 Good morning everyone and welcome to our spring semester. This is the last semester, right, for all of you as final year students. How does it feel to be in the last semester? How does it feel to be in the last semester? Some of you, it is the last semester, right? Good morning, Ma. Good morning, Success. We did, but I wasn't happy about the outcome of the results. Because we were told that we failed because of 85% attendance was not an issue. So I want to ask hope we are taking attendance this semester to avoid failing this time again. Okay, welcome to class everyone and hope you enjoy the semester. Enjoy your learning experience. How many of you are excited, before that have a blessed New Year everyone. God bless you. How many of you are excited for joining this course? Children's Ministry and Youth Ministry. Okay, Jafina is. Thank you, John Paul. Thank you, Success. Thank you, Divya. What about the others? You feel that's, okay, as the most of you all. Anyways, how many of you are doing Children's Ministry or in Children's Ministry or contributing towards Children's Ministry as a pastor? Okay, Success. Jafina. Linden. Upper Berker. Okay. Oh, Lubega, I didn't know you were also doing Children's Ministry. Divya. Okay. So I hope this course will benefit all of you. Paul says not exciting because we are not going to graduate. Don't worry, Paul, you will graduate. If not this semester, maybe the next year, you will graduate. There's always a time when you will graduate. So I know it is pretty disappointing, but don't worry, he will graduate. I think you took a lot of courses initially. I think, I don't know if it was you or someone else, but I think that's why you had a problem. But you will eventually be in a place where you will graduate, so don't worry. And in the course, in the meantime, you will learn a lot of things. So that is good. Yeah, so coming back to Children's Ministry, I hope you're excited about learning about Children's Ministry and I hope it will help and benefit all of you. So most of you said that you are in Children's Ministry. Many of you raised your hands and said you're excited about this course. So for those of you think, why should we be studying about Children's Ministry and Youth Ministry when I'm not involved in either of the two? Maybe you'll be called as an evangelist or a missionary or a pastor. You have a calling or you go to a place and you set up a church. You have to cater to the needs of all the individuals in the church, right? And also children are part of the church, like youth, like adults. So this will be a good learning experience for you how to look at Children's Ministry, how to build on Children's Ministry, how to strengthen and equip the ministers in your church. Maybe you're pasting a church, maybe you are part of a church and you can teach them, you can help them out to enhance, to build on the Children's Ministry that's already there in place. So I'm sure this will be a good learning experience. You will benefit and also it will help you to impact the lives of others always given. Even if you're not going to be building Children's Ministry in your local church or in the church or as an evangelist or missionary, I'm sure you're married, you have children, you have niece and nephews. And sometimes you really don't know how to minister to them, to relate to them, why they're behaving in a certain way. You know, why they are reacting in a certain way, how to teach them, how to build, inculcate godly values in them. So this course will help you because we will be looking at different personality types, different learning styles and how to basically minister to children and how important children are to the Lord and in the ministry and the church. So that is just to excite you about this course and get you started so that you will have a positive outlook even as you study this course. Okay, so before we begin let's just pause for the word of prayer. Let's pray. Father, we thank you for this new day. We thank you God for another year that you've added into our lives. We thank you for being with us to the past year. We thank you God for that in your perfect faithfulness you have done wonderful things for us. You have been a counselor, a guide, a teacher. You have instructed us, you have guided us, you have led us Father, you have encouraged us, you have built us up in the faith. And we thank you for your word that has been a light to our feet and a light to our path as well God. We thank you for your grace that has been more than sufficient for us in all circumstances, in all situations. And even as we go through this new year, we just bless each of our students. We pray for your grace, for your strength, for your enabling, for your wisdom. And God above all we pray that your glory will be manifested in each one of them in a more powerful and a greater measure Father. Even as each one of us yield and submit and surrender our lives to you. We pray God that we would manifest your glory, that we would be people who represent you and represent you here on the earth. And that you would be glorified God in everything that we do, we say in our ministry, we thank you God for the opportunity to learn. We pray that even as we go through this course that you would teach us, that you would speak to us, even as we learn God to minister to children who are a gift from you, who are precious in your sight and who you love, Father God. And we pray that you would help us to build the children's ministry wherever you have placed us. And even as some of us are already in children's ministry that we will be able to equip ourselves better God to build children and to help them to grow in your word and in the faith, Father. We thank you, we bless you in Jesus name, we pray. Amen. So before we look at the biblical basis for children's