 Hi, my name is David. I'm from Orlando. I'm so happy to be back at WordCamps. It's awesome. Before I start, who here has heard the term? Jason, you can come in. Now you're just going to hurt my feelings. No, okay. Who here has heard of the Indie Web before? That's fair. Who's heard it before? Yes, I can. So I've given this kind of presentation before. I've actually added a lot to this one because last time I gave this presentation was probably in 2019 at a WordCamp. And over the past few years, this topic has dramatically increased. And there's a lot more exposure. A lot more people will know the things I'm talking about, which is awesome. I feel like I'm not just going like, here's this weird little thing that only a couple of us use. And now I can say it feels like I've heard of Mastinon before. I've heard of Wordpress before. So that's easy. So what happened since the last time I gave this presentation? Well, there's this little website. Some of you may have heard it before. The WordPress community usually organizes on it. I'm not on that website anymore, even if I was able to access it. I know it's been a while since I took this screenshot. You can tell by the URL, but it still fits. Some of these websites are maybe not the most reliable anymore. Also, is anyone here like an active Redditor? Are you an active Redditor now or just before June of this year? I mean, it's fair that some people, I don't fault anyone for sticking around Reddit after the blackout. That's fine. We can all shame you. That's why that's why there's a divide of the room. So you didn't know we were actually sorting you in, you know, Redditors versus not Redditors. Yeah. So I also don't really use Reddit anymore. Those unaware, there was a heavy backlash earlier this year against the CEO of Reddit and the company itself for a variety of reasons. I agree with most of the reasons. And also, it's just a reminder that platforms, platforms are not your friend. Companies are not your friend. Surprise. They have things that they're trying to do and it's fair for them to want to do that. But to devalue the actual product in favor of what they think the product is, is a little disheartening. You wouldn't be on Reddit if other people weren't on Reddit. Reddit, the website itself, is valueless. The content produced by you and everyone else is where all of the value lies. And I think that we should be keeping that value for ourselves for the things that we create. I actually don't talk about Lemmy in here because I didn't think that was still a little bit too new, but there are federated Reddit alternatives. So most of you have heard of the term IndieWeb before, but I'm just giving the definition that you can get directly from IndieWeb website. A community of individual personal websites connected by simple standards based on the principles of owning your own domain, using it as your primary identity, to publish on your own site, optionally syndicating elsewhere, and to own your data. That's a long way to say something that might already sound familiar to anyone who's familiar with a motto of democratized publishing. IndieWeb core principles, in short, from that statement and what most of you talk about when they say, is your site IndieWeb compliant? Your content is yours. You own the things that you create. You are better connected to other people via that content. And most importantly, you are in control. You get to choose what happens with the things that you create and with the connections that you make. So with the idea of the IndieWeb, again, the IndieWeb I should clarify if IndieWeb is not a platform or anything like that. It's more of a mindset. That you can host your own sites wherever you want. You can make changes to your code. You get to control the design of your website. And you can move things around where you want. You can move to a different platform. You can move to a different host. Whatever. So, what does this sound like to you? Yes, it's me, Tom from MySpace again. You know, I want to say two of three of you are correct. Sorry. Kind of sounds like a platform that all of us know and use, right? WordPress already has all those things. You have a WordPress website. Congratulations. You are part of the IndieWeb. So see you. But there's a little bit more to it than just having your website. This is a great starting place, you know, having your own WordPress site. But there's a lot more that you can do, both to empower yourself and to make it easier for others to interact with you. So I'm going to start the presentation by talking about some WordPress plugins. I gave a quick little overview of this talk to somebody in the hallway a few minutes ago. And I said, if you already have your own WordPress website where you have the ability to install plugins, you can implement every single hands-on thing today, if you so choose. One of the best things about me giving this presentation now versus a few years ago is all the tools I'm going to talk about have had dramatic improvements because more people have eyes on them. I actually added one, activity pub plugin. The reason I added the activity pub plugin, excuse me, and yes, I see I messed the title. Oops. I added that one earlier because earlier this year, the person who wrote the activity pub plugin for WordPress was acquahired by automatic. And so just in the past month, they've released a major version release and a lot of minor releases. The plugin works really well now. I hope I didn't before. So I didn't want to make this super long here. Who here has heard of or uses mastodon? Or I'm going to say that because it's the most popular activity pub platform. All the other ones I'm