 The Bible says God is spirit. And then people talk about the Holy Spirit. So are there, is there God the spirit? Like I'm going to use my fists. Is there God the spirit over here in the Holy Spirit? Is it two separate spirits? So what Brother Marcus believes is you have God, the spirit. And he put his spirit in Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ died. He said, I'm going back to the Father. And then he put his spirit inside of us. The spirit of God lives in me. The same spirit that raised Christ from the dead is in me. So that's how I explain it to people. God is spirit, right? There's God. And he put his spirit in Jesus. He says he created the body. He put his spirit in Jesus. He put his spirit in Christ. You can sit and listen to that explanation that Marcus gave. And I think you'll come away kind of scratching your head. Matter of fact, I'm pretty sure you would come away scratching your head. The analogy they use that God took his spirit, put his spirit, put it into Jesus. When Jesus goes up, puts that same spirit in us. Okay. This issue, it seems like the more that certain people try to break it down and cover it and talk about it, the more convoluted it can become. And I understand, listen, trying to explain God to other human beings is difficult. He is unfigurable. He is unexplainable. Even with his word, we don't get a full, let's just be honest, we don't get a full picture of God, how he exists. I think we're gonna learn more, obviously, after we leave this world. But I think it's very important that we recognize that there are certain things that we do know that has been revealed to us that we should hold and teach and believe there are certain things about this belief of God's existence that are necessary for salvation. You know, I like to tell people this and I'll try to say this in all humility. You know, everything that I believe, I could back it up with Bible. So we're gonna hope that Marcus, as well as Geno, can back up what they believe with scriptures. I'll just say this as we look through it and then we compare it with scripture, we're gonna find out that it's not really accurate the way they are depicting it. And you wanna give people a little bit of grace for saying that the best way they could, what, how they describe. Now, neither of them will hold to the view or even the term trinity, but they do hold to something also that is not in the scripture as well. We'll get to that. We'll get to that, but it can be problematic and so maybe that's what the Bible says when James says, let not many of you be teachers. Because if after you finish explaining it and you had all these opportunities to explain it, you explained it over and over and over and you still haven't gotten better at it, well then we've got a problem. So Marcus has stated in the past that he doesn't like to use the term trinity. That's, listen, and that's fine. You don't have to use the term trinity, you really don't. If it was mandated to use the term, then it would be in the Bible. So there's no need to use a term, but the concept, it is mandated that we explain the concept. That is that the Holy Spirit is God and that Jesus is God. Obviously God the Father is God. And the Holy Spirit has existed forever, all throughout eternity. Same thing with the son, same thing with the father and they are all equal. There is no differentiation now in terms of what they do in our lives. Obviously there's gonna be some differences. Matter of fact, we're gonna see in Jesus's earthly ministry that he subordinates himself at that point in time but he's not eternally subordinate. But before I get ahead of myself, Marcus has stated that he would prefer to use the term Godhead. Since that term is the term that's used in the Bible. How many of you have heard of this term, the Godhead? Likely many of you have. Now it needs to be stated that unless you are reading the King James Version or New King James Version, you won't see the word the term Godhead in your Bible. Why? Because it's primarily for the King James Version. And so what I wanna do is go to the three times in the Bible where this term Godhead is used and let's see what it actually means. Because the term is not really satisfied in the word Godhead. Godhead is the translators of the King James Version, their translation for this term that we're gonna see. But there's three times, there's three places in the Bible where this term is used. So before we get into more of the videos and then more into what they're saying and their explanation, let's go to the scriptures first and look at the times where the word Godhead is used. One is Acts 17-20. He says, Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the divine nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. But now if we go over here to the first right part of the screen, this is the King James Version. For as much then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold or silver. So this term Godhead over here in the, this is the NASB Version, or the ESB, you'll see something like divine nature. And so where does this word come from? For Godhead, let me pull this up further. This word Godhead, it's a word that may look or sound familiar when I say it to you. It's the word Phaon. The word Phaon means divine or godly or divine nature or godly nature. As a matter of fact, each time that we see the word Godhead or where the word Godhead is translated those three passages, there's a slight difference in the word that's used for Godhead, but it simply means God, his nature, God nature, divine of deity, deity. That's what the word means when we go to Romans 120. And we're gonna come back to Romans a little bit when we listen to one of the other clips that we have, but then also in Romans 120. Let's go to, let's read from the King James Version. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead. And then over here where it says, instead of Godhead over there to be his divine nature under the NASB. Now under the NASB, the word that's used here is the word, excuse me, that taste, which is the same thing, divinity, deity, divine nature, which is why you see the translators today, NASB, ESV, and so forth, they'll use this divine nature. Now if you wanna use the term Godhead, that's perfectly fine as long as we know what you mean. When we use his divine nature or deity or godliness or being God, because that's simply what the word means, being God, that's real. When we see this word, feiates, which is, if you think about it, it's derived from the same word, feas, which means God. So this is being God, the nature of God, the qualities. In other words, all of God. That's what this word is, are you with me? And so again, if you wanna use Godhead, perfectly fine. Now here's the passage that people tend to bring up when we talk about the Godhead. And I think this proves, obviously, and clearly who and what the nature of God is. In Colossians 2-9, it says, for in him all the fullness of deity dwells in bodily form. King James Version, for in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. So all the fullness of Godhead, if deity or godliness or the full nature, the character, all of God, all of the fullness of it. And there's this word in the Greek, pleuroma, which is the fullness, pleuroma, tes, fea, tes, same thing. All of his fullness, all of his deity, all of who God is, is in Christ. Now I want that to be abundantly clear before we move forward. All of who God is, the fullness of God dwells in Jesus bodily. As a matter of fact, before we move on, there's a couple of other passages that I do wanna go ahead and probably put up as well. Let's go to Colossians 1. Let me put up Colossians 1-19, because I want to, I wanna look at that. Colossians 1-19, for it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness, pleuroma, the same word there, all the fullness, all of him to dwell in him. So for all of God to dwell in who? In Christ. This was pleasing to the Father. God wants all of the fullness in him. Now to us, it might, wait a second, well if all the fullness is in Christ, well then does that mean that there's something less than in God the Father? No. Again, it can be a little bit hard to understand for us because again, all we know is how we exist, how others exist. We don't know anyone like God. We've never met anyone like God. There is nothing or no one else like God. And so again, trying to wrap our head around it might be difficult, but to accept what he's saying, we can accept the English word that he's saying. He's saying that all of the fullness dwells in him. That goes along with what he says in 2nd, I mean Colossians 2, that all the fullness dwell in the Godhead. Or I'm sorry, that dwell in the Godhead, the fullness of him dwell in the Godhead. And so all of this should sort of make sense. Another pass I wanna look at in kind of in comparison is 2nd Corinthians 519. Let's put that on the screen as well. Namely, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespass