 I think you would agree with me in this statement. Probably wouldn't. I felt you were going to say that. Only a woman, sexist, who has given birth vaginally without an epidural can truly understand the pain in the agony a man experiences when he has the flu. Am I right, Gorbin? Yes. Yeah. Hey, welcome back to our stupid rags of Gorbin. Oh, right. Keep fallsing into the same Twitter from our chief. Thank you. Are you fortunate? Patreon folks should consider like, and all fairness for the guys because we are known to be the crybabies when we get the flu compared to the women. I have read certain studies legitimately true. I'm not lying about this. Let's say that men do because of their physiology and their genetics and everything else in the makeup of who they are suffer more with the flu than women. Thank you very much. You heard it here first. You heard it here first, folks. I heard it here first today. We got a interview with my mom. Yes. Great. Uh, son, son, deep, ready. Vanga. Okay. Interview with SS Rajamouli. Who's SS Rajamouli? He is. Is he a dentist? The goat. Um, he's a goat dentist. Weird dentist. Didn't know they had those, but this came out about a year ago. And this is the director of Kabir Singh and Arjun Reddy. And coming up animal. Got it. Um, there. He's apparently, or they're just going to remember Rajamouli, I guess. Uh, Rajamouli. And it's, so this is March 25th. So this was just after the Oscars. Yeah, I suppose. Uh, or at least that's when it released, I suppose. Ah, yeah. Maybe this was, well, we'll probably know from the context of the, um, talking. What the, uh, and it's subbed, but it's not subbed by your subbers. Um, um, but a lot, this has been requested a lot. I would love to hear, um, we haven't actually seen a lot of S.S. Rajamouli, uh, interviews and what I'm thinking about. Not the, not to my knowledge. Obviously, this director, we enjoy his work. Yeah. So far we'll very look forward to animal. Yeah, especially from the little glimpse that we got of it so far. Um, but here. Am I playing on the correct audio? Let's do this. There you go. Here we go. So, good afternoon. Thank you for having me here. Thank you, Sunday. Thanks for coming in. Sir, thank you, sir, because, uh, not only the interview, I want to ask you a few questions, so I'm very excited to sit and talk with you. And last time I met him, I thought about asking, but, uh, you know, things. I want that shirt. Who's, who's German Shepherd? I'm guessing S.S. Ah, my favorite dog. Why it is always revenge. I don't fingerprinting from revenge. Okay. Okay. Interesting. And that's it, that is what we learned. That is definitely going to happen. But for that, revenge is a very strong emotion. It is very easy and strong to connect with. Most of the time it is revenge. Sir, and now in RRR, it is not content but it is period. In that period too, it is 50 years before 50 years after Allantika Nandam. It is one that is set in the 1920s. We are very much excited about the teaser trailer. This was before it was released. It was a special running shot. When Pooja came to the stage, she locked the door. When her face was on the floor, there was a shiver. There was a shiver in Tarak's face. I was very scared. But what do you say about it? My thanks for asking that. I did not say that I should be scared in Tarak's brief. But if I was scared, I would not be scared. Now we are going on a journey. That journey is not going to happen. I put in 100% effort for that journey. But if the journey is not going to happen, there will be tension. That is a good note. I was just going to say, great note. Those are two different things. The scenes will change. She will remember everything. We will forget the original scenes. She will remember everything. I will tell you what to do in that particular shot. I will tell you what to do in that particular shot. And he will deliver. Because he is a shiver. He also shouts. It was a terrific pitch. It was very good. There is another expression. His face is saying something. His eyes are saying something. Tears I thought. It was also great. And that shot where the crowd was fighting with the latte. We had been talking for two minutes. We saw the uniform of the crowd. We saw it in the cinema tickets. It was not that much. It was a little smaller. The crowd was not allowed to train there. We were told to vibrate. We were scared of the camera. We were scared of the camera. But the uniform was great. It was very real. I will give credit to Salman. Salman is a bike master. Originally I hired a Hollywood stunt choreographer. To do that. The new thing is that the stunt choreographer shoots without the actors. They will shoot everything. They shoot in high-end lighting. If we like that view, we say corrections and go for shooting. Everyone knows clearly what we need to shoot. We are stunt friends now. I hired him. He sent me something. Top Hollywood choreographers. I was disappointed. I did not like it. I said no. Then I told Salman. Actually I told Salman first. He said I will do it. He said he could not do it. He left him. He hired the stunt choreographer. He said we can do it. We will introduce him to the world. I am thinking about it. There is one month left in this gap. Salman came to shoot in this month. He came to shoot. I was very impressed. I told him. Really. One or two. Three or four. I was very impressed. I was impressed. We have to make a lot of movies. A lot of big movies. Amazing secrets. I have almost finished my film. I have done it in months. Even without the hero stepping in. I have done it in months. I have done it in months. I have done it in 34-35 years. I have done it in 2 months. I have done it in trains. boy sir. Okay. Incredible. Almost 2,000 people. That's freaking Cecil B to Mill level. Legan had 10,000. But it looks