going to list would be even fewer people have heard of them. If you don't use that, who's heard of Blue Sky? So Blue Sky itself, I'm going to clarify, does not use activity pub the protocol directly, but it works in a similar way. So I have the activity pub plugin on my website. Yeah, I'm going to love saying that over and over again. So here's an example of what this plugin can do for you. And it can do more than this, but the most basic example that people, I found that people are really connected with. My username on my website is David. Let's say Alexis had a profile on my website. He would then change that to Adalexis. And then you have the domain of the website. My personal website happens to be david.garden. So I'm going to use you as an example. You can follow atalexis, at, and possibly creative. Assuming you have this plugin installed via an activity pub platform like mastodon. When I post a new post on my website, it will automatically go to that platform. Additionally, if I write a post and I don't have it automatically post and I just copy the link to that page and go like, I wrote a new blog post. It's about whatever. And I paste it. And I have that link back to my site. So what that means is if somebody sees that post, think of this as a Twitter status update, a Facebook status update. If somebody sees that post on an activity pub-enabled site and likes it, boosts it, replies to it, leaves a comment, something like that, it will show up on my original website. So you get to bring some of the conversation back to your own site. Side note, which I didn't actually add here, is I write the post on my site. Michelle follows it and she writes a reply comment via mastodon. I reply back to your comment. Sorry. Your reply goes to my website as a comment. I reply to your comment on my website. It will then automatically go back so that you will see it on the platform you're on. That's something that I think is really important about the indie web and the decentralized web is that I'm only going to cover a few platforms because there's so many out there and all of them are going to come off as blank clones because other things already exist. But those platforms are very useful to be interconnected with one other. So for instance, if you use YouTube, there's a platform called Invidias. If you use Spotify, there's one called Funk Whale. If you use Instagram, there's a platform called PixelFed. These are ones that are very similar to those. But an idea is that okay, I have my mastodon account. I see something on PixelFed that I like. You know, I go there and I'm like, oh, I love that photo. I can interact with it without having to create an account on PixelFed or on that website. I see a video. I can like it, leave a reply, subscribe to them without making an account on that. I'll call it YouTube clone. But yeah, basically video hosting website. This is kind of what the internet was. It was kind of what the web was originally made to do. But we over time have siloed things off or I should say, you know, large companies, Facebook, Twitter, you know, and the like have siloed things off to say like, you have to interact with just us. Was anyone using Instagram at the time that you would cross post between Instagram and Twitter? Like that you could easily just, you know, cross post the same things there. And then they shut that down in 2013, 2014. Not very long after Facebook bought Instagram. You know, shut down that feature. Because why let somebody be able to go off their platform? You know, that doesn't serve that. The next plugin I'm going to talk about and suggest is the indie web plugin itself. This plugin I would like into Jetpack if you're already familiar with the Jetpack plugin for WordPress. The idea of this plugin isn't that it does things directly, but that it's like a hub for a lot of other indie web tools. What it does is instead of activating all those tools, it gives you like a nice little dashboard to install those third party plugins and control the settings for them. So it's just a way to have a bundled installer for a lot of these other tools. Which the reason for the activity of public one first is because I was the most popular people like, but you can also get that through this plugin. Next there's another plugin that you can get called Web Mention. So web mentions are a thing that your website can do to notify other websites when you link to them. So it's a little bit different than say leaving a comment, you know, on a post and having it go back to wherever the comment was. This is a lot more like, I see that, I'm going to pick on everyone in the room whose names I know, I see that Renata wrote a post on her website and I wanted to respond to your post. And so I write my own post on my website and I say, and here's the link where I got it from. Or you know, here's what I'm responding to. Assuming that both of us have web mentions enabled, you will get notified, hey, David wrote this post in response to your post. And then vice versa, mine will link back to each other. There are some platforms that have web mentions enabled by default. One platform that I'm going to put an asterisk because I don't know if this changed, but it's medium, the medium blogging platform. Another really nice thing about, one of the nice things about medium is that they allow you to use canonical URLs. So for those worried about being able to post your content to another website on yourself, they do send back all the SEO back to your site. But that's one of those platforms where you can respond to other people on your own platform and notify them that you've responded. The main thing that I, the main use that