 All right, everybody, welcome to your Unbrook show on this Sunday, October 15th. I hope everybody is having a good weekend and you are finding time to enjoy yourself. Oops, I haven't put it on the video yet. There we go. Camera's on. All right, there we go. Sorry about that. Let me stop by just saying thank you to all of you for watching all the videos. I think a lot of the videos have been shared. A lot of the videos have been liked. The videos are getting around. There's a lot of viewership. So thank you for that. I see Nico's video of his talk. That message was just retracted. It has 85,000 views. That's great that it has that. There's a lot of great content that I and the Andrew Institute have produced over the years with regard to the Israeli-Appalachian conflict, with regard to the entire Middle East. Thank you for consuming it, for sharing it, for promoting it, and for getting it out there. 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And on my thinking and my development intellectually. And I know on many of you, Lena has inspired and changed many of our lives and made them richer and better. So thank you, Lena Pekov. All right, great. Let's jump in quickly with an assessment of what's going on right now. And then maybe a kind of a big picture kind of strategy where what I think the strategy is or where I think the, what it is and what I think it should be in terms of the current conflict and how it's evolving. And then I want to do a segment on the Israeli-Palestinian kind of history. And it won't do, obviously, justice because you'd need a big book in order to do that. But it'll give you an outline. It'll at least give you a sense of what's going on. If Christian is watching this, that section definitely needs to be its own video, right? So the section, the way I talk about the history, should become its own video. All right, you know, as you probably know, because my assumption is some of you are consuming the news, Israel has not yet started its ground offensive, rumors yesterday were, or last night on the West Coast at least, were that they had delayed the ground offensive because of weather. That is not unreasonable. At this time of year, there could be a lot of cloud cover in that part of the world. Israel needs to be particularly accurate in terms of air support. And cloud coverage could make a big difference both for helicopters, but mainly for drones and airplanes. Israel wants optimal conditions. And here I think it's important to understand why. What Israel is about to embark on, if I understand, I think I understand what they're planning to do, this is going to be one of the most complex military operations ever. Suddenly, the most complex military operation these really army is ever engaged in. And what makes it at least a hundred times more complicated and more difficult is whatever they do, it's going to be streamed live on Twitter and on mainstream media and everywhere. And it's not just going to be streamed live, it's going to be streamed and manipulated, it's going to be streamed with commentary, it's going to be selectively edited. Everything they do, every step they take will be broadcast. There's going to be no secrecy here really, there's going to be very little surprise. This is going to be a war where really everything is going to be right there on CNN in real time. And that makes operations and war and it makes rules of engagement far more difficult. And let's be clear, Israel is going to be under very, very strict rules of engagement. It's going to be very, very cautious in terms of killing civilians. Civilians will die, but that's in spite of Israel's efforts, not because of Israel's efforts. And anybody who says otherwise is just lying, innovating, as I've said many times, the rules of engagement just like the US military are super strict and ridiculous. They're suicidal in my view and they're immoral, but they are what they are. And given that the world is watching everything, as Rob said, especially on Telegram, Telegram is where the real gruesome videos go. Israel is going to be careful not to give good PR to the bad guys. And it's tragic and sad that that is the situation, that that is the case, that Israel has to do that. But that is the reality and I don't think Israel has any choice but to take that into consideration. Well, I do think they have a choice, but given their own philosophy, given their own moral case, I don't see what alternative there. Anyway, so ground operations will begin any hour now, any day now. As I've said before, every day that Israel waits is a day that makes this operation more difficult, not more easy. On the other hand, they're trying to integrate 360,000 reserve soldiers into this operation. Now, many of those soldiers are not based in Gaza. Many of those soldiers have gone north to Lebanon and Syria. We'll get to that in a minute. So they are training them. They are strategizing. So I understand the need for time, but a lot of this is, but again, the longer they wait, the more difficult this will be. They've also extended this to allow the Palestinians to evacuate the northern Gaza to go south. They've also announced, you will figure this out, but they've announced that in order to buy the greater incentive for those in the north to go south, they are providing water in the south. That is, Israel will start pumping water from Israel into the Gaza Strip in the south, but not in the north in order to provide incentive for those in the north to go south. The problem is, and there's a ton of evidence of this, that Hamas is not permitting those in the north to go to the south. Hamas is taking people's cars, destroying people's cars. They are blockading the streets. They are telling people that they are traitors if they go south. And basically, as I've said yesterday, Hamas wants as many innocent, as many civilian casualties as possible for its propaganda. And the fact that these civilian casualties are Palestinian, Hamas doesn't care. It's all for the greater good. It's all for great cause. It's all for Allah and for Palestinians, something or other. So, I think this is really, really, really important to understand this and to understand the extent of the evil that Hamas represents. It's not like they care one iota about the lives of their own people. It's not like they're freedom fighters. It's not like they're liberators. They don't care about the lives of their own people. All they care about is destruction, destruction of Israel, killing Israeli as many as possible, and to garden as much international support and to play off of the West's altruism and the West's appeasement as much as possible to attain the goal. So, that's Gaza. We'll wait and see what happens. And this is unbelievable to me that Israel is allowing this, but it is happening. And this is again the delay of the ground offensive. This morning, massive rocket attacks on Tel Aviv, on Central Israel. You