 You describe it as fun, right, guys? You'd probably call the movie fun. I would. I had I had a lot of fun watching it. I laughed so goddamn hard at this. Yeah, because, yeah, they try to take a lot of stuff very seriously in this movie that is nonsensical, outright, horrendous, ridiculous. I had a lot of fun. And they try to be a bunch of other superhero movies. They're they're they remake elements of Superman one, Superman two. They bring in all the bad stuff from Spider-Man three, which is a lot. And Spider-Batman returns. Yeah, they even rip off Batman returns, which is a bold move, I would say. Oh, OK. And I don't think you were here when I brought it up. Oh, yeah, yeah, with with, yeah, yeah. Well, when you were watching this, did you get Ghostbusters vibes? Twenty sixteen. Yeah. Yeah, especially with Kristen Wiig there. I think that's exactly. I know I some people in chat were saying they felt it, too. I know I couldn't be the only one. She she does a I don't know if it's improv comedy, but her kind, that kind of comedy where, oh, this is all good. Oh, there you go. Oh, oh, oh, that sort of just like they think it's dialogue, but also funny. Yeah, they do that except with the plot and characters. Yes. And it's like they're juggling. No, it's horrible. It's like, please. I find it unwatchable. All right, so we are live. Everything's good and going. The thumbnail is wrong. I will fix that as we stream. OK, but yeah, I guess I'll do introductions for you, Sargon, as well as people who are just in. So they have no idea who this set of people is. Further, this left is capital opinions, maker of videos that make fun of video assets. I guess it's the best thing I guess. Yeah, well, everyone just say hi as I go through. I guess that makes the most sense. Then there's John. How are you? Hi. I fucked up. No, you're ruining it. Then why? Oh, John, creator of Arby and the Chief, writer, director, producer, actor, musician, all of the things. Producer. Yeah, I write and direct a film about action figures. It's very harsh, but I think it's pretty funny. Then there's me. You probably know who I am at this point. We've talked a few times. We've met a couple of times. Then to my to my right is neurotic. Gary from neurotic. I don't know if you have you guys met before or no. No, I don't think so. I have heard the name I've been mentioned a few times. That's always always positively. Hey, that's even better. Hello, at least talented person here. Greetings, everyone. Hey, the capital opinion is right there. What about people? Yeah, I know. I am clearly the least talented person here. Don't you try to take that title from me? Uh, then rags. Don't know if you've ever met him before. Oh, well, yeah, we've hung out. Oh, neat. OK, we have. Then then this saga saving me and left for dead. Yeah, we still need to play that new update, right? Yeah, I haven't I haven't even tried it yet. And also the people who made it their next game, it's up on it's it's coming. So is it back for blood back for blood? Yeah, it's there. There's it's on steam. It's not released, but the page is on steam now. So hopefully soonish will get some info on that. Very excited. Yes. Then Shadowverse T, who I know you're aware of, you're both aware of each other. Say hello. Hello, hello. Good to be here with Carl and also Nordic and everyone. But now, Carl, we've been we've been messaging and say, well, let's set to place a mountain blade. Yes, tomorrow, in fact, isn't it? All right, I've been. Yeah, I'm very much looking forward to it. It's going to be quite a big gathering, actually. He's going to stream it. And I don't know. I hadn't I hadn't planned to. Wow, lame. Everyone wants to see Shad killing things with you on an online game. Come on. Can we create? Well, maybe, maybe it's it's not just my choice because there are going to be other people in there who might not want to stream. Very well. And then to the right of Shad is Southpaw, maker of a video that says Spider-Man 2 is not very good. Yes, and that's controversial. Oh, yes. Oh, I know it's I know it's controversial. It is. Yes. We are talking about really. Spider-Man 2, right? Yeah, yep. Oh, man. Here we go. Let it commence. You've got to watch my video personally attacked. I did a problem is that he says that as a joke, but a lot of people say that seriously. Oh, yes. I'm just covering them with a mask of humor. And I love that movie. I know it's got some problems, but like, I don't know. Oh, hey, man. You know, I'm curious to see what your criticisms are. Yeah. Obviously, in Southpaw and solid stuff, actually, I got really pretty good. Shattavosity approval too. Who will be? Yeah, that's Fringy, Rags, Jay, Crittle, Drinker, you, Muller, and now Shattiversity. Sweet. Fine, fine video. Collecting the infinity creators on your gauntlet there. It was a proof. Absolutely. Listen, listen, I like that movie too. I'm going through some complicated feelings about it now because of all the crazier fences that I've been dealing with being frequently straw manned and misrepresented by the people that simp for that movie isn't very fun. None of us would know what that's like. We're very unaware. Yeah, this isn't a crew. Yeah, what do you mean? What's that? I hope that never happens to us. Yeah. And I just want to say I forgive you chat for how you reacted to me dropping that take on 112. Don't worry. Don't worry. No, I know that seemed like I was bitter when I dropped that little bit where I've got bully McGuire, you know, thrusting his hips as a chat goes by reacting to my take that Spider-Man 2 is not very good, but you are forgiven. Oh, and to the right of South 4 is weekend warrior. He's he makes video reviews. He has like a little little cartoon man to represent him. He's he's pretty sure dude. I'm assuming you guys have met before. Now you have to you have to kiss the name rings bells. Actually, yes, I probably want to be below. No. Can you hear? Hello. Hello. Hello. Hi. And yeah, so if you can just go ahead and get the stream up so you can see what I'm going to show you now. And what we're going to do is play a little game. You have to ignore chat because they will give you the answers. You can't you can't cheat. Yeah. So we're watching going through the Wonder Woman. And if you've seen some some reviews, you might know the answers already. I really hope you don't because I just it's so amusing. We're in a scenario here. Okay, a convoy of vehicles and peoples all head in toward an innocent group of children. Horrifying stuff. Don't know what's going to happen, but Wonder Woman and her trusty boyfriends will get to that stuff too. Shad, don't worry. We'll ask him about it. They have to figure out a way to stop this. You know, the vehicles ahead and right toward the children, the innocent children playing football. Horrifying stuff. And so what what is the answer? And you know, I'll give you a clue because I don't want you, you know, completely in the with no clues at all RPG slide. Well, what do you call that? An RPG. Yeah. This is an RPG. All right. Well, yeah. So you pull it. Her boyfriend pulls that out now in response to seeing children and you pull that out. That's interesting as a choice. Right. I mean like and she nods in approval is going. She nods in approval at this. So you must, you know, it's a good thing. I don't want to make any kind of meta commentary on this. Is really, is really woman Palestinian children. Like, where is this going? I don't know. This is an RPG. There's lots of things to interpret in this. So it launches. Sweat. You know, Jesus, it launches. Now I missed this beat before. What is he saying to her here? Exactly. Oh, well, you know what? Let's they're not saying anything. I don't remember them saying anything, but even if they are telepathic. Oh, just trust me. It doesn't matter even if they are saying anything. I would rather just give the information that John got as well. So yes, I'm just trying to get a shot of it because VLC can like glitch up sometimes. So here we go. This is the last frame. I'll show you as a clue. What is about to happen that involves Wonder Woman saving these children? Just waiting for it to catch up. So is the rocket heading towards the children? I won't confirm where the rocket's heading. That's that's a part of your speculation. I mean, well, it seems to be flying through the air. We've just seen the kids playing football in the road. I mean, just I assume that this is a total misdirection and that the the inevitable horror isn't going to actually be inevitable. So you are actually can you almost think that the rocket's heading toward the children just and that's just that's the the weirdness of the scene from what I've seen. It looks kind of bad. Yeah. I seem it's going to blow up one of the APC's right. So that's a fair thing to think that he's aiming to blow up the vehicles before they reach the children. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, you know, I'm not going to I'm not going to speculate with you for ages. We already do with John. We'll just see how the scene plays out. I'll just play it piece by piece. So I don't know how far behind you are. I'll try and commentate we're relevant. Yeah. I don't even know where if it's necessary. Right. So she grabs the thing with her lasso and she's using this to propel herself to presumably snatch the children out of the way. That would obviously be what she was doing. Do you have one small rocket? Don't you think all of that just follows like that's just something that normal people would do. I think that that is a tremendous endorsement of the arms industry. Yeah. They allow Wonder Woman to save kids. Reach speeds never possible before RPG sevens. She was a full speed of that RPG. She clings on to a pile on swings down now to appreciate Spider-Man. Look at all this. I want to we're back here folks. This wonderful shot. Now the speed in which she is traveling and her superhuman arm, the location of it on that little girl's neck. Do you think there could be a problem? I mean, it certainly could hurt. You'd go for the waist, wouldn't you? Probably. I'd say so. In fact, I'd say that the children would be in trouble no matter where she grabs them. But because we're just going to annihilate them. But the neck. Damn. And of course. Old move. Unfortunately for our hero, she slips off that lasso and lands on the ground. They just bowed. Look at the total lack of force in which she picks up those kids. Yeah, right. Okay. I don't understand why she lost her grip on the whip. She never does that. She's losing her powers. It makes total sense. Oh. Why? She's losing her powers because she wished to have her boyfriend back and that's the price is she slowly loses her powers. That's how the magical monkeys Paul Crystal works. I didn't know that. It's like you don't even pay attention to the magical rules. I can't hear any of the dialogue. I didn't realize like you had to like willingly forfeit something in order to get. Oh, it's not willing. No, not willingly. Oh, okay. It just randomly selects. But did she know at the time of wishing that that was the cost of her wish? No. No. She didn't even wished. Hmm. She didn't even wish? Oh, say that again, Shad. She didn't even know she had wished at the time. She's just like reminiscing. Yeah. She just happened to. Yeah. So the film has two people who just happened to sort of wish to this rock. That grants wishes. Right. I was going to ask what this wish mechanic was because I don't really know what the I like. I, you know, I didn't really get the full scope of it. People just changing the entire world with wishes. Yes. It's so dumb. It's so dumb. We're actually. We're dumb. We are coming toward that part, actually, in the narrative, but so well, the crash course is there's a mystical rock that if you touch it and wish for something, it will grant that wish, but it'll cost you something. It could be anything and a character takes the rock and wishes to be the rock. And thus, if anyone touches him, they can wish for something that comes true and then he can take whatever payment he wants off of them up to and including their whole lives. Like he can just be like, I am going to take everything you own now, like legally, I guess. Right. I think I just avoid that. He gets headaches as well as a result. This is this is where it starts to get interesting in terms of just like it starts to kill him over the course of this film, apparently. Kind of weird. Yeah, they throw in they tend to throw in rules along the way. There's never really a scene to sort of establish rules or what the what the stone does or what the legend says. It's just sort of a fitness. This stuff happens on magic. There's this movie is a very poor implementation of how to establish magic and rules in films. Yeah. Many of us very. But I mean, this this sort of like wish mechanic they've gotten it sounds as awful as time travel. You know, like, you know, you create a load of contradictions here that you can't resolve. How do we even know what she wished for? Like if it's not established in dialogue, well, it's the little that you get to assume whatever matches what we see. It's it's it's choose your own way. I've got a I've got a question more broadly that I think you guys could answer. Why does Hollywood fucking suck? Because people constantly reward terrible things. So there's no pressure to improve. How can that go on? Well, it goes on. Well, because if a lot of really bad stuff makes a lot of money and a lot of people think like the boys season to the boys in general, the boys season to the Mandalorian Wonder Woman. This stuff is garbage, but people love it and it makes a shit ton of money. Well, I mean, they do make a lot of money, but they don't always win. But it's not enough to establish a pattern for quality. And it's all the writing. Like, yes, ultimately, it's the writing. They've gotten rid of anybody who disagrees with them politically, aside from the fact that it's a giant echo chamber and anybody who speaks up against that will be ostracized forever. It's it's more politics than than creativity and an ability now. So if you can politic your way through the corporate and it getting so corporate now has brought in the corporate politics of it, too. So if you're like an Alex Kurtzman who writes Star Trek and I don't know if you guys watch Star Trek Discovery, it's complete garbage. Yeah, he gets paid because he knows how to navigate. He knows how to kiss ass. He knows how to tell the bankers that don't know anything about, especially these franchises like Star Trek and Star Wars. He knows how to navigate through that. And yeah, the general writing is the writers now, the young writers now that they're bringing in have no experience. I mean, they have the experience of sitting in their room all day being on the Internet. But you know, remember when writers used to, I don't know, climb Mount Everest and go, you know, hunting freaking, I don't know, tigers and stuff. They don't do that anymore. I'm thinking was it James Cameron making the abyss, right? They've got these huge sets and the filled with water and the whole thing looks difficult to navigate anyway and they're making a film in difficult conditions. I wonder if it's something to do with technology really. It's computer generated graphics. I don't think so because there have been movies with great graphics, movies with terrible graphics and that's just a money issue. You can just throw money at something and it can generally look good. You can pay for good graphics. Yeah, but what I mean is like because you can do that it could be that that's affecting story and affecting writing because it's just maybe in a sense that it's just another aspect that's become easy and easier to just shave off to just that those guys can do that those guys can do that. I was so far superior to anything else because it was limited on budget. Todd Phillips had talked him into the script and they're like fine you get 50 million bucks but they were able to use that 50 million bucks which is still a massive amount of money better than anybody else because they were forced to be creative. The secondary way that might be kind of one of the contributing factors but I think ultimately it's that most people don't care about good writing. Yes, so much right because so many things that don't have good writing make you know billions of dollars and so they don't think oh well something needs to change because they can just keep doing that. You know like why feel the need to try to get better writers when the bad writing is making billions of dollars. But it's all very short term isn't it like because like Star Wars is a franchise has effectively been killed off. Well I don't know It's a bit of a zombie. You have the man Yeah it's a zombie. A zombie is a good way to put it it's still moving forward making money like the Mandalorian is beloved by people. Beloved, yeah. It's totally mundane. I mean I think it's crap. I wanted to really like the Mandalorian. Well I mean I don't want to call it shit because I mean look at it it's relative. No no we'll convince you later. Yeah I see why people like it. I can see why people want to like it. I can see why people are desperate. I wanted to like it. Yeah same here I wanted to like it right because I like the kind of like western gunslinger trope that's a cool trope you know cool character putting in Star Wars universe that's also cool no Jedi's around that's actually interesting you know I'm sick of fucking lightsabers at this point and the whole thing was so boring I just couldn't even get to the end of season 2 I was just like I can't. Wow I've not heard that take honestly. Oh yeah that's yeah that is unusual I don't hear that it's boring thing much for Mandalorian that's interesting. I think it's really for such short episodes there are huge moments of walking slowly up the door I fell out with the Ahsoka episode there was a lot of padding in the Ahsoka episode. Also yeah so if the first portion has been blocked because of probably Wonder Woman stuff I'm gonna fix that in post I've got a copy locally already so you are afraid those in the chat who are lucky enough to see the first half of this will be exclusive for possibly a week enjoy. That is one of the biggest problems in Hollywood we'll fix it in post. I mean I have to. I have to censor it in post because yeah I guess I showed a little too much. Well because this is a thing that's supposed to actually be taken to court like is it fair use what we just did it's like we showed like 40 minutes of the film and we had a 6 hour stream I don't even think like yeah well I mean but also it's not a substitute for the original thing and also we provide commentary on literally every second of it transformative. Absolutely yeah but from the spots you are showing so it's very solidly fair use but I'm still gonna have to cover up all the visuals with a EFAP logo probably which is okay so be it yeah yeah writing a shit right now that was the point of that conversation I suppose. One thing I will add though is that there's a lot of really really really great movies and shows being made it's just a lot of the most popular things are garbage so there are so many really good movies every year that I feel like certain kinds of people just oh they think that like oh all writing is awful nothing good came out this year and it's like there are a lot of really good smaller movies that came out this year you know what I mean? Yeah we're obviously referring to mainstream when we have these conversations not everything. Yeah it's true. Also this looks like someone saw the woman try to color her in really badly like with the white that's VLC doing that yeah I gotta say I love me some VLC glitch art yeah it's been a great aspect so we are at the point where like wait why isn't one woman chasing the convoy it's like well you see she is injured and that is just like okay I guess that's just the price and that's going to come into the big emotional payoff soon enough Before we move on though there is another aspect that I thought would be good to have Carl in on oh he's not here right now okay as soon as he comes back jump in on it though the other thing I was just going to mention then with this scene is she just told the children to keep the secret quote-unquote which I don't even know that they would know what that means they should be like what's okay but look she's look at these people walking by her yeah yeah they don't care you're dressed a little weird I mean especially for like a what seems to be a rather conservative woman area she should be stoned right she should be stoned right now well they wouldn't just throw rocks at her instantly I would I'd be like you're a terrible superhero yeah stone the harlot God why would they throw rocks at her because she's American or something she's not wearing the prescribed attire yes everyone that defends her for being a rapist would say everyone wants to throw rocks at her yeah yeah that too so let's see I don't even remember where the film goes next I'm almost kind of like excited oh it's the cheetah scene so no one cares waiting for it to move on yeah I think they just get the next lead I guess from here they meet her in like a warehouse right oh yeah with the random Indian guy who pretends to be mine right there he is God this scene is so funny long it's another long scene but like remember the red flags she raises that's context they are discussing how they're going to defeat Maxwell and the stone and revert the wishes that's like the main thing they're talking about in the background Kristen Wiig is like oh I don't want that oh that's not something I want oh I like my wish I'm not doing that and they ignore her the entire time even though a part of his spell is that people pay attention to her oh yeah so when we were watching this they don't look up to her they don't respond to her it's like she's invisible in the room it's almost like they film the two scenes separately with her on one side of the table and Chris Pine and Wonder Woman on the other it is bizarre how nobody in the room reacts to anything that she says what if they did maybe that could help explain like why this scene is so fucking strange is that they recorded her parts separately um do they listen I have heard this movie was very heavily reshot but I don't know what aspects is there a scene where they're all in the frame together I think maybe when they arrived but uh I'm keeping an eye out for it oh that's actually backs of heads they can fake yeah that was the back of Gal Gadot on this yeah that's all I have to say about commentary on this scene it's so odd I've got another thing we don't know it at the time but this whole establishing that this is like a Mayan god wish crystal oh right they do nothing with the Mayan aspect no they do nothing with this to establish it's cool cause Mayan like South American mythology has got some crazy baller imagery with plume serpents and dragons and all kinds of crazy shit and so I think it would be really cool if cause eventually she turns into a weird thundercat cheetah lady turned into a Mayan mythology inspired like predator creature a dragon with all these colorful scales or a serpent yeah or something that was really cool they don't do anything with that it's just ah it's a weird grayish cheetah thing and instead of playing up the Mayan aspect they don't even get a real Mayan person they get an Indian guy who's pretending to be Mayan and it's played for a joke so yeah there's that so I mean this movie doesn't even work for like the progressive crowd they don't like it either nobody likes it no they picked a super villain a severe problem to see on top of what you've mentioned I'm not sure if you touched on them while I just had to duck out quickly um but for instance this is a key point in them figuring out how the wish mechanics work and there are massive leaps where you get the information out of the ether they just make it up and it's like oh that's how it works like Steve makes a connection with their monkey statue that it takes your most valuable possession where the hell did he get that information from he just says this is how like what most of it is it like Aladdin's lamp rules where like each person gets three wishes or something or is it like a one database of like three wishes from everybody and then they're seeking to undo all the wishes that have ever been made on this thing but what did it take from max what did it take from pager pascal his ability to not bleed through his ears no that was precious to him the ability to remain human so wouldn't his son die well so it was interesting he said most precious possession whatever wouldn't it be wonder woman's like whip or the thing that the watch from Steve not her powers right this is a bit more abstract was there a line about your most precious possession yeah he actually says it I'm pretty sure that Steve he says he figures it out it's like the monkey's poor it takes your most valuable possession and it's just that's not how the monkey power works that is not how the monkey's power works well taking away the powers would be like the obvious thing but then the thing it really takes would be a step beyond that where it's like no I'm going to take this thing super important if I remember the story correctly you get what you want for but in the worst way possible you can play with that for your university this is more like equivalent exchange where they call it monkey's ball twice specifically and I'm like no this isn't the thing at all no this doesn't help rags are you telling me that the writers don't know what they're talking about or what they're doing with the story I'm suggesting that you could have ended the sentences the writers don't know and that's a this show had writers so the idea apparently was that like it's taking their most valuable possession so what is the cheetah lose her humanity that's the most valuable possession was the fact that she was nice yeah it does sound like it was not valuable to her at all because she was a miserable person she'd hate the fact that she was so kind she wants to she wishes she had a backbone and a spine and she wouldn't let people walk all over her yeah the fact that she doesn't really lose anything except that she becomes mean as a result of the power she feels from the wish that's so stupid such a cop out so right now they're trying to reverse every single wish that's ever been made on this thing right is that the idea yeah but we don't know how many wishes have been made on this thing throughout time yeah there could have been like infinite an infinite amount which brings us to one of our other issues that we'll probably get to near the end we're on the same wavelength of that one how does a wish that was the consequence of which was you know her parents meeting or something right exactly that's what I was thinking yeah they never established what if you wished for something impossible or wished for something that sort of what if you wished for something because was this thing used back in the day like we're talking thousands and thousands years ago I wonder if a portion of reality is essentially riding on that or at least civilization and if you to break the stone and undo all wishes I don't know that probably doesn't have to be something that's interesting no but that makes sense though because this thing's been around for god knows how long has no one used it in the past thousands years you would think somebody did civilizations I was saying hmm can I give an edgy hot take when it comes to this from you pre-disavowed I kind of find myself hating the people that they use in movies now not that I know any of them or anything like that but kind of almost a form of like age bigotry I guess you could call it I keep seeing these posters and stills and clips of like California zoomers and millennials and these people do not look for a second like they have ever suffered anything in their entire lives they are very very attractive their skin is flawless they look kind of chubby not really as like muscular as I would expect from people who have lived a hard life and we're supposed to be like yeah so like Ray this is, I mean Ray's not actually too bad an example to be honest but like this is a person who's had a really rough life and it's like dude there was a girl who was photographed for the cover of like National Geographic magazine in the 90s and she was this like 12 year old Afghan girl with green eyes and the same girl had the same after she grown up had a photo taken like 15 years later you know I think she was about 30 and she looked old man and she had this thousand yard stare and it's like yeah and so when I'm seeing these like pudgy Californian leftists young people like I'm just looking at thinking there's just no way I'm convinced just by looking at you that you've been through anything you know you don't have life experience I just think about it's like you know like movies in the 90s you know the people are not often like so well manicured so well taken care of you know and I'm just thinking movies like Predator I believe the guys in Predator you know been through the school hard knocks you know but when I'm watching modern movies I'm just like and because it's all dripping in irony as well right nothing about it is sincere and so it kind of feels like these people have never all of the ideas that they have about hardship are kind of second hand ideas they've got from books or something and that's just I know that I'm giving a very vague point you know you can't pin down any like it looks to it's not fantasy but it's like an idyllic version of reality I agree on Ray it would be contextual example you're going for Sargon are you telling me that this woman doesn't look like she's a weathered warrior this you're telling me movies are fake only telling me she doesn't look like a battle tested warrior so you're telling me hasn't really been what three battles we don't even know what she's been in because she doesn't tell us we don't know anything about her character because she's not a character she's a a really a good example is Carl Urban right in the boys Carl Urban is character the way he looks and the way he acts he seems very much like a man of the world he looks rough you know he looks quite rugged he's he's not got you know smooth skin and he's not clean shaven and he doesn't look like he's spent every last second in the gym and on some kind of special Hollywood which means that you know the skin around his neck is like like shrink wrapped on right and you can see what a professional actor looks like a lot of time and I'm just finding it less and less convincing the more and more I watch it and I'm just like okay well she's literally a supermodel she's playing somebody who went through Will Will Want apparently it's like I know she was a superhero though I'm not saying don't use attractive people I'm not saying there's a part of it there's something about it that detaches me from the media you know I can't get into the thing I feel like I'm being shown a play I get what you mean seriously like 100% about Ray not only does she not look at all like she's had a horrible life growing up on a scavenger planet like living day to day she doesn't act like it either she's playful and adventure and you're like yeah but it's meant to be for like children or something there is the melody there's this one scene and I think it's the the last film of the new trilogy that just got me and this is where I can't shake the word sincerity there's a total lack of sincerity in Hollywood and it's when a matey boy the ginger guy who's the general is like I'm the spy and Poe's reaction is comical oh yeah so he's like what and it's like it sounds like something of a comedy that's the sort of thing I would say in my living room anymore sorry yeah that whole scene is bad the whole film is good yeah the problem I have of the yeah the problem I have of it is like real people don't live with this kind of sense of irony if there's like real danger coming at you know everything is not ironic everything's actually very serious very sincere about what's going on because you're about to get decked or whatever it is and yet in all of these like new Hollywood movies nobody seems to give a shit about what's happening and it's like okay I like I can't yeah they don't behave like characters in an actual world they behave like actors well for example like a loop taken to the extreme essentially for example if seconds ago you were about to be crushed between two tanks then your boyfriend suggests throwing an RPG at some children you don't go yeah you're more like holy fucking hell are you insane this is like oh but well it doesn't feel like any of the characters are in any danger right no that's exactly you knew every one of those characters is going to come out of this looking golden and I keep going back to Predator but if you go back to Predator like in the beginning when they're attacking the village yeah sure they're all macho men and they're invulnerable basically in aliens so aliens is another good example aliens is another great example the characters feel like they're in danger you know and even though they're these huge strapping guys the Predator can actually make like these massive dudes scared it gets you invested it makes you feel it's real yeah I have a lot of respect for I just wanted to say I have a lot of respect for actors and actresses who are willing to make themselves look rough like when you have somebody like right yeah or I was thinking like Charlize Theron in that movie Monster or a more recent example like Amy Adams and Glenn Close in Hillbilly Elegy where they make themselves look deliberately like unflattering for the sake of the role and it lends a realism to that role where you can take the story more seriously you're more engaged in the narrative that those characters are more believable and compelling and you don't get the sense like their hairstylist is just off camera you know ready to touch them up perfectly it's it sucks me out of it a common trope is the much like Wonder Woman got in this film the sexy wounds trope wherever they are hurt it's like oh no look at me I am hurt and you're like okay I've been damaged in a way that's never on my face always on the arm or the shoulder yeah I was just going to offer a recent example where like the character actually looks like it fits the part and it looks like they're suffering quite a bit is both the characters but especially Willem Dafoe's character in the lighthouse he's like the perfect example he just looks so worn down by like years of being a sea captain he just looks like absolute shit and it's amazing you know they look like they're really suffering in that movie as they should but this is why I really like Joker I read a review of it essentially the author of the review was complaining that he was like skinny and emaciated but not in a sexy way and I'm like I mean I agree it wasn't sexy but like ridiculous he was totally sexy why were you expecting that from he wasn't sexy like Jared Leto or like Mike Keaton in a bird man where like he just looks like shit he looks like the Jared Leto one is a great comparison as well because like he looks manicured and you know he's got like tattoos and he looks healthy he looks like in good condition he's playing a character rather than walking like a loon Jesse from Breaking Bad would get like his life is like drug addict junkie trader of drug stuff but he looks pretty awesome immaculate actor wise and so yeah that's one of the things I think if you could do Breaking Bad again they probably would have made him look a lot more like a drug addict and it might even help when he eventually becomes clean it would help that transition cause you'd see it and feel it a lot more his teeth are a little too perfect for somebody who is a chronic meth user yeah that's all of Hollywood though isn't it they'll do a film with cavemen the cavemen have got these straight white smiles and you're like right okay that's weird yeah that's the tendency you wanted to bring some an upshot to Sargon as well right oh yeah but just to ending off the Phillips that we were having before is that a good actor some of the best actors in fact have a real life experience and then they can try and connect it to the role that they're playing and you can usually sense that coming through in their performance and I think a good example is probably Robert Downey Jr's performance of Iron Man where he had some interesting parallels in his own life with the Tony Hawk character and it added a sense of authenticity to his performance that I think and everyone felt that he was made for the role I think there's a merit there I also wanted to mention just when we're talking about Gal Gadot wasn't she in the military for like a few years I don't know if she's in the active company in Israel yeah but so I don't know how well that translates and even if she could draw on real world experience she's not a good actor so she struggles a lot I assume we mean this in the most fundamental sense of I cannot detect I can't see what emotion she's trying to portray most of the time the one I detect probably isn't suitable for the scene like it I think the best example we actually found was that one where she was running she looks really bored yeah that was terrible wow I don't see the original Wonder Woman and like a no point and no point did I feel the character felt like they weren't in total control of the environment around them and I always find that really frustrating like where's the tension hey man in Mandalorian he has a suit of protection so the one episode where he doesn't get to have it none of his enemies have blasters for the first half and the second half they can't aim but I mean like in the Mandalorian when you know he gets attacked by