I find in this is it allows people to hold conversations better in a more long-term format. You know, you can, I can see that Jason wrote something interesting and I'm like, hey, I want to respond to this. I see people do it all the time in the web dev world. You know, Chris Coyer of CSS tricks previously, that's like half his blog now is responding to other people's blog posts. And I love seeing like, oh, what is this person who I, you know, respect think of these other people who I also respect in a positive way? What nice things they think enough to write a blog post on their own website. It's a better way to like form communities. And also, again, notify those people like, hey, we're talking about you. More importantly, notify you, the person who's not either of those two people, what it's in response to. So an example that I wanted to give of implementing activity pub is an old screenshot. Ignore it. Yeah, wow. Okay. This is a screenshot from 2019 is that I wrote a post. I posted that onto Twitter. And this comment that I got here is from somebody responding via Twitter, via a tweet. These likes, reposts and mentions are all things that happened on Twitter. Well, actually, I think some of them were messed up. But basically, it is that I can show my website how people interact with other places and, you know, have that like social proof that people are interacting. But also, more importantly, something like this, when somebody comments somewhere else, they'll be able to see, you know, people will be able to see here where people are talking about. And I will update those screenshots. I literally, no, no, no, I took the screenshot. I'm not going to say I first gave this presentation on 2019, but I am going to say that I should give screenshots for some of it. Another example that I want to give just to show other ways how you can interact is there's another plugin that you can get called MicroPub. MicroPub is a thing that will allow you to create posts on your website using a third party platform. So sure, there are things like I only know Mac specific ones like Bear and IA writer. And there's several writing platforms that allow you to post directly to WordPress from them. But using MicroPub, excuse me, allows you to have other platforms that are tailored to a specific use case. So the example that I have here is Indie Book Club. It is kind of like a version of Goodreads. They have their own publishing format that you can use that will do things that are specific to reviewing books. So, you know, sure, I can like write a blog post and say, hey, I read this book, it's awesome, whatever, but I'm not going to be able to get all of the data that that website would want. Using this MicroPub platform, I can still publish things in a format that they like. So the use case here is as opposed to just publishing, you know, going to Goodreads if you're familiar with that one, writing your review on a book and Amazon owns that content forever, you get to talk about it in your own space and send it to other people who also have interest in you or your book or whatever you're talking about. Pretty much the entire ethos here of everything I'm saying is why let someone else own the things that you create. Another one of the plugins that I want to talk about is called Indie Off. So who here's ever gone to a website and they say login using email or more often now the first thing they say is using Facebook or using Google, you know, using whatever. So that's something called OAuth. It's a very useful tool that lets you say, you know, I'm logged into this Facebook account. When I log into this website using a Facebook account, it can prove that it's me and, you know, I can pull my username and stuff there. And then later on I want to log in as long as I can solve access to a Facebook account, you know, I can do this without creating an account here. So that's really useful. But what happens if something happens at those other platforms? What happens if the a platform, I'm not even going to call it, what happens if Twitter turns off most of their APIs as they did last year and breaks the integration across the web as happened late in November? You're kind of screwed. Or what happens if you delete your account on those things but forget to update your accounts here? Or what happens if your account gets suspended for whatever reason? Some of us know that your accounts don't get suspended for being a bad person, just for the kind of person that, say, Elon Musk finds bad. That's a different topic. Indioff works in a very similar way, we'll get to that, where you can use one of your other platforms, your Drupal site, WordPress site, like Gravity or MicroBlog, to use that as your authenticator to say, I am me, I'm the person who wants to use this. There are a variety of platforms that allow you to use your own website for this, but most of the time I see it on other people running the same Indioff plug-ins on their website. So basically, I can log in, again, I'm saying let's use an example that Michelle had this on her website, I would then be able to go like, look, I am logged into David's website. So when I say I'm David, your website can trust that it's me. Similar-ish in concept to web mentions, but not entirely the same, is syndication links. This is something where you can have any of your content syndicated elsewhere, and you can link, basically, this one's more manual. All those other ones do things automatic for you, like set it and forget it, basically. This one's more manual, you think, okay, I'm gonna write this blog post, I'm gonna talk about it in other places or link at other places. This allows you to create