authoritarian lockdowns? I don't want to like talk about that kind of stuff Very well By not enough content. I was talking about campaign length, but rather I was talking about campaign length But rather stuff to do and mechanics and items to use in those 30 hours vanilla was incredibly streamlined in that regard Um, I think that's fair. Um, there were Because xcom 2 the main change was that instead of being able to pick a base in a certain um in a certain Region you have a ship that can just fly around all over the place And it's like, yeah, that that does kind of remove certain choice. Um Yeah, I I I guess uh, I I mean, I don't I don't stand to to look Man, that's not coming out right You don't really lose anything from having more options to work within this instance I think giving them different weapons to use and Different uh different things that you can build up in your base stuff like that Probably a lot of mods though as you mentioned that can help improve that I guess I'm interested to think because um This is this is this feels topical Because pharax is making midnight suns, which I'm guessing is going to be an xcom like game with marvel characters Now that sounds really cool. And I really want to see what that game looks like Um, I feel like that could be really fun xcom But like with wolverine and ghost rider and blade and stuff that sounds awesome Midnight suns so they come out when it's all dark and spooky, huh? Yes, that's right. They uh, the spooky they're like the the avengers, but for edgy like Like metal metal avengers kind of um Mel's so itchy No, I guess that means that the deal Maybe the is is the deal like with square enix is that starting to fall through now because for axis and that's like 2k They're publishing it Not square enix and imagine if it turns out to be like far and away the best one that's come out in a while Man, what do we uh, what do we do over there? And uh Wow because avengers did not make its money back and I will say Considering that in order to get avengers we lost asex Like I kind of I'm not upset about that Um, you're not upset about that I'm not upset that it didn't that it didn't do well. Oh, right. Sorry. That's like because it's like man. Hopefully that means, um That means that we can get dais ex back. We can finish off adam jensen's little yawn Yeah Fringy baby fringy didn't ask for this. No No, I didn't ask for this. That was uh, that was that was the meme I'm pretty sure I tweeted something like that when I found out it was getting put on hold Yeah, didn't ask for this And I know that I know that the voice actor for adam jensen is like super on board to come back So it's like, yeah, you you can do this. You can absolutely do this And like frankly dais ex has been like one of the one of the better more reliable games, especially Well, not especially but like considering for for what was kind of a reboot. It's been super reliable in terms of quality Yeah Oh, they do that automatically nice Cool cool I actually like the trailer, but I'm cautiously optimistic about the film itself. Let's hope it's good fingers crossed buddha fans Yeah, um, yeah I have all the the the hope definitely if if I could make a film good Like it would be nice if this one was good Like it might give us a bit of a breath of like, oh my god. The mcu isn't dead Maybe um Long war greatly expanded thing Particularly in grand strategy aspect. You had to plan your long-term strategy around things like enemies having echo rounds You know what now that because I'm I think I'm not sure if I tried it And maybe that is something that I need to try before I can keep talking about it But uh, I that I might I might install that mod try long war for x comes through And oh and somebody said it has it wasn't that long since day sex came out day sex man kind of I did came out five years ago So that is as long a gap there was between that and human revolution. It has been a while It's sledgehammer games as well as a card game. What else can you expect? Yeah Well, and they're being assisted in development with vanguard to laugh my ass off Yeah, so vanguard is As the story goes Um, there's been issues at sledgehammer if they lost like the studio heads and This was meant to be the 2020 cod But obviously that didn't pan out and then try arc had to do black ops cold war And it seems to kind of show Um from what I've heard. So yeah, not not a great era for cod damn Oh, is it not a great era? I mean, I say great era. It's like it hasn't been for a long time at this stage Yeah, I don't know in the last like real good one was I like modern warfare But I remember modern warfare having like serious issues when it came out the maps the maps pickadilly the worst History The absolute worst map, you know, you're in trouble with like everyone's leaving the game when it starts up. It's like Yeah, yep You might just get it out of the rotation to lead it get rid of it It would have been funny as an experiment. They have, you know, regular mode and then Regular mode negative pickadilly. It's just like that's the only map is not in it. They're just testing popularity You wonder what happened in testing like when something that bad is made and it just like makes it into the game It's like, well, we have to have x number of maps Well, I mean, I think it's I remember in modern warfare 3 there was a map called downfall Which was like awful and it it so rarely came up in the playlist Like nobody liked it. It was it was really crappy. But then you yeah, you ask how did it get in the game? Yeah, nobody noticed it's out when you were testing it before you'd put textures and everything You were just running around a weird gray blob of a map playing it I have to wonder like Sometimes it feels like you have to have to make a really bad map like a foul map You had to you kind of had to do that on papers a little bit But like like how do you accidentally make it so fucking bad when? Base understanding of maps. He's just like and then playing them. You're just like, how did you do this? Maybe somebody did it You feel bad to tell that guy like it was his first map and he really screwed it up and You just didn't want to hurt his feelings It is interesting to think about with cod as well when there are less variables for them to deal with Call of Duty has less variables and say battlefield And battlefield doesn't like I can't think of maps in battlefield The more recent ones anyway where it's like dude, this sucks. I never want to play it ever Downturn that map in model 53. Yeah I think I said downfall A nuke town is another one that kind of just got used so much that I'm sick of it Yeah, I really liked it in the beginning But I was like, oh, we know we have nuke town halloween. It's like yeah, fuck off. Yeah It's the same map Fucking pumpkins Just want to play in these people just people just want to play in a tiny room Where they could spawn in and in two seconds see an enemy And maybe this game they'll get a quintuple kill for their Whatever montage. Well, I mean remember it was so bad Even in the first black ops that they disabled your ability to throw grenades for like the first five seconds Because it was really easy to cock a grenade throw it and kill like three people because they're only I mean that that's like the quintessential three lanes but in an incredibly tight space um And I remember rust kind of has the same issues to shipment is just chaos But like at least there's no pretense with shipment. This is just chaos. It's nonsense Nuke town is almost like trying to be kind of a real map But it's not World at war equals goat. They land their blood. Uh, uh I I love world at war Does seem to be pretty popular in retrospect. Like a lot of people like yeah, it was a good boy Choose multiplayer wise, but generally I I liked it. I like better campaigns I liked I just I liked it in general Which for a cod game is saying a lot We are the voice actors. He had keepers Sutherland was um was the american he Roboc he he played Roboc and uh resnov obviously gary oldman beautiful Yeah, very very good Yeah, I think that was uh, that was that was it feels like one of the the The more prominent introductions probably for a lot of people to like the pacific theater and I guess the nature of it Um It was definitely more unconventional sort of choices in terms of like fronts and battles to pick Like silo heights. How many people were familiar with that battle? Silo green Never heard of that one People in shower all the way over that one uh Yeah, I always liked world of war and black ops. You get sam wheelington's and I like black ops Yes, he was in that one and uh ed ed uh harris was um was uh, he was michael keaton played uh played um Why am I blanking Can't believe it. I know his name Michael hudson hudson no hudson the character hudson. That's right uh That's I'm trying to think of and um ice tea played uh wait. No, it was ice cube played bowman Which of the ice people was it? Ice man played him. Yeah The ice man cometh That was that was a cool one as well in just terms of It was trying to be more of an action movie, but it was still unconventional I mean, I guess like if you're familiar with vietnam hoist city and stuff like that is is known in the ted offensive but um like vocudo um And and fave pigs and stuff like that Yeah, it was neat pay of pigs Cole cologne city was that was an amazing set piece um God that was a great mission Like once you get out on the rooftops and the plane is flying overhead. It's like oh man call of duty back in the day Hey, it's the thing. It still had that stigma But even then they just you could just feel like y'all are actually kind of Trying Yeah Yeah, that was an impression like black ops feels like a cool neat idea for for a campaign It's like man Let's let's use like the paranoia and the and the espionage elements of the cold war Tell this big story about you know chemical weapons and secret missions stuff like that and and the historical figures like the pentagon meeting JFK and then the zombies Yeah, dude that opening zombies cutscene one of the best cutscenes in video game history possibly Someone's breaking in it's just a storm dick settle down The storm is breaking and just nonchalantly Kennedy's like zombies gentlemen I was like this calls for a stalwart like a great um retaliation gentlemen lock and load For no Castro McNamara there with anything to say to rouse your humble troops Do not pray for easy lives my friends pray to be stronger men Oh, god, they're shotguns like nixon does this funny little post Favorite I never like through that now What's that sir? You know, I'm not a huge fan of zombies in general as a thing. I prefer campaign multiplayer Yeah, I never not see zombies was never the zombie modes. I never liked I liked it up until I understood everything that they Just just up until you've played it enough that you understand it all and then you're like, well I'm done because like it just goes on forever sort of things. It's just like, yeah They got how your starter weapons would just become anemic and worthless I just I hate that in games everything became anemic and worthless if you went on long enough Like even the most powerful weapons would be shit That's the way they did it. It wasn't particularly uh Mind-blowing in terms of what other horde games have achieved. They didn't really do a lot. It was Ironically, it was more than novelty at first and then they just kind of really never evolved past the novelty that much If you remember there was that weird, um Was it black ops 2 where they had like the train that you get on and it moves to different parts of a map and stuff The bus the bus. Yeah, I think I think what you just said may be contentious because I know that black ops zombies Like changed substantially as it kept going on across the core elements for the same But like once they're welcome to fight me on it. I was I was obsessed with world of war black ops zombies I know it better than what about most people might what about like two and three is what i'm saying in terms of the Oh, well, so I was referencing to just then with the the bus right it did try to change it up because Black ops like because it was shinanuma and duris or deris that were like the more popular zombie maps for world of war And they added the pack of punch and stuff And the maps were just bigger and they had interactions and stuff and it was like, yeah, this is cool And um, I remember the moon one was cool. The appeal Essentially just became can you beat your prior record? That's about it Yeah, as soon as you're really good at it shinanuma, um was my favorite because there was a glitch on it on 360 I think they wiped out on pc where you could get infinite weaponry and what what that means more so is you still have to buy them And you know in them But you wouldn't only hold two weapons. You'd hold more which honestly like should have just been a feature in the game Because like it's Eventually your weapons become so shit that having the entire weapon set from the whole game Is kind of like awesome because you're just cycling through them all and just using them because you don't reload them all until the the round mid-part It was more arcadey to do that for sure Yeah In a good way and then of course, uh deris had the pack up that was what the the introduced pack of punch in We were just it's the weapon but upgraded and even the initial pistol I think if you upgraded that becomes a grenade launcher that was particularly powerful. So it's like, you know They seem to be an attempt to try and extend it all but they still have the same problem It only ever got to the point where your weapons were worthless And I don't know if that had been solved if they had had a boss at round 100 or whatever But maybe they should have experimented with that um in the earlier ones to see how people liked it Yeah, if it's like it's the worst. It's one of the worst things in Games really when it comes to difficulty increases. I was like, we're just going to change the number on the enemy health so Yeah Instead of making them smarter. I guess with zombies. That's yeah, they don't have new moves They don't have new abilities. There's not different kinds or types Or anything like that. It's just yeah, you just have to shoot them a lot more now And that's yeah It's well, I mean it was the issue I had with destiny god I that game haunts my nightmares sometimes when I think about like One of those strikes we had to fight the big fat guy on I think it was on mars or something and Like you just unload rounds into him for 30 minutes And all I'm doing is running around and jumping around. There's nothing difficult about this. It's just It's just I need to hold the trigger for long enough and make sure I get enough ammo to hold the trigger for long enough to kill it It's just not this is the most exciting parts of zombie gameplay When I was really really good at it was not actually the parts where you've all got your ammo and you hunker down You would defend it's when someone runs out of ammo and they need to go get more That's when it gets interesting. It's just like you've got to actually dodge the zombies You got to kite them properly. You got to do this that it's a all to get back to sitting in the corner and shooting and it's like Yeah, I guess yeah Just not fun it definitely makes some of the um Maps as I really do like killing floor two a lot. It does a lot of great stuff So there are some maps where there's like the clear correct places to be But yeah, and then it's good enough to where you can get disrupted and you have to start You might end up splitting off and running around the place and Yeah It's why stuff like vermin tide and left for dead Have a good formula because you'll be moved you'll have to move around and then you'll have the moments where you have to defend Places and it's just where are we right now to defend against this horde that's coming in? This is probably the best place, you know, let's do it. Yeah And I those games can get a little too luck based sometimes, but overall quite good favorite breaking bad episode Ozzy man just feels like the obvious choice, but that's for a reason. Yeah, it's a it's a huge payoff that episode It would be the one I would pick and I do feel bad. I'm just like, I'm sorry. Sorry. It's not a more interesting pick. I'm sorry Nothing I could do Activision said they would never do any rts in the future since its market is too niche Thus not good for shareholders main reason why many og members of blizzard left as well Why warcraft 3 reforge was a horrible flop, etc Right and that probably not even wrong about that in terms of just pure cold. Well No, because what about like civilization that game sells millions of copies every time you think it's a matter of Like surely it's just a matter of trying to get it like how do you get it to the mainstream? What have you got to do? because I don't know. It felt like a one-point RTS is was super popular At least I think it's a matter of markets Maybe because like there are certain markets where these games are more popular Like I imagine I think in europe probably rts is more popular. I don't know And I guess it's a matter of how well can we monetize an rts versus a uh, a shooter? Yeah What you can't just reach out You think they could reskin factions just reskin different things or that's probably a lot more work than just a skin for a gun I would imagine. Well, maybe um, you can charge more for it Maybe as a result and if they're like individual fidelity of each skin doesn't have to be nearly as much Like have you all played paladins? No, or is that like to call it better overwatch? um How am I getting that phone call? Give me a second I've heard of paladins though. Uh, yeah, I remember wasn't it the one that got btfo'd by The other games in its genre or is it still going? It was the one that dunking it was like the first video I saw from donkey where he was comparing paladins to overwatch because they're very similar in terms of the Well similar in in ways that seem clear initially, maybe not so in terms of Uh, oh boy I don't you think you'd water butte if you're on the phone Yeah Um Paladins is still on steam. So it's still going Good for it. I don't make me say paladins reached a point. I've watched. I've never played it. So I don't know I think I played when it wasn't beta Maybe I remember playing it at some point beta Yeah, right Well fair enough, um Rags will come back eventually and talk about paladins, but I guess we'll for now we'll move a little bit Maybe the mcu isn't dead one good film does not make a healthy mcu Well, but that doesn't mean it's dead, right? If it's dead It's still going in the life Yeah, like all I'm saying is that means that there's still a potential for good content Which is genuinely a concern right now, which sucks Um, so, you know how morning metal inciting incident of the prestige Um If have gaming deep rock galactic wane some fun four player bug shooting pickaxe swinging co-op I'm not familiar is it? I did a bunch of friend hosts. Uh, we don't have to lie kind of Which part of the game were the friends the friends? That game is okay. I played alone a bit Um, wait they tangled it up. What does that mean? So is everyone just contributing to this giant mess? So this is going on with spider-man starts. Fuck Um by tangled I just mean they're pulling thing like combining universes and pulling things into each other That's what I'm assuming is happening Whereas in low-key it seemed that there was this like there's still you can travel between them Or that there's a difference between them that there were walls between them. Let's say, I don't know But we know frighteningly little Yeah Um Bring what do you think about a will war two game set in australian theater of the pacific? What kind of game do you think it would be also high racks? um So I I when you say australian part of the pacific did I'm guessing you're talking about mainly the the stuff that we were more engaged in So big stuff in like solomonite islands kakota I guess I guess I could imagine that being almost like a kind of kind of very I guess when you think about If you were doing it now probably be similar to the the pacific part of of uh World at war. I think I think I like the idea of basically leading into like yeah dense jungle terrain maybe stealth elements as well Or um, you know, like it's like a long campaign set over the course of only like one or two battles And so you just have multiple elements of having to deal with I guess it depends on what type of game if it was a shooter that would be what it was But you could do like a strategy game where you have to take a lot more consideration for resources in this specific instance the morale of the troops um