 I have a background in forestry and metrology, and I'm interested to look at the role of forests in relationship with the climate and very precisely the role of forests in regulating local climate or microclimate. But at the moment it's also interesting to look at what's the role of forests in sequestering and also releasing carbon from the ecosystem. We need to know exactly how much carbon will be sequestered by this ecosystem and also release when it is removed from the landscape. So we want to know the detail about the above-ground biomass in the forest and also below-ground biomass. We're also interested to look at the below-ground biomass because we are also working in the pitland ecosystem where organic material is so important there and we look at the dynamic of pitland and the role of pitland in storing carbon as well as the vulnerability of pitland itself when the forest is removed. So we are interested to look at how the ecosystem will respond when land use is changed in pitland ecosystem. If you look at from the surface, pit forests look similar to the rest of the forest, what we call forest grown in mineral soil. But if you go into the forest itself, you will see how different it is when you look at the situation on the ground and below the ground. When you dig up the soil, basically you do not have what we call mineral soil. It's basically organic material, damped there for thousands of years. So it's very rich in terms of organic material. And the depth of this pit can reach up to 15 meters. So you can imagine the amount of carbon stored there. Most of the area where we can find pitland is a lowland area and it's regularly flooded and also drained. So this inundation and draining caused the system to try to accumulate carbon but the decomposition rate is relatively slow so that the organic material coming from the litter, the dead material will be damped there for years. It's very much associated with the policy being drafted or being implemented in connection with the so-called conversion forests. In this particular class of forests, pit forests is amongst them. So it's interesting to look at the policy and the biophysical processes on the ground. We try to see how policies should be or will be informed with regard to what's happened if you convert pitland forests into something else. And strictly speaking, most of this area will be converted to agricultural expansion including oil, palm, and palpable plantation. With the debate on the climate change and people start to understand the role of forests in regulating global climate, not only microclimate, I think people should be aware and should be made aware of the role of forests. What I mean by people here is not necessarily people on the street but it's good that they're also aware but also people who do business. So the business community should be aware also about their consequences of their action. This is the beginning because the new government also starts with a new set of teams and I think it's timely to discuss that across the table. In the cabinet, you cannot address the issue of pitland in one particular sector. It has to be discussed across the cabinet including, for example, Ministry of Agriculture, Planning Bureau, whatever, related to the use and also the role of pitland. And also the issue of, I think it's long debated, this spatial planning and I think from the legal point of view it should also involve parliamentary debate as well. From the political point of view, a lot of things have been discussed outside the negotiation table but I think the leaders of the world send quite mixed messages to the rest of the community. In one hand they want to do something meaningful to cut or deep cut the emission but at the same time they also have their domestic agenda. So it's not quite clear how things will converge in Copenhagen right now. This is exciting because science is always exciting. We have a lot of questions to answer and hopefully the answer will be meaningful in decision making and you want to convey that message to them. For climate change, I think the impact is clear. It's here and now. We can feel it. We do not need to wait until 50 years or 100 years and for developing countries like Indonesia the impact is so evident and we need to do something however little it is.