 But there's only always still second person plural second person singular second person plural second person plural or It's a wider plural Second person plural now with more plural. I think it's still, you know, if you if you say one or many more many is still many But that's also true of all y'all like you don't really need to say all because it's there already Yeah, but still maybe, you know, some people were saying y'all and some people were saying all you and They just couldn't decide which one was right. Well, there's y'all Meaning this side of the room and then all y'all which both sides of the room I wish we had all y'all in French you could Can't you can't you francify it somehow Frank if I it Well, I don't know just to It sounds funnier Hey Actually, actually I'm starting to like it now Better understand We could make it, you know, we could make it thing Well, let's do it Everyone out there start saying toose-for-toose. Oh, yes. Sorry, Roger Can't spell control about troll There you go John Turturl It's what's her name for the young Turks Hey, folks, if you haven't heard of else nerds go look it up and Check out my appearance on it yesterday with our very own beat master behind the scenes at GN cast comm slash else nerds dash show I'll put this link in the chat room, too It was fun. We talked about geeky stuff TV shows comics Something you never do. I know right something. I had no idea talking about geeky stuff. You were like Turned out, okay, it all turned out, okay Ninth Mike is ice cream is it no heat day for Oh, yeah, no, they weren't here really. Yeah, well, we'll explain it. He will explain it in the show All right, save it save it for this year. It's it's a Finnish Ecological effort to consume less energy. So we Whenever the temperature goes below minus 10 centigrade. We just not don't use heating anymore It would cost too much to to Heat anyway, so yeah at that point you stood law of diminishing returns. Just says forget it. Yeah Doesn't work. It's not economical What is negative 10? In fair 10 is 14 Fahrenheit There you go. That's pretty cold TV see God says it allows your skin to return to its native transparency like a baby fish Hey, double and then at 30 isn't that it Hey, you know TV Z gone. I was actually born Uh in the Middle East in the Mediterranean. So I my skin is like Completely originally completely well, it's pretty white, but still I'm the child of the sun, okay Right, right. You're you were born in the middle of the water. Your your skin is oblique almost I'm not used to those colder climates Most people aren't Even if they were born their their liars because then they need to pack on all the insulation Well, we can get rolling so that we don't have to keep Patrick up In the cold cold Is your wife still not frozen? Uh, she's not frozen. Good Let it go Why are you singing because frozen I answered my own question All right, you get ready Yes, do you need to warm up first? All right, here we go in three two one The Daily Tech news show is brought to you by its global listener base not outside organizations To find out how you can contribute go to daily tech news show dot com slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday, February 7th 2017. I'm Tom Merritt joining me today From deep in the heart of finland Patrick Beja, which I know most of you on audio can't tell but he's very cold And if you're watching the video, you can see it in his clothing So I'm wearing two sweaters two pairs of pants and covering myself with some sort of woolen thing And I have a hat and everything and still I'm cold What so how how would you like to explain this as briefly as possible to people? Why are why are you not? Why don't you don't have heat? What's going on? So, um, we're in the country, uh, my wife's family's house is Uh Is difficult to heat and when the temperature goes Too low below zero then we have to get out here to heat it up and you know some different people in the family go at different times and we decided to come uh this time and the the Everything is heating up, but we've only been here for a couple of hours. So it's still okay So you need to heat it up keep pipes from freezing and stuff like that Exactly, but you haven't been there long enough for the heat really to bring it up to a livable level. I get it Well, it's livable if you have lots of clothes Yes, exactly. If you're bundled up And you know something like that like the weather wouldn't stop me from being of on dts. So absolutely. No, I appreciate that This this this team spends hundreds of hours a week reading the tech news So you don't have to we're here to give you the summary of everything you need to know And patrick won't let a little cold stop him from doing that Let's start with the top stories YouTube has begun allowing channels with more than 10 000 subscribers Dts is almost there folks just a couple more you uh to stream live video from the youtube mobile app So a la facebook live periscope etc in addition the super chat feature which we've mentioned previously on the show That's the one that lets users pay to elevate their chat comments Is out of beta and available in 20 countries to channels with more than 1000 subscribers So this is kind of interesting, you know, just like Patrick is not stopped by sub freezing temperature youtube is not deterred Um by it's I would say the lukewarm response to its uh Live efforts, it doesn't seem like it's taking off a lot, but Um, I have a lot of friends it's had a goal, but a lot of friends who are who have been using things like periscope or even Um, you know twitch for gaming specifically and for some other things, but Especially for periscope twitter had a thing there and it's sort of let it Deed her out and it's not really it it didn't Not cash in but Bring something more concrete to the excitement. It didn't keep its momentum really exactly And so I have a lot of friends who are using periscope on a regular basis who were waiting for youtube to enable this just to to uh switch over so I'm I'm thinking it's not going to be in direct competition with twitch, but it might become the default other Uh platform to stream live Yeah, I mean as facebook keeps saying they want to bring people on to make short form content Which is directly in conflict with what youtube creators do Uh youtube is saying, uh, well, we would like people to streamline from their phones directly in competition with what facebook live does so I I think this is an essential tool in the toolkit for youtube limiting it to channels with 10 000 subscribers Seems unnecessary. I know youtube has got the capacity to do this. I'm curious what their reasoning is Maybe they just want to control the quality at rollout as people discover these new