Australia is in the pacific well, I mean in the same way that north america is in the atlantic in the pacific sure Um, but yeah, I I mean, I'd be more interested in seeing more world war two stuff that uh that shows the australian perspective uh Talking about rps not movies my friend introduced a new character out of nowhere who effectively retcons such recontextualized the main villain And the villain was a character that had been well established for six irl years with no Hint of this new guy all because the apia didn't want them To be a villain anymore. I pointed this out saying it was A good chance for an actual character out instead of a retcom, but he blew me off Um that sucks It feels like there's something that can you not control that though like you can just be like no Or is it a matter of like you don't want to say that to somebody because they've worked hard to bring their character into your story? I don't know Maybe Um, yeah, that sounds a little bit lame. It's like hey Your lad doesn't fit in here and then they're like yeah, well He's coming in Have some fun I'm not allowed and on seaban No, no buns By the way rags ERP is erotic role play. Oh, I think someone actually said that happened Well, I think he hit it earlier anyway Well, you deserve some coins for the black widow video extremely well done sir. That's uh meme and fringy too that did well on that one Uh Rags loved you taking apart that extra credit stupidity. Hell. Yeah, and you know what? You want to hear people taking it apart again? We actually coded an e-fab probably like a year ago I don't actually remember anymore Was a while ago. It was bad Very bad Who uh is a solution to powerful characters just to make everyone else powerful I have an issue where I like ridiculous galaxy obliterating scales of power That feels like just the theme one punch man made fun of Almost that issue of making everybody so powerful that the stakes just kind of get difficult to even keep track of because of how Ridiculous it is I think it's easier to power down than it is to power up and I will say the more you power now like you're Think about what it is that you're finding shocking because the thing is when you have like, you know Everything is very normal and simple and then one guy is a bodybuilder It's like oh fuck and there's a fight. It's like he's gonna wreck shit Yeah, is it really just the fact you want to see galaxies being torn to shreds by some powerful dude I guess the problem is for me that is too big for me to fully comprehend in a way that full Because yeah, I guess the point I guess we I mean it's possible It's just gonna be really hard to Yes maintain Um, because you know the emcees are having this problem right now. They're like, yeah, everybody can do all the things Also care about this guy on the street. He was trying to stop this mug. Uh, you're like, okay um Yeah, no, it's tough to balance that Our news efap 133 was not a year ago close to half a year ago ish A year so that's like a year. Yeah A weird year Um, hello, you lovelies. Are there any movies with timura morrison? You recommend other than star wars the man has a great acting chops also high ranks He's an aquaman I wouldn't recommend it though um Yeah, uh, he's in vertical limit. I don't know if that's good though is I like him. I think he's got a little bit. He's got a charming voice and I hope he's in good stuff. I just I don't know if I've seen him in good stuff Maybe boba fer will be good Yeah Probably not, but it's been handled by the guy who made episode six That'll be great And it's someone might be like, well, that's a mean way to refer to robert rodriguez. It'll be like, I mean, it's true What do you want me to do? Do you remember like the production of episode six or something like he was given the script and it was like seven pages long The rest was they fight. Yeah And it's just man it shows. Yeah People loved it though. I don't know if they still love it though But they did you certainly did Remember, um, we posted I posted a little clips of the e-fab minis like on the day we watched it before they were edited And people like you guys hate everything I won't There were a lot of things in that show that were really funny like those speeders Yeah Yeah, and what they do that is they're like so a stormtrooper can't ever make a mistake. It's like How about they they stop making mistakes for once that'll be crazy. Sorry It's it's really funny that they're so incompetent that they crashed into each other It still makes me laugh. It's one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life It was pretty fucking funny and I do hope we get more of that if it's gonna be bad like please be funny Yeah, funny funny bad Any thoughts on the total war series high rags I really like those games. I don't know much about them. Next one that's coming out with warhammer Sounds like moodle is the best source on this one. I streamed it a little bit even I see if you didn't like that during streaming, but I still did it What's the uh, what's the new one that's coming out? You said, uh, it's the total war one Warhammer My only knowledge of it is angry joe's review of total war rom 2 and how it didn't work That's what I remember. It just was completely broken That's unfortunate. Yeah, I really like those games I never played them vanilla though because the one that one feels always kind of Arcady to me There's a lot of really good mods out there where The the the the tank units feel tanky So you can do like a real big shield wall and they actually hold people off I said total war warhammer 3 ready Hmm Yeah, I really enjoy these games, but uh, not vanilla. So I'm probably gonna get that one when the The mods are there for it Um I long man, ringy, metal and rags Hello Yo, have any of you played destiny or destiny 2? If so, what do you think of it? I personally play it for the story and gunplay. It's hard to play it when the season pass and expansions are so far apart I guess we already jumped the gun when I was saying how much I hated In this yeah, no, I I made a I made a whole video on destiny 2 and how much I didn't like that game Um, that was a few years ago. Yeah, I I I got really hyped for destiny That that was for me. That was the big like don't don't don't get hyped don't get so overhyped for a game I was so excited and it took me a while to realize that I wasn't having that much fun Um, yeah, I I heard the destiny destiny one was way better the second one I only played the second one. So it was pretty nice for me I played it a whole bunch But when I got to the end game content, I got like Pretenious Do I get lost on that because when it came out everybody was disappointed like destiny when it came out I was just like, dude, what is this like this is not what we thought we were getting And then I'm pretty sure like taken king and stuff came out and people really like that And then when two came out it was like a step back from those improvements But now two people say that's in a place where it's really good. I just I don't know I think I just fundamentally do not like what destiny is I thought I was getting into a game where it's like we're gonna have an amazing epic story in this brand new world And um and go to all these crazy interesting locations and learn about the history of this world Um, and that it wouldn't just be like You know grindy and having to fight full of sponge enemy But you know, so I'd I'd never played it really that much on my own. I mostly played like a monk. So it's just like hanging out Shooting peeps Because I don't I didn't like the uh the gunplay in it Gunplay is excellent in terms of just the fundamental mechanics. I just don't like the uh like the The enemies that I'm having to fight and and all all of those things It's just when you get to the end game you have like those dailies and weaklies like Guess I'll lock in once we can get those and hopefully get a weapon I want Yay Yay I never played destiny. I am I'm out of the loop on that one Wow, no, no true destiny I mean, yeah, it's like people have a lot of issues with this streamer. I guess I don't know what he did, but man Upshly x Upshly x Posed oh Hey moops just binged all bio shocks and really loved the first one, but infinite completely deflated me Do you plan on tearing that game a new one? I did at one point. I uh I was gonna make a video on it. Um, but I got off put by how good Uh, matthew metosis this video was It is x now So maybe one day, but I mean at least I might stream it and They'll complain excessively Um Holy super mushrooms. Ifap and the super chats are actually more or less synced. When does that ever happen? I know it's terrifying Well, I mean, have we caught up with any of the like the ones we're trying to catch up with or has it all just been these streams? Once I think it's worth not talking about how much we've caught up with that's probably the better thing to do right It's a habit I have a great deal of difficulty breaking and most of the weaker characters have Reality rewriting if pretty well defined hacks abilities There's a thing I wouldn't want to restrict anybody in terms of doing the you know They battle universes and all that but at the same time it's just yeah It's tough to bring the stakes back down when you want to and it's also tough to keep advancing them It's like man, you've gotten pretty high up already and it's like well, yeah What if I introduce someone who controls everything? But then someone controls that guy So on and so on. You're just like, yeah, it's great It definitely isn't cringe. I like it I just saw expect you to die too is out Whoa it's a pretty nifty vr game Where you I guess you're kind of a Of an agent like a secret agent and you get put in like a scenario and you have to get out there without dying And it's like like a scheme rule a scheme rule a scheme rule Yeah, I don't even know what the fuck my brain was doing there escape room You got it kind of deal I have like to find different switches and stuff. It's pretty nifty. I'm Yeah, it's uh, I hope it's uh, I hope it's as fun as the first one because it's pretty pretty cool. Yeah um Finally watched angel season four. Just nor Yeah, yeah Sorry about that Um, fuck mary kill lord and clam and doil Um, I would marry lawn. Yeah Um, fuck doil kill clam I think that's yeah, I think that's my thinking as well Fuck mary kill cordy fred and faith. Oh no. Um, so mary fred Fuck cordy. Um, and then kill faith. I might reverse the last two Yeah, I'm I'm a bit I'm a bit torn on the it is just a matter of I'm not marrying faith. That's not happening No, I agree. Oh, it's kind of like a toss up between the last two, but definitely mary fred nice stable friendly time to Kind of an obvious one, I think Um, I'm all high fringy high metal and drum roll, please insert actual drum roll here. I I don't have one I rags he's currently muted. He's he's in an intense phone call right now Intent calls. Yes. My universe power level entities wouldn't have increasing stakes by increasing power levels, but rather more dangerously politically and personally wise Yeah, you could still do that like something that's moving galaxies Not like you can only have stakes now if you have someone who's above that you can go back to whatever it's just Definitely just hard to keep it all in line. I guess Because a good example is the power level we've got now for the avengers as they can manipulate time at will And they're gonna have to forget that because that ain't gonna work with the future troubles Um, I love the story of horizon zero dawn A law is pretty much what ray should have been the story Aloy, yeah, uh, yeah, the story continues in February cautious to pre-order high rags Yeah, I hear good things about this story and horizon. I never Um, yeah, and the new one's coming out in february. Yeah Well, my hope is good Aren't new languages what happens when you're being so lazy and mispronouncing things so much It just reaches the point it becomes an entirely new language. We're all just lazy samaritan speakers Kind of I mean, yes. Yeah, I'm not gonna know exactly how new languages Spring out of current languages that are accepted. We need to speak some linguists. Yeah, figure that one out. They'll know the answers I'm The son's train of thought is like an unfortunate auto save right before your character dies That's a really good one. Yeah Oh my god, it is from the game on steam that has demo well Um, I hope you enjoyed Slash enjoy the commit die squad by games john I found it myself I found myself thinking back to a few things not making sense But I had a lot of fun with it and left the cinema with a smile. So I liked it Yeah, I liked it too. All right. Hey ranks Hello Um Something more here to the cinders mod for ds3. I decided to try it after hearing so much praise And it turns out it invokes a lot of ds2 If you don't know what I mean dragon slayer on the boss has been model swapped and placed in four different areas Um, yeah, one of the things ds2 did was like just spam a lot of the enemies it already had Um, but I mean metal loves cinders mod Oh, yeah So I imagine you wouldn't say it's similar to ds2 It's cinders mod. No You know, that isn't like that's um, they seem to be talking about dark souls Yes One game that isn't like dark souls 2 is paladins Or as I call it better overwatch And one of the monetization that they use for that is they're able to put out a lot of skins and stuff for different characters for which there are many many characters and they're clearly not Like really great skins in terms of their Holly count and their texture detail. It's not like overwatch level But they can really put out I guess more of them and different weapons and skins and you know all kinds of little different things It doesn't have an overwatch budget, but they're able to put that stuff out and some of it looks pretty neat and So they could you know, that's how they that's how they do it It's like how you reskin an rts potentially where yeah, it would take a lot more individual models to make up the units but maybe they wouldn't have to be as Well detailed and not as much individual attention has to be spent on each no one um, so One way to doing it. Uh-huh Uh Oh no What did you guys think of terry is also high metal? Oh, hello, I haven't watched it We're pretty brain is muted. What? Oh, no I I suppose we'll have to wait until he's back before that question is answered fully I wouldn't want to answer that question without him Feel like it's something we shared and you know, it's so Hopefully if you guys can just remember that one for me in case I forget it We'll jump right into it the second he returns It'll be great The fuck I I actually hadn't looked at our group for a while. What is that image of my math? Don't math because I fucking why my friend his name He looks so foompy He looks really like plasticky Rubbery he looks like Yeah, like he was sculpted by someone and not finished. Mm-hmm He looks like he's got like squidward vibes in a weird way Uh Planet busting and above levels of power is like time travel multiple stories to me types of stories I really love that are nonetheless filled with so many pitfalls for writers. It's smart to just avoid writing them Yeah, um, I wouldn't want to put people off ever trying. It's just it's really hard As soon as you you let the cat out of the bag Of time travel that cat is gonna gonna struggle to get back in there, you know Um, I recommend reading world war by harry turtledove It's about an alien invasion during world war two the aliens get addicted to cinnamon and turns into a black market for tech and weapons Interesting That's interesting Um, what's your um, what's your opinion on cinnamon? Hey, I I I think cinnamon's neat. I don't know anything against it Yeah, I like cinnamon. I think it's pretty good Put it on some fantastic and yeah Cinnamon rolls are like some of my favorites ever Yeah, let's do some rails here and there. Hmm I have now watched toy story four and i'm now angry or finally watched it and i'm now angry Yeah, check out our efab movies on it. We were fucking shocked We were horrified. We hated that that was a nightmare. That was really a nightmare Oh, no brings back. That means I have to ask the question now No, what? Someone's super chat. They want to know your opinion. Well our opinion on terriers Oh, um We are up to episode five um Bad bad bad bad Bad really bad getting the newspaper out for that one The the the the too long didn't read on why it's bad is it is a procedural show That a legal like a police procedural show Then it shows complete disregard for the law And like the world just does not react to the actions of these characters These two characters who are pretty morally reprehensible. They seem horrible. They seem horrifically bad They do a lot of bad things. So like In the first episode alone they commit like six or seven serious crimes um Ending the ending being that they frame a man who they're pretty sure killed someone that they don't actually know um That that was really bad And then they fuck with a crime scene because they have an interest in the crime scene themselves when it's like Yo, the police need to investigate too, but I don't even know that they understand That's what's happening when they do that Yeah, even though one of them is an ex-detective Yeah, it's battling um And then and then like so so, you know by by the end of episode five basically the gist is oh, there's like um There's this site that are for a construction project Oh, but like it's contaminated And so they figured this out because I run up past the main characters like girlfriend Ex-wifes soon to be husband who's like an engineer architect. He's familiar with these things and he He's like, oh, yeah. No, this is toxic like they can't build this hit I've done the report on this and they can't do it that gets put through and they decide Yeah, we're not building this we're not doing this project here and uh our main character's sister is like Oh, no, that's that wouldn't make it radioactive those those elements don't work that way based on public information now Your immediate questions are nobody else ran another report This got through the person whose job is to understand these things and also All of this is publicly available And you just know that this is not how it would work So why in the world would nobody else have figured this out? It's honestly baffling So, yeah, it's uh, yeah, it's not a good show. It's like one of the first things that happens in one of the cases There's um, they need They they need a phone number to be able to track the person they're after They get the phone number because they go to her employer or at least Who happens to be their employer her employer and he's like here's the phone number and so then They call the police department under a detective's id that has been stolen And use it to track A phone signal a phone signal that leaves to it leads to a crime scene. That's where they're directed to And so now if the police have just two brain cells to rub together They will know a detective recently asked them for a tracking on a mobile phone That led them to the current crime scene that would have been discovered soon after they were there And it's like wow detective johnson or whatever. What's this about? Like what'd you find there and he's gonna be like i didn't find shit. What are you talking about? I wasn't there and then they'll be like, huh, that's weird. What phone was used When they called in and then they can track that phone which will be his phone And then they know that you have the id and they know that we found part right next to the crime scene Yep that too and they that's really weird. They they're probable cause for going into ted's house was that he was sold the mobile It's like wow who sold him the mobile? Oh, you they are doomed. They are fucking doomed Illegally operating private investigators. Yeah, so it's over like it's not just that they've committed these crimes But also that there is a very clear trail of evidence connecting them to this crime And just the morally abhorrent things continue. So like in episode three He needs to get a loan for a house that there's no way that he could possibly pay it off And um well wait the way that it's i don't know. I don't know This is the first thing that happens. I felt hilarious. So He needs a loan and he's gone. I think he's the third bank. He's out and it's like no because your credit Shit, you know, you can't be trusted. You don't have a job. You blah blah blah. It's like, yeah, okay Lucky for him the CEO of the bank happens to overhear this conversation He's like oh, I need a pi to do a particular job and the first thing is like so get a real pi Don't get some randy. Who's not licensed. What