 Well a very good morning to you. Thank you so much for sticking with us. This is why in the morning welcome back And of course, this is why 2 5 4 TV the number one youth station We are coming to you live from their broadcasting house here in Nairobi, Kenya auto streaming live through our website And that's a www.kbc.co.ke for slash why to fight for now? My name is Ram Aguco. It's a pleasure being with you on this fun Monday morning Let's talk about youth and politics today. And of course remember even as we discussed matters concerning youth and politics We value your feedback. We welcome you to join in on this conversation that we are about to have today and Joining me in studio. I am with aspirants find buying for different positions different counties to my far right I am with Beatrice Kairu. She is vying for the gubernatorial seats As the deputy governor for Kiambu County Carousel and Beatrice You're feeling well. Yes, very well. Yes, we shall tackle matters concerning Kiambu County in a bit And of course next to me. I am with Donasia Jerry She is an aspirant vying for the member of county assembly position For Casa Rani Ward Carousel and Donasia. Thank you very much. Are you feeling good? So today I'm with the ladies I cannot fail to touch on that particular aspect because This time round we are seeing more women coming up to vote for political seats We shall be able to tackle that also as you continue with this morning Conversation right here on why in the morning? Let us know what you think about this matters That we shall be tackling the hashtag is why in the morning at Ram Aguco That is my handle that why 254 channel which is official station handle also There is no way watching us from and of course, let me start with you Beatrice You're vying for the deputy position for deputy governor position for Kambu County. Yes Tell us a bit more about about yourself Beatrice Tairu for somebody who is getting to know you more today and Your party together with the person that you're vying with. Okay. Yeah, so as you have said, my name is Beatrice Cairo I'm a health economist I'm vying for the deputy governor Kambu County. We are an independent candidature With my running mate who is Agnes Ndongo Agnes Washukan Dongo She's the one vying for the governorship for Kambu County. We decided to be Independent because we wanted to bring in a new fresh breath into these politics of the Kambu County Myself have been both in the public sector and the private sector in terms of program management In terms of engaging in the healthcare sector in terms of development in various angles and sectors within Kambu County And also in the larger public that is Kenya large So for this time round, I'm grateful to the governor who is vying that is Agnes Ndongo for considering a youth this time round because for a very long long time the youths have been Neglected for a very long time the youths have always been told their leadership is tomorrow is tomorrow So we keep waiting for tomorrow, but how she decided the leadership of the youths is today So they need also to be engaged on the on the round table They need to also to participate because if we don't have a Generation that is being empowered then there will be no generation in the future So this is the time that the youths also need to participate. They also need to be part and parcel in the running of this Big country of ours in terms even in the county government. So that is what we are bringing on board and her being also a Leader in her own Self she has also a lot to bring on board because we have seen for example like Kambu County The budget allocation for Kambu County only 2.7 percent is allocated for the youth the women and the children yet These are the largest chunk of the population So because of these neglects that we have seen in the counties we were especially for Kambu County We decided we won't sit on the bench. We need to arise and also be participatory. You know, it's one thing to keep saying Let's do this. Let's do this, but it's another thing to also arise and participate And of course, I want to thank you so much. Yes. It's one thing to talk Yes, but it's another thing to implement Why you why should the people of Kambu County say that you know what let's let's look at at Agnes Yes, and and and Beatrice. Yes. Why these two individuals? Why you? The reason why as one we are passionate Passionate for the people not our stomachs for the people because for a very long time We've had poor leadership management, especially in Kambu County Why people get the position? They sit on those positions by the end of the day They have their own selfish interests and selfish gains such that to the level the normal average Kambu person Doesn't benefit at all. So as we are bringing in passion as we are bringing in expertise as we are bringing in experience Because the key problem in Kambu County is the management of the resources of the Kambu people that have been entrusted to the leaders For them to manage for them to ensure their systems working for the people Because one of the key role of government is ensuring efficiency and effectiveness of the services because the people haven't trusted you So you are the servant of the people and for us. We are bringing in what we call servant leadership point to ensure Effective and efficient systems within Kambu