company. And so it's a lot of emotions. They could pull it off. Hardcore cop. That's the word. That's what you observe. He doesn't look at the people that he's hitting. Yeah. Yeah. Because his eyes are something else. Okay. And I think actors. Yeah. But we should feel that he's hitting. Yeah. Yeah. Face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You see the tension in him of knowing what he's doing to his own people, but he has to fulfill his duty. Yeah. Water. If you just. Water will separate and come back again. Yeah. Yeah. So, he's great now. But two months of work. Because I'm sure that you will have it when you see the whole sequence. Yeah. I'm sure. I'm sure. I mean, I tweeted about it. Also, the trailer. The trailer. So, you're waiting. I'd love to see our reaction to the first trailer. The original trailer. Yeah. I would say 80% 80% maybe 70% Okay. There's one stunt choreographer from Balgaria. Okay. He came in. Okay. One camera. Okay. We'll be like Okay. The cameraman is also there holding a camera. No moving along with. Okay. Okay. So, that's a stunt choreographer. Okay. What's up? We was very Yeah. We're kind of attitude. Okay. I took a he said. Okay. So, both these guys did the entire job. But I think you go that way. I look forward to the day. I like it. Every film interval is always a benchmark. There's one there really was. Symbolism is best class nurse in Sydney. So, regional grounds. Wait, an Indian filmmaker making a long film of some guy. I translated it later and put it here. So, that means, every year from then. One of the most incredible intervals ever. Actually, bringing the cuts. As I've been saying for a long time, language, just medium of communication, cinema is so visual. The way we view dialogues in cinema, if you look at it emotionally, that's the universal scenario. It's about pan-Indian cinema or Indian cinema. Like now, for example, you said all your friends from your film school are not Indians. No one is. They come from everywhere. But they could easily connect with the emotion and visuals. This is a huge reason. There are thousands of memes. People are trying to do that. Recently, Bombay tried my EP in an office. So, sir, I mean, to show that their friendship is in sync. What is your... That is definitely... On the top of it, commercially, because we know both of them are great dancers. It is imperative. There is a good dance number. But in the story, Exactly. It furthers the story. And I use that. And how they've got each other's back. And also, emotion runs out throughout the song. And the song itself has a story. But the song itself has a story. A beginning, a ending. That itself is a small short story. The story of the film. Yeah, it's the microcosm of the film. For the action. Well, and nobody does it, I guess. Nobody does big commercial cinema. It needs a lot of coordination. Even if you do it consciously, it justifies them later. This is the beginning of the film. Yeah, it's early. So, sir, is it a linear screenplay? Yeah, linear screenplay. A small flashback episode. But otherwise, it's a linear screenplay. Okay. Sir, there is an explosion in the film. In this film, there is an explosion artist. A special effect artist. We are all from there. Yeah, we are all from there. That's why I don't know anything about it. I just don't know anything about it. In this film, there are many miniatures. Magnificent miniatures. See, we have created some explosions. Okay. At regular level, whatever. The train that you saw. Yeah. Breaking and falling down. Miniature? Sir, I don't know, sir. Really, sir. Huge miniature. Okay. I think it's in the space, right? No. Three, four times. Okay. So, the train will be this big. Yeah. The tankers will be this big. But still. Okay, nice. One fourth size or one fifth size. Okay. But, sir, it's not like that. The center of gravity. The layering is perfect. Yeah. So, it falls like a real compartment. Lot of math. Yeah. I'm a noob. Yeah. No way he just said noob. That was a translation. And then take the miniature calculations and expand them in the frames per second so that they do what would happen at that slot. I can't even begin to imagine the math exactly. We took you to look after the movement. We took miniature calculations with good balance but I don't have any. They took the google maps from the Netherlands and made it into a water episode. Okay. It's the water episode. Is it the water episode? It's in the Danvers and the King of the Kings of the Kings. Yes, okay. So, they took the google maps from there and made the water episode into a dock in every cell. We took this here. We're called artists. Yes, we took the google maps from the Netherlands. One guy came from here. It's a combination. The bridge setup is done by us. The tanker is done by us. The last thing is done by us. Capturing everything was done. So, but I think most of it you capture. And little you enhance in the CG. That's a combination. For some one or two shots it will be completely CG. So, you tell me like it will take time for sure to achieve this. Even CG will take a lot of time. But you think this is better always? No, it depends. Whatever you capture on the camera. Okay. It's better if you make a mark there. Okay. In CG, it's very painful. In the post, it's very painful Yeah, Nolan famously. We'll fix it in post. Nolan's like excuse you, you're fired. So, on location effects are the best. Even visual effects superiors are the best. Same thing with stunt work. That's a note to everybody who thinks that CGI and AI are good replacements for the real thing. Sir, Marvel Girl to create completely a new entity like some moving body like a lion or something is tougher than having something and adding oneself. So, I'm just out of curiosity sir. That's insanely hard. So, that is completely