 Hey, what's up, Birmingham? August the 19th, I will be at the Birmingham Theater Hill. Yeah, that's right, damn, what you heard. It's going down like that in a major way. You know how it goes down when I pull up at Birmingham? Shit, just get crazy. I ain't even wanna say shit in this ad, but shit just get crazy. So look, make sure you click the link, hit the website, get the tickets, put your outfit on, pull up on me. One show on the Birmingham, one show. I'm keeping y'all in my rotation because y'all treat me like family when I come down now. Because Mississippi and Alabama kind of like the same thing, but different. So pull up on me, we'll talk about the difference. I'll see you there. I'm like this nigga tall. I said, great it, man. Man, they had to hit me with the breathing tube to get to open up my lungs. I went to anaphylactic shock is when your windpipe and shit closed up. Closed up. So you had to put a tube down your throat. Yeah, that's one of what I'm gonna tell me. Yeah, man, she going surgery. I'm like, man, shut the fuck up. No, so I had to put two down and shit and open that bitch up. And open it back up, yeah. You a third time over a pretzel. One piece of pretzels now. That's it. And that's all it take. So like I said, for me, it's different. Now I got grown up with food allergy, so I'm like, I don't, it's so much shit. I ain't never had. Niggas like, nigga, you ain't never had a Reese's Knicker. No. You ain't missin' shit. You ain't never had a Snickers? No, nigga. They can listen to the mother fucker, but you ain't missin' shit. No, they ain't. You'll be singin' it so hard for them to say goodbye. Nope. You're so hard to say goodbye, nigga. The hell nah, fuck that. Fuck the peanut butter cups. Nah, nigga, fuck peanut butter in general, nigga. I'm bein' with that motherfucker. You can't even fuck with peanut butter brown women. No, that's different. That's different. I don't even know why you would just do that like that. It hit my mind. How about you go on the floor? White women, that's crazy. Nah, I don't know that. That's nuts too, man. You gotta be the chocolate. Nah, I'm the chocolate. That's nuts too. That's all you heard. At the peanut butter chocolate. Yeah, I can do that. J.O.N., I think it's time for you to play out some Pimpin' Man. Uh-oh. Mmm. That's it, that's it. That's the one he liked. Yeah, he was, the whole time we been talkin' that nigga been open up the chocolate like, the whole time we been talkin' that nigga been like, this nigga don't respect me. I'm about to drop this zoom on this nigga. What's that? That's that Commodore? Commodore Zoom. Oh, yeah. Here we see. That's my shit right there. Y'all. Yeah. That's back when Lionel Richie had the streets unlocked. Oh, okay. Hell, yeah, that nigga was the coldest. You feel me? You killed that shit. That's the type of shit we be on over here, man. We just be vibing and shit just trapped out. Come on. Get it in. I'm saying y'all doin' it for many months. Come on. Oh, yeah. We been doin' this podcast shit before niggas knew what a podcast was. Fat. We really kinda defined what it was for, you know, for urban podcasts because there wasn't a whole lot of people out here. And everybody else just follows suit. Come on. And it's like, you know, it's like, get in where you fit in. Niggas want to. You know, there's a need. Black people have voices and we need to discuss certain topics and certain capacities. Niggas want shit next year. We need some niggas like us who gonna talk that shit and bring it real. Then we need some niggas out here giving bad relationship advice. Then we need some ladies giving, they point of view on niggas giving bad relationship advice. Then we need some niggas and some women giving collective bad advice. Then we got to see some people who spiritually uplift us. Some black positivity. Some motherfuckers who entertain us. Some people who gonna tell us how to eat better and get this money. It's all type of lies that black people need to be in. And we in ours. Come out. That's why we can move and do what we want to do because we ain't worried about what nobody else doing. Yeah. It's that not bad. Why don't you get some? Got everybody having a start. Yes. In certain ways. What a hard kid. But we got to bring integrity back. And we got to make sure that everybody got the resources that they need to be successful. Come on. And that's the whole point of this platform right here. That's why we don't just be bringing everybody through here. And we really focus right now on bringing nothing but ghetto legends. Now people felt like the people said, you supposed to be in here. Who stopped? And then we look up and I see you doing all these other podcasts. And I took that person out of here and I said, Nick. He did take it first. Don't go on nobody else's shit without coming to the trap. He called me one o'clock in the morning. You see this shit? Do you see this shit? I'm like, bro, bye, bye, slow. What you talking about? He must be doing a favor for somebody because we really know this nigga. Come on. I told you, I've been trying to get over here. First of all, this shit is in the trap. Y'all think it took me over an hour to get to the trap. Ain't nobody tell you to be way the fuck out there where you at. Where? Where we at? Way the fuck out there. We definitely way the fuck out there. Yeah, man. Where we shoot that. Where, yeah, all the way. Ain't no way they charge you to go way out there. They had to ask you for a favor because that's fucking far. What happened to Tyler Perry? We ain't fucking, we ain't shooting that Tyler Perry. Nigga, that's the most popular motherfucker in studio to shoot at in Atlanta. That motherfucker's booked up for years. Yeah. Marvel and all of them are gonna shoot over here. Tyler, I talked to Tyler and they can say, I can't even shoot my own shows over here. We can't do center stage no more? Center stage. Center stage? Yeah, that wasn't big enough. And then, you know, they have venues, so they got shows and shit. Like, you gotta block that shit out for a month. That shit. That was the ladies. Who was talking about that shit the other day? We had a whole fucking club in that fucking green room. We had a party after every episode. That shit was like a club. I used to do that shit, too. I just, the liabilities, it's just like, it wasn't happening. Yeah. And then they just started them stories. Not that, not that particularly you. I mean, I'm just saying in general, you know what I mean? Like, all the different shit. All the different shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the way. But if you want to be technical, that was the ladies. Oh, my Lord. Oh, no, no, no. Y'all niggas ain't been around. Yeah, I don't know, man. I can't say, I can't say. Y'all niggas haven't been around. Every last one on. Yeah, well, I say, since they came back. I don't know about the old shit. No, I mean, that don't even count. I wonder if they're to watch them. We were here. I don't think it's possible. I think it's possible. All right, we'll fucking deal without further ado. We got a very special ghetto legend in here with us today. Yeah. He got a long list of credits. He has literally done everything that a nigga can do in life. Right. This man has an amazing life. He has at least 30 jobs. Right. Very entertaining. He gave all of us the opportunity to be better niggas. Right. So it's an honor and a privilege to have none other than. Then who? Nick Cannon and Trev. Nick Cannon. Nick Cannon. Nick Cannon. Nick Cannon. Nick Cannon. Nick Cannon man. Nick Cannon. All the way, man. Man, it was about fucking time. God damn, oh, gee, you're gonna get a dog out of the coming. You know, we would leave work together. We just did the day. Like I asked him, we was on set, you know what I mean? We was walking off at the last show. I said, Nick, man, where you coming to the podcast? He's like, man, let's do it. Let's shut it off. Let's do it. Let's go, let's do it. You know, when you get the half-pitch boys, you notice that when you get the half-pitch boys, I'm like, oh, he really coming. Let's do it. Come on, man. First of all, you don't have shit to worry about on the 85p self show. Every time you go on the podcast, you say some crazy shit that gets the internet all riled up. I'm probably going to say some crazy shit here, too. All right, who the fuck? That's on you. We going to go viral? It's on you. That's what we do, man. This suit, this suit loud as hell. Yeah, and you know, I'm loud. That's all I give a fuck. I ain't never give a fuck. Why do you wear them shades? I just want them. God damn, OG, please, man. You don't like my shades? I do. I do because I got to go work tomorrow. But why do you have you wear them shades? You wear a lot of shades, but them? These are my YSLs, I love these shit. But I'm going to tell you, because it's like when it's Clark Kent and Superman. Like, this is really the low key look. This is I got to be up at five in the morning. This is late at night, turban, star shades. But I look different when I get paid millions of dollars on TV. So this is just the cover-up shit where I just wear them on TV, too. But when you don't see me with glasses on, that's when I'm getting paid the most. So when you got glasses on, that is the mascot. This is the, you know, you only can see my eyes when you're giving me millions of dollars. The rest of you niggas is under suspicion. I don't know who this is I'm talking to. I might be sleep under these glasses. But see, that's the thing, like, we didn't, you know, it's so crazy to have you here, man, because like I said, we came in this shit a decade ago, like, and we was, like, me and Los talk all the time, like just about that position that we was in, just in life at that time. Niggas was broke. I'm talking about just broke, bro. I remember. Sending $50, $60 home and shit, like, so for you being a person that, you know, like you said, gave us the opportunity to be better niggas, like, was that your intention? For the whole time or was it just like a, something that you just was doing? Because like you said, you was a nigga that know how to get millions of dollars on television. I know, that's where I, shoot, I built the platform for, to give niggas opportunity. Like even when I, the early seasons, when it was Cat Williams, Kevin Hart, DeRay, Atheon, like, I was just to be like, look, I was on, I was doing movies and music and shit, but, and I had the relationship at Viacom, so I was just like, yo, let me create something to, to put the squad on, and it just started working. So it was, even by the time y'all came around, it was, that's the M.O., you know what I mean? Like we just gotta make sure, and we just keeping our eye out for cats who, you know, really had the sauce and really had to work at it to, I mean, look what y'all built, y'all built, you know what I mean? Like that's, that's, that's the beauty of it all, when you get, when you say, yo, it's a lot out there to go get, and motherfuckers really pay attention and go get it. But that's what it's here for. But the thing is though, like you had the show and it went away, and you didn't have a necessity to bring it back. You didn't need it. So what, that's what I'm saying as far as what made you wanna bring like the, to go there right again. Yeah man, I was at the crib, I was married, I was chilling, you know what I mean? I'm gonna be honest, I would, I had to start, cause I started paying attention to the battle rap world, and I would see cats like Kahn and Clips and Hitman, and I just became a fan of it. And I was like, yo, that's, that's really what we used to do on Wildin' Out, but they took it and really just culture-fied it all the way, and took it, took it to a whole new level with the level of talent, and even how authentic and grimy it was. I mean, obviously, I think it's been battle rapping since, you know, the Cold Crush Brothers, Cool Modi, and all, you know, Treacherous Three, but the wind, when we put it out there in the earlier seasons of Wildin' Out, we made it fun, and you know, it was me and Kanye, and you know, like it was really on some like, paying homage to like the backpack type shit, and then they took battle rap culture and like turned it into something, and then shit after that, I was like, yo, I should do this again with a whole new generation, and I was inspired by that, I was like, if I'm gonna do it again, I'm gonna flip it like this. And I was already, you know, I was running the teen division of Nickelodeon at the time, so I was already over there, and even at one point, I was thinking like, let me just do like a Wildin' Out for teenagers or for kids, like on some more educational type stuff. So then I kind of stopped developing that, and I was like, I'm gonna just bring it back, and. Thank God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly, boy, appreciate you for that thing. Yeah. Damn. And then that's what we did, we brought that shit back, I mean, shit. You see, I like. And y'all too was on, you know, the first iteration, and then, you know. Yeah, two T-shirts, season, two T-shirts, two T-shirts, the 25 cent bag of chips. Yeah. But you know what though, like now, being there, and being, you know, one of the, well, how many of us left? It's just me, you. Like five. E-man. And con, right? From that original season five. How many people was there, four? There was four, it's only four of us. Shit, it was, but last time we took a picture, it was more than four people. Well, fuck it, this is to be disappeared. There, but it's like that process there, but I use that as an example all the time, because that was like gladiator school. Hell yeah. In regards to the time that we came in, it's like, it's different now, because you know, the platform has grown, and it took on a life of its own, but when we came in, Corey and them niggas was like, fuck, it's just snickers. And you had to prove yourself in a way that wasn't, it wasn't no writers, it wasn't nobody to help you, it was just. I think the comedians was looking at y'all, like, especially like Spanky. Yo, I would be like, boy, you remember that shit? Yeah, I mean, for real, bro. Like it was crazy. They really apologize niggas? Nah, they was like, man, who are these niggas? Yeah, I wouldn't say, not in front of us, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but their opinion never mattered. If you really gonna gauge what you about to do off of what a nigga like that say, that ain't never been mine, bro. Them niggas ain't never impressed me. This nigga came in and took their whole energy. And he's not doing the same shit. He hate all the new niggas too. Who