against him. Well, that makes sense also, that God is in Christ. God is in Christ. And so, well, that kind of makes sense. Since he is God, the fullness of God is in him. Now, the questions are gonna be though, obviously, while Jesus was in his earthly ministry, Jesus would make some statements. We'll come to these statements, more than likely we'll come to these statements that Jesus made where he would say things like, I don't know, only the father knows, the father who sent me, he's greater than I. Things like that. How do we get to that point? Well, before we leave here and eventually come back to that point, just think in your mind what Jesus did. One, why he came. It's very important to know why he came and to think how he got here, kind of the mechanism. Remember, the Bible tells us in Leviticus 17 that, see, I have provided atonement on the altar for your souls, to make atonement for your souls. And the way he says this in the Hebrew, is almost, I myself, I'm doing this. Not that I'm sending someone else or I'm supplying the blood by someone else, I'm supplying the blood. But wait a minute, Jesus, I mean, God, you don't have blood, okay? Maybe when we understand what he's going to do that he's gonna take on flesh, by the way, this is not the first time that when Jesus takes on flesh, this is not the first time that God took, I'm sorry, that God took on flesh with Jesus. This is not the first time that God took on flesh. We see that all throughout Genesis. We see it in Exodus. We see it in Judges. So him taking on flesh is not a new thing. Him taking on flesh and having an earthly ministry dwelling amongst us, eating with us, sleeping with us, fellowshiping with us in a continual fashion like he did throughout his 30 plus ministry, ministerial years, that's different. But we have seen him before, but they didn't call him Jesus, although they did call him Lord. We'll come back to that, but Jesus makes a statement though. He says that when speaking about the kind of mind we should have being humble, that Jesus who did not see a problem with being equal with God, had no problem with being, that's the issue that we ought to look at also, that he himself is saying that he's equal with God. That wasn't a problem, but what did he do? He emptied of himself, empty himself of what? Well, we'll come back to that, but he did so voluntarily taking on the form of a bond server, coming down like us in a lower form. Why? Because he has to pay for the sin or pay the sin debt that is required on our behalf. And if God is gonna do that, well then if he comes in his fullness with his full glory, we got a problem, not with him, but with us, because how then can we be in his presence? Moses broke this question as well back in Exodus. So that being the case, let's go ahead and listen to some of their explanations about the Godhead and see if any of it makes sense or see if it's off. I'll let you guys be the judge. John one, in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him and without him was not anything made that was made. In him was life and the life was the light of man and the word was made flesh and dwelt among us. And we beheld his glory, the glory as for only the begotten of the father full of grace and truth. Okay, so right here we clearly see this is talking about Jesus, all right? The word was made flesh and it says the word was with God. So in the beginning, the word was with God. Here's the argument that people have though. This is where we get a lot of division. The word- I don't know if you caught what he's doing, where he's going. He goes into an argument and he leaves off a very important point. Let's go back to that and I wanna see if you guys can catch the error because he goes to start explaining something without fully completing something else. With God. So in the beginning the word was with God. Here's the argument that people have though. This is where we get a lot of division. How was the word with God? What- Well, what's his problem? Well, let's go to the passage. John 1-1. Let's see if I got this right. John 1-1, let's move this just a little bit. Okay, John 1-1. Okay, John 1-1. In the beginning was the word. The word was with God. And the word was God. Where did Marcus stop off at? Marcus just went to and the word was with God and then proceeded to try to explain God or Jesus. What Marcus, instead of trying to figure out some of this or figure something out without using all of it, how about use the entirety of that verse? Matter of fact, if you want to Marcus, you can actually keep reading and reading all of John 1. That being the case, he's trying to figure out what does it mean to be with God or in what form was Jesus with God? In what form was Jesus with God? Well, John literally says, and he was God. And he was God. Neal, and you said it perfectly. The passage literally explains it. In the beginning was the word. And the word was with God. But even more to the point, Marcus, the word was God. So what form was the word existed? All we know is he was God. He was with God and is God. But let's finish this into Marcus. What form was it? Was it a spirit? Was it, I asked the guy one time, you know, do you think there's a couple of like brains up there? Is there two brains? Is it like, like what form? Now, I really hope that Marcus didn't ask anybody that question. There's just two, some brains sitting up there. Maybe he's being facetious. I don't know. I really, truly hope he did not ask that question. Was the word, all right? Cause watch this, Revelation 13.8 says, and all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him whose names are not written in the book of life. The Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world. Now what he's getting ready to do, he's getting ready to explain Jesus, his existence, how Jesus came to be. And I want you all to make sure that you hear this, guys. Please hear how he is explaining. He's going to Revelation, how the Lamb was slain before the foundation of the earth. How is that possible? This is what Marcus is trying to explain, the whole being slain before the foundation of the earth before the earth was. How was that possible? First Peter 120, who verily was fordain before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these times for you, was manifest in these times for you, Hebrews 10, 5, 7. Wherefore, when he cometh into the world, talking about Jesus, he saith, sacrifice an offering thou which not, but a body has thou prepared for me. So we see in first Peter 120, that there was a manifestation, right? And then we see in Hebrews 10, 5 and 7, it says a body was prepared, all right? But we know that it says here that Jesus was slain before the foundations of the earth. So before the earth was even put together, Jesus was there. It is my belief that Jesus, all right? You can say it was like he was, because God is all knowing he was a thought in the heart of God, he was a... Okay, so I think I told you guys, when I was a little boy, and I just knew that there was a Santa Claus and I'm trying to figure out, you know, as your kid, you're letting your mind kind of move and kind of just wander and try to figure things out as a kid, the stuff that makes sense. For example, mom, explain this to me. Santa Claus has all these powers and he's been living forever. Now, mom, tell me if I'm correct. I've got a... Mommy, I've got a hypothesis. I didn't call it a hypothesis, but I'm thinking that Santa Claus is my little mind is trying to figure these things out. Where did he come from and who's his daddy? Well, I figured it out. I had it solved. I had it put together that Santa Claus, since Jesus is God's son, and I couldn't really wrap my hand around that. I heard that that Jesus is God's son, then Santa Claus must be Jesus's son. Has to be. When you have people who don't really understand stuff, trying to figure stuff out, this is kind of what you get, what Mark is saying. This is kind of the same thing, that the same sort of logic that you get. You know, he was just in God's heart because God just knows everything about everything. So before he said, let there be, he already was standing at the end. He already knew that, you know, humans were gonna mess it up. He knows everything about everything. So he has the answer for everything and Jesus was the answer for all our problems and issues. So yes, Jesus always existed. I think the argument comes about what form. Some people, you know, it says here that a body was prepared. It says here that the word was wrapped in flesh. Some will say, you know, it was the word, right? He spoke it, right? And so the form could be the word. That's why I say to me, it was in his heart, right? From the spirit of God. Remember, God is a spirit, all right? So let's see, okay. So we can figure this out. We can keep up. So Jesus, what really in existence, but who Jesus is, was in the heart of God, which is really the mind of God. He was the thought. He was in the heart of God, the