are you doing? Why would you do this? And it's like wow you overheard him. He's like, yeah, if you do this job for me, I'll give you your loan It's like wow That's perfect, but it gets worse Go ahead for you. Oh, yeah Yeah, at the end of the episode Um, it all goes wrong and the dude's basically like mad fuck you Um, and then our main character leaves the dude jumps He kills himself. He jumps out of the window kills himself But the paperwork is right there the paperwork for his mortgage So what he does is he forges this now dead man signature on the documents to get the loan for his house What a great guy man. What a good guy you are Yeah, there's that's not just illegal. It's really unethical. It's not just illegal. It's wrong Oh, and and also just the fact that our other main character happens to be Oh Oh, yeah, so you know what? We'll we intend to finish the show We'll update you e-fap on on stuff to do with it later. I guess but we're not we don't think it's very good I would go as far as in this downright shit at this point. I think it's terrible. Yeah, it's terrible But yeah, uh The parts you've shown me told me about In fairness, like I don't often like I watch a lot of stuff. I don't often show rags all of it But like I couldn't resist with some of this I look at this event. It's insane Mm-hmm But going back to the person who mentioned Toy Story 4 and how they were angry you have to have watched it There's a e-fap movies Toy Story 4. You might enjoy it. Maybe you'll find it cathartic if you don't know It exists already Yep, we thought it was shit too What would you Do with the mcu post infinity war would lowering stakes be better like having an earth bound a big bad for a villain? Is it even possible? um There's a there's a lot of decisions to make bad for a while because yeah, uh Because like I don't think it was the right thing to bring in shang chi and the eternals right now This is I think now is the time to like Man, they're so grand, you know the eternals so cosmically grand. Yeah When it's like man, you could really go for a homecoming type of story just with a new hero, maybe It was a bit like a feature crepe the film version Yeah Yeah, um, I would probably want to try and Like far from home. I think was fine. Um As a choice to do after all of it. I I think You might want to just do The kind of movie that we can introduce some new heroes through some someone else and then give them their own movie That's sort of they kind of did this in phase three right after ultron Just like let's chill back down a little bit Um, I just a relevant question. How does a writer ensure that their show treats immoral acts appropriately rather than glorifying them? So it's kind of that interesting conversation, right? Because breaking bad waltza white is the bad guy He is the villain. I mean death notes another example light is the villain. He is like a super villain um I think a lot of it has to do with um What what Like what is the story trying to tell you about these people? Like what is the tone of the show in terms of representing these people? I think is an Is a really important part So in breaking bad as things get worse and worse your start Your I think you're supposed to start being like man waltz is like doing some really bad things But never the you'll kind of be on his side for like sometimes you'll be like no, they just don't understand the context But then sometimes you'll be like Yeah, but Nevertheless, you're still like really engaged and interested in seeing what happens and that's just great character work And you can do that with people or bad. Obviously um The problem with terriers thus far is it is very much the their methods may be crude, but they're good people But they're not they're not even questionable people. They're just doing really bad things They sound they sound definitely evil. They um, they're just so deserve to be locked away forever because of how they damage other people in society So selfishly driven. It's really annoying. Yeah, they're just wanting to do things for money. It's always about getting money um And I think that's the thing is usually They think about this in relation to gta protagonist Usually they have some aspect of them that's really valuable despite being really bad people. So like cj Lobs his family and wants to do what's best for his family wants to take care of his family It's the same thing with like nico is that he loves roman. He wants to take care of roman Even though they butt heads There are these elements and of course putting them up against really bad people as well um but yeah in this show it's like like The the villain thus far has kind of been ted and Yeah, I don't know. It's it's yeah, it's not good uh I remember loving toy story 4 when I first started in theaters and started to absolutely hate it upon further thought after I left the theater I'm sorry like he said real whiplash that experience as soon as they made buzzer moron and they made woody abandon all of his friends without some of them without a word I was like I'm fucking out Yeah, you're done fucked up. Yeah, it was really painful The ending I was like, I think we're all screaming at the top of our lives while it's playing happy music Yeah, it's supposed to be really heartfelt like it's just frustrated as hell um Oh, hey now that I remember to ask one of my friends is one of those your own personal opinion is your truth I need randy nutsos Uh And pisses me off sometimes on why he just likes and hates certain things that I like He sent me a link at one point To reddit saying the reason behind internet history and not appearing on efeb since 99 is that mola was talking about politics We've been over this first of all like I I fucking rarely talk about politics This just doesn't come up that much secondly, um He was gonna come on from a gothic phone Then uh, there was a conflict of schedules and then the latest I've heard is that he's um, he's dialing back like online appearances But once he's dialing them back up, he's uh He's actually he said he was interested in gothic phone. So yeah need gotta hang out with welcome back anytime, of course I reckon he'd like gothic phone a whole lunch. Um, I think he'd be hilarious with gothic phone Yeah, and yeah, this was mentioned in the um, the stupid rags red thread that we went over in a mini if you remember They were like in that one. They said it was rags talking about politics that scared him off So I guess they'll figure out a narrative at some point None of us even me we don't really talk about it much I mean, I don't know it's there is a degree of like you'll be okay There is no one person you agree with politically entirely. I'm sure of it Um I grew up on rts's Cane's I knew said Kanye's wrath kate's wrath Zero hour was my life blood. I remember is uh a mod for red alert three that made five new major factions Expanded the lore great deal. It had this nihilistic robot super intelligence that was super interested in art And was sad that the universe would end Oh Apparently there's gonna be more to that. I'll read it when it comes I guess Um So this is in relation to the cinders mod being compared to ds2, but wait, there's more life gems are back There are 20 billion seagbrow you can acquire Fp regions passively allowing infinite spell cast divine blessings are farmable from silver knights and there's more infinitely respawning mini bosses Dark spells are sold by kala have been converted into hexes requiring their own new ring for a damage buff no longer benefiting from dragon crest ring There are 128 rings up from 71 But no increase in ring slots to account for the change the mod absolutely breaks the human npcai I've literally watched them stand in one place and repeatedly attempt to parry the air 80 to 20 meters away while I aggro with them It's it's just like ds2, but it's a mod. You can't criticize it. I mean metal what do you have to say The cinders mod I have not played it so I can't say I don't I don't know. I don't I haven't played it that deeply. I played like two times and I mean, I like The thing is the cinders mod constantly changes. So I don't even know if it's at the same state as I played it before I do I did see that there's a lot of uh A lot of new healing items But I just I didn't choose them Like I didn't the healing life shows you Didn't I just didn't use them. I didn't buy any of them if you'd have to buy them. I guess I just played like the normal dark souls and I think it's Even if I mean those items might be in there, but still the mechanics are still dark souls three mechanics Like the game still works much much better So I still don't think it's a fair Well, yeah, I mean Dark souls to functioning hit boxes goes a long way. Let's put it that way. Yeah um But I mean, yeah, I just I don't I don't any context for it. So it might be true. I don't know but uh Yeah um So about the the the super invested in art alien robot super intelligence rather so they Uh, they went into hibernation until a human tricked them into thinking They could take over the world and beat entropy by making a pact with uh, oh and it's carrying on I should probably wait until it stops saying Continue dot dot dot. Okay Um Oh, this is the end of the other one. This is about the reddit thread one So it doesn't like to talk about his politics apparently Fuck my life He also doesn't like game of thrones because his politics in it and the character names aren't unique But loves dune and the main character's name is paul I don't know what to make of that. Let's Know what to say. Yeah Uh packed with an eldegod thingy made of psionic energy for no that one's got to continue to the end as well I'm just gonna wait. It'll be fine Terrier's discussion reminded me of the movie hell or high water with chris pine But meaning to give it a rewatch. Have you guys seen it? I have not I have not no Metal people are complaining you're playing vanquish off stream. I'll take it over. It's fine. Damn I also streamed it before on stream. So get fucked I like to think the explosion was just shouting onion breaking the universe barrier to go to gartic phone verse to the well drawn fan art universe. Oh Hey crossover medium barriers nice Uh fringy there's a fringoid skull on display in a restaurant in north adelaide. Are you going to go on a revenge rampage? Also get outside at sunday What is a fringoid? Yeah, I feel like you could tell us like what is it? I can't I don't know what it is. Oh, of course. I've heard of him. He's me Oh Who else could it be? Yeah How could my skull be on display? That's part of that. That's one of the reasons they sent the super chat. That's amazing You should be vengeful about that Yeah, you're gonna go go get it back. It's yours We support all of your retributive endeavors Sometimes I think about how I actually got to this channel I mean at first I watched game grumps then got to know super best friends play Then I see them creating their own channels after they disbanded and especially podcasts and in one episode Uh Woolly it just says it's ended. Where's the rest? Dang, it's a we've got a it's a pandemic of unfinished super chat. Well, we've Kind of true actually but I this one. I don't think there's any hope me finish See I don't know where the ending went for that one. I'm so sorry But I'm assuming it ends with you saying you found this stream. So whoo I don't know glad you're here. Yes All right, the cosmic one has ended elder god thingy made of psionic energy from the realm From the realm one of the commandos first one or a continuation because I'm gonna be honest I do not remember the first ones. I'll do my best to try and Give you the context you require to answer it if if required Um possible from the realm of one of the commandos gets their powers from but even though they have the tech to instantly win But their artistic vision of a robot army prevents us. They are artists before warriors as that is what they love above all So the impression I get is the the hyper intelligent robots that they created actually had a love of art Is what they were saying and that they were they were artists before warriors or something I mean this sounds like something interesting there. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, I can I can believe it That sounds like an interesting idea Um fringoid skull, where are we? Do you one thing I find kind of neat is when cosmic level superheroes have to deal with more earthly matters and street level ones Have to deal with cosmic threats spider-man often does the latter I mean, uh, it can be like if you have a hyper powerful entity and they're having to deal with like I don't know. There's corruption range on jury duty or something. Yeah, or There's corruption in the mayoral election. It's like I can simply cast a truth hex and he will no no you can't do that Dr. He stopped yet Um, why do you stand in the way of justice other good examples would be batman's personal history with dark side during the grand Morrison run of batman Uh, sure and how lex becoming president forced soups to deal with earthly politics Yeah All potentially fascinating stories Um Where are we Instantly when My friend is a high functioning autist to be fair, but I don't like to mark that against anyone as someone Of the smartest people are autistic Yeah, you wouldn't need a Don't know blaming autism if someone's been a dick Just say they're a dick That's true. Also, they that is true. They are some of the most Intelligent people on the planet. Um, however, they are often also some of the worst dancers Yeah trade off I am not a fringoyed fringoyed 2021 Embrace who you are embrace the fringoyed The main rule of roleplay is that you can't control stuff other people do it's purely collaborative when everyone's own law is equal In authority and authenticity. This allows everyone to create what they desire And most conflicts are resolved as no one particular Law as no one particular law holding Absolute authority is the peace that they all meet in neutral ground I think this was in a response to the idea of like when someone comes into your roleplay with their own character And it fucks with your history like what do you do? um The game that is to maybe avoid making characters that are too In like particularly tied to this uh to to the a specific place I know I could take some of my characters because I save all the character sheets and stuff I could I could take roga raggins, right? and I could take him And I could plop him into a different setting and his Goals and motivations and what he is trying to do Is still going to be a pretty Valid thing and there's nothing that's going to be like it would still totally make sense And he would still function well in that world if he was just transported into a new one Yeah, I suppose as well you if there's an accidental conflict like someone's I don't know does a thing that someone else had already done in your story And you I guess you just try and morph it in and be like I don't know it still totally makes sense because there's this other thing you guys don't know about Something like that I don't know you Uh may as well toss an extra five love the extra credits video rags been watching since 2016 I'm was very pleased to see you upload. Keep it up Thank you very much. I'm glad you liked it more is on the way. I I um if there wasn't an efap today that we're doing right now I would probably have been recording like Honestly like four dog bites videos There's like there. I've got these projects and they're all named and It's gotta do that but here we are confirms efap has destroyed his work ethic. Yeah, this is destroying my career These people are a bad influence I'm also German. Yeah also German In all seriousness, what does everyone think of corn inside poop serious answers, please Poop corn. I haven't given it that much thought Um, honestly, it doesn't really affect me in any way. Um, it's not like it's not like It's not like razor blades and poop or something like that. You know, that would be really bad Yeah, corn is a very inoffensive and not particularly durable nor Hardy substance really it's it doesn't have any sharp edges. It's not really that rigid So you just don't really pause and give it much thought I I've just it's kind of funny And that's about it I like it when they create poop monsters in games or movies and they just have corn in them because it's just like Yeah, of course you would right and it's like I guess everyone just eats corn regularly So if there were a poop monster Instructed of your average poop There's gotta be some corn in there or rather the the parts of corn that remain Yeah, I'm wondering what is it that's unique and that's different about these pieces of corn That allow them to survive intact for that kind of a journey But the other ones like what it makes you wonder what happened to the others How does didn't make it like they didn't make this far are were they not as strong of will Were they not the background characters in an action in the corn verse In the in like the day after tomorrow, but the day after poop In the shit the corn You know, like they're the corn that don't make it into the library. They're the corn that gets swept up in the tidal wave Nice to see sfo on efap. I remember rags coming on to his canadian election stream man. That was a crazy stream I think I remember that There you go. Yeah. Yeah, I was playing um risk a rate two at the time. Yeah, sometimes that's how you remember It was fun having a short fat otaku on efap. He'll probably return at some point to discuss more things He was a nice nice nice guest. He'll definitely have him back on whenever he'd like uh Okay, super chat's done now, please end the stream so I may watch what I missed. I'm afraid not We're seven hours in so as I'm you know, unless someone else calls it because they're very very tired We shall be continuing Yep onwards we go Uh, nice. Oh wait release woga release wota wick release buyan release wags well, that's uh I'm I'm pretty releasable. Yeah I'm as far as candidates for release go. I'm I'm pretty top tier not gonna lie Uh metal what do you think of the german question? How does it make you feel? I don't speak german. Oh No, it's all right. Yeah, don't blame you Wait, I don't speak german. What is the question? Uh springy. I'm looking at your career with great interest. Oh Don't know don't know if sexual could be could not be Good hope uh Hmm If you guys would a remake kotor 1 and 2 on the level final fantasy 7 god How would you guys change such modernize the combat system? Hmm. I don't remember enough about the combat system Yeah, and I feel like that wouldn't be the thing that you change you might would might tweak it But I feel like the people who would really like those games The combat is a pretty key part of why they enjoy it I would not want to draw their ire No And I've don't played it so you can't help you there Uh Do do do do is there a playlist of rags rpg videos? I've heard him refer to them on previous streams along with aiden paladin, but I can't seem to find them Uh, there's a swamp playing games. I believe is the channel where we did one Um Hooled cross has someone his channel as well I think arch has the nazi vampire one Um But I'll have to look more specifically to find some of the others if I can't quite remember where they are But that should get you started at least that's three of them. Yeah So uh With all the mess in australia I'd like to inform fringy that we would happily welcome him if he wishes to move we have tex max cows and freedom You too metal Oh tex max cows and freedom Nice, I mean if if you wanted me to move that you would need to make the immigration policy in the united More flexible because like there are certain things that you just can't get I'm pretty sure that america doesn't have like a self-employed visa Um, no, that's one of the things top hats is lamented about Yeah, I I don't get it. Like that feels weird Um, because you can get self-employed visas in like canada and stuff, but non america so that's what makes it harder Yeah, you should just sneak across the border and come in here illegally. That seems to be the way to go. Jeez. They'll give you You can go to the right state. They'll give you driver's licenses and all kinds of shit There's the o1 visa, which I think is the one for exceptional skill So i'm not going to be able to get in on that one. What I I was have they seen your 12 angry men video? Yeah, I go to the immigration Hey, look, I made a really Well, I think it's neat anyway for this movie. That's how you you put the video down. You're like, well, I mean, well, I think it's neat They're like, what is it? I think I think it's worthy of a visa. All right. Come on celebration of american culture I love america. I