was that alike? All right. You can't name a nigga in there that I was wrong about. You don't like nobody. They not likeable people. You just be finding, you found a random nigga with a towel on his head. Well, I think it was, he was a- No, he wasn't. Yes, he was. He was terrible. He was called TikTok. He was called Musically. Hey man, you should have left his ass on that ad. I tell you that. I don't know. It was a kid, he was a young boy. I don't know what the fuck he was. I forgot what his name was. He was a totally American. The Christian, that was the nigga there. Do you see how you don't even remember the nigga name? That's what I'm talking about. You should have left his ass on that ad. Nigga loves the whole ad. He came from your whole personality. He's tying a towel around your head. Hey, that nigga, and I used to do some weird shit. He used to like put his legs behind his head. Why are you impressed by shit like that? I'm gonna tell you why. This nigga is an asshole, bro. This nigga- That should not be enough to be on Well and Not. No, you gotta understand. This nigga, I learned the first workshop how much of an asshole this nigga was at his core. Like people see the nigga, that glass and shit. Like whoever up under there, that's who that nigga really is. Like nigga, we in the workshop the first day. The first day we walking around and shit or everybody walking around, this nigga got a shocker. This nigga like a Batman. I'm like this nigga. Bruh. Hey, man. I'm Nav Green, and this is The Family Business. I'm Clayton English. You know what time it is. I'm Money Bad Mafia, and we doing perks in the VIP. Man, you got a- Me and Greek. Bro. We got to talk about the show first. You don't go to the place to talk about the show. I told you all that shit at the end. I told you first at Zainis. I told you first at Zainis Family Business Tour. Thank you. You know what it is. Tickets, 85 South Shore. You get the tickets for the meet and greet afterwards. And you know, it's not going to be no regular meet and greet. It's going to be the freakiest shit you ever seen in your life. We pop in Perth. No, no, no, no. As we pop in every place. Ladies, ladies, just come to the meet and greet and it's really going to be a greet and meet. It ain't different. Huh? It's going to be a greet and meet. I'm going to play upon this y'all. Y'all going to play upon this y'all. I'm going to come back there to the VIP to meet and greet. Oh, man. If Family Business, right? We playing Spades in there. Domino, drinking plenty liquor. The Family Business Tour and what Money Bad does is completely separate. He's more like an independent contractor. I'm a sole proprietor. We are not. What's up, y'all? It's your girl, Lex P. And y'all know we coming to Nashville August 19th. We going to be at City Winery. Doors open at 6. Show starts at 8. And guess what, y'all? It's my birthday week. So y'all know this show is going to be super lit. We got some special guests coming through. OK, so it's what she's saying, yes. She's saying, yes. What you say, no? No? Yes. I see mostly yeses. I see mostly. It's what I'm saying. We are going to party so hard, y'all. This is going to be our best show yet. Because last time we went to Nashville, we cut up. This time, it's my birthday week. We really about to cut up. So I'm telling y'all, get your tickets right now, August 19th, City Winery. See y'all soon. Period. You don't want to put it in there. This is the person that you're attached to. Because soon, especially with me, what I'm dealing with now, you know that I'm blowing up and shit like that. And I don't want to get a push out of me. Because hold on, we want to fuck with a nigga until they see you with a nigga. Hold on, we want to fuck with a nigga until they see you with him. Then they want to try him out or be acting like they fucking with you or some shit like that. That's what these bitches do. And some niggas take advantage of her. They feel like they the man. You know what I'm saying? Balls don't got bigger dick, don't got bigger. Boy, pipe down, nigga. Pipe down. I'm the catch on the prize. Slow you roll. Hey, hey, your lover, you agree with that? Hell, yeah, I agree with that. I ain't talking to my nigga if he went missing on a milk car. That's a show. Girl, stop. You doing this? We know where he at. We know where he at. Y'all ain't got to know. I'm learning right now. You know, I'm old. I'm getting tips. Nigga was chosen to play. He was trying to play a game. When you sit in a death row electric chair, wrap a dog collar around your neck, nigga. And if you fuck up the rap, they shock your neck. I'm like, bro, what the fuck did I sign up for? I don't know if I want to make it this bad. It's the leg. That shit was funny as fuck. See? Why they don't do it? Because the standards are practiced anymore, niggas, to get hurt and shit like that. I'm glad you found me on the app. I remember this. He said, shit, just do something. Nigga was funny. I was like, what you want me to do? He was like, I don't know. Nigga, do something. I was like, shit. If everyone ain't going to be gold, there's some fools gold out there. This nigga was already proven by the time he got on Wild Nugget. But nobody gave me a shot. Like how he said, he said, I remember, well, you nod and shelve it. And a line of comedy theater, nigga. And they was in the, you know, nod, giving him a producer look, shelving it. Being shelved. Bro, I didn't even. I know what he had, but just do something. I didn't even have a Wild Nugget audition. Nigga, that's not right. That's not talking shit. That's not talking shit. I was like, who is this nigga in the motherfucking old school talking shit about niggas? Bring that nigga inside. And that's what we got. That's great. Feel the same niggas to this day. I've met this nigga. That's how he got his shot. Two years. Who the fuck going in here doing all this shit? Man, all y'all niggas is terrible. You and everybody in my neighborhood. You ugly. They don't like you. You too old. I was on them niggas ass. Listen, I hadn't met this nigga two years before Wild Nugget even came back. He was doing a Fresh Faces of Comedy show in New York at Gotham Comedy Club. And Dolly was working with him at the same time. Pete Davidson. Me, Pete, and all us came in. You are a new Pete. Yeah, I've been new Pete, you know what I mean? But I came and do the show. And when I came in and do the show, the white man that owned the club was like, yeah, I don't know who you are, bro. So you can't say this. You can't say that. You can't say, I'm like, nigga, what the fuck type shit is this? Bro, one day Pete sent me a message and said, man, I would call you, but I don't have a phone. Recently. That was the last time I talked to him. He said, I would call you, but I don't have a phone. He damn sure said it. Why the fuck you said it? I don't know, but, you know, I didn't even know if I should respond. Or if he was gonna get it, yeah, I feel you. I don't know what he sent it on. Right. So I'm nervous as a motherfucker, right? So I'm like, man, everything that I thought I was gray, say this man just told me I can't say it. So I go outside, my creative process always, you know, I duck off, talk to myself. So I'm outside, walking around in the circle, talking to myself, this nigga pull up, him and Dorian, pull up, see me outside, talking to myself, just look like, hey, New York, walk right in. I go on stage, do my set. I come off, he stopped me and say, hey man, you just was outside making all that shit. You just talked about up just now, wasn't you? Cause I just was talking about what just happened. Like I got on stage and talked about the white man telling me I couldn't do my jokes. You let a white man tell you you couldn't do your job. I didn't do it no better. I didn't know no better. I didn't know no better. I didn't know no better. I've been doing talent for two years at that time. And I'm going up to New York for the first time, not doing this, this nigga here boy, this nigga here is. Man, what type of shit is that? Donk a meal off the top of my niggas. That's the shit you should have said. That's what I said when I got on stage. That you should have said everything he told you not to say. You want to rip that motherfucker. It's so talented. And that's what I recognize, nigga. He style and go freestyle and rock that motherfucker. And he let a white man tell him not to. He ain't gonna let that go. I mean, at least I've been born to reach it. That's what I meant. No, he was a white man. Not to say. See, like I said, I'm still learning. I'm learning the comedy game. You're going to be a comedian and you weren't prepared for this shit all week. And then the motherfucker said, hey. Brilliant. Don't say that. That was a good job. This nigga, I got like a nigga, like a white man told me not to say nothing last weekend. Nigga, I was in 2010, I was doing open mic in Greensboro, North Carolina. Nigga, what the fuck is wrong with you? And he wanted the opportunity. Yeah, and I came up and did the shit, nigga. I get off stage and Nick was like, man, was you just making all that up? I was like, yeah, man. He said, man, keep doing that. I'm around some of the best in the game. They can't do what you just did. And then we went to, I don't know if you remember this, we went to Six Flags the next day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It felt like he was crying. Yeah, we went to Six Flags the next day. She was scared of rollercoaster. Yeah, she was scared of rollercoasters. Nigga made her get on a rollercoaster. This asshole, bro, I've seen this nigga at his court. So I'm- You a terrible person like that? I want to. I want to. Baby, eat a fish. What you mean? Just like me. I ain't no- You terrible, nigga. Nigga just called you Gargabella. I can't even rest. I don't want to hear that shit either. White man talking about his shit. Yeah. I'm evil. That's the case. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, I'm watching you at that time. Mind you, I'm an all the way nobody. I'm just a nigga that's with a nigga that's with a nigga at that time. With two-minute niggas? No, it was, yeah. I was the last nigga. I'm with the assistant of the assistant, nigga. I'm like, ooh, let me stay back years or I'll overstay my welcome. I don't want to do too much. So I'm watching him just as you observe it and I'm seeing him go, you know, he VIP and everybody, they yelling on the speaker, don't hang over the rails and people going crazy trying to take pictures and shit. And I'm looking like, man, this is what success looks like in this game. Can I deal with this shit? And at that point I was like, yeah, and I can deal with this shit. And, you know, at that point I was like, nigga, this is what I'm supposed to be doing. That is just the craziest shit I ever seen with this nigga, a white lady handed him a baby and walked off. What? That was before the kid. I'm telling you, this was out somewhere and the lady just handed this nigga a baby and he was like, who the fuck baby is this? White baby? A white baby. I know that pissed you off. That it wasn't mine. No, that pissed you off. You handed that white lady that white baby. No, I was like, man, this, I didn't even know shit like this happened in America. I ain't never seen that shit before. Where was, where was y'all at? To trust the black man with your baby. Where was y'all at? It must have been on the tour shows or something. Yeah, it was on tour. Trust your fan. Yeah, she wasn't just coming to give me a baby, nigga. How late is tour? What, baby? That first. People ask me all the time, what's the joke that went too far? Like, in the whole history of wildin' now? The one that went, I don't, I don't think there is one that went too far. Niggas done been talk, talked about me dying, niggas done talked about my baby mama, this thing. I don't even give a shit. That's one of the things. I got a thick skin. You can't say nothing to really a thing. That's what I always give you credit for. One of the main things that I give you credit for in our journey, you know, being, you know, people that you gave our opportunity to. A lot of niggas that's in your position to give you the opportunity to stand back and see what you do. Yeah. And just let you go out and just, you know, so a nigga not attached to it like, oh, he's some shit. Ah, well, I mean, hey. Right here, I mean, catch you when I catch you. But you stood beside us the whole time and allowed us to use a nigga that was already a superstar, you know, to let us come up in that regard. You should have talked about me. That's true generation of wealth. I just want to see niggas win. I mean, yeah. That's what it is. I mean, if you really say it about it for 10 years. And y'all took it beyond television. You feel me? We created this energy from being over that. Hell yeah. Movies and fucking record labels, all that shit. Y'all killin' it. Caught you, 85 something in the record label you had? Yeah, yeah. How about the same? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We about the same. Yeah, we ain't going terrible rappers do all this shit. We're terrible rappers, fuck it. Just niggas we believe in. That's all that matters. I don't know, you ain't no terrible rapper. Fuck it, everybody else do it. We ain't gettin' no terrible rapper. Who's gonna invest the money? You gonna invest your part of the money. That's it. Fuck it. I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna cut this shit off and tell that fuck go home. It's cause you gifted, though. No. Like you want somebody to be able to do shit at your level and the term. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're the same kind of tear. That ain't start off. That's his goal. We gonna find some terrible niggas. No, hell no. We gonna find some niggas that get leased. Got talent that won't let them do this shit. He like, no, let's find some motherfuckers who don't even care about this shit. Right. And then he just gonna talk all that shit to me and this nigga and just do exactly what he said this nigga been doing for 10 years. Find some terrible niggas. Terrible niggas. He played just to get our mind tricks. You know what I'm saying? See, he really saying that's what I've been doing is finding terrible niggas. What? Find some niggas that can't even rap better than me and Chico. Who? Niggas, name them. Y'all niggas do more than rap, though. Oh, man, I want to hear that shit. So we just dedicate their life to that shit. That's what it is. Y'all dedicated y'all life to being better than rap. No, we didn't dedicate our life to shit. This is part of what we do. But this is your life. No, this is just like one, one dedicated your life to, bro. Pimpin', don't act like you didn't know this shit. The Mac and the Pimpin' is what got me in the game. Talk to us. It was to give the gas. You the instigator and the motivator. If I couldn't convince these motherfuckers that I'm better than what they thought I was, none of this shit exists. The rejuvenator. I pimp this whole situation. If they second guess you, then use the haters. They think this show is about a fuckin' interstate. Uh, yeah. Niggas, come on. You act like you don't see the Pimpin'. Nah, nigga, I been seen it. They done fucked up and let me get a whole building with the square footage with security. Ain't no takin' my man happenin'. It's not pullin' on me shit. This is it. Look at the couch. Yeah. They coulda got a new one. No, clean that one. Cause we bring a number ghetto royalty through here. We want niggas to feel like they're there until you're out. Come on, man. You kept in the game. Look at this floor. You undedicated your life to. We ain't even done yet. They was about to put a Walmart over here, but we tell them no. This both being Walmart. No, man. Man, I don't do that. People coming back over here and be like, wait a minute, hold up, hold up. We was supposed to put a Walmart right there. Y'all scared of Walmart. I didn't even know it. You got there? Look, I don't look. No disrespect. We ain't scared of Walmart. I won't let a white man tell me. Target and the rest of the motherfuckers. You feel what I'm sayin'? That's all that's, we'll wrap about that later. Yeah, we'll wrap about that. Hey, man, welcome back to the 85th Cell Show. Today we are welling out with none other than Nick Cannon, the most controversial nigga in the game. People only look at the good shit that he do, and they ignore all the controversial shit that he be doing. You gotta be likable, love. Every time you look up, he ain't some shit. As long as they like you, they'll forgive you. Nick, you be wildin', though. I say, wildin' out. You be flirting with TMZ ladies and shit. You can't just be out here sayin' this kinda shit, Nick. You do it? No, but nigga, you, Nick, though, you be havin', you be doin' the most. They give a fuck about you. I'm in a comfortable position in my career where I can say shit and don't nobody give a fuck. You say the wrong shit. It's on the news in the morning. They cancelin' deals. Can't nobody drink, Sprite, no more shit. Bad luck. Don't never gauge your life off the shit I do. You are way more successful than me. I could never be the gauge in your decision-maker. You always tell me, you said, just hire you to pay you to just keep a real nigga around. And I guess you found some other niggas. I was not suggested nobody else. I don't know what the, why you listen, room? That ain't what- You elevated beyond that position. Now you gotta hire real niggas to be around you. Keep you solid and thorough. I am not nigga, Nick. I am the real niggas in my life. I take all the heat for my own decision. But your ass, you out here, just fuckin' goin' crazy in real life, man. I mean, I'm enjoying it, though. You fuckin' shit, yo. I been to TV shows here, you know? Shit, I stopped counting. You stopped counting. What's the most exciting TV show? I know it's ours. I mean, I love Wild'n Out cause that's my baby. You just sayin' that, cause we on, I seen how happy you be on that man's singer shit. You smell the home. The check is a lot nigga. You be smilin' the whole fuckin' time, Nick. I take these goddamn glasses off. See, that's the shit. Nah, I love it in the nigga. You really care about that shit? I remember he was doin' America's Got Talent nigga. That nigga dressin' room looked like the stage we shoot on. I was like, God damn, Nick. Yeah, yeah, good to see you. What's the most exciting, like, one? Lift his arms up to a motherfucker to come fit him for a suit while he standin' right there. I say, yo, man, the nigga went like this. That's, he was like, what's up, shit? And the motherfucker came and dressed this nigga. I said, oh, shit! That's money, money. Bro, this shit different all the way. That's money, money. So what you say is the most exciting show for you then? Ever? I mean, I gotta say as well and out. That's just real shit. That's the most freedom. I mean, one, cause I run it. Right. And I can pretty much do whatever I wanna do. And I created it. Like, from workin' on the logo, to makin' all the beats, to creating the games, to pickin' the cast, like, and then for it to beat. I think we got a restaurant now. We got board games. We got one of a good tour, travel all over the world. Like, I haven't done that in any other capacity. You know what I mean? Like, when you take something that started in here and it literally becomes an iconic legacy for decades. Yeah. That's the motherfuckin' matter. I use Wild or Not as a blueprint for every show and everything that I go on. Cause I always say, well, I'm no Wild or Not. And when it first came on, it was rough. I caught the end part of the gladiator school niggas. When I found out y'all niggas was friends, I was like, damn, Call of the left man, or by myself. You know what I'm sayin'? This niggas don't move it. But that's the thing, man. It's crazy you say that fly because it's a level of talent, man, that you gotta have to do that shit to the level that it gotta be done at. And when you came, it was different. Like, when we first met, that's the first thing you said. When we did me and this nigga downstairs in the lobby, reminiscing like, nigga, we back again and they gave us another one. This nigga come downstairs and say, yeah, what's up nigga? See you to met your real friend and left me, huh? I'm like, oh, you a Wild nigga in real life. What's up with you Slim? But that's the type of shit that you could feel when a nigga gonna be able to blend into that environment because that shit, like this nigga come do the show and then this nigga would at that time he was leaving and going to shoot America's Got Talent right after. And so it was us that was creating the environment that you come into. And we had to fight to be able to establish, like they was trying to give me three shows my first season. They was like, yeah, you're here for three. But they been laying on me since I first walked in the building. So I remember that situation happened with you. Yeah. We happened with you. As soon as we got to the set, bro, the people who put the lights in the ceiling, they was smoking a joint and they thought it was me. They blame Carlos. Really? Yeah. Bro, we just walked in the building and they've been smoking all day. That's crazy. Damn. Been handed out for you. They been handed out for me. Yeah, they ain't. They scared of you. I don't know why. What the shit I've ever been on and I use it as a baby, like can't nobody even say nothing bad about Wild or not. I do no, no sour shit about Wild or not. Because we use it as a platform and we use it as a solid foundation to see how we know how successful TV show work. Not only do we know how successful TV show work, the energy that we have cultivated over the years. Like I said, when we first got there, it was like, it get the show buffers how much shit you can actually do. Right. As a talent. Because you have to do a lot of shit that don't have shit to do with shit you might do, especially if you're a musician or you fuck with the comedy or you fucking, you know, you're a comedian and you have to fuck with the music. But it actually became a work space where people was looking forward to go to. All right, Wild or not called you, they called you too. All right, man, we got two weeks, they go to LA and they gonna shoot this shit, have fun with the bro, go up there and talk some shit. That's what it was. And we gone. You know what I'm saying? That shit was different at the time though. Remember them times where we was waiting on them. I remember, I ain't gonna say the name on here because I don't know if they, what is the old regime. They might be working for somebody else now. We was waiting on them, then pick up notices. Oh yeah. We were waiting, nigga, oh yeah. You ain't never had to wait on no pick up notice. Nigga, yes I did, why not? Nig, you had to, they was worried about whether that day was gonna replace you every season. Well, I mean, we had the show coming back. Is it, did the entire show get picked up? Oh, of course, but I think up notice was after they had already knew the show was coming back. Like you had already be like, yeah, we coming back on time. In three weeks then pass, you like, well, maybe, maybe not. Waiting for the call. Waiting for the call. Like that shit was different, but in a sense of, that's what made us love it so much in my opinion because we really had to work together. Like there was no, you know what I mean? There was no leeway, there was no olive branch in regards to, you know, what you do when you get on that stage. Like when the lights turn on, they're mindless. And I wanna ask you this, like, how is it different for you because in my opinion, you surrounded yourself with talent that you'll always be able to say, man, I found that person. But do you ever had a pressure coming up and performing the way that we feel when we get them emails when we on the show? Does it affect you the same way? Yeah, because I want to keep the brand going. You know what I mean? Now there's an expectation. And even when it comes to like, I don't even like saying like, yo, I found that person or I put that person on. Really, it's the platform that I created that allowed y'all to take it. I think I think Cat Williams even said that shit the best. He was like, wildin' out is like a diving board. He was like, as Niggas that's gonna come and jump on that motherfuckin' new flips and do some Olympic shit and soar. And there's gonna be some motherfuckin' to come bounce on that motherfuckin' and fall the fuck off. So it's like, long as I keep it stable enough for Niggas to continue to launch, then it's the community pool. And then you come jump off and soar with that shit. I ain't gon' cap. I be telling people all the time I put you on cause I know you would never say that. My girl, when I came in the game and we did that first season it was, he was through with it. When you started doin' comedy? Man, 19. Could you a old, young nigga? 17, 16. No, I started doin' comedy in a old five. So you a young nigga? I'm an old nigga. But you carry yourself like an old nigga, but. I was raised around, I'm from Mississippi so I'm automatically 16. You came out when you were born at 37. Yeah, it was. You was an old nigga when you came out, nigga. Yeah, I'm an old, yeah. All the, everybody was old. I grew up around my great-grandma and my real granddaddy. You talking about my real granddaddy? My real granddaddy. Y'all got that old nigga card. I got to see my real granddaddy. I got to see my family, where my granddaddy could've been even greater but he never had no drawers that fit. All his drawers was too big. Uh-huh. Wait, but he never. Was you born in a man's title? No, I'm just saying, like some days you go over to my granddaddy house and he'll answer the door in his drawers. That's what granddaddies do. It was like, granddaddy, if your drawers was the right size, ain't no telling what you could've cheated. You just never had a real fair chance. I think all my granddaddies had baggy drawers. I think they only made boxes in one size back in the old days. These ain't even boxes. These was just drawers. I say, oh, here boy, here boy, here boy, here boy. I'm telling you like. He was like saggy ass, da-da-da-da. Yes, just a big drawer. He's gonna be great. These drawers were at least three sizes too big. I don't know. I'm from the city, I don't know my granddaddy. I ain't never met that nigga. I'm telling you, man, I was not raised around him. My daddy was. Look at how tough life, man. Man, listen, people think he all jokes. That nigga done been through some shit. He got some real gangsters or anything shooting. But that ain't, that's the beauty of being. You're gonna blow his cover. Oh, sorry. Nah, nah. You're a real one. Nah, you know, that's the beauty of being in this position. Like, to get to this is to escape all of that shit. Like, I just did a show in DC at the MGM. And I went back through my old neighborhood just to show, like, it's different now. Gentrified now. Whole foods over there? Oh, it's coming. I mean, it's a lot of white people waiting on it. But for me, it's like, I've escaped that environment. But I'm of the environment. When you really of it, you don't gotta walk around. Like, you don't have to walk around, like, in a tough, outweigh, or you get nothing. Proudly, man. Yeah, nah, nigga, I didn't beat the games, man. I'm like, I had to wake up every day and be outside without a choice. Nigga, what? Like, that's not something that, you know, I'm proud that I was able to get out of it. But I'm also not like, yeah, nigga, guess what I did before? Fuck all that. But the thing is, for me, getting to a position where we at now is like, I look back on coming into that slot or that diving board, like you said, with nothing. And like, really, me and this nigga, man, like, we came in together and he said some shit to me at our audition that our first workshop, when we was doing that last audition, that group audition that we did, that nigga came up and said something to me that rings true to this day. Something really shit ever. Like this nigga walked up to me because we knew each other prior. He was like, man, I don't know what these niggas great do. But we great, get on TV. And I've been telling you that them niggas been garbage since even before y'all hit me. That's what I've been saying. I didn't never change. Everyone. You know, you've been the same nigga since. Kobe Bryant of the game. Kobe Bryant. Fuck him. Put him on the court. This nigga don't like, he don't like none of the older niggas even. He's like, he's the grab, but that's why the niggas don't agree. What's the difference between new garbage and old garbage? The smell. Still garbage. The smell. The old garbage. The old garbage. Think worse. The old garbage and new garbage. Do you fuck with other than these two niggas right here? What do you mean other than these two? You don't need for two motherfuckers. I already proved that. People who have a lot of friends don't have none. You came up in this stand up game with a lot of niggas. You don't fuck with none of them? It's not that I don't fuck with them. But do you understand that these niggas look at what I do with my hard work and feel like I don't fuck with them? Cause you don't. No, it's not even