mind of God, the thought of God. And so God has decided because he's gonna save mankind. He's gonna save mankind by having Jesus to die. And so in his mind, he is going to have Jesus, this thought, to slay him before the foundation. That's how he was slain before the world ever was. That's how it was done. And so out of this mind of God, out of the heart of God, the mind of God, this thought comes out. Why does the thought come out? The thought comes out of his mouth, out of his words. Are you with me? This is how Jesus becomes the word in the world of Marcus Rogers, at least according to this. Now, if you listen to Marcus, sometimes he kind of goes back and forth and goes all over the place, trying to figure some things out. And part of me wonders, part of me wonders if he would ever just slow down, if he would ever just humble himself. See, I am of the belief. That is, that is. If his heart is right. I don't know. I don't know. Again, I have my suspicions, but if his heart is right. And I've said this about a lot of the other guys that I've had issues with. If their heart is right, if they would just sit, remove the pride, and let someone teach it, because many of them are just still pretty young. Still pretty young, but if they would ever just allow some seasoned man, someone to teach them and walk through the world with them instead of them making it up as they go, looking for someone to say what they say, someone who has studied more. That's why you see some of these guys who are reading the writings of other people and reading them word for word and sharing them. This guy said that. That guy said that. That's why a lot of them were bothered and upset because Dr. Michael Brown deviated from them in some of their beliefs when it comes to demon possession and so forth. They were bothered by that. Why? Because they rely on those guys to tell them what to think as long as what they're telling them to think is in the course of what they're doing. But they don't seem to have the ability to study for themselves or to understand or better yet, to comprehend. And I'm not trying to be ugly, but unfortunately there are a lot of people who don't comprehend the scriptures who are out teaching. And I don't mean necessarily being wrong. Comprehension and being mistaken are two different things. People who can think can also come to the wrong conclusion, but at least you can see what they're thinking, how they got there. Comprehensions when you take passages and they make no sense. Matter of fact, you totally and completely misread that. And we see that often. Now I want to show you an example of this when it comes to, when it comes to Gino Jennings. One God. And when he came in a flesh, it was two natures. That's it. Both father and the son is two natures. That's it. All gone. I pushed that button. Well, you know, y'all know the rule. If I pushed the button once, just so it doesn't look like I made a mistake, gotta push it twice. But did you hear what he said? Now, I don't know if you guys caught that. I don't know if you guys caught that. So what I want to do is I'm going to back it up. Wasn't very much of a plate, about four or five seconds. So I'm gonna put it back on. I'm gonna rewind it and I want you guys to hear it. I want to see if my smart Christian chat, my live stream chat, if you pick this up. I want to see if you guys pick this up. One God. One God. And when it came in a flesh, it was two natures. That's it. Both father and the son is two natures. Now, did anybody catch that? Did anyone catch what he said? And I'm not even saying that what he said was right or wrong, but there was something that he said that makes me say, wait a second, wait a second. It's a bit hypocritical, sir. Why? Well, there are a lot of people that believe that Jesus has two natures. Now, depending upon what you mean by two natures, some will describe the two natures as being what we call the hypostatic union. But some will say that the hypostatic union is not necessarily two natures. He's gonna tell us what he means by two natures in a second. He's gonna tell us what he means by that in just a second. But here is the problem or here's the hypocrisy with what he said. Gino Jennings, just like Marcus Rodgers will say things like matter of fact, not like, but have literally said that the word trendy is not in the Bible. Okay, fine. Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus has two natures? It doesn't. The Bible does not say that Jesus has two natures. Now, whether he does or whether he doesn't, you've made a statement that's not in the Bible. Now, he believes the concept is there, well, fine. That means you can no longer impugn anyone else for using the word trendy. However, Gino doesn't understand what the word trendy, he doesn't understand the concept of the trendy, nor does he understand what he's really saying. Deep power, thank you for the super chat. I do appreciate that. Matter of fact, thank you for both of them. Thank you, sir. Now, let's go back to him and let's, he's gonna say some things that it's gonna make it, it should give, if you are a fan of Gino Jennings and there are some things that, a lot of things that you can be a fan of what Gino Jennings says. Gino Jennings, when you look at the way the culture is today, oh, he speaks out against that. I give him credit for that. Against homosexuality, the way that men behave and the way they dress, women and the lack of modesty and so forth, he does call these things out. Now, his doctrine leaves a whole, another whatever to be desired, a lot to be desired as a matter of fact. And him explaining how Jesus exists, the difference of two natures, this is a doozy, guys. It's two natures. That's it. One is terrestrial, one is celestial, one is human, one is divine. That's right. Okay, he says one is celestial, one is terrestrial. So Jesus's nature is of the earth, terrestrial and God's nature is celestial. Not of this, okay, maybe, maybe. Let's see where you're going. One is mortal, one is immortal. That's all it is. That's it. The father immortal, father celestial, father everlasting, father divine, father perpetual, father no beginning, father no ending, father always was, father always will be. That's right. Begotten, son born, son flesh, man. That's right. Are you getting what I'm telling you? Amen. Human and divine. And divine. So he kind of says it, I won't go into all the differences that he made, but literally everything that he said about the father is exactly everything that the Bible literally speaks about the son. Let me give you one example where he says that the father is eternal and so forth everlasting. Well, tell me Gino or anyone else that might want to see this or be prone to disagree. Here's the passage we have in Micah five. He says, but as for you, Bethlehem, Epithat, too little to be among the clans of Judah. From you, one will go forth from me to be ruler in Israel. His goings forth are from long ago, from days of eternity. And the Hebrew word there is olam, which is from eternity everlasting. So guess what, Gino? The same nature that you're describing to God is also ascribed to Jesus or the same attribute is ascribed to God as well as Jesus. Remember when we go through the scriptures and we start looking at how God is described, we're gonna find out that Jesus is used, the same descriptions are used of him. God is a great judge, so is Jesus. God is the husband. I mean, I'm sorry, the bridegroom. We see the same thing said of Jesus. God is the savior. Jesus is the savior. God is the first and the last. Jesus is the first and the last. God is the Alpha and Omega. Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega. The Lord is God. Jesus is the Lord. At the name of Jesus, I mean, at the name of God, every knee will bow, and once told that at the name of God, also every tongue will confess. And then Paul tells us that the same applies to Jesus. At the name of Jesus, every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess. So it seems to be that the very nature that Jesus has is the same very nature that God has. So if you're gonna try to break it down into two natures in that regard, I think that description of him having two natures, that those two natures are different, one and the same. Remember, he's God. So he has the right to divorce his godly progative if he so chooses to do so in this earthly ministry. Are you with me? Now, Jesus, and we're gonna look at some passages also to make this clear. Jesus is God. He's always been, always will be. There is nothing about him, his essence, that change. Remember, all of God, all of his goodness, all of his godliness, all of God, all of the character of God, all of it dwells in Jesus in bodily form. So that just simply fails. That description is not a good description. It's a bad description as a matter of fact. Now, just because you get past the yelling, just because you have the yelling, doesn't make it so. Does not make it so. And what happens is, and this