see 12 angry men is good Is that all you have to do to get in cool people who love the freedom and the democracy Freedom freedom freedom. Oh Freedom that's a thing. That's that's something freedom. I do love the freedom Please let me I give freedom 10 out of 10 The free is is very neat I would suck every dick on this beach for freedom liberty liberty as well There's a there's a lot to like about astralia though. There's a there's a lot of places to see And things to do is there now Yeah, like yeah, I was just clarifying It ain't it there isn't as diverse a biomes as in the united states for sure, but um There's a lot you got tropics you got deserts You got little dinky mountains, but they're still got mountains with snow on them Um, and of course you can be your mountain is like a little dinky, but our mountain is like a big pp Well, I mean, it's really the the the himmel You know if we're talking about the big pps in terms of like mountains. I'm pretty sure america's fourth place Is kilimanjaro taller than uh, than mount mckinley Don't see mckinley No, not that one. Wait, hold on. I need to know or is it called denali now, right? Yeah, there it is denali is Six thousand one hundred and fifty five meters how now. Oh, no mount kilimanjaro is surely Wait, no, no, I might be wrong Uh No, no, it's not. All right, so this fourth. Okay. Yep. Yeah Wait, no, it's ranked fourth in prominence. Help me out. What's that? Sorry? What was the mountain that began with he was it or something? He Oh, that's no those are the those are the funny mountains Oh Yeah Yeah, it's mount he That would be a fun mountain to climb when you get no, it would be horrific It's all rocky and no one gets it. It's all shaped like a he he he And so it's really difficult to traverse and when you die it laughs at you That's no it's interesting to think about like Topographically prominent. So oh no wait. No, it's it's still in order of like the tallest to the okay I thought that that would yield interesting results, but it does But you were wrong basically what's the it's the uh The the the one that is the tallest from like base to peak in terms of the mountain itself from base to peak is uh the one in south america right there Akon kaguya, man, what should that one sounds racist? That's uh It's uh I'm just looking at it and it's like when you look at it from zoomed out I feel like it almost doesn't do justice to how difficult it would be to climb this thing Like it's zoomed out. It's like, oh, that looks like a pretty nice smooth little incline It's lying to you in reality. It's not yeah Uh with lizard eyes fringy lizard eyes I Not sure what that's sorry for oh, I guess they watch they keeping an eye on you with great interest with lizard eyes Oh, oh, I thought that was a game of thrones reference where you will close Green eyes and brown eyes and lizards. Wow. You remember that fucking hell That's a specific quote from season three I'm sorry that I remember that quote I'm just like uh, I'm like a Happy fun mystery box. You never know what crazy thing I'll say or remember next Yeah, we love our mystery boxes over here big fan Oh, yeah, hi rags Hello Fringy quit lyin. How can you enjoy living somewhere that doesn't exist? That'd be like saying purgatory is a riveting place lizard eyes fringy lizard eyes Lizard eyes may well be a riveting place. Who's to say that it's not? I don't know from the things we've had describing it. Does it sound riveting? Hmm Well, yeah purgatory. I mean again, I like southpawks just southpawks Don't grace Randolph infecting me. Um, like if it was like, uh, you know, you're trying to immigrate here That's why you're adopting our I'm I'm in that that yank lingo. All right. I'm adopting that gringo lingo. Oh my god. You can't say that anymore No gringo is totally fine. You could say gringo. That's one. What was it? What was the one that hassan defended gusano? He really shouldn't have defended Well, I mean, absolutely. I mean, it's racial, isn't it? Like it it is specifically if you remember The person who adamantly used it against destiny. He based it on his eye color I mean, is this not like the peak of racism? Hey, I'm allowed to I'm allowed to use this slow because of Attributes of you that you can't change that say nothing about who you are as a person. Yeah, man. It's fucked. That's that's precisely what we want to avoid, but Yeah, I don't know. It's just Yeah, it's not nice Is that an interesting verb? What was what was I saying? Oh, uh, yeah I like southpawks description of it as purgatory. It's a plane It is a plane that is always about to take off but you're not allowed to get up to go to the bathroom. You're not allowed to You can't put your your seat back or anything like that. You just got to sit there and um Just wait for the plane to take off Hey, no purgatory's an island remember Is it? I don't remember. Oh, yeah, it prices on infinite earth. It's an island. Oh, I thought your reference had lost I Know they got lost got it from crisis on infinite earths. Oh, they ripped it off. What the fuck Can't be having that. It's such an awesome fucking show that crisis on infinite earths It's so sad that the flash and supergirl will likely come to an end Those shows just look so incredible from all the little videos I see online Well, hasn't the flash already been renewed for another season like why though? I don't I don't know who's watching it. It's it's like a soap opera at this point It's like stop just let it die and just I guess I just wonder if like is it not embarrassing to be on these shows? Yes Man, well, I remember when season one came out and I still remember friends of mine at the time being like Flash shows super cool, but like right now it's so embarrassing like And it must suck for the main actors to be aware of that like To be like she has to be I'm on the shitty stupid shows like Yeah, like like we're talking about The superhero content you've got like the mcu in terms of just broad recognition And then you got like the dceu And then you got your show like yeah, and yeah, you're the you're the netflix adaptation in the meme It's not it's even worse than the netflix adaptation like I was Chinese knockoff of the netflix adaptation dude It's worse than the abc marvel stuff in terms of like, you know the appreciation or just recognition of what it is It's below that it's the cw. It's like a joke network So I just looked it up. So, um, it'd be on bt the oh, I Barely recognize that shadow name, but I'm sure I've heard of it Look at these ratings. So the highest rating for this season was a million viewers and that was the pilot not the pilot the premier Um, and thus far it has sunk to 700,000 people watching it live 700,000 people 700,000 That's um for america like a country 330 million. Yeah. Well, I mean That's pretty bad. Yeah, that means if you got 330 people in a room Less than one of them would have watched the flash Well, it takes it takes less than one brain to enjoy the flash. So that makes sense I guess I just I don't see why anybody would want to watch this show like look at the production values Look at the like writing. That's so cringe Cringe is correct. Cringe is the correct terminology to use to describe the cw. It is cringe incarnate Crisis on infinitus. That was like What in the It's so funny for us to just barge in on it and be like, we'll watch you and they're like, no, no, no, no We weren't ready for that. We were just we're fucking around Stop it. Yeah, this is what I mean. Crisis on infinitus was five episodes. Wasn't it? It was Yeah, it was five episodes. That's like That's that's a that's a good like four three and a half four hours of content And they started filming it on the 24th of september and then they finished on the 8th of november. It's like, dude What in the world? How was that enough time to make that much content? Don't think of it as well. Here's the thing. Don't think of it as making content Oh Yeah, think of it as um Think of it as just um Something Yeah It's definitely something they're doing. They're doing their best. I think I don't know if it's more insulting to not give them the benefit of the doubt that they're trying their hardest or to say No, this is the best that they can do And this is how it turned out I'm not sure what I would say about it in terms of like Effort and and things and how hard it was worked on. I guess I just The next crossover is called Armageddon. Oh boy. Isn't that exciting? I was like, I did it. Yeah, that's wow We go from the infinite universe is being destroyed to Armageddon. Be like, okay It'd be fair. It was the infinite universes But they almost destroyed the last universe But it stopped just in time right before it got to earth The red tism stopped and the earth was saved because they the flash ran on the treadmill and then he ran himself He saved everybody. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. He ran on the treadmill and then he vaporized. I remember that It was very sad I'm pretty sure he's already back in the flash show as well that character. I've heard. Yeah So clearly they're like what? I just I don't I don't get why there would be anybody who wants to watch it. Why would anybody want to watch that? Maybe they're contractually obligated to watch it Many bets were lost. Many bets were lost. Yes Many lives were ruined. Many are like this slain Strapped strapped to a chair with the little things to keep the eyes are yeah, the Ludovico Technique but with the cw You can't and they're just sitting there begging like please stop it. I promised I've changed I'll do better next time and it's just they just don't care You'll stick to the care if you've changed it's too late People decide if you have changed Um Hey all and rags Hello Uh, we've been talking super hero things for a while now and I really want to recommend the web serial worm if you get the chance It's amazingly written and has really made me rethink how I look at storytelling and the like in general I've not heard of it The web serial. I haven't heard of that either. No Makes you rethink how you look at storytelling. That sounds neat That sounds interesting Um, but I mean that seems to be what we're in need of right now Um, not just better writing but also like guys you're gonna have to shape it a change it up now People are gonna get bored I do wonder sometimes, you know, like if someone said, you know, you can't release another iron man now It's just like done. I just be like, I wonder if that's true. I wonder if you had a really solid Just, you know, like a solid dead devil movie where he's just becomes the hero Which would like yeah, I hope probably be fine, right? Like I don't I don't think I don't see why it wouldn't be I like to believe the fatigue is more so tied to them being shit But that's probably too hopeful I hoped before and now I'm just now look where we are just empty Hope is a fleeting dream Hope's like the sun rags I hate that A fun writing challenge Make a character who has a better chance beating someone like Azeroth or Cthulhu than a sword master Or mugger with a gun Maybe someone uses A fun writing challenge make a character I think I might need punctuation in this to know exactly what they're telling me because there isn't any Make a character who has a better chance beating someone like Azeroth or Cthulhu than a sword Swordmaster or a mugger with a gun Oh, so maybe somebody who has like a mental power or they have to be um I don't know that they have to put themselves in a kind of situation where their powers can activate maybe Or I don't know I'd have to think about oh Sorry, so I get it. So they're saying like against a swordmaster or a guy with a gun they might lose But against something like Cthulhu or Azeroth they have a chance like that's the sort of Right Um, funnily enough there was a character in uh heroes whose Ability was basically he nukes himself like he can survive it I think but he just he detonates So In a way you'd be like he'd be really great against certain things in certain contexts But for the most part that's just not gonna work like against your average bugger. It's like it's probably not worth it um The climax of season one by the way is our main character who absorbs powers Like duplicates them and use them himself comes across that guy And then he can't control the new power he's gained like the nuke thing Unless like the big drama what's gonna happen when he can't control it Wow um What do you guys think of The upcoming netflix adaptation of neil game and sandman i'm terrified as it seems that it won't be a strict adaptation Not too familiar with sandman myself. Yeah, you gotta just hope for the best I suppose Hope it works out. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know much about it Hello there massives. I want to pay you if you're entertainment here have some money that wasn't spent on crappy media don't bless Oh, oh, thank you very much. So nice. That's like a double wind. Yeah win Um The more you try to defend yourself the more you dig your grave Fringot gogoidias lizard friend lizard eyes my friend whispers Lizard eyes love your frogo. I guess they want to be the whisper that to you I don't want to scare you The solution is simple rags adopts fringy worked for angelina and brad and woody allen What is um Is there can you adopt someone if they're not a citizen? um And then that could make them a citizen Maybe there's a standard meme that you marry somebody and then they Well, yeah, but i'm where you are now i'm curious. What if rags adopted you? What what would canny and how can you talk me if i'm like an adult human? I think you can adopt adults can't you if the mentally like That's not gonna work All right That ain't gonna work It might it doesn't it might are you a good at acting? Can you act your authority again now? I'm just immediately going to the south park thing would come and pretending to be Like mentally handicapped so that he could be in the special olympics and win a thousand bucks I just I just like the idea of the you know, they're like free. What's two plus two to go? Five. Yeah Just lie Just slightly lie Sixty seven But then you they're like are you pretending to be retarded to go? No, they're like, oh my god. That's what a retard would say He must be No You just you do the worst job at it possible and to see how far you can go You know even like you're not invested in it at all, but you think it's tins out. It's like it's working. You're like I Fight I guess I get citizenship for free. I don't know if that that's how it works, but Retarded I guess Um, by the way Lucifer in the show lucifer is not a liar. They subvert the normal depiction of him there Uh, and then in brackets because rags wandered in the tism crisis episode Well in the genesis story. He is the only one of the two who told the truth so nido Right Fringy, I'll marry you for a fake green card. Oh So nice here you go bring plenty of options adoption or I have so many options. Yeah That's always a fun question to ask a religious person Like how have you determined that god is the good one and satan is the evil one? It can be tough sometimes you just have to get a moral barometer. It's a little device you can buy The Beaps real fast when it just tells you yeah You pointed at someone who's evil Oh, no, does it say power level like 85 or 90? What is it? What was it from a black widow? Oh It's like they're bad bad level So stupid Why do you have a gamecube logo for a pc game? Where does my money even go? Um, so I'll be honest with you. I just I use this because it matches to be fair This game can go into widescreen. So I don't even know why I did this but it it is that way now Um What is your opinion of the crisis and infinite earth comics? I quite enjoyed them even if they clearly did not accomplish what they set out to accomplish That is streamlining the dc continuity. They did that to streamline it Oh my god, well, I mean crisis on infinite earths the tv show is definitely not the same as the comic But I haven't read the comic So I couldn't tell you I know that that was like it had actual consequences because characters who got killed off in that were gone for a long time Like the main thing that barrio died and he didn't come back for like 25 years Which you could tell She didn't come back for a while they were aware of that in the vision because yeah Yeah, they yeah, they almost dies for them the other one does it that was Like she was slowly flying towards it and it's so cringy Like just it looks so crap. Do you remember people were like They think it was brown table fuelers like our arrows death was so fucking good. Little did they know that's the only And that's only his first death. That's all right. Yeah, you'll talk about the second death God dad that was right. That was baffling for fans imagine baffling was for us We are here laser out of his face. Well, they're fighting these ghosts When he dies he comes back and he says like I am specter now or something like that. Yeah, it's just like, oh, okay Oh, okay. All right. All right. Let me update the wikipedia page None of the right is no is that t re or t er just so I want to get this right. Okay Um But yeah, I've not read the comics We had been wrong playing together for four years at that point So there weren't many options other than to sigh and just move on knowing he made a bad call. That sucks Surely you'd want to be like, oh man the thing you've just established kind of fucks with everything over here Is there any way you can Move it around I don't know. I've just never been in that scenario. So I just don't know what the the thing to do is, you know Continuity the tough one Would you ever stream on youtube free it'd be easier for me to fund your expedition to discover your non-existent country I'm thinking $500 is a good start Oh, shit Um, the reason why I do it on twitch is because it makes sense to me to have stuff on multiple platforms Just in case anything would ever In case there were ever any issues on one or the other if you went back and forth um I mean, I guess that's always an option, but I like i'm totally fine with with doing it's a Fun with me you got the videos all on here though. Don't worry. Yeah the videos the precious videos Uh at moeller some people adopt their partners if they live in places where gay marriage is illegal As it's the only legal way they can live together. Oh, that sucks That's fucking crap. That's Um But I mean at least there's a thank fuck there's a way to do it, you know With what well, I guess wouldn't wouldn't that wouldn't the way be that you just like live together But you I guess you wouldn't have legal Any legal status to to enshrine that I suppose Basically just be roommates. Isn't it civil partnership is what people say call it domestic partnership or civil unions civil union that could be a yeah I don't know They followed up by saying I'm actually serious fringy lull I mean, I'm not gonna change like the what I'm doing. It's just to get paid Fringy is a principled brago. Listen, I don't know. That sounds like a pretty great way to change Pretty great reason is like well if I do change I do get paid. So Whim is good up to the halfway point afterwards it gets so can Convoluted and devoted to being the grim dark dip superhero setting. Oh, no I Like I said, I'm unfamiliar with it. I hope it's um engaging and fun though Um And they said about the money lull you deserve it with a heart Oh boy. Yeah, um Maybe just one stream on youtube fringy at the end of the year to celebrate the year Yeah To get the dosh and spend it on I guess alternatively, you know page for on like buck a month That's cool with me like all right. Yeah Um at muller, it's more so they can have a say in their partner's medical situations It gives them legal standing in that fashion. I see Yeah Yeah, that makes sense um Enjoy your day and a half or else Hey ifap crew, thanks for the countless hours of insight and entertainment long man. Good long friends. Good as well Oh Yeah, all right. This is very true. Yes Um We're all we love you guys ragu. You're my favorite the fagu since Milo resigned I'm gonna have that that yeah, he's an odd boy. That's for sure. He resigned from the fagu roll Like all right, technically, right? What is that? Oh, was that oh? Yeah, he's since understood. He required mental readjustment Man, yeah Yeah That dude so Yeah Ordered the plushie but won't tell you which one also um You guys think the buffy's pretty good the simpsons etc, but we all know the best show ever is married with children I haven't seen it. You haven't uh, it's it's funny. It's all right. Yeah, I like it. I think it's pretty funny Is it about being married with children edgy? It was kind of edgy for the nineties. Yeah. Yeah, it was a pretty yeah Oh