that. It's they had the same opportunity to be these motherfuckers. But you know, y'all watched the other platforms and the niggas be coming up with all of these conspiracy theories on the comedy hypes and all of that. And it's like, whoever else got a podcast and you know, trying to emulate what y'all done built, it's like, there's a lot of people that feel like, yo, y'all the throne. Because they authentically don't fuck with each other. They not, you can't just get on camera. But this is what I'm saying, you can't just get on camera and pretend to be friends. People gonna see through that shit. Right. That's why they fuck with us. We don't always agree. They be with the shit sometimes and they don't be with the shit sometimes. Sometimes the shit I be with, they be like, those is your shit. That's real family shit. But that's from the environment that we come up out of, which, you know, being in wild and out. Like when we came in, nigga, what helped me? You had to find a family. Are you gonna be by your mom for this? To this day, I still do shit the same way I did when I came in in 2013. They got dumped off over here. Because there's too much shit going on in the environment for me to be comfortable. There's too many unnecessary conversations. Niggas is eating lunch with the wild and out girls acting like they don't know them your hoes. It's like, like, bruh, I don't, I don't, I don't, I never understood it. That made you choke, huh? That made you choke. You thought we weren't gonna bring it up, and it crushes him. I don't, I never got it. Like, I've never got it. Like, I've never understood it, bruh. Like, I've never understood that type of, you know what I mean? Like, I've always, I always had to find a niche to be comfortable because I don't, I don't do well in environments where I see shit going on. I'm different than him in the sense that I ain't got to say nothing. Right. I just see it and be like, that's crazy. And go, by the way, he gonna say something. This nigga live in a prayer. Like, this nigga, he be great, do the prayer. They be like, yeah man, y'all do a great stop line nigga. He was like, Lose. Hey man, it's Clayton English man. We in the middle of something. You know what? I mean, you probably wanna go to Miami. You might wanna go to Mexico somewhere real tropical. How you gonna talk to these ladies if you can't speak the Spanish? 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Because I want to give people opportunities, I want them to get on the diving board and get on the sword. Nick, what is the criteria these days? We have this conversation every year. Every year, fuck this nigga. Because you are known in the standards so far. You used to have to be good at something. This nigga came after y'all. No, it was him. Stop that shit. That nigga is amazing. He been in movies. Justina can read. Justina came after y'all. I can read. What the fuck? You can read. They got niggas now that can't even read. Nothing, Chico. No, they got some niggas that can't read. Hey, no kids. They're fucking raw, they're something raw. Man, I just heard them niggas read, I'm the weak. They can't read. I heard the niggas read. What do you do? What do you say? Oh. I already know what you're talking about. No, uh, uh, uh, for a move, paramount. For a move? Yeah, nah, he not lying. Bullshit. Not a lie. Yeah, he fucked paramount up. I'm talking about, he had to walk, he had to walk through paramount. Well, everybody can't read. Oh, it's all right. Shit, now. You can't read. I'm just, okay, I'm just so they can know. So they can stop asking me. What's the criteria these days? To be fearless. Fearless. You like you? Not like me, not like me, not like me. You gotta be, if you gonna succeed on Wildin' Out, you gotta be fearless. If you scared at any moment, you're gonna fail, you're gonna sink, you're gonna stumble off that motherfucking diving board. People think that shit is easy. You gotta be fearless. You make that shit look easy. And then because they come in with the fear, they chest out fear, as soon as there's crickets and they don't get no laughs, they get scared. And they start second guessing they shit. Cause they think this crowd is just gonna come in here and laugh at anything. These ain't fucking people who just trained to laugh. These ain't niggas who really watched this shit like they were watching it. They don't put that in the butt. They don't put that in the butt. I ain't got no laugh track. Nah. And then in the New York season, it'd be like, huh? Yo, niggas, yo, it'll shut the fuck up son. Yo, nigga, better than that nigga be. Word. You put me off. For real, snap. But that shit was fun though. I ain't gonna hold you. Back in the day, Brooklyn was out of the game. Well, we had the three level motherfuckers on the side. That was that stuff. That motherfucking green room might have been my favorite shit. That's what I was gonna say there. With the sprain in it. The sprain in it. Yeah, that was the one. My DJ booth in the middle of that motherfuckers. That shit was live. That shit was live, man. That was live. That A-1, the A-1, what the fuck is that New York one, man? The season, it was like, every show. It got too crazy. Niggas was coming from the club to the Wildin' Out after party. That's what I'm trying to say. Lying up. Niggas trying to get a cover charge to get into the motherfuckers after their green room. I forgot we were doing that. I forgot that's why I was so many people in there. That's the people who had wristbands. So we had people in the crowd coming back there fucking with us. I did not know that. I was like, whatever we doing, what this shit for? Hey, I gotta ask you this, Niggas. What's the reason? Like, cause you do a lot of shit and I'd be like, man, that nigga don't have to do that shit, but he really doing it. For example, now I'm talking about the good part now, like as far as the shit that you do. Like they didn't, you know, we done had to transition this particular season. We shooting. And we staying at a hotel, nigga. Damn near a motel. Yeah, but you be staying there. And it's like, like, bruh, why you do that shit? Like when we was on tour and we had to take showers at the Salvation Army. And you was like, yeah, nigga, we going to something like, bruh, it's just nigga in the CIA. Like, why did you take the showers with us at the Salvation Army? I was trying to keep it thorough, man. If y'all got to do it, I want to do it. Why I'm going to leave y'all, like I could be on my jet doing all that. Why I don't? I want to fuck with y'all. But see, that's what I'm saying, but is it just to be able to see what it looks like to struggle? Like, so you don't forget what it looks like. Let me, let me, what is that? Let me, let me, let me say it. See what the poor people are doing. Let me make sure I never lose that part of me. Cause we was, I mean, that tour bus seat, like they didn't even go get a full body massage. Get this dirt off of you. Nigga, we was having so much fucking fun. That shit was fun though, man. We was talking shit late at night. Played, done. Yeah, nigga, that shit was fun. Like, I, I'm going to be by myself in an NPS jet. Nigga, like, that ain't fun. I mean, it was fun. But I'm saying, you could have took us on the jet. That's, that's what I really was getting at. Like, how do we transition into seeing the other side of the glasses, dude? We, we'd have been on this side of the glasses. But yeah, I want to see the inside of the glasses. This nigga just going to wait till we get our own and meet us and say, Hey, what's up, baby? You got here, buddy. I just wanted to always rock with y'all and even the same shit like where we staying now. Like I could go waste all that money. I could go get a house, all that type of shit. But like, you with us, with the girls on the outside. I want it, it's time to get up to go to work. We all get up and go to work together. Like, the bed is a bed. But that, I mean, I, I, I give you that credit though, man, cause that's one of the things that I always recognize. Just me being the type of nigga that I am and knowing that, man, this nigga ain't got to be round niggas for real. This nigga really could be on some like, I should have seen so phony and boring though, man. Like, cause we all came across the niggas who really, you know, believe in their own smoke and they try to treat niggas different because of whatever reason. Like, who want to be around a nigga like this? I will say, it creates, it also creates a sense of like, you know, for me at least, I know I could speak for myself to where you like, man, this nigga fuck with me. But then it's a certain level that you be looking like, man, dude, how much do you fuck with me? Because you look around and see shit that you be like, man, nigga ain't never asked me to do none of this shit. Because you expose yourself to shit that you don't have to. So how do you balance that? You know what I'm saying? I always say solid, recognize solid. And then when you just lay out the platform, people can go get it where they want to get it. You know what I mean? Like, this nigga right here, man, you see like, he saw it and he's like, man, I'm gonna go get it. Movies, I'm gonna go get this hosting shit. I'm gonna go get this music shit. I'm gonna go massive, this stand up shit. Like it was all right there for him. And you see his work ethic, you know what I mean? Some people just, like you said, this nigga's purpose in life is to be better. Like, I think I want to be able to get back. In life metaphorically, not like selling kuchi. I didn't think we know what you're talking about. Selling kuchi of life. Yeah, I'm just saying, like this is, but you comfortable leaning back talking shit. You know what I mean? This nigga right here wanted all. You know what I mean? And I also see you too, cause I use you as an example. I'm like, bro, I'm watching you land in. I'm talking about literally like 20 minutes before we go on stage. And you gonna rock that bitch, then leave. You be like, what nigga? Oh, he gone. Oh yeah, in LA? I'm like, what the fuck was just him? It's just a clock. In LA already, but you gotta come back tomorrow cause we gotta shoot three more. How do you balance really being the busiest motherfucker I know? I'm talking about no cat. The busiest motherfucker I know, you're a father and you keep a smile on your face. How do you balance it all out? I just look at it as a blessing, man, when like I would pay to do this shit that I get paid to do. Like, so when you wake up and God said, like, all of this is yours, then I'm gonna go try to get it all. And I'm not gonna, like, obviously you gotta take care of yourself and your health and wellness first. But once we pass that, I'm out here cooking to the, so I can't cook no more. Keep cooking while the pot is hot type shit. Like, it's, to me, every idea is a great idea till we come up with the best idea. So whether, if you got something, he got something like, look nigga, let's cook up. Like, if I see an opportunity, somebody has to bag over there, it's an easy bag to go get. Like, I'm trying to be one of those cats that just understands how to diversify your portfolio on every single level. So whether it's entertainment business in front of the camera, behind the camera, I'm always gonna be constantly thinking, what's the next play? What's the next move? So, luckily, I'm still, I got that youthful energy so I can still go. Like, you said, I don't have to do it no more. I can be chilling on the island somewhere, but it's like, I'm always trying to figure out how to be innovative in what's the next wave. So, I can't keep cooking. What did that come from for you? The hustle mentality growing up with, you know, my pops, I mean, y'all see my pops and they got that nigga crazy. That nigga will stop you red now. They got a new idea and nobody knew it. And I just, I mean, I got it from him. I mean, he came from the streets to the pool pit to, you know, and then even, you know, just growing up around D-Boys and hustlers, niggas just trying to figure out how to get it. How do you keep from going crazy being a check, going from a child star to an adult star? A lot of your peers went crazy and got the fucking with the wrong shit. I don't think I was a child starter. That's the, I think to the world it probably was, but I lived a whole regular life. You know, I was in the projects, cutting hair, selling weed, like, you know, trying to figure it all out like everybody else. To what age, nigga? To what age? Selling weed, nigga. You know, Nickelodeon at 14, man. No, I wasn't. Nigga was grown, like, yeah. You just looked 14. Like, that's what I'm saying. You was grown. Nigga's been bossing weed from nigga. Do you own Nickelodeon? No, nigga. I was an executive there. I was the chairman for years, but that's what I'm saying. I mean, like, cause I don't ever be, like I said, I'm not trying to glorify this shit, but like, nigga, my stepdad was the biggest D-boy in the city. You know what I mean? So I came up under that shit and I was, that was the play. Like, if it wasn't in the game, it should be. He was selling more than weed. That's what I was doing in high school. I was talking about, but I was being groomed to be that next nigga, to kind of operate like that. And it could have went that way. And I had a lot of partners that did go that way. A lot of them niggas is still serving. So how did you get into it? How'd you get into it? And give us the day that Nick Canada didn't have to sell weed no more. And you ever do all that? Nigga, I'll tell you, this is God Dying is Truth, man. Like, it was on some Save My Life type shit. Like, my area in another area really was getting at it. And partners was just getting shot, dying. And I remember going, I remember I went to my grandpa. I'm literally scared for my life. Like, I don't think I'm gonna make it out of high school type shit. And, you know, God's Honest Truth, he gave me this book called Name It and Claim It by Dr. Fred Price. That was our pastor at Crenshaw Christensen. And he was like, if you keep speaking that, that's gonna happen to you. You start speaking life, then whatever you speak is gonna happen to you. Like, you gotta speak things into existence. And that book was called Name It and Claim It. That was probably the first book when I was about, you know, 15, 16 that I had ever really read if it starts being kept reading it over. And I literally, you know, whatever you desire, believe it when you pray it and you shall have it. Also, Mark 11, 23 type stuff. Really just living it. And I started speaking like, yo, I'm gonna be an entertainer, I'm gonna be a comedian, I'm