 Mike, how did the practice go today? Go today here with the doctors, how'd it go for the offense? It was like y'all had a good day. It went well. Honestly, I think it's just great to actually go against somebody else and practice, especially for the ones and guys who are not playing in the preseason. So it's actually fun and good for us. And then for you, back, you've got to press the hold and so forth. How did the line do? And I know they're not passing to the ground, but you still got to send the leg to run. Yeah, like I said, it felt good. Honestly, no matter if it was a zero game or 20, it actually felt good to actually go against somebody else. But overall, I think our old line did pretty good today. Earlier, we were talking yesterday about trying to balance getting young guys' carries versus making sure you get enough to get ready for the video season. How much do you think you need in preseason to be ready for week one versus writing and kind of seeing who's going to be upon you? Honestly, it's whatever coach wants. If he wants me to go ahead and play in the first quarter, I will play in the first quarter. Whatever coach thinks I need, I will be in there. Is there, for you personally, is there an amount of work that you need to see every year? You're a vet now, you know your body. Like when you're like, I need acts in order to get to make sure I'm at where I want to be. Is there like a, in your head? Is there a number in my head? No. Going into year seven, honestly, I can't tell you that there's a number. All I know is I'm prepared for whatever coach wants me to do. Did these practices hold more weight than maybe some against your own team, even though you're not going to the ground? Can you get a better picture of where the run game is at? Yeah, it's most definitely, I would say, you know, harder, you know, more fun to actually go against somebody else. So it's great work for our offensive line, our receivers to actually go against somebody else. Mike, so much attention with the run action in the passing game. Can you get a feel on how effectively it's working, like you guys are really selling the run to open up some of the passes? Yeah, I get a great feel for all our play action, honestly, whenever there's a play action and, you know, I can spring a guy open, you know, I get excited about that and happy for my guys. So I actually enjoy it to be honest with you. Going back to what I thought before, is having these types of practices maybe lessen some of that work maybe you would need? Like, you guys are just going against your own guys every day, does that change that metric? Not really. Only thing that's different is these guys don't know exactly what we're doing and start up going against our guys. We've seen it a couple of times. So like I said, it's great work for us actually see their defense. We play them like week three. So it's actually good for us. And like I said, it's fun to actually go against somebody else. Do you wish that y'all had more games, like every team? Because some teams are doing two this year. No. No. Why is that? I wish I had more joint practices. No, I mean, it's like a game every day, to be honest. So do what I would, you know, prefer more joint practices or no. On that note, you guys do play them in a regular season. Yeah. How much can you show them? That's a great question. I don't know. I mean, even if we did show our hand, it's like it could be different once we play you got these guys week three. So I mean, you just never know. We could show anything and come week three, it can be totally different. What about Caden's dummy call and stuff like that? It can be totally different. Guys get paid a lot of money to learn on the fly. So you know how strategies, you know, everything changes week to week. So it's just how quickly guys can adapt and learn. Mike, I wanna ask you something because you've been kind of outspoken about it on social media. There's a taunting call down here on this field. What do you think about that emphasis? Good, good, good. Uh, the ta... I won't get fined for this, will I? Not by me. Uh, the taunting, it's just, guys love to show their emotions when they make big plays. So to get a flag for showing your emotions, I think it's just kind of, you know, it's kind of messed up to be penalized to show your emotion. As long as you're not directly in the guy's face and taunting, if he's in the area, they throw a flag. It's kind of, I wanna say it's not fun. It's just kind of hard to not show emotion when you make a big play. So I don't know how guys are gonna handle that. But don't you, but do you think, you've been around long enough. Do you see this in free season, maybe week one and then a tape or something? Yeah, like I said, we all know, you know, referees every year have an emphasis of something that they're working on and taunting is one of them. So honestly, I pretty sure we wanna see a lot of more taunting flags that won't be called during the season. But I think it's just something they wanna take out of the game. I understand, you know, you don't want guys to taunt other guys. That's very understandable. But showing emotion, I don't think you should be flagged for that. Is it frustrating, because I mean, you've been in the league long enough where you've seen the pendulum swing in both ways. Like when you started in the league, you were like, maybe even stricter than this. And then they're like, no, you guys don't do what you want. Now it's coming back up. Is that frustrating to the player where it's like it's helping them manage it? I wanna say it's frustrating because it's just something we gotta adjust to. Like guys get paid a lot of money to adjust. So it's just something you gotta know, you gotta be smart about. You can't be in a guy's face and do other stuff. But we just gonna have to learn, I guess from NBA guys or something. Speaking of penalties, I mean, and you didn't play last week, but how did you notice the coaching staff address guys about all the penalties that happened in that preseason game? Honestly, going into games, you should know who the referees are, what they have in the past, what they called in the past. The things they look for, this ref, calls more holding calls in this ref and all that type of stuff. So honestly, it's just all about being aware of the refs you have in the game. So knowing your personnel. Are there are whom ever addressed, there are a lot of penalties last week in that preseason game, again, you didn't play, but just how he addressed the team on how more of you guys get to tighten that up. Tell the guys, stop doing what they're doing. I don't know how you want me to tell you that. It's just those penalties, that's something that, we talk about foregoing games, self-inflicted wounds, that's something we wanna eliminate. So the penalties, the young guys, I'm pretty sure they learn from them. Coach, we can emphasize it, but it's all about our guys going out there and making sure they're not holding and getting these calls that they had last week. Like I said, just learn from them. All right. You have got a couple of, the younger guys in your group, Caleb and Hock, how do you think that they've been doing I think they've been doing great. Caleb is the bull in the China shop in our room. JVN's a smaller guy. Those guys, they're handling everything well. You know, they just gotta continue to get better every day, learn every day. And they're doing the best they can. All right, thanks guys.