man, I'm learning about advanced electronics in my video game. What are you guys doing with your lives? Open thing. Yeah, I'm just chilling And The show he fought to his last breath if have no he's still alive Yeah, that was He just in the back of He's getting better It's a great show Re-watching a crisis series again after this lull also high rags Hi there Are you still going to make a god of war review? Um, I would like to make a lot of stuff. No promises But that would be in my like to make it section. Yes, um, especially if they do something horrible with ragnarok Hey moeller Sorry, I couldn't make those celebration caught up finishing my comic, but I hope we all had fun one day closer to halloween The literature devil and yeah, no problem, man. Um There will be plenty more anniversaries to come and we were pretty stacked throughout, uh, but thank you and We were halloween is indeed on the way Money for the fringy by goo or a green card. I would shelter you from the great emu war Oh Huddled in the corner. Did someone's arms shielded for the emus? Yeah, the emus will come to different countries specifically for australians. That's all they're after They hunt down australians in other countries. They're like a blade runners blade runners, but emu runners terrifying Uh, just want to say thank you for keeping me entertained on my long saturday walks this summer I've never walked for as long as your streams go, but maybe someday not today though That's kind of funny like You make it a challenge like can I walk longer than they stream? That's gonna be real tough But it legitimately will be very tough. Yeah, it's a really hard challenge. Yeah, you can take breaks for water. It'll still count Um, hey mollo. I liked your orc vid. Hi rags. I hated the black widow vid critiques are poor etc I'll try to do better next time. I should have uh taken that into account when I made fun of a Yes, kitty it happy anniversary to both of you. May your faps be long and full of milk You know some some people might find that disturbing out of context, but I think it's beautiful really Yeah, I love me a milky fat. Yes Happy 150 to you the efap massives chat and unlisted gang I've inquired acquired the floofy plushies and they shall join me on my long road trip across the country this winter We'll critique america's plot holes plot holes and glory holes together. Oh That's a lot of holes and say they're more than capable doing such things. Yes Good company for such things Uh, hey mollo rags fringy and endless panel just wanted to say thanks for three years of putting my discontent with modern cinema into words I got my plushies on order as well as both my donation and survey submitted. I just have one question How do you argue for and against the quality of film writing? For example, I like it with someone who loves the product just as much as you do namely star wars marvel and dc But maybe more educated on the extended law i.e. comics I mean you tell them it needs to be uh present in the actual material You've seen it here. We've done it a lot with a lot of people who are just I don't think we haven't come across that in a while where they say something's good because I've actually I had an influx of comments on my black panther video. I guess it got back into rotation a little bit um A lot of people saying like the whole video is pointless because all of the questions are answered in the comics And I was just like oh my god. I forgot you people exist Like they they satisfied with that you just go read the comics If you want any more answers about how anything fucking makes sense in that film. It's like cool And i'm gonna go ahead and assume That's not actually true that when you read the comics it doesn't actually make it all make sense Yeah, I consider myself skeptical on that Scorpicoral Um But yeah, if they're like an expert in terms of they know all the comics and so they find They'd like to dismiss criticisms of the films in that regard. It's just like yeah, I mean you can easily call the card of uh That's the third party. I don't count it Believe me. They don't when the preference will come So the examples we like to use are uh Shining hill house Uh shore shank redemption even That's a super interesting one with red having been converted Yeah, and to brown You know what we should have brought up was fucking nick fury uh with blame because nick fury There is a version where he is black apparently but the original is white. So Should we should we not say that they've gone too far with sam jackson's nick fury and we need to ignore The first phase or well anything he's in I guess I don't know. I don't know how far it would go These rules they get rather confusing My money will help you green man five dollars pa. I give you five hundred. Why must you deny me? Do you know how much I sacrificed? Lol Bring me pick up your mother's trident Such a funny line. I don't even know why it's just It's what it was was that we didn't really react to it when we first saw it. It was only after It became really funny in in post sort of thing Yeah It's kind of like the uh, what'd you bring me? Yeah, a little bit. We did laugh at it when it happened, but it it just evolved over time Star fight that's my thing mohler by the way check out star fight on amazon and invincible is less than a five out of ten We've got nothing to say on invincible. Okay, you guys you guys in chat you had to fight over that one We didn't even have a hot take on it. It was all you Yeah, it was beloved and then we've had a lot of things saying it's average So I have no idea what to say about it anymore. It's a thing. I think shad really likes it. So there you go Yeah, go go us chat about it um Tearing down legit bad movies is fun, but can we get more e-faps on movies you legit like I call them happy faps Uh-huh. Oh That's cute. We don't like things Um Tell james gun to make more movies I guess Absolutely, we'd say yes to that He actually did make something that we liked and a superhero thing no no doubt So this is the thing no way home could be that we like that a lot could be Uh, love and thunder could be we like that a lot Really could be don't know don't know yet and then guardians 3 could be we like that so You know, you got some chances left in the mcu And then films in general something like underwater like I told you I only saw that because I was doing youtube I was watching I think like ah the history of this particular monster from this movie And some of them were interesting to the point where I was like, I guess I'll start looking at ones I've not even I don't even know about Then it was like underwater with christin stewart sci-fi thing relating to lovecraft and I was like, whoa High budget lovecraft movie since when did they do that? I was like, let's let's check that out. I want to check that out And we're glad we did yeah, it wasn't what I expected but I liked it I liked it too. I thought it was pretty good Honestly mola just never watch it or watch it to shit on it. I just want this bad day ripped off already I there is no in relation to the invincible is like, what do you mean? You guys have fun. I like it. It doesn't matter if we think it's good or bad, right? What else matters if we don't like it though, you'll be fain Uh, do you guys think the mcu died when thanos snapped his fingers in infinity wall because besides some of angame and far from home It's been almost nothing but crap Yes I to be honest with you I would be willing to put far from home on the altar to kill every other one of the things in phase four Your sacrifice won't be in vain Wow, it's technically phase three. So what's what I'm saying It's what you put out like you'd happily put a ride. I see Um, no, I suppose Let me see no way no way home first. Then I will confirm Because you know, if no it let's pretend for a second no way home is phenomenal We're like, oh, we all agree like oh fucking nine out of ten easy. It's like, whoa, does that redeem phase four? It's like probably not Even still probably not That's a big nope arena Hey molly happy third anniversary. Also you're gay rags too probably also high rags Hi Hello, thank you and hello A huge Aussie fan here you guys occupy this dark but badass corner of the youtube that never disappoints Do you rate the Hannibal show with Mads Mickelson? Um, so thank you and yeah, I watched the first two seasons and I thought They were pretty damn good, but I haven't seen in a while now. So I can't say for sure All I know is I'm supposed to avoid season three Probably apparently it's that bad But shad thinks poverty is intrinsic to spider-man a lot of people do Uh, they think you cannot have a spider-man story while he isn't desperate for a cash We do I think would limit the scope Uh, especially if you've told that story again and again because what you'll find is a lot of people will still say They're so fucking tired of seeing Bruce and Martha way get shot Wayne sorry, um And it's like, yeah, but kind of Batman without Bruce and Martha Wayne getting shot, right? Uh, same for uncle Ben and stuff I and you know, I'm pretty sure that was the logic with homecoming They were like, man, we just did uncle Ben's death again. Not a few years ago. Should we maybe Not do it this time. Everybody knows what happened. You know, let's tell a different story and I say different It's mainly it's mostly the same. It's just like they're changing things about it And like man, apparently they went too far because it's upset so many people Um, can't believe it's been three years. Thank you for all the good times. Here's to another great year What thank you Cheers cheers Why is everyone overlooking the fact that one of the daily goals was send racy pictures to your personal goal specialist The people who are basically just the better help volunteers is horrifying implications I did spot that that's the the what is it called zoom boom noom noom Um Yeah, there was a thing that was it's supposed to be a joke I think there's like six options and it says the correct one is one at the bottom But one of them was send racy pictures to your personal goal specialist Oh Yeah, noom bad Noom very bad well Shalom and mary 150th mola rags fringy guests and chat alone mary everyone One of my favorite community jokes marry everyone The least offensive thing you could say at christmas Is once upon a time in hollywood bad just because it didn't adopt a charles manson law correctly Also, please answer yes or no questions. Hi rags. Bless the long No, so Yeah, uh only enough Once upon a time in hollywood is a lot like inglorious bastards and several other films that get really Confusing for people who think you have to do history the way it happened Yep Because it's like people really enjoyed the ending Both of those films, but then it's like yeah, but that's not what happened though. It's like Well, thank you Yeah This this is just the the conversation of like how much responsibility does the film have to tell you The truth quote-unquote about reality. I guess I don't know. Um We've we've been over it before like we said patriot is not historically accurate But I don't know that that's significant enough to put me off. Um Uh, I mean assassin's creed is like fundamentally saying that history is happening a little bit differently from how you remember it How I remember it, whoa, yeah I'm not that old just because I'm just because I'm quoting game of thrones doesn't mean I'm that old Oh I gotta read it Your take on historical accuracy confuses me if you have a grounded movie in the fourth century Then suddenly they pull out will war two era guns. Is that just fine because it's all fiction Feel like it would be well building related. Well, wait. Yeah to me. They haven't that's never been our actual, um So When we say like you can have so just hitler doesn't shoot himself. He doesn't commit suicide Like is do you understand the difference between that? and then having um They pull out world war two era guns in the fourth century You understand the difference like so what we will usually say say is a medieval film And then they've got um swords and mail and stuff that's like, oh that wasn't invented until several centuries later So they shouldn't have them yet Um, yeah, that that that's the kind of we we would definitely point that out It's like that's incongruent with what they're presenting that's not an appeal to um Like how things went in terms of like choices people made and stuff. That's more so like they didn't have the capability to have this yet or whatever reason they do or This is an alternate But You do allow for stuff like wolfenstein where You have an uncapped in america to a degree, you know, we could talk about how it's like is it possible to have? Let's say crazy Sci-fi inventions all the way back in world war two And you're like yes like what? like, yeah So if your fiction accounts for this you're literally saying we're going back to world war two But there's a variable a crazy scientist has come up with all this technology. You're like, okay Like yeah, but that's not what happened. You're like, no, it's not Oh, right. So what happened? Yeah, it isn't but this is what's happening in the movie Unlike strapped in yeah, I was going to say you've got these are very different topics all at once. Um I don't know about you guys But if someone made a political thriller where hitler was captured and they show what happens as a result Would that not be fucking fascinating if it was well done Yeah, I'd be interested in that It's like, yeah, but that's not what happened. Yeah He gets like yes. It is not real. You're right After they tally everything up. He only gets like 76 hours of community service He's an orange jumpsuit picking up litter from the streets. Like it's just shocking Yeah, I didn't want to try because They assume he'll just get killed every life, you know in prison for life. It turns out no no 76 Yeah, he's out in a couple weeks because of some legal loopholes And when they drive past I disagree with you politically. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yes, at times of charms they say Um The historical accuracy one reminds me of the comic book accuracy one Well, we're just we're just sitting here like you can point and laugh all you want But believe me your systems are more incongruent when they enter their issues Like you all sound good on paper, but that paper ain't gonna last trust me Um Yep out now. I'm getting pretty tired. You've only been here for eight hours. What the fuck? Sorry You sleep well, mr. Mortal Yeah, so I'm so kind of Can exhaust it from all the tranquillages last night Well, uh, yeah, you you all have fun. I'll I'll see you around. Okay. Bye. See you later Good good nachtenheimer by my good wooden schweeden fliegen glatten a fliegen fliegen call copper Getting pretty tired myself, so Well, you know what I can say is we've completely caught up with all the stream labs. Wait, have we? Yes, like there's certain ones that we haven't Oh stream labs. Okay, right Yes, um What do you think? Uh, oh well, and yeah, just let me know. Uh, we are at eight hours I can keep going, but I think at this point Any of the three of us wishes to to to end I think that's more than reasonable. Um What do you think of southpaw and sk's take on civil wars plot being broken? Yeah, I think they're wrong Um I personally still would have preferred a little bit more about uncle ben beyond easter eggs like his suitcase and such They seem too scared of doing the dc crime alley scene thing I only want what I need I didn't need him um And like you've got to wonder what are you appealing to? Is it because you want him to be there? You want to see uncle ben? I think that that's the only appeal could be if you end up with the same story in terms of theme and and content Yes, and and this is the I'm not saying it's impossible to make it appeal. That's more Substantial than I want him to be there But like I suppose the way you have to do it is can you construct this argument in a vacuum? Can someone can you make the argument that someone would have made? Um, have they not seen any of the comics and knew nothing about uncle ben? Do you think that person would have said it like who's the father figure who was aunt may with and what did he mean to peter? Like I I think that's fair. I just don't know that you need it I'm necessarily needed given what we've seen with homecoming Answer war. Yeah Uh, please watch your favorite movies that you know aren't good just so you can take it apart analytically And the whole just say you don't like it argument. Uh, show the world. They aren't safe from bad Sorry, I feel like you don't even need to do that. It's just did we do that with Suicide squad was technically an example, right? We were all very positive about it, but we like we shredded it for all of its stupid Yeah Prequels like them, but they're not good. I'm pretty sure we've talked about the issues We've done phantom medicine attack of the clones. We haven't done revenge this if that will have its time That'll be an interesting one. Yeah, that's gonna be a controversial one. People are not ready for revenge of the sith I do like revenge of the sith, but yeah, yeah But it ain't good boys You guys should read slash watch slash experience homestuck Homestuck That's a game, right? No, wait, they just had read so I guess it isn't Our games have reading in them I mean if you would you wouldn't describe I don't think you'd describe a game as a whole as a reading experience, right? I guess Maybe maybe good. Well. Yeah, exactly Maybe it's more than one medium No, don't do that. But no do it homestuck is a web comic thing. Oh, okay. All right What if a black widow the taskmaster took off his helmet and revealed Greg TV? So that'd be hilarious Revealed what? It'll be super chat. We'll get around to it. Oh Right. Oh, it's the next one. You're right. Yeah. Oh my god And it's from guy array the one that did the the openings for um 150 the the ones with um Like it's like Well, I'm struggling for words like it's got a tune to it and it's really awesomely animated and had all the little characters Everyone's drawn up I do know which one you're talking about. Yeah Um, so yeah, if you're here right now, thank you so much for those They were wonderful Are wonderful chat and they said what if in black widow the taskmaster took off his helmet and revealed greg davis Well davies wait, is that who I think it is? Yeah, he's taskmaster I know him using um in between us I think he's very funny. I've I've watched um, I've watched some taskmaster clips here and there and Some of them are really good. Some of them. I really like you almost want to Try it out with a whole bunch of things like you take the mask off and it's just almost for snagger and you're like, whoa What does this mean for the greatest storyline What does this mean for the greatest storyline? That's why I specified Little bit more. I don't want to repeat of ben's death, but they seem scared to even mention him um also again, I The process so like when he when when peter says um, I don't want to tell aunt may I can't do that to it right now Not after everything this happened. I immediately was like, oh because ben's died recently Like that was enough. I didn't need any more. I didn't need him to say I can't do this because uncle ben died recently, you know I actually appreciated that it was subtle, but um I don't know. I I would just need an example of where you think it's necessary. I suppose Because you I think the argument could be made. I just I don't know it Um homestuck is saturated in time travel and cringe Hi Well, that's all right. We've seen the mcu. So are you used to that on the dcu? Yeah Oh, oh, which is cringier Uh, do you mean into like mcu or dcu? I think the dcu was cringier Think so. Well Complicated part. I guess density of cringe, you know density of cringe If one was to say that the suicide squad is the first of an in the next phase or whatever dc It's like, well, that's way better than fucking phase four But yeah, if we take them both as hot as look, but look at what's coming off. You see black adam flash yeah He literally says ben's name I don't think he's ever said ben's name in the mcu. I was gonna say that's news to me. I don't remember him ever saying ben's name That's his name is like the or an or accept But what if ben's name is ant may? Maybe That would be weird. I'm sorry. I've been dreaming So Mutant year zero has an interesting trpg take negative modifiers can get your hit chance sub 100 percent But you can beat the game only taking 100 shots Very well um Cover the flash slash super girl musical crossover. Jeez Musical crossover. Oh my god speaking of cringe God Stop it I think he mentions uncle ben once in the mcu in homecoming. I