gonna be a rapper. And I'm like, this is in high school. And I literally, why Homies was going through it. And I was like, it's starting to air. I couldn't even go no more. We couldn't go to the hall no more. We couldn't go to different football games because it was active. And I was like, yo, I gotta remove myself out of this environment. So I started catching rides two hours away to Hollywood, standing outside the comedy store, the improv, the live factory just with grown niggas. It was everybody from Chappelle to Pierre to Dwayne's. Like, I'm just a kid standing outside sleeping on Jamie Foxx couch. Like, just really just trying to figure out how not to go back to the hood. And when I did go back, I literally had to get back to school in the morning, do our niggas wouldn't believe me when they talk about the shit that I was doing. And I was just like, this is my vision. I'm gonna speak it. And really, I ended up graduating high school early. And I was on, I was writing for TV shows. I was the warmup on Nickelodeon. I started, at the time it was WB and all I was doing, all of that, getting holding deals. Jamie Foxx had a comedy festival down here called Laugh a Pelusa, deal out that joint. I was Bay Area Comedy Festival, rock that shit, won that shit, all of it. And I was fresh out of high school, you know what I mean? But I had escaped the life that I was like, and once I saw that, I was like, I'm gonna square up like a box of Apple Jackson, just really just whatever y'all say, I'm gonna focus. And so Nickelodeon came, I was like, yeah, I'll be a little kid for y'all, let's get it. But Laugh a Pelusa was some of the dope shit I ever got to be a part of. Cause it was just like, a whole week or just, all the comedians in the country just go, how about it, what's it in? I got my kids deal at the first Laugh a Pelusa. We would rock the uptown, we would do different arena. It was crazy. Everything in between, all the comedians from on the whole urban scene, man. Yeah, Chris Tucker had a club out here. He used to bring me down like, again, everybody who started out young would look out for the other young niggas. So they was like, I remember being a teenager. So I remember Chris Tucker flew me and Mike Epps out here to do his club and put us in the same room. I had to bunk with that crazy ass nigga, Mike. This nigga had all kinds of bitches. Tell them niggas. No, but that's the, those are my OGs, those dudes that show me how the game go. And that's, you know, obviously they was, he was young, Mike was young, like niggas. Like Chris was the nigga popping at the time. So like we was just comedians on the road and shit. So you ever had anybody, like, you know, little boy, you would try to little boy and then double back and meet you? Nigga, all the time, nigga, all the niggas that was all wildin' out in the early season. Oh, so you don't fuck with them? No, I love nigga. You don't fuck with nobody, see? Nigga, I don't. See, he know, are you the same kind of nigga? I was a little boy. See these shit, chup? Nigga, Spanky and all the niggas and shit, Joe Blunt, all of them, Thomas Wardade, they was older, they used to live in the jungles in L.A. And I would come up and I'd have to sleep on they floor. You know what I mean? Spankin' them floors? Yeah, like, yeah. So it, shit, like niggas, I was the little homie. You know what I mean? Shots out to, you know, Chris Spencer and you know, all nigga, Alex Thomas, those niggas I was looking up to, you know, they still in the game strong now, but it's like, you know, when you do this comedy shit, it's a whole different culture. Yeah, but the reason I ask is because how did you handle, how did you handle it? What's the most important part of the equation that makes you say, I ain't gonna do it negative way I could? Nah, because I mean, what do you really get out of that? You know, that's low frequency shit, you know what I mean? To me, I almost, niggas know what I got. Like, you get to a point, I ain't got, I'm gonna stunt on some niggas that is doing bad, like, that ain't, like, that ain't, he's like, what would you do? I wanna see niggas win, like, especially a lot of the people I came up with, I wanna see them shine, like, especially the certified real ones, like, you know, that nigga, Scratchel gonna be my nigga for life, just because, that nigga, when I was a kid, that nigga, not only was he the big homie on stage, that nigga was the protector of all of us, just moving around, if something, I mean, I seen this nigga in Compton, knock a nigga out, in a heckler, out, and set the nigga right there, knocked down, I don't have to tell the rest of you, you had to hear his whole set, sweet. No. Like, put him up, in his chair, sweet. The nigga kept talking, like, dude, I'm just trying, I just got out, like, I ain't, I'm just trying to do this comedy, and kept up, nigga, Scratchel, boop, boop, boop, picked the nigga up, said, nigga, he said, like, I said, I'll put up with him, Jesus. Nah, but I'm just saying, cats like that, when you come around, and you're like, so, any project I'ma do, I'll put that in here, and move to school, dance, or, you know, whatever, wild and out, creative, podcast, whatever I could do to help cats, that have been with me since I was 15 years old, like, and that's who, you know, whoever it is, from, like I said, Spanky, Scratchel, to whoever else that, we was riding with the niggas, obviously that we already know is, you know, making hella money now, from the niggas, from Kevin Hart, to Cat Williams, it was like, we came up together. Hey, you and this niggas stayed pranking each others. Yeah, I got a hold of that damn prank show. They done gave us millions of dollars to prank niggas now, we good, like, we gon' have some real fun. That was, we used to come out of our own pockets to prank each other, now we got budget. We gon' start sending niggas to the moon, shit. I'm gonna say, huh. Niggas thought they was on spirit, and sent that niggas to Jupiter. Don't bite me. I'm good, Slim, I don't do meaty like you are. Do you buy the niggas a lot? Nah, man, don't break me, man. I said, cause he a asshole, bro, he'll do us fucked up, he'll be like, yeah, Chico, I'm finally gon' put you in that movie. You and Carlos is finally gon' be in the movie. We show up to set niggas and Scratchel there with some boxing gloves on. Man, yeah, I wanna see if he can make it. There's a rolling tape. There's a rolling, like, they with the five, man. With the pop, man. He like, put the skates on, Slim. Put the skates up, cause I'm not fighting with the skates on, Slim. Yeah, I mean, but that type of shit though, you know what I mean? When you get to that point, like, what is the shit that make you wanna keep creating outside of the money? Like, is it legacy? Some shit you can have fun at, you know? Like I said, that's why me and Kev do what we do. That's something, I wouldn't do Wildin' Out if that shit wasn't fun. No. Like, we- Has it ever not been fun? Nah, I think I probably went through some stages and shit where I was just like, people was frustrating me because they didn't allow me to take my brand where I wanted to. But, you know, we got a lot of them people out the way. So like, you know, again, we jump in there, we knock that shit out. We do three episodes in one day and have fun. If you ain't having fun, you shouldn't be there. And that's just, I'll tell you that from, you know, from the top to the bottom, from the executives to catering. Like, look, we about love, peace, and having a good time. If you want some other shit, then this ain't for you. I overheard you on one podcast and you were talking, you just saying about the ups and downs about the beingness and whatever. Right. And a lot of people will assume that a month before I took it. Oh, yeah, I had to show them off. Yeah, a month before I took it. Good looking. A lot of people- It's got that motherfucking jacket I gave you. I might ask for that motherfucking jacket. I ain't got it no more. Conceited got it. Oh, oh, y'all think it's time to- You got it, you got it. You got it. You got it worth about 50. Well, he got it now. So don't ask me about the shit. Nigga, I don't have it at all. Me and Conceited, me and Conceited. I asked the thing like, bruh, you gotta understand, you didn't, it took us, well, I know for me, it ain't that I didn't want that type of shit back then. It was just on Jupiter, nigga. So we had to get to the point where we could afford them outfits you was wearing. But I don't give a fuck how much money I get. I'm stealing that shit from you, nigga. I don't give, because I know you don't need it. And this jacket was like 50. I know it didn't come out of your pocket. Let me get that money. I ain't never tell you, but when he gave me the jacket, the lady that worked with a sweet lady, lover, she's a nice lady. Always nice to me, always Chico. I love you so much. Man, that nigga gave me that jacket. She came around the corner like she was gray. See about me. Hey, what's up with the jacket at? I'm like, what jacket, man? What you talking about? She was like, did Nick give you the jacket? Nigga, she walked me over there like a principal. No, it's some custom Louis shit. Yeah, she walked me there. Like, did you say he could have this? He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I said he could have it. I was like, yeah, I could have it. Me and this nigga, Chuck, this nigga, Chuck, did the Frisco shit on me. I ain't, you know what I mean? Nigga, Nick say, baby, he was gonna give some shoes away. That nigga, Chuck, I'm about to go get the shoes. He pulled me. Hey, nigga, hey, bro, how much of this shit you didn't got, nigga? How much of this shit you didn't got, bro? Like for real, bro, let's have enough of nigga eat over the shoe. Nigga's all wear the same. Man, Chuck be calling you about shit like that. Chuck be calling me about crazy shit. No, he ain't calling me. Nigga asked me on the show how many bitches Nick gave me. I said, nigga, you giving this nigga too much credit. Chuck called me and said, yo, yo, what you say about Nick? I said, nigga, watch the rest of the clip. He called me back. He was like, all right. Nigga ain't gave me no bitches. I got my own bitches now, nigga. Have at it. I won't credit for having my own bitches. Thank you. Clear that shit up. Don't be calling me, Chuck. I ain't never said nothing fucked up about Nick. That I wouldn't say in front of him. He didn't know that. Nah, I was saying I had that scene in the park as well. No, I wouldn't say nothing fucked up about him behind his back. I'ma say it to him first. Then I say it. Everything that come out of this nigga's mouth is fucked up. Thank you. He knows I'm a terrible person. We have a great relationship. People are always asking me about this nigga. He is here. I'm happy to ask him about all this crazy shit. I've been knowing Nick when he had two kids. Just a jump, but nah, I was asking. I seen the podcast where you was talking about the way the elevation of the game and they can go up and down. A lot of people, you know, you started, you say you look young, but everybody swore you was a kid star. It was really crazy. But you been in the game damn near 30 years, nigga. Damn, nigga. He didn't even talk about it. Nigga, that's a long time. That's it. He's gonna stand up 30 years. I started doing stand up and it was like 12, 11, 12 years old. You thought it was you in the game, but I remember you saying that when you did drum live. Yeah. You was like, I only had 60,000 miles in my pocket when they called. You was like, shit. I might not even have that because that's what they paid me to do drum live. That's what they paid you to do drum live. You did drum live. You did drum live. I didn't really, I mean, it was check to check. But at that time, drum live was my biggest check. I mean, I was 60. Speak on that, nigga. Check to check in the industry. It's household name and motherfuckers know you. Right. But we live in check to check. I mean, that's just like everybody's job. And you're like, I was doing, I was probably making more money doing stand up. Then I was getting off a TV at that time. You know what I mean? Because, you know, early days of Nickelodeon, they weren't paying. That's why I was writing too. I was trying to write and do all of that because there was more checks there. I do the warm up, show up, grab that 500. Like I was just trying to hustle. I was dancing on Soul Train. Stop, man. That nigga is sweating. Me and Atheon. I'm about to say Atheon talking. Bro, at the Comedy Club that I started and they got a picture of Atheon, I fuck with that nigga about every time I see him. I'm like, yeah. I'm talking about the alien Jones. I was like, Paul Tree. Bro, you ever worked with that nigga that looked just like you? That nigga, the other nigga. That nigga that looked just like you, nigga. Oh, I know what you talking about. That nigga was in Roe Bown. The nigga was in Westwood? Nigga, we was in Roe Bown together. I'm saying on the other shit. That was the other shit y'all did. Yeah. I mean, that was my partner for shit. Like we used to tell these, we was brothers when we was coming up in auditions and shit like that. That nigga was, you talking about Westwood Jonathan. Bro, I guess that's it, man. He had city guys. He had to show these to come on Saturday mornings on NBC. So that nigga was popping. Yeah, yeah. That was his little bro. So that nigga was, you know, that nigga was in Panther. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like that shit, like he was in a classic film and all of that shit. So we, I looked up to that nigga and that's just, you know, it's one of the moves where when you out in Hollywood, like I had a different gift because I was auditioning and doing music and shit, but stand up was what I was known for. So I didn't even really have to audition a lot. I'd be like, yo, send the casting director, send the director to improv that night into the comedy store. And they'd be like, yo, this is what I'm fucking getting off. And so I would skip over a lot of shit, but like, you know, like, I mean, y'all haven't heard the story, nigga, every young black kid in music and in Hollywood audition for drum line. Like I had to go in that motherfucker about eight different times and I never booked no shit off of drum, like auditions before. So I'm like, I knew I was musical. So I knew how to move around. And, you know, luckily the director, Charles Stone, who was so cold, that nigga directed drum line and paid him full. You know what I mean? It was his first two movies. But before that, he was just a dope music, you know, video commercial director. And he saw something in me, man. And it's just like out of thousands of niggas. Like, and you, I mean, people tell you story every year. You're here to silk the shocker, talking about it, T.I., everybody. Like, nigga, when I tell you- Silk the shocker? Yeah, everybody, nigga. Everybody auditioned for that shit. The niggas from TV shows, movies. Everybody was auditioning for that shit. Silk the motherfucking shocker in their tummage. Man, none of my ones seen no guy with a damn silk the shocker playing on drum. That nigga from Louisiana. You know he grew up with instruments and drums and shit. If not drum line, what would you say, what was the moment for you? It was like, aw, shit, I made it. I agree with you. I still don't feel like that. I don't feel like that. Dead ass. Like, nigga, I'm in all your niggas. Like, I'm constantly hustling. I know you hustling. We talking about when the shit got different, when the check got different. Well, I could tell you like the biggest check, but even in like. I don't want no big check. But even when that shit would happen, it'd be gone so quick. Why? It's the biggest check, I don't feel like it's anything. It's the biggest check, I don't feel like it's anything. I'm telling you with the big check, no, I don't want to hear that shit. What the guy? Because if you're gonna tell me shit, I'm like, yeah, damn. I know it's out there. But it's like, when did that shit change though? Like, we all knew why it did not change. It helped change. Well, see, no, but you gotta remember what we are for y'all. For y'all. No, but while it out wasn't a success when it first dropped out. Then it was like, again, they was excited about punk and all of that shit. And I was just like, you know, we was just, we was doing well, but we was waiting, are they gonna pick us up? And they get, while it out season, the first season was six episodes. And we just wanted to get to season two dog. And then they gave us eight. We thought we was on eight. And then from there, it just slowly, so even then, like, while I wasn't a success at first, you look back and be like, shit, we've been doing this shit two decades, but even drumline wasn't a success. Like, that shit opened moderately. It did well, but they didn't market it. They didn't promote it. They didn't have no billboards, barely, like commercials was only on BET. But the culture fucked with it and turned it into the classic. Like, so everything, like, I've never had that where a whole system or a whole studio believes in you. Like, shit, when you see, like, these actors today, like Shots Out to Bro, Michael B. Jordan, you go, that nigga's on buildings and built, like, I mean, and it's dope, like, whether it's from Creed to Black Panther or, you know what I mean? Like, there's a different, there's certain people that a whole studio would get behind. You're like, we want to turn this person into a movie star. You want to turn this person into a television star. You'll get like a Donald Glover and a whole network will get behind them and motherfuckers will be at the Emmys and all that shit. Like, that's because the system fucked with them. I'm outside the system. Everything I did, all my success, I had to work for. Ain't nobody ever believed in me. And that's just the shit. And that's why I believe in niggas like y'all because I know that pain. I know that pain. Where don't nobody support you for like you out there by yourself. So now at least I know how to build my own shit. So let me teach niggas the game so they can build their own shit. So they don't have to have all of their self-esteem built off of a system that never fucked with them in the first place. In fact, so you got that side. You got, you got, you got, you got that side of it. What the fuck is this shit? You got that side of it, right? That side that you dealing with on the corporate side and the Hollywood side. And then you got the other side of it, the shit that niggas come up to us and be like, man, Nick Corny for real. Like, make a real nigga. You know what I mean? Listen. Oh yeah, listen. Yeah, all the way. Yeah, we standing there like. Nick, one more time. He's pissing me off. Yeah, all the way. Nick, I ain't hear my nigga. He ain't get it. Yeah, all the way. But we, let's go talk. Let's go fucking talk, man. He go right up high and be like. Yo, he was shooting some shit. Yeah, we was shooting some shit in Times Square. But Buddy was just, he was talking. You know what I mean? But like, you dealing with that on that side, but you've never seen it. I don't know what the fuck y'all mean. I'm Corny, nigga. I'm over here dealing with this shit. You bitch ass niggas got me fucked up. Like, why haven't you felt the need to ever address that part? You address a lot of shit. You address some shit that you shouldn't address. But you never addressed that. Cause that shit, like, cause it don't bother me. Like, that's like, it don't really like, I like when niggas call me Corny nigga. That's, that's my motherfucking like decoy. I'll take that all day. Like, I don't, I want you to underestimate. I want you to think shit is sweet. So cause then now I got the upper hand, whatever the situation is. But we know you and we know that this shit is, that shit ain't even, it ain't even, it don't even apply to the gangster shit. We be seeing you doing like, man, these motherfuckers new. It's beauty. I don't blow my cover. Like, I wanna be, I'm Corny. Yes, that's it. It is what it is. And then it's Markable. Niggas, it's Markable. I always say, Niggas, the Corny is, you know, that's the misunderstanding. I seem to nigga do some shit. That's it, that's the shit. Like, chicks really like Corny motherfuckers. If you, they want you to make them laugh. Don't be on here giving relationship, everybody. I ain't giving no advice. You get terrible, I ain't giving no advice. You give terrible advice. I'm asking them questions. I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, the one you giving terrible advice on wearing bright orange hoodies and shit on. That's the morning show. That's why I've been wearing these shit on. You starting off the morning giving out bad advice. You know, at first I ain't never gave a nigga advice ever in life, nigga. I don't know. You did tell him nigga, get a lawyer. When you never liked what we were getting paid, you were like, y'all need to get a lawyer and walk off. I'm like, okay. Exactly what that nigga told me. But the first time he didn't need to walk off, the niggas said, y'all niggas get a lawyer and went and laid at his bunk on the bus. And he was like, is this nigga just gonna get in the bunk? After telling us, you don't like that. Well, y'all niggas went and got lawyers. Can you see what them? But I don't give advice on camera is what I'm saying. Right here. So what would you say is hard? It's okay. As a man with many gifts, many talents, I understand. Got the hosting. Got the comedy. Got creative content. Got music, my brother. Movies. Movies. What would you say was the hardest to grab? The hardest to achieve? I know you're saying you're still open to it. Yeah, I mean like, I think the shit that, obviously we all know like the shit that's probably the most frustrating because the music game is not a real game. It's not based off of talent. So niggas don't sit around and know I play seven instruments and make all the beats on while and out there. It's just like, you gotta have a story, a trajectory. I mean, you go through the same shit. All y'all go through the same shit. Y'all niggas is gifted, but they wanna hear about the nigga that was trapping or the nigga that just got out. It's like they don't see you. That's how it works. Yeah, so it's like, which is cool because there's something to it because niggas like authentic. They like real shit. They like a nigga. Like that's why today the biggest D-boy in the hood can become the biggest rapper in the world because oh, this nigga is certified and they get respect in this field. So all we gotta do is put this nigga together with some rhyming words and a dope beat. And he outta here. So a nigga who's not trying to do that but can come up in the church and sit on the organ and sit on the drums and all of that stuff, those usually don't be the dudes that succeed in that space. So we still on the grind and you know, even like I done put, you know, multi-platinum artists on. I done built careers but I'm never wanting to gloat to be like oh, I wrote that song or I did this or like I just, but the music game is always gonna be a challenge. One, it's a young man's game. So to be able to stay current and really, again, y'all niggas keep me hot. You know what I mean? The next generation of artists that I'm looking to find, the new show I got, Future Superstars, I'm finding teenagers. I'm finding and I learned that game from the Quinty Jones and the L.A. Reed and all that. And that shit been done. Go find some old niggas who never got a chance. They too old. I did that on America's Got Talent. No, I fucked that. I did that already. Them Susan Boyks was the shit man. I remember finding that old nigga in that suck the way he'll be singing, Tim Cook. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of them early seasons of Wildin' Out, you was bringing her around, like H-E-R, her? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember Lil Gabby. Yeah, like you was like, this was, this is, you know, my new artist or somebody I'm working with at the time. And every time I see her, I be thinking, I'm trippin', I'm like, I think that was dick. That's how it is. I put her on Nickelodeon. I directed and produced a movie for Nickelodeon that had her in it, Soulja Boy, Justin Bieber, shit. Like it was, I've always had a knack to know who's gonna be next in the young talent space. So, you know, it's one of those things where we continue in that vibe, but I think now I'ma probably stick my chest out a little bit more and be like, yo, I'll produce that record, or I'll put that person on the side of me. You gotta do it a little bit more. I never wanted to though, because I always like to play it back. The news industry, they know, but then they be like, if they know, no, you was behind it. They like, oh, because in the music game, it's so many different platforms and so many different titles and jobs. People be thinking, you gotta be the motherfucker that's holding the mic to sing, but no, I can put the shit, yep. And then sometimes it might be better that people don't know because they know you did it and just don't act like they don't like it just because they know you did it. You know what I mean? Motherfucker act like, oh, he did it, oh, I don't even wanna hear it now because I know I ain't gonna like it. But if you don't wanna put your name on it, then a nigga. Yeah, that's why I have my, like even when I used to produce records for Mariah and shit, I didn't want people to know, so I had an alien. Oh, shit, put it out there, my boy. So it was the Heatmizer. So it was like, I was in my family. Man, all the names, you could have been my, the Heatmizer. When you know it, it was the fucking Heatmizer. I see you a young nigga, you don't know the Heatmizer. Oh, he about the legs on me. Yeah, but please, I, see, here you go. It was this old ass show back in the day where the niggas used to get high, too, and watch the shit. It was like the black version of like motherfucking Sesame Street and shit. And these niggas used to, it was like HR Puffin stuff and all that shit. Or no, and it was the Heatmizer, if you remember, then they also made the shit. The Christmas, the motherfucking Rudolph, the Red Nosed reindeer shit, and it was like the nigga that was ice cold. And then it was the other nigga with the flame hair. That nigga was the Heatmizer. All the niggas were Heatmizer. Damn, tell me, nigga, that shit was fire. So what beat did the Heatmizer, what's the hottest beat that the Heatmizer made for Mariah Carey? That shit that just went viral again. It's a rap. Well, you know what you should have produced. I'll put Mary J. Blige on the remix of that mother's song. Well, if you would have produced that damn Christmas song. Oh, and the guy was fucking 13 when that Christmas came out. Now, that was great. Now, we didn't made so many jokes over the years about all of the shit that you got going on because you're such a public person. I mean, you can't, I don't know why you just said they don't nobody believe in you, but somehow the universe just seems to always have you in front of some shit. God got my back. The universe finds a way to put you in front of the world and everything you say and do is right there for the to be consumed by the public. So why do you choose to, like as we've known you, you've grown into me, at least in my eyes, you started to like let people in the shit that you used to, that you had to be in this space to be able to see. Now you just giving quotes about shit. And I'm like, ain't no way that nigga said that out loud, man. But where does that come from? Just fatigue of giving a fuck? I mean, I think I always just been the same nigga, Mike. It just, I think like you said, if the spotlight is on me, I'm gonna keep it a stack. You asked me a question. I'm gonna answer it to the best of my ability and truthfully. Now you're gonna be trolling sometime though. But something, yeah, now. Yeah, except what I'm saying now. Like, what is the change? Because it's like, I'm in this business. When I'm building brands and shit like that, I know if I say a certain shit, it's gonna go viral and say, you know, you gotta manipulate the media before the media manipulates you, you know what I mean? So you gotta know how to maneuver in these spaces. And also, I gotta be the front runner in a lot of this shit. So sometimes I gotta step out there and say some shit that other things is scared to say or feel like, yo, whatever consequences come with it, I can handle it, you know what I mean? Or another, I don't fucking wanna say some shit and that career be gone. So, you know, it's really about, you know, truly living that freedom of speech shit, especially when they know your core is centered where you're coming from an authentic place. You're coming from a place where you just really wanna see people shine and see people ring. Speaking of media manipulation and, you know, we ain't never talked about this or whatever. All that shit went down and, you know what I'm saying? And we was fired. I think it was fired. We was fired. It was your fucking fault. We was fired. During the pandemic, bro. I ain't gon' tip to around it. During the pandemic, bro. During the pandemic, bro. I was talking