those syndication links. Some platforms will use these like web mentions, you know, they will notify that you wrote it. The most prominent platform I can talk about still is Medium, because it's, you know, a bigger name blogging platform that people have heard of, and surprisingly lacks on letting you own your own content. The best use case for this, for me, is besides having a list of here's other places you can find this content interact with it. Also, when it's posted those other places, if they're one of the websites that allows you to link back, like Medium, then they will send you that traffic. So, if you are interested in SEO for your site, that's a good thing. So, all of those things that I mentioned already, those are plugins that you can download today on the wordpress.org repo, and the majority of them, I'll say that famous five-minute install, you click install on it, and, well, by five minutes I mean you click install on it, and you go through the settings page and make sure the settings look right for you. What's your username on, you know, Twitter or Mastodon or whatever thing you're connecting to? Cool. There's also other ways that you can connect that aren't wordpress things. So, I use a platform called Mastodon. I've referenced that a few times. I think that's probably the most popular indie web blogging platform. I can write content, if anyone's used TweetDeck before for Twitter, you know, I haven't set up kind of like that because I like all the information bombarding me at once. But same thing, I can follow hashtag specifically to see what people are talking about with wordpress. Thankfully, in the past year, a lot of wordpress people have moved over to Mastodon too. So, there's a lot more in this column on my screen than there used to be. Still get direct notifications from people. You can still, you know, do all the things you do on most other ones, comment on people's things, boost them like them, bookmark them for later. But I have a lot more faith in my ability to keep this website running now than, you know, a multi-billion dollar company, it turns out. I've been keeping this website running for over seven years now. And the only time we had an outage was when our hosting platform had a data center outage for like 10 hours or something. So, I am more reliable than Twitter. Put that on my website. Okay, that's not that impressive anymore, but still. There's also another platform that I mentioned, micro.blog. This was created by someone who was, I don't think it was on the core team, but a core contributor to wordpress years ago created this platform that's another micro blogging platform that has a lot of different features built into it. But the nice thing is that it can pull from other places. This is a point from wordpress blog posts that I made earlier this year when I was doing the 20 days of, 20 days, 20 years, whatever the thing was called, the wordpress 20. And it's a place where you can interact with other people, again, same as any other social media website, but also really nice that they're like a good repository to send your content out to other places. You can find that at micro.blog. I can log into it via my website or by my Mastodon account. I mentioned pixel fed earlier, Instagram-ish. I feel bad for calling things blank clones, but when you make a social media platform that's about pictures and a bunch of pictures in a gallery and stuff like that, that's basically what it is. Same activity platform that things like Mastodon are based on, which means that I can use while I have an account on this one website. I can comment on other people's things and interact with photos and everything via another site. And then another one that a lot of other people here might have already heard of, Gravitar. Gravitar was actually around before automatic audit, but it's been, so it's been active for like 20 years now. And you might notice that sometimes you'll go to a website, especially wordpress websites. If you create an account on someone's wordpress website, you might notice that you automatically have a picture showing up on that website, even though you've never been there before, because you have your Gravitar set up, that you've taken the time to do that. Gravitar itself over just the past year has become a lot more like a link tree or card in the way that it allows you to put a lot more information on where else you can be found, link back to them. Also, I didn't really highlight it here, but a lot of these platforms have verification. Mastodon does as well. I think I have a screenshot later in there. Part of this is that when I say this is who I am on this other website, if on that other website I then say, by the way, that's my Gravitar profile, it can automatically verify me and say this is who that person claims to be. You know, I know there was that whole thing about the, I get ragged on Twitter, the blue check mark on Twitter and how it became kind of absolutely meaningless, both because you can just pay for it, but also because it was an attempt, as they said, to prove who you are online, but really meant you are notable and famous enough that we want to give it to you. So theoretically, what they said that it was supposed to be was I could prove to them, no, no, I'm David, this is my Twitter account, and they would verify that, yes, we confirm this is the person who says it is who it is. That's what all these other platforms can do, by logging in via my GitHub account, since I can prove I have the credentials to log in there, they're using that as enough proof that that's me. So you have yourself connected by all these websites, you have all these plugins installed