ministry. Let me just ask you, is ministering to children important? What do you all think? Is ministering to children important? Yes, okay. If you say yes, why do you think ministering to children is important? Yeah, I think in the Gospels, Jesus said, let the little children come to me. So it's important that we teach them. Also, it's a common theme throughout the Bible, because even in Proverbs, it says, train a child in the way they should go. And in Deuteronomy, it says about how we have to pass on what God has done to our next generations. So yeah, yeah, so I believe it's very important. Yes, so there's a biblical basis to teach children, to minister to them. Subashi, thank you Divya. Subashi says, Jesus said, let the children come to me. Yes, so children were important in the eyes of Jesus. And he sensed the need, he knew the need of ministering to them as well and not just for adults. Yes. Why else is ministering to children important? I think it's important because when I got sick, I was 16 years old and I knew Jesus when I was 8, 7, 6. That's what I feel whenever I see children whenever I minister to them. And whatever, even as we grow as adults, we kind of still stick to what we learned in our childhood. That's how we are, that's how we behave. That's the age where we see and we just do it. Now after becoming an adult we think before we do. I think in that age we just listen, we just have that trust, have that faith. And I think that's the age, that's the right age maybe to build that foundation so that it will never be shaken off later in life. Yes, a good phase of life of a person to ground them, to build that foundation of values, of moral values, and also Godly principles and just give them the word of God because you just take it, you just receive it. That's why Jesus said, you should be like children because of the way they abandon themselves to the care of their parents in total trust. So he says, that is how we need to be totally abandoning ourselves to our Father in Heaven, totally trusting Him in everything. So yes, it's important that we build that basis, that foundation at a very early age and a very moldable age where we can mold a person to what they can become in their future. And the formative years are so important and that kind of gets the jumpstart for the rest of their life and what they are taught, what they see, how they live. All impacts the latter half of their lives or the rest of their lives, yes. So ministering to children is important, yes. Sorry, statistics show us that more than or studies or research show us that more than half the people who believe in Jesus do so by the age of 12. I don't know if any of you accepted Jesus in the very early years of your life. I did so when I was a child. So yes, more than half the people who believe in Jesus accept Jesus or believe in Him do so by the age of 12. Okay, research also tells us by the time a child is nine, their basic moral foundation has been formed. Can you see the slide? Yeah, okay. So by the time a child is nine years old, their basic moral foundation has already been found. So a form, sorry. So it's so important to ground a child in the truth of God's word so that it be the foundation on which children will build their moral values and their standards. Research also says or shows us that by the age of 13, a child has formed their basic beliefs about who God is, his nature, about the truth or the trustworthiness of God. So the Bible, the existence of afterlife and also the everlasting love of Jesus. So all this by the age of 13, the basic beliefs, whether it's moral beliefs or religious beliefs, whatever is just formed in a child by the age of 13. So it's so important for us to minister to children when they are young. So these are basically just a few things that show us the importance of ministering to children and that children's ministry is not just about getting them to color something or when they come to children's church or Sunday school, for them to just color something or just tell them narrative story and it can always be about David and Goliath or Zacchaeus or those basic truths. But give them the meat of God's word because they learn so much in school. If you look at the school curriculum, it's so advanced and why should we stop ourselves from teaching them and the meat from God's word and not just giving them milk because I don't know, when it comes to Sunday school, when it comes to children's church, we always think our children are small, they don't understand. We'll just narrate stories to them but they are able to understand, they are learning so much in school and so it's a good age for us to even teach them the foundational truths or the basic truths or even the deeper truths, the deeper revelations that is in God's word. So we look at the biblical basis and the mandate for children's ministry. Why should we teach children or why is children's ministry very important? So we saw some of these statistics and so it's very important for us as a church to focus on children as well. Sometimes we see in churches the focus is more on youth ministry and adults and kind of overlook children's ministry. Children's ministry, they meet in a small room, sometimes there is not even a space for them to meet, so they meet in the corridor or they meet on staircases, the hallway or the stairway. And it's sad and some of the rooms are so dark and dungy and we just put all the children together but we don't know the importance of really ministering to children. So we look at the biblical basis for children's ministry and how the Bible tells us the importance of teaching children, ministering to children. And also we see that Jesus, he focused not only on adults but also he focused on ministering to children. So when there is so much of importance given