about it, I got that. I mean, during the pandemic. He definitely didn't fuck it up, man. Well, how did you feel when, because nobody was, I ain't never got off no money. It was an interview and they asked me. Right, right. And for you, if they wanted to replace me, how much money was it gonna take you to get on the show? And I'm like, I ain't taking shit. They asked you to get off the breakfast club. Yeah, I ain't taking shit. I ain't ever told you on camera, nigga, I love you for that, too. That's real shit. I appreciate it. You know, I wouldn't take the money. Yeah, we know that. I would've left your name on the shit. Nick Cannon presents Carlos Miller presenting the shit that he presented. Ha ha ha ha. Take a hand. You know, I would've took the money. No, we would've. I like that, man. I just want to know, like, when that shit popped up, because you're still a regular nigga. Right, right. Outside of all the shit that you were accomplishing. Right. Because we do so much. We ain't got emotions. Facts. And we ain't got feelings. So when that shit popped up, and you heard my response, what was your initial reaction? Well, you were like, God damn. I love you for that shit, but also because I was at a time, I had told them because I wasn't coming back. Like, it's funny because a lot of, okay, if you remember how it actually played out. Oh, I remember. I remember I was at the house. I'd never watched Wilder Count. They got mad. And, you know, they said, you know, and I had been in this situation before with NBC and everything to where the people that the higher ups said, we have to teach you a lesson. Right. And literally, behind closed doors, they said, we have to make an example out of it. Because, you know, other people were in our space and I was talking reckless. Right, yeah. And it got back to me. I was like, they want to make an example out of me. Like, what is that supposed to mean? Right. Like, if that ain't the most offensive and butt-breaking slave master shit if I ever, someone's, you gonna hang me out in front of all the niggas and make an example out of me? Right. And so, you know, then you got to start backtracking. You know, and so then they offered it back to me. Immediately. Like, how can we figure this out? And there was a lot of amazing people that, you know, that I worked with for years. That's what I said. You can't ever even blame an individual when you're talking about corporations. Because there's boards, there's shareholders. You know what I mean? People that have been putting money into it for a long time. And the majority of the people understood, you know, niggas family, even at this company, since he was a teenager. And there were some people that literally, like, we got to make an example out of him. So by the time we got there, I was like, fuck that brand, fuck that matter fact. This is my brand. I've owned it for the majority of the time. And I want this, I want that. We did the evaluations. We knew how many billions it was worth. Like, we was ready to go to war. And I was like, if I never stepped foot back on that motherfucking stage again, I was done with Wilder now. Cause I was just like, one, I had a whole, I was getting more money at other networks. Fox had my back, solid, you know what I'm being like? You know what I'm talking about, Fox, yeah. So it was like, I'm good. And like, I was cool. Like, you know, I walked away from NBC. I walked away from millions, a couple of years earlier than that. And then doubled up and got the number one show on Fox, believing in myself. So I was like, I'm gonna just do that shit again. And like, I was like, so whatever they want. And then when I heard Jop, we did an interview and a couple other people on shit, I was like, damn, it's a lot more people that love this brand and eating off this brand and providing for their families with this brand. So I was like, I'll come back and do it for them. I was 21, 20 years old, right? So for me with that kind of money, still living in the projects, we had to figure it out. What's happening, Phoenix? Where the fuck did all these black people come from in Phoenix? Where y'all been? What's happening? And I'm not speaking for every man. And if I make it to be making 200 million, nigga, I can make 200,000. I feel like I spoke to the fuck any bitch I want. So if Zion, if you want to do that, live your life. What's up, y'all? It's your girl, Lex P. And it's your girl, Dray and Nicole. And you are tuned in to another episode. Show these little tricks. Now they by how I done took y'all everywhere. Now come on over. All them vines and shit, mold days and shit. What we got right here? This granddaddy, man, this is what I got for my 40th. I ain't do nothing to it. Usually I put 40s on everything I got. I ain't do nothing to this, but put some music in there. You know what I'm saying? Did you do the do on it? Did you do the booty cat? Did you do the booty? Ooh, you was hitting on that joint? Yeah, 100% give him a booty, ate all that. A guy, damn, okay? That's living a life. When you stand on a blow-up mattress and you can get a girl lick your ass, eat your ass, you're a man, you're cold-blooded. Hey. No, but shit, nigga, be broken in this, man. Think about it. You ever been so broke, you just feel like you about to pass away sometime soon? You be like, I know God ain't got me out here living like this. Barry and native, you understand me? You got this monkey off your back, you understand me? If you ain't never broke a female with no chicken. Now, it's nothing that you know men should glorify and be proud of, but you know, it's just culture. I'll come back. We wasn't coming back, man. We said that live, like, it was not coming back and doing that shit without that name. Wish I woulda did Jason Derulo present. I put that thing in the back of your head. Got that one pretty much. Jason Derulo presents while in the Rulo. Nah, hell nah. They remember that to me as a Ryan Seacrest present. Yeah, a Ryan Seacrest present, wasn't that? That was so crazy, man. ASAP put that out there with like, let's just try to put a white face on it to see how they were right. Oh my God, Larry. We was like, what? Nah, but nigga. We're gonna beat the nigga who created it up, you trippin'. Nah, nah, that. But that's, I mean, that's what it was. I saw so many other, you know how many families we provide for were wildin' out? You know what I mean? I know one in particular. Mine, motherfuckers. I don't know. But that's what I'm sayin'. So it's like, I came back because I wanted to do it for everybody else. And even now, that's why we, you know, try to give other people, we, the funny thing that you say like, behind closed doors in the business, meetings and stuff, because as you see, there's a lot of stuff goin' on, the mergers in this company, buying this company, and this, so I know how much value Wildin' Out has. I know the digital numbers. I know the ticket sales when we doin' the live nation tours. So, and a lot of times they try to keep us in the dark. They don't want you to know your value. So I know the value, so I'm like, yo, Wildin' Out should be its own network. We produced enough content, enough stars. We goin' towards 500 episodes. So just based off of that alone, you know how much value is it just in that IP alone? Nigga, like you said, look what friends is worth. Look what Seinfeld is worth. Nigga, this ain't got half the amount of episodes we got. You know what I mean? The thing that you think is a success, look at what we've done over the years. Look at all the millionaires we done made and produced. So when you know the value of something, even when they try to act like it ain't value, oh, we don't know, oh, we're gonna move you to this network. Ah, you can play the games if you want to, give it back, watch what I do with it. And that's where they don't want us to know how much power is in it, but the power is in us. That's why when y'all with y'all build with 85 South, it's like keep goin' cause you quietly showing them bigger studios and networks that you don't need them. That your fans gonna come with you wherever you go. It's great to see y'all on TV, but they also gonna follow you over here and they gonna make sure they gonna come see you in a city. They gonna wear your merch. And that's the stuff, that's magic in a bottle. You can't get that every day. That comes with a lot of responsibility though. I think that's the part that people don't talk about. Like, cause I know like in the space of Wild'n Out, we didn't been through trends, you didn't been Nick Cannon the whole time, but we didn't debate, ain't nobody know who Chico Bean was in season five or you know, like Carlos Miller to where we are now. You know what I'm sayin'? So I've seen when the environment be a certain way and then you walk in the room and everybody's changed. Everybody started doin' somethin' different. And everybody, how do you navigate that? Because when you had that type of power and you walk in the room and everybody was doin' what they maybe wanted to be doin' and then you walk in and they start doin' some other shit that's in front of you, like how do you know who's dead? How do you navigate people in that regard? Cause you been seein' them since the Jeep. I mean, it's one of them things, man. You gotta, it's chess. You gotta let them, they gonna expose themselves. They gonna move how they wanna move. And some people gonna show you how solid they are. And you just gravitate towards that. You know what I mean? Like, if everybody is puttin' on their best representative and ultimately you come across a nigga like this who no matter what room he in, he gonna always be the same. Even when it's inappropriate. They gonna be cussin' out the motherfuckin' cameraman and the tech. But they love me. They fuckin', they wanna hear this shit. Yeah, but then isn't it you who, where we all thinkin' the same thing, but I play the game a little bit more. I know how to, I'm gonna strategically tell you the same shit he tellin' you, but I'm gonna do it in a way to where you feel like it's at least politically correct. And then at the same time, now I'm at a stage where I ain't even gotta say shit like you sayin'. See? Like now, my presence speaks for itself. So when I walk in the room, the aura is gonna make you either straighten up or have to back off because it's like, oh yeah, he probably really don't fuck with me because I'm on some bullshit and he gets censored. So like that's, like spiritually that's where I've been tryin' to, you know, get to, to where now I ain't even gotta say shit. I just walk in the room and people know what it is. Yeah. Can we set the record straight, man? Right here on motherfuckin', I can't be that high. He's scared of weed. I'll be too high sometimes. Set the record straight. Right here, right now, face to face for the motherfuckin' world, man. Cause I'm sick of this shit. I'm tired of asking this goddamn question. You did not fire Carlos. Nah, you don't even tell, y'all wanna tell the truth? Yeah. Yeah. We been, yeah. Tell the truth. Tell the truth. Yeah, I gotta be watchin' and be like, yeah, do it. I don't get the question. Before you answer, I speak from the, I've never been fired. Right. We have been done in a way to where it's like, damn. Like, what has a nigga been doing on these script? Like, I'm not a nigga. Tell the truth. Tell the truth. Tell the truth. I wanna know the truth. I'm not the nigga. I'm not the nigga. You know my person. I'm not the nigga to be like, nigga, run the tape back and let me fucked up. But they put you in a position where it's like, nigga, is that what I get? Do I gotta show up and be the nigga that I can be and be ignorant to make a motherfuckin' realize it? Or do I just have to say my feeling, sir? Because when you know that you put this shit down in a certain way and a motherfuckin' just be like, well, we'll see. You'll see what? And we be like, nigga, is, because you remember when Los was gone, we both had conversations like, nigga, this shit feels strange, nigga. Hey, we came to niggas. To you, like, bruh, nah, like, whatever we gotta do to get this nigga back here because the environment ain't the same. Like, who do that? Who the fuck is the person or the people that be like, fuck us like that? Man, I told y'all for the game, I'm glad y'all even already laid it out there because y'all already talked about the origin in this conversation already. When we was on that motherfuckin' tour bus, and I told y'all, nigga, go get lawyers. That's exactly where that shit start. Don't let nobody tell you anything different. This whole motherfuckin' world is ran by attorneys. Like, go home and watch the motherfuckin' devil's advocate. Are y'all already at home? Watch that shit without the chain ho. Like, when you, the people who's speaking at legalese and talking that shit, they the ones that run all of this shit. And if you got a good, solid lawyer rocking with you that ain't in the pockets of the other motherfuckers, because I swear to you, even your lawyers can be playing both sides. Be on some snake shit because they've been cool with the corporate lawyers and all them people since back in law school. And they all under the same entity. So they all got the same hopes and beliefs and all of that shit. So that's the groundwork. So I'm gonna tell y'all what I have to do with every single season. Every single season they tell me I gotta cut the budget. And I figure out how to ways to maneuver because again, they don't wanna nigga know his value. Even though our shit's steady rising, they gon' try to find something they gon' tell me, well, you know your 3 AM shows aren't really rating as much as well. Fuck about that. We know what the numbers is doing online. So again, we let them give us, they give us a number. And again, motherfuckers' jobs to keep telling you a lower number. So, and that's every season. So the goal is, they always wanna seem like they got more power. And as I said, there's a lot of people who ain't there no more, who were in positions of power that would say stuff that like everybody's replaceable. You know what I mean? And just, you're like, all right, well, that ain't the brand I'm rocking with. But I understand what you're saying because of what we built. Nobody's bigger than a brand. We really trying to get to it. So has this loud outspoken motherfucking has always been from day one. Somebody hands off. He probably said, I don't even know. Like again, I don't know, but he didn't have too many friends in higher places to say, but he looked like somebody that was, as they considered a troublemaker. And y'all remember, there's been incidents