so one person will be having holding head position and running and moving on to that. It depends on each shot. Yes, you know that Tiger something something a tiger head size put on the way of the shoot because he has to understand Tiger distance understand Like in rehearsals, he will use blue reflection So you can see it in the rehearsal, you remember it and then you can do the black one in the short. Oh, okay. Practically, what happened? Tara was literally facing a green sponge. What do you have to keep that? I have to remember, maybe nothing also. Okay. Green sponge for the rehearsal. Okay. For the shot, nothing. Okay. Just looking at thin air and acting. Okay. And the details of making the tiger. In many movies, we have released it because the details are missing. Okay. They have to build it. They have to build the skeleton. And the weight of those things? They have to build the skin. Yeah. And everything should be intact. The skeleton movement should move inside the muscle. The skin should move above the muscle. Yeah. The skin should move above the hair for the groom. The groom should move. And the groom should be very, very, very detailed. Dog skin. Yeah. If you see. It's like a tester. Yeah. And if you look on the face. Yeah. Here it's different. Yeah. It's in this direction. They move also. They have to move in uniform. Yeah, uniform. According to it. Yeah. When the wind is there, the counter moves. Yeah. The details should be detailed. Yeah. It will take time. It will take time. But enjoy seeing that. So you will see from the layer. Yeah. One book layer comes. One book layer comes. I enjoy seeing that and correcting it. I told you. Your judgment. The final layer. I mean, you know in between because of your experience. I know a little bit. Okay. Whether it is going right or wrong. No. I thought it was correct. But the next layer comes. It's the same round approach. Okay. That Tiger is a target introduction of Tiger was done by one of the biggest company in the world, NPC. Okay. One of the top, top three or top two. The Tiger is so important. It's right at the beginning of the film. Yeah. You just set the table right there. Yeah. Animation. Animation is so, so important. Yeah. Okay. Everything has a ring to make it move. Yeah. But the guy who makes them move. Yeah. It has to be a really, really real artist. Yeah. They are like ethnic surgeons only. They are layering everything. They don't have anatomy. They don't have anatomy. They don't have anatomy. They don't know all the details. Okay. And anatomy. These animators know. Yeah. Top animators. Yeah. Perfect. Because as you said, they are layering skeleton, fascia, skin. Yeah. It's an insane skill. In the difference of the way a paw is going to press down on grass versus on stone. Yeah. Tiger sequence was shot and we went to Bulgaria. Tiger sequence was shot and went to the top. But they rehearsed it in the soundstage. Remember that? All that was shot in Bali. It was him running around. Not too late. It was filmed in Ukraine. They're capitol. We had to shoot with him. He was there. I did the delay because it was raining season. It was raining season. So we had to put a lot of effort and go somewhere. We had to dip the rains somewhere. So we had to shoot in Bali. Sequence. And the not-not song was shot in Ukraine. Except for that. I thought the building was set. The building was actually... It was set. That's a real location. Presidents Palace. Presidents Palace. There's a party next to the palace. They gave us the tickets. Luckily, he's also a television actor. Ukrainian president is a television actor. Before he became the president. Funny thing is, he acted as a president in a series. Three or four seasons. Before the war. Before the war. Before the war. He was the president. When the president was born, he was the president. Hyderabad, your locations were here? Yeah. Mostly here. Ramuji Film City. By Karthikeya, all the friends on that Sunday. Same as also Sunday. I'll cook a land. A 10 acre land. There we put up one set. Couple of sets actually. We put up a couple of sets. And here also. We made this action. We put up a couple of sets. There are a number of policies too. Yes. But then the individual is a set. 20 acres or something. Put a huge set for the interval sequence. Even in the short, Thark was sitting with the lathi. The lathi. That we put in Ramuji Film City. Outside of Ramuji Film City. We put up the same on the left grounds. Because I wanted that. So, we see layers and layers of correctness at the same time we put it at the same time. So, usually sir, in such scenes, how many CG-enhanced people are there? How many live locations are there? There will be some shots where there will be some shots where primary layers, take the original people, and take the camera with them, or take a complicated movement in them with real people, then the rest of the people will be added in CG. For example, in the teaser, the first of Tildong shot, where you see the number of people, the final count would be some 40,000, 50,000 people down to the final count. In that, the real people would be maybe 3,000, 4,000, which we shot in layers. So, real people would be 10,000 CG people. Because they had 10,000 people. Well, now they didn't have the technology. 