the Rhino thing he's getting beasted that's one episode one time I agree yeah they only do that those for the plot reveal of the baby Yoda can use the force we're not going to have that be a plot reveal he would have fucking done great but would that have happened to Rey Rey would have befriended the beast and healed its wounds and it would have regurgitated we don't deny that he's as bad as Rey that's Rey of Estacy would have taken care of all that admittedly low status audience enhanced data driven analysis that is the Mandalorian yeah like because the robot studied the reaction to the sequels and it was like Disney this is not just get Luke out get his lightsaber out trust me we have succeeded we did good this is starting Bob Iger writes notes for the script the CEO of the company who used to be a weatherman I guess he worked on Roseanne too but he writes notes for the script for the Mandalorian that must be a nightmare it's generally remarkable how I'm not going to use your notes Bob Iger CEO but it's remarkable how mundane it is considering like this is the thing the fans are clinging to now how much time they devote and spend on combat and excitement I've never seen combat be so boring and dull yeah man if they could nail the combat maybe the season would have a point because that's clearly all they're trying to build to is just combat sessions because there's like such little character which by the way watch the original trilogy there's a lot of character in there that's why you care so much it's not the fight scenes guys the scenes we are learning about these people 100% agree it's the argument that Han Solo and Princess Leia are having would get you invested in the characters and I think that you think of Han it's what JJ Abrams said about TFA you think of Han, he's got his pistol and he's shooting stormtroopers no that's not what I think of Han it's embarrassing because it's like oh no it's the flanderization thing it's like what is Leia Leia is confidence and leading but she's a character no it's Luke depending on who you ask I suppose they all have very different answers yeah I felt genuinely bad for Mark Hamill man I never really thought about the way these characters affect the actors before because I always assumed it was a paycheck and then they move on but obviously in the case of Mark Hamill this has been a defining feature of his life as an adult he is this and watching Ryan Johnson basically piss up the wall I genuinely felt bad for him watching the interviews where he's like yeah no Luke wouldn't do this and it's like yeah you're damn right this is awful every time I've seen Luke after the original the original movies he doesn't behave like Luke would behave he's just he wears the face and he sounds like him but he's just a bizarre weird thing those depressing fucking interviews man Mark is trying to explain the problem and then there's that one where Ryan just takes the microphone and he's like yeah so anyways Luke just looks down that's obviously the fucking connection there puts his head in his hands his face down slowly watching those interviews gave me a lot of respect for Mark Hamill because he did his absolute best to be honest about things but he knew he was constrained by contracts and he went over the line a couple of times and he got in trouble but he really did his best he had a tough line to follow but you could tell he was trying to tell people the truth about the situation don't expect you're going to reclaim your childhood he's like what's that one where they say I completely disagree with everything my character does it's like okay that's a good start they say like what is unique about the last Jedi that is unlike any other Star Wars film he goes it's the longest encouraging thank you carry on good audio good audio he's like it's just I just felt bad for him the whole time that was a time 2018 just scrubbing through those interviews and finding all of his comments it was insane you'd never see that because watching interviews is usually boring because they have canned answers the best example is I forgot my name the one who plays captain phasmer and Brienne you could tell she was told to say it's great to play a character that's defined through her actions and her character she would just say that over and over she had nothing else to say but Mark he had a lot to say he's got a reputation where he can get away with it I'm sure they yelled at him but he can get away with that now and it was so refreshing to hear it was so refreshing to hear I disagreed with everything they wrote from my character but that's not my job I was like wow that's really honest they never talk like that you had to pretend he wasn't even playing Luke he was like this is a different Luke he was like wow there's no way Mark Hamill has TLJ in his hand there's no way there's no way everyone's waiting for them to either decanonize and move it to a different universe or just forget it to just actively creating content in the Star Wars universe but avoiding that era just stay away from it that's probably what they'll do because they're not going to actively decanonize it but they'll do stuff that contradicts it and then just not talk about it they've got like 10 years of wiggle room while I think that the Mandalorian is fucking horrible one good thing about it that I could probably say is legit nice is that the success of the Mandalorian probably increases the chances that they'll decanonize TLJ move away from it they will move away from it yeah definitely move away from it but I think it increases the chances because now they know to play it safe just show Luke cutting down robots that's what people like that's what people will clap at so just show that you can have him be a loser on an island I don't know I'm like fucking expectations I'm like a character still but I'll settle for this too yeah he's not a character but he's not like being assassinated he's an idealization that's a good like they didn't crap on OG characters but there are warning signs in the Mandalorian that are pointing straight to the sequel trilogy oh yeah it's the exact same issues as the sequel trilogy without the malice no they've actually inserted plot points like the fact that they needed Baby Yoda for his Medi-Chorin Count for a cloning project so they're obviously trying to make a clone that's a very powerful force user Snoke essentially that the remnants of the Imperial thing saying we want to bring order to the galaxy that's another the first order I'm worried man I'm worried that they're suddenly setting up the prequel story if they said like our goal is to you know create a great amount of context to make the sequel trilogy much more digestible I'd be like you're not gonna do it it's not gonna work yeah there's no prequel you can really give like even if they did I think I forget when Malar and I were talking about it if it was on a stream or not but in a theoretical season of a show where you have the Luke story between Return of the Jedi and TLJ fully fleshed out and explained in the best possible way and it was written brilliantly that still would only get you to now I can understand why they assassinated Luke but that doesn't mean they had to do it and they chose to do it anyway yeah it's like is it really worth it mending a bridge that takes you to a fire it's like I don't know yeah it's like yeah yeah this is a beautiful wonderful bridge that is constructed marvelously that leads to fucking horse shit there does seem to be a sort of air of malice about it though doesn't there we're deliberately subverting your expectations because fuck you yeah like Star Wars isn't we bought Star Wars you know like yeah the fans love it and we know all the stuff that they love about it and it's great but it's ours to do with because we please yeah we don't have to worry about it one thing I'll say in defense of Wonder Woman 1984 I know right crazy but I don't think a lot of this a lot of this stupid shit they've done in this movie like none of it feels malicious at all none of it feels like oh fucking fans for liking things it's like it's just horribly horribly incompetent and it's hilarious the best kind of incompetent yeah yeah they genuinely thought this was good they're not trying to like subvert your expectations like oh this character you like what if they were a coward now it's like oh this character you like what if you know they could summon invisible force fields out of their ass so what did Chaston why are you talking about Star Wars welcome to EFAP you must be in this first episode I see you're new here I'm rags welcome to Tangents yeah well good segue would be was the thing you wanted to ask us to relate to Wonder Woman 1984 oh there really is I think all of us want to know I think I know you go ahead well it requires a bit of a setup so Wonder Woman wishes a boyfriend back and instead of because they have a magic rock that could have just done anything they wanted he could have just materialized the ether and is here now they decided to have his soul essentially possess the body of another person okay just a random guy a random guy they didn't even name him like Mola pointed out in the credits he is hint why isn't it Mola that was from thought theater originally pointed that out first name handsome last name guy yeah he found that I guess but I found it fucking shocking as hell that they would have the balls to not name the characters used strictly for oof she's just a piece of meat who's who's the actor who plays the boyfriend just out of interest do you mean Chris Pine or do you mean the one who played the boyfriend she's trying to resurrect Chris Pine I don't know that Captain Kirk from like right okay so yeah sorry carry on okay so you would think that this would raise some pretty significant moral questions is like okay my boyfriend my dead boyfriend is now in possession of this other person's body okay not only do they not question that like once through the whole movie that this could be an issue they do certain things Chris Pine in possession of the body right can you guess what they do with this body consent I imagine that this would fall under many different categories of sexual assault we're done in real life so when you say sexual assault are you thinking kissing probably full on penetration I guess is where I'd expect it to go yeah there's a scene where they're in bed together it's the morning and they're in bed heavily implied without any question that alright they just had sex in someone else's body so the comparison to this is if there was a girl who got someone drunk unconscious and put the a mask on this guy of a dead boyfriend and then had their way with this person without they consent that's the that would be the comparison to this that would certainly be something that would land you in jail I would think yeah that's what Wonder Woman does in the movie so yeah I like a good ethical dilemma in my films it could have been they could have like so the film never recognizes this or brings it up and neither does our amazing heroine this is never something that's in any way addressed there is no attempt to resolve it because there is not an issue that's even there to be resolved it's a very weird and uncanny just lack of recognition that this is a thing that's happening and this guy has he lost his bodily autonomy basically for all intents and purposes this old guy, this one guy has been just whisked away away from existence so that Chris Pine can now control his body in his life as if that was the way things had always been and as if the guy doesn't have any claim to his old life and they were willing by implication because Wonder Woman wanted Steve to stay with her and never leave they were willing to that guy's life away like he's dead now we don't care yep apparently all of the audience detected this but none of the people who made this thing did bizarre the question of whether or not it's rape do you think it do you not think it hinges on where the persona of the original handsome guy is like whether he's been forced out of the body or but is he still in the body but just squished to the side he doesn't have any control but he can observe what's happening he's like no don't have sex with me it's never addressed it's like he never existed and Chris Pine now owns his everything, his life right I do wonder where that original persona is floating around looking for a body like hey what are you doing with my body he runs into Wonder Woman at the end of the film and he doesn't recognize her so I don't think that would be the case that he's aware of what's happening it could be that by erasing all of the wishes his mind was wiped of the event itself because he's an entity that was fucked with for this wish I haven't seen the movie so is there a scene near the end where the original guy inhabits his original body which we hold on so he's been inhabited by Chris Pine's consciousness for how many days exactly we're not sure let's say a week his own consciousness returns to his body but he has no memory at all of what happened in that week because then he would have addressed her in a different way than he does in the reveal it's strange so it's like the film doesn't know of course it has no idea what's happening he reappears essentially so Wonder Woman just encounters handsome man and they just strike up a friendly random conversation the shocking thing here is that Diana is not a dick to him for no reason but it's as if they have just met and it's the first time and nothing is wrong at all despite all of the events in the film apparently things just carry on as normal despite the incredible cataclysm of what's just occurred it's very bizarre it's really unclear how that works if you wake up like a week ahead of when you were last conscious and you have no memory at all of what happened wouldn't you be like trying to figure out what the fuck just happened to you well like your job would be calling you and your family like where are you what's going on like what's happened and all the food would like you got a your faces is on the security footage of you breaking into the Smithsonian with this random woman yeah we just really just briefly mentioned it but yeah like he could wake up in a prison cell for all the crimes he's committed with Wonder Woman honestly I didn't expect the movie to be smart enough to even like give the original guy his body back like I thought they were just going to ignore that yeah he's just gone forever you know right because that's just what happens I'm surprised to hear that they actually bring him back I can imagine he had a girlfriend always married oh yeah he has a life of his own obviously I mean if they are going to bring him back what's the implications of that and it's not thought about at all I think chat said this or I think chat or one of the hosts I'm sorry I'm just going to say that I think chat or one of the hosts today guest said it like what if his wish was to actually do Wonder Woman because he just saw her and his monkey spa consequences that his body yeah his body does it and he doesn't remember doing it doesn't remember yeah that's it for the structure of the film no one else had access to the wishing stone before there was a guy that was arguing with me about this on Twitter he tried to say that oh well what happened was well you don't know that the guy didn't just die of alcohol poisoning or sickness like a day before and then came back to life with Chris Pine in his body what the fuck and if the roles were reversed I mean if the genders were reversed there would be outcry Twitter would be on fire the Mary Sue would be frantically typing out their articles so Sargon when you do watch this movie because you absolutely should keep in mind that the people who wrote and directed it consider themselves feminists it enhances the experience I would say oh I look forward to watching it well speaking of is everyone ready for me to continue with this incredible plotline I'm actually I'm going to duck out because it's nearly half two here and I'm actually shattered thank you very much for having me on it's been very nice to meet you nice to meet you sir happy new year Sargon keep up the good work we'll see you soon bye what a pussy I know three bigots down now I just want to say that particular point on Twitter that handsome man just died before the events of this film he tried to cite the show Lucifer as that being possible where apparently a person dies a goddess or something possesses the body and then after they leave the body the person comes back to life it's like okay that's in Lucifer it's not established to be the case in this thing no it's implied very heavily because he's alive after Chris Pine leaves his body and is perfectly fine that he was not on death's bed at all like great they just repurposed his body through that whole thing technically Lucifer is a DC property still a stretch nope good enough I didn't realize they owned the devil they did they acquired the rights Warner Brothers acquired the rights to Satan in the 70s when they took over can I acquire the rights to God and Jesus? I feel like that would be quite lucrative for me I think the Bible is pretty sure they're public domain now DC did a treasure edition on the inventors of him long dead um alright so she's gone cheetah at the end of the discussion she did try to tell them again and again that she's the villain in this scene but they just couldn't pick it up unfortunate I'm quite interested in how quickly cheetah accepts the whole wish thing I mean every for this point they were like we just need to get the stone back she's like I'll help she walks in and she's just hit with this magic and wishes and she's like oh okay sure no question all the characters have to do that because as much as this film is bloated it's also dense different points we need to move really fast with all this now you can enjoy the fish out of water scene where he looks so close no no no no the mind god let's move now you can look at fireworks the visible jet it's going to be wonderful that's a really good point at moments it's completely dense wait hold on slow down and then other scenes they take forever just last for a really long time very true Maxwell is like sort of things are becoming unstable he's bleeding out of his eye and he's soon to bleed out of his ear and he's supposed to be taking care of his son he's trying to sort out all these wishes and stuff it's all catching up with him so to speak and he's just struggling to keep it all together I think we're getting the scene soon the one that I actually really like yeah does he have some kind of degenerative condition now that he's made no that's just BLC no it's just no but he is bleeding though right yes it seems like he's being gradually killed by the fact that he is a wish stone I don't really understand it which is something that they make up I don't anyone here follow that clarify I okay my initial impression was that like if he doesn't keep granting wishes he'll keep deteriorating but someone said that like the more he yeah so I'm confused about that well Gary you saw it twice do you remember any details that explain this no as a matter of fact what I remember is he was coughing before he got the stone so it felt and we had I had this conversation with the guys at Friday night hights it felt like he was gonna he had some health problem that they just edited out and then they just he could have well wish him well yeah yeah that's a good point just like eternal health maybe yeah yeah this whole bleeding and desperation to grant wishes yeah so Gary you could be his friend in real life he writes this stuff down like wish this for me please you could be like what do you mean like that doesn't mean just say this out loud hold my hand just do it for me friend you just trust me okay and you do it they go conflict over like who do I get the magic in do I get the wish wind yes yes real golden locks it'll make you wibbly wobble over and feel great again wait a reason there are people in chat who know about the wish wind it's gonna be relevant it's coming we're gonna bring it back up you'll I guess the reason I thought that he had to keep granting wishes to avoid deteriorating physically was because otherwise I don't get why he's so compelled to keep granting wishes at larger and larger scales yeah so that kind of plays into how they they take the idea of this character and they just take him to crazy land yes that's part of the problem with Maxwell is the there is something there but it gets ruined by these other weird ideas they want to throw in but go ahead wish him well like wouldn't there be a monkey's paw effect on him no he would their wish would come true and he would get to take whatever he wants from them so you'd be like Gary I'm having a hat and you'd be like oh here you go yeah and that's all you'd have to do to fulfill the arrangement where he gets to take stuff he just takes something that's basically inconsequential to them and looking at things through the current year lens of Hollywood maybe there was some kind of commentary on the 80s and capitalism and greed he kept on saying I want more I just want more and what did Reagan wish for more nukes more nukes oh we're almost to that oh yeah the fucking present yeah joke of a scene was that supposed to be Reagan in the White House supposed to be Reagan yeah I guess it was but they didn't find a guy who looked like him so it was a little confusing it's weird but I didn't get the strong vibe on the first watch that they were going for any sort of overt political or satirical message but then when people talk about it I'm like maybe I guess that was the point but honestly it could just be incompetence that it wasn't nailed the only I'm sorry but like the IMDb credits say it's just POTUS not Reagan for Reagan was literally Ronald Reagan it's generic president but I think I took it as generic president but the idea is that it could still be an attempt at satire of Reagan but even then I'm not sure about that I doubt it too because if you're going to attack Reagan you don't attack him over ending the cold war it's like economic stuff or whatever you know this is hard I would hate Reagan so I can't assume they call it a POTUS but I've just had way too much experience I don't know I think he probably won I mean I can believe it's a general shot the presidency right at least future pass would have like a guy that actually looked like Nixon played Nixon I think like Fargo season 2 had Bruce Campbell playing as Reagan it's like you can get actors that can look like a younger Ronald Reagan or Ronald Reagan in his presidency but you know Campbell was good at like the mannerism sort of and also they had the big bust as in the signs that said Reagan so that helped a lot as well so people in chat are talking about the idea especially with Max Lord is that it's supposed to be Trump but this is where I really don't see that political message because his character is too nuanced and sympathetic to be a portrayal of someone that they think is like literal evil and in the end he gets sort of a happy ending yeah dude he's the most sympathetic character in the whole movie yeah and also he gets the minority to build the wall so I don't get some Mexico to pay for it well a lot of people got that impression because Patty Jenkins came out and said it she came out and said that he was one of the inspirations for the character and she failed at that she completely failed yeah so that's death of the author there for you I didn't think it's well communicated at all honestly he's the most sympathetic character in the movie like you said so she goes yeah it's supposed to be Trump because he's so bad right and I'm like no I mean maybe if the film is actually supposed to be pro Trump sure yeah maybe he's trying to argue that the film was like yeah I want more of him Trump is a good person he's trying his best that's what's important Mahler hello I gotta go oh no I gotta help my mom we're making lunch for new year so you know what you make the shit out of that lunch weekend can I drop by later because the second half of this the second half of the sentence description is kind of interesting so I kind of want to drop by if I could later the second half of the sentence description yeah the and a response from oh sure I mean I think that's interesting I know people still wait for that guys it's in order we got to do order one breakdown first we still haven't completed that okay we're getting there yeah yeah yeah jump jump back lunch and if I can drop by later yeah okay so have a happy new year good sir happy new year man happy new year happy new year god bless have a good one bye bye VLC has been one of the best guests of this EFAP I think fucking haunting oh my god oh no it actually reminds me of hobby dead from the dark night like this yeah I was about to say yeah that's really good I love glitch art that's amazing dude with the red eye as well and his lips have like gone a bit purple because of the I don't know the glitch he looks like a ghoul hey yeah nice regarding the depiction of presidents I feel like in present day stories the application of like generic president guy makes more sense but if you're telling like a period movie there's almost an obligation to like yeah display the president it's impossible you should anticipate that people will assume you're going to be referencing Reagan in some form if you're going to pick this timeline as well as like whatever you have that president do and say how can anyone not interpret that as your commentary on the presidency you'll be like yes yeah I mean I mean the wise idea is just to play him neutrally yeah right avoid having or cast someone who looks literally nothing like Reagan yeah if you want to be like be very like make him a character who is like neutral in the sense of his intelligence and his morality but give him the like you can even be almost like a caricature not in an insulting way but where he's just hyper his mannerisms and his accent and stuff like that just for funsies but not in an insulting way right so yeah he's totally dying and we just had a montage of him granting wishes to people and this is what I mean about this film it is wonderful at not getting across what it's trying to say you're sitting here like wait is he dying are the wishes stopping him from dying or the wishes killing him and does he just want to cast wishes because he is a wish thing is this for his overall goal is this because he just wants to grant wishes does he have like a is this for his son is this for his job right now shouldn't all of it have been fixed by now so you don't really understand and what's unfortunate about it is now we get the scene that we were all big fans of actually which he yeah this is a really good scene here which made us angry that they don't do anything with this like idea it's really unfortunate so the context here is that he I guess now figures the way he can best care for his son is just if the son wishes for his life to be great because that will just be a guarantee and the conversation isn't even like from what I remember the dialogue was relatively well written in terms of how the conversation flows and the kid instead of asking or wishing that his life is great he wishes for his father's life to be great and it's granted and of course his father's like no you and it's a nice sort of way to create a meaningful sort of dramatic steak that is ruined on such a micro level like you wanted him to wish himself better but he wished you better and that's bad because that's not what you wanted but it's so sweet coming from the son yeah the three best scenes in the movie are like the first scene with the son are these two characters? this scene with the son and then the scene at the very end with the son yeah those are the three scenes that I like in this film but ironically I guess and it's funny as well because I really I really wanted said explicitly that Pedro Pascal is so good in this movie I really do think he's incredible he's putting his not just compared to everyone else I think he's actually really really good because he does do a great job he is owning this character he wants to emote exactly as this character should be you know he wants us to feel what this character feels and sometimes it works for everyone that's seen the DCEU films is it safe to say that he's the best DCEU villain so we've got Zod Steppenwolf Ares the guy from Shazam all of the DC villains are very very archetypal aren't they like they're just the I am big and powerful you will die air bones one dimensional what do you think Gary who's the best DCEU villain in the movies hey do you have like civil wars with people in your you know groups and stuff like these DC movies oh yeah there's people who love them there's a giant group of people who love the Snyder Cut people and yeah I mean I'm awfully soft on superhero films because I'm a lifelong comic book fan and I've watched so many crappy ones it's just like but yeah there's a giant faction who love the Snyder Cut and they are a lot of them are my subs and you know I loved it I mean I didn't like the movie Batman vs Superman but I like moments in it but I like that the fans got something they wanted I think that's rare so that's why I back it but I mean I can't tell you it's good but alright fair enough DCU Joker not from Suicide Squad I know it's not the best oh wait you're referencing Joker Joker as in walking Phoenix yeah oh yeah oh he doesn't count I'm removing him from the selection you're not allowed that's that's too easy Gary that is too easy for you to grab you're not allowed him he's going on the shelf yeah because he's not Joker is not part of the DCU at least not right now who knows what I'll do I'm trying to cheat Deathstroke at the end I have like 2 seconds of screen time it's the best you know Gary I think that's that's a fair choice but I guess the only reason why he would come above Max for me would just be the fact that he's not in any way broken Max is a weird one like to judge fully but I still think he's better than basically all the other I am big and strong and I will kill you oh no I lost villains in the DCU yes arc side and to everyone in the better in the Snyder Cut but yeah I guess as it stands I wasn't impressed with Pedro Pascal's performance at all what he was more like a victim in a Twilight Zone I didn't really see him as a villain well I don't even disagree with you on that actually I think he's the protagonist that's how I would categorize him it's hard to just call him a straight up villain I think especially because at the end he learns his lesson yeah he's his antagonist I don't think so I think he's the part look he's Bruce Almighty he's doing Bruce Almighty's whole movie the only problem is the movie doesn't realize he's the protagonist sometimes that's all yeah that's kind of a good point he kind of is the protagonist and I want to say to anyone in chat who I saw saying that he's amming it up and overacting in this movie to quote Patrick Willems you have bad taste I don't want to be friends with you Molly you brought that up Diana's interactions are minimal other than just trying to stop her but we're following his journey throughout the entire film so the big significant learning moment for him is not prompted by her the film thinks it is but it's not she says like renounce the wishes because that's the good thing and then the whole world starts doing it don't live about the lies, tell the truth please it's only when his son is like scared and screaming and like he senses that he's like I renounce my wish because he doesn't want the ultimate thing he wants is his son to be safe he wants what's best for his son, yeah he's got nothing to do with Wonder Woman she's just there also between Maxwell Lord and Wonder Woman one of them is a rapist and it's not Maxwell Lord also, that's what I mean one of them learned something the other one just cries because Steve Trevor has to leave she's awful and the inciting incident for him has nothing to do with her he just happens to meet her she fights him at portions in the movie so she is clearly his antagonist she's trying to stop him from being able to complete his goals and then he learns that the goal what he wanted was not what he needed it is his film Wonder Woman just has to be in it is the requirement for a character being a part of the extended universe just that they need to have multiple depictions in the context of a multiverse like there needs to be multiple versions of that character technically it's not it was supposed to be it's because they've completely separated it and they went against their own canon because she wasn't supposed to be around for a hundred years and she was flopping around the freaking mall in the White House in her costume I'm sure that would have caught somebody's eye at some point and then many people have brought up that the romance doesn't age works at the same place someone said Max only sees his son because of the whip is that true? how does that make sense? what was the question? Max only sees his son because of the whip of truth how does that work? oh yeah she can implant visions into people through the lasso oh okay I guess if that's the case if that's the case she has more involvement in it than I previously thought but that still doesn't make her the protagonist she's just a person in the story I think the film would be better if she was not in it that's what I'm trying to get at yeah if we just had the story this story is set up almost it seems like it's almost purpose built specifically for a tale about a man who doesn't want who loves his son and doesn't want his son to go through what he did and wants the best for his son and is doing everything in his power to try and make the world a good place for his son and his son great in it and it's about the follies of losing sight of what's important to you and how you can be corrupted by greed and everything along the way this story is just set up so well for this concept a guy who can get pretty much anything he comes across this power it potentially solves all of his problems how does he deal with it and um I just don't do anything with it it's just almost like the most interesting aspect of this movie and just like like the woods randomly where was that transmission station how did he get there how did his kid survive all that I learned this from Patrick Willems when you cut from one thing to another thing whatever the character needed they got it okay that's how it works and if you disagree you disagree with the concept of montage which has been established in film for decades sir are you a filmmaker no okay so then I can have a murder mystery where the first scene is the detective going to the crime scene for the first time and then the very next scene is them arresting the killer we can just infer everything happened in between I'm glad we have this conversation that's a really good movie you just made talk I was really impressed with how everything came together I just didn't know glad it all worked out there was no filler at all the pacing was excellent if I wanted me to like this movie with the focus of Bax we think that Bax is the closest thing to quality they have in this film it's all garbage still it's just like there's something there we are mining we're mining much like his team were mining for oil it's the connection there you see that's how you do oil these days right you mine for it oil yes drill you mine for oil and you bucket it and send it up a mine shaft and put it into the trucks that's how they do oil now I wonder how much of that personally that he brought to the film because I think when you have really good actors they'll look at a script read their character and be like this is mediocre I want more no matter how weird any actor is in their personal lives or on social media whatever I usually try and separate their acting prowess like I've said this before and I'll say it again Mel Gibson he's really fucking good that is best as an actor he says some strange things I'm just like whatever just talking about the acting Peter Pascal when he has something to work with even apparently when he doesn't have much to work with he still tries and I don't this is what I mean my brain is like what about Mandalorian though and I'm like I don't know I can't explain Mandalorian I don't know why he's just a he's just a bore let me get my let me see what I think it's a good could it be that he's just being directed to be as like stoic as possible to the point of just being a boring character we use a dull inconsistent personality vacant plot armor-wearing luck machine yeah well I'm strictly talking about his performance like he when given when given certain lines like we play I played one of them in the I think it was mini six or seven with the Mandalorian he's supposed to say like she's like I will not train him and he's supposed to say what but he goes what and it's such a like what the hell was that delivery why do you sound so strange and then a lot of lines as you guys know real well is hello I don't think he would have taken that role based on the role I think he took it because it was Star Wars and it meant some kind of exposure for him and then yeah he got it and then he probably had some money into a Disney show and they probably paid Disney bucks right I wonder if he gets a role they definitely played Disney bucks I wonder if he got a a seasons of recording done in like two hours or something I could believe it it's gonna be interesting to see when the vision comes out to see if it's a Disney thing for the episodes to be so short or if it was just a Mandalorian thing yeah yeah yeah I think season 3 of Mando is gonna be super interesting to see in terms of Mando's involvement in the whole season and how much they crank the fan service