things But I also don't think that you're going to see a number of people Flocking to youtube to stream live. It'll be people who already have big youtube audiences using this to stream live to those audiences Yeah, I like the fact they're limiting it to 10 000 to people with 10 000 subscribers I think It's probably a good idea to have a little bit of control over this at least You know, maybe they can lower it down later But it's always more difficult to institute that limitation afterwards if they see it's getting out of hand Yeah, why not just I mean everybody can stream on periscope now everybody can stream on facebook live I guess facebook live limited it not by subscriber numbers, but they limited who could get access to it in the beginning too, so It's a similar situation All right apple announced its beats x wireless earbuds will be available worldwide febru 10th The headphones do have a wire between them use the w1 chip for easy pairing with apple devices Claim eight hours of very life and cost $150 in white black gray and blue They're not sweat resistant though, which uh kind of rules them out for me because I I generally use these kinds of things for For jogging and stuff like that. Uh, they'd probably be fine, but um I the w1 chip is is is good I have the air pods and it's one of the best things about it is that the pairing is just instantaneous You don't have to think about it. I don't have to press a button like I do on every other bluetooth headset that I've ever had I know other headsets also do that So i'm not saying apple is unique in that aspect, but that kind of of thing is really good Problem is that kind of easy pairing with these beats and the air pods only works with apple devices So when I want to use it on my android, it's not as easy. It's not as as nice You have to go back to normal bluetooth stuff and it's actually a little harder Since there isn't a button, but The beats headphones are very popular and a lot of people were looking forward to this I think there's a button though. There is on the air pods the one in the back on the case, but um Yeah, I mean case. Yeah. Yeah um, yeah, I mean it's It's a it's a cool Alternative, I think for me the great advantage which I didn't suspect For the air pods is the fact that they have no cable between them. Yeah but and and that you know that frees you a lot in unexpected ways, but This is a different kind of use. It's also a little bit cheaper. So yeah, why not? Yeah, and and like I said, you know people people just like the beats brand And so now they've got this even if it's not the the wire The truly wireless version a lot of people think those look a little weird anyway I'm wondering if that's that's one of the reasons they didn't get rid of it is They haven't perfected the design enough for the style conscious consumer and the beats audience is very style Yeah, the the air pods. I will admit definitely make me look like a dork or maybe I already look like a dork They definitely make me look like more of a dork in my case. There you go Researchers at pseudo security group found 76 ios apps had implemented tls encryption In such a way that user info could be intercepted by a man in the middle attack The apps were noticed by pseudo's bulk static analysis tool verify lee Then the vulnerability was verified by pseudo president wil straffick in his lab Ars technica independently verified several of the identified apps as vulnerable 33 of the apps exposed low risk Partially sensitive analytics data although sometimes that did involve snapchat login 24 exposed login credentials or session tokens though those apps were not associated with sensitive data So it's a little bit more of a of an imposition but but not exposing as much But 19 of them exposed sensitive data like your financial and medical login credentials authentication tokens stuff like that Now this is not new and it's not limited to ios except in this case The significance of this is that both android and ios Have been moving to require stronger security stronger use of certificates requiring use of certificates apple delayed its implementation of ats But even with ats implemented these Attacks would still be successful because of the way certificates work. So essentially what needs to happen is A stronger method of certificate verification needs to happen And yet we're not quite ready for that because as pseudo security writes in the medium post If you were to require the stronger version of certificate authentication Some apps would become less secure Because they either use a pinned certificate which is stronger security now, but wouldn't be under that system Or there's an intranet app that is used in an enterprise where it's going to show as insecure outside of the intranet The attacks however are unlikely if you're on your own wi-fi or on a cellular connection So really where you need to be wary of this is when you're on open wi-fi, which you should always be wary about So one rule to Remember is don't do stupid stuff on open wi-fi, which we might talk about again in a little bit And when you're dealing with third-party apps, a lot of these are third-party apps that upload photos to snapchat Beware that they may not follow as strict of a security regimen as the main app. You're using them with I usually try to avoid third-party apps that do things like that. You can't always but but yeah No, I I don't prefer to use those either. You're right The u.s. House of Representatives unanimously approved h r 387 The email privacy act the bill would require the government to obtain a warrant to obtain email records currently available by subpoena The bill now goes to the senate for deliberations and approval a similar build bill passed the house unanimously last year But was not approved by the senate after senator john carnan Sought to add amendments to increase fbi surveillance capabilities so This is one of those things where things don't break down upon partisan lines The house very clearly all of them democrats and republicans would like A bill that requires a warrant to get your email records And and with this google case that we were talking about yesterday in the case that microsoft fought last year emails and and warrants is an important thing in both of those cases there are warrants not subpoenas though So this really wouldn't change those cases However, it looks like the senate doesn't really Go along with that and and so there was a fight that was lost last year However, it looks like the house has not given up and Most people don't expect the us senate to approve this so it may may not yet become law I think what surprised me in that piece of news was the idea that Any part of the The house or the senate would want to make