County. All right. All right. Let me come to Donizia I hope I pronounce it well. Donizia. It's Donizia. Donizia My English teacher taught me well. Donizia. Let us know a bit more about what you are doing here and in particularly In particular I am talking about you vying for the county, for the ward rep for Kasarani And a bit more about your desire. Why are you desiring this particular position? Okay, to start with this. My name is Donizia Njeri, Jagi or they call me Ghashiri Kega I am a businesswoman in Nairobi County. I am a mother. I am a wife all that inclusive and let me say that going for the MCO in Kasarani Ward representative is that I got a conviction. Let me say that I've been there Wired for some time but to get the leaders the people who are coming to leaders They have no they don't have the people at heart So you'll find that like my sister said these people all these leaders They are doing these things for their own interest But you find that the monarchy down there is suffering and suffering and suffering And so I started and after getting the conviction. I was like, okay I've never been to politics, but I've been to leadership. So where do I start being a first timer? And like she said we are told that we are leaders We Made to be leaders of tomorrow, but we say No, this is not the leaders of tomorrow We have to be the leaders of today and let the today be today And so I got a bold step stepped out and told the people that I'm vying for the mca. I want to represent them And let me say it's not easy But ring nine men in the world They are nine men. I am the only lady and I see god in this because I am also an independent candidate and you know the hustles and tabs that were there in getting the Signatures and they even the photocopies and all that but I then got that we made it through and congratulations Beatrice for being there. So if we have independent people Who want to lead we have the party and all these things Let us focus on a leader who is there to serve the people Not people not leaders who are there to serve their own interest Let us make a choice and having a choice of choosing a leader By the qualities or maybe through the manifesto that we are going to bring to you And let me say that our manifesto or my manifesto is going is tackling mostly on women youth and even That is job creation for the youth the women empowerment I call it pocket power for each and every person in my word So I look forward to leading the people of kasarani and I hope that and pray that they are going to vote me All right. Now what What do you believe makes you stand up from the rest of the gubernatorial candidates that we have for kiambo county? Okay, for us one we are bringing in integrity I am me and my counterpart. We are godfaring and for me I believe that there is a sanctity of life for the mere fact that we have human beings in existence You as a leader you are a servant of those people So we when you go in with that Mentality knowing that you are a servant of the people Then you go with a lot of integrity with a lot of caution with a lot of passion defending the same same resources Because one of the key role of a gubernator is to ensure that the resources that have been entrusted to them You ensure that you protect it So you you definitely have to have that integrity and in our services in every various sectors that we have served Both even the the governor who is running that is Agnes Washukandongo As she has served also in the municipal Municipality of Karoli She has ensured that the the resources that were allocated to that municipalities have actually been utilized to the letter For what they were allocated for because what we want is accountable leaders and for us We are we're going to have what we call an open door policy for the kiambo people whereby they can ask us question We live in a country where leaders don't want to be accountable. They don't want to be asked question They don't want to be asked. Why is this this road not working? Why is this hospital not working for us? We want to encourage the people of kiambo that it is going to be an open door policy Where they can actually approach us Interrogators say what they want for what they want the accounting to be done And that is what is lacking in our country. We want to to remove that Out of leadership where you can't be touched You can't be questioned. No, you are above the law. We want now to show the The kiambo people and holistically the Kenyan people that actually leaders are meant to serve you Not you serving your leaders now Beatrice. Let me let me be Particular now. Yes, because I love the fact that you're trying to mention the particular areas that We are problems. Yes, let me talk about water. Yes, what you plan in regards to Providing reliable and sufficient water for people of kiambo because we have places where water is a problem Yes, and as you connect that I want you to talk about even the area of There are some places that have to That goes on for for days even weeks without without water. All right And I believe you are aware of that. How what change are you going to make? So first and foremost one of the Problems that was in the in kiambo county one was infrastructure for water services So we need what water sanitation and sewerage go hand in hand. So because of Poor infrastructures that have been set