in the word of God to minister to children, Jesus also focused on ministering to children and he asked us to focus not only on adults but also children. Then why don't we as a church look at the importance of ministering to children in a more deeper and a more structured way. So we see that the biblical mandate for ministry or for teaching is not just for adults but also for children. So we look at a lot of scripture verses from Genesis, you know, right up to the New Testament to see the importance that the Bible gives to teach and minister to children. So the first thing is that, you know, God has a plan for children. Okay, this plan includes a family. So the concept of family was in God's mind from the very, very beginning. God created families in the very beginning. We read this in Genesis chapter one was 28 so can a couple of you take out these verses. Genesis chapter one was 28 it's on your screen as well. Genesis chapter 17 versus six and seven Genesis chapter 17 was nine and 14. So can you in one of you please read out Genesis chapter one was 28 please. Genesis chapter one was 28. Then God blessed them and God said to them be fruitful and multiply fill the earth and subdue it have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the earth, air and over every living thing that moves on the earth. So here we see that, you know, God blessed Adam and Eve and said be fruitful and increase in number that means have children, you know, and increase in numbers. So the concept of family was, you know, was in God's mind from the very beginning and God created families in the very beginning. And we also see that God chose and established Abraham's family as the family of promise through which he would, you know, fulfill his promises and his covenant. So let's read Genesis chapter 17 verse six and seven can one of you read that please. I will make you extra believe football and I will make nation of you and you shall come from you. And I will establish my covenant between me and you and your descendants after you in these generations for an everlasting covenant to be God to you and your descendants after you. Amen. Thank you. So here we see that God promising Abraham that he will establish his covenant is an everlasting covenant, not between just between him and Abraham, but also with his descendants with his children's children, the generations to come. Genesis chapter 17 verses nine to 14. Can somebody read that please. Okay, so in Genesis chapter 17 verses nine to 14. Basically is God is again telling Abraham that as for him, he needs to keep his covenant and not only him, but his descendants after him and the generations to come. And so he says this is my this is the covenant that you need to keep you and your descendants after you that you know every male should be circumcised should go should undergo circumcision. And he says this is the sign of the covenant between me and you. So we see that you know the sign of the circumcision begins as or the promise of this covenant that God is giving to Abraham or the sign of the covenant that he's giving to Abraham is to be kept by Abraham and his children's children, the generations to come. And it is to begin as you know as young as a child who's only eight days old. Okay, the child who's eight days old needs to be circumcised. So you see that you know this sign of this covenant that God is giving his beginning it's so young with a child who's just eight years old. So again here we see the importance of children in the eyes of God importance of children being part of the covenant of God from a very, very young age. Okay, the next thing is that we see in the Bible that you know children are also to be trained in God's word from a very young. Sorry I'm having a bad throat and a chest infection. Yeah, so children are to be taught the word of God from a very young age. The importance of teaching children the word of God is also given in the Bible. We read in 2 Timothy chapter 3 verse 16 that all scripture is God breed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, directing and training in righteousness. And here this verse does not specifically mention any age but it's a general mandate that is given or a general verse that is here. Talking about how scriptures God breed and how it is useful for teaching, rebuking, connecting and training. So even as we teach children, they can be taught, they can be corrected, they can be trained at the very, very young age. Okay, and we see that this mandate of teaching, rebuking, connecting and training children is found throughout scripture. And the importance God places in teaching children scripture. Let's look at Genesis chapter 18 verses 17 to 19. Basically we can read verse 19. So can somebody read Genesis chapter 18 verse 19 please. For I have known him in order that he may command his children and his household after him, that they keep the way of the Lord to do righteousness and justice, that the Lord may bring to Abraham what he has spoken to him. Amen. Thank you Salatoli. So God is basically saying why he has chosen Abraham as the person to which he is going to make his covenant and his promises and to choose him and the promise family as a promise generation, the promise in nation. And he says he's chosen him because he knows Abraham will direct his children and his household after the connect. Okay, sorry he lost the network connection and is reconnected. So he's saying that God does not just choose Abraham because of his faith that he would portray or exemplify. He did not just choose Abraham because he would be righteous in his eyes, but he also chose Abraham because he knew that he would direct his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord and doing what is right. And just so that the Lord will bring about for Abraham what he has