it To be in favor of privacy, you know, I understand this is probably a little bit of a skewed view on my part on my end, but Every thing we're hearing in the past few years has been so geared towards we need more capabilities to Look into what people do That's something like this Seems a little bit out of place. I think well, uh, believe it because it's happened twice now Yeah biases aside There aren't people in the in the u.s. Government who actually want to increase your privacy Um, I wonder though if this doesn't speak directly to the people voting If they don't all use email, you know So they think they they see the exact impact that something like this has on themselves as well This is just speculation on my part, but it seems like a pretty Stark contrast with everything else we're talking about in the security department. Yeah, and That may be part of it. It may be that us representatives are more responsive to their constituents because they represent a smaller number of people Than senators who believe, you know, that they they can get by Appealing to a different set of interests, maybe corporate interests, uh, maybe surveillance interests, maybe the fbi It's it's hard to say but it does show that I think you're wrong When you assume that all governments of both parties are anti-privacy. They aren't And I don't think they have been it's it's not a party line situation necessarily No, no, for sure. I'm not even talking about party lines here. I'm talking about Governments across the world Going more towards facilitating surveillance than the other way around um, so that's just surprising and I still think there's something fishy there like they they were they they were thinking Ooh, maybe I need to protect my emails specifically and so it spoke to them perhaps Also the in the united states anyway Most of the surveillance efforts are targeted towards foreign correspondents and this is particularly for domestic correspondents So that is a difference as well Uh, and nth bank points out don't forget representatives up for election every two years senators only up for election every six years Uh, but let me restore your lack of faith in the ability of governments to want to protect your Your transparency and privacy the united states fbi announced that starting in march It will no longer accept freedom of information requests by email foya or foypa sometimes for freedom of information and privacy requests Is a method in the united states for asking for government information to be made public? The fbi suggests using faxes Written requests or and I think this is getting a loss and a lot of the outrage over this a new e foypa website Uh, the fbi will begin accepting requests through a web form Though it says not all requests can be fulfilled using the e foypa system Now there was also a little confusing when the daily dot first reported this They noticed and they're not wrong that the terms up there say you can only make one request per day Which there is no law that limits you on the amount of requests So they said that's an that's an unusual restriction on the web form Maybe they're trying to dissuade people from using the web form the fbi got back in touch with the daily dot And said that was only in the beta version of this form Once we launched this on march 1st that restriction will go away You can make as many requests as you feel like but the the real the real issue with foya is a lot of journalists look at it and say You know the fbi is supposed to get back to you with 20 days In in respond to these requests and they never do and there's no penalty for them doing that And so taking away an avenue in this case email and replacing it with the web form Makes a lot of journalists skeptical and and a lot of Private people who use foya for various reasons skeptical that this is meant to improve anything Well, let me take the other side of that one Honestly email for these kinds of things I don't think it's the best way to do it If you have a web form, it's going to go into database somewhere you can I don't know what they have Behind that, but I can guess they maybe have a management system that assigns the task to someone and they can mark You know if it's been approved if it has been It's been worked on if it's if it's an email then maybe you can plug that in manually afterwards, but maybe it's a shared email account that everyone is using and you never know who's responded to what and I don't know. It just seems to me like the email system is not the best way of handling these kinds of requests Especially if they're very numerous. I would agree with you Except for two things one is they're saying use of fax which certainly isn't more efficient And two you could set up a system that takes that ingests emails and treats them like web forms Uh, granted a web form is going to be more efficient because you can kind of guide people in choosing Subjects and yields like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now I get that but but email could be made more efficient as well if if The the fbi had a great track record of fulfilling FOIA requests and never trying to delay I I could totally see your point. There's just a lack of trust on that because They are notorious for delaying things and and other elements of government like the cia Don't even accept emails. They only accept faxes. So it's the tradition is to slow these things down Yeah, no, I I get this but I really I mean, I don't know. I haven't used either of those services email or foya or e foya. Sorry But I don't see how the web form is going to be worse than email It's the same, you know, maybe they're going to suffer the same kind of issues But I don't see how the web web form makes it worse I understand that, you know journalists are going to say, ah, but we could send emails now we can't That seems a little bit. Yeah Well and and and things like local government sometimes they'll need, you know FBI records to to shine the light on on practices and crime levels and things like that There's all kinds of reasons for this stuff. It's not even just journalists If it weren't for the not all requests can be filled using the e foypa system and be much more On the side of of your opinion here, but that that line again There could be very there could be very reasonable justifications for that But it just with with the way that these sorts of things are usually delayed. It just seems like another way to delay you Well visio agreed to settle a lawsuit with the us federal trade commission and the state of new jersey for 2.2 million dollars Starting in 2014 visio began tracking what shows were watched Alongside ip addresses mac addresses and nearby wi-fi networks Then a third party matched that data