up within kiambo county. That is why some regions don't actually even have water So we have other project waters that even come from Moranga county that also feed into kiambo county and other water allocation services So once you set up the structures whereby water has to be directed into several of these sub counties That is where we need to put a lot of funding into it So that at least the homes or areas that don't have access to this water. They're able to get this water So there are also other areas whereby Some regions where you do what we call borehole water drilling. This is something the county is going to invest in So that those areas that maybe don't have water resources like rivers They can actually even have borehole water, which can ensure there is a lot of utility services for for the water services So and you know that well when there is no clean water also health is also affected, right? So when we improve water and you improve the sewerage Definitely, you're also going to improve the health of that county and number two You know that 31 percent of the the revenue generated by kiambo county is from agricultural sector So we need to and we need to improve the water services Why so that we can promote a lot of agricultural farming within that county And once we improve the agricultural sector, what will happen the women will be employed The youth will be employed because we're also looking at job creation activities Yes, so because jobs are not necessarily sitting in an office So we are trying to be broad but now this time around the same youths We're in we're in our 21st century where technology has improved So these same youths are the ones who are very innovative and want to incorporate into that Now let me take your few steps back. Yes, you mentioned that water is connected to health. Yes, so far Yes for the past four months Yes And and and I know it may be longer. Yes for others Yes, we have we have health workers who have not been paid in kiambo county for the past four months. Yes, and of course I know you are aware of I am a healthcare worker myself. Yes. Yes. What Change do you feel needs to be done in kiambo county? And if elected do you believe that your regime together with your With your counterpart will bring a change for the health workers in kiambo county. Very true One one of the key areas is efficiency of systems So one one of the major problems that county governments have been experiencing is the delay of disbursement of resources from the national treasury Are you getting so it's for us as as a county government to know how can we push The national treasury to be ensuring it disbuses the resources on time Because this is the resources for the people So it is the duty of the government to resist to release the resources on time. That's one Number two What are the systems that have been placed in in terms of if it's the payroll system In terms of when the budget is a location is the budget executed on time You see these are issues of of leadership whereby you have a budget But because of either lack of integrity or either lack of passion or service to the people Somebody does not want to execute a budget because remember in the county assembly They have already passed a budget which comes on the desk of the governor So it is for you to push systems to ensure that whatever budget has been set on your table has been executed on time All right. Yes. All right. Yes. That that will push that will ensure we push Welcome to donasia. Um, you can hear the the things that she's saying she's going to push for the people of kiambo. What are some of the agenda that you have for the people of kasarani That you have said that you are going to achieve within the first 100 days once you get to office Okay, for me in kasarani world, I thank my sister that She has so much inside being a governor. How I wish you were in Nairobi But let me say like she's saying uh About empowerment that is women and youth empowerment unfortunately in Nairobi, what we get is the What do I call it these? Agricultural things that you get from rai and kamuru and all those areas But one she said about women empowerment through agriculture in Nairobi You find that we have so many Mamambogas this bike guys the youths who are jobless one thing I say is for our youth Not that there are no jobs for the youth the jobs are there But where or who will let these youths get to know how to get these jobs So my priority is for the youth as I said women empowerment with this The moment we empower women we empower the community. So, so yes, you've said women youth Are the Particular groups that you're going to handle. Yes now within the first 100 days What are those issues that you want you want to achieve? If you get into office concerning these particular areas that you target, okay I was coming there. So in this first 100 days, we have the Money that is given by the government the youth fund and the women fund and even the for the pwds One thing is the money is there, but there's no one to enlighten on the on how to get these monies So and if they know there's a lot of protocol that is there before getting this money released My work as an mca is to push to the mp or even to the county assembly to the National The national assembly for this money to be released like she said on time because And even to have the