know, these rocket attacks did not cause a lot of casualties because of Israel's iron dome and because people are protected in airhead shelters. But it is just horrific, the idea that people have to live with the constant idea that missiles are raining on them and falling from the sky and that Israel has not yet done enough, whether from the air or with drones or whatever, to destroy Hamas's capability to do this. Again, this continues to be a massive intelligence failure. It continues to be a failure of Israelis to be willing to actually bomb as much of the Gaza as needs to be bombed in order to prevent aggressive actions of Hamash against Israel. And I know that everybody's going to jump up and down. Oh, but civilians will die. Yes, civilians are going to die. Many, many thousands of civilians are probably going to die. That is the reality. That is the reality Hamas has created. That is the reality those who initiated force have created. And Israel needs to get on with it. And they need to get on with it quickly. And every day that they allow more missiles to be launched in Israel is another day where they look and present and are weak and it's another day for Hamas, propaganda. I mean, right now there are accounts on Twitter and elsewhere and all over the place claiming that there was no massacre. Children were not killed. Women were not raped. It goes against the rules of Islam to do stuff like that. And civilians were not killed. All of that is videos produced by the Israelis in order to fool the world. It is all a lie, a myth. Literally that is being argued out there. And there are Americans, libertarians, right wingers, new right types who are picking up on this and using this. Now, this is all a Netanyahu scheme to take on Hamas, to give re-election, to unite the country. This is all being orchestrated by the Mossad. This is the kind of stuff you have to go up against and you have to understand that anybody who is trying to do this, anybody who is trying to do this, is supporting and by supporting becoming evil. And again, if you're interested in my arguments about civilian casualties, I encourage you to read my Just War Theory article. Israel should be defending itself and not putting its own citizens in harm's way and they should stop worrying about civilian casualties on the other side. They have done everything they can. Enough, enough is enough. It's time to put the interests of Israel first and to stop buying into the sacrificial, altruistic stuff. And yes, I know the left is worse than the right but you want me to align with the right. You don't want me to align with the left. I'm just trying to show you why an alliance with the right would be evil, not just bad, evil. Because, you know, if there are people like this on the right, who the hell wants to align with them? Nobody, nobody has ever argued about objectivism aligning with the left. So you need me to criticize the left? Just go watch Fox, they do a very good job at it, good for them. But watch those libertarian accounts and watch those new right accounts and those people, those people should be shunned, evicted, they should be, none of us, anybody saying should have anything to do with it, anything to do with them. I have no problem in align with the better parts of the liberty movement. All right, let me see. Okay, two other developments that I want to highlight and we'll get into quickly into strategy. One is there are constant, there are constant incursions on the northern front. Chizballah, whether it's elements of Hamas, but nothing happens in the north without Chizballah's being permitting. There are regular shootings, at least one Israeli has been killed. I think number of soldiers have been injured, maybe more being killed. There is constant fighting on the north on a low scale. I have said when this started that Israel needs to preemptively take on Chizballah and destroy it. What's happening in the north is not helping Israel, it is hurting. It is a distraction. It is allowing Chizballah to have the strategic advantage by giving them the option of intervening, not intervening, went to intervene, intervened a little bit, intervened a lot. Israel needs to take the strategic initiative. I'll get to that in a minute. And the same is true in Syria. A number of rockets have been launched from Syria into Israel. They were intercepted. But again, they are elements of the Iranian National Guard in Syria. More Iranians are moving into Syria. Iranians in bases in the east of Syria are moving west towards the border with Israel. Iran definitely wants to distract Israel. Whether it wants to actually get involved in the fighting, I don't know. But at the very least what they're succeeding in doing, what they're succeeding in doing, is distracting Israel by putting troops on Israel's border with Syria. And the Russians, of course, are allowing this. The Russians control Syria. They decide who moves where and what happens. So the Russians are allowing this. And this is a distraction. Again, Israel needs to take the strategic initiative. Okay, so let's talk about strategy. Israel is going to try to avoid a two or three-front war right now. They're going to try to deal with Hezbollah and with any Iranian threat kind of at a low level. Israel attacked the airfields of Damascus and Aleppo. I think it was Aleppo. Anyway, airfields that Iranians could use to bring in troops and to bring in weapons systems. They created those airfields. They should have made them completely inoperable by taking out the control towers and everything else. But again, Israel is playing, you know, being weak and not going all out. They're trying to keep everything on a low flame. And the idea is here, we just want to keep them away. We're in a posture to react, but we're not going to take the initiative and we just want to keep them away. Let's see, Israel is committed now to a ground offensive in the north of Gaza. And, you know, they're 500 kilometers. 