 Okay, let's go. Let's let's get your thoughts because you guys were racking it up earlier with Tom of Midnight's Edge Chris Gore in regards to this. What's this gentleman's name Chris Stuckman? Criticize this What? What is your thoughts on on what this gentleman says because he's got a big platform? Yeah, he does and He's been at it. He's been at this game for a while from what I read Never fall. I don't know he is until this happened. I I fall I watch his reviews regularly. Okay it's just another data point in terms of Whether, you know, something might be good or not. I I don't think he is I Think he's a very even-handed reviewer He has a lot of Background he's done independent films, but he's also a real collector of films It's it's clear that he watches a lot of them and he's a fan of films He's not a he's not a dilettante in that regard. He also plays video games and then he put out this video where he talked about how Madame Webb is, you know, he's not gonna criticize it because Every, you know movies are hard to do and they're a huge amount of work and And He's just not gonna bother to crap on it because there's enough people crapping on it already Which that I kind of agree with like why bother adding to the the noise at least he came up with something different with regards to The movie which is something I try to do all the time in my channel. That's an honest take That's an honest take what he you're from what you just told me So he just you know, he said if you want to I mean I'm paraphrasing you want to watch negative reviews of Madame Webb There's lots up the lots there already But I disagreed with his weepy Presentation in terms of you know movie making is hard It's arduous But it's exciting it's tiresome but energizing and You could be Collapsing on the ground in the evening, but when then you roll in the next day and you're in makeup You're just completely charged up. I mean, it's There's there's no your batteries are fully charged You're ready to go and you're gonna expend all that energy by the end of the day and I didn't understand so it's hard But it's not difficult. So I didn't understand his word His use of the word hard as if we're supposed to feel sorry for these people these people all of whom got paid Extremely handsomely. Yes, they have egos. None of them want to be in a stinker like that doesn't help your career although this movie You know apparently is is is so bad that people are actually feeling sorry for the actors So I don't think it's going to hurt anybody's career. This is not gonna bring anybody down Okay But I go ahead Good movies, you know, if you know the the solution to bad movies is make a good one so He's It's an honest take right as far as like hey, I'm just not gonna add to that's just mine like right I Get it and I've done that a few times, you know, it just is like, you know, what why am I gonna do a Whatever, you know, you know, why am I gonna do another Ziegler hate video? Um and then he you were saying that he says that filmmaking is is hard and he's a filmmaker, right? He he did an independent based on some independent movies. Yeah, okay Okay, I Would say getting it financed is hard Yeah, um Making a movie is Wonderful in that you're constantly solving problems and that's all you're thinking about You're you're complete. You've got five days to shoot the film You've blocked it out. You've planned things. You've got your locations. You're just so involved in getting it done That's not sure the hard part hard part is getting it financed I'm gonna wait and talk to you about that Did he say it at any point? Hey, don't don't bash on the film. No He's just like this is just me. Yeah and he did say that Uh He did say that He he didn't have experience with doing big Hollywood movies Uh, it's a different type of freedom. It's a different type of process. Yeah, you know, it's a different thing We know from experience. What kind of pressure, you know, I call it the executive notes Executive notes are the absolute most horrendous thing that You you could hear friend of mine is is Has sold his documentary And even he and he produced it he it's done. He you know all on his own that being said he's like I am so bogged down with with um with a Red tape of it. Just the red tape Uh That it's it's amazing that anything gets through to you know, because it's with a reputable Distribution company and then you're going to see his documentary on on amazon and apple Oh fantastic. Congrats pretty amazing pretty pretty incredible and and and he did it independently like it's already made But soon as you're dealing with studios and legal Forget it forget it. That's a that's a different that's a different monster. I I will say this just just personally right I pay for most If not like a super majority of the movies I go see I pay out of my own pocket Right. I am not I'm not a rich man. That's why when I say you're super chaps Super chats help they really help me So I can pay for my a-list I can pay for this when I when I do get early access or get invited I let the viewer know hey Chris go inviting me to this. I don't know what right boom boom boom So that gives me liberty to love it Or not love it and I and and and that's you know, these are hard-earned dollars I mean, I work, you know, very hard Whether it's this you know doing this with you guys my other businesses I we work very hard So my thing is well