what do we call them their classes on how to get this this money And how the youth are going to benefit. Let's say for a for an example. I am a woman I get maybe to get this fund like I am big even like a hundred thousand I'm told to pay in maybe in one year or two years This money is going to boost me a lot in my business that I'm going to do for the youth I tell them my work will be ensuring that this money comes to them So that it is going to help them. Let's say they are in groups of 10 They are given like a hundred k. They subdivide this money among themselves So you'll find that maybe this guy sells Oranges another one sells cabbages another one does this at the end of the day They are going to consolidate all this money and you'll find that they are going to make a profit They'll be able to give their interests. They make their profits and they save something for themselves We have them having families They have families they want to feed but they are jobless. What do they do? They start mugging us So we say there's a lot of insecurity, but this insecurity can be carved through Giving them these monies or even knowing how to create these jobs for them And the moment they are very busy they're not get to be idle because we say And I don't mind is the devil's workshop So these guys all these ladies all these women they'll be strategizing through the day So tomorrow I'll go to kamuru to get some Cabbage or some scum a week to come and sell but the moment they are not busy they'll be saying like, okay Today we can go to such a home Maybe do this we are going to wait for people as they come from job They get mugged for the women too I say a woman the moment you give you give a woman like 500 shareings being that you're the husband of the house Or even the man of the house You find that this woman will be able to Subdivide this money in that house. You're going to eat have a big breakfast and all that and even save for chama Through this 500 but giving a man these 500 she'll be like, okay So I say empower woman and you'll see the change Do you think that aspect of women in leadership is playing out during this time that you've been campaigning Now that you mentioned that you're the only woman who is vying Among all the men In in in in in kasarani world. Yes. Let me say the ground has been very positive Let me say and we're seeing that people are embracing women being in politics or being in leadership Yes, have they given you a nickname so far? And I thank god that We are given by the ORPP Offices or the IBC. I was given Sir And I say it's now time It's about time now for women to be in leadership Even if you look all over the world things are changing and women are getting these chances and I say women You're going to win it. This is the time for women and it's women time for all Beatrice. Um, still this is an issue of women. Um, interestingly. I've not seen Any other aspirants in in for uh, kiambo county gubernatorial seat. Yeah, that is Completely women. There is no other unless there is one I'm not I'm not aware of. Yeah, I think you're the only one. Yes. Yeah so, um How different is it coming out for you campaigning and they're trying to get the votes now that The gubernatorial uh candidate the governor vying is is a woman. Yes You as a deputy vying for the same position. Also a woman youth is and a youth It is a youth youth. Yes. How different is it now? um The beauty of it we're in the 21st century and people have realized uh issues are not gender When i'm hungry as a woman as a man you're also hungry hunger doesn't know any gender exactly health does not know any gender When it comes to work and earning in terms of there's not no any gender So at the end of the day, we are now moving from gender based issues and now to economical issues Do we have somebody who has a solution to manage the issues at hand? Irrespective of your gender because once we move away from fighting gender issue based, you know fighting gender Maybe that's when as a region even as an african continent will be able to move Forward because at the end of the day, we ask yourself who can do the job That's the question who can do the job and that is where people need to be focusing on so for us Given an opportunity, uh, and that's why i'm i'm really grateful uh to agnes. We are calling her mama nakazi Mama ni agnes. Why because this time round she is the only one who has decided Let's take her youth and for us the youth it doesn't matter whether you're male or female So long as you you have now been brought on to the table to do it. So this time round people are a bit civilized people are a little bit Literate and realizing that even what? It doesn't matter what your gender is so long as at the end of the day can you deliver That is where people should be focusing has that person delivered because obviously for the last 10 years We have had uh people who are male seated As governors and look still the same issues are still pending because how can 2.7 percent be allocated in the budget For the largest chunk of the population that is children women and the youth That tells us there is a problem somewhere. So maybe this time round We need someone who is also going to focus on there on the 75 percent of the population that has not yet been Has not had been looked at has not had been looked into but that does not mean