3,000 people, a regular crowd, a repeated crowd. So, 3,000 people, you have to provide costumes. So, you will decide the colour palette also. So much work. So much work. So, it looks like 3,000 people, you will take measurements. You will need the costume. Also, not measurements. But you will get an idea that in the medium size, maybe in the extra larger lamp, you will have mass production. The main problem are costumes. Because this is happening in North India, in those days, people used to have huge turbos. Huge turbos. If you see in the film, you see people with turbos. If there are so many turbos, some of them are a bit far away. Oh, no. But there are so many of them. If you see that, if the shot is ready, 20 costume models will go to the god bless, and they will go to the factory. For one shot, one take. One take in the film will go to Udubbathai. They will sit again. So, it is in the Lathi scene. Wow. So, the story is running in North India. I saw a turban, I thought it would be in Telangal. But that kind of costume, huge turban. That is a bit different. But I didn't know that much. Because I didn't know the concept of that. I didn't know the costume in the crowd. So, the entire story is running in some place in Delhi. In Delhi. In Delhi. In Delhi. Outskirts of Delhi. Okay. Most of the story is in Delhi. Okay. Which is nice, actually. So, characters are one of our Delhi being the central. So, characterizing to everybody. That's not it. The story happens. Yeah, that's right. So, national politics is directly inclined to what these people are doing. Because, in South India, freedom-fighting revolution is less. The moment in North India is less in South India. So, I didn't think that much. So, I thought that the two Telugu characters are probably meeting in Madras. I thought Madras. I didn't go to Delhi. Okay. So, from that note, even Aluri, Komuram, Alusitharam, Raju Komuram, these characters, this is nothing related to their actual life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And not only the patriotic film. But currently, the patriotism will be there. The freedom struggle will be there. We'll touch that point. But it is mostly about friendship. It's the best buddy film ever made. Yeah. He's one of the best friends now. I tried to block that out of my mind, though. I was also planning to do a small batting, but I didn't think anything beyond that. I thought, but they are saying, I don't know how real is it. Me, Rana, Vinna, that for either of them, in a time period, they were up to the same period. In 1997, they were up to 1 meter. In 1997, they were up to 1 meter. I was like, 1990, sir. Just 3 and a half years or something apart. And surprisingly, they were okay, sir. They were out in the middle of the night. Around the 20s, under different circumstances. They went out and no one knows what happened when they left their homes. So you don't know. And after 3-4 years, they came back. After they came back, Alushetara Rao Rao Rao Rao Rao became himself a warrior saint. And before that, Komaran Bhim was uneducated. 3-4 years ago, when he came back, he was educated. Even in Pune, what happened in these 3 years? He wasn't there. Contemplating? No, he didn't go to Assama or Kolkata. But no one knows what happened. So that was super exciting for me. They met. They met. They were friends. They exchanged ideas. They danced. Not enough. It was like a simple thing. They sat down and had tea. It's so exciting now. Yeah, yeah. Just to... If you picture it. Picture it. Yeah. And just, I don't know where they came from. I don't even know if they had tea. Excitement purchasing. Yeah. And getting 2 stars is also another excitement. Excitement. These characters. Obviously. And also, just, you see, according to what we know, Aloo Sitaram Rajesh is a well-learned man. Okay. Well-learned man. Paran, Alun, Khiasar. So, when there is a well-learned man, he is very calm. Now, there is so much happening around him. He will be more stoic. And Kumbh Rambi is a tribal man. The tribal man is a tribal man. No matter how far away he is, he will be a tribal man. He reflects everything, sir. No, no. So, that's why casting is also important. Yeah. Charang will be, like, in the color. Yeah. It comes from a lot of understanding, learning and ability to imagine emotions, but for those who are there, he will be very intense. Okay. He's very calm, he'll be very angry, he'll be very calm, he'll be very outgoing, what is needed, He will be very giving. I can't tell you. Whenever, everything is like, out of order. So, casting is also a reason. But also child likeness to him. Yeah, he's perfect casting. Perfect casting. Sorry to be jammed, sir. Sir, in an interview, I read that I saw that interview. Please, me interview, sorry. Kiran, you are a interviewer. So why is that your combination has a great music? So he said that when I give a piece of music, so what Rajabalya does is he will not cut the music onto the scene. He will make sure his scene will fit into the length of the music so he will feel completely free. You still practice with that? Yeah. There is a given take. There is a given take. Okay. For many sequences, I would like to take songs to re-recording. Okay. One re-recording important sequence. That might not be the final thing. Yeah. So, when I am doing this, I want to make sure that the action sequence is in the peak. Okay. That is what I want to say. Okay. And after the re-recording, he will give me his music. His music is very dramatic. I don't feel like cutting it. Then I will extend the shots. Yeah. Sometimes shoot and also... Okay. Shoot extra and fit into that one. Okay. Yeah, sometimes the music also has to be edited. Not only one way. Okay. But the music is very matractic. No. The editing. Okay. And so, did you play the music in the action episodes? I didn't play it in this movie. I played it when I was young. Okay. For some, not every time. Okay. You think when you play the music like a dance and montage movement, you think the movement will be right, right? Yeah. Yeah. In particular, the emotion is involved. Yeah. Yes. In the fight, it's almost all my sequences or lengthy sequences. Yeah. Even in that, the beginning build up. Especially the power of the tool. Yeah. You see, beginning, middle and end. Yeah. When you go further, some picking music comes and it picks