 Thanks for staying with us now. The International Day of Conscience is a global day of awareness celebrated on April 5th, commemorating the importance of human conscience. It was established by the United Nations General Assembly on July 25th, 2019, with the adoption of the UN Resolution 73329. The preamble rather to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that disregard and contempt of human rights have resulted in barbarous act which have outraged the conscience of humankind and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and what has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common man. I'm just wondering, do we have conscience in Nigeria? I don't know about any part of the world because sometimes again when you see some of the things that people do and this is not again because every when you hear issue of conscience and you just want to go straight to leaders even as Nigerians as humans do we really have conscience anymore because again there are some things that we do so fellow human being that you know it's almost like where is this coming from like you really you know when they fear say you know the fear God you know that phrase I think is gone because people just do anything that they feel like doing. I mean you just took it out of my mouth it's just a point that say fear God do and if you I think it's embedded in morals so because of how things are maybe a cultural something yeah so it's gradually that conscience so people look at the bigger things like stealing maybe millions but what about the little things you do maybe even seen someone the other day I saw a witness an accident and people were just passing by. Yeah or bringing out your phones and even the person that even knocked this guy down came out and was just watching this guy had to shout and like what are you guys doing do something about this take him to the hospital so it's it's it's further than just thinking about the big picture stealing billions killing it's about those little things it's also about a little bit about empathy too do you really look at something how would you want people to treat you you know treat people the way you want people to treat you so it's a really important day I hope you know people start to fear God I know there are people that don't believe in God anyways but just whatever you want to fear something I beg just fear something because like it's really it's really scary you know you see people do things and you just wonder do you really have a conscience because again these are things that like you rightly said the moral standards that held some of the things that our fathers their own fathers did it held the fabric of you know society and you know you know lately I've been watching a lot of videos online about how the children especially in the United States have been indoctrinated into some very you know I just wonder so where is the conscience where are these people where are they taking these people so I mean this thing is deep because now it's almost like if you just sneeze small and say oh this is how I feel automatically you know there's no there's no guide there's nothing like moral so so you know there are some standards that we cannot go boundary yeah that boundary because you keep on saying I because even where your freedom stops that's where my own starts you know it's it's it's a bit of a dicey thing because in a bit to want to say oh everybody's freedom must be respected at the same time we are losing you know some level of hold that we had like at least sanity in fact that's the word I'm looking for while losing some level of sanity because now everybody's just confused you know I can't wake up tomorrow and say I'm a tooth fairy just accept me like that don't question it but no ma what do you have to say about conscience consideration queen I knew you were going to save I knew you were going to save my love consideration I think by and by what I believe that we're beginning to lose what we knew to be humanity what it means to be human right and like glory rightly said it's about putting yourself in the position of someone else if you are the one on the receiving end and this is a question I mean I can't stop talking about it who are because I always like most times when I ask people that question if you were the one on the receiving end how will you feel and I find out that people's behavior changes because now you're the one taking the brunt of whatever it is that is coming and really it also ties to what we had also said about values we are gradually losing what made us human beings being able to look out for one another being able to live peace simply and in harmony towards one another so when that is lost it comes to exactly what you were saying insanity will become the order normal please please please I do not identify as a human being so we will continue to respect what everybody wishes to be identified with but at the end of the day the question is how does it affect the other person it's not okay for my own rights to be respected alone without considering the rights of somebody else I can respect what you did what you want to do but how does it affect me as a person how does it affect my children as a person how does it affect my community or my society and that's why everybody's going to be accountable when we talked about the individuals I will bring it back to leadership because that used to be the example that used to be the benchmark for a lot of people to look up to to say okay these are the people are looking up to we should emulate them back in the days you found all of those rules and some of the things that helped people to fall in line but where are those rules how are they implemented what are they doing now everybody's living for himself and deciding what is right or wrong for himself oh definitely anarchy would be the the result of the day absolutely okay so let's quickly run through what we found Larry let's start with you it's about blessing see you actress don't to decay recently expressed her joy at the rest of the controversial blogger don't to root to publicly insults blame and intrude on such a delicate and sensitive issue she needs to feel their pain and I also saw another article I think today still which says she's been granted bill of about 10 million Naira maybe I'll have to confirm that but that's what's out there currently so my take on this is maybe again we will have to trade with caution when we are trying to talk about some sensitive issues such as death and especially the controversy that surrounded that particular situation and I think this arrest was linked to that person that died I think it was ID that fashion person that the wife died right yes Ikechuku Obuna's wife so I mean where I read people's comments so many poor in support of words to the arrest and so on so it means people were not really happy with whatsoever her take was and she coming out and the middle the heat how hot it was then she coming out to give opinion and talk issuing some certain statements so I think we just have to be so you know I think that first of all is two things because I see her and I see that if we stay do the same thing yeah whenever there's a situation that is really hot on the like at the front burner of social media you would see them jump on it talk about it because I remember I remember that I had seen a few clips when they the there was the fight and all of that you know with the man the wife and all of that you know because she claims I mean she's a self-acclaimed relationship expert right maybe that's why she felt the need to to talk about the issue but like you rightly said you must learn to draw the line set boundaries even if social media gives you the opportunity to talk in every matter it's not every issue you must put your mouth inside and also even how even approach it to those matters so I think the major issue was how she approached it so many people are not happy especially the disease family was not really happy about it true okay