on your site, everything's great. You've already done a lot, but next you can start publishing content that is friendly for the indie web. So there's not really a lot that you have to do different from how you publish your content now. The thing that usually hangs most people up is the first concept called posse that is post to your own site, and then publish elsewhere. Sorry, I wrote it like that because publish makes more sense than syndicate, but that's for syndicate. Publish on your own site, syndicate elsewhere. Basically saying you own all your stuff, and then you send to other places. All those other plugins I showed you before handle that. It just requires a mindset shift of like, instead of me going, I'm going to write a Facebook post, I'm going to write a blog post, and then I'm also going to put it on Facebook. Hopefully for your site you have a personal domain and hosting for it. By the way, almost all the tools that I mentioned are integrated with wordpress.com too, if you use that. It's again, the guy who created that activity pub plugin works very automatic. Try verifying your website with realmie links. I'm going to show some specific examples of how to do that, as well as how to use micro formats. Try to make sure you apply proper metadata for sharing. If you're using an SEO plugin, Yoast SEO framework, whatever, all in one, you're already covered on that. When you are on other websites, link back where possible. The where possible just means that the other website allows you to. I don't mean Twitter or Facebook, but I mean like every other platform. Again, most of these tools will do automated cross posting, and there's actually a nice website called anywebify.me that you can just plug in your domain name, and it can run automated tests for you to let you know that all these things are working correctly. So, first thing I mentioned was verifying your identity with realm equals me. On my website, I linked to one of these ones. I linked to my mastodon profiles. I just have a link there that says here, profile. I use the realm attribute and I put me, and then on my mastodon profile, I put my personal website name, and that green checkmark there is just verifying, yep, we verified it both ways. A bit of social proof that you are who you say you are. As I've shown before on other ones, micro blog has it, mastodon has it, GitHub has it. That's actually one of the few things that Twitter did have is the verification, medium, the most major platforms. If you are sharing info about yourself on your website, try using micro formats and hcard markup. I'm showing you the markup that exists on my personal website. I'll go through it step by step. If you are using a plugin like Yoast SEO or something, they have, if you've ever looked at the settings there on the back end, they're like, is your website for a person or a business? Oh, it's for a person. What's the person's name? Give us a picture of that person or whatever. That plugin is doing all this for you in the back end. So, if you don't like looking at code, if you don't want to have to deal with code, there are plugins that will just do this for you. In this case, this code here, I'm just showing you what the markup looks like. Micro formats have been around as a standard since 2005 or so, 2004. There was a consortium of three major tech platforms and search companies, AOL, Yahoo, and Google. How's that going in the last 18 years? We still use all three of those, right? Okay. But thankfully, all these big search engines decided, you know what we need to do? We need to make unified standards so that people can use them on their websites and they'll show up on our search results well. So they did something right. But yeah, so I let people know that this is this type of content. In this case, I have a picture that is a selfie that I have it not displaying on this page because I just want it linked there so that other platforms can grab that picture of me. Again, that realmie, my GitHub link. Obviously, it's an out-of-date screenshot too because it's a Twitter profile, my personal website link that I let it know that this is my URL. Again, all these things like, you know, what is your given name? I have my pronouns. You can also put your last name, your information about yourself, the link to my company, fixupfox, which is why I do WordPress maintenance. There's my plug. You note that it's an organization website that you're linking to. All these kind of things where you can say like, here's what this bit of content is for other platforms to be able to digest it correctly. Again, if you don't want to look at code or write any of this code, there are plugins that will do this for you. You probably already have one installed in your website doing this for you right now. The most common one is Yoast SEO. Just saying that gets super, who doesn't have Yoast SEO installed on one of their websites, right? Never used it for. Cool. Easy. You've all seen it before. You just might not know that by filling in some of those fields on the back end, it's doing this for you. Yep. Well, it's one thing that, so Yoast SEO is not only making these microformants, but also is using that same data to make OMBED cards, to make Open Graph. You know, Sanders, like that Facebook wrote that half the web also uses. So I mentioned posse. There's also pesos because sometimes you can't always post your own site first. And also, I don't expect everyone to post every single thought that there might be a tweet to their website first. But maybe, if you're like me, you want to store all of your tweets on your website so you can cause psychic damage to yourself later. In that case, you