up from there. Yeah. Especially the climax. Yeah. So, it had that beginning, middle and end too. Like a senior treat. Yeah. So, I can think of it, sir. When I watch your fight scene, I feel like probably you might play music, but you said yes. My guess is correct. The feeling is right. Yeah. Sir, when there is emotional peak, if further sequence, when I play music, yeah. I will play it. Yeah. Yeah. Prabhas too. Yeah. Even if he helps a lot, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Even if he helps a lot, actually. Yeah. Yeah. So, I can think of it. Yeah. So, I can play music, and then some years, when I played music with Vijay at the Arjun, I was not ready for music. So, I play it. Related Emotion. Yeah. So, it helped a lot. Yeah. So, I was really surprised. So, action is good as well. So, you were so. And ultimately, it is choreography, right. Yeah, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. You are telling about the sodomy. So, I was thinking whether not only fight, maybe he will choreograph something which has a movement also. Yeah. Not needed. It is a fight or a song also. Actually it was Prem Rakshet, who has done the songs, not some other songs. He has also done some fights. Like I said, he has done a portion of the dance. But dance masters take on fight choreography will be different. Actually, in Bahubali, there is Aroh, Dev Senab, Bahubali, Accordar. He has done his choreography. Okay, it's a great idea. In Hindi, it's not the entire one. It's very different actually. Sanskrit words. Yeah, it's a good idea. I thought if I had seen that one, I would have thought you were the one who said it. No, I didn't think so. I mean, normally, some shades are done by the fight masters. After watching a movie, I feel like this film is going to be like a fight. So if you are confused about it, I always feel it is a good director. And in the making videos, most of the time, I see you holding knives and all that. So, when we see British people, our Telugu, Malay and Hindi, we don't even know where they are from. I don't have any language. When we see British people talking in Hindi, Rande Basanti. He speaks Hindi a lot. Good that you used English. Yeah. So, it's very different. That's how we feel when we see any white actors in Indian Indians. Sometimes it doesn't matter what language they are speaking. I don't like the accent of your character. So, I decided that if I was in English, they would speak in English. I wanted to see the audience. So, I decided to watch the audience in English. If you were there, you would have attached a previous memory. Even if I had this feeling, that feeling would have come. Which is very good. In this sequence, I wanted to put a translator. So, that English officer speaks Telugu and Hindi. That is very smart. I have an effect. He has a cover. He speaks in English there. There is a lot of fun. He has a cover. That is true. There is no yardstick. That is just a feeling. You want to go by completely English. Or you need a translation. Instinct. Yeah. It's completely what you feel at that moment. Sir, you said that when there are 2,000 people. When the shot is okay. And I don't know how many assistants will be on the mics. And you say cut. How does that happen? Shoot a flare in the sky. I got it. I have recorded it. It will come in this frequency. So, full sound. It will come in the industry. They will stop when they get it. They will not listen to that pitch sound. They will stop when the sound is in pitch. Tricks of the train. The same thing we used. Great, sir. I think people will fall after watching this. That is why I did a film. I did a film called K.D. When I did the film. There will be a lot of junior artists in the world. I came as a junior artist. I sat in the crowd. I saw sweaters. I saw sweaters. I put them in my bag. It was very nice. It was a great task. If you are a common sense, you can keep it in your bag. You can bring your own stuff on to the set. That is unprofessional. Very low standard. It is common that people have coffee. They will accidentally bring a Game of Thrones. Exactly. I want to tell you something. What are you doing in Malayalam films? You look at any background actor. Malayalam itself. I am very sick of watching that. When I say something, I don't say that there is a background director. First of all, we have to change the co-ordinator. I am always like that. Most films have a co-ordinator for background. They will give him acting notes. I am not a co-ordinator. I am a co-ordinator. I have selected a co-ordinator in the film Death Sea. I selected the co-ordinator and put it in the co-ordinator. I feel like an ordinary person. I have been watching the co-ordinator before the director. I thought he is my co-ordinator. I thought he is a dead man. That is correct. I have to create a co-ordinator. Normally, what I have seen is in Delhi, in Bombay, there are better sites. People are interested in acting. It is a decent job. We will get a decent pay. Whenever you are free, you let us know. This is the number. Those who have studied well, those who are in the settings of the city, there are a lot of them. They have to choose one year and get it. There will be a new phase. People will choose one year. They will not be able to go and get it and if they choose one year, they will also be sitting in a type. They will be able to see what I am using. If you are ready to act, everyone will act in the same pace, in the same speed, in the same way, and there will be a same expression. It is a very good job. It is a very good job. I feel like putting it before. There are some BFI or British films of India or something. There are documentaries from the 1930s, 1940s and 1920s. They covered India's footage. So we got it some about... They were 15 years old. But we saw what