 Hello, everyone. Welcome to this meeting of the Community Preservation Act Committee on December 21, 2023. I'm calling the meeting to order at 7.03 pm. We're meeting remotely via Zoom, which is permitted by the town and state. This meeting is being recorded and will appear on the town of Amherst CPA webpage. I'm going to call on people now so that we know that you can hear us and that we can hear you. I'm Sam McLeod. Tim. Present. Bob. Here. Matt. Present. Doug. Present. Michelle. Present. Katie. Here. Robin. Present. David. Present. So I believe that's all of us. If I missed somebody, please speak up. And it seems that everyone can hear us and we can hear you. We need to have a minute taker for every meeting. Does anyone wish to volunteer to do so for this meeting? I'll go my turn. All right. Thank you, Michelle. Thank you, Michelle. So. We left off our last meeting. In the process of deliberations, I sent an agenda around and we'll commence again with our discussions in a moment. The first item on our agenda is to approve any outstanding minutes. We did just receive a draft of earlier minutes from Robin. Robin, do you recall which date was that was? Was it the. 9th of November? It was the 9th of November. Yeah. So I don't, I don't know that we have time. You know, anyone's had an opportunity to look those over at present, but. They're submitted here so that we'll be sending them to everyone to look over. To provide comments and thank you, Robin. I don't think we need to approve them today. The next item on our agenda is public comment. I don't see anyone in the audience, but I'd like to invite anyone who wishes to make a public comment to do so. It's required of any public meeting. To provide the opportunity. I'll wait a minute in case somebody's in queue. I guess it's the time of year where everyone, even in Amherst, there's fewer words to be said in the evening with other things going on. So I'm not seeing any, anyone in the audience. You know, hands are raised given another 15, 20 seconds. Right. No one in the audience. So I'll call the public comment portion of the agenda to a close. And the next item on our agenda is to continue to discuss and vote on recommendations to for the town council. I think it would be helpful. Holly, if we could take a look at that spreadsheet that we had up at our previous meeting. Yeah. So I'm going to hold that up. And I just want to, if I may go over a couple of things. Number one, there was a few questions from the last meeting. I believe Robin had raised. Question of whether or not there was any additional funding for historic preservation where we had some due diligence funds for surveys, et cetera. There is no money in historic preservation. I believe there is a small bit of money left under the open space category. I think she was thinking of using portion of that money for one of the smaller historic preservation projects. There is no money available there. The other thing was we had talked about, can the administrative expenses be used for the historic preservation restrictions? Can that come out of our administrative costs? And the answer to that is no. I did speak with Sonia Aldrich earlier today and confirmed that that is why a couple years back I think you were adding in about $5,000 for those on a couple of the projects, which is what I believe we were thinking of doing on the Amherst Zion Church. And then the third thing I wanted to just very quickly go over with folks is I tried very hard over the last couple of days to make contact with a couple of folks on some projects that still had money left that are a little bit older. If any of them are done and can be closed out, I was only able to come up with one. There are a few that are hoping to finish up by the end of this fiscal year by June 30th, which may have some balances or may not. It all depends on how those two play out. But I was able to identify one project with, and you all can see my screen right now. I'm hoping so there's one project with a $27,000 balance that is not going to be used. The project is done there past the three years. So we do have, I was, I was looking to see if we could cover that $432 to somewhere and I found that and a little more. So I was able to identify $27,000 that I just need to close out and roll back in to the available funds and that's going to give us just a slight bit of cushion there. So, great job, Holly. Thank you. So with that, and I tried to rework the formulas here in the spreadsheet so that you can own. Where did Holly go. It says I'm the host now. I'm guessing that she accidentally disconnected. Let's wait a moment for her to resign in since she looks amazing Sam. Dave looks amazing. Dave looks amazing. Dave's upside down. I mean, it's incredible. Well, I've been there. What happened? Where is he? Oh, David Williams. Yes. Upside down on our screen. Okay, I can't see and see it. I'm working on it. You all go ahead. I hear you're with us. I do that. So we're going to wait a little bit for Holly because she has the spreadsheet of importance for her. Doug, I see that your hand is raised. Yeah, I was going to ask a question in this interlude. During the minutes conversation. Did you say that we were all sent the November 9th minutes in draft form? No, they were just sent to Holly and me about 15 minutes ago or so. All right. Looking for them in my inbox. So Holly or I will send them in if there's any comments. So at our next meeting. We'll have those done. That's good news that we got from Holly regarding the 27,000. So we'll have to consider that. Now, I don't have. Holly's direct contact. Away from the office. I'm wondering Dave Zomac. Do you. Have a way to reach Holly. What's, what's transpiring. I see you nodding. Let me, let me just check on that Sam. I'm actually not sure. Hopefully it's not a power outage. Range solstice doings. That's right. It's the solstice. Shortest day of the year. Thank God. You won't need to let her in. I don't believe so. I'm looking at panelists and attendees and. She's not currently an attendee, but that's always a possibility. So thank you. It's a. It's a function of the zoom age. Let me see if I can get it somehow here. The good news is. I believe we made good progress at our last. Meeting. So I think we're still in a good position, despite any delays that occur. There, there's back. I think accounting department. There she is. Okay. You're back. Well, that was fun. Sorry guys. Did it go well for everybody or just me? Just you. Okay. I thought I lost everybody. Thank God I made you a co-host. I thought I canceled the whole thing. Sorry. Computer died and then it needed to update. So let me get back to where I was. Those updates are really troublesome. They, they happen and they go on for quite a while. On a number of occasions. Let's see. I'm sorry about that guys. No problem. Okay. So here we are back to. So. Now with the little bit of extra that I have. Found. I'm going to have to rework my formulas. I'm going to have to give me a second here. I think we had about. Just over 26. Almost $27,000. Available. Lost everything. All right. I'm going to stop sharing my screen for a moment and try to recover the spreadsheet because I appear to have lost it. So. Give me a minute and. Sam, do you have like an ice breaker or something we could do while Holly? Pardon. An ice breaker. I was just going to check in on how Bob Saul's feeling yet COVID last week. How you doing? So I'm, I'm feeling great. I was about to, I was about to stall by asking an esoteric question. That's only a newbie can ask. And it's really both Dave and Sam and. Maybe Tim and the wiser heads here. I was just looking down the list and trying to determine if qualitatively. The the two. Funds for affordable housing. Are somehow. Different in their characteristics than the cap X. Matches from CPAC for town projects. And maybe this is again going from brushing off the cobwebs of my old. Fincom experience that. It seemed to me in. The cap X budget that town. Presents to the Fincom. There's a whole laundry list of things that. Need to be done. A lot of it is. Most of it is deferred maintenance and it just would seem that. The CPAC funds have more of a. For lack of a better term, more of a venture capital type of characteristic to them. They sort of get things kickstarted. Similar with the trust fund and the towns. Funds to suss out the affordable housing project. So I'm sort of asking a big question. Is there. Is there a different priority. For town cap X projects such as the warm oil playground. Versus. These, these funds that are lying in wait to initiate. Some of these affordable housing projects. I'm going to have to profess ignorance. I'm not really familiar with cap X. Proposals, despite your description. I'm not cognizant of. What. What it is that makes a project, a cap X project. I don't know what it is to be a member of the cap X. Perhaps Dave's own Mac might help. I see that Matt Kane has his hand up, Matt. I mean, I don't know if I can definitively answer you, Bob, but I was. My first year on the committee last year and I was a bit worried about what the role of CPA funds in the town budget were myself. And I guess that my working hypothesis right now is. You know, it's sort of another form of capital. That the town has access to, you know, there's also the community development block grant, which is a sort of a similar thing as this. That's a block of money that comes, I think from the federal government or something. And then we have this, this, this capital allocation. And then obviously this year. A lot of the