500 kilometers, what, 350 miles of tunnels underneath Gaza. That's why I say this is going to be so difficult, so horrific. Hamas can move around in those tunnels, can move from place to place. Israel is trying to get bunker-busting bombs so they can take out those tunnels. They're waiting for as many of the civilians to evacuate north Gaza as possible in order to start on that. But then they're going to have to move in and they're going to have to try to go into those tunnels. They're also going to try to save as many of the hostages as possible. That is going to require going into those tunnels. Special forces units will be doing that kind of work and it is going to be bloody. Israel is going to take a lot of casualties and it's going to be unbelievably difficult. So strategically, the aim right now is to go into north Gaza and dismantle everything related to Hamas in the north. Destroy all the tunnels, find all of them, destroy any munitions and find and kill any Hamas fighters that remain in the north. Of course, they are probably some of them evacuating, some of them are laying booby traps for the Israelis right now. And remember, this means that Israeli troops, tanks, armored personnel carriers are going to move into heavily built-up areas. There will be snipers everywhere. There will be mines. There will be anti-tank missiles. There will be every trick, every barrier, every kind of booby trap conceivable will be placed in those roads. And believe me, the Hamas will not worry about whether some Palestinian kid might trip over these and blow himself up. They don't care about the lives of their own children. They don't care about the lives of their own population. They have never cared. Again, they are doing this for Allah and in Allah's service, everything is on the table. What else do I want to say about this? So this again, after they take the north of Gaza, I don't know what they do then. It's not clear what they do with the population now that's in the south. Do they ask them to evacuate north into where Israel is occupying? Do they ask the Egyptians to take them? But in order to actually get Hamas, they're going to have to go to the south of Gaza. They're going to have to take over the entire section, right? This is 25 miles long. It's three to six miles wide. That's it. That's the entire Gaza Strip. It's tiny. But it's going to be house to house street to street tunnel by tunnel. Most of those tunnels I think they'll just destroy, but partially they're going to do what they can to figure out if there are hostages in the tunnels before they destroy them. Very, very difficult operation. And again, they're going to try to hold back on the northeast Syria and Lebanon. What I would do is a lot more ruthless and a lot more brutal. I would be much more ruthless in the bombing right now and the destruction of the tunnels from the air. I would rely less on the ground operation, which has to come, but I would soften the ground much more before that by using much more artillery and air support and just flattening as much of Gaza, of northern Gaza as possible before entering. But again, they are playing to an international crowd and they are being particularly cautious of not upsetting the altruists all over the world. I would preempt in Lebanon. I would take out as much of Hezbollah's capabilities as possible before Hezbollah takes the initiative. And I would do whatever I can, I think Israel can do a lot, basically to demolish whatever troops, and this all can be done from the air, or mostly can be done from the air, to demolish Iranian capabilities in Syria. I mean, they've been doing it for years now, bombing Iranians in Syria. They need now a systematic campaign over the next few days to take out every single asset Syria has, I mean, Iran has in Syria, and not worry about who else is being hurt. I think that the worry is not to piss off the Russians. At this point, how are the Russians? Russians aren't going to get involved. Particularly, I think that's why the Sixth Fleet or the America has two aircraft carriers off the coast of Israel. It's to make sure Russia doesn't get involved. So go in there and wipe out the Iranian presence and knock down any plane coming from Iran into Syria. I don't understand how Israel allows the foreign ministers of Iran to just travel around Lebanon and Syria and to strategize with enemies about what the next move is. Those airplanes, it should be clear to the world. An airplane taking off from Iran heading towards Syria or Lebanon will be shot down. It keeps civilians off those airplanes. I mean, this is war. And it's a regional war. This is not war with Hamas. This is a war with Iran. And Israel doesn't have the resources right now to go and take Iran, take on the regime in Iran. Armin is here. Thank you, Armin. Really, really appreciate your support. But the regime in Iran needs to fall as a consequence of all of this. And that will help the Iranians enormously. But Israel does not have the capacity to take on Iran while doing everything else. But it should make clear that Iranian troops, Iranian militias will not be tolerated west of Iraq. They can go to Iraq all they want. Once they cross over to Syria or Jordan or anyway, they will be destroyed by Israel. Whether it's drones or airplanes, whatever Israel has to do, it will destroy them. And, you know, let the Russians consider shooting down the Israeli plane and see what the consequence of that will be to the marketability of their ground to air missiles in the future. Because I think they will find that they will fail. It's one of the reasons they've never deployed them in Syria. It's because they're afraid that Israel has the capacity to make them ineffective. Okay, so that's kind of a catch-up strategy I don't expect. I never have expected. It's never happened in the past. I don't expect it to happen in the future. I do not expect anybody, Israel or anybody else to follow my strategic military advice. They never do. And it's not likely that it's going to start now. It's sad, I think, because if they had after 9-11, we wouldn't be in a position we are right now. If they had in the various wars with the Gaza Strip in the past, we wouldn't be in a position we are today. If they had going back to the 1982-11 in war, they wouldn't be in a position that they are today. But my fate in life is to ultimately not be listened to by the decision-makers. But it's okay. What we're doing this for is the very long run and I am inspired by the support I'm getting from you guys and by how many people are joining this channel, how many people are following us as a consequence of the strong moral stand that I and the Iron Man Institute are staking in. I'm happy for Nikos that his video is doing so well on the Israeli. These are the ideas that I've been promoting for a long, long, long time. And I'm glad to see Leonard Picoff has been promoting for a long, long time and Uncle Gathe has been promoting for a long, long time. And I'm glad to see them being picked up by other intellectuals and having massive success out there in terms of numbers and views and so on. Hopefully one day all that will translate into actual influence on decision-makers in the world. All right. Quickly, here's some strategic questions that I'll quickly answer. What could a long-lasting solution look like? If you were Prime Minister for the next decade, what would you do? Again, I would devastate Iran. I would devastate Lebanon. I would try to get Lebanese civilians out of southern Lebanon, south of the Litani River. And I would devastate everything between the Israeli border and the Litani River. You know, you've got to get rid of the Hezbollah threat. I would do everything in my power to assassinate the spiritual leader of Hezbollah, Nasrallah, who is in Lebanon, and the entire Hezbollah leadership. They need to die. They need to stop being an element of force for