only remember him mentioning a not by name And you're supposed to imply that that's what it is Or you're supposed to would fear rather Um gay Ranks you have any commentary? um Well, I since I do speak for the gays, um No, no I'm giving us my thought. All right. I Yeah Yeah, that's fair. I don't I don't expect that you'd always have something to say on everything, you know I just just want to make sure you had your opportunity I need more context. Mm-hmm um Sure, stop making fun of hitler and sugerman leaves. Yeah, I mean A little bit too close for a coincidence, wouldn't you say? Three years in a row. I was now the first super chat in all the anniversaries Don't know if I'll do it next year. Thank you for all the good times rhino milk Oh, interesting that person also sent the gay one. So I think they've they've been which gay one The gay one it just said gay and and and they they've done that on the opening of each of the three streams I don't know how they did it That is Impressive do you think they have a macro or something? Maybe maybe That would be wild Um homestuck got incredibly cringe by the last third the one thing they did very well was very consistent and strict rules for time travel Fair enough. I don't know what they they are Hope they good Bringing I know you love Pixar movies But was wondering on your thoughts on the Dreamworks films like shrek kung fu panda how to train your dragon and madagascar also high rags Hello there So what I will say is I think that the Dreamworks movies A good chunk of them from that period of time were like great I think shrek is pretty excellent Actually, I know it's turned into a meme, but shrek is a really cleverly written film. Yeah shrek's great We will have a shrek. Oh, it was really great through a show. There are a lot of a lot of funny jokes like in shrek true that uh that joke with um Knights where it was like a parody of cops like they jam-packed so many clever jokes into just like one minute Like the pepper spray, but it's a pepper shaker things like Shrek space and they're like the cat nip on it puts in boots. He's like that's not mine Yeah, there's a lot of good jokes. And yeah, I uh, I really like kung fu panda. I I think kung fu phant Kung fu panda Um, I think kung fu panda is great. Um, I remember liking two I don't remember that one as well and uh over the hedge. That's a funny movie I liked over the hedge. Yeah. Yeah the verminator. He was he was pretty hilarious Um, I and I mean it's been mentioned on stream, but like wrote to eldorado. I was like, I was like, oh, yeah Really fun movie. Um prince of egypt is is great That's a really great film Um, I guess the problem is it's like pixar At the time pixar was basically just nothing but home runs whereas like dreamworks was a little bit more scattershot you had like shark tail and and sin bad and and um And madagascar is fun, but like madagascar's like not like that special Yeah, I was always like I wasn't sure how that one got a franchise, but it was like, I guess it came out at the right time Uh, I think it did it was um, I I do like it. I like madagascar like uh prince king julian. He's Funny voice Yes, that's right. Um And and yeah, there were good jokes in that too, but I remember it's just madagascar too was kind of like Yeah, this is you know something like it's it's all right. It's it's okay And I guess that's the thing is you compare it to Incredibles finding Nemo walley. Yeah, right at two It's it's kind of hard to stack up against Like those those films are In a league of their own almost when it when we're talking about that's a movie. Yes Probably is yeah, I don't know what that is Armist. Yeah, so what so that was the question like what are the thoughts on the Double check. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yes, that's but I haven't seen how to train you dragon, but I always hear that that's a really great one I've seen the first one and I thought it was good. So I What I hear is it two is good and three is bad. I can't remember I can't I can hardly remember anything about them They train dragons in it or at least we learn about how to do it. Yeah um Do do do do high rags. Do you prefer pistols rifles or shotguns and what are your favorites for each? Uh, I prefer rifles, I suppose they're generally more comfortable to shoot and they have a coolness factor to them that I enjoy And they're very satisfying to take out and they're they're just easier to shoot as well um Favorite of each I would say that I don't really have much in the way of shotgun knowledge personally Say my favorite pistol is my glock 34. I think my favorite rifle is my ak 74 so But I like all different kinds, but I like those Do you have a favorite shotgun? No, not really. I don't have much in the way of shotgun knowledge and I don't have much experience with them at all You missed my super chat. Is there a rag roll playing game playlist? No, we answered that one. Um, yeah, we let you know Yeah, I I did answer that. Yeah Oh, you said a playlist I let you know the the channels they were on Yeah, all I remember is I'll just go Nazi vampires and that that's as far as my memory goes. Yeah, uh Cooled cross on youtube. He's got one of the recent ones. I was in a couple episodes for Um and swamp playing games. I was uh, I was on there for a couple ones as well But those are channels on youtube you could take a look at and I should be on the videos there Uh, seriously if that many for musical flash slash super girl that the answers probably no, uh, it's possible But I'd say probably no man, I don't want to We got so much stuff to watch anyway That one just seems like yeah Which one the flash and super girl had a crossover that was a musical apparently No, man, everybody wants to do their musical episodes after a certain musical episode. Yeah Some success for some or less so For the sake of intellectual integrity, I will confess that the homestuck protag gains a power meant specifically to break said time travel rules Oh I feel like the more that people pitch this the less interested I am in reading it Sorry, must have missed it when my internet went to them for a few minutes. Thanks. Yeah, no problem. Um Yeah, so big maybe on a lot of those, uh Yeah, there's some people who are like, you're not efficiently doing mining and factory stuff. Don't worry. I won't ever I'm very bad at this. I just kind of like the colors and it's really good for a catch-up game just saying Yeah, yeah Um, I've been playing this game for eight hours Wow uh Pringy which went better emu or afghanistan war Well, yeah, I got nothing for you there. No, you tried Um, hello massives happy 150 rags a small group of zombies is referred to as a snider fans Oh I can believe that There you go Oh, I think this just says happy. Oh, this is nice. I'm glad you're happy I was gonna hear that you're happy. That is good. Oh, it's uh, so the next one says e-fab 150 So happy e-fab 150. Thank you. Oh beautiful Uh Through 100 episodes j saw lord of the rings movies zero times through 150 has he seen he's seen one So in two years, he will have seen the trilogy Yeah, yeah, and you can ask all about it Well, it's nearly there saw fellowship, you know two towers and return of the king in years to come. I'm sure Um e-fab is full of good boys and girls and you've brought us countless hours of entertainment Thought-filled discussions and most importantly memes Brags your wit is enduring and your puns bring much joy Pringy your australian wisdom is much needed in these dark times and long man. Thank you much love. Oh Cheers What a nice we're probably gonna get a lot of nice ones when I get more into the as you can tell I've now delved Briefly into e-fab 150 super chess Oh There's a random compliments Yep Um, it happened during that last third. I already said was when homestuck became trash So I guess that's just for the proof time travel even needs Uh consistent rules or shouldn't be included I mean to a degree you could say shouldn't be including anything unless you're doing it consistently with with the good old rules and stuff it's good good, uh discipline to have but Your time travel you really don't want to fuck that one up Yeah New video was awesome. Thank you for three years of e-fab praise the dawn also high rags Hello there CM punk return confirmed I'll see you can definitely see that this is out of date because I already know Through as in metal now booming over this thing that uh, the wrestling meme that is I I know a little of the ways of wrestling as not do I What? Yes, my fellow hate mongers my day the day has come happy e-fab 150 Well, thank you And uh happy e-fab 150 to all Mm-hmm. I hope everyone had a good time with it. I did I certainly went well One of the the funniest garlic phones and one of the worst, but yet perfectly Sort of encapsulating e-fab videos we covered with grace's review No Um, and we finally got to fucking be done with the stupid. It's not sedaba. Okay. That's not i'm not trying to offend You're just not sedaba. It's like, yeah, okay Yeah Um high rags and moorler. Thank you for all the entertainment This super chat goes out to my husband who got me into watching e-fab happy birthday you old fart now Go get good and stop dying at maps Oh, I mean dying in maps, but yeah, thank you very much and uh Feels weird right like a husband getting a wife into e-fap How does one pitch e-fap to someone do you think? How does someone How would you how would one be pitching e-fap to friends like this is a podcast where some guys talk about media for like 10 hours It's a really good 10 hours What you spend think of all the time you spend sleeping and you don't have any fun at all It's mooring nothing happens E-faps like the opposite of a good restful night of sleep. Well, maybe don't don't say like that Hello gentlemen high rags Hello Hi there play dead space one and two because of your recommendation love them curious to hear if you guys have a preference Um between one and two it's really tough to say I like them both a lot. I think I prefer the first one I need to play them both again to be more specific The way I've always remembered it is twos like refined the mechanics, but one Always preferred the the atmosphere in one Yeah, I think that's where I am too to play the second one is better. I think Um southpaw said that civil wars plot is broken. What is even life anymore? Why? Um civil war is gonna be fine. Don't worry about him. I disagree. Yeah You can you can tussle civil war's hair. He's doing fine He's gonna go run around in the park and have some fun. He's okay Um, hello massives. Thank you for another year of fabulous entertainment. Also kick chat Oh, we're gonna kick chat. Look at them. They're all hanging out Oh mean we've chat alone man Dude, so do we talk about I think we talked about this yesterday on my stream like about how fortnite It's just amalgamation of pop culture. They've added bad mike wil smith's bad boys character Okay I love how smith will smith from bad boys too. You remember you remember? Well, I guess it could be from the franchise But still from the whole franchise. That's right man well cultural garbage Yes It's it is a bit of a like it's just a blender of stuff Oh, this will be a great way to make the next four hours of driving less boring. Hey Oh, yeah, there you go. Something on the plus side Um, the long man has blessed us four hour video and the 150th e fappening that one marvelous scene made me coom so hard I watched it twice. Oh, oh, wow That's nice Hey, it was fun making it and it's people definitely like you're gonna make more and it's like the thing is it was a Random part of a video itself So maybe if I can find ways to make video essays inside video essays, then you can expect more. I don't know Do they were one of the top comments in the video is will you two make one like take a scene from the mcu and praise it? Maybe Will you tube do it? Will you Oh No Well, there you go. Well me it's maybe Congratulations on Go ahead. Go ahead. No, I'm assuming it's about the endgame stuff. Oh, sorry the fort nice to fucking hell I have totally unrelated. So that's why I'm saying go ahead. Well, I'm reading the next super chat. So it's also unrelated It's just um, I just saw another thing They're a limited edition. Hello infinite xbox series x consoles that are now selling for a thousand bucks on ebay Yay, it's not even out yet. Galparino's Yeah Yeah, that's something that everybody's upset about and it's what is to be done like you can't stop it apparently so Well, I mean it's it's yeah, it's uh That's just a full-on like industry for some people like they live that way I think the playstation 5 like it's just it's just highlighted. Yeah It that's that's just the thing now like look at how much money some of these people made well Like I'm trying to say like I imagine there's people out there who've made like that is their life. That's their career They may have stumbled into it at one point And now they just they search for all the big best information on which products are going to be the most scarce and then Trying to resell them You know chipping away like if they're more available try and sell them chipping away at the the prices You know like how there are people out there who make a career out of crypto. They just spend every day Moving it back and forth and back I mean, I mean there's definitely are people like that. It's true. But then again day trading Only one percent of people make full-time money on that Maybe it's the same with scalpers, right? Yeah, maybe there's probably a lot of people trying but only a selection succeeding Well, yeah, because you don't want to be that one fucker who's like left with 900 playstation 4's that you can't sell. Well, do you remember um I think it was in america where When the pandemic first hit people bought up a shit ton of toilet paper Oh, yeah, yeah Yeah, and they started trying to resell it and then they got in trouble with like like legally I can't remember how it was done But I remember one of the stories was like no, we just intended to deliver it to the community We hadn't done it yet Well, yeah, no it happened over here where they would start instituting a limit on how much toilet paper you could buy Like when you go to the shop, so it'd be like you can only get two sets of it was on a per asshole basis Uh, some something like that because I always wondered it's like why toilet paper Why was that the thing that like that everybody bought toilet paper specifically? Um, as opposed to what would you expect it to be? Um, I assumed it would be like canned foods or something like people freaking out and grabbing like the things You would assume the things you need if things go badly like oh, no, what am I gonna eat? What I will say about that is the there are many many forms of foods I guess and so you know even if everyone gets all the canned foods you still got loads of foods left Well, that's true. Whereas there's just toilet paper, but there's many types of toilet paper No, you're right. Um, typically there'll be like an aisle right versus the food portion of a store will be enormous Um It was what we call a a fake crisis in the sense that you would go to the store And all of the milk would be gone, but not all the skim milk. It was still there It was fine and the almond milk was all there and the coconut milk was so people just got more of what they like It wasn't actually a crisis. It's a good old-fashioned like there's loads of like industries This happens in where it's like an artificial sort of scarcity where if you would all just calm down They wouldn't have been a scarcity at all. Like you just carried on like normal It probably happened because someone The story got spread somehow and repeated that there was going to be a Toilet paper shortage and you'd never be able to wipe your ass like it civilized you and being again and everyone Connect and it was I mean that's it is a fair concern because like fuck me. That's that is not a that's not comfortable Like I gotta imagine it's not comfortable to be walking around Yeah, like um, I imagine that they would start resorting to newspapers though Right and stuff like that It got so bad that they had to institute limits on tissue paper as well like Do you guys remember there was a video that went viral where there's a guy in like a warehouse And he was like people are asking me about You know the scarcity of toilet paper Is it all coming down to zeros and just terrified and he like Turns the camera around. It's like this enormous warehouse just stuffed with toilet paper And he's like literally just give us a sec. It'll go out to all of you. It's gonna be fine Exactly. Just calm down. There's plenty of it. Just a logistics thing Yeah, we weren't prepared for all of you to buy a house worth of toilet paper like You'll be fine But now probably people people have probably stocked up on toilet paper, you know in prep You can just wash yourself with a rag on a stick. I like that reference Mahler, I think um, I think chat brings up good point. Um, a lot of people don't know what newspapers are. You might have to Remind, you know, some of our younger audience might know They're like the information packets that are get dropped in stores. They involve news. They involve sometimes what's on the television Maybe local politics There used to be a way of discovering what's happening in the world before the internet Yeah, before twitter, yeah Before twitter came along and screwed everything up I remember the real sad thing with like the toilet paper stuff was that you'd have like elderly people who were going to the shops And there was no toilet paper left. It's like man. Yeah. Oh, that's pain. That is pain. I guess I'll have to Wipe uh, I wipe my ass with them Ah, oh, am I gonna have to take a shower every time I want to poop? Harold We're gonna have to start taking showers again Harold's truly come to life The dude who's sitting on a pile of toilet paper like it's a throne. Yeah just being thrilled with yourself for getting it all Maybe I can coat a spoon and rubber and just scoop it out You got you know, you know, you gotta be ingenious at that point. You gotta just gotta be creative Uh when I first heard Bucknit added MLK. I laugh cried. Yeah, I mean Yeah, yeah, that's on my list of things to talk about for dog bites. Yes Oh That's a conversation to have That's like, what were you thinking? That sums it up. Yeah So embarrassing Uh On uncle ben why the obsession with seeing a character that never survives past the halfway mark of a film? I love uncle ben, but come on so If we're being completely good faith, they're not it's not specifically uncle ben they're looking for it's the event That ends with with great power comes great responsibility being made Manifest in an event that he will never forget They want that So spider-man is is the guy they know and he's got all the history They know because when you see it in the form of peter simply saying When bad things happen and you had the power to stop them then It's uh, your fault that the bad things happen. He says something like that to tony And the implication is he's he's already experienced something like what happened with uncle ben and it's it's you know On him to that point and that's what's important to me. I needed to know that That's a value he holds and it's representative in the actions he takes I don't need a character called uncle ben to die And say those words to make sure you know what I mean So but I think a lot of people who do on that feel that that hasn't been done And spider-man has to have that done for it to be valid You don't do spider-man without uncle ben, but I think the homecoming proves you can indeed do spider-man without uncle ben Um That line was so awkward and badly written I disagree I think it was great It was a great little way to get him to give the same idea across without saying the same words And it's a great way to convince tony that he's worth bringing in Because tony shares that same ideal especially in civil war Is I just don't understand why you have to see the same scene fucking again Got to see the old man fall over after he stops a mugging or whatever Got to see it Congratulations on the anniversary is my birthday. So we'll be back to watch later Very well Uh, I live in a rather rural area and will not be able to watch this live for whatever reason My internet decided that a live stream is unwatchable, but a regular video is not regardless. Here's to 150 Oh here's to 150. Yeah Let's do it. It's already all on mula now For your viewing preferences Well, you can only do it there I do everyone who isn't chase and the rest of you fuck you you subhuman piece of trash you hard waste of oxygen You make me ashamed to be a member of the human race. Go