is what I wish that many of the people that follow Geno Jennings would actually simply just, go ahead and try to see if what he's saying is true, rather than taking what he says as true. It's a big difference. It's a big difference in when someone says this is so versus actually going and see if it's so. Kind of like when Paul goes to Berea, that's exactly what they did. Let's make sure, hey, Paul, I like you, but in the words of the old prophet, Ronald Wagan, trust, but verify. I like you, Paul, but let's just verify. Geno, I like you, but let me just verify. If you're wrong, hey, that doesn't mean anything, just that you're wrong about that. Now, if you're constantly wrong, if you're constantly wrong, then we got an issue. And remember, this issue, the nature of who he is, is important. The Lord is God according to Moses in Deuteronomy 4, 35 and through 39. The Lord is God and the Lord is there at the burning bush along with the angel of the Lord, along with God, along with I am. And who is Jesus? The Lord, he is God, he is the I am. I know we get bent out of shape and get hung up on the term son, son of God, but do we think that he really is the son of God? Because if we actually apply the same standard, because what do we do? We hear English words and we try to apply our own English words to it. Have you all ever been in a class, fourth grade, fifth grade, sixth grade, seventh grade? What have you? Been in a class and you were given definitions and you hear a word and you think because this word is in it that it must mean something dealing with a word or a sound. So I hear the word son of God. Oh, he's the son of God, he's God's son. But we don't apply the exact same standard when we deal with son of man, do we? If he is from God, well, obviously God didn't literally have a son, a son that is, he was born, he went to preschool, you know, this didn't happen, I didn't know. He was called the son of God before. So we need to get an understanding of what does it mean, the term son of God and the term as well as son of man. Both of these terms refer to deity, which is why even though the Jews might be hateful, which is why they understood the term meant, which is why the Jews said, you call yourself God and Jesus did not bat an eye and say, wait a second, nope, nope, that's not what I said. You said Jesus is the I am, we agree, Gino agrees, Jesus the Lord, God, we agree. Well, wait a second, but Gino, did I just, did I miss hear what Gino said? I get that Gino will say that, but Gino also says they have two natures. He also says they have two natures and then you're gonna hear what Gino says. See, Gino also believed, at least according to some of his videos, Gino also says that Jesus was made. Therein lies the issue. So my brother, you're gonna have to vet his words and test them, because again, how sad would it be to follow a person who you think is following after God and what they're teaching is incorrect? So Jesus is God, he's everlasting, he's eternal. Don't let the 33 and a half years that he was here get you hung up. He came for a reason to pay a price, the price that no man could pay only God could pay and so God took on flesh and did so. Again, when God comes down in the midst of the bush, in the midst of the bush, well, listen, matter of fact, keep that same energy when we get to maid, keep that same energy when we get to maid because we're gonna find out that Gino might wanna, and I know Gino has made statements that he didn't like to read the Greek. The Greek is not important and so forth. Matter of fact, he even said that Hebrew, Greek and Latin won't do you good here in that church. Well, Gino or Terence, you might want to have some Hebrew, Greek and Latin. We're gonna look at it in just a second but at the burning bush, we see the Lord banjo the Lord and God. God is also the fullness of God is in heaven as well as we see God there wrapped in fire and his spirit all over the earth at the same time. This is what we mean by when we say the Trinity, the exact same thing. Now, you need to ask yourself guys, and again, we're not dealing with the term Trinity but you're gonna find this term Trinity fall more and more out of favor. What else is gonna fall out of favor? Every other sound biblical teaching. Sound teaching is not going to increase. That part we do know. So, and I don't think that we can find anyone with any sort of decent intelligence that will say, yeah, sound doctrine is going to increase especially when Paul says the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine. Why is that important? Well, because which doctrine is now growing and which one is falling out of favor? Well, this belief in the Trinity is falling more and more out of favor and this belief that there is no Trinity is growing. So that's the good doctrine that's growing. We don't even have people believing that Jesus died on the cross growing in the church. That's falling away. Every other doctrine that we think of is going by the wayside is falling and we've been warned about that. But now all of a sudden the right doctrine as opposed as it relates to Jesus' identity, that's growing. Okay, well, listen, it would be the only one that's going against the rest of the tide. So that being stated, I wanna go back to, Marcus explaining this mystery. God is a spirit, okay? And then we don't know exactly what form that takes. Anybody who tells you they know what God, and his fullness looks like, they would be lying, okay? Except we can point to when he actually was incarnated, the form now. I know he's still speaking of, remember he had this little, his analogy, the spirit of God. And then God took his spirit and put it in Jesus, which means that prior to that, how did Jesus exist? Apparently he did not. Apparently Jesus did not exist, that he never existed prior to that. And that's the question, because for those who might want to disagree, I would love to ask this question. My question to you guys, and there are a few of you guys in the chats, I would ask this question, Mr. Terrence, or anyone else who papers Gino or Marcus, explain to me in what form or did Jesus ever exist? No more friends. See, this is where you're gonna have to grow up and learn. This is where you're gonna have to grow up and learn. And listen, I was looking for someone else's comment, but I see yours, so let's see what you just said. Corey, relying on Greek, is just another form. It's just another form, let me read over here. Just another form of you leaning on your own understanding. It says the Holy Spirit will give understanding, but nowhere does it say by a language. Can I ask you a question? What's it's sub, sub, I don't, super bad, I don't know what, super bad, whatever, whatever, I don't know, I don't know how to say your name. Let me ask you a question, sir. Who gave us the Bible in Hebrew and Greek? Please tell us who gave us the Bible, super bad. Who gave us the Bible in Hebrew and Greek? Now, if I'm relying on it in Hebrew or Greek, if that's me leaning to my own understanding, when you read it in English, is that you relying on it in your own understanding? By the way, I do read it in English. I literally read, see, this is how silly, and I'm sorry to get to pick on you, but I hope you feel bad about what you said. Because you're doing the exact same thing you just haven't figured out how to read Greek or Hebrew. And so you get bothered, upset, because someone disagrees with you by using Hebrew or Greek. That is shameful, that's sorry, that is bad, that's sophomoric, that is childish. I'm sorry. The Bible was given to us, not in English. See, you have this self-centered Western way of looking at things that everything revolves around English or the way you see things. Sir, that's the way, do not be children in your thinking, but be mature. The Bible was given to us in Hebrew and Greek. Now, English is perfectly fine, perfectly fine. But when we have someone that will take a passage and mistakenly twist, or sometimes intentionally twist the scriptures, then we have to go back to the words, don't we? We have to go back to the word, don't we? Let's see what else you just said. You said, the Holy Spirit did, but does that make understanding at a lower rate? That's not what I said. All I'm doing is, see, tell us what your real problem is. Tell us what your, the real problem is, you don't like sound doctrine. And that's the problem with a lot of people, because all of these folks that want to come out against what sound, again, the Bible says, the time will come when you will not endure sound doctrine. And so me using the Greek, it's there. So am I to ignore it? Because what if I don't read in English? What if I am from Greece and I literally read Greek? Oh, what if I actually read, what if Hebrew was my native language and I actually read it in Hebrew? Would that be okay? And then when I see what you don't see, you're going to get upset with me. I'm not leaning to my own understanding. I'm literally leaning on the