requests for the CPA money are coming from the town. You know, 80% or something. So. My, the way I think about it is it's just like. Another form of capital that town has access to that we can spend in these, in these ways. And then with respect to the affordable housing trust and the town affordable housing account. You know. Last year there was the CPA committee gave directly to some to two affordable housing projects and in previous years they have done that also. But in, in this year, we don't have. Any direct projects to give to so we can just allocate the money to the town. And through the affordable housing trust or directly. And then they can spend it more on these development funds. As a follow up Matt, I mean hearing your response. And I assume you know this, but I'll communicate it just in case anyone listening. The town. There's a 3% tax on. That is allocated specifically for the CPA funds and the CPA funds must. Be. Spent or utilized in these four categories. So that probably, you know, I know what we are. I'm not familiar with the, the cap X at first it was one and a half or 1% and then the town voted to raise it to 3%. But if anyone has any. Differing. Awareness, let me know we have the ability to. Allocate full. We have the ability to, you know, we have the ability to, you know, recommend funding, excuse me, recommend funding, which goes to finance and then towards town council. For any projects that we deem appropriate and wish to recommend. That qualify. And that's regardless of whether the project is from. Originates from a town initiative or. An external initiative. So. Yeah, I was wondering, isn't there a distribution. Requirement for a certain percentage of our funds to go to. Each of the four categories and was that not true. 10% is needed. And the existing debt service. Qualifies as a component of that 10%. So for. With all the bonding that's existed, we. We meet that 10% I believe in. All the categories before we even make recommendations here. So we don't need to do that calculation tonight. I think it's already been done. Okay. Tim. Yeah, that, that, by the way, that calculation was done in some of Holly's previous financial sheets. Yeah, I was a former finance committee meeting so member. So let me see if I can help out. You understand this. Yeah. Yeah. So the town has a capital budget that's funded through. The property taxes. And the operating budget and the capital budget come out of those property taxes. So normal capital expenditures like a fire truck or. Police cruiser or things like that come out of the town's capital budget. So what we do is deal with the supplemental 3% tax levy. That every taxpayer has to pay that goes into a completely different pot that we have an ability to distribute. And so the monies that go to the. Trust fund and on these projects are not at all in the town's budget. So if that was not a 3% CPAC levy, none of those projects could happen. Or they might compete against other general capital needs within the town's budget. So if that helps to explain it, that's what we're dealing with. Thank you, Doug. Appreciate that. Holly. Okay. Oh boy, what a day. I lost the entire spreadsheet because I had not saved it apparently. And so I'm just going to ask Dave Z. If he can. I think all the numbers back to what we discussed. At the last meeting, but Dave, if you could just look at the town. Projects. Was it 300 for the. Municipal Amherst municipal affordable housing trust and we went to 150 for the town. I have a copy. Okay. I just don't have it with me right here right now. I just want to make sure I got everything back in there the right way. I believe I did. I believe I did. So with the additional. If you're able to share it, it would. Oh. Give us. I'm so sorry. Visual. I also have a spreadsheet with the correct numbers that we discussed last week. I'm pretty sure I got it back. Okay. Are these the correct. Charles went to 80. Yes. 85 to 65. We added the 5,000 here to the Zion. We took 50 off of this. Okay. So I got everything back to where it should be. I'm so sorry guys. It's been a week. So with the. Additional funds that I. Can I interrupt Holly? Have you saved what you just created? I recommend that you save what you just created. This is the publisher and he who has documents that get edited all the time. You can just use the cloud solution and don't have to bother. That would be good, but we're not there. Okay. I don't want to be to it. We're a dash. Okay. Go ahead. Sorry. I was serious in my comment. Yeah. So. So. Like I said, that that's what we've got right now. And that leaves us with. 26. 698 to the positive. 26, 698. So, aside from the individual projects, I guess, I guess one question would be, is there. Does the committee wish to allocate. The additional. 26, 698. And if so. What project might those funds be utilized for? So I'll just. Make that comment and see what people say. Tim. We anticipated my. Proposal and that is I would add back. The 20,000 for the softball fields. That we took out the last time, which would take 20 out of that 27. So we'd still have about 7,000 ish to play with. And the reason I would add that back. Is I feel we need to do all three sites for softball. Fields. There's a safety issue. Particularly. And the town was generous in terms of helping us out to meet our targets. But now that we have a little bit more money. To play with, I would strongly suggest we add 20,000 back to the. Softball proposal. And put it at his original funding request of 85,000. Doug. Yeah, I was, I was going to take the opposite tack and say, we should just find what. Each applicant ended up asking for and. Leave it at that. It sounds like occasionally requests come in. Outside of the usual cycle. And I would appreciate having a little money. In reserve that we could. Respond to something like that with. Other committee members. The question is, do you wish to. Allocate the recently returned. And net balance of 26, 698 to current projects. Matt. Yeah. Thanks, Tim, for suggesting the softball fields. I have a specific question for Dave about that. One of the things that was discussed in the recreation committee about those softball fields is whether or not the town could actually. Maintain. Kawanas Park and Groff Park and community field. So in the recreation. The concern was that the improvement would be done. At Kawanas, but then not maintained. And it probably wouldn't. Make sense. So. So. With respect to the 25,000. I'm happy to allocate it to projects, either one of the affordable housing or. Trials. But I'm, I'm easy either way. I'm not, I don't have a very strong opinion. Let me ask this question. Is there any committee member. In addition to Doug. Who does not want to allocate. The 26,698. Dollars. I'm happy to allocate it to projects, either one of the affordable housing or. Trials. But I'm, I'm easy either way. I'm not. I don't have a very strong opinion. Let me ask this question. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not going to allocate. Dollars. I guess we're big spenders. If you have it, you spend it. I'm not feeling strong about that. So I will not obstruct. The, or, you know. Prevent consensus. Very good. Dave's all Mac. I'm sorry. And went. I was just, I was just trying to think a little bit about Matt. question and I think it's a good one and we struggled with it as staff and we came up with the the compromise proposal for two reasons really in part to help you all get to the number we all needed to get to but the other part of it was the reality of can we DPW in the recreation department realistically maintain that field in the back portion the southern portion of Kiwanis and I'm of two minds here I you know I always try to strive for you know kind of going for it we should do it I mean with with Fort River coming offline for probably two years two seasons we're gonna need you know softball fields you know I just I think if Amy Rusecki were here I think she would be struggling as I am to say absolutely we can make that commitment that we will be able to maintain that so I'm struggling a bit Matt and answer your question I I wish I could say a hundred percent we have the the resources the people power to do it but I'm a little worried I will say this if when not if when Fort River comes off there's going to be a lot of scrutiny and a lot of focus on swing space right field swing space if you will and I think we're going to have to step up our game to provide those spaces for field sports and you know sports that depend on a diamond like like like softball so I'm kind of 50 50 on on on the answer there I wish I could be more concrete but thank you Dave just I'll get you in one moment Michelle Dave so do you know when Fort River is coming offline the fields approximately I I do not holly may have a sense of that but I I believe work or is likely to start in the spring and then the let's see the southern section of of the site actually where the softball field I think it's going to come offline in the spring or early summer of 24 okay I'm trying to worry in myself like the the softball field is on the southern side of Fort River school site in the final version it'll be on the northern end but I think in the late spring early summer that we lose that softball field thank you Michelle yeah so that late spring early summer is exactly softball season right and I would just say that in the you know rec leagues you rotate between Fort River Kiwanis and mill and they're always all being used and it always kind of seemed like Kiwanis wasn't maintained anyway but you're going