fuck a rusty spoon. Oh my god Wow, now that's uh, that's a subversion. You have anger in you Anger leads to hate or whatever the Yoda says hate leads to come Well, we know that yeah I long man rags and co. Here's to 150. May you reign long for another 150 I think I think we can do it another 150 I Would say yes. I would say yes to that. I'm thinking yes. I'm thinking yes Uh recommend a show called turn washington spies about the culper spy ring during the american rev Revolution a very nuanced just not not just britain bad america good I mean that's a show that I've mentioned uh that I would like to I started watching it I liked what I saw so I need to go back and Maybe we'll go with uh moller and friggled and oh, that's that one is it? Yeah turn interesting That's the one I'm all committed to more decades if I've ever I didn't mean 150 years, but I'll give it my best shot Seems like I won't be able to make it that far but you know science has done crazier things Both you and chat have helped me a lot during this pandemic and even before it Days really do go fast when I listen to you guys may they continue to go fast in the future happy three years my ewoks Thank you. Thank you glad you're having fun with it is indeed Uh, do you remember the merge of southport and wolf? Um, no not really no No, I'm not sure what that's referring to That's just on its own as well. So I don't know I don't know what you're saying You back to the the old lady who can't shit without toilet paper character No, that's a different lady Those two ladies are friends. Yeah No, we're not all the same First-ever donator long man long-term listener. Oh, we go ahead. What about the poop? I had to poop really badly Dokes aside, I seriously need to drop an otter. Do you want to go do that right now? That's okay Oh, I'm crowning. Oh, no Horrifying really Uh, congrats on three years may the dawn bless you also high rags Hello Happy 150 dumbo's play doki doki literature club Maybe Maybe yeah, maybe Um, if that minis community at least seasons one through three I don't know if that would work because we'd mainly just be laughing at it. You're in there The curse of a show being good Yeah, I mean I would recommend it watch it and enjoy it You uh, y'all you folks out there if you haven't seen it. You probably like it. I reckon Um, yeah, I may have wanted them to do a little bit more with Ben, uh, but I don't get but I too don't get the people who must yeah Who must have that scene in every iteration of pita like have we learned nothing from dc's obsession with crime alley? I mean What's the thing? Um I think it was a bvs. I think when I first saw that movie when I saw that's the fucking scene. I was like, oh my god Here we go. Where are the pills? Give me them pills It's like gunfire and then the pills are dropping down. You're like, oh no Batman's parents they got killed it This is part of what inspires him and in some ways it's like what so is it bad that they do that? It's like no, it's just that kind of think of any other way to tell the story Or do you have to tell it that way because that is the way that you tell a batman story um Referring to the pafe photoshop on their stream when they accused southpaw of trying to be wolf 2.0 merging southpaw psps and wolf's old one together. Oh I mean, I I'm not a hundred percent up to date on that whole thing that happened with the the pafe people Yeah, I don't know really anything about it. Honestly. I just I don't know why you wouldn't name yourselves after the What we would we we theorized would be like the shitty version of efap would be pafe It's like we are paid if you're like, why would you why? Um with how dc comic fans have been complaining how inaccurate staro is you'd think they'd cast patrick star to play him Yeah, I mean I wouldn't have been against it. I'll see what they do, you know Give patrick a chance. Oh, this is star. Oh Here's to three years boys They got the party emoji beers emoji rhino milk. You're all great plushies on order massives to ruin Marvel dead nuggies being made and of course, hello rags Oh, hi there wonderful Uh nothing important to say except for happy three year anniversary I've been a fan since the beginning and can't get enough of the community's content Oh Thanks so much And I hope you uh have fun with what we've got Come in What are you the best is yet to come that's what we should start saying, right? Hello chat rags and all other n words. Oh, that's very inclusive Oh, I like that. Yeah, it's everybody Morley you're gay, but happy 150 regardless. Thank you very much I haven't had any Morley a straight super chance in a while. I guess I'm just like hyper gay for now Happy 150 y'all happy 150 My first super chat discovered all your channels while at work and if I've eventually became a blessing on making my day easier also high rags Hello It's got to be so interesting to have Discovered like all the channels separately to a thing where they and then those channels start a podcast all together Be like one of them that is kind of strange if you're one a lot Well, yeah, I mean if you want to hear more from those people definitely Um, I'll be honest. I'm not a bigger fan of eFap as I used to be but I still love the show so much Also, I'm working on the first shot of Knights of old eFap Oh Good luck on whatever it is you you're doing Thank you Now this is podcasting I'd say so You know, this is the best rat I'd assume that these might be in regards to the um The the because I don't know because a few of them came in on the um the premiere sort of The chat which these cover as well I don't even know if they've gone to the point where the intro videos are played yet Hi rags. I'm building my own pc. I'm planning to play mostly retro games from the 90s Should I stick with the 60 hertz or should I go with 144 hertz? um A lot of the new A lot of the old games even though they themselves didn't go past those the new versions will So you will absolutely get a benefit from higher frame rates When you're playing the old games on new hardware, especially because a lot of them will run quite well And plus if you want to play newer games, you want to go past 60 anyway So I'd say go 144 Because it won't just apply to retro games, but any game Because 60 is kind of low not gonna lie 60 is low. It used to be what you kind of aim for but Man the times they are a change in and it is uh, it's kind of low to be at 60 You can do 120 though 120 is another step upwards All the time If I thank you for all the good times over the years a family member of mine is very sick and isn't gonna make it So thank you in advance for helping me through that. She is also high rags Oh, hello, I'm sorry to hear that Yeah, um Hope you're doing all right. Obviously this is from a couple days ago. So Uh, don't know how they're doing, but yeah, this is we are we are very much here to hopefully inform entertain and to distract in many ways Uh, I finished my meme that I was hoping I would during the black widow premiere Excellent. I don't know if we ended up showing it or not, but uh good stuff I was just wondering if you've ever seen dead man shoes 2004 very solid revenge movie with patty con sedine on sedine No That's not familiar to either of you dead man shoes I don't think about that one Doesn't ring a bell unfamiliar to me Um No Hi rags. Thanks for the entertainment guys and you too chat. Thank you for being a friend K golden girls theme or q golden girls theme Ah, I see I see a man of culture slash Immense taste you you I don't think I ever watched the golden girls, but you you must have seen some episodes, right rags Yeah, I have seen some I I like the old girls I think it's funny. Yes The hype is real. Good luck on the 24 hour lads. You can make it. We did Yeah, we did Valley, but yeah barely Um 150 yep, we made it to 150 took it took three years what we got there Now molly, you must be incredibly proud of this community and work you have created here on youtube Who would have thought? I mean, yes, it's it's a little bit unreal. Um, I was trying to make a podcast work for a while You know, I had three different ones and they were all kind of different, but um Only the one prior to this one was the the idea of like responding to videos and stuff Because that funnily enough that was something I was doing for ages before thinking it could be moved into a podcast And I think I was concerned about like copyright Um, right I was like, how how would it work especially earlier on? Yeah And then not more daunting. Yeah not to mention it There was a bit of a Sense of like you can't do that. You can't watch someone's video essay and say it's shit on the internet Because by the way, I think that's why just right spoke to me and wolf. He was so shocked. It was happening He's like you guys are streaming My video and saying it's shit like what the hell But now nowadays that's so normal loads people are doing like all kinds of things that I mean because they already did it was more so that genre Responding to like political videos was totally common and social issue stuff But um video essays where the video is like I like this movie and this is why it's like, why would you respond to that? What the fuck We were like because you're wrong You said things that were incorrect Must be stopped Um, but yeah, it's proud proud indeed Hey guys, happy 150. Have you considered doing an e-fap? Just talking about a few really good movies like prestige and why they're so great Hi ragaroo Hello to you Definitely considered it like the format would just be We give the e-fap as some homework like go watch this movie and then next week. We're gonna break it down Like we've done with a couple But uh, it's still in ideas phase, you know, just not sure yet Molar, I need an illusion illustration. Sorry from you on a comment you made in your black widow video What exactly does a goblin mudslide look like? You don't know you can't put that into an illustration that would that's against the law probably Whatever it evokes in your mind that is precisely what it is Uh, by the way, I just want to let you know that I don't expect an exact date for god of war Take your time just wanted to see if there was the realm of possibility. Yeah, I I still have an interest But um, I have an interest in a lot of projects and I don't know that I'll be able to do them all Uh, I had three different ones and they were all kinds different. They're all kind of different long man 2021 I I don't even remember what I was saying that about Um, hey guys happy 150. Have you considered doing an e-fap? Just oh wait, I read that one. Sorry I love you guys. Also. The first avengers is still the best avengers movie Yes There's not really any competition. Um, it's not in doubt. No, I yeah You could argue the infinity war is the only competition, but it's still it's like I'd still say it's got enough problems of it's not really Right of take you know taking the crown on that one You can watch age of ultron and endgame fight each other. I guess even that I think isn't like ultron is better, you know, I mean not like a Controversial I don't think it should be controversial age of ultrons better than endgame um Hello everyone and greetings from Serbia. Happy 150 and to hope for next 150 pause drive Oh boy I don't know what that translates to Hopefully it's a friendly greeting in which case pause drive back to you. Surely it is. They are they are a happy and fun people who are very jovial and whimsical I'm going bye-bye now if I keep sending super chats fringy won't get his 500 dollars I suppose I could give it here at some point and tell you to give it to him molby By gonna play some hades Well, all right. Have a fun time. Yeah, I hope you had fun. Yeah Yeah I mean, we are at eight hours and 41 minutes and I did just remember Me and rags have to do another stream tomorrow. Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I don't We'll probably probably go for another 20 minutes if that works for you guys Yeah, that's fine with me um You do That was four minutes ago talking about starting three different podcasts. You don't it. I don't remember saying it I I've already said so many things in these nine hours But um, yes, they were different podcasts about different things that that was helpful information to many people, I'm sure Out of curiosity, which youtube channels are your least favorite slash most hated for me It's the cosmonaut variety hour who I find very disingenuous There are a lot of youtube channels that I wouldn't like so I don't I don't know what I'm If we're gonna sort of remove the Like absolutely morally reprehensible ones, especially ones like the break laws or to us and you know all that stuff if we knock all them out Um, yeah cosmonauts one of the worst in terms of he like represents Just the worst genre. Yeah. Yeah, like YouTube film analysis Just doesn't it's so lazy. He's never explored exactly what it is. He uses as a metric he Just coasts on all of the topics. He's clearly not in this for like the passion of creation He's most so in it to be like Uh new superhero movies out. I can release a video and that will pay for my holiday Like that's lame But there's you know, there's there's a few others that are still like frustrating, I guess. I mean just right. It was pretty annoying Yeah They're definitely on a on the list somewhere like brown table for it's like he's not he doesn't like be angry No, he's harmless. He's just a he's just a dumb idiot. You know kind of like high top is just a dumb idiot Um, yeah Grace made me upset Yeah, um Yeah, of of like people who talk about films man That was really disappointing too because it's like good god woman Like this is this is how you do it because that's the first video we've ever seen from it really That's just production value sucks commentary is really vacuous Yeah Yeah Like i'm pretty sure quinton is just categorically actually better than most of people we just mentioned Which is interesting It's like because he makes like a huge he's made like a documentary level thing for garfield I'm just like he cares about garfield. That's nice Interesting things to really care about garfield. Yeah um Because when I think about comics to really care about it's like calvin and hobbs is uh, it's like man Calvin and hobbs is excellent as far as you know, uh, pay like, you know sink comics in our uh newspapers It's like garfield is kind of like, um garfield kind of feels like Dilbert, you know where it's like, yeah, it's it's cool. I like it It's it's like it's like a newspaper newspaper comic. Yeah Like yeah, like that's neat Yeah, I I I guess I don't want to sound too negative like I like garfield garfield's neat Well, I guess I don't want to sound too positive like Quinton is still like pretty bad at his job But I just appreciate the fact that he's doing this because he cares about the stuff I guess well Yeah, it sounds like he really does care about garfield in particular and he probably made a really great video on it He covers a lot of the history. Yeah, so he probably did make a good video. Yeah Yeah Is garfield over or is it still uh running? I think it's got to be running in some form of another x garfield's quite a property. Well Yeah, but I mean peanuts peanuts ended. Yeah garfield launched in 1978 and it is still going whereas peanuts ended I believe in 2000. I think I think it ended a uh a week Before or after the creator passed away And he actually intended to stop so like he intended to stop and then that yeah Like garfield intended to stop. No, no, no peanuts the creator peanuts. I was carol schultz Yeah, he uh, he chose to stop peanuts and then shortly before or after it ran to its end. He passed away Um that ran from 1950 to 2000 50 years 50 years Do you? Yeah, oh, let me oh Not the exact day. He's older than I am No, you share he died on your birthday Oh, that's it. He died his his birthday is in november. Yeah, I confused him with uh For whatever reason I confused him with charles dark No, I'm not sure why this is the The interesting one is um, are you for more probably is more familiar with it, but um life in hell uh the Yeah, it was matt grainings comic that he did before the simpsons that ran into 2012 Like he he just kept doing it. Yeah, um, which is crazy to think about considering you'd assume He'd be really busy making tv shows, but found enough time to continue doing that comic trip Yeah, um, I will say though. Yeah, calvin and hobbs. Um I remember as a kid I liked calvin and hobbs like there was something really neat about it But I don't as a kid. I don't think I could have told you what I thought was so great about it Um, but as an adult it's like man calvin and hobbs. It's it's sharp Um And it feels really authentic as well like calvin feels like a a kid to me He feels like a like an adventurous mischievous uh kid going on adventures hanging out with with uh Hobbs And doing all that stuff and making these snappy observations about the world and stuff And I think the thing that is really neat about calvin and hobbs is almost like what what it makes you think about when it comes to Meaningful relationships or like meaningful people or characters like hobbs might as well be real It doesn't really matter whether or not he's a toy or not He's real to calvin and he's kind of and he's real to us as well as people who read the comic Um Also, it's just got a neat art style calvin and hobbs is a is a very nice looking comic So yeah, that that's my recommendation calvin and hobbs really good And I respect bill waterson a lot especially for his stance on trying hard not to Super monetize the comic and lean super hardcore into merchandise and also for his willingness to actually end it um takes balls He ended it when it was at its prime like it was it was still really successful And he just decided yeah, no i've i've run my course. This is uh, I think i've done what i've wanted to do with this So yeah, um, I would say calvin and hobbs is like one of the best comics like newspaper comics of all time Before it got really shitty uh as many of them do um With the wizard of id One of my favorites a lot of the newer stuff is really crap But I remember when it uh, but when it started and for a long time. It was really good. I really like the wizard of id I remember the number of it. I remember that was uh, I remember Um distinctly simpson's comics that were the comic strips in the newspaper because every sunday um Because I had the comics in the in the regular one But there was like a section in uh In the in the newspaper that was like the kids one where it had all the stuff that was already answered Towards you and and yeah, like the front page of that one just had all the comics So there were simpson's comics garfield calvin and hobbs um Wizard of id I think was in that one too uh, it was I I I always got really excited to to uh to read those comics man big fan as a kid But specifically more so towards like the cartoon Ones rather than like superhero comics, you know simpson's comics future armor comic Calvin and hobbs um, and yeah someone has mentioned the uh The calvin and hobbs artwork we got a fan on at one point. I still remember that one. That's true. Yeah It's super cute there is um Oh, oh, that's the wisdom. Yeah, that's the wizard of id I remember there was um, oh damn. I can't remember what it was called But there was and I'm not even sure if this was australian or if it was like a International one I think it was set in the desert like it was it was specifically a place that was in the middle of nowhere um I can't remember as a town or damn. I can barely remember anything about what was the one about that ginger kid That was like a it not archie um There was there was a comic for that too um All right, it might have been the far side that might have been it. I might be talking about that. I'm not sure damn It eludes me at the moment Yeah, I don't know I would say I I do like dilbert, but I feel like a lot of dilbert Like dilbert is something that you would get a lot more out of if you worked in like middle management in an office Yeah It's like a lot of comics where older dilbert is just better than It just it didn't get better over time Well, I I guess it's interesting because Funny because I uh, I like comic strips a lot and I like making them But I just don't know that I have the capacity to do that kind of output like it kind of Amazes me that creating a comic every single day like a comic strip and having to be funny and interesting Um, it's basically how do I come up with a joke that I can put into cartoon format and just do it that many times I don't I guess it doesn't it doesn't seem difficult to me I think it is very difficult as somebody who has tried to do it many times. I think I'm getting better at it