promised him. So look at the condition that God is giving here. He's saying that God is saying that I will bring about and I will fulfill my promise in the covenant that I made with Abraham. Why? Because of the prerequisite that is there or the command that he has to obey or the requirement that is there. And what is the requirement that he will teach his children his household to keep the way of the Lord and doing what is right. So you see the importance that God is giving to teach children to do what is right in the eyes of the Lord or do what is just in the eyes of the Lord. Look at Exodus chapter 12 verses 24 to 27. Basically here God is giving instructions regarding the Passover to Moses and Aaron and they call the elders of the community and they give them these instructions in Exodus chapter 12 verses 24 to 27. So can somebody read that please? Exodus chapter 12 verse 24 to 27. You shall observe this right as a statute for you and for your sons forever. And when you come to the land that the Lord will give you as he has promised, you shall keep this service. And when your children say to you, what do you mean by this service? You shall say it is the sacrifice of the Lord's Passover for he passed over the houses of the people of Israel in Egypt. When he struck the Egyptians, but spared our houses and the people bowed their heads and worshipped. Amen. Thank you Titia. So here, you know, Moses and Aaron have given the instructions regarding the Passover to the people, the Hebrew people in Egypt. And they're telling them that, you know, you need to obey these instructions as a lasting ordinance for you and your descendants. So God is saying and telling the people that they need to keep this, you know, do this every year what they have done this whole Passover ritual or this whole Passover way of doing the Passover. They need to keep doing it year after year and, you know, observe it as a ceremony and God is not, you know, God is not a God of who's interested in just basic rituals. You know, because rituals can become more, you know, can just become so ritualistic or legalistic that it doesn't have any impact in a person's life or in a nation or in a group of people. But here he's saying, you know, do it because, you know, it can be a way that you can teach like an object lesson, you know, so to say like an object lesson that you can do to teach children, you know, what really happened on that first Passover. And when you do this whole ceremony, you know, children will ask you what the ceremony means and then you teach them, you know, how God delivered them out of Egypt and how he struck the Egyptians and how God saved them and God protected them and called them out as his own. So, by doing this whole ceremony, it was not just being a ritual that people just do it and, you know, for the sake of doing it, but it had a greater significance of basically teaching the generations who this God is, what he has done for them and how they can put their trust in this God and who he really is and what is his nature and what he has done for them as a people and they can put their trust in their faith in him. So even as we teach children, you know, it's important that, you know, whether it's, you know, doing the sharing the Lord's table with them, or, you know, the Christmas time, the whole Easter season, you know, all of these seasons that we can take them through is a good time to teach them, you know, the nature of God, what he's, what he's come to do for us, what these different festivals really, you know, teach us and how they can build on their faith and, you know, how they can put their trust in God and, you know, who really God is. So, and not just a kind of, you know, doing something for Christmas, Christmas party and, you know, the nativity scene, but teaching them deeper truths of who God is and what he has done for us as his people. So children can learn. And so he's saying, do this as a ceremony so that children can learn. And they would know their God and they would put their faith and trust in him. So being mindful of the fact that, you know, children don't have Bibles like our children have today. All that they, the way that they learn is just when they are passed on from mouth to mouth and they just taught by the previous generation, the older generation and how it is passed on to the next generation. Look at what it says in Deuteronomy chapter 31 verses 12 to 13. Basically here in Deuteronomy chapter 31, we see that Moses is 120 years old and is no longer able to lead the people. So God has chosen Joshua as the next leader and Moses is instructing the people. And in these verses, he's telling the people that when Israel appears before the Lord, their God in the place where he chooses, you know, God requires them to read the law before all Israel in their hearing. And so he's saying in Deuteronomy chapter 31, Moses is saying, you know, when you read, assemble the people. You know, he's not just saying assemble men, women, but he's also including children and aliens living in your town. So you see that even children are not left out from, you know, hearing the reading of the law. So you might ask, you know, how would children understand, but, you know, God required them to be there when the law is read out. So it says in this verses in Deuteronomy chapter 31 verses 12 and 13, so they can listen and learn to fear the Lord, their God. So can somebody read that please? Deuteronomy chapter 31 verses 12 to 13. Deuteronomy chapter 31 verses 12 to 13. Gather the people together, men and women and little ones and the stranger who is within your gates, that they may hear and that they may learn to fear the Lord, your God and carefully observe all the words of this law. And that their children who have not known it may hear and learn to fear the Lord, your