was the background like. The costumes were different. Most of them were skinny. The studio was working. And either bare chested or skinny with huge tub buns. In my opinion, it was a love-government. It was a big job. You had to sit in the rest of the studio and look at the footage. You could see the coverage of Kolkata Square. It was a small camera pan. It was an interesting thing. You could see the crowd on busy roads. If we were to talk about Australia, it would have been better if we had set up a Puli Mac. Because we have a reference. We took it out of the box and put it in the box. You feel right in that old 1920s Delhi look. Neither the background artists or production design didn't have it. Now we are very good at it. We said to work in everything natural. Because of these background artists and also their costumes, the colour palettes were used. Even then, in the 1920s, they had to be transported. We will see authentic Delhi countries later. But that siren idea is a crazy idea. Everyone chooses it. It's a necessity of the mother of invention. It's a great idea. Sir, usually, how many days of shooting? 300 days. Wow! Sir, what do you think? Even in rehearsals, there is a count. Only shooting. My stars. A year of just filming. Only when you are capturing it is 300 days. My stars. In rehearsals, it will be easier to film. Wow! This is old school. Star Wars, Lord of the Rings. It's one of the reasons he does have years between his films. Probably takes him five years from concept to finished product. Fastest ever, probably. Nobody questions it now. Why would you question it with him? No, nothing to question. Take as much time as you want. So that 60 days of extra was there. 60 days extra. Most films today are filmed in 60 days. Night sequence. Wow! Helms deep what? 25 or 28 nights. Was that consecutive nights? I expected them because there were a number of things involved. A lot of CGI, night time. There were juniors. We brought 40 fighters from abroad. So, in this coordination, I think I will be in the short-term. And also, because of the complexity of it, it took more than H.U.J.D.M. to make a project. I think that is where we miss the mark, mainly on the interval sequence. Okay. May I tell you something else? Okay. To achieve that also, with respect to 50 days or 75 days, I understood without telling that 70 days is an action episode. So, when you plan an action episode like that, so you have pointers, or you know how it is starting to end, and you take physical help from the master. How do you design it? In the movie, storyboard it? Particularly, action sequence. Before we go, stunt has to be complete. Either master involved in the death, shoot it, move it, shoot it, practice it, or stun it. Sometimes, if it involves animals, like in the movie sequence, so that is the premise. Shoot it in animation, it has to be in animation. So, it has to be a short-division episode. On the day of shoot, I might add one or two shots extra, but in the action sequence, everything is like, shoot anything, everything is on paper. So, in the scene, action sequence were timed? Because we already shot it. Because the stunt day has already provided the stunt to us? No, sir. Even before that, if you think it is 20 minutes, if you see it before, it will take 5 minutes. Almost it will be. Because you have the pre-edit that was brought to you with the stunt visualization was already put on camera. If the action scene comes in between, I will shoot that scene as standard. If I am sitting on the phone, I will shoot it and act as standard. Actually, if the action scene comes in between, then I will risk it. So, I will act with him, and I will shoot that scene as standard. So, we roughly know how much time it takes. In spite of that, interval sequence went beyond my control. Okay. Every time you move from one film to another film, for example, a one-film character costs 250 crores. So, your next film will make 250 crores. Not necessarily. So, it will cost 500 crores. It will go 500 crores. No, no, no. This time, it will cost 800 crores. It will cost 800 crores. So, do you think it will cost 800 crores? No, no. But you will never think about it. Do you really... Not in the beginning. Now, from post-Mugathir, do you really think about budgets? I really do. I really do. I constantly keep worrying about the budget. I worry about it constantly. But the worry is correct. If I take this shot like this, it will be good. Money is now an object. If I take this shot like this, I will think that it is worth it. I will think that it is worth it. But that thought... I want my shot. You will remember it. Sir, I have a question on your paper. I have so much experience. I thought that this is not enough. I thought that I could take it. That's it. Now, as an interviewer, let's go. I think it's needed. I think I saw a little bit of the budget. A little bit of the budget. But other actions separate. It is a series of actions. I think we did it in 5% variation. We finished it in the same way. It was a Taruk action sequence. And in the same way, we went to Bulgaria. Both heroes. Almost 5% of the variation was shot within the planned budget. 300 working days, I think. Both things put together, it is 600 plus. 500 working days and stuff. Oh, that was including post. I think it's all working. That wasn't on location, on set. You guys let me know, I don't know. Even now, I don't know, I haven't logged in to 150. If it's new, it's 120, it's 150. And Chattrapati sir? I don't know, it's 130, it's 140. The people who work with him, especially the tech people? 11. Job security for the next two years. Your direction team, how many people are there? 10 for this movie. I don't know. Including the co-director. 