evil in the world and a threat to Israel. Iran needs to be stopped. So the strategic goal needs to be to eliminate the Iranian threat, whether Israel can do that on its own or whether it's going to need American help. But Iran's nuclear capacity is going to have to be crushed. Its ability to produce revenue, money needs to be crushed. That means the oil terminals on the Persian Gulf need to be destroyed so Iran cannot export any oil. And it's a leadership. It's religious. A fanatical leadership needs to be overturned, whether that is from the outside by eliminating the government offices and government positions and government buildings in Tehran or elsewhere in Iran, or whether that is through the fermentation of a revolution within Iran. I think the second would be a better thing. But the Iranian mullahs need to go. So the long-term strategy has to be the elimination of Iran as a threat in the Middle East. And I think Israel and the United States have a strategic interest in seeing this happen. If that happens, Syria changes. If that happens, Iraq changes. The number one villain in the Middle East right now is the Iranian regime. And as long as that regime is still around the worst elements, I mean you saw Saudi Arabia, what's peace with Israel, kind of a lot of other countries, one peace with Israel, Iran is what's stopping the rest of the Middle East from at least succumbing to some kind of deal with the Israelis. So I hope that out of this comes a long-term strategy to completely eviscerate the regime, basically to see regime change in Iran. How that happens, I don't care. And ideally it happens through internal revolutions. Ideally it happens by Iranians deposing their own corrupt and horrific leadership. So let's see. Instead of giving Iran money, instead of doing prison exchanges with Iran in the United States, should increase pressure on Iran and should resolve the nuclear issue with Iran simply by bombing every single facility in Iran that has any chance, any small probability, any tiny likelihood of producing nuclear material that can be used for a bomb. So I think that is the core, the key and that is the most strategic goal ultimately. In terms of Hamas and in terms of West Bank and Gaza, I really don't think long-term that a one-state solution is feasible. I think that Israel needs to go into the West Bank and go to Gaza and basically take away all their weapons and basically pacify. The first thing that has to happen is both areas need to be completely pacified. They need to be placed under military regime, military authority that does not allow any use of weapons that restricts to the extent that restricts movements and restricts freedom to the extent that is necessary in order to pacify the area. After that, I think Israel needs to go through a long, slow process of figuring out how to deal with these three to four million Palestinians whether that means some kind of formation of a Palestinian state. Although I've never thought that was a reasonable solution given how small, whether it's to pay them to leave Israel. Some of them might be willing to be paid to go to Jordan or to go elsewhere, maybe a deal, a whole regional deal can be made to resettle some of the Palestinians in some places. And then those who remain to integrate them into Israeli society. Now this is not a 10-year process. It's probably a 20-year process. It's at least one generation. And over that generation, Israel has to be committed to a free, liberal, liberal in the classical liberal sense, country that provides equal rights to its citizens, but that is committed to integrating everybody who lives in this territory into Israel. The alternative is for Egypt to take over Gaza. That is highly unlikely that Egypt will agree. I think Israel would hand them over Gaza tomorrow if they'd agreed to do it. Again, potentially to resettle some of the Palestinians in Gaza, maybe they can resettle some of the Palestinians in Gaza in the Sinai Desert or in other areas in Egypt. Again, I doubt Egypt wants that headache, but that needs to be strategic. Within 20 years, the Palestinian issue is resolved, finished, resolved. There's either some kind of small Palestinian state in which they live peacefully or they have been somehow integrated into Israeli society. Those of them who are left. Wouldn't the complete takeover of the territories mean a conflict with Russia and other countries that would result in a bigger threat to Israel? No, I don't think so. I don't think Russia is interested in a conflict with Israel. Russia has its hands full right now in Ukraine. Russia is not capable and does not have the military capabilities to fight two wars, certainly not with an advanced country. Now, again, if Russia wants to use nukes, that would put them in direct conflict with the United States. I do think the United States is committed to keeping Israel safe from nukes. But remember, Israel has nukes. Israel would not just accept. Israel also has missile defense systems. Israel is just not going to wall over to a Russian threat. It does not want a war with Russia. We don't want it. But why would Russia intervene in a war over the Palestinians? I mean, what Russia might do is it might stop the Iranians from engaging and participating out of fear that Israel would get involved in Syria and weaken a Russian ally. But Russia is much more likely to turn on the Iranians than it is to start a war with Israel. There's just zero incentive for it to do that. Same with China. There's just no incentive for these countries to get engaged in this conflict in a serious way. As it is, I think the response of Russia to this conflict has increased the probability of military aid from Israel going to Ukraine after this conflict is over, which would make Ukraine much stronger, much more powerful. Imagine an Iron Dome-like technologies in Ukraine, other anti-missile technologies. I think that's much more likely after the way Russia has responded to what has happened. So no, I don't think Russia has any incentives. And now you never know what Putin granted, but I don't think it's going to happen. And again, I think the strong positioning of the US military in the Eastern Mediterranean, I give about incredible credit for doing that. I'm not sure at all that Trump would have done that, is a strong signal to the Russians to stay out of this. Should Israel go to war with Iran? What about the risk it will bring about? Should Israel bomb targets in Qatar? Will the response be like in the Western Arab world? I think Israel should go to war with Iran. I think Israel is at war with Iran. We just don't want to admit it. It's the same as the United States has been at war with Iran. We just haven't wanted to admit it since 1979. But I think Israel should find a way to get the United States engaged with it. In that war with Iran, a war which the United States seems to try to avoid at all costs since 1979, but it needs to