with sex age income level and more And sold it for advertising use Visio agreed to delete all collected data stop tracking and get express permission before collecting and sharing any new information Now this is not good news for visio Visio is actually in the process of being acquired by la echo and it will be interesting to see if a la echo can Have enough money to complete the transaction and b will want to complete the transaction based on this If this causes any problems with that i'm not saying it will but it could On the other hand visio is not the only one all the smart tvs are doing data collection and I think all of them deserve some Scrutiny as to what their practices are. I think visio thought hey, this is anonymous We're just we're just taking ip address mac address wi-fi networks. We have to have all this stuff. We're anonymizing it It's where they give it to a third party kind of wash their hands like we just gave it to the third party Uh that it gets dirty and the fact that they they were telling people who use visio tvs That this was part of a program that made recommendations for shows But apparently that system has not done any recommendations in the past couple years Yeah So there you go, don't trust your television. We knew it. Yeah, I don't don't trust the government Don't trust your television. Don't trust your heating. Don't trust anything Uh cold words from Patrick visio Hey folks to get all the tech headlines each day in less than 10 minutes subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com twitter announced three updates today meant to make the service safer to use and it is in fact Safer internet day, so I guess they're taking advantage of that Uh twitter promises to use human reviewers and machine learning to do a better job of keeping band users from rejoining under a different account Uh, they won't really describe how they're doing that because they don't want people to game the system But they said we have ways to tell if somebody who has been banned is trying to get back on the service twitter's also added a safe search that does not surface posts from blocked accounts Or accounts that contain sensitive content sometimes you may have seen that where it says This tweet has something sensitive in it. Usually it's mistaken. I'll be honest, but it's that kind of stuff Uh, and finally twitter will hide abusive and what they call low quality replies It's essentially spam posts that it believes contain inappropriate words or images Users can click a show less relevant replies link if they want to see those hidden posts so What twitter's doing is not deleting things But saying if we think posts are abusive or spam, we're going to try to keep them out of your timeline Which is great. I think you know all of these uh efforts go in the right direction I think all of them are valuable in a way the one that really interests me though is Keeping users from rejoining the service if they have been banned and You know, there are two sides to this uh First of all it is it would be immensely valuable I think to the to twitter because The reality is today if you want if you get banned it doesn't matter if someone blocks you it doesn't matter You can just create an account again and come back So if you they manage to get people banned actually banned it would I'm certain improve the quality of life of many of its users and especially the ones that you need it the most um, the other side however is They they're not saying how they're going to do it and you know, that's fair enough But I really wonder how can they do it because twitter doesn't require any personal identifying information in order for you to uh open an account you can just Create it with whatever name wherever you're you know from wherever and there is no Way for them to check anything at least For facebook or another service. You're supposed to use your Actual name or you know your usual name even if they could look at your ip address to start That's not definitive obviously, but uh, they could look at bank addresses They could and the machine learning part is what's what's really intriguing, right? Can they detect a pattern of behavior? somehow a pattern of behavior may be a pattern of Relationships within the network. Maybe if you start following someone or if you start uh harassing someone specifically because of course those who create many different accounts might do it for Nefarious purposes like these Maybe they they realize. Hey, you know what? The other account was just banned or you know, maybe they're Figuring it out somehow which is again. I think it would be it would be great. Uh, and I'm certain it's not going to stop every person who wants to create different accounts, right? Obviously, there are always going to be ways until they ask for everyone's ID, you know photo ID some print blood type and yeah But if it if it stops, let's say half of them or 80 percent or however many people it stops It's going to be a good thing and twitter needs that right now And i'll be honest personally and this is just personally and i'm not trying to belittle anyone who's who's experienced Anything on the internet, but the thing that I personally run into more often is spam posts And if and if it can keep those away Uh as well as the abusive posts, then I think that is also valuable I think it gets lost in the discussion because it's not an either or you can go after both because it's very similar You're going after a profile behavior and spammers very very good at figuring out how to sign up for new accounts automatically And repost even if they get blocked so so this is good on a lot of different levels I am a little concerned with how well this is at detecting sensitive content because every time I've had that warning come up And I've you know, gridded my teeth and clicked through because it's usually somebody I know It hasn't been a sensitive item. It hasn't been very good up till now And I worry that you're going to start stomping on on people who are we're saying things that gets misinterpreted or misidentified That's it. So I I don't think I've ever seen that You know It usually happens with with a gif or a youtube video where I'm like, whoa, what is that? And then I look at it and it's like, oh, it's nothing. It's a it's a kitty cat or something like that And I'm like, why did this get flagged as sensitive? I don't know But it's like in your feed you get some posts that are like blurred out or No, it just has a little warning pops up in tweet deck and it says, hey, this may contain sensitive material Are you sure you want to see it? And then you just click to see it Huh, I've never Either it's very good with the people I follow or I don't know. It thinks old material is