considering everything glib in chat said that like Mandalorian he's wearing a helmet and he might like that he might as well be doing ADR in a booth he absolutely is doing yeah I believe that that doesn't mean he has to pull in a bad performance though I mean there's no way to get clean audio with a mask on anyway he's just doing it all cleanliness of the audio it's just the way that everything is delivered oh yeah the example I just gave what it's like you can totally you can deliver that a million ways with a mask on or not and I just why it's so lame like all of his performances as Mandalorian a lame and I think we have to assume it's the director slash whoever else is saying like this is the character you play him this way they must well what I mean is they give a fuck to tell him to be mundane to be stoic as I feel like stoic is getting abused as a weird we have muted it's it's are you a Jedi it's dull it's disdainful it's it's distant it's like you're somewhere but you're here physically but not in spirit and it's not the fact that he's recording all his lines ADR that's the problem it's the fact that he's definitely being directed to be a nothing of a character also compared to Bobo I'm almost always inclined to blame the directors for poor performances is especially when you know someone can be good in something else, I feel like people often blame actors when it's definitely how they're being directed. I think that seems to be the case more often than that. Oh yeah, this is proof of that I feel with Pedro here. When they're like accusing him of having stolen the Mandalorian armor and Boba said he delivers it like this armor belonged to my father. It's like very aggressive and defensive. It's really cool because he also has an amazing accent. Mando would do it that way, we've been this armor is belonged to my father. No, even trying to mock his dullness, I'm more exciting and interesting. That's the thing, he's hard to mock because whenever you try to mock how dull he is, you overshoot it and you make something more interesting by accident. Your natural human instinct is to put some level of emotion in care into how you express yourself. It's hard to caricature a monotone voice. I imagine that's a very frustrating role for him because even if it was always him in the suit and he acted his ass off, like did the best body acting he could, going through his head he'd probably be thinking like the audience aren't going to know for sure that it's me doing this. Yeah, I think that's it. They might see it like it's somebody else. As long as your bias is showing more, I am biased toward Boba rather than Mando because Tamira Morrison is an actor, at least in Mandalorian. I don't mean to say Peter Pascal is not an actor, but in Mandalorian you wouldn't be able to tell. Tamira Morrison is like a lot of, he's great. I want more of him. I just wish he had better scripts to work with because yeah, I think we've already been over that. Beyond the dad bod, which is fine. Yeah, I honestly, I'm willing to roll with it if I get more of him talking about how he feels about Mandalorians, the world in general, the empire, his position in it. God, I want some characters, please. Are you talking about Boba Fett or Bilber? Boba Fett, I mean, like Boba Fett's dad bod actually made him look stronger and tougher. Yeah, he looks like someone up. He looks like an actual dad bod on Boba Fett. Yeah, he looks like an actual strong person, not a bodybuilder, but an actual person who is strong. He's just a lot shorter now. It would be interesting to see over the seasons if his bod does kind of tone up a bit and change a little over time. Oh, dude, it'd be awesome if he really gets into training up for, because I think he likes playing that role and knowing he has his own TV show, that might get him in a position where he's like, oh, dude, yeah, and I would, I would imagine he's over the moon. Does he knows? Yeah. If we make a Boba Fett show with like several seasons, we're going to just be printing money. Yeah. And by the same note, the actor might be encouraged to be like, I'm going to hit the gym, fuck this. It was my TV show. I'm going to be, I'm going to look good for it. Hell yeah. I believe he totally, yeah. It's almost like it was, it was experimental to bring him back, you think? Yeah, I think they were testing the waters with it probably. Yeah. And then now that they know how people feel about it, you know, by the time episode eight rolled around, they were like, yep, we're giving him a TV show. I think, well, it matches, right? Because the theory goes that Mando season three would have possibly been the book of Boba Fett, as in, Boba takes over because nobody fucking cares about Mando. I hope so. I mean, he was in season one at the end. That was him getting age of eight, but yeah. Yeah, but that could have been anybody. Oh, well, it's a steak of sorts, as in like, we're set. We could, you could argue he's, he's dripping into the Mandalorian show from the start, quote unquote. And so it's like, oh, he's always been there. It's a shell that he can take over for Pedro. With the rumored problems with the Pedro supposedly being mad that, you know, he wanted to take his mask off. It does match up actually. I don't know why, especially knowing the react. They knew they would get a reaction. Maybe not as big of a reaction with Luke coming back, but they knew they would get a reaction. And then to wait a year, it's going to be a full year till we get another Mandalorian and just fill it with Boba Fett, which isn't bad. It's not a bad thing. It's just, you would think you would want to run on that momentum. And it's not a shooting schedule thing. They don't have to travel. I mean, it's harder, harder because of the COOF, but they have that studio, that, that screen that they use, other technologies, but at the dude, that's going to make, you know, it's not perfect by any means, but I, that's the one thing I think is good about it. I like how they, the way they shoot that. I mean, I think it's really cool. It's just, God damn it. I wish they had good writers because we'd be in, this would be a miracle. We'd be getting 11 TV shows made for all these different characters in a world we love, and it's all really well supported and delivered. And they all come in and out of each other and connected. We're going to have a story event as KK described it. Like it sounds so corporate when you put it that way. We shall have a story event. You're like, oh, okay. Yeah. And of course, what we're actually getting is 11 TV shows that we, we have no clue on what, what it's going to look like. Just going to hope it's good. It'll be a surprise if one of them is actually like a diamond in the rough. Kind of thing. All depends on who writes it. And Favreau is like the best of them right now. And he wrote. I thought that is shit show if he's the best. Here's the thing though. He's, Favreau is horrendously bad with writing, but he might be the best because the, no, the Rogue One writer, surely it's better. Oh, you're talking about Gareth Edwards? Maybe, yeah. Did he write or did he write? Yeah, he's better. But that's, that's, I mean, that's the, the Cassian Andor series. So what's interesting about that though is the John's Favreau seems to know how to balance the line between complete his Disney gods and also do writing that won't make everyone angry. Because Gareth Edwards got pooped out, right? Like despite Rogue One success, he's not writing for Star Wars ever again, or at least it seems that way. Like Rogue One got reshot quite a bit. So I don't know, but if John is the best we got, I really hope we can bring in some guest writers. That'd be cool. So Gareth Edwards just directed Rogue One. He didn't write. Gary Witte wrote, wrote, co-wrote Rogue One. I could have sworn that Gareth Edwards. Four writers credited for Rogue One. Is Gareth Edwards in those credits or no? No, he's just the director. Just the director. I don't know. I am, if, if John Favreau is the best writer for Star Wars right now, then it is by technicality. Yeah, because he is a shitty writer. That is a very unpopular opinion on other parts of the internet, but I agree with you as well. He only has like nine writing credits in total, and the only one that I recognize that's prior to Mandalorian is the movie chef that he did. But yeah, Iron Man and Chef I think of the things that people usually are like, that's they're good. He didn't write Iron Man. He didn't. Well, it's considered his work though. This is the problem. Like I do, I do want to stress just because you don't have a writing credit does not mean you have nothing to do with the writing. The Rousseau's have a shit ton to do with the writing. Yeah, sure. They wrote Iron Man and then they shot it. He also directed Elf, you know? Yeah, Elf was good. Like Swinger. Obviously this is kind of the problem with the director in some respects, but they get to choose what to actually film and have people, you know, for example, a line when filming, they could be like, hey, try this other line, actually. Oh, for sure. And then, you know, then it's not to negate what the director has influence on in terms of the writing and how it's all presented. But there is a difference between John Favreau as a writer and just as a director, someone else's script, you know? Yeah, no, I agree. If you cite it as a writer rather than- You never know if on-screen credits, there's all kind of money politics behind like the filmmaking process. People want their names erased or people get uncredited work. Yeah, as a writer on a script, it's sort of a shorthand, but it's roughly, if you contribute more than like 10 or 20% of the total script, you get a writing credit. But if it's just a couple lines, you know, if you're an actor who's like, oh, what if I said it like this, you know, you don't immediately get a writing credit. There's a certain threshold that you have to hit. It's kind of arbitrary, but, you know. Yeah, maybe you'll get like a story credit, like story by such and such. Yeah. Well then, wishes start getting granted all over the place. And so at this point in the movie, you're like, oh, Gigi, all someone has to do is vote a wish for like, you know, total destruction and everything's over, which this is some depressed people out there. Have we skipped Wonder Woman's transportation, shall we say? No, no, no. Okay, I'm just making sure. Because this is Max's moving through the country and just granting wishes. And this guy has a farm now, and that means a bunch of cows appeared next to him. Interesting, again, interpretation from the Monkey's Paw. It's like, I think you shall have cows if you wish to have a farm. Okay. This comedy shot as well of it padding to be like, look, cows. You're like, okay. Is this actor a cameo? Did he used to play someone famous or is he an actor I'm just not familiar with? Is that why they have this? It seems like one of those Stanley kinds of things they just add in. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe someone in chat, if you know, give a holler. Because that's just what it feels like. VLC definitely wasn't helping with this. No, VLC. I'm trying to recognize it. I don't know what you're talking about. VLC. He used to play Wonder Woman. No, he used to play Wonder Woman. Was that right here? Yeah, yeah. Male or female, someone walking the dog with cameo? So the guy's name is Joe Palka. And his credit... He used to play Wonder Woman. He gets to be known as Cow Man. Naver slash Cow Man. That was the one who told him what was happening. That's the... I was confused by the whole thing. Well, that's Gene Hudson Miller and his credit is Doug Walker. I mean, Doug Walker. Oh. That was a hot scene. Yeah, it don't appear to be special at all. So this scene, someone remind me what happens in this scene. Is this the one where they realize that Steve's got to die? Yeah, Steve is like, oh, yeah, if you want to... But remember, Steve says, if you want to get your powers back to defeat her, right, you have to let me go. It's not, holy shit, we've just hijacked another person's life and we can't do this, isn't right. So you can get your powers back. I need to go. That directly implies that they would have been happy for Steve to have remained in that body forever. Like, they didn't care. Kind of does. It does sort of... See, it does implicitly... Crazy levels of incompetence because the story would be so much better if, as they progress and ignore the fact that he's taken over someone's life, more pieces of that guy's life keep reminding them of what they've done is wrong, as in, you know, at first it's just photos, then it's his job calling him to say that, like, where the fuck are you, then a loved one, and then finally, like, even a mother comes back and says, like, what the fuck, and there's a big old... He's like, we can't do this. This guy has to have his life back. It's unfair. Like, just because I die doesn't mean I can take someone else's life. Yeah. That would be a story. That would be a story, wouldn't it? I specifically wish Steve back with a bad hair dye job, too. That's why my wife was totally hung up on that one. Like, you see it's, like, orange because he's going gray. Was he gray in the first one? I don't remember it. No, he wasn't. Not to that extent. I don't remember. There's too much white in that scene. It's like they're in purgatory or something. Maybe that's what it means. Oh, my goodness. This is the crossroads. Guys, that means it's good. Oh, wow. Listen, I'm impressed with the... Interesting series of credits. I didn't even fucking realize these things. I played this guy's landlord on a show in 96 and also a cowman in Wonder Woman 84 in 2020. Look out for me. I'm the cowman. It makes me wonder how do you get picked for these rolls? Two entire credits in Wonder Woman 84. An extra that, like, took a 24-year break. He just didn't do any work in that period. Oh, I would watch a cowman movie. So, yeah, now we're looking at security footage and news to try and get a lead. And this is where they just randomly drop on us that Wonder Woman has a whole suit of armor that her mother used to have when she defended the Amazonians from humans back in the day. Oh, I forgot about that. That's not her mom, though. It's just not her mom that had the armor. That's what it was. So did she go back to her home in between Wonder Woman 1 and 2? I don't know. I don't... But it's not her mom. It's just a famous warrior from their tribe. It's Athena, right? Oh, is it? Yeah, because... An apnea or any... It's going to end up being Linda Carter. And that's not her mother. Sleep apnea is... I could have... Maybe I mix it up because I thought the mum... The mum was the queen of the Amazonians and the queen of the Amazonians did this. Oh, maybe I mix it up. Yeah, it wasn't her mom. It was the great warrior, Karen, or whoever, who had their invincible armor and killed all the managers. Asteria. Asteria, yeah. And... Yeah, well, you know what? I... It was funny. When we saw this, I think we're like, wait, she has the power to send visions to people through her whip. We actually do see it in the first film when Aries electrocutes her whip and makes us see visions of a world without humans. So, you know, this precedent in a weird way. This precedent. And of course... Did you read the first one? I probably should have done that. I haven't watched it in a couple of years. We were not impressed. That's terrible. Yeah. And I hear it's the best of the DCEU, so I am excited to see you again. It is. Oh, my God. But yeah, if now is the time, you wish to go back to whatever it is you do on a New Year's night, Mr. Negrotic. I'm gonna go yell at Paul and both people, and Holly will know. Enjoy a little time with the family. Sorry I got a bug out. It's been a blast. It was nice meeting all you guys. Thanks for having me on Moller. Yeah, man, absolutely. It's always a blast. And it's good to get more input from different people about this incredible movie that capped off 2020. I can't believe I'm talking about it. But yes, no, it's been a lot of fun. Happy New Year, everyone. Be safe. Yes, see you around. Happy New Year, dude. Nice talking to you. Bye. Bye. Bye-bye. Oh, my God. Two hours to New Year's. I think now we can go back to the normal amount of people thing on the Discord. Look at that, everyone. Finally, we can calm down. Yeah, cheese. A full-on party. Oh, wow. There you go. Now we fill the space. Now there is no space lacking, even though we're all a bit colder now because of the icicles. Oh, yeah. How far are we into the movie at this point? One hour and 41 minutes. Oh, wow. So long. In time, what are we at? We were at six, seven, eight hours? I can't remember anymore. When did we start? At least seven. Yeah. I think we've always been here. This is purgatory. I was born on the stream, and I'll die on the stream. So I found this amusing. You've got this woman surrounding herself in these wings against an army of Spartans, and none of them think to try and attack her through the top. You can just sneak that blade in. You'll get her in the face. But this armor, by the way, gets torn away by Cheetah. Of course, she's stronger than all the men. Well, what is the wording of that spell for Cheetah to become the most powerful thing in the history of the world sort of thing? She says something like, I don't want to just be like Diana anymore. I want to be number one. I want to be an apex predator. Something like that. Gosh. So she gets two wishes. Well, enter our discussion on how many wishes you get. No, no. We went over this earlier. It's not that she gets another wish. It's that he provides through the payment from other wishes. He provides her, you like points to do, and he says, you will get what you want, or you will get strength. I can't remember. It's that's what Shad said. It's not made clear. No, well, again, super strong like thing in this movie. Things are just not translated well to the audience at all. I brought this up with, I think you were in the call right with Jay. Every single piece of awful content seems to have like a particular issue that's in it more than anything else has this issue. Like this one has all your standard stuff. But it's really, have you ever watched a film before you go, yes, this film particularly can't translate what the fuck is happening in terms of like its own rules. Yeah. You can contradict rules. It does a very, very poor job letting audiences know what the fuck. Because you know, like, Ryza Skywalker is like, okay, so the bad guys can't tell which way is up. That is really dumb. But at least I understand what you told me. And it's a concept I'm, yeah, I could, I'm, I can sort of imagine vertigo in my head kind of, not knowing which way is up. Okay. They don't have the knowledge of which way is up. Okay. Super dumb, but I follow. Someone said Shad's audio is not working. Shaddy, all right. Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah. All right. Yeah. Okay. If it's good, it's good. Yeah. But I would like to say the armor is useless and utterly ridiculous and stupid. I hate it. Why would you say that? It's terrorist. So more. Well, it seems like the own, she only ever uses it for defense by using the wings. Even in this flashback, it's only the wings trying to defend things. And we all ultimately find out the wings are pretty crap anyway. Yeah, broken off. It's just dumb on so many levels. Can I highlight this guy right here? Can I go on my coaster on him? This guy, look at, he's aiming for the golden wings. Let's see where his sword goes. Oh, you almost had it. They're like vaguely gesturing toward the golden statue. That's good enough. It's going to look good when post guys, I swear. Seriously, every time I look at your avatar, capital low, I think it fucking is Harvey Dent every time. Can he be trusted? I don't know. So yeah, he's just like, what is this? And then she's like, this is what it is through her memory tism thing. And then it's like, okay. And it's one of the most obvious, like this will be relevant later. You're like, all right. Yeah, exactly. She could have just described it to him, but we have to set up that the whip can now broadcast. Broadcast the truth to people. Obviously. Question mark. That'll come handy later. Well, that is weird, right? I guess she chooses what you see and it can be something from history slash, well, just something that happened or is happening. So what does it mean when it says it's like showing you the truth? What is like who? It's not that simple is the point. I mean, the truth is what happened. Well, can she open up visions to another place? Like she could use it to spy or like, because she essentially shows Max his son. That's like divination kind of ability. I don't really get it. I'll be honest with you, Shad. I don't get it. Like it'd be one thing if it was maybe allowing people to see things that Diana herself has seen, but there's no way that she could have possibly have seen this. So yeah, it's a weird perspective thing. This is almost the same problem that the show devs has that they like show. I know. Sorry, but they they show like backwards and forwards projections of like the past and the future. And it's like, from what perspective are we seeing any of this? So when it's like, this is the truth of what happened for the past warrior. And it's like, from whose perspective are we seeing this? What is happening here? I don't understand how this works at all. This this is the difference between truth and fact, right? To to observe a fact is not necessarily to observe the truth of a matter, right? Because there's multiple perspectives. Well, that's deep, man. Dude, remember this? Remember this guy? My favorite character. Oh, look at that posture. Look at him. He will fuck you up. You better not break into that place. Yeah, you will. Holy shit. You know what this reminds me of? Let me see if I can. I already know what you're going to post that it's it's suitable. I already know what it's going to be. There's no way that you know. I don't know. I don't know. Well, yeah, that's what I thought you were going to do. That's my captain America. That's what we call but it's really cool that they chose to reference this artwork in Wonder Woman 1984. Here he is. In the flesh. That makes it good. The idea here is that it's going to set up the eventual crossover series because Marvel characters are bleeding into the DC universe. This is cap. And he's a bodyguard. That's true. That's true. He's a body. He's got a lot of body to guard. That's for sure. So they're here. And honestly, I can't remember why. They're out. They are in place. They're off the max and Max is going to the White House. How did they find out Max was down there again? Just is it like public knowledge? Because it's a big deal. I don't know. I'm probably sure it was fine and we wouldn't have any comments whatsoever to make on how they found out why he was going to the White House. I'm sure. I'm sure it's fine. I suppose we can just find the only outfit by the way. They see it on TV. They see him driving down the road and the cars are parting for him. Oh, yeah. Because that's what he has the guy wish for, doesn't he? He's like, don't you wish that we could get there real fast? He's like, I do wish that. That is something I wish that it works. It's really awkwardly done, but whatever. Molly, so if you have any questions from now on, just assume the answer is magic. It'll help everything out a bit. I am okay with the idea that I have missed some things in this film that make it slightly better. That is very possible. I don't think it'll fix the movie though. And yeah, so we're at the scene where he, I guess he's desperate for just wishes to be granted and requested and granted. And so he's like, Mr. President, what do you want more than anything in the world if you could have anything you want? What is it that you want? Are you okay? I just know what's coming. And so, of course, the president wants more of everything and Nukes is one of the most significant elements. Pretty lame. Pretty lame. And also this is where it's more nukes. This is like one of the major conflicts arises is that the acquisition of more nukes pushes us close to another world war rather than the fact that someone could just be wishing for a world war, wishing for- Yeah, well, he could have just wished the USSR dissolved peacefully. Yeah, he could have wished for a world peace. He could have just said, I wish the USSR had no nukes. But he's like, no, I just wish we had more. More nukes. Imagine he was like a bit defeated and he just said, I wish it would stop. I wish the pain, the politics, the everything that just fucking drives this whole country to destroy its own people with arguments and destruction and the different countries, everything. I, you know, I wish everyone could just get what they wanted. What the fuck would happen then? Even though- No, more nukes. More nukes. No, I need more nukes. More nukes. Change anything about anything. I wish we had more nukes. He wants more nukes. Even if he said, I wish America was just unstoppable and that we owned the universe, it'd be more interesting than more nukes. Okay. Yeah, for sure. Are we having the third act yet? I can't tell. I don't know where the acts are in this film. It's hard to tell, yeah. I don't think we've hit, we haven't hit the act two low point for Wonder Woman yet. Oh, right. I don't know what the dialogue is, so it's hard to tell if we've passed the low point or we've yet to do it. I don't think so. I think the low point, hypothetically, is when she loses Steve. Yeah, no, I agree. The start of act three would probably be the sky bit. Let's just call it that. The sky bit. If we're like an hour and 45 in and we're still not at act three, this is a fucking one. It's a two and a half hour long movie, man. Maybe he's a banger, man. So yeah, more nukes and the payment he gets is, well, it's just so happens. So of course, Max wants a way to grant more wishes faster, right? And what can he do? And then he's like, hey, this room I'm in? You guys have got some stuff on some boards here. What is this? And he's like, oh, that's our telecommunication thing that allows us to get a message to everybody all around the world through particles. It allows them to touch everyone in the world. That's where I was going with that. You know, you got to set it up first. You got to be like, oh, yeah, it's with particles. It's all this and that. And he's like, huh? And he's like, it allows us. It's like we get to touch the whole world. And he's like, touch. You said touch? Also, Max is really, Max is like, this tomato sauce coming out of his nose now. We're in trouble. The president doesn't say anything about it. He's just like, like it's totally normal. You don't have AIDS, do you? And of course, because this is how movies work, it's been a while since we've had an action scene. We should probably have one. Like, I mean, I'm not right. Why not? The thing that connection, the touching thing, just shows blatantly how thin the logic is. Like, that's not even, ah. I was like, what the? They just gave up. They're like, I don't know. They just don't want to know another level, but they're going with it. It's like, really? That's what you're going with? Okay. That face from the president's side, I feel like this, that would be you. And if I can, god damn it. I missed it. Give me a sec. It's when he rises from his seat, it's the absolute realization that this movie, nobody really wrote it. It just sort of happened. Yeah. This was the plot that just sort of happens in the wild, unguided by evolution, you know? It's just sort of out there existing. Like, you know what happened was, like during each day of production, Patty Jenkins just got like a new idea for a scene and they just ran with it. The eyebrows. Patty Jenkins had a terrible alcohol problem and she would just show up with her different ideas every day. Yeah. Why not, right? This was like, what you just said was retarded. This is ridiculous. It's so funny. This was the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard you say. She's like the only, the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard me say so far. And how Max is just like, so this device you have in the room that I was speaking to you in, this is useful to me. It's like, yeah, I guess it is. That's good. It's so funny. It's kind of like a burst blood vessel in his eye and everything. He's just looking so deranged at this point. I love it. Could someone have wished for this for him or could he set it up or something? Because outside of a wish, the convenience. We could have wished for someone to set it up for him. Sure. I wish that I could grant everyone on Earth's wishes. Would that work? That's the thing about wishes, man. It's like time travel. You got to lay down some rules. Yeah. I wish I could touch everyone in the world simultaneously. There you go. Boom. Me too. Check me too. Well, then you've got to do, they've got to be able to hear you as well, you know. So you can say, hey, wish for stuff. Do it. All right then. So yeah, it becomes clear that he must be stopped before he grants all of the wishes. And so, as he's moving away, suddenly Wonder Woman, and she's got him in the whip a less so of truth of tisms and it's what happens next. And first, Wonder Woman actually tells Steve, don't kill these guys because they're under his influence. Which is interesting, considering our interactions throughout all of Wonder Woman 1. Yeah, pretty. Suddenly there are innocent people. Yeah, here too. She didn't do it with a security detail on the road on the highway. True. Yeah, they were allowed to reside. Oh, she's such a character. No, Steve, even though we don't have to fight them at all here, don't kill them. You know, do they have a feminist type school with her outfit? That is, I could see them. That depends which ones you talk to and what day of the week. Yep, it's empowering to half of them and it's sexually exploitative to the other half. Because that is, you know, she's not staying warm in that, you know, just saying. I think most feminists don't have a problem. People like Arnita Strykisian will find a problem in anything and like boo boo. Oh, yeah, they'll definitely, yeah, their job depends on it. Good. Now, to be fair, this is Washington, D.C. in July. So I think it's pretty good. Oh, it's hot. Yeah, D.C. is hot in the summer. I can vouch for that. There's another element to consider with her costume. It's if, regardless of how it looks, it could look exactly the same. But if a girl made it, it's fine. But if a guy made it, then it's probably sexist. Yeah, that's a weird thing. It's not sexist when it's directed by a woman, but if it was directed by a man, they'd be like, the male gaze. I just come back from getting a croissant and I return to this. Say something gayer. I am pro gay. I feel like the concept of the male gaze. Dude, she's got the male gaze right now. That's what it is. I feel like the male gaze, I think. Sorry, go ahead. The pupils in Chris Pine's eyes. That's terrifying. I can't even, I don't even know what the fuck's going on in that mess. I think with some male gaze on my line. Do you think Kronenberg, when he got his ideas, was just playing VLC and pausing it every once in a while? Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. He looks like some sort of, I don't know, ancient Greek mythology monster or something. Oh, have you ever seen like blending drinks, exercising and like taking your phone calls live? Have you ever seen that video? It's a guy on like public access television who's on a treadmill doing paintings and blending drinks while also taking phone calls. And there's like a green screen behind him and it's doing all this weird glitching. It's the most chaotic thing I've ever seen in my life. It's pretty amazing. It reminds me a lot of VLC at its best. Holy shit. Did that in the tray stop bullets then? Well, so there's a couple of things. First of all, they're showing them reloading their guns. Wow. I know. This shocked me. They reloaded in a movie. That's just crazy. Yeah. Secondly, she realizes once again that she can be injured by bullets, which was a thing in Wonder Woman 1. So I don't know why this is the result of her losing her powers. It's a weird thing, whatever. But he does, this is the thing. He lifts up the tray and I think in our recording, Rags was like, there's no way that tray is stopping those bullets. And it's like, they don't. Oh, there's no fucking way. Yeah, that tray ain't stopping bullets. It does. Fuck that one ain't stopping at 22. It pushes, it does like they pierce the tray. So I just wonder if the tray even did anything. I don't, I don't, I'm going to try and pause it to see where. Yeah. So, so that tray is what we call concealment, not cover. There you go. Yeah, it's like thin aluminum. Might as well be fucking cardboard. Might as well not pick it up. Might as well just run. Yeah. Don't waste time being shootable, grabbing that. But yeah, say no. Ooh, you know what? He should be shot then. If you, if you watch that in slow-mo, I'm pretty sure the last shot not, but the first two I think get him. Well, at least they should. Oh yeah, that tray is. That tray is fucked up. Yeah, that tray. They even, they even take the time to show that it's pierced through the tray. So, you know. As long as it's metal, bullets will bounce off it. Yeah, like cars, right? Yeah, just cars are definitely bulletproof. Yeah, movies. I just find it funny that they took the time to show that it's making holes. But the, the, maybe they're trying to argue that it just, it didn't. You know what? I can't really tell whatever. It's a magical tray, it's fine. Yeah, amazing. Also saying that Pedro Pascal wasn't putting it all in performance-wise, look at that reaction she just had to, I am tied up by better shooting. She's deflecting them. It's perfect. What the fuck? That's what I faced would be. And be like, what's happening? Wonderful. So yeah, Steve grabs a sword in preparation to attack the men with guns and guns. I was getting excited for that part, but then they let me down, Mola. Well, it's funny because she's like, no, they're under his influence. Don't like, I don't even know that he was going to be successful, but. Yeah, he had a sword and they had guns, so he loses. Also, all those people that she killed in Cairo. Sorry? What about all those people that she killed in Cairo? What about him? Well, they didn't confirm that she killed them. It's only implied strongly that there were many deaths. Yeah. Show me the body, South Bull, you can't. Yeah. She's a goddess. She's willing to spare those who are wrongly imprisoned by spells. Oh, here comes the boomerang, Tiara. And it doesn't like a cut of a painting and misses everyone. It just annoys everyone. Like what's going on? I guess that's enough to distract them. Dude, look what it did to that portrait, though. It fucked that portrait up. Makes you wonder what exactly. Yeah, what is happening on that thing that where's the blade edge, if you will? Yeah, it's just another comic book thing. And then she just spins the whip real fast. And that acts as a, yeah, that's just how that works. I remember, I can't remember if I can brought it up before now. But this scene when she's just spinning to protect Steve as he battles someone, why isn't she moving toward them while spinning? Because, yeah, that's a good point. Like, she wants to get close to them so she can use her powers to punch them. But she doesn't. And I remember being way more invested in two men battling with one pistol in hand than I am again, the woman who magnetizes to bullets with her braces. Like, it's like, oh my god. What's the logic of the whip deflecting the bullets exactly? Like, she just spins it around in a circle and it just deflects all the bullets. I don't know, she can grab a bullet with a whip. So who gives a shit? If you can last so a bullet, anything's fucking possible. It's all over, guys. Logic is out the window. I mean, this is the point when on the first watch through where like, I think my brain just stopped working. I was just like, this whole sequence, I was just, there's so much happening. It's such a short span of time. I cannot keep up. The argument that she's bored when filming. Yeah, I guess I'll attack these guys who are trying to murder me with my magical whip. You know, whatever. I mean, I mean, the love of my life is one bullet away from being gone forever again. Oh my god. Right, he fires the gun. He's even as much as two meters away and he's disturbed by the, how loud it is over there. What is with these random neat little gun accuracies? Yeah, it's like he cares about the movie he's in. Chris Pine should be, like he's a trained soldier. He should be used to it. Like it's not comfortable, but he should be used to it, especially because he's in combat mode right now. That's Maxwell Ward, though. Oh, that's Max. Oh, okay. Then yeah, then that's a neat pick. Yeah. Guns are fucking loud as shit, especially when you're in a closed room. You should clearly do this more often. Yeah. Guns are fucking loud. Yeah, yeah. He's trying so hard when he does not need to be trying this hard for a movie like this. What is this luck right now? I'm pausing. That kicks you, does that? Where she like throws her head back, like it's a model shot. Oh, totally a super model shot. Yeah. And again, you come back to Chris Pine battling with one guy and there's a gun in play, way more invested in this because it's like an actual fight. Yeah, because he's not indestructible. Yep. And they actually have to use. Do you need to be special forces or ex-special forces to be Secret Service? Does that would say what? Are you suggesting that? I don't know. I just think so. I guess it's the soldier versus Secret Service, right? I don't think you need to have been