where people would get- Incidents? Nah, I'm not just saying you, but there would be certain, we'd have to have conversations with HR because we might've said something about a certain community. We might've said something, a joke or something that made someone uncomfortable. And they went and complained about the, again, smoking and whatever. It's always, if you get, just like at any job, if somebody writes you up to me and tell me, now you won't notice. They paying attention and you get the, you get the jacket of a rival rouser, a troublemaker. That's just, and you know, we all been there, but he was probably one of the more louder ones. So when he came up, and again- Man. We gonna keep it a stack. Keep it a stack. When everybody, at no point that anybody say, we don't want Carlos, we don't want you. We all have representation. And when the way it got back to me and a couple of other executives is, you know, when it's time to renegotiate for your deal, Carlos, rightly so, was like, Carlos don't want that deal. Carlos want money, Carlos want it. Like, as his represent- All of our representatives have shown us. And even based off of how we sit here right now, they value all of us differently. I'm the only one, I get to see everything. But you know, even at the time, they give, he got holding deals, he doing other shows, he doing MTV moves. So they value DC differently. So they'll say, well, as long as we got DC, we're good. And it's like, but, you know, we all want to be good. And then it's like, so then I get put in a weird position and like, but I don't do the bullshit. I want everybody back. Even the niggas Carlos don't like, I want everybody good. Because if that's, I know my budget is larger. And I can move it around. I get niggas more episodes. Cause if I say, cause like right now our cast members, they try to get me down to six on six with the team captain. So it's really included myself as seven on seven. Y'all remember, there's been seasons, there's been. 13 on 13. Because I was like, I want to make, I can maneuver it around as much as I want to. So we're never like, all right, well, we're going to send everybody's deals out. And we're going to see who comes back. You know, it should even happen this season when niggas don't come talking back the way they like it. Oh, he doesn't want to do it anymore. And that's how I got it. There's like Carlos isn't signing his deal. And I'm like, and I'm in the same position as y'all niggas. Nigga almost didn't come down to this motherfucker until they got my money right. So as much as I'm going to hold it down to be like, but they do me the same way. And I got a, I got a whole tight stand on my square. And be like, no, I ain't coming until you get to, and I see the numbers. I know what everybody get. I know the value. So in those situations when, again, you got to, the people demand, we knew we wanted those back. But when the people, and y'all remember when, when it came back and we was all standing outside by the trailers and you're like, yeah, you know, I don't know why he didn't want you to come over here and say that shit that you know how it is. Like, that ain't, that's never how it was. I'm going to tell everybody, Nick cried when I came back, y'all. He cried when I came back. He cried, yeah. Nah, I fucked the episode. It was when it was before the camera came on. Yeah, the nigga hid in my dressing room. Yeah, Nick, Nick cried. He ain't even wonder about it. But that was one of the funnest episodes ever. That was one of the, because when he came out at, this is probably the only time we've done this, as I know for speaking from our perspective, because that's the thing that from my vantage point that always makes me say, well, damn, what is the, you know, what is the, the credit come in for the type of people that we are in the environment and understanding it was necessary? Because if we wanted to, we could just go out there and just, I'm talking about brave motherfuckers. And, and wouldn't be nothing nobody could do. You know what I'm saying? Like literally it wouldn't be nothing they could be done. But we understand the structure of the, this is a team sport. So we understand that it's like, man, we got to make everybody look good. Hey, bruh, don't do this, don't do that. Do this, do that. But that day when that nigga came back, we was like, nigga, get the fuck out the way. Move if you don't do this shit at the highest level. Sit down and watch, nigga. Right. That was it. That was the same episode y'all gotta have with my little brother. Yeah. That nigga, see that nigga's famous in the hood. Big asshole. Yeah. He was great on that boy. That nigga was. They designed him astro boots after that nigga. He was the only one that had the heart to step up and do something. Everybody else was like, bruh. Ah, is it because the jam was back together. The jam was back together. Yeah, cause that's what, that's the part of it. That's me and the most of us. It's like, that shit, nigga. That's the part where we'd be like, man, what is y'all, how do y'all not understand that this is here? Because we entertain each other. I see them go up. I be like, what the hell did nigga feel to say, man? When he go up, I be like, I know that nigga Chico got something clever to say. And when I go up, I look at them. I get confirmation. They be like, nigga, I'm gonna give them a fuck. What you do? I'm gonna, yeah. Y'all to live an example of solid. Like even all the shit we talking about, nigga, you ain't never seen no niggas root for each other like y'all root for each other. Like also like damn, there's some rat pack type shit. And even them niggas broke up. You know what I mean? Like y'all niggas really want to see each other win. And understand y'all let y'all go all over this fucking world or every city, state, and just vibe off of each other. Name another time. Nigga the king of comedy, they have fucked with each other. Exactly. Like, the niggas was beefing backstage. Y'all niggas really fucked with each other, man, bro. And the world watched you get it out the mud. And still keep it in the trap. And still show loyalty and love. I ain't even niggas rootin' from D-boys to rappers. All the niggas break up. You know what I'm saying? All niggas can't never break up niggas. Y'all own some shit where you literally are in front of the world a living example of what solid shit look like. All right, that's bad. No, 85 South, that shit is about unity. Y'all niggas turn the whole fucking interstate into a gang. It's a community unity. I mean, but like I said, like the same way you say, we fuck with each other, I can say it genuinely, bro, we fuck with you, like, bro, we fuck with you. Like niggas is like, niggas, niggas is like, like we really love you, Slim. Like, if you, if we never did another episode of Wild'n Out, like the fact that you was willing to stand next to that shit, that's the most niggas shit out. Like niggas. A decade, niggas. And that long, that long. Shit that you did, bro. All of this shit that you've done, you walked the years and stood next to us and said, all right, nigga, when you had my rap, we was telling all the mothers, sit y'all ass down. Nigga, y'all ain't doing no work. We got to work in the morning, nigga. We got to be on the set, nigga. Well, yeah, he's about to say, my last day tomorrow, nigga, said, all right, fuck it, y'all niggas be there. I'll be there, nigga. I'll be there, nigga, get y'all together, we can fuck it, y'all, let's do it. You can stand more day. Yeah, nigga. All right, nigga, let's come back. Y'all three gotta be together. I mean, I wish you'd tell the network that. Yeah, well, yeah, you say that now, we're gonna get it up on the next run of this. Let's keep it a track, though. I understand how it goes. No, no, let's keep it a track. I got to pay for that. There you go. But I want to see that work. You got a lot of money. And that's what I'm saying. I just invited the nigga to be on the episode. When that mean, we're gonna have to charge you a lot more, because we know you got more. You can say it. I'm talking about that nigga right there. You have a lot of money. No. Before you go, nigga, I got so much money. I got to ask you this, and we do got it, because we'll be here forever. But I'm a big, big proponent of what you said about the freedom of being able to say what you want, and manipulating the media before you, like. Before they get you. Before they get you, but like, those always say shit to me all the time. He said, man, I wish Chico I would go on shit and say ridiculous shit like you be saying. Nigga, you know how much shit you avoiding by saying the shit you say out loud. But for you, nigga, you take it to another level. Like I got on the breakfast club and said, I don't never want to be married or be in a relationship. And I done been saying this shit for years. Right, right, right. But when I said it on the breakfast club, nigga, you should have seen the comments and I'm talking about, it was crazy. Nigga, you be saying shit, but I'll be like, bro, this is beyond honesty. Like this nigga got to be fucking with somebody. Like what is you, as best as you can explain before we roll? What is your perspective on relationships with women? Oh shit, nigga, we gon' be here. That's another episode, I got to come back. Well, we gon' talk and lead into the next episode. It's energy, man. At the end of the day, whatever makes you happy, that's what I offer. You know what I mean? Luckily, God has aligned me and blessed me to be able to do whatever I want to do, however I want to do it, it came up by telling me nothing. So when it comes to love, I offer, I'm 100% from the gate. I can say, yo, I can elevate you. I can take you to places you ain't ever been before, but you gotta trust me. And it's gonna be a different level of freedom, like to where I'm so confident in who I am and hopefully the woman I'm dealing with is so confident in who she is that we can operate on some new shit and we don't gotta get stuck in these old school traditional colonialism type of scenarios. So I'm like, look, you move out, you wanna move, I move out, I wanna move, but I'm gonna be offering so much, I'm gonna be so much of a protector and a provider that you ain't gonna miss a step. And then so from there, don't everybody, everybody don't go for the shit, but I gotta take those sacrifices that pretty much like, all right, we built, we had time on this planet at a certain frequency where we was vibing, but you want different things out of life. The women who want the white picket fences and the monogamy, they're amazing women before a certain type of naked. I want somebody who want more than that. I don't want somebody who wants ownership. I want somebody who can grow and build some shit together. I've been seeing this shit for years. I've been seeing this shit for years, and most of it's gonna be crazy. And you're looking like they started to believe you. They're gonna be crazy. No, this is not, it ain't got nothing to do with that, nigga, that's a bill. But like, to hear you say that at the level that you were, it's like, you know what I mean, okay, there is a level you can get to as a man and not be respected. My granddaddy was like that, like his granddaddy, like it was- He was running our family. But I say this to say it's not a scenario to where it's, I mean, as Carlos would say, pimping and giving them game. It's actually real life shit. Right. Like it's- You're my coach. That's the game. But when you, when I say you can be happy- Pimping is just how you play it. And here you go. You can be happier over here. You know what I mean? That's pimping. Proper information motivation. Hey, positive images make it move. Mike, making power moves. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, but- Hey, what's up Lexington, Kentucky? August the 26th, I'm pulling up at the Lexington Opera House. I might be on a third bread post. Something that you can pull up to the Kentucky Derby with. But that's, that's neither here nor there. Make sure you click the link, go to the website and get the tickets. And if you don't, I'm gonna be highly disborded This is Lexington, Kentucky. Lexington. Pull up. And it ain't a lot of shit to do with Lexington. It might be that weekend. I ain't checked, but this weekend comes to me and then do that other shit when I leave. Shit. We need this money. At the end of the day, we gotta sell out this tour, man. Shit. What's up, what's up, what's up? These are not our clothes. These are not our cars. But we will be in Huntsville, Alabama. On what? The 19th. There you go. October 19th. October 19th, right. October 19th, stand up live. Huntsville, Alabama. All our, all our Alabamians, you know. I got special guests coming. I already talked to them. Carly Russell will be in the building. That's so cute. Check this out, check this out, check this out. Not only is Carly Russell coming. Nick Saber. We also having a meet and greet where you're gonna be able to see us. You're gonna be able to kick it with car. Carly gonna host the search party afterwards. It's gonna be amazed. And that baby, that baby gonna be there too. The baby. That baby. That baby. That baby. Tell me that he got a baby at all, man. It was my baby. It was now. It was me. It was me. He had on no, she had on no pants and a shirt. And I was doing it then. Is that I'm gonna do at the meet and greet? When you get back then, you see me doing this. Ladies, just follow me. Yeah. You the only person I seen let the ladies do body shots off you. Yeah. You being real freaky, y'all. So that's what you meant to. Well, man, man, no. This is family business to him. And that's not my family business. I'll be the left by that time. But when they start dressing like Donald Duck, that's when I leave. That's why you gotta get them tickets at 85southshow.com. 85southshow.com. That's right. October 19th. 100s. 100s of Alabama. I'm gonna run some float with me. You know, we're gonna get into all the children and all that. Your perspective. We're part two. We're part two. We'll say that first of all to the ladies and all that. We're part two. We're part two. We know you're gonna say some wrong shit. Man, we know you're extreme. Let's get it out of here. No, we won't let that shit over here. We're gonna let you say nothing crazy. We know you're extremely busy. We appreciate you stopping through here and fucking with us, man. I like it. We're 10 deep in there. No, we're gonna be in there 100 more. Big catch. 85southshow.com. Let's get to the finish very quick before we wrap up. Ow. OG, we appreciate you. Man, man. Yes. Love you, yo, yeah. That's real shit.