do it, it needs to finish it, it needs to engage it. The Iranians have been at war with us for that long. But Israel is at war with Iran. It needs to recognize that and it needs to do whatever it can to destroy Iran's capabilities to be at war with Israel. And again, I think this is the time to get Western, particularly American support for that and help for that, particularly from the air and particularly just let Israel use the airspace. Should Israel bomb targets in Qatar? I don't think directly. I don't think it should send airplanes to bomb. But I think it should figure out where the Hamas leadership is staying in Qatar, is living in Qatar, and they should eliminate them. That could be with an airstrike. It could be with a plant of a bomb. It could be just assassination. But the idea that these Hamas leaders are living it up in, by the way, there was a tweet issued by the Four Seasons Hotel chain saying that they guarantee that the Hamas leadership is not staying at a Four Seasons hotel. I guess they're worried about a bomb in their hotel. You know, they need to minimize collateral damage here, but it has to be clear that the people that the Hamas leadership in Qatar is a legitimate target, will be killed, they should let the Qataris know. We're coming, we're coming. The Americans won't like this because America has this joint defense agreement with Qatar and it has its big bases in Qatar. It's invested gazillions of dollars in Qatar. The United States should leave Qatar. It should have left Qatar a long, long time ago. Qatar was funding ISIS as the U.S. was launching missions against ISIS from Qatar airfields. The hypocrisy, just the horror of what America is doing in the Middle East is unthinkable. It's for another time. But the United States needs to leave Qatar tomorrow, yesterday. Forget the billions you've invested in there. Get everything out of there. Move it to Saudi Arabia, move it to Dubai, move it to Israel. But get it out of Qatar. Qatar is an enemy. It's not a friend. Qatar is a sponsor of terrorism. Qatar is an ally of Iran. Qatar funded ISIS, funded al-Qaeda and is funding Hamas and is harboring Hamas criminals. So America needs to stop playing this stupid game with the Qataris. It is ridiculous. And again, this is not me saying something new. I've been saying this since basically 9-11 or as soon as the realization of what was going on in Qatar became evident to me. What are the long-term scenarios of Israel takes the path that you're recommending? Peace. Peace. I mean, that's the thing. You know, that's the thing about peace from strength. You cannot attain peace. Peace will not come until the Iranian regime is destroyed. Peace will not come until the Palestinians have recognized, admitted, internalized a completely conscious of the fact that they've lost, that they cause has no possibility, no success. You know, peace can only come from victory. Israeli victory over the Arab world does not require World War III. It does not require nuclear weapons. It just requires Israel to do what is necessary to win. But you can't get peace without victory. Again, I've been saying that since 9-11. You want peace in the Middle East? Make it clear that Israel cannot lose. That America will not lose. All right, I've gone on too long. So let's do quickly. This is really Palestinian. This is a very brief history. So granted, you know, we can talk about this some more. You can ask questions about this. We can talk about it in the future. But, you know, we've got somewhat limited time today. So let me go through the highlights of the Israeli-Palestinian history and conflict and what exactly happened. Starting in the late 19th century. Small numbers of Jews in Europe, primarily Eastern Europe to begin with. As a consequence of the programs in Russia and Ukraine and other parts of Eastern Europe. Jews in Eastern Europe were looking fun out. And a certain number of them, primarily Jews who were socialists and tended to be on the left, chose to start immigrating to Palestine. Palestine at the time was occupied by the Turks. Let's be very clear here. There's never been a Palestine. The area that is today Israel was part of the Roman Empire. It then became part of the Byzantine Empire. It was occupied by the Byzantine. It was dominated by Christians during this period. Almost all the wealthy families in this region in the Middle East became Christian. As a consequence of Rome's, Constantine's conversion to Christianity. Rome's embrace of Christianity as its national religion. And then most of them converted to Islam when Muslim conquered this area and took it over. You know, started in the, I guess the 7th century. And since then it has been dominated by a variety of different Islamic empires. You know, parts of Israel, what today is Israel, were occupied by the Egyptians. There were periods in which it was occupied by, the first Islamic empire was based in Damascus. I think, and they ruled. And then the next Islamic empire was based in Iraq. After that the Islamic empires were fragmented. But starting in the god, I think the 16th century. Basically the Turks who had emigrated into this area and occupied, talk about occupation. Talk about colonization. I wonder why the anti-colonials don't attack Turkey for colonizing the Asia Minor. For colonizing the area that is Turkey. I mean it was basically a Turkish tribe. Turkish tribe means a tribe from Central Asia, not far from where Mongolia is. Where Turkmenistan is today, that's where the Turks are still dominant in Turkmenistan. So the Turks moved into this area, dominated this area and ultimately created the Ottoman empire. And again, think about that. Think about the fact that the real colonizers of the Middle East were the Turks. And nobody talks about Turkey as a colonizing power, a colonizing entity. Why? Because it happened 600 years ago. Is it a matter of when you colonized? If you colonized in a distant past, it's okay. But in modern past, it's not okay. When do you recognize native populations? When do you discard them? When does everybody become part of the colony? It's all irrational. The whole anti-colonial movement is an irrational movement that can't define itself. Anyway, and I'm starting way earlier than I intended to. But the reality is that in the 19th century, for hundreds of years, the territory that is Israel today was a part of the Ottoman empire. And the part that is Israel today was always part of an empire. The last state that existed in this area was a Jewish state that it rebelled against the Roman empire and survived until the Romans crushed it. I think it's 70 AD. It destroyed the Jewish temple and basically took all the Jews who lived in this area and spread them around the Roman empire. This is part of how Rome diffused local ethnic challenges as they took those ethnic communities and separated them from their land and diffused them all over the empire, thus not allowing them