words that he gave us. You know, the very words that he says will not return to him boy. Those words that he died for, that the spirit God breathed gave us these words. You've got to decide, young brother. I'm going to assume you're younger. I don't know, I shouldn't say that because there's a lot of older people who just say foolish things too, but you have to decide. Are you going to trust his word more than your own English or Western understanding? That's what you're going to have to do. Now, that being stated, what you need to do if I come up with something, don't do the other thing that you did, impugn what I'm saying without actually impugning it. You just gave your opinion, an emotional opinion. You never said why I was wrong based on any scriptures. I don't know if you noticed that or not, but here that's what I want you to do. If you're going to prove me wrong, listen, you have the floor to do so, but at least use scriptures. Relying on Greek, a person can still misunderstand because understanding does not come from how you see it. You're still leaning on, what are you leaning on? I'm not relying on it, but see, you're not going to tell me where I'm wrong, so I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do. I'm just going to try to ignore you. It's going to be hard. It's going to be hard because I've got this foolish detector that goes off and when I see foolish, it just catches my eye. It just catches my eye and what you said, I'm sorry, I don't know how old you are, but however old you are, what you said is not fitting of someone your age. Yeah, that being said, let's go back to what Marcus is saying. If God decided to just show himself to the world and his full glory and power, we would not be able to handle it. God is too big. He's too great. He sits outside of time and space. Some people believe the spirit is like, I don't know, a mist or is it a presence? Like what actual form that God is in? The Bible says great is the mystery of Godliness. So I don't know exactly what form God is a spirit. I just know that God is a spirit. Now, he said something, I want y'all to pay attention to something. He said, great is the mystery of God, or did he say Godliness? You know what, let me play that back. I want to make sure if he, because Marcus has quoted some things wrong before it, like he'll say one thing that you hear, a lot of people getting out of misquoting it, will they'll say something like test the spirit by the spirit where the Bible doesn't say test the spirit by the spirit, it just says test the spirit to see if it is of God. They say test the spirit by the spirit. Because Marcus is the one that believes that I know you, you're saved. My Holy Spirit in me will tell me that you have the, that you're saved. Okay, okay, real, real silly. But let's go back. I want to see if you said that or not. Let me see. God is a, what form God, God is a spirit. I just know that God is, all right. So I don't know exactly what form is a presence. You know, like, what, what actual form is that God is in? I'm just great is the mystery of godliness. All right. So I don't know exactly. So, but now, even still, even still, and I'll come back to you, Terence Harvey, but he says, great is the form of godliness. But now, is that talking about, is that talking about what we're talking about? Look, let's go back to it. And first time in 316, he says, by common confession, great is the mystery of godliness. Then they go to this passage. He who was revealed in the flesh was vindicated in the spirit, seen by angels proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, in the world, taken up in glory. It's not dealing with his identity, but he was revealed in flesh. He was, he was shown to us in flesh, meaning, meaning before he was in flesh, revealed us in flesh. He was also, he also existed outside of his flesh prior to his incarnation. Are you with me? You said, Jesus found himself in the form of God, meaning the body that God, that the spirit would end the same body, the spirit was into this day. No, sir. Matter of fact, let's just go to that passage. Why not? Screen for a second. Let's go to the Philippians too. Have this attitude in yourselves, which was also in Christ Jesus, who although he existed in the form of God, did not regard it equally with God, a thing to be grasped. And this is the point you need to focus on. Did not regard his equality, this word, Esau, this word equality, a thing to be grasped. Now, you can focus on the word form. I believe that he's referring to the fact that he is God. You can't be in the form of God unless you are God, but you might take it a different way. But what you cannot get past, what you cannot deal with is the fact that he said that, that he was equal, that he regarded himself being equal with God as a thing to be grasped. That part, and so what happens oftentimes is we look at things and we forget that there's more to the word, I mean, more to the passage than just the words that we were looking for. We were looking for certain words, we found certain words, and those certain words made our point without looking at the entire text. But what he says though, he did not regard himself, regard equality, the equality that he had with God, a thing to be grasped. Do you think that Jesus is equal to God? If you say no, that Jesus is not equal to God, then what was Paul talking about? Then Paul, you're wrong. Jesus did not consider equality with God a thing because he was not equal with God. He didn't think that he was equal with God. No, he did consider himself to be equal with God and didn't think that that was a bad thing, but what did he do? Instead, he emptied himself. This Greek word issue here is the word echinocin, which is to empty himself up, or we call this kinosus, to empty himself up. What exactly did he empty himself up? Taking on the form of a bond servant being made in the likeness of men found in the appearance as a man, so he comes down in a far lower form, even made lower than the angels, he humbled himself in becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on the cross. So now, according to that passage, Jesus actually believed that he was equal with God. How could that be if he was made? How could that be? Well, oh, I know what it is. You're focusing so much on the body that was prepared. Okay. You're focusing on the body that was prepared, but the body isn't the, now for us in terms of what he did on the cross, absolutely, amen. But Jesus has always existed. Always existed. There never was a time that was that he wasn't. He's always existed. The spirit of God, the Holy Spirit always existed. God, the Father always existed. Always. Now, if you wanna know what the concept of the Trinity is, Mr. Terrence, Mr. Geno, Mr. Marcus, it's that. The concept of the Trinity is that Jesus has always existed, that God, the Father has always existed, that the Holy Spirit has always existed. That's the Trinity. Now, you can call it the Godhead, but the word the Godhead is that Taitos, which is the fullness of God. And so, we didn't say as two gods, pay attention, sir. Listen, I need you to pay attention. On this channel, you got to pay attention. You gotta use scriptures. No one said, where did it come out as someone bleeding in two gods? Where? Who said that? See, that's the reason why a lot of the people, I'm not being ugly, but a lot of the people that sit and watch his channel or listen to him, do just decide to divorce themselves of thinking. Matter of fact, you hear what was never said. Because again, no one ever said that there are two gods, that there are three gods. Matter of fact, or like Geno has said, three personalities, who's ever said three personalities? He gets hung up on the term persons. I get that, I get that, Geno. Listen, Geno is never going to be taken as a scholar. That's fine. But he gets hung up on the term persons as though that's a personhood is not a big deal. Entities are considered, matter of fact, businesses are considered persons. States have personhood. Are you with me? But even more so as a living, breathing person, we have personhood. And so you get caught up on the terms because you haven't fully mastered. And this is the problem. I think one of the biggest issues why people have a problem with us looking at the Hebrew and the Greek is because they have not matched the English. Therein lies another problem. If you aren't fully caught up on what these English terms mean and the nuances and the fluidity of these words, well then when we start bringing out and fleshing out in the original language, therein lies a problem. And so you get hung up on these terms. Well, I don't want to use a term, I don't want to use a term trendy, but I'll use a term Godhead. Well, the term Godhead didn't previously exist until the translators came up with that term in the King James version, which is why the other translations don't use the term Godhead because the term Godhead does not fully convey what it means. The term Godhead or the three words that are used there can note to us God himself, the fullness of God, his nature, who he is. So whoever God is, which goes against what Gino says, whoever God is, whatever God's nature is, that's the exact same nature that Jesus has. Now, how could it be that he took on flesh? Cause he's God. That's the point. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, that's the point. He can take on flesh and still be God. Why? Cause he's God. You can't do it. And because you can do it, I can't do it. We can't understand it. Can I fathom how that can be? Oh, but here's all we need to understand. He's God, you're not. He can, you can't. That's all it is. That's what it means to be you and to be me. He's God. He ain't like us. Rule number one, understand this. There's one God. Rule number two, you ain't him. Rule number three, in case you forget rule number two, have someone else explain to you, rule number one. That's how that goes. Now, I want to go over some things because he makes a statement. Gina makes a statement about being made. And I think he's a bit off. I think he's a bit off in this statement and so, but I want to let him, I want to let him say it. And then you all tell me if you agree or disagree. Concerning his son. Concerning his son. Jesus Christ our Lord. Jesus Christ our Lord. Which was made. Our Lord. They ain't talking about the spirit. No way. That ain't, the spirit ain't never was made. No. All right. All right. Don't let the yelling get to you guys, but, but he says concerning him who was made. Okay. So now we're going to go and look at this passage and see what he said. But let's, let's let him go ahead and explain a little bit more. Spirit don't have no makeup. That's right. The spirit is the makeup. That's right. The son of God was made. Was made. Which was made of the seed of pain. Now, before, before we continue, let's go, let's just read the passage that he's bringing up. This is Romans one, three. I'll, I'll answer that question in second Cassie. That's a good question. That's a good question. And that's really what we ought to do. Hey, well, okay. I'm trying to see your point. I don't, maybe I don't fully see your point. And so let me ask you a question and see because maybe it, maybe I am wrong or maybe the other person's wrong. But let's, let's just rather than, rather than immediately going to defend the person rather than the text. I would much rather be guilty of defending the text than defending anybody on this planet. Now, what he says concerning his son who was, oh, I'm sorry. You know what? Let me do this. Let me do this. Let's go back over here. Let's take this passage. Well, what I want to do is I want to pull up the King James version as well. I want to have also the King James version so we can look at all three of them side by side. So here we have chapter three, I mean chapter one verse three. Let's read the King James version. Concerning his son, Jesus Christ our Lord which was made of the seat of David. Therein lies the problem. Therein lies the problem. Now, the NASB will say concerning his son who was born of a descendant. Now, so the issue is, is the word born or is the word made? And even still, what does the word that's there mean? Super bad, pay attention because this is why we look to the Greek because maybe when we have some confusion that the English version brings to the table, not intentionally, why do they use this word here? Why do they use that word? Why do they use that word? Or if I'm just looking at one translation, even still, what does this word fully mean? So now let's go back to it. The word that's used is the word ganamenu, which is to be born of or to be made up or to become or to exist. So now Jesus was not born himself. Now, obviously in his incarnation, the mechanism whereby God chose to bring him through was in his earthly birth. Not to be told, could he have done it a different way? Don't know, possibly he's God. But what he's trying to explain here is him coming through the legal lineage through the seat of David, through Judah, just like the Bible prophesied. And so he who was born of a descendant of David, according to the flesh, who was declared to be the Son of God with power by the resurrection. In other words, this power that's in him is what's declaring him the fact that he is verifying the very fact that he is. He wasn't made anything. He is who he is. He came on, remember we just read in Philippians where he emptied himself. So if Jesus empties himself, it's not someone doing it other than if we want to say God did so, but if we say God brought Jesus here, then Jesus can say, then the same can be said of Jesus as well. Because he is the Father. Are you with me? I'm sorry, I didn't say he is the Father because he is God. And that's the point. So if it says God did or God said, the same can be said of Jesus. Matter of fact, we often see God, the Father and God the Son saying and doing the exact same thing. So let's go back to Gino. Made of the seed of David according to what? According to the flesh. No, he's the seed of David according to the Spirit. According to the flesh. He was of the seed of David according to the Spirit. Which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh. Ah, what else? And declared to be the Son of God. Declared to be the Son of God. With power. With what? With power. According to the Spirit of holiness. Go ahead, man. Go ahead. According to what? According to the Spirit of holiness. You see him come on back. Go ahead, man. Ah, power. Go ahead. Give it unto me. And heaven and earth. Who gave it to him, Pastor Jennings? He took it himself. He took it. He said, thou hast taken unto thee. That's right. Thine great power and has reigned. That's right. He said, high in the well, he's gonna take it. Then he says, give it to him. He said, all things the Father has are mine. So he wants to make this point. The point that he's trying to make it, we see in Matthew, let's go to Matthew 28, 18. And I'm sorry, 19. He says, go therefore and make disciples of all, I'm sorry, 18. And Jesus came up and spoke saying, all authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth. When you make the point that the authority that Jesus has been given on heaven and on earth, well, yeah, someone gave him that power. Okay. Here's a question though. If Jesus has all power and all authority, what then does God the Father have? That would be a question. I would love to hear someone answer this question. If they're separate, if they're distinct, if they're not equal, because we believe they're equal, but it seems that in tracking with Gino, the Father has given, Jesus has all power because it was given to him. And he's saying that because he had to get it from somebody, somebody had to give it to him. In other words, God. Okay, we're fine. What power does God have then? What power does God have? God the Father. Can anyone tell me what power does God have? If Jesus has all power and all authority on heaven, in heaven and on earth, where's God at? He's in heaven. So if Jesus has all power in heaven and all of all authority in heaven, then what does God have? God the Father have. Interesting question. Let's write Gino and ask him. Let's write Gino now. Let's write Marcus. Now, neither gonna respond. And I've sent letters. I've tried to, fine, but neither gonna respond. And I understand, you've got more to lose and more to gain because this is one of the things that you've been known for and you have not been doing it correctly. Because I think there's a level of pride. I think that's what it really is. Now, someone said, well, Cory, you're showing your pride. Okay, fine. At least I'm showing my work with a pride. At least I'm actually going to the description. I'm just asking a question again. Who has all authority? Who has all power? Not just on earth, but also in heaven. God does. Amen. That's the whole point of Matthew 28, 18. God does. Who's God? Jesus. What about God? He's God. What about the Holy Spirit? He's God. Jesus says, no one takes my life. I lay my life down and I have the authority to take it back up. But what happens is we think about this earthly ministry that he's in where he has voluntarily, voluntarily humbled himself, subjected and subjugated himself. And so he divorced himself of some of his godly progress. Oh, by the way, he can take them back up if he wanted to, but he came for a mission. He came for a mission. And so when it says that I don't know only the Father knows, well, that's why. Because he says, why did Jesus say I can do nothing of myself? And he used the term only, what was the Father who has sent me to? Because remember, he has emptied himself. He has subjugated himself. Why? To do something. Jesus has divorced himself temporarily of some of his godly progress. What? And in total, we just don't know because we're not told everything. We do have some glimpse. We do have, in fact, let's just go through the progression. Let's go through the