God as long as you live in the land which you cross the Jordan to possess. Thank you, Jeffina. So here, you know, God is saying, why should the law be read out so that people are careful to, you know, do and obey the words of the law and also the children who do not know this law must hear it and learn to fear the Lord, to cover him, just know him as long as they live in the land that they are crossing the Jordan to possess. The next scripture verse we look at is Psalm 78 verses 1 to 8. Very beautiful verses talks about the importance of teaching children. So can somebody read Psalm 78 verses 1 to 8 please? Give ear all my people to my law, incline your ears to the words of my mouth. I will open my mouth in a parable. I will utter dark sayings of the old which will have had unknown and our fathers have told us. We will not hide them from their children, telling to the generation to come the praises of the Lord and his strength and his wonderful works that he has made. For he establishes a testimony in Jacob and appointed a law in Israel which he commanded our fathers that they should make them known to their children. That the generation to come might know them, the children who would be born, that they may arise and declare them to their children, that they may set their hope in God and not forget the works of God but keep his commandments. And he may not be like their fathers, a stubborn and a rebellious generation, a generation that denounced it's heart, a right and whose spirit was not faithful to God. Amen. Thank you, Lubega. So very interesting here it says, you know, teach, you know, teach, listen to the words of God, you know, each the parables, they teach the things that are hidden, the mysteries, the truth from the word of God and teach it to your children and don't hide it from them. So here we see the importance of not just telling children, you know, narrating to them, doing those ceremonies and narrating to them what God did, you know, when they were in Egypt, why they celebrate the Passover, but also teach them the deeper truths, the deeper revelations in God's word, you know, and don't hide it from them. Tell the children, you know, the praiseworthy deeds of God, his power, his wonders, why, so that, you know, these children would put their trust in God, they would not forget what he has done. And also they would not be like their forefathers, a stubborn, rebellious generation whose hearts were not loyal to the Lord. So here God is placing the importance of teaching children, not just, you know, simple milk, but also, you know, the mysteries, the deeper truths, the meat from his word and his law. And he's saying do it so that, you know, they will not be stubborn and rebellious generation. So see the importance of teaching the God's word from a very young age so that children don't grow up to be stubborn and rebellious. Children are also part of the covenantal community of Israel. They are, you know, we look at this in Jeremiah chapter 32 was 38 to 41, that, you know, children are an integral part of the covenantal community. We read in Jeremiah chapter 31, 32 was this 38 to 41 where it says, you know, they shall be my people and I will be their God and I will give them one heart and one way that they may fear me always for their own good and for the good of the children after them. I will make an everlasting covenant with them and I will not turn away from them to do them good. I will put the fear of me in their hearts so that they will not turn away from me. I will rejoice over them to do them good and will faithfully plant them in this land with all my heart and with all my soul. So we see that even as God is promising, you know, his people what he is, he is going to do as part of his everlasting covenant that he's made for them. You know, he says that, you know, he'll do even for the good of their children. So children are an integral part of the covenantal community during the time of Israel. So today the covenantal community is the church. So we know that children are an integral part of the church as well. Look at what Deuteronomy chapter 6 verses 6 and 7 says. Can somebody read that please? Deuteronomy chapter 6 verses 6 and 7. Deuteronomy chapter 6 verses 6 and 7. And these words which I command you today shall be in your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down and when you rise up. Thank you, Rosalind. So here we see that, you know, God is giving the importance of teaching the laws and the commandments to children. And he says don't teach them but impress. You know, impress is leave such an impression, a mark, you know, that they hold on to, you know, and he's saying teach them the commandments, not just in a specific time and season, not just when you are, you know, celebrating the Passover or celebrating the other feast or, you know, doing all the sacrifices and rituals when you go to the temple. But he's saying, you know, impress these commandments in to your children, you know, talk about them when you're sitting at home, when you're walking along on the road, when you're lying down when you get up, which means that, you know, 24 bar seven, we teach children, you know, the commandments, the truths, the laws, the ordinances of God. Proverbs chapter 22 verse 6, can somebody read that please? Clean up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old, he will not depart from it. Amen. So it says, you know, teach children the way they should go. And when they're old, they will not turn away from it. Okay, so important to teach them the laws, the commandments of God, teach them the ways the Lord teach them who God is, get them connected to God so that, you know, when they're old, they will not turn away. Even if they turn away, you know, even if they go astray, you know, the spirit of God will, you know, teach