Yeah, I think it's more of a um Like a consistency thing and the willingness to do it part. It's the the attrition of it the dedication to it I think what I I find to be the challenging part but the thing that makes it a really interesting and worthwhile art form that You are trying to You are trying to achieve a lot in a very short amount of time Um, you because you usually only have four panels And you got to find a way to make a joke work in that in those four panels And it's like at that point you really need to be using every line and every part of the page very carefully Um to get to get what you want out of uh out of the page I think that's the challenging part that you are working with very significant restrictions in terms of format um But I mean but at the same time four panels three panels really works well for the standard joke structure Which probably explains why it is that that's why the three or four panels I know that again on calvin and hobbs bill waddeson fought really hard To get big colorful splash pages for the uh the sunday comics Like he fought very hard to get basically nine panels like half a comic page That was something that wasn't common for syndicated comics at the time And I mean they were they were really amazing like those were the ones that sort of flexed the uh the style of like Oh really demonstrated his talents really beautiful watercolors So I like calvin and hobbs. What can I say? I think I think it's a really good comic I think that's fair bring it i'm gonna i'm gonna approve. I think it's okay that you think that Yeah, all right doesn't sound like you approve I wanted to make sure it was clear because it sounded like it might not have been That sounds upsetting but Yeah, um a lot of a lot of good appreciation. I like that I used to draw comics in High school and stuff and I had my comics in a the school Uh, I was it was about rome. It wasn't if it was a great inspiration, but it was about rome And the it took place in ancient rome and I would draw these roman comics On my latin tests and I'd get bonus points if the joke oh boy That's neat I I did a lot of comics at school as well That was like a bigger that when I was like 10 I remember that that when I was between the ages of 10 and 12 My well have been my most fruitful years in terms of productivity on creative projects um My lack of self-awareness really helped me just make stuff Because I didn't know how shit it was You just make it and push through and do it and um I remember I got so Ambitious that I even made a crossover comic with all of these characters that I I'm pretty sure I've told the story silo and lobsi They were in that one Uh, uh, I think the characters it was like gangsters. It was fred Al I think those were their names I remember there was a polar bearer in there as well But I drew the lobs to the most because it was just an oval with eyes and a mouth And it was even bound Like pages stapled together like an actual comic. I did that. I don't know Yeah, I don't know if it's anywhere here now. It might be lost forever and perhaps that's a good thing, but um Fuck that was I had a lot of fun doing that as a kid. That was really creatively fulfilling I made a spider-man model and his Yeah, yeah, a little little guy next to him called sidekick. That was his name and he was a little creature He was like a little creature that was shaped like an eight And he had like legs all over him. And so all his thing was just kicking people from the side Uh, you are wrong and you must be stopped said long man before shooting the video essayist in the back of the head Did he deed done? He looked at the sunset. What does he do next rags and fringy? Oh my Is that the beginning or the end of a comic there? So wait, so the ending was that you looked at the the sunset Yes um Maybe you start walking into the ocean until you sink into it and then you just never come back up. Oh Well, I mean is that maybe that's what you wanted, you know To go to the bottom of a sea That's that's more sad in a different way Yeah Well, maybe it's what you wanted because you could breathe on the water You just want to go see the fishies Like bojack in episode uh for season three The episode I thought would be good and then it wasn't and then everything started The walls started to fall down That was definitely one of those sort of like, what do you think it was like I have questions There's a couple of questions. It's funny because you when you when I said, what did you think in my head? I was like He probably should have fallen like why is gravity only working occasionally in this episode? And also Why didn't anybody tell bojack that he needed to press the button to speak? We wouldn't have the episode the way it was otherwise And how does a pen work on the water? Why would there even be pens on the water if it's just gotta wash off the paper? Yeah, that those kinds of jokes don't work for me because I'm just like they wouldn't they wouldn't Remember he like opens his Crisps or whatever in his room and then it'll just fly everywhere. It's like, what did you what did you expect? Like how is that? I don't consider that funny. I'm just like, yeah, that's what would happen Yeah, all right, by the way to address and chat it was ginger megs. That was the comic somebody mentioned it That was the comic I was thinking of Um first super chat if it weren't for jeremy mentioning he was going to be on e5 27 I would never have found you guys been a wild ride. She is Hey boy. She's been there for a while. Yeah. Yeah That was the um the episode where I think the toxic brood was born actually 27 Oh, yeah, that was that's that's taking it back An everlasting meme that one Toxic brood Hey fringled. Do you think Arthur Morgan's acts leading up to his death redeemed him? Second question. Do you think Arthur is? Oh, there you go. Second question Do you think Arthur is one of gaming's best protags? I think that he is probably one of gaming's best protagonists in terms of how well written is But I don't think that he redeemed himself. I think I think that I think that what we're meant to take away from Arthur is that in a different life He could have been a really good person Uh, what I I would assume that the high honor is like the canonical way to go I don't I don't I don't know who low honor Arthur Morgan is. You know what I mean? But I uh, I think I think that's what you meant to take away from it It's not that he is a good person But that he could have been a good person if he hadn't been wrapped up into this life I think the problem is it's like he does do a lot of things to try and be good But it's worthwhile to remember the context of this like he is a criminal for many years He's killed a lot of people Stole a lot of money and in order to like help John I feel like this it's it's been out for three years Um In order to like and I don't know if you play red to one You know this anyway to get like John into the life that he wants It still means like killing pinkinsons and stuff like that So I don't I feel like it's it's all you all have to you have to remember in the context of like who this character is and what life he's lived Um And I think it's more meaningful to think about the idea of what does it mean? What what does it mean to like chase redemption as somebody? like that It just means trying to do as much good as you can with the with the time that you have like he kind of You know Arthur doesn't really have an opportunity to really make up for everything that he's done that like he can at least try to do um Things to make stuff right. I mean he says that a lot. Um And yeah, one of the things that works in Arthur's favor is loyalty That's like a big aspect of him and I think I think even when you have characters who do really bad things Like loyalty tends to just make them much more likeable. I think some loyalty and trustworthiness just seem to be like really We just like that stuff and characters. Hmm Like loyalty is really important But yeah, I think I think he's I think he's quite well written Author of Calvin and Hobbes retired at 37 because he didn't want his series to become like Garfield by going on too long And hurt the soul of the series. He also never made any toys or plushies chad Yeah, and I guess I guess it's interesting because like dude, I would have I would like a Hobbes plushie I was going to say like why not like that's that's just the cool vision. I see like, you know I think the problem was that from his perspective It was just a matter of he felt like it was selling out Like bill waddison was very much Hardcore into like creative integrity and stuff like that like to a degree that may well have even been excessive And that I would have liked at Calvin and Hobbes plushie But um, I do respect the hell out of him for like saying I'm done. Yeah, I'm done And then and then stopping instead of just continuing especially it's like the height of his career still making money from it. Yeah um Yeah, I mean, you know, some of this stuff is like, yeah He's like, I don't want to sell out. It's like, but what if everyone wants one of those? Well, I guess I guess it's worthwhile to think about the context of the time where it's like Doing it for one thing probably would have meant doing a whole bunch of merchandise I mean just look at Garfield look at how much merchandise there is for Garfield and how much ability does he have To say yeah, we'll do plushies, but that's it or like we'll do Yeah, we'll do this and that's it and I don't mean plus there's books. So it's like you can still read the comic. So Yeah, make your own. I've got every uh, I've got every uh, Calvin and Hobbes ever made. I got this big ass book I don't have every but yeah, it's fucking It's a big ass. It's what it's a impendium of three books And they're just huge I mean 10 years of content like that's a lot That's a lot of pages Yeah, it is it is heavy too Yes, sir I would like to grab some more of those because yeah, I have one and unfortunately got water damaged when I took it on a trip with me So Or did you go to the ocean? I know I it was just It was it was nothing to do with how wet the place was I just accidentally put my backpack in a puddle No, I realized far too late Um, it's okay. It's it's not it's not like destroyed or anything. I just I just want to get a better one. Yeah With more of the comics Has anyone got their plushies yet of moeller and rags they nope that they deliver Yeah, early descent. Well, yeah, we have them. Yeah, I have one and boy is it great I love it the good little muffin, but uh, you guys get them early december is when they will be delivered Because they got to be made A giant plushie factory Bill watson calvin and hobs and gary larson's the far side are easily my favorite newspaper comics Aaron magruder's boondocks is also fascinating to me, especially given. He's close to my polar opposite politically I mean, yeah, I Can enjoy a lot of stuff from people you disagree with on a lot of Politicles or even fundamentals is there is a lot of stuff you can uh Yeah, no a lot of things humans can relate on even if you disagree on other things Wonderful when calvin's mum yells hobs name when calvin lost him in the woods played as humor, but we all felt it Yeah Yeah I was 30 minutes behind sorry if this was mentioned already but watch internet historians video about the virus to learn about the toilet paper issue Yeah, that's probably where I got most of my information from um Long man, I have a criticism for your black widow video at the very end you show a spoilery clip from the movie extraction without a warning I'm not too bothered about that. I even thought about it when I was making it. I was like listen That character gets introduced and becomes evil like straight away. It's it's not too. I think what you're watching extraction for I mo is much more for just can chris sam's with get through this storyline by truly banging That's how he can avoid the most part um And you know it happens pretty quick in that clip Um, and I think that if you're not paying too much attention and you just say for the skeletal meme You're probably gonna be you know, it'll be fine um I watched rags until I recommended e-fap when I waiting for another video by him walls Also, I like the new videos of rags and mohler Wow As am I Also any of you fans of shell silvestines comic strips Um, what what would they let me look at whether he I'm not familiar with them Uh, neither am I I will assume rags is not either No, no, what what is it again? Shell silvestine Apparently it was the giving tree was one Where the sidewalk ends scary stories to tell in the dark I can't hear I feel like I've heard of that Um He Just he's falling up Where the sidewalk ends Like draft in a half Don't bump the glum giving tree So the question is do I know of him? Yeah, like if you're familiar with his walk I read the giving tree when I was Very very young But that's basically it. I never read the others. I never read where the sidewalk ends or um, a light in the attic He doesn't look like how I imagined he would Let me let me show you a picture Oh Not at all how I would imagine Um, but yeah, I was gonna say we we were gonna go until nine hours with seven minutes over so Uh, yeah, I'm just tired I guess we'll get those last two. Yes I guess we could well one of them is a bit. I don't know that I want to read it Well, so even even if it weren't spoilery for a certain dog out where uh, that would be a huge topic Yes, that would take us a while. Um But uh, we'll probably revisit that at some stage. Yes. Yes. Don't worry. You'll get answer to that at some point. Um What's the most trouble you ever got into at school? Huh I was fairly well behaved I was Getting away with it. I got a trouble a lot. Do you know I got into a fight once. So, um, uh, Literally a bit of word Was thrown at my face and it it's scarred down my eyebrow and I think I told you guys this before It's like one of my favorite scars. It looks really good, but at the time It um, it cut open and blood just splashed across my whole face And people were like terrified that I would be dead I was like, oh To me, I was just like, I feel fine. I mean, yeah, I mean it's a lot of blood come out blood spreads quick So it can make you look really like fucked up. Yeah, yeah I didn't get in trouble much at all. I know that there were some teachers. It didn't like me, but there was never a justification for me to ever get in trouble So What's that? Because you were Australian Um, it was usually because I I I've gotten a lot better at regulating my volume I know more can relate because I'm pretty sure you've said this to me, but like when you have a deep voice It just projects The base carries It can be very difficult to manage volume control though. Admittedly a lot of that Also was due to a lack of self-awareness, but yeah, that was that But again, it's just like, uh All fringy there being loud um Yeah Um, I didn't I didn't really get in trouble. So I but I guess the problem is I'm I'm sure I Have gotten in trouble for some but I'm not I can't remember what it would have been Yeah, I think I was I was I think I was pretty good at not getting caught. So Nothing really comes to mind. Um I'm trying to think I have a lot of childhood trauma memories of like from school that I own Don't enjoy Oh, no, it's it's it's fine. I'm I'm mostly over it now um But there are some of them like bad memories of like man people can be fucking assholes Yeah, it is interesting to think back to different impactful parts of your life And you're like, man, if I was me now then I would fucking they wouldn't have gone away with something like that Yeah, kind of. I mean, I'm pretty sure there's I'm pretty sure that there's like I'm not sure if I've told this story. I'm not even sure that I want to because like I don't want to give Give away that particular nugget of information Um, yeah, there are just these instances. I can remember it where it was. Um, just like shitty experiences interacting with other students But then a lot of fun memories like playing halo c e on the library computers Hiding in the corner so that the librarians couldn't see us playing games Good times Some good times. Yeah, some good times. That's true. Yeah uh Yeah, the most trouble I ever got into was probably that instance. So I was I and the person involved Um, I can't remember how that fight started, but let's say both of us got uh a decent Result and so it was I don't think it was seen as like who's that follows both of you fucked up Right Um Give us your nugget. No, they're my nuggets. Give us your nuggets He'll silver scene a look great stuff also stop responding and go to bed doggo frogo and longo very well Oh very soon. Yeah, I guess that's about that The stream is officially unlisted. No more can be sent in Goodness gracious, which means now is simply on us to end. Um, of course It's worth mentioning one more because you're gonna just run out of time eventually, but Zeplus is That's the french way of saying plushies if you guys didn't know They are currently available. They are they are sitting there on the the digital shelf And they must be touched in terms of their boutons in order to purchase them If you wish to have them The link will be in the description of this video because I haven't put it in the live version Which was just a bad move on my part, but thunders linking them in chat. Thank you very much um They they they be looking fine Dandy and you have nine days remaining We'll let you know when you've got um Well, I guess hours left or whatever. Well depends on what the next dfap will be. Um, what we will try and do Is a catch-up stream at some point in the near futures um The nightmare has become reality. We are we have got a lot to catch up on What will likely happen is we'll make a few offline efaps with the copyright memes And uh potentially other ones and we'll just answer a whole bunch on them and release them As well because now we're in the new year and if you guys remember there are 52 weeks Between the things so that means we get two weeks off of efap So, you know, those could be spent at any point And what we'll probably do when spending them is do some catch-ups or whatever makes the most sense to me So, um, unless is there anything else you guys want to talk about? Oh, no, I think I'd better uh, I think I'd better call it there Get my what out of here on that dusty trail as I say, yes Um, thank you all so much for joining us efap 151. I'm sure it won't be long before we hit 200 Yeah, we're going before you know it next event. I suppose It's gonna be efap halloweenie and then efap christmasenie And then and then new year and then we're all the way back to heading toward gadelp season as if it wasn't Only recently that it felt like I released one of those, you know Time it flows so quickly and this is the thing We've got a couple of weeks of like it's kind of chill in terms of releases of new media But uh, it won't be long before we get a tidal wave of new stuff again Um, but in the meantime the fringy comic. Yeah, we got rough to page 14 There's escapades. There's drama. It's fun. We can like find it for any Oh, right. I twitter me on twitter. That's there goes goes twitter She who is it's twitter fringy on twitter and dubious sanity on twitter go check him out You are already everybody no excuses Also, no excuses on you. I got I got my plushes. You've just reminded me to get him. So I got him. Oh my god I got some together for 10 off The rags plus show and then the the the mues plus show It's a nice little combo. All right, you can put them up when you book shock go to sleep with them Yeah, they belong together. They will look after everyone and everyone. Um Alrighty, thank you all for joining us. Thank you so much for the donations for the interactions and we will catch you at least Maybe not, you know, it'll probably be before that but next week when we talk about whatever it is We may be talking about World of media. Um, we'll see you then. Wait, how did somebody just send in a super chat? It's unlisted I thought that was the whole point youtube Racism that said Loki set up spider man. No way home. Yeah, it's multi-purpose bullshit You call that setting up We're gonna try and pretend as best as possible that it doesn't exist. All right. Don't worry about it Literally have to the more they're just gonna ignore all the shit they said All right. Well, thank you so much. Yeah. Good night, everybody. Lol. I stole that one too. Good night. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye Bye everybody Do we still have the holy chat? Do we yeah, okay, see we read that one too. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye Do we now oh, that was the toxic monger of the Hackelbrood