to play on it no matter what and safety conditions nonetheless and I mean what is Kiwanis without the softball field it's kind of just the softball fields or just a place to walk your dog so I'm in favor of Tim's suggestion you know at least like ramp it up now and then later on if you want to take it offline at least we have the softball fields to support rec softball while Fort River was not happening thank you does anyone have other projects such as the trail restoration and enhancement that they consider to be a candidate or perhaps affordable housing funds if it were my comment which it is I guess I would I would consider both the trail restoration and the softball fields as candidates for funding we've heard a few individuals in support of softball fields so far any other committee members that have an opinion or a comment as to where they believe those funds might go if we were to use them well okay we've got sand it's up okay I gotta fix my screen a bob yes sorry yeah I'm I'm simply gonna throw my to mix metaphors throw my hat into the softball field allocation I I feel a little bit for the trail restoration because it's sort of fungible it's hard to kind of see a concrete result and that said I'm still a supporter of softball okay well we have three three who want to use it for softball one who suggested that we might wish to retain the funds for rainy day lack of a better term any other comments or thoughts from committee members on this we could conceivably use 20,000 for softball fields and 6,698 for trails if we wanted or 5,000 for trails and leave I'm seeing no no no strong opinions I've seen a one thumbs up maybe we do that maybe we it seems to be that there's an interest in allocating 20,000 for the softball field would anyone be opposed to allocating 20,000 from the recently discovered return funds towards softball fields would anyone not be in favor of that one Sam yes David um while the conversation was going on I was switching computers and trying to get connected okay listening to the conversation about the softball field and the I think I may have these figures right 26,000 the additional the additional money money is to complete all three of the softball fields I think in our discussions a couple of weeks ago David made the recreation committee came back and made major adjustments in their budget the whole issue of the pickleball being not a project that um I guess we're moving forward with as a part of the recreation in Amherst I would support the whole idea and concept of the three softball fields being completed and using the I think you said 26,000 I think I might 26,698 dollars and move forward okay I think we hold that we hold that to the town now that we have to the citizens now that we have backed up with the pickleball courts and other recreation type of activities uh thank you David if I hear you correctly um you're in favor of funding the requested amount that existed from for the softball project the requested amount if I'm wrong let me know Dave was a hundred thousand dollars we adjusted it down to eighty thousand dollars last week based on the town's input and I believe you're affirming or agreeing with the idea of returning that twenty thousand dollars uh or were you seeking to exceed the request to a hundred and six thousand no well not to exceed the request it's providing the money that was originally requested okay so that's a fourth person in favor of returning twenty thousand to the softball fields which seems to be nearing towards consensus uh Tim well Matt did you want to tell you had your hand up or maybe just took it down oh I was just correct correcting the numbers it was 85 down to 65 back to 85 so on the table is to go to go for the softball field facilities from 65 back to 85 which leaves us about 6800 ish or so left okay uh just an editorial comment regarding the softball facilities and this is more maybe a question for David Zomac and that is my guess is that if we repair the softball facilities that will also repair the field so if people want to have like ultimate frisbee or a soccer and they just reorient and use part of the field that's used for softball it's going to be a multi-use so it's not just to have a better softball facilities to have a more safe more appropriate field the primary purpose of which is softball so just that's in my my head I feel a little more comfortable using dollars that way so that would help but that's just an editorial comment Dave Zomac uh thanks Sam um yeah and I like where this is going you know I think you know I'm I'm certainly convinced that I think we you know if you all are willing I think we need to kind of reach here and get these three fields done and you know for a river we need to keep in mind um it's it's a two-year build and then you've also got to rest that new grass so you're not going to be on that field for a couple of years solid so I was I was kind of compelled by what Michelle was was saying as well um but uh to Tim's point uh Tim that's not exactly kind of spot on um this work is primarily in the infield it really doesn't do a lot with the outfields of these soccer field uh excuse me softball fields it's primarily dealing with the base pass skinning the base pass um leveling them out laser leveling the infield so you don't have big lips you don't have holes and dealing with these uh old um back stops so it really doesn't benefit uh the the multiple use uh for a place well any of these places are used by other sports the outfields but we really this money will not do much to the outfields so I want to be accurate on that it's mostly an infield rehab of all three locations thank you Dave yep thank you you're good okay uh Michelle uh just that the the fields will continue to be mowed though so in terms of what Tim was saying like yes you could still play ultimate there just not in a diamond per se yeah so uh it seems that uh there's consensus brewing to return the 20 000 to from 65 000 to 85 000 uh thank you Matt for recognizing my I misspoke previously um and now there is another balance of 6 698 of new funds surplus if we wish to allocate that to any of the projects uh does any committee member have any thoughts on what we may or may not do with the six thousand six hundred ninety eight dollars Tim your hand was up first is that a layover or is this a new no it's not a layer I was going to speak to what you just yeah mentioned um I would propose that we use that balance of 6 698 and put it back to the trails and have that number of that I can't see on my screen on the right hand column there that was reduced raise it back up by 6 698 uh so you have 8 000 and something I forget what I can't see it on my screen uh all right was 100 was reduced to 80 right so I would propose we add 6 698 to the 80 uh thank you there you go that that would be proposal and then I have a comment about something else but I'll hold till the end on that one okay um Matt yeah I agree with Tim I would like to see it added to the the trails there's a lot of outstanding work and even 100 000 is not going to fulfill everything or even half of what is out there to be done so yeah I'm happy to to recommend putting the 6 698 toward the trails okay uh Michelle I also agree I mean um yeah 100 000 can't fix everything but 6000 can actually do something for a single trail so I think it's a valuable use of money does any committee member wish to do something different with the $6 698 uh than to recommend it for use with the trails I'm not seeing any hands from committee members uh I do see a hand from Dave Sonak Dave would you like to comment on our discussion here my only suggestion might be it's a rather odd number does it make sense to just kind of round it down or um it just um it just kind of begs the question why that number and this has to go through various iterations of your report into the town council so I just wondered whether you kind of round if you're going to recommend it that you round these are Pat Layton in physics in high school with significant digits uh I agree with you the question is making a little cleaner what might that amount be we could go 6000 6500 anyone have a suggestion there Tim uh 6000 going once um works for me uh thank you Dave and Tim uh Doug um well I guess the other number that jumps out as being an irregular number is the 182 911 and we have a pretty good justification for that since that's the proposal so you know if we have a few hundred dollars left to if we have what 89 dollars left to left over we could round that up to 183 if we wanted but I'm not it's fine with me the way it is what we did with that number is they asked for 177 911 which I agree with you was an odd an odd uh rounding for something such as this and we uh added a flat 5000 which may or may not uh be in excess or sufficient for the hpr I happen to be someone who was raising the discussion of additional funds for the land church for contingencies although I don't know that 198 would be a huge difference you know or 89 dollars in this case which would make it 178 well even though I was one that argued we should not allocate money for a contingency that they didn't ask for you know that did come to mind this evening as if there was if we had money left over and they get to the point where they have gotten themselves in a hole would we be willing to bail them out and is that you know should we hold money for that so just a thought any other no objection to where the conversation was heading any comments from other committee members on uh the Zion church request again uh sorry to make