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The opinions expressed are necessarily those of the speakers. Congressman Herter, our audience knows of you as a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and as a leading Republican in Congress. I wonder if you'd speak to us, sir, tonight a bit about the foreign affairs of our nation. I think perhaps the most pressing foreign problem or perhaps the most talked-of foreign problem is whether or not General Eisenhower will run for president as a Republican, of course. Well, there, obviously I've got to express my own opinion. I happen to be very enthusiastic for General Eisenhower as a candidate for the Republican ticket. And my feelings about the general can very briefly be explained by the fact that I think he's got a concept of the importance of our foreign relations today that is unequaled by many people in public life. And I have a very deep conviction that our foreign relations condition almost everything that happens in our domestic affairs. In other words, that today the conduct of our foreign affairs is the most important factor in our domestic life. Well, Congressman, you say the general has a concept. Well, he has been asked by virtually everybody what those concepts are. If he's not declaring at least, can you tell us what he stands for on foreign problems and on domestic problems if he becomes president he has to run this country. What does General Eisenhower stand for? A literary cell. There, obviously, I'm in the same position as any other private citizen. I can quote his published works. I could tell you that I've talked to him as an individual and convinced myself that he's got an extraordinarily clear picture of where our role in this world is conditioned by the relationship with other countries. Nobody can speak for him. He's going to have to speak for himself. When will that be, Congressman? Well, I'm convinced that it will come fairly soon after the Lisbon Conference that comes early in February. But that is the time where he has got to make at least his last appearance as the Commander-in-Chief in Europe. Now, I'm, again, speaking without authority. I'm guessing. But I think it will come very soon after that. Is there any political significance in the United States? Any political events which might hasten his decision and declaring himself? Well, there are a number of things that are happening automatically in our political life. The New Hampshire primaries come on the 10th of March. Under the New Hampshire law, at the end of January, the 29th of January, to be exact, the Secretary of State of New Hampshire has got to notify any potential candidate whose name may go on the ballot. Because we'll suddenly go on the ballot in New Hampshire. But he has 10 days in which to withdraw his name from the ballot if he sees fit to do so. But don't the Democrats have the same prerogative? They have the same prerogative. And I think at that stage of the game, the General has got to make up his mind whether he's willing to have his name go on the Republican ballot and whether he's willing to have it taken off the Democratic ballot. Either or. Well, kind of. There's been a great deal of conjecture. And obviously you're convinced he's going to stand for the presidency of the United States if he can get the Republican nomination. Do you think he can get the nomination if he declares? Yes, I do. I think he's been handicapped. I think he's been handicapped by factors that are entirely outside of his own control. And one of them that I'm rather bitterly critical of that I'd like to talk about is the slowness with which our own productive capacity in this country has been turning out armaments that could be used in the setting up of the European Army. How does this affect the General? It affected me very much because the whole time schedule on which he was supposed to operate from the point of view of a unified command on the arming of a minimum number of divisions has been set way back by our own slowness. Could we have hastened that? Hasn't this time lag been due to tooling up? The time lag has not been due to tooling up. The time lag debt is an excuse that is given. But I think you'll find when you analyze the picture that the time lag has been due to perfectionists in the military establishment who've not been satisfied with any given tank, any given plane, any given gun. They've always wanted to make a better one until they've never given firm orders to turn out something which could be sent to Europe or sent to Indochina or for that matter, to Korea. Do the Russians force our hand on this? Do the Russians keep producing better tanks, guns, planes? They do planes, certainly. Well, they keep producing them. What we have been doing, unfortunately, has been diddling a good deal with the perfectionist designs that we want to turn out ourselves. Well, in blueprints. And for that reason, I think we're at least 10 months to a year behind what we should have been from the point of view of the appropriation that Congress made. Well, Congressman Hertha, then you think that the North Atlantic Treaty Organization is a failure, don't you? No. You say it has no armament? Not by a long shot. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization had a long way to go. When you're putting together the armed forces of a great many different nations under a unified command, you've got a tremendous number of problems dealing with national pride, national sovereignty, the pay schedules of the different non-commissioned officers, the officers, and everything that is connected with making a unified whole of a conglomerate mass of different nationalities. Well, that brings up the point of Mr. Churchill. Mr. Churchill says that he will throw in with us in NATO if we keep Mr. or General Eisenhower at the command of the European operation, which sort of puts Mr. Churchill in the role of supporting TAV. No, it doesn't. It keeps Britain out of the general declares. Is he going to declare or is he going to stay? And Mr. Churchill will come in if he goes out. Well, I think you're dealing now with what had been termed in days on by as an iffy question. Well, I don't think that those two things are definitely related. In other words, I think that General Eisenhower can get this picture in such shape that he can very properly retire and let a competent successor carry on. Mr. Churchill talks about the individual that is the cyniquinon of an effective organization I don't believe in. Well, Congressman, that's not an iffy question. The Prime Minister of the British Empire, Winston Churchill, is a very determined man. He says he doesn't go in if the general goes out. Now, the general may declare, but what happens to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization if England doesn't come through? Well, you're a better judge of the timing of a news story than I am. Thank you, sir. On the other hand, Churchill's statement was made two days ago and then it was followed by a very succinct statement to his attitude toward the armament problem in Europe and the relationship with the unified Europe. And I have a feeling that his second statement completely overshadowed the first and that the first dealing with the inevitable day of Eisenhower remaining in the picture has now been superseded. May I ask this? If the general runs, I don't think this question has ever yet been asked. Who will he run with? You're high on the Republican ranks. You're booming Eisenhower for president. Have you people considered a running mate for General Eisenhower? No, and I don't think that that is something that needs to be considered at this moment. The convention time is still six months away. Frankly, my primary consideration is getting Eisenhower nominated in the first instance. You have some doubt of that? Well, I've got doubt about that because you've got certain factors today that are working against Eisenhower in the picture and let's not minimize them. Which is awesome. Well, today with these candles that are developing day after day that are undermining people's faith in the administration's ability to carry on an honest administration in the tax department, in a lot of various departments the post office department, other departments of the government there is a growing conviction that the Republicans can win with any ticket whatsoever. A dangerous supposition, isn't it? I mean for the Republicans. Well, from my point of view it is. I think we've been deluded by that same illusion, if you want to call it that. Before. I don't want to see us do it again. And by any candidate, you mean Senator Taft? Well, I mean Senator Taft and I'm not minimizing Senator Taft as an individual. I've been a personal friend of his for 30 years but Senator Taft is a fine individual who from the point of view of the ordinary rules of the game would be entitled to the nomination for his contribution to the party. Do you think he can win, sir? If not... My principal reason for feeling so strongly about I now as a very able and competent person is that I think that he can win and that he has a very much better chance of winning and I think that terribly important from the point of view of the future of this country. Well Congressman Herter, we certainly appreciate you coming with us. You have enlightened us a good deal about General Eisenhower's chances and his campaign. We appreciate you being with us tonight. Thank you, sir. The editorial board for this edition of the Laun Jean Chronoscope was Mr. Donald I. Rogers and Mr. Victor Rizel. Our distinguished guest was the honorable Christian A. 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