if I put my money down I could say whatever I want Absolutely and and the other place where I thought Chris was out of line was A studio with the resources and the money that they've got Should not be putting out something this shitty like They have everything at their disposal. Yeah good writers. They can afford good writers Yeah, they can afford good directors. They can afford the best talent the best talent was great Well most the the female talent. I really liked yeah, you know It's but the it's the writing it's the directing it's a vision. It was like This this it wasn't even good bad like Morbius. It was just Terrible Yeah, and Morbius is an example of something that is half-assed But is slick enough to look like it's Hollywood made and those bastards at Hollywood I mean, that's the one thing that differentiates a Hollywood movie from an independent movie Even if you watch something as shitty as uncharted It looks like a Hollywood production Right, even if they have the stupid flying Galleons, which would never fly in the air all apart. So And an independently produced movie looks independent. I mean they just have that Feeling to it now. Yeah, so my my thing was You guys were talking about it and Chris was saying that making movies is not hard I completely disagree I was you know, it is one of the most difficult things to do like you. Yes, you have to have discipline Discipline is not an easy Thing to practice every day You know, especially if you're creative if you're an artist if you're a producer with that with that with it with your Your different mentality to produce that's much different than being a creative You know creative people are often not very not not a Business savvy and don't know how to do not know how to work in teams Which gore also said, you know, you've got to make a movie. It's you gotta have a team It's like right then. How can you say this is easy? Nothing? What you just said is easy So so this is okay. So as I said in the in the show and right now Hard needs to be defined Because I've done this It's a challenge To find the right people Yeah, so is that hard and I've had a dop quit the day before shoot. Oh my god director photography everybody Yeah, so so the thing is now you're on the phone and you're trying to find someone and I'm a problem solver. I have never not failed to solve a problem. I have utter confidence in myself I'm like Radar in mash Where I need to get my favorite characters of all time So I need to get this thing. I'm the guy who got it I need the boots that make you look like kiss I went out Got them like I know the creatives are not like but you're not like every creative You're actually balanced on both sides of your brain. Come on. Yeah. Yeah, I'm driven If I'm in the middle of no, you know, you could be driven and just still be on one side of your brain You're you're you have both your gear your gearhead and and also to a Creative comedic writer and I understand the finances And you understand the finances like I like I needed you like 40 years ago anyways And I can do something together now Yeah, let's do it. It's called uh, holy pablito chat chat chat slantinos Paul Paul and poly together orly Orly as we walk down some street bringing that up explosions behind us, you know because because gore was saying it's it it it it's We have to define hard because yeah, I for one believe this is one of the hardest businesses. Yep to just Compete in guys. I'm mind. I'm out. There's no just because you join sag. That doesn't mean employment doesn't actually it's actually Sometimes it's you lose a lot of them because you are sag if you understand that you know what I mean Um, so we can go back and forth back and forth, but this is a you know back to stuck man That's a great question though defining hard. I think he was a bit. I think he was a bit flip Well, you know, yeah, I mean Yeah, that's that's gore being gore and that's why I love you know getting in getting into it with him and because I think he does that too just to get more conversation going which I mean flogging a script for two years and not and and getting a no Every single time you have a meeting Does that is is that hard? Hmm It's crushing crushing very well, but what's funny is if you do it and Then that's just part of the journey. You don't you don't put it into the hard mentally the hard column If you succeed it's hard while you're not succeeding Did you just have what i'm talking about? I do because it this this is a That's why it's so psychotic this business. Yes Yes, exactly. You're exactly right. Yeah And that and see and and I listen god bless you all God bless you all that uh, are not that have not dabbled in this business and yet say Well, my boss does this and I have to deliver it. It's not the same. No, it's not the same Your example, it's true. It's true in in business world in that business world, right? But this is the most insecure Yes Business you can imagine and where it demands any creative To be insecure emotionally insecure to succeed In writing in right acting. It's just it's just Well, it's you've also got this Jekyll and Hyde thing where while you're defending your creative to executives You are absolutely certain of its quality and its successful Of possibilities, right then they go. Okay. I'm green lighting it. Here's some cash Now you are scared to death. You're like fuck fuck I have to deliver