another comment but I don't feel comfortable that I think we should go with the proposal as submitted I think that does sets a poor precedent for us to make some assumptions that we don't think their numbers have enough in them and so on I just don't feel comfortable in doing that so I'd stick with the numbers we have any other committee members comments on this uh subject I see a hand raised matt I agree with him okay all right so uh holly are you able to maybe you're showing it now and it's my screen I'm trying to see the spreadsheet uh there we go so can you have you made the edits in terms of what we suggested here it looks like it um so I did excuse me I did update the softball one back to the original and so you went to go to I just don't know exactly what figure you decided on 86,000 yes okay which brings us to a small surplus is that correct okay all right $698 so from where I'm sitting I think we've done a good job of discussing areas of of potential concern or or discussions and we had a different process in terms of ordering how we got to where we are here um I would like to just quickly name each proposal to see if there's anything that any committee member wishes to say regarding them that is to say do they wish to change any of the numbers that exist in column k and if they have any comment uh I believe we could do that fairly quickly not every member would need to speak but I'd like to give the members the opportunity since we didn't go project by project at this point to say anything that they wish on those proposals and the dollar amounts that are listed so um that's what I would like to do at this point I do see one hand raise I'm not sure whose hand it is uh Tim yeah that was that was mine but if you want to go down through each project that's fine I had a completely different thought that I wanted to raise at some point it's hard to tell here's my thought and you can make a decision where they want to go through I have some uncomfortableness with a not budgeting any reserves going forward now and b I have some concern with the housing proposal I think again they were very generous in reducing those so here's my proposal my proposal is to not fund the cemeteries I would say the hundred thousand should be zero and I would put a hundred thousand in reserves which would allow us next cycle should the housing program have the needs that they think they might but we're giving them a little less money for they could come to us and ask that we use the reserves for that if at that point and they don't come back and we're good regarding housing we can ask the town to come back to us to see if we would use those reserves to do the cemetery project but by committing to the cemetery project now it gives us no flexibility and that's my proposal thank you Tim Robin um yeah sorry I have a little bit of a cold I would inject that on the basis that in our view already we've talked about the urgency for that particular project and the challenge and getting consultants committed to the work so I would I would not be in favor of that thank you Robin uh does anyone else have a comment at the moment in response to Tim's comment relating to the proposal or suggestion that we consider using funds that might be used for the cemeteries and instead using them for one of the two housing proposals uh Katie oh thank you I I didn't see the order forgive me I just looked up and I saw three I think I think Doug and Matt were ahead of me oh they're not now okay great you're the chair you get to decide um I um I really I applaud Tim's creative thinking and I actually would like to agree Tim with you however um because I like that idea gives a lot of flexibility etc but it feels very arbitrary to pick the cemeteries versus anything else like I'm thinking what about that 750 for war memorial because we don't know about which grant we might get might not get and so that I don't feel great about moving forward with that kind of idea and just selecting one project over another that the town is you know it just that does that feels a little arbitrary and not as well informed and um maybe something we can consider as a method for doing things like this in the future um because it is creative and it does give flexibility thank you Katie Matt uh in this case I'm gonna agree with Robin I think we should just continue with the cemetery and then deal with next year next year thank you Matt uh Doug as the only person who gave the cemetery project of five out of the gate I'm I'm also going to uh say I support keeping the 100 000 with the cemetery project do other committee members have comments uh as a follow-up to Tim's suggestion please raise your hand I can't see everybody but if you raise your hand on your screen I can see you not seeing any hands from committee members on this subject uh I do see a hand from Dave Zomac Dave I'd like to call on you if you're uh have something you'd like to uh say yeah I'd just like to add Sam um you know first I I wanted to acknowledge that you know Nate Malloy who who works with me um and Holly and others got together you know with the Affordable Housing Trust and I can't speak for them but you know we we wrestled long and hard with with coming to you with these compromises and you know I for one feel very strongly like you know we we came to you all in good faith we we strongly considered those and we feel pretty good about them there's always you know we have a housing crisis in the region we know that there's there's tremendous need but I was just doing some quick math so and again I'm not speaking for the trust but the trust is part of the town so their current balance is about two hundred thousand dollars if the town council votes on this recommendation that's an additional three hundred thousand dollars so they'll have five hundred thousand dollars the town if if you move forward with this would have an additional hundred and twenty five thousand dollars so that's six hundred and twenty five thousand dollars that would really be available July 1st or an urgent project that may come up um now that's notwithstanding the fact that the town through CPA ARPA and perhaps other sources has already very generously supported the Valley CDC project for homeownership on Ball Lane and the Wayfinders project at E Street School in Belcher Town Road our hope I can tell you from the town is that Wayfinders and Valley CDC do not come back to us for additional funds we've we've really invested quite generously in both those projects I also would add that the town also has some ARPA funds that we need to spend on affordable housing so not to say we're flush we are not but I think between the town and the trust we will have if this proposal moves forward at three hundred and one twenty five we'll have six hundred and twenty five thousand dollars at our disposal collectively to address you know needs but also to be proactive if if we seek for instance to you know look at another property that might be conducive to affordable housing so I just wanted to put that out there I I too strongly support the cemetery work I think we're simply getting more behind on repairing these historic stones in both South and North Cemetery thank you Dave I would add having walked through the South and North cemeteries regularly having family members reside there I see all the other older stones I don't see the ones in the North Amherst cemetery but there's a lot of damaged stones there and it's you know they're old so they're not as sturdy as they might be so I do see the need certainly in the South cemetery from my perspective Tim well you convinced me that that's fine I just wanted to raise the question and the question was well discussed I did have a question though about the number Dave you said and I think Holly said or somebody said 125 for the town it's 150 unless I'm reading it right a wrong correct it's now the new numbers are 300 for the trust and 150 for the town not 125 correct sorry Tim yeah I lost 25,000 we're there we took out 125 so okay good all right so those are the numbers that's that's why Holly keeps track of the numbers okay good so we have a little more than we thought which is great so I feel comfortable based on those comments that we're supporting housing which I think is I agree is one of the this top priority of the town so good that's fine with me so I withdraw my suggestion uh about reserves thank you Tim and thank you for raising the subject that's what we do we we talk about things and it's good to have discussions related to them David uh William yes I don't know whether you can see me but can you hear me but I can I can hear you and I don't know if you have the capacity to raise your hand or not but please speak up as you're doing yes on the cemeteries I support 100 of the proposal that we had and when I I see the north cemetery every day and the north cemetery will not survive another one to two years waiting on funding uh the uh I don't know about the stones I don't the headstones and all of that but I know the fence that's around the cemetery is falling apart and it needs attention immediately so I think that the funds that we have therefore the two cemeteries ought to move forward thank you David uh Robin um yeah I was just going to suggest that um you had called for a project by project yeah all the comments um if if and when we moved to that that we just if there's no commentary that we just moved to a vote on those items thank you streamline things that's all Michelle I'm I'm trying to look did do we remove the fencing from the cemetery cost we did