progression. Jesus makes a statement in Mark 12, 29. He says, the foremost is this, here, oh Israel, the Lord, our God, I'm sorry, the Lord, our God is one Lord. Now, I don't think we're catching this. I don't think a lot of folks are catching this. The Lord, our God is one Lord. Well, how many Lords are there? Well, he just said one Lord. Well, I thought that Jesus is also the Lord. Sure he is, but so is God. And Jesus reiterates that. And they're not catching this. Even if we go and look by, matter of fact, let me look at something real quick. If we go and look at the term, let's see, make sure I just want to make sure of something. Okay. The Lord, our God, he's one, is one Lord. That's Jesus. And by the way, that you must confess that Jesus is the Lord, which means you must also necessarily agree what that means. I went, okay, I agree that Jesus, maybe you misunderstand me. Jesus is fully God. He was fully God. Now, when Jesus makes the statement though, I don't know only the father knows, was he playing coy? Was he lying? Was it? Well, no, I think at the time Jesus was telling the truth, he didn't know. Now, could he have known? Could he have found? Yes. Jesus has the authority to pick up what he wants to pick up, but he voluntarily laid that aside for the time being. Why? Because with all that, I don't know. We don't know. But does that come with a lot more glory? Because he does pray the prayer, Lord, give me back the glory that I had with you in the beginning. Well, remember, God says that he will share his glory with no one. Well, then it comes Jesus saying, give me back the glory. The very thing that you said you will never share, give it back to me that you and I had together in the beginning. You know, the beginning when Marcus Rogers thought that Jesus was a thought in the heart of guy that came out as words. Yeah, that, that beginning that Jesus said, give me back the glory. Yeah, the same Jesus who's taken on worship that God said, you should worship nobody else. Only God has the authority to forgive sin. And here we got Jesus doing the same thing so that you can know that the Son of Man has both the authority to heal and forgive sins. I said, you take up your cross and walk. Now, and may be tears, maybe it's just that a lot of guys don't understand what is meant by the Trinity. Maybe that's what it is. Because a lot of folks, wait a second, it doesn't make sense to me. So let me just go ahead and knee head jerk response and just disallow that. Look what he says. He says, hero, Israel, the Lord our God is one. Let's go to Deuteronomy, where they come from. This is the Shema and let's read it over here. Hero, Israel, the Lord, our God is one. And here it is, where we get the term the Shema. This, here it is. The first word is the Shema in the Hebrew. The, what you call something like the books in Hebrew, they'll be called that book based on the first word of that book. Well, the first word of verse four is the Shema. Hero, Israel, and then here's the word for Israel. Hero, Israel, and here's the word, the, if they don't want to pronounce the word for Lord or God, Yehovah, or however you want to pronounce it, there is no real way to know if we're pronouncing the correct way. But he says, hero, Israel, the Lord, our God. And here's what I want to focus on right here. This word for God, the Hebrew word for, which is guys, look at the bottom left hand corner. Or I'm sorry, look just underneath my face. Look underneath my face. And if you notice this, this is a noun. It's a common masculine plural. So even as he's saying the Lord, our God, he's using the plural of our God. And he's saying that he is one. The Lord, our God. Now I think this is why, and by the way, when we get back to the Bible study, even though we haven't earned it yet in the Bible study, we'll get to the point where we'll see, okay, well maybe that plurality in the term Elohim or Ahunu is also what he meant and that he's trying to go somewhere. But we'll save that for another day. So anyway, he's making this point. Now I don't know if the Jews caught that. Matter of fact, doubtful that the Jews did catch that. But then we go to John one. Let's go back to John one. We see where he, matter of fact, don't go in, we got time. We got time. Let me do this in me 17 and a half second. I'm gonna 17 and a half minutes so we can knock this out. In the beginning was the word the word. What God and the word was God. And we know that the predicate nominative in this case is the word Theos, the substance of the nominative. The subject of this is word. And the predicate nominative in this case, God describes what the subject is. So in this case, God describes what the word is, which is why it says the word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through him. Apart from him, nothing came into being and that has come into being. In him was life and the life was the light of man. The light shines in the darkness and the darkness did not comprehend it. Maybe that's what we're talking about also. We get to that point in Genesis one, where did this light come from? There came a man sent from God whose name was John. He came as a witness to testify about the light so that they'll all might believe through him. He was not the light, but he came to testify about the light. Now let's drop down to verse 14. And the word became flesh and dwelt among us and we saw his glory. We're going somewhere now. We saw his glory, glory as of the only begotten. This word here, monoganus, in this case, what does that word? Does anyone know what the word monoganus means? Or you may have heard another term monoganase. Does anyone know what that term means? While you're looking up, while you're looking up, I want you to, or are you thinking about it? Hear what I'm saying. He says, we saw his glory, the glory of who? The glory of the only begotten, the only begotten. What does that term? I know we say it in English, but what does only begotten mean? The unique one. Okay, I see Cam says the unique one. John A1. We're gonna find a little bit more detail because you guys are correct. You guys are correct. No, I did not. No, I did not. Castro on that. No, I did not. You guys are going to see a little bit more with that. You guys are gonna see a little bit more with that. John 15 says, testified about him and cried out saying, this was he of whom I said, he who comes after me has a higher rank than I for he existed before me. What do you mean he existed before you? What do you mean he existed before you? Well, since I was, technically I was born first, but he's always been. Okay, now I wanna deal with this issue before we move forward. I wanna deal with this issue of begotten because he goes on to say in verse 18, he says, no one has seen God at any time. The only begotten who is in the bosom of the father has explained this. Wait a second, hold it, wait a second. I got a problem, got an issue here. I'm confused. Guys, I'm confused. I'm confused about something. There's something in verse 18 that is confusing. Let's go back to it and maybe we'll see a little bit more about this only begotten. No one has seen God at any time. Nobody has seen God. The only begotten who is in the bosom of the father. Now, let's read this correctly. The only begotten God. Now, did anybody pick, has anyone picked this up? I literally have this on the screen for someone to pick this up because sometimes we just race through this, especially this passage. No, no, no, no. You're close though, not the bosom of the father. Not the bosom of the father. There's a, before we get to the bosom of the father, go back a few words and see if you catch this. See if you catch this guys. Let me take it off the screen for one second. I need you guys to catch this. This is literally in your Bibles too. I don't have a unique Bible. This is only, this is not just here but this is in your Bible as well. Look what it says. Yeah. The only begotten God. Wait, wait, wait a minute. Wait, wait, hold up. Wait, hold up. Wait a minute. Let me put some thinking in this. I should just have thinking in it. Then that would have rhymed. That would have been me having what are they called bars? Hold up, wait a minute. Let me put some thinking in it. It says, it says, it says guys, it says no one has seen who, God. That's the word they ask what they are at any time. The only begotten God, wait a second. Hold up, I'm confused. The only begotten God. Only begotten God. Wait a second. Now I'm really, wait a second. Hold up. Let's, somebody might have a problem with me reading in the Greek, but let me go ahead and read in, let me go ahead and read in the Greek. My name is Theos. How, yeah, the, yeah, that, that, that, and that's, yeah, the only begotten God, okay. So this only begotten, he's the only one. When we use this term, the only one, even as refers to the son, the only one, the God is, is pulling the two together. The same one, the same God, the same, the same one. What did he have to do, guys? He