like a Navy SEAL or anything like that to be Secret Service. But they're definitely looking for high caliber people. Sure. Yeah. I mean, it would make sense if they were hiring ex-Navy SEALs or. Oh, I'm sure they do, but I don't know if that's like a requirement. Yeah. I mean, you could probably just look it up online. It's probably a job posting that you interview and train for and then they background check you. And yeah, or maybe it's something that you can only get through recommendation. I'm not sure actually. Who knows? Apparently Wonder Woman's still strong enough to crush a gun as well, though. It's interesting. I also like. Yeah, even though. This whole bit, right? She's supposed to be super weak at this point. She manages to pop a bullet out through, I don't know what the terminology is. Rack, tell me, when you rack the slide, is that what I should be saying? Pretty much, yeah. So what she does is she, essentially what she does is she, there is, she replaces the round in a chamber with another round in the chamber. So if he pulls the trigger, a bullet's coming out. This is a cool, this is a neat little thing. It's very out of place in a film like this where they don't generally care about stuff. But yeah, it shows she knows how guns work. But just punch him. She disintegrates that gun. Holy shit. Yeah. Turns it to dust. Does this count as her shooting someone? Well, it's the the jar, right? So, but, but it's the pieces smash and one of them hits Max in the eye, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, they really didn't want to have him like get hit with the bullet or have him, have her shoot anyone or kill anyone. So it's indirect, but accomplishes the same thing. What the hell did she do to that gun? Yeah, it shatters into like it's, so metal isn't brittle like no, not typically ends and it works. That's one of metal's great properties is that when it's ideally like that, it bends. It doesn't just crack and shatter like it's glass. I think there's a deleted shot where she puts the gun in her mouth and chews it up. She spits it out. So as much as VLC wishes to avoid it, it's coming. Like VLC is like, no, please. It's just fucking up the whole screen. We've won, right? We've got Max. Here she is. Done and done. And again, Pedro Pascal is acting. Look at that fucking face he makes. And I know that people can claim overacting. We've kind of gone over this. I understand. Like fucking VLC, be nice to me. I'm trying to pause him on when he makes that face. Look at that face. He's just, that is a man who is afraid that his whole plan is coming to an end. Yeah. And then the fucking VLC's all flupy, but his facial expression completely changes the second he spots Cheetah, who, yes, Cheetah is in the storyline now. And she blasts the two of them away because this, she just has to be in the story, I guess. Yeah. So I guess we'll, this is one of those, I think we get a bit of like, don't do evil, but I want to be attractive and sought after. I remember seeing that sexy Kristen wig now. She straightened her hair, sort of. Yeah. Max is just like, I guess I'm fucking out. I don't know. It's kind of a weird point in the story, this whole sequence, but they're definitely going for the whole, ah, the hero and the villain have finally, you know, crossed paths. They've got the little hallway where they could see each other. Right, yeah. I think it's time. There you go. And then Steve just chases Max anyway. So we can get two boss battles at once. She's got eye shadow. That's how you know she's serious. She'll lame everything. Yeah, you get, Steve like, he handcuffs himself to Max, which will become relevant when they get separated and their wrists are fine because reasons. And this is probably would have been in the trailer at some point, but it's time for a maximum showdown between The Cheetah and The Wander Woman. Maximum showdown. We've been weighing the whole film for this. So meaningful. And of course the police are like, what the fuck? Who do we kill? Well, I guess both of them. But yeah, this, so it's established, quote, unquote, the Wonder Woman is hoping to protect every human being in the world. You know, she doesn't want to get them hurt, but Cheetah, oh, she will kill them all. So Wonder Woman's got to like protect them as she attacks them. Right. I'm trying to think of what that's been done in before. Oh, you know what? Reminds me of Civil War. I was thinking of Spider-Man 2, Doc Octopus, where he has to save the people while he's fighting, like he throws the people out of the train. He has to work them out. No, like fighting the people and saving them. I get what you mean. But I would say it's a little closer to Civil War, where Bucky is doing things that would kill the German police and Cap has to keep preventing the deaths from happening. What about Dark Knight, where Batman's attacked by the cops towards the end? I was going to say that too, yeah. Right, yes. Some of the things that Wonder Woman does in this are just funny. Like do you catch, I'm trying to show them where Cheetah like goes to throw a guy down and then Wonder Woman like grabs him by the neck and sort of lays them down? Is this it? Again, the whole phone is so awkwardly edited. Like, oh, what the? Wonder Woman's so weird. She grabs people in the most unsafe ways. Yeah, that guy's down. That guy's been just sitting there with his gun the whole time. I tell you, man, if people are off screen with guns, they just disappear from reality. You don't have to worry about them. Yeah. I think Wonder Woman's down. As long as they don't cross the barrier that is the shot, don't worry. It's fine. And Cheetah got to have a moment where she ran real fast and they couldn't shoot her because she's like a Cheetah. Look at her run. It's great. I'm feeling bullets are a lot faster than that. Not when you're CGI. The fast running in this movie is so funny. Oh my goodness. It's so lame. Don't know it's moving. It's like slow running with his car. Pull VLC. So yeah, she throws a guy real hard at a door. Wonder Woman throws out her lasso, manages to pull it here in the way so that he's OK. Really strange ways of saving people. You know, that's the drama right now. Make sure she don't kill anyone. The handcuffs are attached. I don't know because Max is like, what? Why did you do that? This strangles him. Again, their fight is way more interesting to me because the other one is just weird shit. Yeah, I'm just trying to think of anything else that happens in this fight that's actually of some interest. Cheetah is just beating everybody up. I feel like oh, she can break guns with her hands too. And just a punch from Cheetah when she doesn't care if these people live or die, probably going to do some damage. Yeah, it's going to kill you. And Wonder Woman's kind of crap compared to her now because she's got all of her powers. While also, unfortunately for Wonder Woman, she has a wish that's taken her powers. This is like the best day to be a Wonder Woman villain. Oh boy. She even does the thing that killed Ares. And it doesn't really work because I guess... Is it the power in the braces or is the power in Wonder Woman? I don't think what she used to kill Ares was the lightning. Well, so it was the lightning. A race of warrior women, right? So it must be the women. It was her plus her braces, plus the lightning, plus love. Like those are the four components that murdered Ares. It's like a weird Elder Scrolls potion. Like one of those like an exploit in Morrowind. Yeah, like you've combined a block of cheese with a cheese wedge to create a potion of swiftness or something like that. Look upon her in despair. She looks like some asset attack victim in London. Excuse me. It's ma'am. But yeah, she kind of just wins the fight and says stay the fuck away from Max. I think that's the main main drama of this scene. Which uh... Oh and she does the Mando thing. The Wonder Woman cannot pull her. She can pull Wonder Woman. At least it makes more sense in this scene. Because Wonder Woman's all weak. I'm not sure how whips work exactly, but I don't think that that was even possible. It's fine. Probably not like this. And yeah, Wonder Woman's kind of fucked. I don't know how this would possibly work, but you got Max and Chris Pine. That's just this film. Yeah. They are connected via handcuffs and Cheetah pushes them both apart to the point where it separates. Would that not wreck one of their wrists or both? I think so. It depends how instant it would be as well maybe. Because something's got to give, and I don't know that it would be the metal immediately rather than digging into their skin quite significantly first. Yeah, that would have. Unless it's there. Unless it was weak for some reason. Alrighty. Also, uh... John, are you looking for an exit, sir? Yeah, I got a head out. Can't take this movie anymore. I wish I could. I really want to finish the movie, but I can't. I got the opening over. Yes, I know. I'm the... How do you honk women? Well, it has been fun. Thank you very much. Yes, thank you so much for having me on as always. Yeah. Take it easy, good sir. Yeah. Happy New Year, everybody. Really appreciate it. Yeah, man. Catch you around. Thanks for coming. Anytime, man. Peace out. Boy. Bye-bye. Bye-bye, baby. All right. Well, I would say it looks like it's just five left, but that would be a lie. Because as I fumble with my phone to add people to this call without fucking up the Discord screen, which is something I can do, technology, am I right? And I'm delayed enough. And you're right. But that'll be done. You're right. You can also use discord app.com, like go on an internet browser. What am I a nude user? And how? Phone is way cooler. So yeah, I guess Max and Cheetah team up after this scene is done. And Wonder Woman is sad. Wonder Woman is sad. Oh. Oh, god. My audio. It's wrong. Hello, chat. Hello, everyone. Hello. Hey. Hello. Howdy. Howdy. Did you even watch Wonder Woman? No. It's fucking great. Like a fucking nerd. Saying that, like, it's fucking bad or something. Yeah. Yeah, that can't be possible. Pretty neat. Gal Gadot, she's beautiful and it's an immaculate movie and there's nothing wrong with it. You're an asshole. This, by the way, is what everyone's using for their thumbnails for why Wonder Woman is bad. This shot of her being like sad, down to the dumps, bleeding. It's like this was representative of the film. What are these compressed shots you have in fucking in the group chat? Yeah, shot of her getting a film looking like a predator because I think that would be more representative. So have you, now, Chase, have you been unaware, like, have you not been watching the stream all night? I popped in here and there and I was like, oh, yeah, superhero movie. Those are really gay. I'm not going to watch that. Well, you'll see it's giving some funny glitching tisms. The wind is home away from roughing. I'm seeing that. Ain't no homo erotics in Wonder Woman movies. She's a hot, sexy lady. Yeah. There ain't no girly girls here. Look at it. Oh, this was the thing. Okay, so like I should be clicking on. Oh, no, no, no, no. You have to get the stream up for this one because you can't put movies and watch together. So Wonder Woman wants to explain to our our antagonist quote unquote that we've got we've got issues here and you're being a naughty. All right. It's going to give her some advice. So Kristen Wiig is like, no, you. And then here it goes. Gal Gadot's Oscar winning performance as she shakes her head while she delivers all of her lines. Let's count. So it was already one as we came in here. Two, three, four, five, six, seven. All right, we'll cut away from here. Eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14. They're subtle sometimes, but they're there. More another one. They're there. The subtlety of her acting is just what gives her acting. So much of its charm. You might not even notice she's acting. It's so. Yeah, you might not even notice for acting. Yeah, that's how subtle it is. This is because they told her in this scene you will be telling Kristen Wiig she is wrong about something. OK, so shake your head and disagree but with her current modus operandi. And she'll be like, very well. I shall shake my head entirely out of a loop on this. Is that it? It doesn't change anything. It is. She's on the floor. She is beaten by the villain. It almost looks like they got a like like Rosie O'Donnell in the Tarzan animated series where they got kind of like a sound alike. It looks like they got a lookalike in this scene almost. Like I can't even tell it's her. That's the point, man. She's at a low point. She's been beaten. Yeah. Shake that head out. Shake it. Shake it. The animated character in Tarzan was the lookalike for Rosie O'Donnell. No, no, the sound alike, I said. So I like your ears. Because I thought you were saying something. Woo! Also, Kristen Wiig is a far better actress than Gal Gadot there, I said it. I don't know if that's controversial, but I said it. I believe it. You could mistake this for the classic thousand-yard stair representation, or it could just be Gal Gadot wondering what am I even supposed to deliver here? I don't know. She's waiting. She's still making these movies. Her lines to be given to her from someone offscreen. She didn't rehearse this. They just give her her lines for each cut, and she memorizes them in the moment. They said, just do your model face. And she's like, that's all I know how to do. I wish she had kept shaking her head. I just can't tell what's happening in the scene if she's not doing that. So yeah, she's real sad. And I think the next sort of portion of this is the realization she's going to have to give up Steve. And I know that people were very unhappy that it was Steve that told her to do that and not her realizing that she would do it herself. That he had to be like, hey, do it, idiot. This group is assassinating her character in terms of her morality. She's now selfish, willing to murder, and a rapist, okay? Oh, and they did not like this. They did not like that she is limping and bloodied. And the white male is the one that she's relying on to stay steady. I remember seeing tweets about this. Like, this is unacceptable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is what I meant by the film didn't please anybody. It's like, we don't want to see a scene where she's like struggling to do anything. And the guy is like, hey, not only will I help you move, but you've also got to give me up for what's right, okay? You need to do that. It's like, oh. They should be thrilled with having to get rid of the white male. Well, you know, you still got another few of them in the film. Getting rid of one's not enough, right? Kill them all. Maybe through like a tornado. Get them out. Get them out. That's funny. Directly. Gal, just say hi. That's all you have to say. Hi. You can't mess this up. Gal Gadot. I don't even know, like, how would she deliver? It's like, allow. Hi. Hi. Hi. This is a joke that she's a terrible actress. She's pretty bad. It's more of an observation than a joke. Yeah, no. I was about to say it. It's not. Yeah. Like, is that a joke? We're like, it's really not a joke. It's so not a joke. It's terrible. I really wish you could. I wish it wasn't real life. But jokes are funny. And this is just that reaction image of the guy taking off the headphones. So then we find out that people discover that America has all of the, oh, it's the line. Rags, do you remember the line where the guy in the office comes in and he says it's because of our new nukes? Our new, oh yes, because we have more nukes than we used to that the worst nuclear war is going to start because that's what happens when one side gets more nukes than the other side that also has nukes is now we're now war. But yeah, I was mostly just to highlight the fact that he describes it as new nukes. New nukes. We got new nukes. New nukes. Do they teach you how to get to that will or is it just that they were there pointed at Russia? Oh, you can't point new, they're in silos. Well, yeah, maybe you can use the laser sight on the nuke. These are just fucking great distorted like, is this like a like a like a cam rip? What is this? Why is it so? No, it's VLC player. It struggles sometimes. If you pause a lot, it fucks up. If you let it play, it's fine. But you know what? That's the miracle that is VLC right now. It's getting it's enhancing the experience. Yeah. Yeah, it's alternative vision. All right. Well, what you wait? Well, South four, you just posted. We will bring it up right in line. I think we're about to get the scene, right? We're very close. Okay. Yeah, she deleted that tweet, but you've got the screen cut right there. So yeah, so we're in trouble. The end of the world is coming. So we got it. We got a ticking clock, if you will. We've got to get all the wishes renounced. All right. That's the goal, everyone. That's the plot line right now. It's terrifying. This is definitely the third act we are. We are in it. The world is falling to chaos. Look at this. Dogs and cats living together everywhere all over. Mass hysteria. Forest is eating each other. It's terrible. And so will Wonder Woman be able to save the day? Well, she can't until she gives up her man. And that's what that's pretty much the scene we're about to get. Steve explains to her that, you know, this is pretty shit. And if you don't get your powers, you know, we'll save the day. And then there's just that whimper in the background of you've also stolen a man's life. But that's fine. That's fine. One of the randoms to billions is like, also that guy isn't, you know, it's pretty fucked up that you did that. It was my friend. So there's another really big issue in regards to the wish mechanic that is kind of showing here. Is that when someone renounces their wish, it doesn't actually undo what transpired in the meat in the middle. Otherwise, she would have lost the memory of her experience with Steve, everything like that. She has just disappeared. Everything that transpired then is still in place. And this is shown in a few other points in the film as well. So that means when, you know, they renounce the wish and Max renounces his wish, the world should still be royally screwed to an epic point. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. There ain't no coming back from this one. I'm trying to find out. Sure. Okay. Whatever you say. There's also that like everything spirals out so incredibly quickly. It has like South Park vibes. You know? Yes. Agreed. Yeah, the world goes to shit and spirals out into like a world catastrophe. Well, to be honest with you, right, if zero is completely normal and 10 is the destruction of the entire universe, this film seems to crank straight to like a six or seven, but it never goes higher than that. It's like, hmm, I feel like when it should go from zero to actually 10. Yeah. If you just give everyone the ability to make wishes that come true, then the world should actually be fucked almost instantly. Yeah. They've not considered trolls. There's one guy on 4chan who's like, I wish for everyone to be combust right now. And then I wish everyone was chickens. Yep. There's going to be these people in our chat that would do that in a heartbeat. Oh, yeah. And watch the world click. And even series people who are just like, yeah, I just want everything to be over. I want everyone to die. I wish the earth just stopped existing. I wish we got hit by a meteor. But this film's like, no, things get like bad and weird and almost nuclear annihilation occurs, but nothing like, you know, insane. Yeah. And she is thoroughly in love with Steve. The scene is heartbreaking, is what humans call it, I believe. And what she's really saying is like, no, I want you to possess this person's body forever. Let's die. There must have been, let's pretend for a second, because I think it's valid, that Patty had no idea that's what she had written, and she does consider this to be a really well-constructed moment that she worked really hard on, and then someone highlights that. Then it forever destroys her work in her own mind. She's like, oh man, that is bad actually. I can't watch this scene anymore. It's like, oof. I made this. Oh my God. That would be cool to get like a director to be like, I can't even look at my own work because it's so, but like cool in the sense of admitting it. There's probably examples. I think the guy who made Terminator Dark Fate eventually said that was bad. I think Joel Schumacher apologized for Batman and Robin. Of course he shouldn't have. Yes, you're nothing to apologize for. Apparently there's like- It's not quite an apology, but David Fincher has like, renounced Alien 3 and stuff like that. Apparently Joel Schumacher has like, a commentary of Batman and Robin where he's just basically apologizing for the movie the entire runtime. But George Lucas, Fate renounced the Christmas special. No, there you go. Well, yeah, he tried to hunt down and destroy the copies. I wonder if he ever had any actual creative input on that. Was that like, was that his doing, or was that just other people making some corporate variety show product? I don't know. Someone might know. It doesn't feel like knowing, like with the prequels and stuff, that it doesn't feel like George Lucas, you know? But she does renounce Steve. He's gone now. Yes, she runs away, which conveniently means that we don't have to show on screen. What actually happens to handsome man and Steve? Does he just drop dead, or is there just a guy left there who doesn't know what the fuck's going on with his world right now? I have to imagine he just, yeah, he poofs out of it. Why am I even trying? Like, this movie doesn't, like, care. The whatever happened happened that somehow makes... This is... Yeah, our example of trying to make... They go for like, how does this more work at making sense of it? This film is trying to show us the torment she's going through, okay? Is she all like, made up in this movie, or did they go for like the strong, like naked face, like natural beauty kind of thing? Oh, it's mainly this scene that she's not... You know, because this is her low point. Give her a sec, she'll be back to the high point. Okay, gotcha. Yeah. Everything I'm seeing is just her, like, she just woke up and rolled out of bed. Look at this. These are some gems. Oh, yeah, that's a bad one. Oh, it looks bad. That's the one that I know I left at that one. She's running on VHS fuzz. She's running towards that emotional resonance, guys. Oh, they thought that looked good. I would find it. I know I will. They totally thought that looked good. She's running so fast she's breaking the stream. She just skids while... Oh, God. So... Her legs there look so weird. What's that? I said, yep. Because like, as she's sliding, as she throws the whip, her body's like sliding forward. She's not stepping. It's like she was on a... I don't know, like some kind of a slide. I mean, it looked like she had like, surgically replaced like, horse legs. I agree. I agree on canny. Well, you have the freaking people changing the avatars. Janky G-Mod legs said someone in chat. That's exactly... You look like G-Mod legs. That's it. She, I guess she attached the... Who whipped to the like, the building there, I guess. Kind of, yeah. Yeah, I guess so you can see the... I guess. It doesn't matter. She can whip lightning bolts and clouds. Wow, spoilers. Yeah, we're about to find out just how long the lasso is when everything is ready. The lasso can now extend in length to a crazy level. Also, just suddenly her floating while flying. It looks so bad. Why does it look so bad? Incredible green screen right here. You have loads of money. Everyone in the chat right now should change their avatars to be just random, unflattering screen caps. I just want to chat. Full of glitchy face screen caps just skating up. If they've been watching this stream, there are so many to choose from. Yeah. Even if it's all just the same face, I want to see that, please. This is my one new year's wish. Do this for me. Do it for Chase, Chad. Do it for Chase. No, you're gonna have to. All three of you care about my wishes. I haven't seen a game for Chase. You've got to lead by example. You've got to do it too. Okay, yeah. You've got to go and pick my favorites. But Chase's icon is already a fucked up face. Oh, that's true. See, I'm one step ahead of you. You can't choose the thing that would allow me to make the joke. It's like the monkey's. You know what, I'm one level ahead of you. Knowing that I'm gonna make fun of you is not being one step ahead of me. Yes, it is. It objectively is. You can't choose any avatars that have already been chosen. Chase, that's the rule. That is the rule. Hmm. Because, well, I guess, yeah, because Cap changed his again. So there's one back on the market, the creepy, Javi Den one. I'm just gonna choose my favorite one. It's a pretty good one. All right, yeah. So anyway, back to the movie. She attaches to an airplane. VLC is trying desperately. How far away do you think that is? How far away do you think what? Sorry. It's like an impressionist painting, honestly. I love it. How far away do you think that airplane is for the lasso to reach it from when she first... Oh, oh, just a few meters. Like at least 2,000 feet. Just a few minutes. It's fine. Because that's amazing. Oh, my God, why? They have millions. Millions. I haven't seen a green screen that looks this good since the Tech of the Clones. I haven't seen it. We were laughing our asses off when I, at least I was, I was absolutely fucking laughing my ass off while I was watching. It honestly looks like she's even sitting down while just holding it to T-posing while they just move green around her. Oh, my God. But remember, the mauler, can you do me a favor? Do me a favor and describe the justification for how she can fly now. Why do you pretend that I know the justification for why she can fly? Oh, you can do it. Come on. I can believe you. I don't remember. She can fly the first movie randomly. What is the reason? Is there a reason? Because I haven't referenced. She learned it from Steve. What? That's the justification. Well, I mean, well, no, I thought the movie was going for, like it reminds her of Steve and she thinks of Steve when she does it, but like literally learning to fly from that. Is it something he said? Like, surely not. Wait, does she doesn't fly in the first one, does she? No. I thought she just jumped really high. She jumped really high. No, there is one moment where she's flying in the first film for sure, but I think it's a mistake. Like it's not supposed to be. It's when Ares lifts the floor from above her and she like jumps and then there's like people in the foreground dealing with something and you can see her in the background for a good like five seconds. She's just floating in midair with Ares and it's like, wait. I could be misremembering, but I thought that in this movie, during the scene we're watching right now, there's some like a voiceover of Steve talking about flying. Oh, it could be. And it's like, I might not remember. Yeah. I don't think they... I... Is it like you just gotta believe? Is it like you just gotta believe sort of thing? Is that it? Yeah, honestly, I think it is. Pretty sure that there is a voiceover. To be able to fly, basically. Because what she's doing is basically flying the way that she moves. It's basically flying. Shea does not want to give up on the point of how far away that airplane is. Yeah. I'm with you, Shad. She ever tries to whip anything and it's out of range now? This is totally contradicted by what we see with her last time in that airplane. Shad, that's a long way. It's just a small plane. I will draw it in meters for you so you guys understand. That is so far away. Shad has to measure it in time. There you go. Each red line represents one meter. I am a statistician. I know that that's true. That's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 meters. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it's not too far. It's a small plane. One passenger plane, you lie down in it. 2021 has different measurement systems than 2020 does. I love that I go back to the VLC and it's just like the four-eyed queen of the space. Someone sent me this. Oh, I get it. I'm going to need some elaboration on that one. Because the rape. Yeah, these convicted rapists. No, yeah. No, that part I get. But like that's all there is context earlier in the movie. Oh, Wonder Woman's a rapist. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, they're the thing where it's like someone stole someone else's body. I caught that on Twitter. But that's all I know. That's all he need to know. Really? It's Wonder Woman wishes for Steve to be back. And so the way that the writers and their infinite wisdom, the way that they decided to have this manifest in the movie as a fulfilled wish, is that a random person, essentially, is just they have their mind, their mind disappears, and Steve's mind replaces it. Well, Chase, that's it. Kind of some black mirrorship. Yeah, dystopian for sure. Well, I think it's important. You understand that this is a moment. He's having a moment. Also, I want to ask you guys, have you guys seen Louis C.K.'s newest stand-up special? Sincerely, I think it's called. It's only a few weeks old. Yeah, I loved it. Wait, is this the one that's on his website? Yeah, you can only get on his website. I paid eight dollars. Yeah, it's pretty good. Anyway, if anyone wants to see it, let me know. It's pretty funny. It's so funny. I enjoyed the shit out of it. I really missed the show, Louis. I really went it back. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. Yeah, he's not going anywhere, though, luckily. I mean, kind of in a rut, but I'm glad he's back. He's better than ever, in my opinion. No one cares about Louis C.K. No one cares about you, fucker. Louis C.K.'s fucking you. He's very funny. He's good. His style is just so awkward and bumbling, but very coherent. It's really hard to articulate, but I enjoyed the shit out of his his his bits. Metal! Metal! Metal! Metal! Metal, baby. Metal! Metal! Metal! Metal, metal, metal, metal, metal, metal. Metal, metal, metal, metal, metal, metal. Metal, give us some kisses. Metal, metal, metal, metal, metal. How'd you shut up, nerd? Okay, don't be... Oh, my God. Metal, you need to scroll up and find yourself a face to attach to your avatar. We draw the line here on EFAP with homosinuality. Yes. So you must change? Too much work. I don't even have a mouse right now. Oh, my God. You're the laziest. Everyone was outraged that you weren't here to rip on women with us. I was pretty upset. Wondrous women. Yeah, a lot of golden opportunities. I got mine out of the way pretty early, but they're there, they're there. Yeah. There was talk of Germans in the chat really wanted you here, Metal. I'm, I will see you, I will see you all the time. And not the plan. Very kind. You should pull up the stream, Metal. I think right now we're at a point strong representation as an image of this movie. How it is captured. Boiled into one image, yes. Oh, that's, that's some pixels. Call beauty. You wouldn't understand. I would rate people too, it wouldn't look like that. No, you'd have to. When you have that level of privilege, yeah. It's like you get into the Galithar levels, I think that's what we all call it. Oh, my God. Yeah. My friendos are sleeping in the living room, so I grabbed my laptop because I'm not tired and poured another drink and thought I'll come by and say hello. That's a spirit. Yeah, we've had an all-star New Year's Eve. We've traded out all kinds of guests. I think. I mean, now it's an all-star one. We had nine at one point. Did we have 10 at any point? I don't think we did. We never actually hit 10. Amazing. We avoided it. If, yeah, that is kind of amazing that we haven't had that many. EFAP is, after all, known for its incredible restraint. So that is the line with what we're all about. We're a highly respectable group of gents. Yeah, we are. We don't want to hit the catty. Not as bad as ever been said about us. Yeah, no, exactly. Have we covered the donkey shit yet, by the way? Or is that what we have? No, we haven't. If we can get through this movie. Yeah, we did. First thing we did, you missed it. What a shame. Hot. If we can get through this movie, we will then do that coverage, and then that'll probably be the end. Because I'm not sure I'll be alive at that point. You're vegetables. We'll talk about donkey. So I've been visiting this time. I don't know what you guys are going to do. Mom! I'm just going through the movie right now. Yes, we are, Madal. What's your problem? You smell that. The great Gatsby is in public domain. Come the first. Ooh. So interesting. Interesting. Come the first. In two years, Brave New World will be in the public domain. That's probably the best. Is everyone in a new year by now, by the way? I don't know what the time zones are. Yeah. So it's about a little less than an hour for the East Coast here in the good old US of A. So I just want to let the fact that Capitol O and I have the same picture, and we're like both cut off on one half. Two halves of a whole. There you go. So no one misses out. Thanks, Marge. Madal, you still have to change your avatar. It's your one job. Go scroll through the history of this conversation and find a face. Someone just DMed me a thing. I should. Oh my God. Yeah, I'm going to use that one. Do I have a green card on here? I don't have my usual tools in here. This is just snipping to a bucket. Southwell, this is a correct response to what he's just said. No. You were supposed to say your garbage who kills for money. That was the correct answer. Southwell, I'm sorry. Damn. Oh, OK. I'm sorry. You got to get your kills for money. What was that? Was that Sylvester Stallone? Obviously. God. Sylvester Stallone Batman. Here's my here's my here's my Sylvester Stallone impression. All right. All right. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. You've done the stroke before. You've done it. You've done it. You've done it. You've done it. You've done it. Hey, hey, hey. You think that's pretty good? That was pretty good. It was like. I think it was. Incredibly insensitive. Also, there you go. I have changed my avatar. Hey, Adam Boyd. Is that Kristen Wick? I think so. It's beautiful. We'll never know for sure. Thanks for Wolfie666 sending me this per diem. Like right on time. Beautiful. So, yeah. I guess to go back to the film. T-posing naturally. It's becoming more and more popular in media, I find. It sits down. Oh, you mean the new flying technique that they invented? Yeah. It's very aerodynamic. I know to move around things a bunch. I only have one. So, just to share some thoughts on her flying now, right, is what I'm saying where she's basically a wizard. Where if she really needs to do something, she can just figure it out. Invisibility? Sure. Flying, like. Where was it implied that she could fly? Was she given a magic item that enabled it? She could just do it because reasons, right? She can lasso lightning itself. Because reasons, exactly. Do you guys remember another movie that's a part of a giant universe of million-dollar movies where a female hero randomly learns to fly? Have you kept a model? Because she can. It's weird. They just hit all of those fucking beats where they just don't do anything. I can fly, I guess. I really don't understand why they mess so many female superheroes up. It shouldn't really be that hard, honestly. You'd think, but you know. They'll get there one day. I don't know what it is, but I feel like a lot of female superheroes are better in movies with a bunch of other characters than they are in standalone movies. So, how exactly does lassoing a cloud? I don't know what's happening here. She spins it up. It's like a little helicopter blades and then she fires it forward and then pulls on it. I don't know why that does that. It does that, though. She grabs a cloud. She grabs a cloud. Justification or explanation that they when Chris Pine says something, they're like, oh, it's easy. You just have to grab the air or some stupid shit. Yeah, there's some voiceover. I don't know what it is. I can't remember. Listen, I'm a couple of drinks in here. Don't quote me on that. But, you know, that you're having the truth being a couple of drinks in or Oh, no, you can't quote me on that one. No, I'm going to quote you no matter what you do. Dude, Rex, Rex, I've been playing seven days at this point. Chad and I are going to have to do it too. Right. I mean, metal had a thought, but Mahler cut them off. So I'll never know what metal was thinking. Can you trust me specifically? Wait, Mel's still here? No, I just just wanted to let you know that I've been playing seven days at this point. Clearly, Christian Wigg. Again. Yeah, it looks good. Identify yourself. I'm hoping you're enjoying it. It's an odd experience, but I hope you really do enjoy it. It is definitely the game equivalent of more value than the sum of its parts. True. Yeah, from playing with my mates here. That's pretty good. A while ago or more. It's fine. I'm just talking. You don't need to. Yeah. I hope you both enjoy it. It's a good co-op game. It's a good co-op game. Yeah. We played like a while back for a couple of hours and was like, okay, that's all right. And then we played against like, they proved a lot. So that was pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. A lot. It is, it is, it is unrecognizable from what it used to be when it started out. It was block based. Yeah. And there was, it was insanely different. So it's changed a lot. You know, it came out the same week as Daisy. Really? Yeah. Oh, I thought that was a question. I remember I played it back when it first came out like within the first week and I was like, this is really something. And it was barely functional, but I was having a great time with it. Yeah, they changed a lot. They have indeed. And appreciate it. Someone in my discord saw that my avatar changed and they're like, oh, you must be on eFap. Yeah. You can change it. I'm glad that you're, I'm glad you're changing your icon for us. Yeah. It's a lot to, it's a lot to ask for, of somebody. And I'm glad you did it. It's actually a surprising amount of effort. I'm very overweight. Yeah, there is. Yeah. If it means a lot to have people who are here on eFap changing their icons. I don't, I don't appreciate your kind of a complete set. That would be a, that's a really, it's really quite the display. I feel like you're mocking my disability of being morbidly appreciate it one bit, sir. It's extremely. You have to have bees on your hands. Yeah. The flat, the flap that, that hangs from my, underneath my elbow, just the motion of the mouse. I like you. Biggest. Pat your arm to pivot on to control your mouse. I appreciate that discord was like, you sure you want this to be your avatar? I'm like, yes. It's like, whoa, whoa. So, Shad, Shad, you're the other one left now. Unfortunately, I will need a head out. Two things. First of all, it's like, it's weird about her flying thing, just because she seems to need to hook on to things. But then later, she legitimately changes her trajectory in her flight through force of will. So she can, she, when people say that she can only fly by using a lasso, no, she can legitimately fly through her own will, redirecting her, you know, direction. So that's, that's a thing. I wish I could have stayed for the last fight because that is, that's amazing. Right. So I'll post this image here because I think this image encapsulates the quality of fight, this entanglement. That's, that's the same thing. And I'd really like lags to kind of comment on this when the fight comes up. You know what I mean? Yeah. I hope that point rags and, and share your thoughts on it because that this, this part, Oh, the screen show, I guess. The screen show. Look, we'll get there. We will get there. We'll get the point, you guys. That's great. It's like when, it's like when you don't have enough, like ram and you're, and you try to do too many things at once. Whenever I look at a screen shot like that, that's sort of what my brain does. Yes. And my brain has to plan out what its future thoughts will be. I like the idea, by the way, that Shad has to defeat these ghouls in this coal. These are all the creatures that are coming for him. Heavily remembered. Yeah. It's like a bad dream. He's taken some more of our products. Also, it's kind of hard for Shad to see, but I love that opinions is avatar of that particular frame of her face almost looks like the really shitty like deal with it. Sunglasses meme, just sort of it almost looks like it's so much picture. Yeah. I mean, yeah. One of the eyes is like three eyes. Terrifying. It's like splintering. Yeah. Thank you so much for hanging out for so long, Shad. It's been fun. I mean, Hey, Shad, I like your stuff. Keep it up. You know what capital of avatar actually reminds me of is Tay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Also to counter to counter the flattery, Shad. I have no idea who you are. Have you seen this anyway? Yeah. Yeah. Have you? Have you? Have you? Have you? Have you? Have you? Have you? Have you? Have you? Have you? Have you? Have you? Have you? Have you? Have you? Have you? Have you? What is this shit? That was hilarious. He was trying like, you're going to give him like a counter that he's like, okay, bye. He's like, oh, man. Yeah, he kind of vaguely hurt him. He's like, how could you say that? Also, Rags, did you catch what was happening to Shad throughout this whole stream is what often happens to you where for some reason everyone has priority of a Shad. So it just blocks him out whenever he tries to talk. Has it been happening to me this stream? No. What I was saying is it happened to you before and you you picked it up on one of them. Yeah. I don't know what it is. Discord. First off, no one should ever have a priority over me when we're speaking. Secondly, it seems to be extra bad when we're watching something like when you're streaming a game or when we're watching something. It tends to be really bad. I'm always doing that. Or certainly worse. In the eFap we did, the wet bread eFap as it's called now. My voice would just It's got nothing to do with the game. It would just go up. It's happening. It's actually happening right now to you. If Rags, if you start talking and then anyone in this call says anything, it like it fucks you up completely. Do you guys actually not know what it is? No. No, I have no clue. But yeah, if any it was happening to Shad. I mean, I don't really have a chance to impart wisdom. All right. Do that. But yeah, it's not. It's really funny. So I'm not gonna say anything. Well, it's just it's just It's just very entertaining. It was happening to Shad and it happens to Rags. I don't think it's applying to anyone else in this call because if Chase and I speak at the same time, you can almost make out which one. What both of us are saying at the same time. If you listen to that particular voice or whatever reason, it seems to be I've only noticed it with me, but watching back streams. Yeah, multiple people are talking or if there's a start and stop, then people always just goes when it just goes away, basically. It used to happen to me when we were playing like among us, and I got really frustrated and I looked up that my settings and I realized what it was and I fixed it. And now I can talk over everyone who hasn't gained this knowledge. It's oh my god. Well, someone mentioned priority speaker, but the problem is everyone has priority except Rags and today Shad too. Shad was getting shot on whenever he spoke at the same time as someone else. It just like breaks them up. It's like the opposite of priority speaker where you can choose to be the least prioritized or something like that. Cuck speaker. Cuck speaker, yeah. Also, I really do appreciate these avatars. That's some good shit. Yeah, it's good. We've got a good theme going. It's terrifying for anyone who joins this stream. They'll just be like, what the fuck? If anyone new joins, we all have to be like, just make them think of being attacked by a mob of ghouls. Or a message. I looked at the YouTube stream. I was like, I don't even know who's on right now. Like, I don't know. Yeah, because we all have Shad and then people. The stream yard thing. It has a bunch of super mutants. It has labels. The discord does not have labels. You have to go from avatars. So now everyone's very scared if they join this stream. I feel like each of these have very strong characters, too, if you look at them closely. Caps is so angry. Chase's one is like this. I think it's redeemable. It looks a bit scared of what it's become. Mine is one of the leaders of the tribe. It has a set of zombies that it controls. It's like a goddess because of the tier. Yeah, it's the most refined looking one. Then metals is one of the lame ones no one really cares about. You're for like 20 minutes and I'm already it's not too bad. Rax's looks like a boss. Like it would crack open and consume you. It's like a God of War mini boss creature. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like El Higan or something. And then South Pole is like some kind of invisible man type traveling dimensions creature. It looks like virus infected Chris Reagan kind of. Oh yeah. So we got a whole team here and they joined together like the Avengers at one point for some reason. Our battle cry is kill me. Honestly, if there is a movie that's worthy of doing something like this with the deep pride avatars it's this movie. Oh yeah, this movie. Pretty hard about the word. So another thing that happens in this movie a lot is scenes that go on too long. And so while we talk I'm just going to play this scene and hopefully it'll end. She flies a lot. Yeah, by the way. She flies for a really god damn long time. There's amazing music that plays during the scene. Right. It's not amazing. So I think it's mentioned already that he's supposed to be set in this scene. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the movie Sunshine which came out a while ago. I saw it on release and I thought Sunshine was neat. I would need to see it again. There's a moment in that film where a character kicks the bucket and the scene is pretty intense and it relates to the sun. And there's a song that plays called Adagio in D Minor. And once it was played in that movie it got very popular and started popping up in all kinds of things. Not just trailers and scenes in movies and TV shows but just fucking I don't know on the radio I guess. It was everywhere. I was pointed this out too, didn't he? Oh, well so it was definitely in Walking Dead so I think that's where he would have picked it up at least from there as well. It's in loads of things. There's a list on Wikipedia. Yeah, if anyone's intimately acquainted with YMS's content find the timestamp where he talks about that one of his movies because he showed like 10 movies that did it. It was really, really well executed. Fucking cringe worthy. But whatever happens you know when you do stuff like this however good a song is if you play it everywhere all the time it becomes a song everyone hates because that's just how it works. Yep. And then I put out a tweet shitting on this movie and one of the things I said is they played Adagio and D-Miner for one of the biggest emotional payoffs in the movie shit was distractingly funny and a response I got I don't know if person is troll before I read this. They said that was stuff acting like you know about classical music and high art. It's cringy. You are an intellectual. That's like the most important thing. You little idiot. Hello. What? You said I feel. Rags do you feel? No. It's like when you're younger and you find a word that you like. Like for me it was like relinquish is an interestingly distinct word and you use it and the person feels threatened by you saying it because they don't know what it is and they feel like you're flexing superiority over them and they just go you think you're fucking smarter than me don't you? It's like it's not like it's not rocket science. You must refrain from using the large words. And here's the thing if you recognize the piece of music then clearly you do know enough to be talking about it. Like I mean I didn't recognize it. I mean like dare I say or something? Well it refers to the tempo. That's a Italian word I believe for tempo it's being performed at. But like clearly you recognize the piece of music and you're like this is an everything it's funny because it's in everything. And they're like what do you think you know classical music? Little bitch. It's a really bizarre reaction. You mentioned you mentioned minor key you fucking cunt. And I find it fabulous because it's uh it's her moment in this film she's made the hard choice and she's coming through and this is her rising up to defeat you know whatever's going to come next and they were like I don't know the fucking music from that thing everyone likes I guess it's like wow you didn't care. I don't know it's like it's like a sad part of a movie using Mad World like from Donnie Darko like it's just not it'd be so it's like it's ironically funny it's not you can't take it seriously anymore it's used so many times So anyway they teamed up quickly one of my friends linked me to it was actually about it was Breathe Me by Sia and YMS covered it in his cyber bully part two of two video I don't know if you wanted to share it but I'll post it in chat in relation to the adagio thing oh just like shitty music oh is that where he he shows the montage of yeah yeah music being used yeah well hang on to it because we got we're gonna have a bit of a watch together session soon ish we'll get to the end of this movie so we'll do that then just remind me so our bad guy is like you know what I don't even just like being like Diana I want to be number one and better and and our Max is like yeah okay whatever fine just don't let me get killed by Wonder Woman I guess and honestly if you'd ask me what happens next but isn't it just the final bit what what else does happen next it's like a half an hour of movie I don't understand oh there's a the the fight at the where did the fuck did they even go it's like some island where they have how does Wonder Woman find them I have no idea you know I have no when you reach the idea when you reach this point in the movie I think it's it's time he would be like it doesn't matter I passed that point a long time ago rags is it why is he rags so no rags say something rags roogs roogs say something what we're saved you sounded like you were gonna say something earlier and then you never said anything and it sounded like the same thing happened again you sound like I feel and then it cut you off yeah all right all right rags do you think you changed the sensitivity and now it's fucked him has always happened this is decidedly an improvement am I right chat I don't know oh my god just saying I'm not much better this is some amazing ggds I'm seeing here um wait a minute southpaw what does this mean I'm on the stand well hello is that a gamergate joke oh we hear you now yeah yeah rags yep rags he's just he's giving us the long con again I don't know what's happening this is like the wet bread stream where he's like metal I can only hear you it's just that again he's getting good at this oh I remember that yeah well I I don't know this is like a three minute what no see yeah he's fucking doing it again I see this mic activating you you coy bitch I'm onto you what is happening are you saying it's time to start arguing about dating advice it almost it almost sounds like a rags soundboard like he's pressing um actually I think I feel no well I don't know what what yeah like that sounded like he was smiling when he said the what so yeah Monty rags I think you're you can't you can't trick me with that avatar you may make me laugh but no I he's getting better enjoying this is more time passing no it's because it's fun because it's it's way better than Water Woman 1984 this is the movie right here what I was like the thing I hate really the thing about the jews is it oh no you can if you look at my avatars and get increasingly angry they can't understand the message coming from rags just like what are you saying rags send us a message via a Ouija board rags say a complete sentence rungo just to show that you can do it can you hear me now yes well yes that's cool well whatever whatever did what it did I unplugged and re-plugged the microphone on the microphone plug that seems to have done it honestly yeah well it was a trip in the meantime we did it yeah I can hear everybody apparently I was only coming through selectively yes that was really weird I don't know what happened there glad we're glad you're back though I am yes it's always good to be back yeah so what are we talking about well we're at the climax we got through the power of this whatever system max can touch everyone in the world and thus grant them their wishes you know when you're at the finale you just give up on the writing you're like it just works this way shut up but you're like all right all right I mean in that sense it's pretty true to form to the last movie yeah they go but wait is the audience going to notice this plot hole and they got not a fucking retard it's like who the fuck is come on this wish this wishing mechanics no okay it was soon down an hour and a half ago I mean hey there's podcast being broadcast over a tv that's totally equivalent to actually holding a person's hands and sometimes make a wish yes show me the same thing anyone who questions that is probably a bigot I'd say he's like oh everyone is like well it's like a metaphorical touching it's really touching and we establish that they have to be physically touching you it's very important so clearly this won't work based on the rules that they've set up but I mean in a sense Wonder Woman 84 has touched all of us in a way yeah it's about touching your heart metaphorically yes I wouldn't want that to be taken literally um so this lady right here she says I wish I was famous or I wish to be famous and suddenly look at these people they're all like oh my god it's you you're the person ah and she's like oh my god the world is changing for me ah what do you want to get here at your restaurant we want to have noodles too ha ha yes we do she's like I know it's ever been this interested in my noodles before I am very suspicious also did she button your shirt wrong um stupid bitch let's have a look oh like did she like the way that it's buttoned is one of them too high or are they no I think they're good I think it's okay yeah I think it's just cringey that would have been a good detail to show that she is she's struggling her job that would have been a hot thing for an asian to miss um oh my god that would have been a pivotal detail you know vlc is upset that we've chosen all of our avatars like I can make more creepy faces and it's like you can try oh my god face melted so yeah so this this kind of highlights the issue now so the world is wishing and and success it's like this one person has wished that she's famous and this is going to affect a huge amount of people in the vicinity of her and this is just one example if you have one person wishing for world scale stuff one out of the many people on earth um this is going to be catastrophic for wonder woman's chances of saving the day so uh that's true also to mention I don't know if we mentioned it in this stream coverage of the videos but what if people make two people make wishes that are contradictory what happens oh oh we talked about this in the recording they just cancel each other out and whoever wishes for that thing in higher numbers they are the ones who get the wish it's like a team effort I guess so may I present the idea that one person says I wish to be dead and so on I wish you were alive and then it just zooms out and the world explodes just it's too much um so yeah for people watching this is I wish you'd go back where you came from and the other one says I wish you were dead I think she falls over dead and the guy I think is he British and he ends up back in an area where British things are happening yeah it's it's weird the film thinks it's cute to just show a couple of examples of wishes coming true I guess and of course the main message is going to be all these people are going to regret the wishes that they are wishing for and they need to accept reality for the way that it is I think it was a beautiful message if you don't like it you need to do something oh look at this guy I wish to be king I wish we had nuclear weapons oh she's still flying by the way this is this is still the portion of the movie where she's still flying I like how we're now posting funny images that aren't even glitches we're back to that getting to the point where we're so sick of this damn movie looking for any escape yeah I was going to say by the way yeah it's okay oh here we go well the the lighting bolts I was going to say we're getting close to the end so finish line is in view guys we'll be okay Wonder Woman needs to travel faster all right that's important she's going to get to her goal she's able to there's no rockets anywhere no none not even a single RPG no RPG anywhere up here I'm curious about again no answer for how she knows where to go I thought we did but I guess we don't now you cut off for a bit what's that did she have like where is she going right now I believe she's going to get her suit she's got to get her golden suit so she's going to the island broadcast place the very confusing thing is that she needs to go get her golden suit first and then go to where Max Lord is broadcasting everything from but I don't know how she knows where Max Lord is broadcasting everything from yes that's it she overheard it while she was in the White House at some point I I literally have no idea so they thought it was really cool to have her I guess attach the lasso of truth to lightning strikes what the hell you bet your asshole she does this is so to recap rule of cool yes she has used her lasso to like take to hitch a ride on an airplane an rpg and the lightning and the clouds and bullets and bullets and I guess there is there anything that she cannot do I she's a woman so no she is literally writing the lightning I'm a woman she does indeed return to get her suit now the stakes are ramping up will suited wonder woman with her returned powers be able to defeat cheetah at full power like no because it sucks apparently oh shit okay I was on board with letting the chat discover the truth but you had to ruin it big old Dumbledorf I'm okay with this hey that's a medic for this movie I was gonna say they're probably okay with it so yeah he points at cheetah and gives her what she wanted which was power but she also specified apex predators they made her a cheetah but that doesn't make any sense unfortunately yes a number of people pointed out that cheetahs are not apex predator exactly there is no portion of the world in which they are not beaten out by something yes so let's get an apex predator let's see what examples we get let's look at some apex predator the gerbil the lion is an apex predator the tiger is probably an apex predator oh let's uh let me get a little list here uh so the mosquito yes it is the wampus the wampus bear the wampus the wombo he's the he's the worst of them all the wampus they're uh they're endangered but they're still on the apex you know what I think I think that dingoes are apex predators neat interesting sorry do you say dingoes dingoes dingoes dingoes dingoes we're all the australians yeah well the fuck is fringy he could have talked with us all day if he wondered we need some fucking representation in here god damn bear it's sort of about the emos the emus so emos the emos see those emos in hot topic all the time it's fucking all to go grizzly bear hippos hillary clinton spott there's a couple of examples crocodile hillary clinton is an apex predator his soul consumption is terrifying um Bill Crosby possibly hillary clinton spits green eggs at her opponents yes they went with you know there's so many correct options and they just they fucked it up wait it's it's backward they should have just come up with a different reason for here to be cheated because that's obviously what they were adapting but they were like hey apex predator that's enough right and it's like no people in chatter saying odyssey on is an apex printer prince andrew sam squash joel priepstee joel true joel yeah kevin spacey naturally yeah saltwater crocodile the great to hope a movie bob harvey wainz dina he eats every one he corners in an alleyway oh no first time for your end your bloodline must be stopped i said i'll just add butter and your perfect buckets of food what are we not buckets where were you we're like i don't know for margarine the length makes me come with a length he's raptibly says buckets of food you don't know why it's involved in everything before he murders you he has to like put some fucking accoutrements on you he's like let me get my pepper grinder has to have it in my bucket of mustard oh god she tricked us my favorite no what kind of mustard this is very important now i mean i like mustard as much as the next guy but a bucket whole but like like gijon honey mustard like standard mustard whole but most mustard enjoy your fancy mustard mixed oppressions mustard or something pismins pismins yeah pismin and eric yeah pismins mustard yeah yeah just i i looked up type of mustard and this is so appropriate this is so appropriate for the film let's hear it but this is what popped up yeah oh yeah no that's real that's a real plant the rape the rapeseed the rapeseed the rapeseed yellow flowering the color of the family brassy i wanted to say brassy rape but i was like you know maybe that's just pushing the joke too far cultivated in lutella where it's oil rich in lutella makes it the most naturally contains appreciable amounts of oh you were just i don't know if you're allowed to say that we get demonetized the term rapes drives from the latin word for the heronip rappa or rape uh uh rappa or rap put up c cognate with the lower classifications of rapeseed rape one notch below rapeseed it's around there there's a whole field of rape don't go out there you don't want to know what's gonna happen to you yeah they're just playing small oh no suddenly rapeseed so some rape culture here wonder woman approaches this island for reasons and they deliver an onslaught upon her without even possibly knowing it's even they don't even know what this is they're just shooting at it yeah um of course she's immune what is this okay so hypothetically this is a secret military broadcasting base I guess and practically war time is trying to come at it they probably think it's a missile and they're trying to shoot it down see it rack it survives these salvos because she can't change your direction in midair all right if they're ready oh so this is awesome she's wearing a golden suit golden wings goldenness fucking cool she breaches the island oh i look so bad oh she just sort of flies in awkwardly yeah she comes in like a flying monkey from uh Wizard of Oz maybe that was the reference I've heard that this film does a lot of references that not many people pick up because it's so bad it's it's it's it was an homage how very inspired yeah she flies in like the flying monkeys takes out the guards never takes a shot I guess she's proper bullet proof now except for her face in her hands except the grenades done don't even she still does the stupid braces thing whatever oh she blocked that one bullet with a super move damn shot two are they gonna show two because he clearly shot two yeah the other one's fine oh it's on me to distract too much from the intense fight that's going on right now but I love the idea that people are gonna take clips of us talking about this movie trying to frame us as like terrible like racist people and you're just gonna see the icons at the bottom yeah the icons will make it hard these evil people I mean we look more evil than usual super mutants yeah like my to be fair I don't know many people who actually like this movie okay I don't either honestly probably people likes it it's like the idea that there are gonna be people clutching their fucking pearls like look at these super mutants complaining about wonder woman does high top still like this movie or is he backtracked on that because I know he went he went from saying it's wonderful to kind of wonderful that's in yeah it's gonna say give it time high top you'll discover what this movie was actually about it's about rapeseeds I mean I've never never read any wonder woman comics but what is the whole golden eagle imagery have to do with wonder woman it's actually not the image yeah does anyone know what that has to do with wonder woman at all like the whole weird golden eagle thing she has going on no idea wonder woman despises the concept of racial harmony that's it oh and of course this is the the great moment the great reveal so we've had our hero introduction now we need our villain reintroduction um oh god oh wait so the top top four of the dceu has a wonder woman it's shazam wonder woman birds of prey and wonder woman 84 holy shit you know the problem though some pickens there I don't know what the correct answer is that could be the top four but they're all awful I don't know what the right like I said don't know what the correct answer is honestly I'm top four if we stick to like bvs suicide squad like that sort of thing I'm happy to say at the top oh but still shit holy hell still just because I've seen I've granted I've only seen two of these I've only heard bad things about shazam from people I trust and I've only heard bad things about birds of prey from people I trust but I've seen the two wonder women's and they're atrociously bad these can't be the top four how do people who like do this for a living how could they be so wrong about movies dude there are people who think the DCU is always amazing the most memorable thing about shazam for me was the fact that all those weird gargoyle things in the meeting room scene they're all voiced by like anime voice actors and I was like oh james and price voice is one of those gargoyles only you would say that about that scene where a gobbling needs a man's head they're my people I got yeah just a bunch of anime voices being like I am satanic gargoyle man and I was like very nice he's like is this is this actually is this supposed to be some really deep meta joke about how shitty the dceu is that he's for I think it might be yes not intentionally but yeah so sophistic autistic just pinged me and asked are you excited that cinema wins will defend the rape scene in the wonder room in 84 oh i want to feel skip this one very well he's still skip Toy Story 4 which is surprising to me you would think that he'd make a video about that video but already but no that's definitely a people suspicious sort of face to give to that it's like you avoiding it you avoiding it be honest like you made it as a skywalker but you can't make one on Toy Story 4 what's the deal with that buddy come on so anyway cheetah is revealed to the world in all of her CGI glory um ew I believe she didn't even didn't she look different in the first sort of reveal of this in trailers there's more orangey I think but um yeah you think maybe if you keep her in the dock avoid everything to do with it he might be all right but they didn't do that like one of the the ghosty boys from uh gamma thrones though the the ice wizards yeah um you know I I guess I could see the connection but I uh I mean I find I find her a little you know white hair and they're just standing ominously against the well I'm looking at the picture you posted and chatting up the one on the screen so yeah so you see what I mean like it's just staring down at you from a far away place with it I can I can see the connection yes oh god you'll see look yeah but anyway she's super powerful now and she wants to beat the fuck out of wonder woman naturally so she jumps around with some pylons um this this fight I don't know I guess we'll just try and find things to comment on it's pretty bad uh they just like hit each other until her wings break what I remember anyway which is going to be awkward for your uh wings up until they get fucked up and then she isn't that kind of like a wow way to go wonder woman that's something that has been incredibly important to your people for their entire existence those wings mean a lot but okay yeah you have in 10 minutes you fuck it up by the way I guess in case I haven't mentioned it before I don't think they ever talk about her going home ever yeah I think you brought it up a little bit before but we don't know that she's ever gone back we actually ask it in the uh recording for the first film like does she ever go back I don't know interesting yeah I guess they will talk about it if they they they give it the old rape treatment and they just don't talk about it and uh hope people don't notice maybe God the glitching is going out of control I think VLC just wants to protect me from seeing this scene which is fair oh my god or it wants to make sure you're consistently entertained um yeah it's just really awkward CGI bouncing around until all the wings fall off and I'm just kind of just trying to reach that point she's a just trying to punch and claw that's kind of the only thing she does this is some pretty sex predator style yeah ah there's a spin punch claw spin punch claw spin claw spot so cool fun clench paw fun clench paw yeah I think I used to put those pieces of metal like that around my house in Florida to protect us from the the tornadoes I think it looks like cheap brass that you just make like candlesticks out of yeah out of and things yeah it that's it looks it looks too like glossy and cheap I think that's the issue and something we need Chad for this I don't know that he would he's just it's just so horrible yeah he can compare the apex claw punch spin action of the the predator here to the the fly shield wings of Wonder Woman see she just does tearing pieces off it's like how do you even okay I guess Paul Gal Gadot she doesn't know what's going on I have this trailer and I've been a lot of people who are excited for this like yeah we're going to see your fight with her wings is going to be so cool and then it's in the film for three minutes if that and it just gets knocked off by some cat lady and after we already suffered through cats we haven't actually suffered through that but the world did that which is the issue wow she's really just just acting hot out in the scene the struggle so these pictures are all full of crust crust it's a really good way to put it yes I agree yeah we're just kind of waiting for her to pour well she pulls enough of the wings off that it convinces Wonder Woman to just drop the wings it's kind of strange someone told me to tell John the order or the origin of the golden armor is basically that there is a dimension river that leaks into the mainline universe and since it came from a different universe it found its way into the mainline universe where the eagle armor was created by an amazon tell john that please so hopefully no more all of your inquiries see she she drops the wings like a cool move it's like oh that was your armor okay but hey maybe if she looks hot it's fine right exactly maybe she should drop parts of the wings and then use her lasso to grab them and throw them at the cat lady one at a time oh yeah and they just pelt her and go through her and blood just goes everywhere what the fuck is wrong with you stop stop it right now yeah well chase you know when it comes to the preference for faces do you want south border switch to that yeah actually actually I do I'm chasing my avatars too fast let me go to arches cats oh god that raised eye is very distiming I like to imagine the lore of self while having that avatar and rags as wonder woman being like now this is intriguing to me happily instead of raising an eyebrow she raises the whole eye it just just goes raises one half of her face and you know what hog champ it doesn't even take away from the quality of the scene if anything it adds to it mm-hmm uh so yeah one of them was like don't be evil and she's like nah evil's pretty cool this is obviously a very accurate retelling of this scene it's not that I'm running out of edgy or anything is that sure and so she's like I don't want to renounce my powers I like being a cheetah it's like yeah it's pretty that's fair and so they fight really epic she jumps medals trying to be a party pooper because this is clearly epic as hell this is very cool look at the incredible empowerment happening on screen no it's poopy every second your eyes and brain are being pelted mercilessly by 24 individual frames of incredible female empowerment I want to just dive want to watch this my nipples are getting really erect just watching this yeah yeah yeah they're what else having the same yeah your nipples getting erect what's wrong with you yeah yours aren't my nipples are all right no okay chat how your nipples are you okay they're they're okay but then again I have more nipples I guess as a dog I have more nipples that is true it's a wrap yeah so then they both start swinging around on their respective wires until they tangle and that's where they they shat clearly visibly wanted to that's where shat screenshot comes from it's some the word is intense I think pretty intense intense is the word I'm looking for I think is a bit of a scissoring happening looking tell very intense battle it is unclear who is winning this battle you know you just it's very dark on purpose so it keeps it really intense and it also thematically very dark you just yes it's a it is a creative decision that is used to accent the incredible glowy goldeness of the magic lasso just watching as the light lasso highlights her like face when it's close to it physics in this film is so hilarious for you there's constant shifts of force like momentum and gravity are just changing between cuts all the time whatever they need what is this oh my goodness might actually be worse than Venom's final fight this is the face of horror as Wonder Woman realizes she might lose this fight blow that up emotion blur it further think around on on electric wires and magic lassos like this is a fucking Cirque du Soleil death match yeah spider-man now um yeah I was getting big Cirque du Soleil oh my god do you remember when they spin for no reason yes oh look at it it's burlesque shit here it's a very it just breaks the thing she was attached to I guess that's unfortunate yeah it spins it right off this fight is just when you were like question marks shouldn't they've been going up while this was spinning because the thing gets shorter when you spin no okay I'm glad we had that conversation so this part's interesting Wonder Woman grabs her and they know there's a source of electric that is getting closer and closer to the water and so she's like renounce your wish and the electric's coming closer and closer and this this that would be you're a normal human so she definitely died that's where I was going with that I don't understand why you would renounce your wish why the fuck would you do that at this moment it's crazy like you you just kill yourself and of course Wonder Woman is immune um it's very hard to tell what Wonder Woman can be hurt by and can't be hurt by German bullets seem to be one of the biggest things that can hurt her electricity less get wrecked I was going to say Mel can you explain that