to coalesce around an opposition and a rebellion. So the last state that existed in what is today Israel was a Jewish state. Again, it resulted from the rebellion against the Romans and that rebellion was crushed in 70 AD. From 70 AD until, and the Jews were not asked to leave. They were forced to leave. If you go to the Ark de Triomphe, the Triumphant Ark, the Roman Ark, where they have, there are arcs like this where they've edged the story, you can find, you can see Jewish slaves, Jewish captives being brought to Rome after their rebellion was crushed in 70 AD and look, that was wrong. So that territory was occupied by empires. There was no state. So there is no such thing as an ancient Palestinian state. There is no such thing as an ancient Arab state. There were never any Arab states. They were always, always, always throughout history. Parts of various empires. That's a reality in much of Europe. A lot of the states that exist in Europe, there were no such states historically, they were always parts of empires. Anyway, Israel in the 19th century was sparsely populated, sparsely populated. It was, there were a lot of swamps. Half of Israel to this day is desert. And, you know, it was not very habitable. It was not very, it was not great land because of the swamps, because of the heat, the humidity. The coast where Tel Aviv is today was just sand. It was very difficult. You couldn't grow anything on it. And you, nobody built anything on it. There was Jaffa, it was a city. There was Akko city. There was a small settlement in Haifa. There was a settlement in Haifa, an Arab settlement in Haifa. And inland, Jerusalem and others, there were larger Arab settlements. But basically, the place was very sparsely populated. So in the late 19th century, when Jews decided they had to leave Europe, some of them went to America and some of them went, their ancestors went to South Africa, although at least one of my, two of my ancestors went to South Africa through what was then Palestine. Jews started emigrating with the Ottoman Empire's permission because they had to get permission emigrating into Palestine. And the only way they could emigrate into Palestine was by buying land, settling that land, cultivating that land, starting to build a small industry and starting to build up the land in small, the first Kibbutzim were established during this period of time. But this is a period of time where small groups of Jews are starting to enter. And already some of the Arab population embraced this, but some of the Arab population was resisting this and there were some cases of violence and there was a lot of political angst. And there were various pressures being brought on the Ottoman Empire in Istanbul about whether to allow the Jews in or not. Generally, the Jews were being money, they were buying land, they were cultivating swamps, they were building stuff up. Ottomans were not objecting because this was profitable for everybody involved. In 1897, the first Zionist Congress was held. This was a Congress of Jews in Europe committed to establishing a Jewish state. Some of the people there, including the leader of the Zionist movement, Theodor Herzl, were committed to establishing a Jewish state wherever that might be and he actually accepted a British offer to do it in Uganda, but the rest of the Congress voted it down. So they basically committed to establishing a Jewish state in Palestine, which was again relatively likely populated. So that was in 1897. They lobbied the Ottomans, they lobbied the British to try to find solutions. During World War I, it became the Ottoman Empire, for those of you who don't know, the Empire sided with the Axis powers, with basically Germany. And as a consequence, it became an enemy of the British and enemy of the United States and the British as part of World War I, which was not only fought in Europe, but it was also fought in the Middle East. Basically the British conquered all of the Ottoman Empire in the Middle East. They ultimately occupied Turkey, they took over Iraq and Saudi Arabia, and if you've watched the Law on Saudi Arabia, you know some of this. So they occupied all this territory and they were in constant negotiations with the different families, the different tribes, the different elements. By the way, the French were also there, so the French occupied Lebanon and much of Syria. So this was kind of an allied occupation. But it was a consequence of a war where Turkey had sided, the Ottoman Empire had sided with the particular elements. Again, people talk about, ooh, the British occupied it, they were colonizing it. No, I mean they fought a war, you could argue it was started by the Axis. Turkey made a wrong call by backing the losing side and its empire got occupied by the British, but the Turks were occupiers to begin with. You know, they were an empire and the British now had an empire. So the English, the British occupied this without any intent to stay there. Ultimately, they left the Middle East completely. And again, if you take my course on the history of the Middle East, you will get a lot more detail on all of this. They gave up Iraq and Syria and they drew up maps and they handed different pieces of the Middle East to different families. And that's why the Saud family got Saudi Arabia, the Hussein family got Jordan and other parts of that family got Iraq, Syria, and then that didn't work so they moved them to Iraq and then that didn't work either. But the British just divvied up the Middle East into different families, different tribes, different peoples and they created modern national entities which never existed. There was never Saudi Arabia. Not really. There was certainly never Jordan or Iraq or Syria or Lebanon as the British were divvying it up. And in 1917 the British declared that when they fully occupied the Middle East, they would actually allow the Jews to form a state in what is today Israel and Jordan. Over the years, afterwards, as British occupied this territory, they said, well, that's a lot of space and there were a lot of Arabs here. They eliminated Jordan from it and then they said, well, maybe we need to have two states here because there are Palestinians here. When the British took over from the Ottomans, more Jewish immigrants continued to come in and there were waves of Jewish immigrants. At some point the British became weary of this and made it very difficult for Jews to come into Palestine. When the Nazis came to power, Jews who were trying to escape the Nazis could no longer go to the United States. The United States, starting in the 1920s, early 20s, was blocked to Jewish immigration or to immigration generally into the United States. So many of them tried to come to Palestine. As part of this, the Jews created the city of Tel Aviv. On those sand dunes they created Tel Aviv. And now they were really starting to build factories, utility companies. They were drying vast quantities