the the town came back as a part of their proposal and indicated that uh they would work internally and Alan slow Alan Snow would attempt to manage his staff to make progress starting with the most urgent needs on the fences that's my recollection so thank you um I don't think we need to talk further on the cemetery I do wish to provide committee members if they wish the opportunity to speak on any particular proposal uh we we do have the funds that indicate where we are um so I guess I guess a way of phrasing it does anyone have any issue or anything they'd like to say uh and Robin your suggestion is is a reasonable one I believe um um as I'll do this in two ways does anyone have a problem with the current slate of uh financial numbers in column k for any of the projects do any of the project numbers that are listed uh have present an issue for any of the committee members Tim I cannot see the numbers in column k there now I can see the numbers in column k so again does any committee member have an issue with the numbers in column k and those reflect the edits that have been occurring based upon our discussions uh I'm not seeing any hands raised I'll scroll through our group great thank you so now that it seems there's no issues I just want to give committee members an opportunity to make a comment uh if they wish on any particular proposal so I'm not going to call committee member to committee member does anyone wish to add anything to our discussion that has occurred today regarding the affordable housing trust funds we will vote afterwards on each project as we proceed okay does anyone wish to have any comment to say regarding the affordable housing development funds uh we're recommending 150,000 currently not seeing any hands if you wish to say something please speak up does anyone wish to say anything further from what we've been talking about regarding the local historic does anyone wish to say anything regarding the accessibility and existing conditions studied for the Amherst Historical Society does anyone wish to say anything or add anything to what we've already discussed regarding the Zion church I'll make a comment on this one I think that this church is in dire need of work and I'm glad that the applicants persevered and I'm glad and I'd like to thank the town staff Nate Malloy Dave Zomac and others for being flexible in seeking to assist the applicant to the extent that they made themselves available and I hope that the project is able to come within its budget and if not a as a member of the committee it would be difficult to see it not be able to go forward for small lacking small amounts of funds if their their estimates don't turn out properly we'll see how it goes but I'm certainly this is a project that was in my mind wrestling with our tabling of it last year so that's my comment on this project thank you to the town staff and congratulations at least in a perseverance manner for the applicants does anyone wish to say anything further on the town of Amherst restoration Tim I see your hand is raised yeah sorry I will make a comment about the Zion church this is me speaking I think we are approving funds to renovate an historic structure that's currently called the Zion church but it's really the Amherst north church or whatever the proper term is I just maybe we want to just raise the question of taking out the Zion that's the applicant but the structure is the Amherst north church and that's what we're doing that's a small maybe semantic comment but it speaks to our committee's understanding and belief that we ought to restore for historic purpose that structure not necessarily give money to the Zion church if you and I don't know how to do that but that would be one suggestion retitle that request to Amherst north church the applicant being the Zion whatever a valid and good point I recall you doing that last year as well and I agreed with it at that time also Robin uh very quick suggestion just put slash north Amherst congregational church that is the historic name recorded in the macros inventory so Amherst Zion church it goes by both names it will eventually Amherst Zion church will be historic name so I wouldn't recommend removing it just put a slash in there and north Amherst congregational church north Amherst congregational church did you say that's correct thank you um does anyone wish to make a comment on the north or south cemeteries uh in addition to what we have already talked about is your hand still raised Robin related to this nope okay does anyone wish to make a comment regarding the mill river history before we do that I see Michelle's hand is raised oh I had a comment on that one oh very good Michelle okay um I'm not sure where to place this comment because this is a sort of a three-part cpa funding project that we've already funded the first phase and then the third phase will be the signage and I just want to again bring up the concern that this is a historic project on conservation land so the conservation department will be responsible for the long-term maintenance of the signs yet cpa funding or cpa funding can't be used to maintain those signs so that's going to be in house funds and also I haven't really heard um actual interest in including any conservation content in the signs and then just you know as Tim said he was coming from himself and it's not just me but when we put signs in previous like natural viewscapes natural landscapes which I put on par with historic landscapes some people have taken issue with that because what has started as a natural river walk is now something with in a built environment and signs can be developed in certain ways to not be intrusive to that but I just want to point out that um I want this going forward to meld as as smoothly as possible with the interest of conservation lands and in the future maybe that the maintenance of these projects these signs which maybe 10 years from now could come from future historic cpa funding that's it thank you Michelle does anyone else have a comment on this project I have one I'd like to express admiration for the community roots and efforts from volunteers in seeking to put forth the project from the you know with great involvement from community members and this is they've been doing so pushing forward to try to make progress on this for a number of years now and I also believe that they uh based on their volunteer work and efforts are present applications that reflect a very frugal mindset which I find impressive that's my comment does anyone have a comment that they would like to make on the historic house move which we've already spoken of uh Michelle I see your hand is raised is that still up that's a previous one okay anyone else okay does anyone wish to make any further comment on pickleball courts which has been withdrawn I'll comment that we hope I would like to see the town in the future continue their efforts in identifying a location based upon the strong interest that we've heard on two different years from community members for pickleball in Amherst in some location does anyone wish to comment further or anew on the Mill River tennis court rehabilitation does anyone wish to comment further on the rehabilitation of softball facilities does anyone wish to comment on the revitalization of the war memorial pool area I'll comment that I think it's a very important location for the town and you know kudos to the town staff for seeking to leverage funds via grant options does anyone wish to comment further on the town of Amherst trail restoration and enhancement proposal okay so we've got lots of proposals here I believe we've discussed them all thoroughly I do wish to call for a roll call vote on each one in case anyone the town council has to look at each one the first proposal I believe we're at a point where we can vote on these uh projects and recommended funds would anyone like to make a motion on the Sam you have hands up hands up let me look Doug and then Doug Marshall yeah I'm I'm sorry Sam but I realized there was one comment I wanted to make about the East Amherst local historic district yes and that is that I am supportive of the scope that's contained in this proposal to do the research for the properties in that area but my support for the research should not be automatically assumed to extend to the creation of another local historic district in town I think uh from a planning board point of view we may want to just have a wider discussion in town about just how much of the town we want to have under that designation so thank you thank you Sam I'm sorry I came out of order no no apologies it's it's good to hear from everyone not Tim uh this is a small maybe picky point but you said the real bitch excuse me the revitalization of the war memorial pool area the phrase on this spreadsheet says the revitalization of the war memorial area I don't know frankly I don't know if there's another war memorial area or whether this we should just add the word pool in there to be more clear but maybe I'm just picky but I don't know uh my comment stands uh but your point is well taken regarding when we vote uh and it might be helpful if uh you know if one of us or whoever makes a motion can actually look at the names of the um actual applications uh holly do you happen to know if the items that are listed in column D reflect the actual name of the proposal applications the applicants they're not verbatim they're not word for word what was actually submitted some of the project titles I just shortened for convenience sakes but if you'd like