I'm not sensitive enough to Maybe I'm just more sensitive But I've never I've never seen that or it's not uh activated in in europe yet Well, I do see it on tweet deck. Maybe it doesn't happen on twitter.com as much Uh, well, but but anyway, I mean then that said, uh It's all in the implementation of this. This is going to roll out over the next few weeks So keep an eye on it and see if it actually improves things and keeps the the gunk out of your your timeline Or if it starts to accidentally, you know, stomp on people that that aren't doing anything wrong Keep an eye on that now as we mentioned, this is safer internet day It's something that's been going on since 2004 And it is meant it started really to help children be safer children and teens to be safer on the internet But it's become a a wider effort to just get people to understand the ways to be safe Now twitter is addressing one way to be safe avoiding Scams and spam and abusive comments and things like that Other things involve security just how to make sure that you're not getting fished that you're you're not accidentally letting someone into your account And stuff like that so I asked folks in our analysts slack The patreons in our analysts slack to throw out some suggestions for tips because the idea of safer internet day patrick Is to share with each other. Hey, these are the things you should be aware of to stay safer on the internet Uh first tip don't do silly things on uh open wi-fi Yes, a very a very very good one. Uh, yeah, we just mentioned that in the top stories, right? Which is why I was referring to it again. No. Yeah, I think you know it's uh, it's an important thing because there are maybe for our listeners Most of the tips we might Come up with are gonna be trivial and they're all gonna know them already. But I do think that It's it's important for people to Realize those things that they actually don't really think of it's almost like It's not as dangerous as driving a car because you're probably not gonna get into any kind of accident That's gonna provoke bodily harm on the internet. Sure the information super highways are not like the real highway But still so a lot of people don't really care or worry about it or Have any attention cold to it. So Having one day where those who do realize the important things about all of this might try to to Uh Call attention on them. I think is uh is definitely important So coker and our analyst slack recommended the extension https everywhere. You can get it for firefox You can get it for chrome and what it does is looks at each website you visit and if there is a secured version of that website It connects through https. It makes sure that you're connecting securely whenever that's possible This one it feels like most sites and most browser Browsers do this already. Um, but maybe it's still there are still some Well, some sites will have an https version, but they won't serve it to you by default So this kind of forces those sites to be like, hey, come on. We know you have one Yeah, and it's like what why wouldn't you that right? All right creative-est arts aka ryan Said create an alternate identity Online use only credit cards that can be turned on when purchases are made and turned off when not in use And surf the web using a virtual machine with a vpn Now granted you may not want to do this all the time But these are good tips when you're doing something you're like, hey, I want to make sure that I don't get hacked Hey, those are those are some interesting ways to go about it Yeah, it does feel like Overkill a little bit. Um, it if you were doing it day to day, but let's say you're like, I'm filing my taxes I just want to be extra certain that this information doesn't get intercepted I I still think I mean doing all of those things feel like a little bit Overkill like doing the it can't be too careful on internet. Say for internet day, Patrick Okay, fair enough. No, I agree. This is this is sort of the special case scenario Uh, this is something where you're you're just wanting to be extra careful. They are good tips for that Gadget version also just just to clarify. I think if the idea is to get lots of people To be sensitive to internet security. I think this would be overwhelming as a piece of advice if Lots of people could already do one of those which is start using a VPN when they want to be a little bit More secure that would already be a huge step. So That's where I'm coming from. This one's uh, this one's a little bit, uh, uh less extreme If you if you don't want to go to to the to all all of the efforts that ryan was mentioned gadget virtuoso says square cash Now offers a virtual card with your account and you can use it with apple pay and apple pay has a virtual card So you're double virtual there. He also mentions don't use open wi-fi networks Which uh, yeah, absolutely. Um, the the solution for payments is really interesting there Um, and the wi-fi networks again, if you're using a VPN, you're probably a lot safer Yeah, uh icing notes that even if you're not using HTTPS everywhere or even if you are Uh double check before entering any sensitive info that that site you're entering it into Has been secured, uh that that it has an HTTPS connection and that lock is on and it's green and all of that Uh, because some sites may just not have it and still be asking for your info and maybe those sites you don't want to give that info to absolutely Uh pod feet aka allison charidan reminds us to use a password manager If if we don't have our own more secure way of handling things for most people's a good secure password manager Use unique passwords at every site. Don't reuse passwords and gadget virtuoso again added turn on two factor authentication when possible And everybody mentioned make those passwords strong make them long have special characters capital letters, etc And I really understand the issues with password managers and the the problem of having, you know One password that will unlock everything all of a sudden but first of all you can secure that password probably better than you could all of the other ones and The fact that it makes you able to have really strong passwords for many of the services you use Is invaluable. So I think security is always a balance and In in this case, I think password managers tip you on the more secure side than they create new Holes for bad people to write well, it's like you say it's a matter of Balance and if you're if you're dealing with someone, maybe it's not you But you're dealing with someone who usually just uses the same password everywhere because they don't want to deal Uh, this is going to be way more secure than that if you're like look just use a password manager If you're