10 members. They are there from a long time or every time? Some of them are there from the beginning. Student number one? Student number one, student number one. Then, they join out on the rail, they join out on the rail. Chattrapati, they join out on the rail. There are some people who are there. Some youngsters may be coming, going, coming, going, coming. And one important thing, sir, who is your EP? Executive producer. Kartikeya, executive producer. Executive producer, Panayanti line producer, Panayanti. I don't differentiate. The main guy. The main guy, two people. Kartikeya, my son. And Srivalli, my nephew. Nepathism. Kartikeya, he is like marketing, he deals, he business deals. He doesn't talk to others. He doesn't plan a schedule. He doesn't talk to artists. He doesn't talk to artists. Seeing everything. He doesn't check the budgets. He will look after. He is like hands on. He does shooting that day. He does everything that day. He doesn't have a plan. He doesn't have a schedule. He doesn't have a schedule. He doesn't have a schedule. And also the post production. So they take after the post production also. Yes, yes. She is there for the entire film. She is like a post production. She is entirely in charge of where to print, when to go, where to go. She is like, she is the hands on person. Before you ask me something, I will ask you something. How close is Ranbir in Animal to Arjun Reddy on Kabir Singh in the characterization? Yes, sir. There is no closing. No? So you named the animals. Yes. So for everyone immediately, a character like that, who is violent, mentally fixed. Including me. Okay. It is violent. But if it is a character, it is not similar. Okay. I am also asking about the village. I am asking about Kabir Arjun. But no, sir. Not to the character, even plot, story, everything is completely different. The common thing is, that is the two character driven stories. Yeah. Two character driven stories. That is the one common thing. Okay. I don't think so. That's a different part. We are talking, right? We are talking, right? You don't have the brain. Go. Go. Sir, I wanted to ask you something. Songs, all the montage situational songs, and this is one friendly song. There is nothing girl and boy song at all. No. In this film, there is a small love anger between Charan and Alia. But, in the romantic track, there is no cut. Not even in the situation. No. But in the song, there is love song between Ramcharan and Junior Tiara. Absolutely. Dosties. The hero, the hero in the heroine, the hero in the villain. So, it's everything about these two guys. Okay. So, it's, yeah. There is no way that we are looking anywhere other than these two friends. Great. He does a great job with that too. That could have been a distraction if they built too much the relationship between them. First day, I was feeling very nervous. I was going to buy a ticket for the first two days. I'm waiting, sir. And I have one request, sir. If you are in the next film or the next film, when you are in the shoot, when I am in the post, when I am in the tree, when I am in the gap, I just want to observe. Absolutely. It's 20-25 years. I just say, observe and go. Definitely. When there is an important episode, I'll just keep all my secrets with me and reveal it here. I just want to see how you work. Absolutely. I'm not sure that I can't give my time entirely as an estimator for one-on-one of you. But 25 days or 30 days is a schedule. Please let me in, sir. I'm asking you the same thing. Sir, what happened, sir? I don't know, sir. I don't know what happened. I really want to observe. Especially for the animal. I'm going to act. Sir, I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. But I just want to be honest. I tried sincerely. I don't know what happened. I want to. Definitely. Thank you, sir. Superb, sir. Thank you. Great interview. We have to do it this way. Very nice. It's interesting actually to see this post the craze. Yeah. Post Oscars. Him having not even seen the film yet. Right. And getting so many things correct. Right. Just from the trailer. Absolutely. Which is super interesting to watch. It's lovely to see the mutual admiration. And it's also lovely to see an entire hour of conversation driven by nothing but artistic excellence and craft and delightful. And S.S. Roger Mooney, obviously, and Sandeep is a Tolugu director. Because he originally came with Arjun Reddy. Right. Remed it into. Is he becoming a Hindi director now? Or is he just... I think... It's mine. I don't know. Obviously his last one was Kabir. Right. Which was a remake of his film. Of his film. Right. And then now he's going to Animal. Right. Hindi with Ren Beer. So I'm wondering... Or if that's just... Or if he'll go back. Or if he'll kind of go between both. Or I don't know. Wondering that. But S.S. Roger Mooney is so unique in his cinema. Nobody makes cinema like S.S. Roger Mooney. Which is why if they make RR2, it needs to be Roger Mooney at the helm. Yeah. Because I don't trust anybody else. No. To make cinema. You're going to make a cheap copy. No. And it'd be interesting to know his take on it. Because I know he would have a lot of people who are on the money side of things say, having your name associated with it means this thing is going to do well. And it would be a great investment for you that will bring you a return on money. But because he's such a devoted artist who cares so, so much about story and the art form, I can't... I can't... I just... I can't imagine him having simply a producer credit on a follow-up to RR2. I just... I can't imagine it. Yeah. That would be crazy. But yeah, he is... And I would love to be on set with S.S. Roger Mooney. With those men. Him being like in terms of grandeur, a Nolan, right? In terms of... Cameron. The way... Yeah, Cameron. The way you do film is different than everybody else. Right. I want to see