I can um put them to exactly what they put in that field if you wish well we could either do that or we could reference as we proceed with voting the proposal number um uh I think from my perspective I believe we're apt to be fine given the intent of what we've discussed we've been discussing but I would given the significance of votes like to uh hear from any committee members on on this Tim oh sorry my hand was still up but yeah I just didn't know frankly if there's another area in town that's a war memorial and whether we would be more specific by adding the word pool that was my only comment and I don't recall what the official application title was but I just raised it before we moved on okay well when we submit the report to town council which holly and I work on we can list the uh phrase of what we're voting on correctly um Katie well you just said what I was going to recommend I think we've got the proposal numbers are we know which we know what these proposals are what they relate to so I feel very comfortable just voting as is and holly not having to do anything else because I know in the final report it will be accurate thank you Katie uh I see Dave lowered his hand so uh I'd like to say I'm sorry if I could just jump in this really was the war memorial pool area so I just I do think it's kind of important this spreadsheet will live on in the record so we all may knew that but the war memorial is outside the pool area so we're not proposing to spend $750,000 on the war memorial per se it's the pool will house pool area so anyway uh I know it'll be clarified in your report but now let's do that colleague and make that out of a word and Tim thank you for raising the topic well we'll I mean again we'll just have to discuss it because the the I mean the the project titles that they give are slightly different than what I gave but it says revitalization of enhanced war memorial area so but again it will we'll figure that out when we do our final report to town council should we on the spreadsheet if it lives into eternity have war memorial pool area or war memorial area oh I said it we're going to put the word in there sorry we'll put it afterwards okay so um thank you Holly and others I'd like to go project proposal by proposal uh and if a committee member would like to make a motion relating to that proposal uh that would be great the administration funds there's no proposal nothing for us to do proposal number one the bare day field station educational center was not eligible so we didn't deliberate on that one so proposal number two is the amherst municipal affordable housing trust development funds with column k indicates three hundred thousand dollars would any committee member wish to uh make a motion so moved uh and the move is to oh approve 300 000 for proposal number two command 300 000 second uh who's the second Doug Marshall Doug Marshall we have a motion we have a second is there any discussion I see no hands for discussion I'd like to call for a roll call vote uh and the again this is to recommend 300 000 for the amherst amherst municipal affordable housing trust development funds I'll call on members uh please indicate your votes uh Matt hi Robin hi Michelle your hand is raised Michelle um um we're not hearing you uh where is Michelle maybe she left the audience got moved into the attendees she's not a panelist anymore let's see if we can move Michelle back into our group we should be coming thank you for raising your hand Michelle Michelle is she back thank you I'm back I I'm an I yet okay and I'm an I as well uh Doug hi Tim hi Bob hi David and Katie hi the motion passes nine in favor and uh zero abstain and zero zero nays so it's nine to zero if I added correctly as opposed to eight the next project is the town of Amherst affordable housing development funds uh our committee has uh arrived at a consensus dollar amount after hearing from the town in the amount of 150 000 would any committee member wish to make a motion motion to approve 150 000 for the town of Amherst affordable housing development funds is there a second I'll second that was that you Katie yes is there a uh any discussion let's see no hands for discussion I'd like to proceed to a roll call vote uh Matt hi Robin hi Michelle hi I will vote I uh Doug hi Tim hi Bob hi David I'm sorry David could you say that again having a hard time hearing you uh Katie hi hi okay next proposal project number four proposal number four is the east Amherst local historic district a request of 20 000 funds and a consensus amount of 20 000 as well would anyone wish to make a motion on this proposal to approve the 20 000 for the east Amherst local historical district is there a second second I believe that was Robin so we have a motion and a second any discussion no discussion that I see I'd like to proceed to a roll call vote this is to award 20 000 recommend awarding 20 000 for the east Amherst local historic district I'm Matt hi Robin hi Michelle hi I will say I Doug hi Tim hi Bob hi David can't hear you David it's it's muted okay let's see if we can unmute David so yeah yeah we can hear you now David okay all right so we're asking for your vote hi hi okay uh Katie hi the motion passes nine to zero as did the town of Amherst affordable housing development funds nine to zero no extensions the next proposal number five is the Amherst historic society accessibility and existing conditions study requested amount of consensus amount of 74 350 would anyone like to make a motion motion to uh approve 74 350 dollars for the Amherst historical society accessibility and the state condition study is there a second second I believe Katie was first on that uh any discussion I don't see any hands raised for discussion I'll proceed to a vote Matt hi Robin hi Michelle hi I will vote I uh Doug hi Tim hi Bob hi David hi uh Katie hi motion passes nine in favor zero against and zero extensions the next proposal is the Amherst Zion uh church north Amherst congregational church uh proposal request of $177 911 are recommended amount of $182,911 would anyone like to make a proposal motion on this excuse me I I move $182,911 in support of the Amherst Zion north Amherst congregational church project second I'd like to um make you know open it for discussion first anyone like to make a discussion I have a comment I'd like to amend the motion to reference that five thousand of the award uh is specifically to be used for HPR uh historic preservation restrictions so moved that was Robin second second by David Williams I believe yes so uh any discussion I see Tim your hand is raised I was going to do the same thing so immature amount okay is there any further discussion on the amendment I'd like to vote on the amendment which is to uh reference the five thousand dollars is specific to and only for the uh HP use for the HPR restriction the historic preservation restriction I'd like to call for a roll call vote on that amended motion uh Matt hi Robin hi Michelle hi I will vote I Doug hi Tim hi Bob is Bob with us hi I'm seeing a sign on my screen about stop sharing screen uh David David can you speak up yes I thank you uh Katie hi Michelle did I call on you yeah I just had a question about um how to record that the vote so it was motioned by Katie and then you amended and then we and then we voted on your amendment and it was the amendment was seconded by Dave I said the amended motion was seconded by Dave and we've all voted aye is that how to record it anyone got that one made the motion was then discussed when an amendment was proposed the amendment had a second and we voted on the amendment to the motion which passed nine to zero we then just now completed a vote on the amended motion so we first voted on the amendment and then we voted on the amended motion includes second to somebody second the amendment or what a day of second okay and then who seconded the the amended motion I moved I moved for the amendment and then I think we just vote on the entire motion as amended I believe we might have to look at the okay get that accurate sorry Michelle all right got it but they both passed nine to zero and Robin's indicating she voted on the amended motion we'll see sorry about that but it did pass nine to zero uh Doug Marsh Doug yeah I I I guess I want to disagree with that we voted had two separate votes one and first on the amendment and then on the amended motion uh we had two sets of motions and two sets of seconds but we only had one vote on the amended motion we did not have a vote on the amendment in by itself you do not have to agree okay uh I'm not sure what transpired but if I understand correctly we approved the final motion that included the amendment is that right thank you Doug uh if there's an error in how we did it let let us know I follow you said it went well no no you're all set when you when you when you first spoke you said we voted on the original and then voted on the amendment we only voted on the amended it was it was I missed both and seconded there was discussion it was amended and then there was one vote it's so we are all set thank you it was just the way it is just the way it was explained originally was slightly confusing but we're we're good okay thank you for getting there our intent is certainly clear um the next proposal number seven is the town of Amherst restoration of the north and south cemeteries originally requested 150,000 the town came back with uh revised proposal for 100,000 removing the fence uh the request of recommended consensus for 100,000 would anyone wish to make a motion motion