We do not Reveal the role of a man in society. We have to be clear on that here. We are not just saying You know feminism where we now exclude the male gender is no no no We are seeing we are just trying are you the one better placed with the solution to bring everyone on board There will be no discrimination and say now the men have been forgotten because I know sometimes people cry No, no, no the boy child is not forgotten because one way or another the boy child the girl all came from a woman, right? So at the end of the day it is for us to ask herself who has the The the the integrity who has the knowledge who has a way out or a solution out to help us as a community I wish we had the time. Yes, we would go to the nitty gritties. I almost went I Would mention the nitty gritties you mentioned 24 billion. How many you mentioned some some amount of money that was allocated No, I was saying 2.7 2.7 percent of the budgets No, there's something below that you mentioned earlier unless I am I'm thinking in billions, but But I wish you could be able to mention the integrities. Okay, but let me let's bring it um and give it a general loop here And come to the youth perspective. Okay, and this goes goes to the both of you. All right, we've seen campaigns where youth have have Gotten rowdy. Yes, and and and we see stones, you know Be being thrown, you know at vehicles at choppers at you know, and and we were getting hurt and wounded We need to make this election different Yeah, and we need to start with Knowing what the role of the youth is when it comes to promoting peace, especially during elections. We're talking about Donacia Donacia is the name So one thing I'll say is our youths And I'm very sorry to say this the moment we were doing the id collections or even the Yeah, the id collections. I noted that most of these youth don't have id's and they also have no Voters card. So you find that these youths are not voters So what will happen? They are going to be used by maybe our opponents to make everything look rowdy for you So I'll say as youths let everybody be engaged where you're supposed to be if you're not going to vote Just remain at home so that you're not going to cause chaos And if we are youth and you're going to vote just vote go back home because we want a peaceful election and we want to have Let me say we want to have maybe getting back to our works after nine hours This is a one-day thing And can cause us too much of our time and you find that the moment the moment you are not working Our economy is not growing. So I'll advise like for the youth Let us not be used by any politician And I'll say for my case being a woman it's getting tough Battling these nine men in my world because you'll find that ah Well, I'm super attauna any but I tell them the moment you given 50 bomb or even a hundred shillings And you vote the wrong person in because of the money he or she gave you You are going to get in to a root shock coming five years down the line You'll be eating that a hundred shillings for five years Not remembering that for these five years. You're going to be suffering Yeah, because at the end of the day you can't be able to sustain all these people So what will happen is the little you get Maybe you give them the little get but you'll find that even tomorrow when you go back there and come be a mohesh You know how these you stalker. So you'll find that today. Maybe my opponent has money He comes gives them Comes and give them When you go there, they don't know me and beat it don't know punch the dude don't know any Maybe you've gone with a hundred for them. It is not like money. So you find that You're going to be attacked by them You can even have a physical attack. So I'll say for our youths To quen our surface See as I am money. So let us focus on having a great Kenya where we are going to vote and vote wisely But now I think we need to change this this narrative I'm looking at the perspective of handouts and and and how it is It is affecting voter turnout Um, shouldn't we change it? Shouldn't we come out from from voting based on who gave me what? to who Has what in terms of content in terms of their manifestos in terms of their plans in terms of the things that they They believe in, you know The the the ethos and battles we should be talking about the things that actually matter You know, I find that these are the same same people Who now let's say the leaders or the politicians because I'm not classifying myself as a Politician I am a leader and that's why you find that when you're going to talk to these people You are giving them your manifesto They are those who are willing to listen to you like yesterday I did a door to door and these people are very okay. Where have you been we need you We want to have you there We don't want these corrupt people Because they are those who are there for their own interest. So I'll say We don't have to do the handout campaigns or the handout politics Let us sell our manifestos let us sell our genders and we allow everybody to sell his or her Manifesto to the people and people are going to buy the best. Let me come to you beatrice of the same Yeah The the future of a nation or the future of a community is highly Dependable on the youths or the quality of youths it has So what that means therefore is that We have to ensure that the because