dealing with somebody who's like, oh no I have an internal algorithm creates strong passwords that I can remember without having to use a password manager I don't know. I don't know if that's possible. But if it is sure that that is that is more secure than a password manager It's just more difficult. So it's like you say it's trade-offs. Yeah, I mean honestly We probably use what regularly like 20 30 50 Services and yeah, you can have your internal algorithm thing, but I don't I mean, I don't know. I like password managers, especially if you'd use to a big gem Says what about using ubuntu os on a cd other people said you can use it on a usb, too He says I used to do this for banking transactions online Or if I needed to open suspicious files now again, this wasn't at home This was I need to do some banking. I'm at a public computer or computer at work And I just want to be extra secure that I don't leave any trace behind Pop in that ubuntu os boot it up and then all of your your session information should disappear after you're done Yeah, I think, you know, this is absolutely Thank you, big jim. Great advice um For some cases it will be really useful and as you said CDs are maybe a little bit uh, uh passe but uh Use a usb key and and have an os that is so basically if you don't have to enter any kind of information on someone's pc You can even Do it if you're going to a friend's house. You have someone whom you know is not necessarily the most careful person Sure it wise Go there with your uh, and you need to use the computer for some reason just use your usb key You'll be safer You could use it at your own house if you're like, you know what I need to open this file off a usb stick But I'm just a little suspicious of that stick and I still need to get that file That can be another way to approach it. It's always always risky there And and big jim actually explained he's like the reason I say cd is a lot of times He used to do this at library computers and library computers would lock down the usb ports, but they'd still have the cd drive, so There you go. So it's not because he's from 19 And finally I just threw this one in here too, uh, because it kind of came up in our general conversation in the slack Be careful clicking links and opening attachments In emails, especially but in pretty much anywhere if you See an attachment, especially from somebody you don't know But even if it's from somebody you know and you're like this seems weird. Why did patrick write open file now? Please You know if it just doesn't sound like your friend, uh, just be extra careful with that because Again, uh fishing scams and malware will try to appear trusted and get you to click on things Uh went out without your thinking and it's when you're moving fast that you're the most vulnerable to that sort of stuff So kind of train yourselves not to click or open an attachment without stopping and counting to 10 Yeah, there are absolutely, uh cases where you know, I'm usually pretty careful and there are cases where I would You know, I hover over the thing and I'm like, oh wait That you can see the extension name of the file and I shouldn't be able to And so is there a dot exe behind this wait a second It's they can be very Uh tricky. I'd like to add another one. Yeah, sure. Please do Um, if you subscribe to a service or you know, you create an account somewhere and they end up Sending you your login information in clear text including the uh password It happens very often for with, you know, maybe less tech savvy companies Maybe a retail store that has a website or something like that um, and you've been using this algorithm special algorithm that you're uh, uh, that allows you to not have to use a password manager If you receive that name that that password in clear text by email by the you know, happy Service that's like, hey, you just created an account with us. Here's your password And then it's in clear text Change that password use anything it doesn't matter go back and change it Stop using that service if you can't but maybe you can't I get it. Sometimes you can't yeah Uh, thanks to everybody who participates in our sub reddit submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show Dot reddit dot com. 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Thank you guys for sending it all in you can find the full list at daily tech news show dot com Let's get to our message is randy the tech director from manchester wrote in said hello tom roger and not patrick Which he points out is right even if you aren't on the show patrick I just the magic of my nickname never I just wanted to share that I saw the exact same drones from the super bowl live at a show over the holiday break At disney springs in florida featured 300 drones over the central lake I liked the show much better than the typical firework show It was very cool to see forms rotated in 3d space It was set to music with a holiday theme and you can find the show with a quick search on youtube last about five to six minutes I think full flight time was around 10 to 11 minutes speculation on my part But this all seemed like a practiced run for things to come in the main parks Oh, I want to see that Go do a search on youtube apparently All right, uh mecca gobbler aka travis said as always amazing shows Please try and screw something up so we could take a break from endlessly complimenting you believe me There's plenty of people who find things that we've screwed up, but thank you travis Regarding the gig economy numbers particularly with uber should we have anticipated this hindsight makes the timing of these downturn numbers makes sense of four big uber actions in late 2014 early 2015 He points out one uber stopped their inflated payouts to drivers for a good while uber was vastly overpaying Drivers to get good coverage in the dc area and hold drivers from flipping to lift and the like they stopped doing that I think the drivers would argue how overpaid they were but They they reduced the payments. That's the point. Uh number two massive advertisement campaign to attract more drivers relying on the stigma of big money despite them making the driver share More realistic to their long-term profitability Three reduced the star requirement for drivers before review and probation and four reduced the requirements of the cars themselves Namely age and models allowed So it's all downhill from here Uh, yeah with with brakes But this is just I think these are interesting Elements to consider when you're wondering why uber might be declining in the number of drivers now You know, I think the the interesting thing is that uber can always Turn this around It's very as bad as all of this is at the moment None of these things aren't