what's the law there it's Nazi bullets they're better they're not see what you just said they're filled with hatred and things did your grandfather give you the blueprints for these Nazi bullets no I made them myself oh shit can I have some yeah using modern technology make more of them tell them on amazon by them on nazibulletsarrows.com I'm supported oh no it's slipping in and see if I were in a position where someone's trying to convince me to give up my powers and their face looked like that I would disagree I'd be like I don't trust you creepy wizard she's like give me a kiss strange lady weird time to duck face but all right and so unfortunately Cheetah owns so good these are so good Cheetah owns being a badman the electric goes in Cheetah is dead or not really I don't know it kind of just hurts her and then she's okay it doesn't affect Wonder Woman whatsoever or if it does you can't really tell if it's doing much at all yeah not sure about that one it's all it's all very sad though because you know what Cheetah wished for things to be different she couldn't accept things the way that they were and that is the theme I guess it's because cats don't like water so the water has already like weakened her I guess Wonder Woman just fucking flies again without the wings all the way so this is your prompt to type uh they fly now for the 80th time so go ahead and you know you have to he said flies so oh my god they fly they fly now they fly they're not all I shouldn't gonna meme again you fucking piece of shit I shouldn't mean you know what I'm staunchly anti-meaning so it's not good oh okay check it out metal you're being very aggressive check out Wonder Woman's flight look at this look at that you can you can see the strings that she is on without seeing the strings that she is on they are very string-ish they're very string-ish yeah physics see Cheetah Cheetah's all sad she's she's she'll go away now for most of the movie it's fine bye Cheetah very me with my ancestors oh my goodness is smaller I think I may have figured it out this is incredible okay so maybe the reason that they chose a cheetah because as it makes no sense as an apex predator and I have a clear list of easily googleable apex predators they could have used but didn't do it maybe this because this is the final battle this is supposed to mirror the opening scene of the film where where they're trying to imply that the moral of this story is that cheetahs never prosper don't be a treasure oh my god oh that was really good I can't believe this film is actually you know discussing this film we've learned so much about it like going through more of it analyzing it I can see why Hytop loves this film it's there's so much to it maybe I'm just really drunk but that was a really good pun I commend you good job he went up against mr freeze and as much as he lost he came pretty close and that's impressive 2019 exactly I had one that was damn close I was proud of that one metal I think had two jay longbone I think had two it was you know just goes to show it's not an easy gig so that's like wonder why I'm and makes it into the final boss room unfortunately because he is granting so many wishes there is wind there is so much wind that she cannot reach him this is real this happens like I need to remind you that as much as this this is really is soma style shit like the the main menu of soma where the face is just disconnecting you know so when he grants a wish in this film there's a little breeze he goes when your hair goes the implication here is he's granting so many wishes at once he has a whole blizzard to use against her as a weapon I find that endlessly funny or is it just well a defense of sorts I suppose hey happy new year and all the Americans have caught up huh it's starting yeah an hour here well the east coast have caught up happy new year yeah central coast wants to tell you to fuck off central city we you know what this was a good little they're still fighting this is a good little double stream we did because we've covered a lot of new years across the globe including Britain and Amorica fellow east coasters we still gotta go for at least another chat I uh chat I tried my best to get uh to get mark after dark in here but unfortunately he's busy tonight I want unfortunately he's racist and that's fine yeah well yeah I mean that's not denying that but I'm just saying that you know circumstance also with that new year uh the the new other new year I'm gonna pop out because it's 6m and I'm really tired I'm kind of okay loser oh okay lame as long as you play VR would be lighter metal I'll be pretty good no fuck you you smell fuck off metal I fucking hate you I'm sorry I'm nearly fuck that polar again that's fine no you can yell at me in private later I guess what were we talking about I don't know VR things yeah anyway one of them wasn't really bad uh you guys have fun yeah I wonder one more happy new year everyone and I'm gonna gonna crash in Heimers and I'll talk to you all later and you have fun bo boy goodbye chat goodbye and that's how we get rid of the germans so anyway the wind anyway a difficult creature to defeat and of course he keeps granting wishes and one of them is like don't you understand that's bad and so yeah he just keeps granting them anyway and uh he eventually unlocks the super laser oh wait sorry she uses a whip to throw a camera first oh yeah which and he's like it doesn't matter I will step into the device that I don't know sends the the message and thus that's all I need to do I don't need a camera anymore fuck cameras and so it's pretty epic he's moving toward the laser like um I don't understand what that laser does it I think it's pretty obvious you can like especially this shot right here it's just you can tell from his face what it's doing I literally don't so this it's just on camera so what is his goal is to you know send messages to people and he's happy so I think that's what it does using my my film knowledge to really discern this unfortunately Wonder Woman is still dealing with the wind this is very epic like I said I just wanted to make sure she goes following and uh he steps in this is where he's going to start launching all of the wishes of the world with no sense of mercy and unfortunately look at this oh no she's trying to use a lasso of truth on him but she can't reach tries again oh no it's not working so it could reach a plane but I guess it can't reach Envita way but he's just that windy he pushes her even more with the wind oh no look at it ah she's in a corner now whoa so this is intense like if you guys have seen any superhero movie before this is where this is the final moment this is where it all comes down to wind and a whip gotta get it right and yeah she's just struggling like hell it's real sad actually because the whip has just been so useful throughout these movies and right now it's just it's just impotent you might say winds of patriarchy well said I go well said well ego just not letting it in and you know Pedro Pascal enjoying the shit out of being in the big blue light because of course that's that was the villain goal if you will yeah and of course she pleads with them it's like stop it shouldn't do that is he immune to his own wind what a silly question to ask I know I because like if he tripped a little bit and he wasn't in the middle anymore would he go just a spinning around yeah um I think metal actually mentioned as well as uh Shad the armor does it it flumps in this bit while she's against the wall a little bit I'm trying to spot it but um yeah she's given up the hero is given up guys there she is it's over that's a shame how can you be slumped out bit this is a triumphant scene really to end your movie on the hero slumped uselessly in this cement corner of a building in fairness the hero right now is winning the hero's granting wishes his son presumably happy oh yeah that's true yeah I forgot yeah the villain is crying they can really think that yeah the villain's in the corner crying over her little whip her little puny half-chub just not been able to do anything with it I suppose that this is the most emotional she gets in the film I guess I think hard to know for sure but uh Peter Pascal is still just acting his heart out playing the man who's achieved his dreams and then she is like shaking her head again she's very good at shaking her head it sort of represents her position on these state of things she's like nah I disagree that's a dramatic acting one-on-one just shake your head and so um yeah I'm just sort of waiting for more things to happen shaking her head again excellent and so uh I think he announces to the world what his true motivation is because she's attached the lasso of truth to him somehow oh people are saying F are we down can you hear me oh no it's still up I can hear you yes well we got some Fs I I half wonder if it's Fs for like internet or if it's copyright I think it's a meme I don't know well no one's paying respects are they people are saying rip flash player yeah flash players dead as far as I know oh yeah oh yeah because it's 2021 so that's the they're like saluting yeah it's like white 2k good fucking rins wow flashed it a lot for us welcome back shed hello say about the armor wow there's so much to say how are you back how did this happen shed you can only be back if you change your oh how do you how do you but I might I might I might I'll work on it I'm I had to have a couple of things to do and I will need to head out still but because I've done things and I'm just waiting for it to get ready to leave I've got some more time to to jump on back in because the this is where the the the message of this film is attempted to be articulated and it is amazing gibberish like it is so hard to try and deconstruct what she says here and so I wanted to be part of it I agree with Chad I mean you're welcome to lead the charge I can barely remember what she said okay so I got some notes this is some of her lines she says that you know she loves someone but then she says is gone that's the truth the world is beautiful just as it is you could not have it all you can only have the truth and the truth is enough the truth is beautiful wow wow you know one of the oldest things is that the truth hurts and the ugly truth like this is like the truth is not the truth is often portrayed as an unkind and uncaring it is ugly it is painful it's a hard pill to swallow the truth is something that you often do not like but you have to accept this is the first time I've ever really seen the concept of truth is something that's just really great and wonderful and amazing and the truth's great there are some terrible realities of the world terrible truths like wonderful stories that's what I think sorry if you think truth is beautiful then go look at the instagram page nature is metal no look at this shit for a while I love that Somalia sometime let's see how that goes for you um and yeah the great of nature is metal and there's this underlying implication that all of the wishes in the world were a little bit too like selfish or or moving away from the idea that hey life is what it is when it's like you know that there was a family and there was like a mother who was dying of cancer and like the son wished for her to not have cancer then what the woman was like renounce the wish you're like oh no do I have to just like accept the world the way it is the truth is beautiful I know you're like the message seems to be saying accept the world the way it is so what that means don't bother trying to change it like all right so they're saying don't wish to make change the world make the world a better place like or if you just want to instead of wishing you actively try and change it instead of accepting the crap in the world but the message of the film is essentially saying yeah just just take the world as it is right don't worry one of our issues with this point in the film was that a lot of us well I forget who brings it up it might have been me I forget it was just a slur of thoughts at this point we've been we've been through a lot at this time but I was like thinking about all the people who wished for legitimately good things I wish my I wish my mom didn't have cancer I wish little Timmy didn't have leukemia I wish that you know the solution to all of these problems and issues and they're being told to renounce their wishes personally I love the idea of Gal Gadot visiting children dying of cancer in real life in like children's hospitals and they're like oh I really wish I could see Wonder Woman and like wishes are for liars grow up Wonder Woman isn't real you dying child this this guy's face keeps getting more and more fucked by VLC as it moves on oh no he shouldn't have renounced his wish to have an unfucked face it's multiplying oh my god it just keeps got VLC naughty look at that I wish mommy and daddy you know we can't go back his wish was to become a real hero of Wonder Woman looks like someone made his face on a fucking etch a sketch right about it they just keep shaking it a little bit every minute um oh yeah by the way so the this is so odd mechanically not etch your sketch so yeah no fuck those people the uh the process by which a message can be delivered being that the camera records and sends has been destroyed and so max standing in the beam somehow gets talking through to people and attaching the whip to him from Wonder Woman and her speaking sends a message to everyone and they've got the glow on the tv's of her whip like what in the hell is happening right now how is this feeling more like Wonder Woman can um send her vision projections of the whip through television broadcasts that's that's that's what's happening it's insanity I know it's utterly ridiculous and of course and before we move too far on from that old stupid message I also just want to say like it's such vapid convoluted nonsense utterly ridiculous yet the movie is framing it like it's this really moving epically deep like incredible oh yeah what's philosophical concept when it's just utter nonsense it's a this movie is amazing guys it's just did they did they not give cheetah girl here cheetah sisters did they not give her fangs I mean when she had it when she was looking up at the light with her mouth was there no fangs there I'll rewind it a sec but I I think in our recording I was just like I didn't think Sauron would visit her in her like low point but I guess he's got to power her up because she's got to take on Wonder Woman again and who wouldn't want a pep talk from Sauron I feel like that'd be pretty neat you're like yeah you've been fucking up gives her the old gives her the old black speech pep talk and use your heart is fearless and you're like mm-hmm you make good points I uh since the time code is fucking annoying and I'll get back to the uh the shot in a sec ranks we shall see about her fangs you're like a good point Sauron you is that the shot you're looking for magic wingship isn't legit I mean it's one of them I guess you could use just her with open mouth because I was curious I I didn't see any fangs and I was like surely they gave her fangs that kind of it's kind of little fangs that's what I'm saying I agree yeah I agree that's exactly that's a mood I I feel like someone should now take the avatar of just Shad's nose from capital O's one just keep zooming them I'm keeping mine though I'm very happy with my fucked creepy face it's wonderful uh so yeah that happens and everyone on earth begins to renounce their wishes though I don't know if everyone does or not because she gets Max to renounce his wish to be a wish giver and thus all wishes get undone anyway right or am I wrong well see all the other wishes seem to have like they just remove what the wish was but all the effects still remained in place on in every other time someone has renounced one and so that would imply that if Max renounced it it wouldn't change all the other wishes people had made I'd assumed like but it's this movie is a contradictory mess so you're saying you love it I love it on a different level while I like yes this movie is special in different ways I almost forgot by the way this movie special they suddenly drop on us and this is again the potential the story had but they just they deliver is terrible Max grew up in a in a a home where his father was abusing his mother and then it shows him like he's he's wet the bad and his father's like shouting him out they're rushing this like crazy then they go to like his school and he's clearly like the poor kid or whatever and would get bullied for it like this there's just these set of scenes that are just it's it's one of those backstory just add water sort of moments like hey look sad and this is why he was motivated to do everything that he does and it's like man you guys had a story here just saying yeah yeah you remove all the time you spent on cheetah and put it into more time establishing Max's backstory and also remove Wonder Woman yeah and make it entirely about him this is a pretty decent like yeah none of this structure for a story they've even de-aged I think they've de-aged him I'm not sure but it's just show like the idea that he's setting up an office and like I think so yeah this is this is cool this is where he started yeah that's really clever actually it's like aw shit a story line guys look a story line this is like imagine okay this this story this plot that's the whole creation of this imagine a ship a big a big old Spanish galleon in the middle of the ocean in turbulent storms the wind is blowing the rain is coming down it's a hurricane the waves are 30 million feet high it's fucking terrible and everyone is running around like a bunch of retards on deck however there was a lone soul a hero against all odds valiantly attempting in vain but valiantly attempting nonetheless to steer the ship towards safety in some way that's Wonder Woman 84 here you go so that was beautiful yeah that was fucking thank you I feel that I'm crying I'm crying it was beautiful and brave and brave definitely and brave especially brave yeah gotta give it a go also Luke Skywalker yeah Luke Skywalker is there too very good green lightsaber in Boba Fett um so Wonder Woman shows the vision of launching the rockets I guess and uh it's enough to pull Max from the from the brink and uh renounce his wish to be a stone that wishes things grants wishes and that's honestly we're close to the end I'm kind of happy about that this has been an adventure also people in chat are posting clap emojis and saying I coomed and I think that's special yeah man clapping and cooming yeah the jetpack and he flies yay I love it also rags can you give me a little favorite next time you share a story I would really it would make me very happy if you opened with imagine if you will just just the theatrical effect picture if you will this yeah the old twilight sounds exactly what I was thinking of yeah yeah uh imagine if you will her shitty fucking movie a movie where the hero is actually the villain the hero unbeknownst to her or the writers is the producer or is it the but we don't have to imagine it at all yeah that's true yeah so I'm just super chat I miss 2020 the fuck what a slut what a slut rags how does it feel to have 40 minutes left of 2020 uh feels all right feels right you know me just you know heading up the rear so um the nukes the nukes begin to disappear because of the renouncing and then we see one of them explode I don't understand what this film is saying the wall that was erected for that that wish for that guy it just gets destroyed and pours dust and debris everywhere these people will die it's really it's a lot of debris too look at that it's like the size of whole city blocks and yeah and everyone's like realizing that they shouldn't have done the wishes they did I guess and we're close to gg we've got one scene actually that we need to comment on of course from uh good old good old man so many people would never renounce their wishes no as we said little timmy's leukemia that's not happening yeah like how are you gonna possibly convince someone who wish that they're you know like oh my my little boy my little sweet timmy the eight-year-old boy he has some horrible terrible disease that i was gonna kill him slowly and painfully but with a simple wish he doesn't have that disease nor he could live a full and wonderful life yeah like bullshit women aren't gonna or whoever wishes it their mom or their dad or their brothers or whatever and we're like yeah I guess you're right Wonder Woman truth is important and I don't want to live a lie so sorry timmy for the principle you're gonna have to just you know suffer and die in pain also christian wish renounced to wish you don't want to live a lie if if the wishes change reality they're not living a lie anymore are they they just like they did something to change that's what I mean the wishes are a thing in this world they do it's not like a wish in our life where we just sort of the idea is that I I wish that this was a thing is because I it can't be a thing or that I don't have the capacity to make it a thing in this universe that's what it is that it comes true so yeah little different hard to match the narrative to the the theme there but they tried gosh darn it it seems like max's power is to actually make wishes come true he were being true um yeah and I just want a lot of people ask how did max get to his son in the end it's just well we cut to a helicopter is just leaving the area and he's running from it to imply he landed via the helicopter he managed to get one he just it was it was waiting for him and he knew exactly where the sun was through the lasso of truth all right okay there you go and and so out of any part in the film where I think they the trump analogy for max is like actually comes to the surface a bit is what he says in this scene do you remember what he says what that I'm a loser yeah I'm not like where where are I I is saying that he's been lying to people I'm not as great I'm not a great guy but I'm a big loser guy um it's like hmm I wonder what they're trying to say there isolating it from whatever political aspect that patty wanted I like this scene yeah I hate me too I like that max is his whole life he's been trying to come across as a as a thing almost like fake it till you make it but he's finally decided that that's just not the way you should live or something like there's something in there yeah I agree um I just funny that if they're what if they were trying to force the trump analogy that they accidentally just I it's so bad and it looks they accidentally made him a relatable and said that I can do well if the wishes created illusions maybe like where people thought they were real but they weren't really real and people were just living in like a dream world for themselves and maybe then the truth thing would work in some way but for a movie that's ostensibly about the truth I don't really remember anyone telling any profound lies you know what I mean yeah that's the thing there was there was never any yeah it wasn't like an illusionist was the main villain or somebody would deceive people constantly yeah like Mysterio or something like that he would mislead everybody to get what he wanted in some more overt way it was just kind of a guy who had good goals at least what he believed in Steve was an illusion kind of yeah that's what if that was the lie what if the lie was that that wasn't really Steve even though they never admitted but what was i say in the story it totally was Steve though was the problem they're dealing with is that all this stuff was real until you unwish it like all right mechanically like yeah it's just funny to me like one was like that's not the way it is though and it's like but I could make it that way like what why are you saying at least she's like Steve actually it's like the only reason you let Steve die was because you wanted your powers back you selfish bitch look shut the hell up uh because let's not pretend for a second that she did it to save the other guy's life that's not what she did it for this is like don't lie to me that's pretty bass I'm glad someone's calling it as it is because that's exactly what it is why are the all the super female characters all morally bankrupt except for like Black Widow and Scarlet Witch. They're like, I agree. You're just an MCU fanboy. Well, no, I agree too. I mean, I'm not because I need to get that fucking guest on the stream. I'm just saying, they're making a lot of sense right now. True. You're just trying to compartmentalize how you can be an MCU fanboy. That's all you're doing. It's amusing as well because Scarlet Witch starts out as a villain. Like they've managed to save us. I just realized that, technically speaking, Black Widow is a bad guy as well at the start, right? When we meet her, she was a bad guy or whatever. So maybe that's the key. Oh, so now MCU has good female characters and now they're all villains. You flip and flopping from the MCU fanboys just like always. I'm saying that's the key. You have to make them villains first and they stopped realizing that because Captain Marvel is clearly a villain. They need to, she needs to become a hero. Her story was all villainous, of course. Same for Batwoman. Same for Wonder Woman, to a degree. We're going to get there, guys. They're going to have their hero stories eventually. People are saying, I concur with Mini Shad. Yeah, man, my children, they know what's up totally. That was my youngest as well. I'm guessing they did not enjoy Wonder Woman 84. They thought it was bad. I haven't even let them watch it yet. I don't know if I will. If they don't share your opinions on movies, you need to like eject them from this fucking plan. You're doing more favor. I don't know. They are becoming more and more kind of objective and critical, especially by some villain. He's like, that doesn't make sense. Docs. You're like, I'm so fucking proud of you. I am. I love it. He makes daddy so happy. Like after after we watched Rise of Skywalker, he's like, so didn't didn't that guy in the die in that other movie? I'm like, he did. But then how did he come back? And like, that's done. Today, you're going to learn that your father doesn't have all the answers. Docs, not even God knows these things. It's a bad ability. There's some things that we're just not meant to know. Like what makes the rise of Skywalker make sense? Sweetie, allow me to give you a lesson about a little thing called Hollywood. It's making sense. Why? Have you heard of the Jews? Oh, no. The Jews don't like making sense. It's all the Jews. The Jews hate continuity. Disavow. It's a well-known fact, yeah. So, yeah, actually, I'm only going to be playing the movie while I got the cover up to see if there's anything else to prompt me to talk about. Is that it for this movie? Is that it? Have we done? I mean, they have this. I mean, I guess we can talk about this final scene here. It's really good. It just wasn't earned at all. I would change a little bit of the dialogue, I recall, but it wasn't like a huge deal. I really enjoyed it. I'll give it this. They got it. They got a single tiny little tear out of me. They did Pedro fucking his acting is so good here. It's so great, and the dialogue is good enough, and the little kid's line is so good. Oh, you don't have to wish for me to love you. You know, that sort of thing. Fucking hit me in the perfect subjective tisms for just a moment. I mean, and it was great. Conceptually, it's on point. The whole motivation, I know, right? To be great, great finish to never earn the goal of wanting to be seen as great by his son. And then the arc being he shouldn't be worrying about that. That's not it's not what's important. It's the love they share. Yeah, there's so much good stuff here that. It was what I mean. People are saying like they didn't notice Pedro Pascal pulling in a good before. It's like, are you sure he's we didn't notice? No, no, well, I mean, Ned Roddick said that he was like he wasn't sure about that. I know some other people probably willing to say that Pedro Pascal was lame or whatever. I just I don't know. I think that we're being fair to say that he did a good job. Yeah, I think he did. I think he did a great job. He really made me feel. Interest for this character and concern, and he gave it his all and not in a hammy way. I feel like if everything around Pedro was changed, he would fit perfectly well in a really excellent movie. So it's not important to be seen as good by your son. Only a woman could write this. No, no, no, no, it's not about that. He's clearly his son's almost killed because of his goal to become great, right? This stuff here and I wouldn't want it. I'm not one moment doesn't make it all good. Of course, Clib, this movie is terrible, terrible. But oh, yeah, this movie is shit. This is the diamond buried in all this. Yeah, there are three things matter. There are three scenes. All of them have to do with Maxwell interacting or Max. Sorry, just Max was is Maxwell. Is it Maxwell? Lord is the name Max. Lord, I thought it was that maybe Maxwell is whatever. Pedro Pascal and his son, they are the only. They have the only three scenes that are good in this whole movie, and they squander them. And they just they belong in a much better film that actually treats these characters well and explores the concept. But they are really good. We've said it before. The key to fixing this film is removing Wonder Woman and Cheetah. Yeah, just get rid of those two. It makes sense. Oh, wait, I would say there's three and a half good scenes now that we sit three and a half and the little the little honorable mention is here at the end. I like this little I like this little thing that they do. It's you mean the one after this bit, right? Not the yeah, yeah, because you don't like you don't like this one. Yeah, this is where she confronts Handsome Man, and it's this weird quasi where did my life go? I've been in a coma for honestly, what's kind of weird and creepy about this is the idea is the mindset here. She's like, well, I kind of fucked him already. Maybe it'll be worthwhile to just eat him. I don't make it all better when he says yes. Quick, can he keep the technique? Oh, my God. To move on from Steve by fucking the guy that is that he possess. His face is so good. Handsome Man. Come on, Chad. Make that your fishy. All right, all right, that might do it for me. Handsome Man. That's a handsome man. I wasn't looking at the screen. I was like, it's not that funny. What was just said? And then I look over and I'm like, oh, yeah. How come your internet face is all fucked up? And your response is just. Why don't you love me? It's the only appropriate response you can make. Jesus. What a what a stream this has been two streams even. It's like if Arnold Schwarzenegger was born in India, but also was separated from his conjoined twin. That's like the vibe I'm getting from that one. You've got two expressions now. That one looks a little bit like I have a pain here. Yes, it looks like Harold. Yeah, no, actually. I love it cuts back to Gal Gadot. She's fucking fine. It's like, that's clean. It's fine. That's glorious. I'll change for that memory of handsome guy. Absolutely. Every day we drift further from God's life. Seriously, it just best represents Wonder Woman 84. Yeah. And as she looks upon the world with handsome guy, they realize that all is saved. I don't remember what their dialogue is. I don't particularly care. It's probably like, you know, the truth, the truth is the best. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why don't you accept the truth? Wonder Woman, just admit what you did to the poor guy. Look at his face. What did you do? I picture there will be memes for all of these fates like the Avengers post of it with all of these creatures. So, yeah, we sort of we close on a happy note that is Wonder Woman going back to not helping anyone at all to match continuity to Justice League, et cetera. Because, of course, such a complex character. She's like Kylo Ren. Yeah, you don't know what she's going to do next. Maybe we'll get a Wonder Woman. You have no idea. Like the Wonder Woman between those two movies will explain it. Because we can just keep making Wonder Woman movies. Wonder Woman 89, Wonder Woman 95, 98, 90, whatever. Just make them all. And yeah, we end with a balloon flying up into the sky. It represents hope. Oh, oh, good to go. Such a good movie, man. Like this is one of my favorites, I'd say. Just so good. It's great. The message of our point. What about that? The MEO thing at the end? I approve of it. I will say Gal Gadot. If you're out there listening, watching EFAP New Year's Eve, I see you. I don't know. It's good. Yeah. Oh, well, I've been I've been trained to call it like Godot, like the fucking Greek name for God or whatever it is. But anyway, Gal Gadot, if you're if you're I don't care. If you're out there, you're watching EFAP New Year's New Year's Eve. As I know, you're off to do. I will I will say anything positive about this movie. If you will, please just look at my if you will even look at my goddess. Gal. Wow. He wants to be just looked at, I guess. It's very important to me. T posing out. Gal Gal, please. Godot, I want you to rate my cock. Oh, no. Yeah. I wish I could T pose and fly. This is the T posing part you can already do. It's actually important now. Does she fly in Justice League? No. Why would she? Because that's a massive continuity stuff up. Well, people argue she flies at the end of Wonder Woman, the first one when she jumps off into the distance. But I think that's just a jump. OK, I think that's a super jump that she found out she could do that at that moment. But the end of this movie, she's definitely flying. That was flying. Yeah, it's consistent with her character to randomly discover powers. When she needs them. Oh, God, what a disaster. I mean, yeah, wow. I need to check Justice League now to see if she flies or if there's any moment where flying would be advantageous to her. I feel so bad for the icing on the cake for the DCEU fans. So bad. They just just fans of Wonder Woman. This was this was an assassination of the Wonder Woman character as well. Like, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. It's got to be right with what we saw. Yeah. No, I have to credit. See, there is an after credit scene. I think I'm not sure where it is. Let me find it. But it's the one. Oh, there there is some. We see we see someone get saved by someone. And then it's like, oh, my God, who are you? And it's the original Wanda Waman. Oh, wow. And I can't remember what she calls herself. But yeah, it's like she called herself the warrior who originally wore the armor. Oh, there you go. Yeah, that's her. Yeah. So she didn't died. No, I was worried about her. Mr. Delivered the armor back and then was I like how they suddenly do the increased zoom on her face. And they're just like, hey, do you see it? Do you get it? Well, when I went when I was Wonder Woman, I wasn't a fucking rapist. I feel like I was the superior one. She winks at the camera. Look at it. Winking. I approve of the wink. I disapprove. I disapprove. Southpaw is an and Mahler are unfeeling. It's it's I agree. Cold. It's forced win the force. I don't like the one of nonsense. Chat ignore Southpaw and Mahler. Anything that Mahler he hasn't said it yet, but whatever he will say, just pretend he isn't saying anything. The wink at the camera is acceptable. Typical. First of all, talk is acceptable. It's totally acceptable. Look at the guy. Look at had some guy. It's him. The whims he can't be forced. I don't care how old she is. If any mature woman with cheekbones that perfect, even look at my penis. I'll be there. What if they wink at your penis? Non-rapist Wonder Woman. Can you rate my cock instead of rapist Wonder Woman? I just like the idea of someone like looking at a man's like tiny shriveled dick and he just goes and just fucking shoots. That's a strange thing that you just said. Yeah, that's hilarious. I don't know about that. I enjoyed it. I vote against it. I have my avatars tuning away from you, as you can see. My avatar would look at you. I would rather I would rather look at the appropriate response on a cat than your weird. Someone says she's sixty nine nowadays. She's sixty nine. Holy shit. Well, good for sixty nine. Oh, I don't know. I suspect there might have been work done the same or at least some touch ups in post in the footage. Well, that's. And that's that. That is Wonder Woman eighty four. I don't know. Who is morally worse out of Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel? Like, who's the worst person? Wonder Woman, rape to God, Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel obliterated a spaceship full of innocent people. Yeah, murder, murder is worse than rape. Murder on that scale as well. Wonder Woman is too stupid to realize what she did. Yeah. And and in fairness to Wonder Woman, she's really stupid. Captain Marvel knew what she was doing. Yeah, the woman. Captain Marvel still has the crown. Captain Marvel not only hurt you in doing, she did it with glee. Yep. Woo. That's what she was saying, right? Yeah, you know. She's so cool. She's my favorite. You know, she can punch Thanos or she can be punched by Thanos and she doesn't even care except when he uses the cheetah stones. Oh, yeah. My God, I'm I'm very tired, but we have we have some other bits to to to just look, this is more of the point and off section. OK. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because I'm getting pretty tired, too. We got we got a whole bunch of screenshots that are funny to go through a little saga and then we can check out the other thing that was in this title and then we're going to have to do super chats another time. Rags of myself because. How far do we go? We're getting we're getting along. Time is a mysterious beast. Well, keep going, fellas. I might have to duck out again. I'm not sure if I'll pop back in. But if I do, that'll be cool, but still have fun. OK. No, handsome guy. Bye. Love you. Oh, my goodness. It feels fucking bad. Are we doing a donkey vid stream? Not yet. We're nearly there, right? Chill. So this, first of all, this is a tweet the movie Bob put out. He he's in trouble of some kind. And someone says. Oh, what do you say? Someone says in response to it. What did you do this time, Loll? Rags, you ready to read this? I'm so ready. At this point, it's best to assume it's all just the same thing I did in the first place, which is have the indecency to exist. Every time I try to figure out what it is, I could have possibly done to make the world treat me as it does. I only ever come back to one answer. I was born that fucking sad violin that and the world plays. Yeah, the biggest violin. I want to see that now. Oh, I'm going to put it in the thick. So we're all but lacking of self-awareness. So a wild Matt Jabo appears. Two things. Oh, my goodness. I'm not right wing. I've never been on a cover this. And oh, yeah, fucky fact. This isn't all we have. We have never covered this on your family. Yeah, that is three things. Right. But he did say and oh, yeah. Did we just get fucking bolder in my dudes? I think we did. So what happens next in this saga? I wonder. Well, I quote to him and say, if this isn't the greatest endorsement of EFAP, then I don't know what is. And see that would upset. I want to take credit for that tweet. Bolder case. You were definitely there when it was crafted. That is true. I can't remember if it was entirely yours. They were to tweet it. That's what I just asked. Yeah. So then you have Matt is going on a bit of a tirade. You got you sound pretty triggered there, Matthew. He's like, nah, I tweeted that and took a quick nap. We'll come to a bunch of triggered children by benches, though. The Matt is just. Oh, I remember this thread. Matt is kind of like a masochist when it comes to replying to people on Twitter. Oh, yeah. Constantly replies to people on Twitter who are just dunking on him and making fun of him and insulting him and rightfully so on all accounts. Yeah, it's hard not to dunk on me. You know, you can trip and I just I love later on in that thread, like someone was just like, I think in direct response to that. They said, like, oh, you know, well, you seem pretty upset that, you know, I forget what it was exactly, but he basically made a response that was like dismissing the idea that he could even be upset. And then, like, he ended up responding to someone else and they ended up just quote tweeting his tweet back to me. He got ratioed like fucking crazy. We just use his own words against them. That one's where we go first. So of such base emotions like anger in cells, you know, for 11 hours, bitching like hens in the hen house, not for me. Like he wanted to make sure you didn't think of hens in like a cow house. You know, it was it was the hen house we were in. I would love to fucking hang out in the hen house with you guys. Yeah, in a giraffe house. Cow house. So, yeah, he says, let's move in together, be clucking awesome. And then you have CJ coming in with with a dunk. Anyone else remember when this guy false flagged videos criticizing him? Got caught lying about it and then blames on his mental health. Pepperage farm remembers and cried. This was too far. All right, bringing stuff up like that. So you go, love my fucking ass off. This is all the people have. Do you really think you're going to shame me over a two year old mistake? Yes. Yes. Yes. Because if you never apologize for it and you always act as if you did nothing wrong and you try to sweep it under the rug, it's still valid and it will always be valid. I like it. You also try to like own it by making a podcast called the Boulder cast. Like way too late. Yeah, he's he's he did the whole own the meme after two years. Fucking spring. There you go. They're a thing that I said in response to this, too. I don't know. It's your I mean, I don't know. Show my tweet. I mean, this is my favorite part of all of it. Here comes what you won't you won't give an OK to the wink, but you'll give a tweet to Monday, Matt. Wow. No, I'm just fucking like, you know, get him. That image is fantastic to like his own tweet. Also, for anyone I saw some people asking in chat, who is Matt Jarbo? He was formerly known as mundane Matt, but every video of his got absolutely buried in dislikes. So he rebranded to his real name, which is Matt Jarbo. He's one of several very famous Internet goblins. Like there's a whole tribe of them. Lulka was a bit too much for him. Like that's putting him too high. Internet, yes, it's giving him too much credit. Internet goblins, I love it. Are we all kind of Internet goblins to some degree, though, when you really think about it? I'm a beautiful Internet fairy, and I'm just gorgeous and magical. And I flutter around from place to place, spreading my wonderful puns and the N word in my opinions on women wherever I go. That's more like an Internet amoeba. An Internet amoeba. In what way? Yeah. I don't know, just in terms of his like cell count, I want to say. An amoeba is one cell, right? Exactly. You're saying he's one cell. I'm saying he's not not smart man. Oh. Oh, I'm sorry. Was that too hard? It was a long road to get there, but I do agree. You made it longer than it needed to be, but OK. Damn, South Boys, I can reckon him with that. What you did is a series of cunt moves to protect your ego that you have yet to take responsibility for to this day. I'm pretty sure you put out some form of an apology somewhere and he was just like, it's all cool now. But it's like nobody forgets the way he dealt with it. So I'm calling it a mistake. Like you don't you don't act like false flag videos on like as a mistake. That's not a mistake. I know, I mean, not without we use the word. It's many, many mistakes made over a long period of time that he refuses to own up to, which is also another mistake. Um, so this is this is hopefully I'll just do it quickly. I never put this on EFAB, I don't think so. Wisecrack, the legends, we've covered them a couple of times. They're a channel that will once respect it and kind of garbage now because they got a change of owners slash creators. I don't know either way. They have a video called House censorship changed. And I'm going to have to describe the story as it goes because a lot of people in China have no idea this even happened. At one point, that's the moment they mentioned you at one point. They talk about conspiracy theorists and like conservatives talking about censorship when like like it's all bullshit and, you know, they're crazy. And they are the types of people to make videos about how bad the last Jedi is for like, you know, four hour long videos and stuff. Bit weird. The screenshot, as I can show you guys right there, has Vito's video with the last Jedi, the death of cinema. I don't know why they changed the name when it was a complete cinematic failure. That seems like you could have just kept the name on the phone now. So yeah, yeah, it's whatever. You know, they kept that, but they got rid of the channel name and the channel logo or avatar, whatever. But they kept the description. Next one, the last Jedi, you should hate it. Like, I don't even know what video this is referencing. Locked out of the thing, but oh wait, hold on, what's this? Facebook.com slash Chris Stuckman. Huh? Good job. Whoops. He didn't hate the last Jedi. Nor did he make a video called The Last Jedi. You should hate it. I don't know what you were thinking with that one. And then there's me. They kept my avatar for some reason and my thumbnail. And then they got the last Jedi. This is the galaxy the liberals want. Say it ain't so, did you fucking did you say that, dude? I don't really fucked up. I don't remember that. I really I just I it's so weird. I don't remember the publicly disconnect from you. Now I know I lost a lot of subscribers when they found out that was the original name. Damn, they found out your true feelings on liberalism. So someone who is vaguely or closely connected to Wisecrack was asked on Twitter about this called Austin Hayden, I guess. And he said because a lot of people were very angry about this. He's like, no clue about any of it. Can't respond to the particulars, but I know that peeps create in the content of good people with better principles than me. So I'm sure there's no funny stuff going on. Like, I don't know, seems like funny stuff. This is maybe you don't think they would do something unethical like this, but it looks like they did. Appreciate the response. Appreciate I would appreciate you looking into it further. To be fair, if I did look into it, whatever that would look like and I came to a rational explanation, do you honestly think it would have any impact? The OP radically misrepresented what the vid even says. It never uses the word conservative in relation to those vids. It's literally like the people who make conspiracy videos about being censored on the right are the same people who make Star Wars videos. They're like this is essentially the whole point of the part. Yeah, like it's a rabbit hole. The quote is specifically the same people who think they're being censored out of fear and it shows conservative like news outlets or whatever. Their peers will say mean things about them, may very well, who claim out of fear that their peers will say mean things about them, may very well be the same people making a 40 minute rage filled response video for the crime of suggesting the last Jedi. Wasn't that bad? So, feels kind of weird, man. Feels weird, man. It's like, what are you doing? And so Vito addressed them on Twitter. Like, what the fuck? And don't be showing my shit and saying that's what it is when it's not. And so in response to this, they decided to do a bit of censoring, of course, which is fair. I caught wind. I was like, wait, how did they censor it exactly? They blocked the thumbnails of both Chris's and Vito's, but not mine. They left Chris's Facebook and Twitter in there. It's like, okay, so this was not a clever thing to do. I was pretty dumb. And I made a tweet about it making it making a bit of a stink about it. And so of course, they decided to correct. It's so bizarre that they only censored it too. Well, in fairness, they made a mistake. It seems like such targeting. They made a mistake. And so as you can see here, they've corrected it. It's like two thirds of your video. This shit is honestly unbelievable. It was like, how did you fuck this up? You still have Chris's Facebook and Twitter in there. Editing, a hard thing to do. It just blurred my avatar down too. They're getting there is the point. Okay, guys, just give them a little bit more time. And you know what happened? Once enough complaints were done, the final edit, the poor editor for the Wisecrack channel finally got in there. Just one big fucking fart. Just, you're on screen. Just blur the whole thing. Just blur it. Blur it everywhere. At this point, it's just like, hey guys, you probably should have just got a different visual. Like, this one is just kind of... Yeah, it's probably just a lost cause. Maybe you shouldn't have tried to take little jabs and leave little fucking breadcrumbs in there. How could it go bad to take someone's video and rename it to recontextualize it and connect it to the idea of being censored because people like things? You're like, oh, that seems like it should go fine. It's like, it didn't. Weird. You know what? That was a very wise of Wisecrack. Agreed. Which brings us to Dunkey. Don't everyone get excited at once. Jesus. All right, so we're gonna need to watch together, I suppose. I can't wait. Sorry. Control yourself. Chase Wood, very excited for this moment. Oh, my. Watch the Fatman act like it's the funniest most pathetic thing ever. Watch together. Jump in, folks. We're doing a Twitch video today. How crazy is that? That's a freaking vlog. It's very exciting. So, context. Once upon a time, we did a podcast with, I believe, Moriarty Chase, Mark. And yeah, I think that was it. I was there. We covered, I said Chase, you fuck. So... Yeah, no, I said I was there. Chase, fuck. I'm just emphasizing. It's like the highlighted text. No, I look away from you. I'm looking away from you. Fuck. I'm looking toward rags. I'm fascinated by his eyes. You're looking at him like he's a fucking asshole. And then also just what I moved to the left or right. I'm just keeping an eye on people to both my sides, basically. Dude, you have to keep an eye on it. You're fucking around. He's like, well, now, clearly, I'm surrounded here. Trust no one, not even yourself. Look at the people on the left and right. You're holy shit. They're eyeing you up, man. They're fucked up. I'm glad I'm not fucked up like that. I don't know. We criticized Dankelton, Dunke, the Dunkster, and he's well known for taking criticism in a very positive way and expressing... Yeah, extremely well. His mistakes, his contemplation on where he may have been able to correct errors. Let's just say that. He's doing his little Twitch stream, and I guess he was aware that we had made our little stream so we can check it out. You guys excited? Very excited. The correct answer is yes. All right, so if I just... I actually have not even seen it yet and why I was waiting for this. Oh, he looks just like what I imagined him. So six, 20-ish, around here. Dunke, if you decide to watch this again on your stream and feign like this, I'm superior to them stance, we like your funny videos. We just don't think you're very smart. No, I don't think I've ever laughed at any of his videos. Well, no one cares. You're a little racist, guys. I will say. Dunke, give me a kiss. OK. This is his video from the last two, we're just shit. Is it at six to 17 for everybody? It's at six to 16. Yeah. All right, good. Cats eating us. That's not CG. That's not CG. All right, here we go. You ready? Now, the real drama, the real drama today is these guys. Is that a voice he's doing? These guys are like that. No, he always sounds like that on his streams. Like he just sounds really tired all the time. Either it's a constant lifelong performance or it is his voice. Oh, yes. Well, that is his voice, I guess, if either way. In front of me. He's got perception here. No. These horrible, horrible people are making fun of me. Let's unless it's a 10 hour video. So I'm going to watch this whole 10 hour video. Spoilers, he does not watch the 10. I figured he was being. Yeah, he was being obtuse. I'm going to be also we are pausing like every frame here with the fuck so weird. Yeah, the whole thing. The whole video. And then we're going to come and watch this 18 minute cap. We'll do our best. The body language already. One thousand one and gamers are angry. One of their favorite franchises has swerved in a new artistic direction. The problem with the game is very clear. The graphics are terrible. The graphics are so bad. In fact, that's completely ruined the game. This game was the legend of Zelda Wind Waker. Ah, so people were wrong. That's that is the point that he's open. One thing you're going to see as a consistent trend throughout this video is a consistent deflection. So get ready for that. Yeah, so the thing about the conversation about Wind Waker is you could totally find it ugly. That's one every individually like fuck it. But, you know, cell shading is the style, right? That's what it's called. Yeah, yes. So if you take issue with that, that's just like, I don't want to tell you. I'd be like, that's yeah, you don't like that style, I suppose. But the idea that, like, aha, years later, we have concluded that Wind Waker was a good game. Therefore, criticisms of the graphics were inaccurate. They were like, that's not that doesn't follow. Like the can I just say he could he really not find a version like any footage of Wind Waker that wasn't in fucking German? Is he going to comment on any of this? There will be some comments yet, but I don't know if you've picked up the joke yet, Rags. We're boring. He's sleeping. He doesn't have to respond. Rags is computing that to be boring is too much. That's it's funny, because we're really nobody would watch 10 hour streams. Why couldn't you find a version that wasn't in fucking German, donkey, you hack. Just record it yourself. It's like five seconds. Just the intro cutscene. Who cares? And also deconstructing even when you have his opening, you know, gamers said something back in the day that has been looked upon as inaccurate in future. It's like, I wonder why you're setting that up while talking about the last of us, too. I didn't chase in this in our video. He said, donkey deflects a lot, which he does all the fucking time. That's his forever shield that he'll use. You're going to see that. Yeah. And his response here. He's pretending to fall asleep to the things that we say. That I'm from the future. Whatever, you got your two uses out of that one. I suppose. Yeah. That's the most lesson. There's lots of it's very. Just look up Zelda long play footage. Holy shit. At least Germans, they have numbers. That's good. They got that is a good point. Yeah. Good old Jim. Oh, God. All right, that's that's just kind of boring. We're going to go to the next drama. Is that it? Let it play a sec. I can't remember how this goes, because I saw it. I only saw it once in my life. Yeah, no, he's like, so as I've mentioned, I find I find his videos like passingly enjoyable. It's like, oh, yeah, that's pretty cute. He he did the commentary with the stream mic. But like in his actual streams, he's like, I'm just playing the game right now. That's crazy. Yeah, like he just I don't know why he sounds so tired, because his video is quite his big comment. His big like, oh, I showed you guys was to go. That's kind of boring. Let's look at the next thing. Well, it's not over. Nothing substantive. Yeah, OK, I've watched many video game review channels. I've watched my fair share. What? He has no hands. Oh, I guess that is a good drama. All right, OK. Yeah, it is 10. It's 10 hours. I guess I'll watch at least five hours. You know, I'll chase kids. Let me tell you. Mr. It was just say, Donkey Blue passed a great Holocaust denial joke. Fucked it up. We know that was whatever he chopped it in half. It was deliberate. He did that. What was the joke again? Remind me? I remember this whole conversation happening because it was happening everywhere when this game came out. A lot of people who thought it was ugly still think it's ugly, you know, because it's a style preference. Yeah, I just want to interject and say that nobody thinks it's ugly. Plenty of people think it's ugly. I had friends who thought it was ugly. That was the biggest controversy when it came out. People were like, I'm not going to get this game. It's fucking it's a baby game. Yeah, they were I rate about it. But so I had a friend who was like calling them out for laziness. He was like, the reason they did this was so they didn't have to work as hard visually. And I was like, I was like, it's OK, buddy. You don't you don't have to think of it that way. But no, nobody thought it was ugly. It's fine. Unless, of course, he's joking. Sorry. Sorry. He might be joking. We're joking. We're joking. He could be joking. So we're taking him too seriously. We were joking. We were joking this whole time. Yeah, we got we got pulled into the floor. I was joking. I wish he would just. I wish he would spell out in advance like this is an example of me and I'm joking. This is an example of me when I'm being serious. Just exactly the same. So that way he can never pull it again. He can he has to come in and be like, is it New Year's where you are now? Oh, I guess. Yeah, it is. It is one happy New Year's. You're right. I mean, you made it the 2020 prestige one. So is that he's doing a satire YouTube drama and I don't know if they're in on the meme or if they're serious or with his layers of it's getting too hard to tell what is a joke and what isn't anymore. It's kind of like we need to reset. Guys, he's like a character from Wonder Woman 84. Oh, there was a meme. I wish I had it on hand. It's called Schrodinger's Dunkey and it's based on the response. Oh, I thought yeah, based on the response from people, it would have been a joke or it was serious. It's very cool. Nobody in the whole world thinks when like his bad graphics. OK, all right. But a lot of people do be divisive. Yeah, it's totally very. Well, I mean, it's totally. But I mean, like the look wise, it's very different than the. I was cool with it. I thought it was like a neat little cartoony style, which again, but a lot of people had a problem with not just the the cell shading, but the character designs. Yeah, a lot of people really didn't like this game. Yeah, remember that? That was a big backlash when the game came out. They were just like, this looks like a little fucking baby game. I like how I just relieve myself. Um, yeah, I don't see how this is comparable at all. It's such a. So this is the joke that he said he. The other thing we have to take into account. Because like, I'm enjoying. I'm enjoying listening to our discussion of. Yeah, we're very interested in this game. And I guess his joke is that he's falling asleep. He's bored of us. Well, I guess it's because it's a somewhat insightful conversation, which means that his brain blocks it out. So he's in. Yeah, no, exactly absorbing anything from it. This is like him watching paint dry. If I were someone that like followed Dunkey on Twitch and I was watching this stream, it would convince me to stop watching Dunkey and start watching whatever the hell these guys that he's watching here is. Because it's like a lot more interesting than whatever Dunkey's providing here as a source of entertainment for me. Well, and I know it's probably a joke that he's calling any detractors like haters, but I think I don't know. It's really hard to tell this because he might actually legitimately your entire life is satire. How can we tell you're serious or not? It's impossible actually. He doesn't actually know how to like address criticism. So he just doesn't know. No, I wonder if his BMI is satirical as well. Wow, can you go that deep? Oh, no, I just say I'm a blanket. And I think, wow, no pillow. Guys, he was emote for the whole video. Oh, yeah, he's joking the whole time. That's right. This is all. But does does he ever actually like say anything or respond to anything? Or is this so we got vaguely later? There's another two minutes here and then don't worry. I've got a whole thing set up already for you, Rex. You'll be entertained by this. Oh, boy, I'll take care of you all. OK. Yeah, well, this is going to be 10 hours for you to pay attention. What are you bored of, Dunkey? Is that we saying? Yeah, you saying Dunkey's boring and unfunny. I can't believe that anyone would say that. Donkey is very funny. My God. You actually you can't you can't say that I'm going to panic. I'm going to panic. I'm going to cry and show myself. I don't know. I hear that Dunkey is allegedly funny, but I've never seen it myself. You've heard that it is alleged donkeys. I'm just saying that Dunkey's humor in the Loch Ness monster for my brain are kind of on the same level. I guess there's a lot of comparison. Yeah. I mean, I get what you're saying, but it's satire. It's just fun. So just ahead of time, this EFAP is actually serious here. Yes, yeah, yeah, I think we are. This is the live laugh love past. Yeah, if you take offense to anything we say, chill out, man. It's not just fucking around. I didn't really say that. That was that was said in a satirical. I have my funny hat on. You can't see it. We just spent 20 years watching a dude. It's basically fucking body armor. It's all splat, right? How could you think we're serious? Come on, I'm very serious about sport. What are you a fucking idiot? By the way, that was a joke. Oh, he had this like in everything. That's what's so sad. Well, yeah, they were obviously like, I'm going to put it on and then you need to come over and give me in my sleepwear. Don't be very funny because we're boring and that's fine. Yeah, we're we're boring, I guess, having these discussions. Ten hours of Wonder Woman, 84 breakdowns, boring to you people. Can you see? People might be more engaged by donkey mumbling into his mic and his wife coming and going. Jason, I just. You hear that noise? That's content. Fuck, yeah. Hey, I guess it's a pathetic, lazy joke. Yes, well, no, it's funny. I think he just wanted to sleep. Well, no, he's just he's trying to be like, look at a little like hair, but it's like going on for a long time. And I just just just keep watching rags. You're going to say the same thing eight times over the next like 10 minutes. But yes, it's exactly that. Just what it happened today. I'm going to be discussing the last of us, too, with some of the greatest minds of the YouTube comments section for the safety of the best. I feel I need to warn you guys on you guys that I'm sorting comments by news. So please be careful watching this. Now, when I review last, why? Because he didn't he didn't want anyone to get any particular action for pointing out his bullshit argument. Oh, you're right. So the off the really, really popular comments that everybody is upvoting. Yeah, that's exactly it. It was one of the new ones. Is this a spiercy? Donkeys, a collab was the if he was to cherry pick all the stupid ones. You might get in some trouble in terms of just like, why are you being a dick pressing stuff? He's like, no, hey, it's not on me. I saw it by new. It's up to the action. I didn't see that one. So I didn't exist as far as I know. Yeah, there's a comment with one thousand upvotes is basically one person saying something and a thousand people agreeing. Yeah, I can't respond to every comment. It's just the really fucking easy ones. You know, if you know, I think we're entirely on point with this. Oh, yeah, we're making great sense. Very deliberately, as much as a donkey comment section will be filled with lots of memes. Some of the top comments, especially on one of his most disliked videos among them will be paragraphs along saying, hey, donkey, I appreciate your perspective. I just like to share some criticisms I have with the game and to read those out would fuck his video. It would just be absolutely. Yeah, he could he could not address those. Those are kryptonite. He cannot get anywhere near them. He has to instead sort by new, pick out some bullshit ones to respond to. And like clearly by 11 year olds. Yeah, like I did a stream with Evan and Buzz where we read out the the comments on my experiment to video. And we read out all of the negative comments on the video that we're trying to push back against my criticism and we push back against them. And I feel like, you know, it was partially inspired by seeing this video from Dunke where he just puts in these really low effort counters to the low. Yeah, you want to show how robust your arguments are, like like any good fucking critic should. Well, this is the interesting part. If you wanted to make an entertaining video that's solely about dumb comments, go for it. But if your goal is, hey, my last two video wasn't well received. I'd like to discuss it further. And then pepper throughout the video. Hey, guys, this is the team you're on, the idiot team. It's all satire. It's funny. Got him. Yes, it's hilarious. It's not bitter at all. Yeah. You know, unrelated. He does come across as really bitter. Yeah. Once this one. Yeah, absolutely. Profoundly bad at taking criticism and very childish in doing so. Once this stream is over, that's what I've been so far. Should go ahead and watch that. If you have again, it's a good one. Yeah, I got to say, I'm not really one to two my own horn all the time. However, I didn't watch this initially because I got anxiety and I was like, I'm probably said some really fucking dumb shit and he responded to me specifically like, fuck this guy. This guy's a retard. But upon further inspection, I'm making some really good points in this video. I think we all do. I'm quite chuffed about it. I think we're doing a good job. I'm very smart. We're very unsurgical in our approach, dare I say. Yeah, no, it's great. Scalpel's about. Oh, I do. We're gonna respond to comments in relation to criticism of the last two and you're looking for a discussion rather than random commentary. Maybe go for the top like comments on the video. It's over. I imagine they've got some things. It's over. It's over. It's been nine hours. It's been nine hours. It did. So it's about an hour to go. You're straight. Oh, damn. He started at a great point. He didn't even commit. So I was kind of really smart. That's just depressing. Well, it really got me on that one. All right, show. Lazy. I love how it's the same thing with every fucking brainless piece of shit like detractor. They just go, it's long. Say no more. I win. Pokey main defense. Yes, actually. Right. So there is a second section that he checks out. Okay, but that's the first. I would like you to see some comments from his chat as he was. Oh boy, what are the 12 year old donkey fans think about us? I can't wait. I mean, to be honest with you, I shouldn't have been surprised by this, but I don't know if you want to read them as you go rags and just stop where you want to comment. But this is a few. Yeah, let's, let's. Oh man, let's. Oh man, this is a, ooh, we got, okay. Fuck all those guys. All home. Thank you. Caden Jones 345 says those motherfuckers. I was in my mom for nine months. What's five more minutes? So there you go. PP vegan report them. One medium clue says cancel them. Bear in mind these, these are common. This is after what you just saw. That's, that's all that happened. These are real people. Interesting. It's all that happened. Okay. Yeah. Cancel them. Yeah. Fuck those guys. Is this a 10 hour breakdown of a single fucking video? Which I don't think it was. No, he wishes he was that fucking important. So they clearly weren't paying attention. So at most it's gotta be nine hours. But I don't think so. Normally we do some super chats at the end. Or we do multiple videos or something like that. Wow. So many of people who never got told saying actually is annoying AF. Well, actually. Actually. It's a very useful word. Yeah. That is great when you're countering, when people say things that are blatantly false. So it sounds like people told that to you a lot because you were wrong all the time. And so your brain has built up a defensive mechanism that whenever someone says that, they're just annoying AF. And I can't possibly be wrong. Yeah, there's nothing to take from there. Also, I just wanna say these are donkey's core audience where people to play league. So, you know, just make of that as you will. Yeah, this is an element of toxicity as they say, yeah. All right, these guys are dumb ass, fair enough. Listen to these morons, lol. Got us. Fair enough. These people are annoying and not getting the point at all. It's satire. And the point is? Yeah, oh yeah, the point is that it's satire, which means you can't respond to it in any way. It's almost like we literally preface that. Even if you say, let's assume this is serious. And then I shall respond. It's like, no, you fucked up. You're like, okay. Is it for the sake of the hypothetical, I suppose? But never mind. But isn't the point of good satire to make points that are true? Yes. No, no, you just have to be goofy and do goofy voices and yeah. These guys are literally so pretentious. I don't agree with that. I don't think that we're pretentious at all. To call us pretentious, I guess. Yeah, I didn't graduate college. I don't have any super fancy degrees in anything. I didn't take any internet classes on art or... I always felt weird. I think we're very... We're super layman, like that's the whole thing. Yeah, kind of. I went to college and I are super smart. Fuck you guys who are level. I don't know, I'm pretty pretentious. I have a master's degree in taking some, I'm pretty pretentious. Oh, shit, okay. Well, you're more pretentious than me that I only got my BV way. Master's degree in law and lameness. And fucking sucking dick in my room. I got him. I'm watching TV videos. I'm sorry I'm making my phone. I know, Jason, I took community college for that. Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah, I think they offer them online now. You never have to suck one dick for it nowadays. You just get it online. It's just a bonus. Yeah. Let's see, these guys suck. Fair enough. Not wrong. Bunch of losers, lol. Aw. Who watches this? Lol. A whole bunch of people actually. Yeah. This is hard to watch. It's just me 80,000 times. That's true. This is hard to watch. LMAO, what a shit take. I'm not curious what Ghostboy111 considers our shit take and why he considers it so. Yeah, I feel like we're pretty reasonable. Yeah, I think so. I think we were really reasonable. Let's just speak for like two minutes. What a fucking garbage opinion. It's like I was robust. Fuck these guys, Dunk. These people know nothing and nothing is in capital. Nothing. So this is not just nothing. This is extra nothing. They know nothing. They know nothing. That's how they meant to say it. I like how it's a 10 hour video critiquing a point in a comedy video. Yes, we spent the entire 10 hours critiquing a single point and it was a comedy video meaning you can't do that. Yeah. Very interesting commentary from Dust Bowl. Very stupid Dust Bowl 48. You got us. Those dang British people. People's reports, fair enough. Can they be sure I'm a people? I don't know. I'm the only British person there. These people are so sad. We're very sad, which is I... I feel like if you watch this stream of Dunkeys, you are in no position to call other people sad. Well. Because that was really nice. We have Dingus Deuce as British people. British people are ew. I'm the only one. I feel personally attacked. Fair enough. These people make me want to blow my brains out. Do it, do it, do it. Is it going to take them 10 hours to get through the video LMAFAO? That was in all caps to accent its intensity. You should have seen how long it took us to get through one woman. No, these guys make me want to cry. Oh, sorry. Ghostplay111, he's making a return. They are blatantly wrong LMAO. About what? Still in the reference. I don't know specificity at all. Still not sure, but I'm sure he'll get back to us on that. Yeah, I'm faithful. Corey Bore makes his return as well. This is really sad and upsetting. Oh, we're making everyone cry. I'm so sad. I don't know. Maybe we're talking about the stream bad. I feel like what we said was really, really reasonable. Yeah. Imagine taking 10 hours to say nothing. I mean, we said some stuff. You're on the dunkey stream, so. You would have to imagine it because that's not what happened. Yeah. Yeah. Ghostplay again, he's just working up a storm with those fingers. He's saying their whole content is nitpicking. Damn. Not going to lie. I've heard that one once or twice. Yeah, I've heard that one. Yeah, yeah. Just don't elaborate nitpicking. I win. Yeah, there I go. I've never been called that. Why listen to five 50-year-old white guys talking to me now? Yes, I'm 50. Do you need my Medicare? So happy birthday to all of you. Yeah, you made it. Not sure what our age race has to do with it. Yeah, I don't know that once they become 50 that everyone's going to unsub. They're like, oh, fuck this, he's old. That's just fucking boomerass. I don't like to listen to one droning fatso who isn't funny for any amount of hours. But we guess we choose the concept. He loses his subs when he hits 52. Yeah, that's pretty good. Smashing Jake says, all of these people on this Fram show are inculpable. I hate Fram shows. What's a Fram? So my mind is attempting to put together what he was trying to type that got auto-corrected. Is it damn? No, clearly it's backwards. I prefer Fram so hard. He meant to say Moff show. Moff show? His Moff show? Moff show. The Fram show. I need some fucking Fram shirts immediately. Some nice merch. I do not watch like that because it is Fram. It is a Fram content for Framers. This one's interesting. This guy, Aerozimol, says, this is boring. Could we go to better drama? Well, Aerozimol, I know you're a donkey fan and you watch his streams so your brain probably isn't fully developed. However, consider potentially that the reason the stream is boring is because this guy, this donkey guy is not doing anything with the content. He's, we're addressing points and we're bringing up issues and things like that. And he's pretending to be asleep, which is probably why you think it's boring. Yeah, I know you like videos where people just go, oh, I died. Thank you, Dark Souls. And then he cuts and he does the same thing. He has like 30 more times and then at the end it says something involving the word dunk, but we're actually like going through and arguing points and giving examples and disagreeing improvement. I know it's not quite your speed. You might want to play Roblox, maybe some Fortnite. That's pretty frammed, dude. I'm sorry, I'm feeling really frammed. I feel like a game his speed is Minecraft while it's paused. It's a peaceful mode. Yeah. So without the most, yeah. Moving along a dumb cunts, dumb cunts, dumb cunts, dumb cunts, dumb cunts, dumb cunts, dumb cunts, dumb cunts, dumb cunts. I don't understand what they're trying to say. See, now that guy's making some sense. Finally, finally some decent argumentation here from the Dunk Crew. Finally. Imagine unironically listening to this LMAO. Well, E-FapChat. For starters, it's something to listen to, like words and ideas are being dispensed. So you're here watching Dunk you pretend to be asleep, which is. E-FapChat just got pulled out. This is Dunk Chat versus E-FapChat right now. We're basically canceled at this point, Molly. You realize that, right? You actually have to get like a day job. Not until E-FapChat is defeated and slain by Dunk Chat. And I just don't think E-FapChat's easily defeated. I'm gonna be honest with you. Chat, are you gonna fucking let that happen, guys? Come on, what are you, a bunch of pussies? They're saying, imagine unironically listening to us. They're referring to you. Bunch of losers. Red Riot Ross says, I'm losing my fucking mind. You're watching a donkey stream. You lost that a long time ago. Don't worry. This is just your brain. Don't worry. Kadinu. Oh, Kadinu, right? He says the five discord profile pictures talking show. Boring. I want them to be animated. I want them to be Mario. So considering we are five discord avatars right now talking, I feel called out. I really do. I do too. But I don't think that- I feel a little frampered. Never listened to a podcast. You're watching a sleeping person. Are they really going to say this about handsome guy? Look at him. Look at, he's a... Look. They act like you're not extremely aroused looking at that man. All right. This guy says, lol, they're trying to defend themselves. Well, it's because we understand the tactics of the opposition. You gave him benefit of the doubt. He clearly said, den fend. Yeah, he said, den fend. You're right. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, which I should not have. Also, he said them, yeah, lol, they're- It's almost like we're honest people who may have good argumentation and we're arguing against someone that is extremely intellectually lazy and people don't like that. It's like trying to defend yourself is on the same level as, wow, you think you're right. You're like, yeah, yeah. I guess I do. Yeah. Yeah, I do until I learn otherwise, yeah. So moving right along, we have an IR legend, one, two, three, he says, tin. Sorry, yep. Tin, our videos and spending this long to discuss one line in one of your videos. What a snooze fest, lol. Ironic again because Sunky is currently pretending to be asleep. However, we'll ignore that because that would go over IR legend one, two, three's head. You can, people have been discussing famous quotes and singular lines from philosophers and famous figures throughout history for decades upon decade, hundreds of years, millennia potentially. A single line is, there can be a lot behind it, especially if it isn't true when you have to discuss all the ways in which it isn't true. Is, were they all 50 year old white guys though? I don't know, they probably were. Yeah, then fuck them then. Yeah, fuck them. Hmm. Oh, Bufaluf says, I hate these guys. Oh, wow. Someone considered that a overly quick judgment, but apparently it's wrong. Bufaluf, no. I guess that is, yeah, it's pretty fair another thing about it. Yeah, we are very hateable. Milagranakia says, why are people so ready to be pathetic and whiny, lol? I don't know why you say that about Twitch chat, but it's around. It's like, feels weird reading that after all the ones we just read. It's like, yeah, I don't know, Milagranakia. I don't know. Holy shit, these guys need to stop interrupting the donkey video. No, it's in the name, my dude. No. I would pause through each individual thought because a single sentence or paragraph can be, you know, it can contain many, many different thoughts and they should be dissected independently of one another, potentially. But if you see something we do that's wrong, feel free to point it out. Lucky 7V7N. We like you, dude. God, these guys are dumb. There should be a comma after God and there is no punctuation in that sentence. He's talking too bad. Yeah, trackpad gamer, the joke went so far over their heads. I would like to know which joke it was because we identified the joke and we explained why the joke didn't make sense. Well, much like. Or it was just a very flimsy deflection. Didn't we employ, we did this with AT-AT chat and I think Nostalgia Critics in points, but oh, Cinema Sins is definitely one. Do the whole, we will interpret as joke and then interpret as serious to make sure we cover all bases, you know? It's okay, you can judge jokes too, guys. Jokes can be shit. Absolutely jokes can be shit. There are the Louis D.K.'s and there are the Samantha B's. And the Ghostbusters 2016's. There you go. Can you take advice from these nobodies? Yeah, you should, we're full of great advice. Why do you have to be somebody to be able to give advice? Yeah, good advice is good advice, regardless of where it comes from. Am I a nobody? Yes, do people love me? Not really. Do I know my opinion of video games sometimes? Yeah, sometimes. There you go. It doesn't mean anything. You know, feelings can be very easily hurt sometimes and they don't appreciate it. Let's see, we have God, I hate these pseudo-intellectuals. Well, what can you do? What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? We're hate DaveyYT20 hates us. If we were real intellectuals, maybe he'd like us or if we never even claimed to be intellectuals, he'd like us. Or if we were dumb like Dunkey. Now SuperG64 says they haven't even made any real comments. Not even a single real comment yet. You haven't made any statements or comments or observations, nothing to do with it. Yeah, we just sat in the stream and went. Yeah, me, me, me, me, me, me. Which brings us back, of course. Because I just found it weird. I think of what he played, we made decent commentary on what we were listening to and it wasn't even that harsh. I think it's fair to say, if you're making a discussion video and you've solved by new, I can assume a motivation there that's very, very deliberate in construction for your video. It seems that way. I'd be curious why you couldn't just look at top comments there, Dunkey. Because he does, and I remember us saying this, he's like, oh my God, there's a portion of the video where he actually addresses some arguments. There's like one of the newest comments says something that's vaguely an argument. It's like, oh my God, here we go, content. So yeah, he would have been willing. If only we had known he was doing it, we would have posted some new good arguments there. Anyway, he returns to us. Let me just find. All right, I can't wait for this banger. This one is three and a half minutes, so I can't promise there will be content, okay? That's all. Gonna be more of the same probably, but. Okay, this one, right? Now this one, they really get me on this one. People are actively subscribing to this. Like, huh? I'm curious what people are subscribing to. I guess they're subscribing to his YouTube. I don't even know how many people watch his Twitch, but his Twitch, obviously I'm unimpressed with his Twitch so far, but this is a small snippet. So what do I know? This is literally, I've watched hours of his content, probably only about three, just because it's like, oh, I like his videos, let's see how his streams are. And it's him just extremely lethargic, narcoleptic almost, just bumbling his way through a game as unenthusiastically as humanly possible. And I'm just like, this is very different. I don't get it. This guy has some kind of pirate. Oh, wait, it skipped us back. That's what just happened, sorry. This is a bit tisamy with the. I can't let that get in. No, no more donkey than I absolutely have to absorb. This man has. Okay, this is Twitch for you. At least Twitch videos in Watch Together don't function very well. Oh, no. Come on, baby. Do it for me. Share of a kind deal, Ward. Hold us back again. Racist. How do I fix this? What time do you want it to be? I'll give it a try. 30, 26, 30-ish? Yeah. Kind of curious to see how he tackles that guy's criticism is he, does he actually respond to like really weak arguments or? Yeah, it goes back to 30. Yeah, I guess it's gonna reload, yeah. All right, let me, I'll make a new room for refreshes for all of us. For fuck's sake. I'm sorry, it's not me that's doing this. It's Satan or Joel. It is and I hate you for it. Fuck off. My God. How could you say that? You know, Maura, I'm just gonna go so far as to say that if you killed yourself, it'd probably just like a net positive. My name is Musho. Learn it well. My name is Musho. That's very... I wasn't paying enough attention. I'm so sorry, Musho, I guess. My lord, Musho. When I was insulting you, I didn't mean to get your name incorrect. Musho. Movie Bob, is that you? Musho. All right. Smell the mustard on your bread. Yeah. My bucket of mustard. Okay, let us... It has already dragged us to zero, so that's a good sign, right? That's different. Yeah, yeah. 20... I mean, we need to watch it from the 13 minute mark. I'm okay with that. We can just let it right out while we talk about it. Chase, please. This guy, fucking no. Please work this time, please. Fuck. Has it carried on for you guys? Yeah, I'm on 12 seconds. It's resetting, because it's... Can you use the Twitch bar in the screen? That's actually how I did it the first time. Are we trying to get to like 23 minutes? 26 and a half. Let me try and see if my computer's... Can everybody choose 26 and a half and we all let go of the click? I did it. I did it. I'm magic. I'm magic. I'm the chosen one. I'm still at 14, 15. It jumped ahead, because I think people were clicking. 26 minutes, you said? Oh my God. We got it. We might need to... We might need to not pause to make this work. Okay, okay. Give it a try. I mean, we can handle a couple extra seconds of... We're not going to miss anything, too. Amazing. Let's try and get to 30 minutes. This one, right? That's the goal. I have to suffer through this stream. What do you think about Amazing Spider-Man 2? It's fine. Okay. New artistic direction. Drama, big drama is back, you guys. The graphics are terrible. The graphics are so bad, in fact, that they completely ruin the game. This game was the legend of Zelda Wind Waker. That was a great game. So people were wrong. That is the point that he's opening with. One thing you're going to see as a consistent trend throughout this video is consistent deflection. So get ready for that. Don't worry, everybody, this is not repeating. The thing about the conversation about Wind Waker is you can totally find it ugly. You really want to hear it again. Oh, is he just doing the same thing again? Wait, it's going to... A shot-ish? Yeah, shot a whole thing. This is... This is good, you guys. They do like a lot of things. That's good. Any of the points that we raise? Nah, he's not going to drag some on right now. Just like... I rattled the monkey cage pretty good. This is my most disliked video ever. And there's the motivation for this video. You didn't like my video? Fuck you. Why'd you guys get to be dicks about it? You guys just let me have it a bit, you goddammit. But he does this all the time. If anybody even slightly disagrees with him, he'll mention you. He'll put you on blast. He doesn't let it slide. Just because he did it to you doesn't mean he does it to everyone. God. There was that one guy who made the argument. It was interesting because he made that video talking about not bravely default, but Occotat Traveler. And the dude was literally like... Is he the only one laughing at his pretending to be? It's pretty priceless. The point that was just made is he always got to do a... put him on blast. There's essentially just any form of criticism. And here he is, putting clips of us up just to laugh and snore at us. It's like, okay. Interesting. He said this is these dumb guys that disagree with me. He's like, oh, well then shut the fuck up. Yeah, I don't know if we're able to play the game, but we're more on... Because I feel like we're a little different when it comes to some stuff. We go through the whole thing rather than... Yeah, but surely like people are watching this Twitch stream to like... watch him, right? I want to hear him hear us. They just gave him 250 Jimmy's. Yeah. I thought that's what you said. It's like a lawyer slipping into a legal contract. Suck it. I don't want to say like finding an argument and addressing it like that. I ain't normally the tight, but to say things like this, but Donkey is really testing the limits of fair use. Well, it only plays for another half minute and then it's done. But fine. But maybe address some of the best ones too. Why not? I got his fun to dunk on shitty comments. Totally go for it. Don't only do that, right? Especially the golden discussion. Which is a little weird to me. I'm owning his fans basically. I've been talking shit on beloved games for years and people have been getting pissed off at me for years. I don't trust anything he has to say about Assassin's Creed Unity. Just him in general. I just don't trust what he has to say about any game. Wow. Yeah, I like what he's... When he's so seriously about games, I like that. I think he could use some work. He's actually... I've noticed a trend where if he loves something and it's purely just in praise of something, he does it a phenomenal job of selling it to you and capturing what makes this game good and why it makes him feel good. When he's in love with the game, he makes the best sort of videos about it. But if he's trying to break something down, trying to be a little bit critical... He said I'm good. These people are complimenting me. This fucks with my narrative, but Snore is going Snore. Jesus Christ. Yeah, so that's it. He plays this until Mark says that he makes really good videos. He's like... That was maybe like what, three minutes total? Yeah. He didn't even commit. Yeah. That was really disappointing and it doesn't surprise me at all that it's something Donkey would do. It's incredibly lazy, like his videos. It was unfunny, like his videos. So unfortunately though... In isolation, it had just been like, so what was the point of all that? It's like, you're boring. Okay. It's great because right when we started to be positive, it's like, Donkey, we're being so fucking fair. Yeah, it was on a stream. Donkey covered it. He responded to that video. He addressed it. Yeah, it's probably just because people were spamming it and he's like, fine, I'll respond in the most condescending passive aggressive fashion possible and act like I'm just miles above it. That would be that. Unfortunately, because of the matter in which it gets covered, I want to see what his chat was commenting while that was going on. I would love to see what the chat was saying. Let's fucking do it. I should've been very full of wisdom. These guys are so fucking grading. I hate these guys. Why are they analyzing it so carefully? What? We're having conversations. That's my favorite. I hate all these guys already. I love that gamers think they're therapists. I don't even know. Is it because we suggested go to school to be a therapist? Is it because we suggested a motivation for doing something? You don't have to be a therapist to do that. It's just the usual projection of like these guys think they're so fucking smart. They think they know how to get in your head. These pseudo-intellectual pretentious nonsense. Try harder though. We have these guys are cringe. I don't know. I think we're pretty cool. These guys sure don't know what a joke is. You're on donkey stream. Clearly neither do you. I want to make sure it's said that fucking shield is baked into his audience. It's a joke. If you catch yourself saying it's a joke whenever someone says anything about donkey, please reconsider. It's a joke. Please. You need a reboot. You need to stop what you're doing. It's like a gag reflex at this point. If you're a fan of donkey, you don't have one anymore. Amazingly we have two back to back. These guys are nerds. It's probably true. I guess I'm pretty nerdy. Not us. Not us here watching we pretend to sleep on Twitch. We are not nerds. We are very chad. We are mega apex chad men. Dunkies fans are like massive slizz slayers. They get it all. Let's see. We have these dudes actually talk for 10 hours straight. No, I'm bisexual. They really do pause every frame. How about that? Disonesty in our advertising. These guys are literally the caged monkeys. I don't think you know what literally means. I'm not a caged monkey. I'm upset now. Not only I'm not caged and I am not a monkey. I am an ape, however. Well. Are these guys missing the point on purpose? It was a joke. It's a joke. Guys, it's a joke. This guy really knows what he's talking about and aren't salty about your success. We're not talking about his stuff. We're disappointed in you. You mad bro? You mad bro? Bro, you mad bro? You wish you were as good as Donkey? Bro, Donkey's infallible bro. That's what I was thinking. I was thinking through that whole thing. I sure wish I was as incredibly talented as Donkey. I wish I was doughy and was dating a skeleton. Wow. I'm a skeleton in a gas mask. What the fuck, dude? You want to hang out sometime? I mean, well. Why do these people care so much? And then there's that emoji, but I don't know what it's... Is that a laughing emoji? It's laughing, crying emoji. Angry, snorting out of nose emoji. The default, like, TikTok condescension. I'm so... I'm laughing at how stupid you are. You're wrong. I picture the emoji saying, that's probably the noise. Why do these people care so much? Oh, I guess. We care enough to... Because it's entertaining to talk about how wrong people are. Yeah. How can you talk for 10 hours? Well, it's like... Imagine talking just for 10 hours. Take it a little slow. Every day. You trade out with some guests and hosts. You go around. You know that thing you do at your job where you hand french fries to people like that but with friends and things you care about. How can you do that for 8 hours? Good one. I like it. I have to remember that one. Fuck you. Sorry, I got a little... I think that when you have 5, 6 people rotating with different topics, because one video is a wide variety of topics, important to note. And you're talking about things you care about and things you have an investment in and you want to be entertaining and you enjoy the discussion and you have a lot of people who care about what you're saying. It's actually not that difficult to go on for a long time. Yeah. It's fun, dare I say. Just because Miko715, no one wants to listen to you talk for so much as 10 seconds, don't think that it's incredible that people can talk for 10 hours. Yes. They're being very frammed right now, I would say. These comments. I never get sick of that. It says, these guys are lame. Fair enough. Just because it's true, doesn't mean you have to say it out loud. Yeah, I was going to say that cuts. That cuts deep. My 2021 is ruined. Yeah. Simon E. Milamit Zaboy says babies. You did the best you could. Babies. That's not true at all. I did it before. I got a… These freaks are obsessed with you. We've made one monkey video. Is it? Isn't this crazy? Did RiceGum leave that comment? How many people are we obsessed with? We get that a lot about any person we cover. We're obsessed with them. Yeah, we're obsessed with the people. You guys are a bunch of Ginny Nicholson obsessed sims. Two videos have covered women three? Two or three. people like we just got a hundred of them for every person we follow around and i want to know why gabin gauge is so obsessed with us that he's watching someone sleep watching us yeah it's weird weird that's kind of next level honestly uh let's see we have these guys wish they were dunkey that is um that is not correct the only thing i wish is that i had a house that'd be nice he has a house that sounds cool but what um like well what attribute is it that dunkey has that i want is it his horrible voice being out of shape his pale white skin his boring presentation his lack of comedic talent i there's so many to choose from i can't quite focus on one and wish it was mine but his brain dead army of fans that will defend him to the literal death now that i don't know i you know i could i could put that to good use that sounds useful at least and he often does mark for example i i i was yeah i which is something that he was discussing in the part that he was sleeping through which must have been really awkward yeah i don't i was gonna say i don't think dunkey even fucking made the connection that that was mark i think he's just that disconnected anything other people say about him maybe he someone says the neck beard rags no i keep myself very well trimmed um as i've said multiple times on e-fap i it bugs me when people do not take care of their facial hair and i don't want to be uh don't want to be hypocritical in that regard you hate to see me right now let's see middle guy hates dunkey uh oh that's mauler oh man mauler i don't think go with shanks mauler what's your fucking problem dude well see this is the weird adventure i'm on because it's like i used to watch all his legal legends videos all the time then he started to annoy me because he moved into general criticism and he was being hailed as like a really fucking insightful critic while also delivering it really funnily and it's just like okay a lot of stuff the ever says i've always found to be very meh and i've heard it before and that wasn't better culminating than with the video where he made all of total biscuits points from about a decade ago about igm i remember being like this is not new the idea that aggregate sites are shit when it comes to reviewing games people like no he's making really good points like okay he speaks with the confidence that makes you think he's giving a really fresh and interesting and insightful opinion but yeah upon the slightest bit of pressure it just it just falls apart and then he started releasing more controversial and pushy takes with the veneer of comedy and i was like all right this is getting a bit much now and then his fans would be like wow you took it that seriously huh it's like what are you it fucking neck beard i don't know when i'm supposed to take it seriously anymore it's too confusing he makes a point you're like it's a joke if you didn't like it but if you did like it it's insightful like okay so uh yeah i don't know i don't hate him i just it's annoying that's all and i think he can do good you can make good video maybe sometime i haven't seen one lately though i haven't seen whatever but i'm sure they exist through sheer probability now we have you made a seven hour video about him okay right no i don't even know what that's referring to is he talking to he's talking to us the commenter i guess yeah they're once again under the impression that the entire video is is sponsored focused on one video in this case his and uh you know that they're not looking into it they're not checking they're not making sure that that's like any sort of fabrication they're just going oh pat myself well wasn't it true yeah absolutely these guys are fucking pathetic and i'm just gonna believe that the was it this is like vague but like i think it was a 40 minute video from jenny nuchason and there was a grand total of two and a half hours of response from us when people chopped it up but it's it's known as an 11 hour stream it's all about her it's like okay yeah it's asa because you can just watch the timeline timecode bar thing and that's that's all you need to know there you go yeah um the long is scary it's okay dunkey you are better than them we love you okay that's fine argue with that women can't be strong weird things see that that guy's making a lot of sense yeah women can't be strong i don't know i'm guessing that it's just a sort of reaction to efab that they've probably heard somewhere that we're anti-women something i don't know i mean you know you can just say it and people will go oh yeah yes yes it's like he must be like they must be angry because they hate women women can't be strong like what's happening what i mean it takes a lot of wit to look into something and form like an accurate opinion that's easier to just go oh yeah that guy chase face is a pedophile and then people go yeah fuck that guy i knew it i fucking hate that little fucky like it's avatar it's like wow that's fucked up it's true though yeah what are you gonna do you know so it's you how can they be so dense and not understand sarcasm holy shit of course it's it's just a joke of course how could we have possibly missed that of course just a joke uh fucking stuges rip hey i like the stuges yeah beloved icons of american cinema yeah these guys love joe rogan i've enjoyed many of his podcasts yeah i've listened to a few of them they're cool i like him yeah i i i avoid 95 of them with people i don't really care about but yeah it's good background music well i'm playing mmo's i like the idea that he very accusatorily pokes at us like you like joe rogan we're like yeah he's right fucking incels i've never met him he's a cool podcast just so loaded it's like these guys probably watch jordan peterson it's like no he's you know he's fine sometimes yeah he makes some good points yeah sometimes not you know it's like everybody's dude you know hit limits they are being hypocrites about what i would love to be told dude he's so he knows we'll be hypocrites so much he's a lafik look at him he's already you know the right he's like oh hypocrites oh yeah it's not working they literally pause every three seconds to try and pick it apart and they add nothing to this well we actually add a lot i felt like we added stuff play it yeah i legit feel as if you can watch this and listen to this and even the parts that we've just listened to in our own coverage of this what i'll charitably call coverage and you haven't noticed that we are clearly having discussions and talking about new things and adding to it then i don't know they're still pointing trying to convince you of anything really uh nine hours these fools damn what do you think it would have been okay for it to be eight i mean we enjoyed ourselves and made money i mean all right fair enough foolish we are k billiam man this is what it's like to completely miss the of course it's just a joke it's just a joke the point was it was a joke and you missed that point idiot of course and we have the uh literally the most funny thing i've seen all day little debbie cakes in my butt seriously sit down and talk about the shit for nine hours no no that's your answer who's sick discord pro watcher dude i mean they're fine i think all this picture is a pretty damn good today look at those yeah sure yeah that's fine and yeah and even when we did the stream they're fine you know i think dunkey's just jealous personally they look fine to me um like it's not like we were trying to like i don't know like show them off i will say rags your your your former tiny rags getting pet aggressively i really want that to come back at some point i miss it sincerely it's a good one mm-hmm it will make a return in avengers in gay oh my god next up we have all of these guys can fucking suck a cock lmao they are all wrong damn we could actually yeah okay i'm a suit i'm a super fan of the next one i'm not gonna lie yeah mollar suck's gorilla dick hell yeah what am i gonna say to that they've got they've got images that i can't disprove i am struggling to it's out there people know gorilla dick that's just how it that's how it be what does that mean when the guy's like y'all suck an armadillo dick or something like that how'd i go i don't know anyone in chat know what i'm talking about it's like a famous sound bite find out maybe they do mollar expose yeah it's like some blackout being like suck an armadillo dick next we got they're just jealous because they smell of dog piss okay george you do you buddy i don't know that's what uh that's what rags does when people disagree with them i've pissed on them remarks the dominance like oh no i can't believe this uh how'd you get so tall up there um let's say i think george is projecting um i can't believe i'm butter says imagine nine hours of talking about someone else's opinion on a video game yeah i can imagine that it's not too difficult yeah i don't have to i was there yeah through it see it's like this entire chat just seems like those people like let's say you're a hard hardcore republican and you're told uh obama wants to enslave white people and like you're stupid enough to believe that then you actually just every time you see obama on tv you're just spout off to anyone who wants to hear ain't that that negro that wants to fuck and enslave the whites and just you keep saying that and like revving yourself up that's basically the equivalence of what we're seeing here is as people and lying to themselves and getting mad over this this reality that they've like fabricated for themselves and then they immediately talk about dog piss and gorilla dicks and fram it's just getting to be too much yeah yeah it's it's all these people do they seem like massive idiots um certain destroy someone said where's the lie chase destroys those fucking nerds uh fair enough always a good thing to call other people i mean again you are the one spending your time watching dunkey stream on twitch but indeed we are the nerds you've got us point to you me me i'm a nerd yeah a clown theory says why is everyone unknown loser youtuber so obsessed with dunkey um well we're pretty all unknown you before so i don't know maybe you should even get into this hundreds of thousands of people have heard of us which is not terrible i suppose malar is like fucking like a million subs rex makes like thousands on patreon even though he doesn't even like do anything anymore yeah it's like fucking nobody dunk stream you should euthanize this furry says foxy star fox wait a minute foxy star fox wants the fairy euthanized and we have buttered cornbread yum he says these guys are so fucking brain dead yeah they're they're not intellectuals like uh donkeys unfortunate it's almost like all these comments are just like identical and devoid of any real substance yeah it's uh truly a just what a gaggle of simpletons it's all i can uh all i could say so um there's one underwhelming well you know uh in that absolute bog of troglatism there was one weary comment that i i wanted to make sure that we see all right let's see this video was really immature he takes the dumbest opinions instead of actually constructive ones you've got it how would you like to be on the show remember that analogy i made about Wonder Woman 84 with the ship and the hurricane Jared's that man at the wheel Jared's that one brave soul face Jared retardism he's the one last we have a struggling valiantly against the Mongol hordes at the gates of Rome long last we have we have a new Jared we have a new Jared Jared is Chad Jared where are you yeah hopefully he didn't fall into the mob mentality but Jared i feel like you're on the path to greatness you probably have a massive wiener Jared how would you like to make a million dollars right now we got a business opportunity for you maybe that's Jared Jared you know and they're defending e-fap all these years later no no Jared genesis he's there it's all to count oh Jared's back Jared is some old Laura missing Jared is chadifying Jared genesis does not like it when people insult e-fap okay that's for him and him alone to do um but yeah that's just a hater as much as there's probably more we could discuss i am i am rumbled that's i don't want to i don't want to say any swear words i'm out you know i'm right i'm personally extremely frammed yeah we right now i'm oh i know oh Jared that Jared i get it you call him Jared i was honestly ready to leave like halfway into the one room in discussion because fuck that movie yeah we did it though we got through it all and i got some editing ahead of me to be able to get these e-faps out because one of them's already blocked worldwide so that's fun thanks i think it happened that was that was fun i thought it it was it was a wonderful way to ring in the new year we had so many ghastly poos everyone talking about how shitty Wonder Woman 84 was what a disaster and then we we closed off i think to celebrate we should all watch C-Lab 2021 because it's a ripe opportunity unfortunately we cannot watch C-Lab 2021 because Mahler and myself and Jay and i think Moriarty Moriarty was there yeah um we discovered many wonderful films that we have to watch before that so that's a shame however i will allow the suspense to permeate into the future and after our recording ceases because i don't want to give away some of the juicy deets on what films we might be covering later i'm personally excited to see Jackie Chan and Arnold Schwarzenegger together on the silver screen i'm so fucking tired right now yeah same um so like i said the first half or first e-fap 117 this is 118 you're listening to right now i don't know if this one will be blocked worldwide when it goes offline and it means no one can see it luckily because of my incredible technology and they need to realize that it's just a joke it is just a joke that they clearly the content id is clearly fucking missing the point what a bunch of nerds yeah they're the kind of people like oh they don't they the point went over their head is what i would say yeah it's just a lot of nitpicking from what i saw well i guess we i can't believe that yeah in closing for the for donkey's response what the hell am i supposed to do with that all right i'm bored that was actually embarrassing for you like i'm gonna go to sleep great fucking job elevating every single point we made in that like three minutes span and just like proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are completely incapable of any criticism extremely bitter and very just what's there to say i mean you were you made the point of how fucking right we are about all of your shortcomings and you will continue to do so well into the future which is a name donkey make a shitty video we'll cover it we'll be right there yeah sargon asked what there was what was causing the death of cinema sick well donkey there you go and yet clarify the story appreciate it clarification efap 117 the one that we started with i showed too much of wonder woman apparently and so it's blocked and uh i've got a copy locally that was recorded i'm gonna obviously try and edit in a cover for basically all of the coverage that's a whatever opacity to try and snatch whatever piracy tisms they think i'm trying to commit get it back up as soon as possible and the same may happen for this one so unfortunately unlisted links are not going to work you guys are gonna have to wait because even if you have the link to this one right now and it gets blocked worldwide there's nothing you can do um don't have to wait that's okay and i miss him much it's okay so who is here tonight we all had fun together so many memories i'm here tonight exactly uh incredibly appreciative of all the i saw all those super chats coming in rags and i will absolutely demolish them we will thank you so much for them and of course i hope you guys are having a wonderful new year already you know no breaks on this train um efap will be back at some point i love i love all of you and these are always super fun and thanks for having me and happy new year yeah and thanks consider a more distant acquaintances all i mean kind of hurts that you would reject me like that but i understand okay love comes from awkward and on that thanks um thank you uh fucking have you been here the whole time cap i have jesus you fucking you massacred um well thank you so much and southpaw and i would name everyone who's been here but i honestly can't remember anymore it's been too long uh thank everyone but jumping in and and doing their flisms and of course chat for keeping this company is there anything else you guys want to say before we sign off thank you for having me on mauler uh thank you for dropping uh the fact that i made a video on my spider man 2 is shit right in front of nerderotic and sargon that was priceless uh anyone that has not seen that video yet needs to watch that video i worked very hard on it and criticize you with the figurines oh yeah oh i i just got a comment on saying please get laid um okay now oh yeah okay what now step two what is this kind of it's awfully late it's one it's one in the morning it's it's i mean we don't have it i don't have any energy after i mean after all this yeah what's that yeah rain check on that i will say uh i make videos that i'm very pleased with my channel's chaseface uh i think you can just search chaseface and find it usually cover a lot of fucking weeb games and sometimes anime if it's a thing you're into uh my videos get no fucking views these days because i took too long and now youtube is just like yeah fuck this guy we're not gonna push this video to anyone that's subbed so if you want to go watch through any of my videos i put a lot of time and effort make sure they're not shit and help me get a little bit of money to pay off some debt and maybe buy some VR shit i don't know it's up to you my name is chaseface and i make videos look at my videos dude is that fucking chaseface yeah i'm a pedophile you're a faggot i'm sorry i didn't mean to say that don't worry there's no there is no concern for demonetization because it'll get blocked anyway it's fine it's true who knew that our ending note would be a minor we started with adolf hitler oh that was good i get it i think it was very strong um we started with talking about adolf hitler and we ended with pedophiles slash i don't know whatever else we've said so i'm pretty sure this this dream is a dumber and we ended with referencing talking about yeah so what else is there to say guys other than good bye good night and good fuck off to 2020 keep it fram my dudes ram it up yeah everybody i'm good you do bye bye gotta give it up gotta give it up give it up for the green lightsaber yeah green lightsaber robot shot that rocket at those ships and blew them to smithereen you need the edge saber