it's the hugest chunk For crying out aloud. It is the hugest chunk. So it is for us as leaders. How do we? Mentor this this group because tomorrow they'll be the one representing us when you're in your old age Right. So if we if we bring out rowdy people violent people People who have no integrity people who think it's taking by force people who think they have to break their way To in in order to get services or in order to get certain position Well, that means that is the culture that is going to progress for even another hundred years 200 years to come So this time round even as or on the ground when you're engaging the youths We're telling them come let us reason together. Can we have a reasonable? Does it really pay when you're given a thousand bob you eat you go to the toilet? And then tomorrow your future is at jeopardy You know you reason and tell them who would you rather want someone who is calling you on the table Engaging you and asking you as a youth. What do you really want to be done? So some will tell you can we Teach us more on agriculture farming. Can you help us in the like now? There's the orange economy. Do you are you aware of the orange economy whereby creativity music art? Not necessarily The outlet you must be a runner. You must you know, you must be in You know in in the sports industry content creators. Yeah, there's content creation. There is music There's creativity apparently in limuru. There are two youths Who just finished high school and already they have created robots in terms of helping disabled people exactly So as a county government, those are the talents we'll be seeking and looking out for those and funding You see a county government is supposed to set aside funds those two youths are supposed to be brought on board What is it called push to the forefront given investment in knowledge and tapping into that because that is a talent The greatest asset of our youth is the imaginative aspect You see the old are able to give you wisdom and telling you my son don't go here Because they have lived longer but the youth have the agility of the mind. They are a bit creative All they need is a little bit of direction and this is where we come on board Where by we're able to say can we identify talent talent does not necessarily mean their dancers or talent does not necessarily mean The talent could be innovative Technology another one invented on how to help farmers track the weather Using a mobile phone. So that is the youth who has come up with such a cause The county government should be able to find such a youth support such a youth Because in the process you'll even be helping the the farmers who are maybe not youths But they're also in the in the in the farming industry So this is what we are telling the the the people of kiambu that you voting in A deputy governor who is a youth and a lady who has also managed the youth and worked and interacted with the youth This is what it will project because at the end of the day, there'll be the ones to take over either way At the end of the day, so now let me let me give you time because of the interest of time I want to give you each 30 seconds. Okay. Let's have a final word. Okay, and I want you to talk to your people I'll start with you. Um, that is your camera. What is your parting shot? So for my people in kasarani word This is your Hashemiwa your honorable member of county assembly Don't listen Jerry ready to serve you with integrity God driven and I urge each and every person in kasarani Let's vote for a leader not for a politician or let's let's listen To what I have for you my manifesto is big and very soon Like on Wednesday, I'll be on the ground and I'll be selling my agendas to you Listen and listen and vote wisely. Let's have a peaceful election And maintain peace One day we will I said another day that we will talk about Particular issues affecting kasarani people, right? But let me come to you bitris final word talk to the people of kiambo county Okay, to the people of kiambo county I would urge you that come on august 9th 2022 Come out in numbers vote for us Agnes washukandongo for governorship with bitris wangui kairou. We are independent candidates We are god fearing people and we have integrity and passion for serving the people of kiambo county Please just understand that politics is not based on handouts. Politics is policy issue policy based issues Economic best issues. This is what should be addressed and try us. You will not regret God bless you as you do. So come the 9th of august 2022. As I understand now Next time also say the same thing Particular issues We are security we are ready We are very much ready. You're ready. Yeah, very ready You're the counter part Yes, you're running me I wish you guys the best. Thank you. I love the enthusiasm and I love the fact that you know what it's no longer about Gender gender is out of the the table. It's about what you're bringing on the table. Yes, I understand Thank you. I wish you guys the best. Keep doing what you're doing and of course looking forward to having more discussions if we meet after the elections Let's talk about this again As I understand that business to the end of this conversation on youth and politics My name is Ram Aguko. Keep engaging with us. We are taking a short break. But after this, we still have more coming up your way