to oh okay motion to 100,000 town of Amherst restoration of north and south cemeteries okay uh robin you're making a motion is there a second second bob second any discussion uh like to vote on the motion which is to uh recommend 100,000 for the town of Amherst north and south cemeteries uh roll call vote matt i robin hi michelle hi i will vote i uh dug hi tim all right bob hi david i'm sorry i couldn't hear you uh david i'm not able to hear david's vote is can anyone else hear him i heard him say i uh michelle heard it okay very good uh katie i the vote passes nine to zero the next proposal is the mill river historic trail uh request and recommended amount of 46,875 would anyone wish to make a motion i'll make a motion that we uh approve recommendation of uh 46,875 dollars for the mill river historic trail proposal that would be robin a second uh any discussion i'm not seeing any discussion i'd like to proceed to a roll call vote uh matt i robin hi i'll say i uh dug hi tim i bob i david not hearing you david uh is david in our meeting is he on mute for a moment david we can't hear you for some reason i believe we have to have a roll call vote don't we folly yes yes we do um what do we do looks like he's muted now does it hi very good thank you david i'm not sure what transpired we can hear you loud and clear right right now so uh katie hi the motion passes nine to zero the next uh uh project is the historic house move project proposal number nine did we uh did we vote on this yet i don't believe we did um would anyone like to make a motion on the historic house move or do we need to i assume we need to since the app i move i move that we not recommend any dollars for this proposal is there a second that was who tim and who seconded it robin robin we have a motion and we have a second is there any discussion so you know hands raised i'd like to proceed to a vote uh this is to not recommend funding the historic house move that is to say uh not recommending any dollars for it matt hi robin hi um i'm gonna go out of order here tim your hand is raised i'll call on you yes because i think it's misleading to have yeses in those columns we should have noes i'm not sure my motion was to deny it and we are saying i to my motion but technically we are not approving it so we should have an n for no rather than a y for yes not on how you know what i mean it's i understand the semantics Doug marshal yeah i'd i'd like to suggest that the motion be that we we expend zero dollars on the historic house move which is what we show in column k just like all the other numbers so you wish to make that is what the motion was yeah well that's what the motion was but however we reflect it is the motion was to recommend no dollars for the historic house move correct right that's what the motion was so do we agree that we wish to recommend no dollars for the historic house move is the vote um sam yes katie katie i mean if there's zero tim in that instead of a dash would that help with having the y because we are in agreement i guess so yeah i just just to reflect yeah you know i mean it's um sure i mean we are approving zero holly are you able to put the letter zero capitalized and column k such that it will display because the zero won't display what a capital use that cut like a um apostrophe and then write the zero holly there yeah that can suffice uh so we're in mid vote and tim i believe that uh you phrased it correctly and we are voting to agree on this motion to recommend zero dollars for this proposal right we've done so matt robin michelle i will vote yes as well that is to say i agree to not recommend that we don't recommend any dollars for this proposal uh doug hi tim yes and and by the way holly i i wouldn't put a zero in the pickle call cards because that was withdrawn so it dashed us like the administration um bob that's speaking ahead of my myself here but i'm just looking at the space uh let's finish hi bob says i uh david williams can't hear you david is muted okay how do we unmute david he's now unmuted david williams holly are you able to unmute thank you if you can if there's a way for you to keep your uh yourself unmuted that would be beneficial it seems to have muted itself again right after you spoke david so uh david votes aye katie aye so the vote passes i believe nine to zero i just wanted to verify because i didn't everybody was an i correct correct yes because i so the next was a withdrawn proposal as tim has referenced which is the koanis pickleball court so there's no vote required uh proposal number 11 is for the town of amherst mill river tennis court rehabilitation requested 60 000 uh discussion consensus 60 000 would anyone like to make a motion on the mill river tennis court rehabilitation to uh move to approve the 60 000 for the mill river tennis court rehab i'll second that thank you is there any discussion okay no discussion i'd like to proceed to a roll call vote uh would any the motion is to recommend 60 000 to vote to recommend 60 000 for the mill river tennis court rehabilitation matt i robin hi michelle hi i will vote i uh doug hi tim i um bob i uh david williams david williams you seem to be muted i'm not sure what's occurring rob holly do you have the capacity to unmute um david david williams is that an aye yeah thank you uh sorry uh katie aye the motion passes nine in favor zero nose and zero abstentions next proposal is request for 85 000 proposal number 12 for the town of amherst rehabilitation of softball facilities consensus amount of 85 000 dollars would anyone wish to make a motion on this i approve 85 000 for softball uh you move to approve 85 000 for softball is there a second second i'll second um i totally got that second that would be michelle uh any discussion oh good like a true softball player can we add michelle's i totally got that second uh let's proceed to her vote matt i robin hi michelle hi i will vote i doug hi tim i bob hi david williams aye thank you uh katie aye the motion passes nine in favor zero against zero abstains next proposal is for the town of amherst revitalization of enhanced war memorial area or pool area uh requested amount of 750 000 recommend uh consensus discussion amount of 750 000 would anyone wish to make a motion on this move to approve 750 000 dollars for the war memorial area pool restoration i really wanted to get that one in there thank you second second robin uh is there any discussion okay no discussion uh like to proceed to a roll call vote uh again we're voting on the motion to approve to recommend uh approving 750 000 for the revitalization of the enhanced war memorial pool area uh matt hi robin hi michelle hi i will vote i doug hi tim hi bob hi david williams hi thank you uh katie hi motion passes nine to zero zero abstentions uh next proposal is the town of amherst trail restoration and and enhancement uh requested funds of 100 000 uh consensus after discussions after the town came back to us uh 86 000 would anyone like to make a motion on this proposal i move to recommend 86 000 for the town of amherst trail restoration enhancement is there a second second uh was that uh david williams or doug marshall who second that was doug okay uh any discussion no further discussion i'd like to proceed to a roll call vote uh again the motion is to recommend 86 000 for the town of amherst trail restoration enhancement proposal number 14 uh matt hi robin hi michelle hi i will vote i uh doug hi tim hi bob hi david williams david yes hi hi hi thank you thank you uh katie hi motion passes nine in favor zero uh oppose zero abstentions um i believe we've proceeded through all of our votes a holly do we need to make a further motion regarding the uh cash reserves i believe we voted to recommend that they get used towards fiscal year 2025 at our previous meeting that is correct but you do have to vote on your debt so you have to vote to approve the debt payments uh for fy 25 in the amount of the 520 250 so we can have a single vote for that yes okay before i do that tim i see that your hand is raised yes uh since we are feeling and i agree with this that the spreadsheet will live in our records i like the use of the column a o where we see project number 10 was withdrawn i would propose we put a note under project nine uh that says project uh not approved or something just so we're clear and up on administration i'm not sure if we withdrew that or whether we just elected to uh not fund administration this year it wasn't a proposal it's not a oh it's not so it's it was all right so it was a discussion did we or don't we but there was no uh there was no actual request i don't believe holly was there a request for 10 000 from the town oh okay well you could write reduced to zero uh okay thank you uh recommended zero does what holly wrote in here suffice from your perspective tim i can't read column a o anymore because of our pictures what it says in column for row number not project nine it says recommended zero dollars i can now i can read it thank you okay very good any other hand so um we need to vote on the debt authorization holly can you show the full set of debt authorization again please which would be uh we see the total but can you show the individual amounts again so that we can see them okay so there are six components that uh total five hundred and twenty thousand two hundred and fifty dollars uh the proposals that have debt that we would be voting on which is necessary is the belch town road property the rolling green and i think rolling green is 10 of 10 isn't that is that where that is holly is