are are impossible to reverse You know, the bottom line is a different question but it's not like they did something that is impossible to come back from and Competition wise, I think they're still in a place where they have so much of the market cornered that it would be It would be easy for them to get people back on board Uh, real quickly rich straffolino rich from lovely cleveland said I recently wrote a piece for guest gestalt it Dot com trying to figure out who's making money in the public cloud From that I wanted to share some context for how big the snapchat google cloud arrangement is for that division In 2016 google recorded a hair over 10 billion dollars in other revenue So alone the snapchat 400 million dollar a year deal adds four percent to that revenue I assume g-suite makes up the majority of that revenue So I wouldn't be surprised if the deal actually added 10 or more to their cloud revenue for the year But that's speculation 400 million dollars may not be a lot for alphabets bottom line But for their cloud aspirations, it's a huge addition Good point And then jason and main said hey The guy who had the weird Translations and weird languages showing up on the oppo Where or wait it was a one-plus when he was checking out with wireless payment He's like not just a one-plus thing happened to me with my nexus 5x. So uh good I guess it's good to know jason. It's not just a one-plus thing and then tony said Uh in your discussion with allison yesterday Shipping has declined and I just want to say that perhaps it has something to do with the fact that they're Also trying to go with more of a premium market. He's referring to xiaomi's shipping declining Because xiaomi has always been entry level and very affordable So that will probably affect the number of units shipped the mi mix is a thousand dollars I think there's also a rumor they're trying to expand into the u.s. Market. So that could affect that as well Yeah, that's a lot of dollars. It sure is It's the amount of dollars you should give to patrick's patreon's at frenchspin.com Yes, I agree So when you think of it like that, it's really not that many dollars. Don't forget what I said just before Yeah, yeah, really Yes, thank you tom, uh, you can absolutely go to frenchspin.com not just to give me money But also to listen to the shows that are available there one of them is pixels if you want to have a Summary of the gaming news from the past couple of weeks another one Is the philis club? I told you last week that we had a show We just recorded a show with a number of friends talking about a lot of what's been happening in the u.s. And I did feel like we needed to get in a more conservative if you want things and As as difficult as it was for me by golly I did it and we had a lovely conversation with a couple of conservative friends and That's I talk about the philis club a lot on the show. So I'm sure you know what it's about But it's about Having those conversations and listening to what the other side has to say so you can make your decision In an informed manner And keep the conversation alive. So I'm really glad we managed to do that. 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Um frozen frenchman in finland I like uh vizy uh-oh but Oh like the icq uh-oh Oh, what about uh Say for internet date tips your friends will ignore Say for internet tips your friends like there's pretty funny. I like that. It's so true too Because it's all stuff most of us in the audience know it's more about like hey, don't forget to tell your friends this Yeah, but it's too much work. They're not gonna do it. That's what I've learned That's why I felt but I'm one of those people with an internal algorithm for passwords What is it? Well, I just like you everything has a theme Okay, I can't I I'll categorize you don't want to reveal or reveal too much about it. Yeah, yeah, don't Oh, no Now you're gonna have to guess through millions of possible spellings or misspellings in my case For words I don't use dictionary words. That's number one. That's or if I do it'll be part of a My my bugbear has always been it's not how Arcane your password is it's how long it is the longer the better Yeah, you want to you want to maximize the amount of Characters you can use because it doesn't matter. That's why that's why it frustrates me so much when when uh sites outlaw special characters I'm like you just oh, I hate that set of possible passwords. That's it's so bad I had a I don't remember what site when it was a fun It was like a credit card company and they used to support um non, you know non alphabetter Neural numeric. Yeah, it's like and they stopped it. It's like, why did you do that? Why? That speaks everything Easier over time. It doesn't matter Doesn't matter. Was he get that When we get those quantum computers online I'll be like cracking walnuts. I just used not one two three four five No one's ever gonna guess that one I do everything in person. I drive up to the bank or the drive through tell us. I just don't use the internet I don't use the internet ever That'll keep me secure Uh, so twitter uh Happy safer internet day FOIA requests ended via pony express. Haha Really really strong password Really really really Yo fax me up dog I was born ready. There you go Um, I'm starting to freeze so I'm gonna go to the room where there's more heating. Is there a warmer room? Yeah, you should go there. Enjoy your french equivalent of hot chocolate Thank you. All right. Thanks, Patrick. Get more eyes. Bye. Bye What is the french equivalent of hot chocolate? Is it swiss miss? Ha What's what's french for hot? No, no, I mean like do they have a beverage that's not hot chocolate? They have chocola. I mean, it's just hot chocolate Oh, that's All right I'm not asking for a translation Of hot chocolate. They have chocolate in France, roger It's just you have to stir it with a baguette. Is that what you're looking for? It's a baguette slash straw show show chocola Uh, so I take it safer internet day tips your friends will ignore. Yeah, I think so too. That's a good one It's cold here So wait a minute then like how does the pipe stop burst when no one's around in that place? Well, he was explaining this to me before the show he keeps they keep electric heaters on At a any minimum amount so that when the temperature is Closer to freezing even sub even sub sub zero Celsius but closer to freezing It will keep the pipes from from bursting But if the temperature falls too far below zero Then even the low setting might not be enough. So that's when they want people to go out there And is it that just like a land boat in that case? A land boat wait, what do you know? So the whole idea behind the boat is it's it sounds cool and exciting