them. He is the one who teaches. He's the one who helps us to remember the truths or help us to remember all that Jesus has told us, you know, and he will bring them back to the way. So, you know, this, in the month of December, I had the opportunity of attending two weddings and both of them where children, in the Children's Church, when I joined the APC Children's Church as a pastor, it was just such a joy to see both of them getting married to, you know, they chose Godly women. And, you know, when people spoke of their spouse, the bride, they said, the things that they said was, you know, God-fearing, prayerful, loves the Lord, and who we can see the foot of the spirit, very evident. So I was just so excited and happy at the way God has worked in the lives of these two young men, just to choose, you know, Godly women, just to get married in a Godly way, which is such a blessing, was just such, you know, just such an honor to be there and also just thanking and praising God for what he has done in their lives. I know that one child really struggled through, went through a lot of challenging times, even when he was in Children's Church, his mother used to share with me, and we used to really pray to God and just to see him there in that place with a Godly wife was, you know, was just so wonderful to just thank God for his work in that young man's life. Another child who got married, of course, he's a young man now, somebody who would never speak to me in Children's Church, even if I tell that child, I think he would just stare at me, would just look at me, no response, no yes, no, if not even say yes and no. And I thought that, you know, nothing was just going through this child, I didn't even really know how to really help this child, even if I asked a question in class, I used to teach them when they were in the ninth and the tenth grade. He would just look back, stare at me and not say a thing, I'm sure he knew the answer, but he would just not respond. So I didn't, I don't know why the child was so close and would not respond, not speak, he was a very quiet child. But just to see him marry, you know, I mean, of course, he struggled through his mother would always share and he would pray. But just to see this child go through life and then, you know, choose a Godly woman and get married. And then when I went to wish them on stage, he's telling the bride, his wife, he say, you know, you always ask me, you know, how my Bible knowledge is so good, it's because of her. You know, I just, I was quite embarrassed, I hid behind my sister, but just to hear him say that was in my heart, I was just so overwhelmed. I was just thanking God and saying God, I mean, even as we labor not knowing sometimes, you know, whether we're making an impact in children's life, whether it's going through how to really relate how to really minister to them. But it's your word that really, and it's your spirit that really has ministered has, you know, help these young men to grow. And just for me for to hear that from him was just such a blessing. So, you know, even as we minister to children, some of you, you know, you have children at home, and you're finding it challenging and difficult. Sometimes you're wondering if you're really making an impact, you know, just be faithful, just sincere in teaching them in the way they should go. And when they grow old, they will never turn away from it because it's God's word. God's word is power. God's word performs and achieves the reason, the purpose for which it goes forth, and will bear root. Amen. So just as to encourage some of you who might find children's ministry challenging, difficult to find yourself, whether you're getting through to them, or even as a parent, even as you are teaching and calculating your children into your children. You know, God would bring to pass his word and all that you are investing into their lives with his word. Okay. Any questions so far? Any questions? Okay. We'll move on then. We're still in the biblical mandate for children's ministry. We see that children are also part of the corporate worship in the covenantal community or in the Israelite community. So we see that the biblical pattern is for family, old, adults, young people, children to come together to worship, praise, to pray, times of repentance for hearing of the scripture and also salvation. Okay. So let's look at children are part of the corporate worship when it comes to praise. Can somebody please read Psalms chapter 148 verses 12 to 13 please. Both young men and maidens, old men and children, let them praise the name of the Lord for his name alone is exalted. His glory is above the earth and heaven. Amen. Thank you, Lubega. So here we see that, you know, praising God and worshiping God is not just for the older folks, the adults or for young people, but also for children. So, you know, if you are in children's ministry, it's good to teach children action songs, but also get them to a time of praise, but also lead them into a time of worshiping God. And you see that children just basically love to worship. Nowadays children, they don't like to do much of action songs. They like to be like adults. They grow up very soon than their age compared to when I was in children's church. Even when I was in grade six, seven, I would love to do action songs, but nowadays our children in grade five, six, seven, you know, they are very shy to do action songs, but when it comes to worship, they just love to worship God. So, you know, it's important that even as we give so much of importance to worship in the adult church, important for us to also give that same kind of importance to building a band or worship team to get children into really worshiping God and praising Him. Okay, we'll stop here and we'll come back after the break. Thank you.