of swamps. They were going into the desert and ultimately figuring out how to cultivate the desert. They built up a real civilization. In the 1930s in Israel, there was a Palestinian, what was called the orchestral Palestine, which was an orchestra in Tel Aviv, which had some of the best musicians in the world, people who were escaping the Nazis from Europe and coming to British-occupied Palestine and created an orchestra. They created civilization. They respected property rights. They bought up property. The British wouldn't let them just steal property. They bought property. The Rothschilds from Europe, the rich Jewish banker family, spent a lot of money buying land in Israel and giving it to settlers, allowing Kibbutzim and other kind of settlements to be formed. Jews settled, created Tel Aviv. There was nothing in Tel Aviv. Zero is just sand. But they also settled in Jerusalem, settled in the south in the desert. They settled in Haifa. They settled in Galilee. They settled all over around the Sea of Galilee. They settled all over the Caribbean, everywhere they went. They built, they created, they made. They were productive. As a consequence, the economy of this part of the world thrived during this period. And as a consequence of that, there were a lot of jobs available. And as a consequence of that, many Arabs from Lebanon, from Syria, from Jordan, even from Egypt and maybe from even further away moved into Palestine. A lot of the Palestinians who today call themselves Palestinians. Now, I don't really care about this, but a few generations back, were immigrants into this place, which is cool. I'm all for that. I have no problem with that. But it's just historically important to note that the Jews came in and they didn't steal people's property. Both the Ottomans and the British required them to buy property if they were going to live somewhere, or they took over pieces of property that were not being used. They were not owned by anybody. This is, you know, reality nobody out there wants to actually acknowledge. Jews were the productive element here. Now, I'm not saying the Arabs were not. Some Arabs were. Some were not. But many of the Arabs came in and became laborers in the factories, in the fields, small business owners, contractors. Because of the economic activity in Israel, drew them in throughout this period under the British mandate. So Britain was granted a mandate by the League of Nations and then the United Nations to occupy this territory in the Middle East and ultimately to hand it over to the people living there. And during this entire period, the English were first committed to a Jewish state. Then they said, well, there need to be two states. But ultimately, oh, so yeah, so during this period at the same time, there was real growing conflict. The Arabs started attacking Jews. They did so in the teens and the 20s and the 30s. They objected to Jewish migration coming in. They objected to all this economic activity created by the Jews. They objected by the dominance, if you will, of Jews in this area and their expansion and their success and their progress. And they fought it. They stepped in and they used violence to fight it. And the Jews defended themselves. During this period in Israel, there were military organizations. You might even argue one of them or two of them were terrorists. Organizations were founded both to protect Jews because they felt like the English were not protecting them, to protect Jews against the Arabs. And then to drive the British out. So there was a huge emphasis starting certainly in the late 30s and then in the 40s, particularly with what was going on in Europe and the Nazis and the Holocaust and the Jewish population formed a state. And the intent originally was was to form one state with Jews and Arabs all there. But obviously, the British didn't believe this was tenable and ultimately the British took it to the United Nations and said you solve this problem. In I think November 1947, the Security Council of the United Nations met and they decided a two-state solution was the answer. Jordan was already a state and now the idea was to split Israel into two states and a Palestinian state and an Arab state and a Jewish state. The Jewish state was kind of split into three tiny little corridors connecting it. It was not a particularly viable solution. It was it was going to mean big population moves. Some Arabs would have to move from the Jewish state to an Arab state. Some Jews would have to move from the Arab state to a Jewish state if you wanted to do ethnic cleansing, which I think the UN expected would happen. But the reality of the situation was that in 1947 in November 1947, the people running all the Jewish organizations and the population were broadly accepted them. They said, yes, we'll take it. We'll take whatever you can give us. We've been waiting for, in a sense, a Jewish state for 2,000 years. We'll take what you give us. And they accepted and literally you can see photos of this dancing on the street the next day. The Arab countries and the Arab Palestinian population in the area said absolutely not. There will never be a Jewish state in this area. We will kill them. We will drive them to sea. We will slaughter every single one of them. And that's explicitly what they said. Again, the historical documents are unequivocal. And the next day fighting began. And fighting continued until May of 1948 when the British basically said, you know what, we can't handle this situation. We're losing people. We can't fulfill what the UN wanted. We can't establish two states here. There is a war going on all around us. We're leaving. We're just leaving. And they did. They left in May of 1948. Israel on the day the mandate ended on the day the British left declared the independence of a Jewish state that same day the armies of seven different Arab countries invaded. Not to establish a Palestinian state. No Arab nation had any intent to establish a Palestinian state. They all wanted a piece of it. Jordan wanted Jerusalem. The Egyptians wanted the Sinai. They wanted the desert areas which were very strategic to them. They wanted to control the entire Red Sea. The Iraqis just sent troops to kill just because they wanted the elimination of Jews from the Middle East. The Syrians wanted northern Israel. They wanted the Galilee. The Lebanese wanted a piece of the Galilee. They basically all wanted a piece. Israel fought them off. It fought them off and actually expanded its territory from what the UN had promised and established a state in that territory. And really you know so this whole thing from beginning and I would say to end was caused by the Palestinians and caused by the Arabs and their unwillingness to accept a Jewish state an Israeli state a state that is not Muslim and not Islamic in the territory that is today Israel. That's it. There was an armistice signed in 1949 which did not recognize the