literally, because no one else could do it, no one else could do it. The only person that could save us from the wrath of God is God. So what must he do? Let me go back to it. And I feel bad sometimes, guys, by using this passage more than I really should. I really do, but doggone it, I'm gonna use it. I'm gonna use it because, heck, if it's there for us to use, might as well use it. So when we go back to passage that I spoke about, I didn't really go through it, but in Leviticus 17, here it is on the screen for the life of the flesh is in the blood. God has decided that I want blood. I want blood to pay me back. I'm God, I get to determine how I'm going to be satisfied. I get to determine what's gonna make me feel whole. And because I may just God, and I got some wrath, but I'm a just God. I mean what I say, and what I say it is, if my wrath is satisfied, if you pay the debt, if you pay the debt, I won't ask you for anything else. As long as you trust that I accept the debt that was paid. Okay, God, you got a deal. So here's the deal. Pay the right, pay blood, blood is required. Problem is, even if you pay with your blood, it still doesn't satisfy the debt. You'll still be in hell without full payment. It's like you paid 37 cents on a $5 billion debt. You don't have enough to pay it. So not only have to pay blood, you have to pay with the right blood. So how are we gonna do this? Well, this is where he says, again, if you pay the blood, I receive it. My wrath is satisfied, the debt is paid. And here's what he says. Here's what he says, guys. He says, for the life of the flesh in the blood, which is why God is requiring blood as a payment. He says, and I have given it on the altar to make atonement for your souls. But we've covered this before. Matter of fact, some of you guys can actually quote this before I even say it. But what does he say? What does he say? He says, I'll answer your question in a second. Uh-oh, uh-oh. I didn't mean to do, almost canceled the wrong person. I was marking the question. But he says in the Hebrew, wani, ani, natatin. It's natatin, guys, is I have given. It's the I, it's the have given also. It's the tense of the verb is also in there and the I, the pronoun. You can do that with Hebrew or Greek. In this case, Hebrew, I have given. And it's in the past tense, I have given. But notice what's in front of it, the word ani. ani is the Hebrew word for I. So it's saying, I, I have given. Why would you say it like that? Because this is where God is saying, I myself have given. And we take this as though he is supplying the blood. It's him that's giving the blood, not asking any, God is not asking anyone else to give the blood because he couldn't. No one else can give the blood, which is why Jesus is on the cross. This should make sense, guys. This is the, if there's ever a week in the history of your lives to make this make sense. If there's ever time for this, what I'm saying to make sense, it's right now. Jesus is on the cross and he's gonna yell out something before it happens. He says it is finished. Now he makes a statement as finished before it actually is finished, as far as we can tell, we can tell. But he used the perfect tense. He says it is finished. In the Greek it is, it has been finished. It's the perfect tense. The perfect tense in Greek, which we don't have in English, is a perfect tense that described a completed action in the past. When was this finished in Jesus? You're confusing me. Well, it was finished when he decided to come and do this, to come and to bear our sins. He's literally hearkening back to this point and actually even further, but for us to see in scriptures, Leviticus 17, 11. I myself am going to give the blood. So the plan that I've enacted, it is finished. Jesus makes a statement. And we make the statement as finished. That means the debt is paid. The debt is paid. Now, Jesus is in a garden. Father, I've done what I was sent to do. Now glorify me with the glory that I had back in the beginning. What's going to happen? It's not like he's really begging the Father to do so. He's not begging. All he's doing, guys, is he's making this statement now. How do we know he wants us to know what he's saying? Because none of us, nor were any of the apostles there to hear Jesus make this prayer. Remember, they're asleep. When Jesus makes the statement, Father, if it be your will, let this cup pass. Well, no, he's making a point. He's making a point for the benefit of the audience, even though the audience is not around. There are no hears, but the Spirit that lets us know through John, what he said. He's on the cross. It says, la, ma, la, ma, sabatini, which is my God. I mean, in LA, la, ma, sabatini, which is my God, my God. Why have you forsaken me? Well, he's not asking a question. He's stating a fact in the form of a question. The reason why I'm being forsaken is because I need to be, because nobody else can nor will. If they did, it wouldn't be satisfactory. So I'm shedding the blood, which is why when we get to Hebrews, and these Jews get this, he says, sacrifice and offerings, that stuff was not sufficient. It was never sufficient, which is why you guys had to do it year after year after year. But a body you have prepared for me. Marcus Rogers, are you listening? A body you have prepared for me. Why? To do just what I said I was going to do in Leviticus 1711. Who can do that only God? That's why it is important for us to know that Jesus is God, that he's always existed as God, will always exist as God. He is God. Cory, why, how can God be a son? Again, oftentimes in scriptures, we will hear what is called anthropomorphic terminology being used. Anthropomorphic terminology is terminology that mankind can relate to. For example, when he says that he was before the face of God, God didn't have a face, he didn't have a face. But it's words that conjure up the image of being before. Just like we'll say under the shadow of his wings, he's not a bird, he doesn't have a wing, okay? Or we say before the face of the mountain. The mountain doesn't have a face, it just means alpany, which is before in front of. And so we have terminology like that. And so when we say son of God, even the Jews at that time understand that when we say son of God, that is literally invoking God, that is literally saying God, which is why the Jews were upset and wanted to kill him. And Jesus never did correct him. So to say son of God is a term. It can, for us, we'll take it as something being idiomatically spoken, that it doesn't necessarily mean literally the birth son of God on Jesus birth certificate, it says God. He's got little Jesus feet in each place with his birth certificate. No, that's not how it works. He's not the son like we think of and we get hung up on that. He's just trying to explain that he is of the exact essence. He is of the exact essence of God as a matter of fact, which is why he says in Hebrew one, he says God after he spoke long ago to the father in the prophets in many portions, in many ways in these last days has spoken to us in his son, whom he appointed, air of all things. Look what he says. He says he is the radiance of his glory. What about his glory? He is the radiance of his glory. He is the fullness, the radiance of his glory and the exact representation. The exact representation of, remember we were told that he has two natures? No, he's the exact representation of God's nature and upholds all things by the words of his power, by the words of his power. And so the point is that we've got to get, even though the English might trip us up a little bit because we're trying to explain a God like this, it's hard. I don't care what language you speak. Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, Swahili, Pig Latin, doesn't matter what language you speak, you can't fully explain God in his existence. You just cannot. We do the best that we can with what we got. And with what we got will lead us to the fact that one, Jesus is God. Remember, you better accept that. John says in Rome, in John 8, 24, that unless you confess or believe that he is, I am, echo in me, you will die in your sins. Paul says that unless you confess that Jesus is the Lord, the very same the Lord who is God, unless you confess that, the Bible says you will not be saved. You must confess that he's the Lord knowing that the Lord is God. Are you with me? So the Godhead, to wrap this thing up, when we talk about what the Godhead is, the Godhead is simply the fullness of God, all of God, all of his nature, all of everything about him, that is the Godhead. And so if you want to use that term but deny the Trinity or deny the, or deny any, let me just deny anything of that sort, you cannot be saved, fact. So guys, I hope it's been beneficial, I hope it's been a blessing to you. I hope now, again, go back and do your own research and look and see, and then tell me what you think. But in the meantime, guys, be blessed by this wonderful Savior that we have. Amen.