so let me take no more your what's in the news again just to add quickly conscience comes in you know when you're talking about other people's stories other people without being sensitive to how they're going to receive it and then you ask yourself what if you were the one whose story was out there how would you feel if these were the reactions or these were the things that people were saying but again a lot of people don't pay attention to that they don't know they don't know how to put their themselves in other people's shoes because in hot news right so let me give one of the first people to say something about it for the it's all for the gram they want to train you want to get more followers absolutely I guess there are consequences that come with some of these things absolutely go ahead so my story has to do with our the federal government it says that FG to splash over 320 billion Naira on tertiary institutions so the story has it that the our president's major general Muhammad to Buhari has approved the sum of 320 billion 345 million and 40 thousand three 835 Naira as the 2023 intervention funds for public tertiary education institutions around the country and all the institutions including colleges of technology universities the polytechnics they are supposed to benefit from this fund so and over the years we've had over I think some trillion amount you know in trillions that has been disbursed since 1993 now a bit of my concerns for this story was that when I saw it I was wondering that how much of this money was available for when the universities were on strike maybe I need clarity on how these funds are to be disbursed what they're supposed to cover so to speak because I'm wondering if we had this much money available why was part of it not initiated we experienced a long strike the in the situation of almost a year of students being out of stride and I think that caught my attention was that it's supposed to be like a parting gift and I'm wondering this is the work of public service how is it supposed to be are you doing Nigerians a favor I mean I was just completely confused about this story because I'm wondering if funds were available in this quantum why did we not use wisdom to deal with the situations that we felt with over the months and then at the end of the day we at the end of the day we find out that students have been on strike students have been out of school we've lost quite a bit we can't even quantify the damages that have been done over the months so those are my questions I mean and my concerns really because this this is huge and they're supposed to represent the highest disbursement for for the benefit of institutions and I don't I don't recall institutions who have praised the administration saying that oh over eight years we have we have done well with I mean it's almost like we have been at an all-time low so please what I don't know maybe I'm confused or I'm not sure what but I mean I just need someone to really explain to me how this is going to solve the several months in fact almost a year of of of the education troubles that we've had in the country so number I like the fact that you're raising a lot of questions sadly I do not have an answer for you because again on this table I took a story of a jam registrar former jam registrar that was you know I think charged to code for a fraud of five billion himself and his family I think Jennifer took I remember that story his children also Jennifer took another story of someone I can't remember what is what which of the educational institution you know so even amidst all of these things I don't know why it seems like the federal government just like big you like name-dropping you know 320 billion you splash you know you know I say it's a parting gift it's not a parting gift right it's it's really appalling because now I have children that are about to go into the university and I know what is taking costing us as a family to be able to put those to be able to give them quality education right you you're not giving anybody any gift right education is the right of every Nigerian and it makes no sense that at this kind of headline so maybe let me blame it on the on the newspaper that is maybe the one they want their paper to sell so the ones is sensational because I don't understand how this is even making news because we need to move past all of these things and get the job done but you know what let me take my story because I don't want to stress myself no I don't have answer for you so I mean I like this story because I mean I have maintained because I've followed this equity model story for a while and I have maintained the same thing and I keep on saying that nobody would carry anybody from Nigeria you know and travel all the way to the UK you know and the person will not be fining I didn't know that my organ was going to be removed you are you know because before they will before anything transactions or whatever will happen you would have been tested to see that your kidney I mean kidney is not I don't even know there's no part of your body that you have to test that it matches before we even leave to say okay yes we found a match for the person that wants to be you know that wants to go with kidney transplant so the former president rather of Nigeria has written to the UK court in the letter he was he addressed the letter to the chief clerk the central criminal court old ballet in London the is asking that he this clerk should intervene and they show that the UK government tempered justice with mercy on the matter and because right now a current madness at risk of being sentenced to 10 years imprisonment in line with the modern slavery act of 2015 of the United Kingdom after a London court had found him and his wife guilty of organ trafficking so this modern day slavery I have not read that act I would like to read it to understand what it is but I would like to say that you see there is something called you know even the acceptance to even go on that trip it's not like this person was like you know tied or whatever this person willingly there was a story I took one time I can't remember the country now that they go to sell their toes that's how bad the poverty is so the pink the tiny toes are like cheaper then the most expensive was the big toe I remember taking that story here so everybody understands that for economic reasons people would do things right so I don't want it to look like this people maybe like forced or cajole the guy yes but and again I really don't like the terminology organ trafficking do you understand maybe they just did not do a proper paperwork but there's no body this is not organ trafficking they didn't have this the organ from his and was he called his body and now took it you know to somewhere else he was clearly in the know that he was going to go on what's he called donate his is one of his kidneys to their daughter so I don't like the the caption even though I'm not a fan of government people right because you see this is the problem when we say do things right they don't do things right this is what you face because it would have been so easy if a lawyer came into this picture drafted an agreement you signed it do you understand and everybody's in the presence of a witness so you know that this is not because I mean I can do surrogacy right I can give you my my my organ if if if you need it and we wear a match do you know what I'm saying whether there's monetary exchange or not it's something I can do but let us begin to do things by the law you see this is where the problem is because you think oh I'm a big man and everything I can just not there you don't go enter one just because you are in a country where you know everything goes by the books so it's just a sad situation but the former president has written we hope they would temper justice with messy but I don't see him going out of that sentence he will probably serve maybe a lighter sentence on that note let's discuss oral health because stay with us