can totally do that. Yeah. You can totally do that by having that information posted somewhere and then having it cross-post back to your own website. That works well for a lot of websites. It does not really work. And I realize it's in the screen right here to give you an example. It doesn't work great with Facebook. And I cannot claim that it still works for Twitter. But as of a year ago, it worked well for Twitter. Here is my little plug for today. I host my sites with SiteGround. SiteGround let me come here to this event today. And also, they have the ability to implement a lot of these things too. My personal sites are up there where I do all of my anti-web stuff. There's a platform called Bridgy that can do a lot of automated cross-posting for you. Again, I need to update the screenshot mainly because there's more services listed on there now. You can find the website at brid.gy. I think you can also go to bridgy.com to get to it. The idea is that you can link accounts in some places and connect to other places. They're just doing cross-posting for you in the same way that Zapier or Ift would do. But it's just free, and it is made specifically just for cross-posting as opposed to all those other things. Also, when it says find your user page here, you're going to click on that. It's going to use IndieAuth to log in via your website. So if you want to learn more about using your WordPress site for IndieWeb, the website indieweb.org is a great resource. It's basically like a Wiki website, and they have a page specific for WordPress. There's a ton of detail there, more than I went over here. You should head to WordCamps. Just like you're already using WordPress, you're already at WordCamps. So again, you've already done everything important here. And there's also IndieWeb events. I realize that these are links. You can't click on them here, but this is up live on my website. There's going to be links in a moment, so you can click on all those. But similar to how there are WordCamps, there are IndieWeb events. And finally, just experiment on your own site. None of those plugins that I put are going to break your website. My lawyer did not review that statement. What I mean to say is, yeah, what I mean to say is, those things, all the plugins that I showed you, they don't do things visually to your website. They do things on the back end to help it connect to other websites. Give some of them a try. They're all available on the repo. Again, over the past year, they've gotten a lot more people have been using them and working with them to find bugs, to find edge cases and things that they worked so much better than they used to. I guess now people suddenly care about all the social platforms we use going away. So that's it. This is where you can find me on Macedon, my business where I do WordPress maintenance. And I have information about this on my newsletter. In this presentation. Any questions? I went over a lot. Yeah, so I would suggest using one of those, if it's a website that can do the automated cross posting, I would suggest using one of those plugins that I recommended near the beginning. Either the activity pub plugin or the syndication link plugin. All those again, you can find, if you don't want to remember the names of any of these other ones, just remember IndieWeb. You can go to the wordpress.org repo and type IndieWeb in and it has a wrapper for all of those. Otherwise, that platform, if it's one that's not supported, that platform went too far. Bridgy is a good resource because it's one that you can just freely access by logging in with your own website and connecting to other accounts. Thank you. Few services in there I was gonna wear out. So with something like Macedon, even on Twitter and stuff like that, there seems like weird friction points that you can like, dive in. So one is like, I set up a Macedon account somewhere a bunch of years ago and I, where is it? And what's my password? And I'm almost nervous to set up a second newer one and feel like there's two Jason's on the internet. And it's also stuff like, how do I like unfollowing all these people on Twitter? Or like, I just want to keep track. I'm still on Twitter because there's these people who are only there. Like, I'm there. I have a list. It's basically like the feature I use the most. Yep. And I want to be like, when you guys move to a different service I want to make sure that I follow these people I use to follow. So there's always like weird friction down there. So the problem that I'm going to say when it comes to Twitter, is any of the suggestions I'm going to give you, it's very nebulous if they all work now. I have a lot of suggestions that I can give you that worked great even a year ago. But the API has changed so many things. So like, for instance, there was a feature. There was a tool that people wrote that would go through, look at your Twitter follows, and then go see if they are also unmasked on. And it would provide you with just a, you know, a list where you can just click on them and like follow mess on, follow mess on. I do know that that explicitly for a while was disabled by Twitter for some reason. They didn't like people looking at other social platforms. So I don't know if you can use that again anymore. There are also cross posting tools. Some of them still work. One that I've used is called Moa Party. This is not a specific endorsement of it, just to say that if you go to Moa.party, presuming that the Twitter API still allows it, it was one of the simple platforms for you to say this is my master on profile. This is my Twitter profile. Whenever I make a post on either one of these, grab it and