this our last can't see column d if you can enlarge it yes it's 10 of 10 uh kendrick park for a five valley cdc housing uh two of ten track and field the first payment jones library the first payment and fort river school uh there's no uh debt at this point that will commence in the future so the total debt authorization is required to meet our burden would be five hundred and twenty thousand two hundred and fifty dollars would anyone like to make a motion so moved we have a motion five hundred twenty thousand two hundred and fifty dollars in payment of debt yeah we have a motion of to pay uh recommend payment of debt of five hundred and twenty thousand two hundred and fifty dollars is there a second i'll second that But we have a second. Is there any discussion? I'm seeing no discussion. I'd like to proceed to a roll call vote. Again, the motion is to recommend the. Payment of $520,250. Towards debt. Or whatever the word would be. Matt. Hi, Robin. Hi, Michelle. Hi. I will vote. I Doug. Hi. Tim. Hi. Bob. Hi. David Williams. Katie. Hi. The motion passes nine to zero. Probably are you aware of any other funding. Votes that we need to take in regard to the current. Applications. No. So I believe we proceeded through all of our. Proposals. With. Good discussion and with assistance. And I guess. Internal collaboration from the town of Amherst. Tim, I see your hand is raised. Yeah. Holly, can you scroll up to see what our changes there? I was just talking about, I was just talking about six hundred and something left. Is that right? Six hundred and ninety eight. Rather than just have that hang there. I would propose that we vote to move that six ninety eight into fiscal twenty six. No fiscal twenty five reserves. Right. With that. Is that apt to, does that need to get voted on? It goes over automatically that's fine with me, but I didn't know if we needed to do something. Okay, so if you vote it as a budgeted reserve, then it would, you would have the capacity to go back to town council and request a project for $698. If you do nothing with it, it's just going to roll over into the available balance in FY26. Okay. 25 projects the only the only the way you would need to vote on it is if you thought you may wish to spend it in FY25. We, I do expect that we will meet again as a committee before the summer. So we will have an opportunity if there's a need to utilize it to make that vote. Michelle. I was just wondering, I guess I missed that we weren't using any admin cost, because Holly had said that there was some significant cost just associated with advertising the meetings. Is this something that could cover that or was there already discussion about some other pod that that was coming out of. We do have an existing balance in our administrative budget that's significant that can be used for that currently is that correct Holly. So we do have the capacity to meet our current and a few subsequent years of administrative budget at present. So we've, we've successfully discussed and deliberated and received public input on all of the proposals before us. The town has considered the financial situation and internally collaborated to identify a reasonable path forward from their perspective and we have. I believe. Arrived at a. A good outcome from my perspective on all the proposals in front of us. I do wish to thank all of our committee members as well as all the applicants and town staff. For all their efforts to get us to this point and and Holly, thank you for this evening in particular, but certainly for all you've done to this point to get us here. I do have, I believe we've completed the agenda item of continue to discuss and vote on recommendations to town council. I do have a topic that I did not reasonably anticipate 48 hours. I just want to raise this. I mentioned this in an email at one point. We had significant discussions over the last year and a half over having information available to the community. And I know that we had a lot of discussion about this during our deliberation cycle regarding applying for funds. And I know that the apply for funds. Section category on the website was supplanted by the fiscal year 2025 proposals. We were able to make that available again for the community. The apply funds apply for funds would be a category that would appear above the fiscal year 2025 proposals and would lead to a page that had lots of information. Now I don't know if that is saved anywhere on the town sites or not. I do know that we can replicate it from the previous meetings because I was displaying it and I could provide that content to town staff and to the IT department through you and you and Dave. It is something that I as chair would have a strong desire to have put back on the website. We spent quite a lot of thought through the years in arriving at that set of information. So I guess my question would be, I guess to you Holly, what, what would be required from our committee to enable that to occur. Well, I'll just have to work with it to get it back. I'm not 100% sure how or if it's saved somewhere or not. But certainly, if you have the information that goes there, let me just let me check with it. It is something that we can certainly take care of getting put back in. I can generate that information if needed. If it exists somewhere. I'd rather not have to. Well, so I'm going to pray for that. But it's important, I believe for a committee and, you know, I guess the question would be, what would be a reasonable timeframe I realize it's the holidays right now. And there's all sorts of activity but do you think it's within reason that we could get that up. Prior to the end of February. Absolutely. Yeah, I could, I can likely get it. If it, if it needs to be recreated, then it may take to the end of January, but if it's something that they can just find in an archive somewhere and get back up, it could probably be taken care of, you know, the week after New Year's. So we can get to that point the next stage from our committee standpoint, or at least from our output for we need to have a report that goes to the town finance committee, which considers it and then makes their recommendations to town council in the New Year's Holly. And last year I worked with Sonya. I generated the descriptions, which I've been working on and she created the financial aspect I guess you and I should communicate at a later time regarding that to generate a report similar to last year. I do work in particular for you and or your staff. I'm always quite impressed with the reports that the town financial staff has been able to generate. There's so much information in there, but it's something we need to do I will commit to generating the descriptions and working with you to get them. And that's the, that would be the last output item. So our interest as a committee to meet some time in the New Year, where we could both talk about this year's deliberations and if there's recommendations in terms of what we might want to do with our application processes. Or if we wish to have some other form of outreach, but that can be communicated to our members at a later point in time. I realize it's four days before the 25th of December. It's Thursday on a holiday week and we started late, but I did want to update the committee on my general thought processes on where we might go from here so we won't meet again in the near term. I'll communicate as we go forward with committee members if if there's an action item to discuss, but that would be my general intent to have another meeting sometime in the New Year. In January, where we could just have a follow up to talk about such as what we did last May, where one of the agenda items we talked about the application process. Anyway, so I don't have any further additional items on the agenda that have not been reasonably anticipated. I'd like to ask the committee members, if they have something they'd like to say. Tim, I see your hand is raised. Yes, I'm just going to read it. Holly, can you send us a copy of the spreadsheet that's right in front of us now. Sure, absolutely. Great, because we aren't going to meet for a while and it might be nice to have that as a record. Thank you. And we do that reminds me Tim we do also have at least one set of draft minutes we may have a few others, which we would send out at some point in time. Any other comments at this time from any committee members. Happy holidays. Happy holidays to everyone. Thank you all so much. I think this has gone well this year given the task that and I for one greatly appreciate the suggestions and discussing items from all the committee members regardless of whether we voted or not I'm impressed with the discussion that our members provide and the thoroughness of discussion for all of the issues and I'd certainly like to thank the town staff from my perspective. This is the start of well ongoing but Holly's had an extremely busy time period from my perspective over the last. When did Sonya leave last January or so. And Sean left in August. It's like, okay. Let's do what you've been doing along with two other things on top of it. So I'd like to thank you again Holly for supporting our committee to this point in time and going forward and thank you Dave as well for Dave's own back for assisting with many of the town interactions and thought discussions that Sean also persisted in last year. Thank you to all happy holidays and I will call the meeting adjourned at 903 p.m. Good evening everyone. Thank you Sam. Great job Sam. Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Bye.