that. Yeah. Absolutely. I agree. Because I would just... One, like on... That's where... That's one of my favorite parts about film, obviously acting would be my favorite. But when you're on a big set and the production has built stuff, that is movie magic. When they've built miniatures. Yeah. How they're filming. That's movie magic. Yeah. That's stuff that I love to watch. And then to watch how different directors... Like the notes that he gave Junior and Chair. Glorious notes. Yeah. The minute you said it, it was on my tip of my tongue. Because that's... It's the same thing I mentioned about a note that Valerie heard a director giving to somebody in a class. She was in film school. And the note was, be angrier. But her thought was the better note to give the actor would be, shame her. And it is. That differentiation. And it's very clear, both by the way he speaks of what he does and the final product. They brought it up at the very beginning. It's evidently clear that the look on Junior NTR's face with the tiger there and he has that tremble. It isn't fear of the tiger. It's definitely just the overwhelming emotion of I will win with the possibility I might not. Yeah. And you can't give that note to an actor unless you're a really, really skilled director at speaking the language of actors. And that's why he gets the quality of performance he gets from his actors. Because he's just... He's a director's director. Yeah. And he makes such... He makes... I love that he makes his style of cinema. Yes. And it's... In every way. For Indians. Even though there are others that appreciate it, like especially with RRR, how we saw basically... Of course. All of America and the world appreciate RRR. And I think that's the creme de la creme of his cinema. It is from what we've seen. Because the heart of RRR is its buddies. And so much of that is done with the visuals knowing not telling that it's a universal. It doesn't matter where you come from. You're going to be rooting for two guys who are fighting and then fighting each other. And the drama of all of that. It's just... Can't speak the praises ever enough. It will go down in history as one of the greatest films of all time. And the fact that he has so many... The way he does his cinema in terms of just... What I was saying about making it just for Indians. When did this change? I don't know. But I need to be... You never... But I like it. What I'm pointing at is the... Triple R2 lists him as director. Yeah. It literally should not be done if he's not the director. Just... Written and directed. Leave it at... Written and directed. Well, I think his dad writes all of it. Yeah. Well, he's... I think he'll... Co. He'll... It's co-writer. Every film he does. Nepotism. It's so ridiculous. Everybody talks about... Everybody knows that it's a collaborative art form. And everyone feels like family. It's absurd. To see AA2. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But... Yeah, I would love to be on set with him. The fact that he... I want to work with him. Yeah, I would love to work with him. Even if there's like certain things in films that, you know... Non-Indians will not get or non-Tolugu speaking will not get. You usually get the overwhelming emotion. And I just think he's... From the stuff we've seen, we haven't seen everything of his. We haven't even seen, I think, half of his stuff. The... That emotion, and I guess he said, revenge is in all of them. Yeah. That's a driving emotion for most of his films. But he always justifies it. He never does anything solely for the sake of emotion. Because as a great director, he understands that doing that is actually a violation of the trust that the audience has given you. And I think the cinema, Indian cinema specifically, has caught up to him. And that was the culmination of RRR in terms of CGI. Right. And in budget. Yeah. He's always had these ideas. Right. But in terms of the Indian film industry... Right. He hasn't been at either the money to pull off Hollywood level VFX, or the producers weren't ready to do that. Obviously, he changed the game with what he created in Bahubali. Even though in that, you still see some of those CGI things that were very prevalent in Bahubali. At the time. At the time. It's forgivable. But having him making Bahubali in Bahubali too... Right. Changed the entire landscape for Indian cinema. Yeah, it did. And now, I think, no one's going to ask Rajamuli. So what budget do you... They're just like, what do you need? I'm assuming the question most of them give him. For sure. It's like, what story do you have, and what do you need? Yeah. Not, you have to make it in this budget. Because it's not going to happen anymore. No. And if you go over budget, okay. Fine. Yeah, that's fine. It's your cinema, and people are going to go support Rajamuli. Make the shot you want. Which is wonderful to see. I love... He seems like a genuine sweet guy too. Yeah, he does. He seems like... And that's how a lot of directors are. They're not actually like people, people. Most... A lot of actors are, you know, out there, and they're comfortable talking. He seems like one that's like, I would... I just want to stay behind the camera here. Even though he likes to make cameos in his films. But yeah, that was wonderful. I enjoyed every second of it. I did too. Let us know what the next S.S. Rajamuli film that we should watch are. I know he's got a couple with NTR that we haven't seen. I think we've seen scenes from in songs. I think he has a couple with Ram. And then he has others as well that we need to watch. So please let us know what those should be. And any other interviews that we can react to. And I think Animal, the teaser, depending on when this comes out, should be dropping soon. So that's very exciting. It is. Let us know. Down below.