until you actually own one Because then you know, you feel like you only in the winter, right? I get in the summer the country house is lovely. It's gorgeous Because then it's then it's only freezing can't you just rent it? Well, that's what I'm saying like, you know Oh, nobody wants to live out there when it's that cold. You can't rent it while it's super cold Well, you apparently you can't live in it unless you unless you you know pack up for an expedition No, you once you get the heat up then it's livable then it's fine It's just that they just got there like moments ago hours ago. So it takes a while for the heat to get back up Right, I guess Sounds like a land boat Well, I mean any kind of second home is going to have stuff like that, isn't it? Yeah, which is why you typically rent it out But you can't rent it out in the middle of winter when it's some zero living on the land boat I love that because it's such a it's such a simon and simon reference a land boat. It's like a pool too You know what? That's that's one of the things I learned when I was going for a home is like pools Absolutely do not add value to your house whatsoever. They they're fun We lived we rented a place that had a pool. It was nice But we didn't use it nearly enough to justify the trouble and we weren't even paying for the upkeep Just just the sort of like it cracked once and they had to empty it and reseal it And I had to make sure that we kept putting water in it. So we ran the water bill up And it's just you know, it's it's a safety hazard If you have little kids it's a safe, you know, it's go to the safety hazard for everybody It's especially a safety hazard for kids. Definitely But like a community pool totally makes sense because then you Ostensibly depending on the time of year they'll have a lifeguard Yeah, someone's always maintaining it I think I think I would prefer I actually prefer not having one at all. I guess but yeah I would prefer having like a waiting pool That you wouldn't have to keep full all the time like a kiddie pool during the summer not not a kiddie pool But like a smaller pool that's not as much of a hazard. You don't have to keep as much water in it It warms up faster a hot tub Yeah, maybe just maybe a hot tub, but I would like people to float a little so I'm talking like a two foot So a bigger hot tub Like the one they use a hot tub time machine That accommodated six guys or five guys So maybe four Rob cordry that other guy that guy and the kid I tell you what though when we rented that place it was nice to just float Out on a weekend when it was hot and sunny Oh, no, I mean like when it when it totally calls for it. It's perfect. Yeah, it's just like it just doesn't happen as often Yeah That's where you have the penthouse suite Living on a land boat It's gonna be a phrase it's a land boat A dacha Everyone has a dacha Everyone Yes, our summer home in oakland You know, I've never just like, you know summer home. It's just like I don't know I I've I've known too many people who've like had like oh, we have a condo or we have a cabin And they always just feel obliged to use it year after year because they're spending money on it It's the the jet age kind of changed the calculus for that right back back when it was much harder to travel In the summer when you wanted to get away for a vacation having A place you owned that you could always go to was a big advantage You didn't have to find a new place. You weren't going to go that far anyway but now When you could be like, well, I can go to this one place every year or I could fly to an entirely different place and Stay in an awesome hotel like it just it's a totally different situation And and traveling is more flexible and more cost-effective By jet in hotel than it is owning a place that you have to keep up all the time Ohio cow says I have a summer home. It's also my winter home and my spring home It's where I live Oh eight p s l s lc josh from the chat room said that I guess in hot tub time machine They had eight people in the tub at one point That's a big tub. Yeah, it's a nice party unless it's all dudes. Well, I think Yeah, there you are next door All my windows got moved around had to restart my machine And even though it opened everything back up, it didn't put the windows in the same place on the screen that they were I gotta figure out why my pc won't turn off I'm assuming which card did you get you got an nvidia? I got a gtx 1060 from pny. It's called the xl Like it's an overclocked model. Let's call the xlr The heck is it called? Uh, it's called the overclock gaming xr. Oh accelerate so xlr and the number eight number eight. Yep Uh, I just You know, I had this problem with my last nvidia card ever since the the driver update back in September or august My pc had that issue and I always thought it was the video card, but I guess not Right because a different video card. You have the same issue So I just won't let the computer shut off like windows closes, but it won't start windows shuts down and the drives spin down But the fan the fans continue to run And the led on the card keeps lit it stays lit and the led is on the motherboard statements So something's still pulling card won't let everything shut off Yes, and I'm wondering if it's because I have a sound card in another PCI express 16 lane slot, you know because the board allows for sli But the other I don't it's just only one video card to use the other slot for my audio card but that card uses a additional power Mollux plug because it's like I don't know why oh no, I got it for free. That's why I got it Oh the card. Yeah the audio card. It's um It's just a high-end audio card Which it's kind of sucks though because there's there's a lot of distortion when the video card ramps up You just hear static on like speakers whatever As we're just yanking out at this point um But yeah, I just I think I'm wondering if we try taking that sound card out and see what happens Yeah, I'm gonna do two things and reset the CMOS. That doesn't do anything. I'll take the sound card out Yeah, resetting the CMOS is one of those things you always should do it almost never fixes anything for me though It does it. It's um because very rarely is it a CMOS issue. Yeah But the one time it is you want to make sure you've done it Sausage burn. Yeah, it's not that long of a show today Is it taking so long it was longer than 40 it was 45, but uh desi's taken forever to export Don't understand why Um Did you record it as stereo? Is it a wave? Is it no all those settings are exactly the same as they were yesterday Well, we will ponder upon these and many other mysteries folks And be back tomorrow with scott johnson Talking blockchain with john waltz from IBM baby letter d boy