post to the other one. And then you can set specific rules like unless it's a reply to somebody, unless it's unlisted, unless it has a specific tag in it, whatever. So you can, or say I only want ones to cross post that have this tag, which like for a while you'll see some people that'll be like something, something, something, hashtag X post. They're like saying I don't want to cross post. Let's make sure other people see it. So that's one way that you can find people and still be in two places at once. Twitter lists. I used to use Twitter lists and Mastodon also has lists. One thing, one feature that I like better about Mastodon lists than Twitter lists is that you can choose to hide, I'm trying to say it, not hide. So you have your home timeline, the first timeline that I had over on that thing, where it would show everybody I follow, everything that gets posted. You could then make lists, but unlike on Twitter, you can still view those lists separately and remove them from the home timeline if you want. So whoops. So as an example, I have a WordPress, I have a WordPress list on Mastodon. I can then say, hey, if I'm looking at the stuff in this list since I already have all of their stuff displaying here, just don't clutter up my home timeline with their stuff. So you could really silo those things a little bit better, which is one positive that it's not something I really even thought of before when I was on Twitter, but when I have it, I'm like, that makes sense, we need to do that more. So that's another feature that still exists. The hard part, yeah, is the network effect. Twitter might be considered a failed platform when it still has over 100 million multi-active users or something, but then again, that's what Google Reader, what's a failed platform at 100 million users in 2013 because when you're a company operating at that scale, 100 million people somehow is meaningless. Wouldn't you love having 100 million clients? Okay, maybe not, that might be a little bit, but still, I haven't got anything near that. And to answer the other part about, you think you have another account somewhere, that's fair, a lot of people signed up in like 2017 when they started talking about it and then forgot where that stuff is. You know, how many people remembered they sold a MySpace account when they got the email from MySpace in 2019 that they were hacked and all their profile info was taken? And you're like, wait, MySpace info is still up? Yeah, so I don't have my MySpace login anymore, but I'll find whatever person on the internet stole it and has it for me. So not to say that that's not a problem, but it isn't a problem that is specific to that platform. And as far as two Jason's being out there, that's going to happen. There is going to be Jason at whatever, and there's going to be Jason at whatever, you know, other sites. So you do have the issue that people can share the same username on different websites. Your entire username on Twitter, for mine was, you know, at David Willfall, this is my full name. My username on Mestodon is at David because as a person who made the website, I get first pick at the names and the website domain, tech.lgbt. So your whole username on ActivityPub websites is your username and then whatever website you're on. That's going to be the same across, you know, those other types of sites that I talked about as well. The problem does that. So I can syndicate like an author or a user on a WordPress site? You think? Can you syndicate like a whole WordPress site? Yep. All authors just put at tech.activity. So if you are using ActivityPub plug-in, you can change this by the way, like it's a setting, but by default, like you can change it to whatever you want, like you can say full site at JasonColman.com, but by default, let's say your site is JasonColman.com, then your website's username would be at JasonColman.com at JasonColman.com. A little bit, a little bit, you know, which is why, like as I'm saying, by default, it's going to be the whole URL, right? The one thing you're not going to want to do is let's say your username is Jason on your website, you can't change it at JasonColman.com, you know, because you've already used that one for your author page. Any author on your website is going to automatically have this as well, and it is something you can disable on a per author basis if you so choose. But yeah, yeah, it can syndicate the entire website or it can syndicate specific authors. And again, that's just built into that by default as a setting. There's a settings page for the ActivityPub plug-in that when you install it, you just go in and like, you know, make a few minor little changes for whatever fits your needs, what you want to call things. Any other questions? I think I addressed all of my Twitter ire there. Actually, that's not true. I can rant about social media platforms forever. I'm basically only on Massivebond now, so if you want to contact me, you have to go to my website or my Massivebond page. Anything else, or do we want to get out here five minutes early? Most of these things, as I mentioned, if you didn't catch it earlier here, all of the things that I showed you there, all of the links, all of the other plugins, everything like that, those are all things that, no, you're fine, that if you have your WordPress site already set up and you have the ability to install plugins on your website, you could activate all of those things and set them up, you know, all on the same day. I mean, probably all on the same hour or something, but that's for your reason, we have all stuff to do. That's it. All right, everyone's embarrassed walking in, so thank you for coming.