existence of the State of Israel between Israel and all those seven Arab armies. During the war during the 1947 well mainly 1948 many Arabs were displaced from their homes. Most of the Arabs most an overwhelming majority of the Arabs who were displaced left because the Arab armies that were invading Israel told them to leave so that they would have no collateral damage so they could wipe out the Jews and then invite them back in. So many of them left the Lebanon to Jordan to the West Bank to Gaza they left and they did. Now, I'm not denying that in some cases certain Israeli units massacred Arabs. It happened. These things happen in war. I'm not denying that in certain cases Arabs were thrown out of their homes usually justifiably because they were in border areas sometimes unjustifiably massacres the number of massacres the Muslims competed against Jews far exceeded far far far exceeded any number of massacres that the Jews again massacres and gratuitous violence is never appropriate never right never just but there's no moral high ground that the Arabs have here even though Israel might have committed certain things that they shouldn't have done. 1949 the Palestinians held back. They lost the war. They initiated force against the Israelis and they lost the war and they were not invited back to their homes. Israel's not going to invite in an element that would be hostile to its very existence. Israel repeatedly invite for peace whether it's the king Hussein in Jordan or the king and then Nasser in Egypt who wanted to live in peace the Arabs ignored it. During the 1950s out of the Gaza Strip and Egypt these were territories held by Egypt they continued to be terrorist attacks into Israel. So when in 1956 the French and the British you know paratrooped troops into the Suez Canal Israel joined in in order to eradicate the terrorist threat occupied the Sinai and went all the way to the Suez Canal ultimately in 1957 it gave back the Sinai gave back the Gaza Strip under a deal where the Egyptian army would be banned from being in in the Sinai and the terrorist stop, terrorist attack stop. Terrorism continued from all kinds of sources ultimately the Palestinians who, well anyway in 1967 the Nasser got rid of the UN in the Sinai Desert and brought in Syrian troops he amassed them on the Israeli border Syria started lobbing bombs from the Golan Heights into Israel and amassing troops from the Golan Heights ready for an invasion Israel preempted both Egypt and Syria in June of 1967 beginning of the Six Day War it told, it begged Jordan not to intervene Jordan decided to launch its own war against Israel as a consequence of that war Israel took the Gaza Strip, the Sinai Desert and the West Bank over not because it wanted to but because it was forced to as an act of self-defense as a consequence of this it now gained millions of Palestinians who were hostile to its existence now there is no doubt in my mind in 1967 and 1987 Israel made a number of strategic mistakes that might, which have not been made, they might have been some way to settle the dispute between Palestinians and Israelis but it was very difficult for Israel to maneuver because the Palestinians were being ruled not by people living in the West Bank and Gaza but by Yasir al-Fad and a variety of different Soviet funded and Soviet backed leftist, primarily leftist Islamist, mainly leftist terrorist organizations all over the world and all over the Middle East they continued to commit terrorist attacks not so much in Israel but all over the world you remember the Munich attacks the attack against high school kids I remember this because it was kids a little bit older than me and I was listening on the radio to every moment of that the hostage shaking of the kids the murder of those children through the 60s and 1970s terrorist attack after terrorist attack hijacking of airplanes murder of civilians, murder of children over and over and over and over again once in a while there was a little bit of an uprising in Gaza and Israel dealt with it militarily but generally as I said before Palestinians worked inside of Israel they had freedom of movement inside of Israel but there was constant pressure deal, deal, deal and by the way quickly and again you do this history and you never do it justice because there's so many details and you have to go into so many details and I don't know that we have the time but in 1970 in 1970 Jordan got fed up with the Palestinian refugees in Jordan they were creating havoc, they were committing terrorist attacks they were threatening the Jordanian monarchy they were threatening the rule of law in Jordan and Jordan basically launched a war against the Palestinians inside Jordan and as a consequence of that they kicked all the Palestinians out of Jordan nobody has wanted these Palestinians certainly none of the Arab countries are one of them those Palestinians moved to Lebanon and they settled primarily in Beirut but all over Lebanon in refugee camps around Lebanon while in London, in Lebanon these Palestinians romantic and ultimately launched a civil war between Muslims and Christians and Jews inside Lebanon that started in the early 1970s as these refugees were leaving Jordan and moving to Lebanon Lebanon couldn't kick them out they didn't have the military force to do it they were backed by the Shiites which today have become Hezbollah and that civil war erupted at the same time the Palestinian Liberation Army organization was building an army in southern Lebanon they were recruiting people they were getting weapons again from the Soviet Union, from other Arab countries and they were literally building an army in the south of Israel in 1978 I think Israel invaded southern Lebanon after they had artillery shells they had been bombarded the Palestinians the PLO had kidnapped Israeli troops and again I might get the exact details of this wrong but after significant harassment i.e. the initiation of force by the Palestinians Israel invaded southern Lebanon and retreated from it the Palestinians just came right back and this time they built several times a bigger force thousands of troops heavy weapons systems and at the same time Syria in the name of helping to stop the civil war in Lebanon entered the Barqa Valley which is in the southeast of Lebanon and had troops there and in 1982 after again border conflicts and missiles and bombs and shelling and the murder of Israelis Israel decided to invade southern Lebanon to get rid of the PLO it did, it invaded it destroyed the capacity to wage war so it occupied all of southern Lebanon all the way to Beirut and it was about to invade western Beirut and kill Yasser Arafat and the 6000 remaining troops that he had when the United States Ronald Reagan stepped in and said no gave Yasser Arafat and his troops safe patches out now this turned to be a massive strategic mistake by the United States Yasser Arafat then stayed the lead of the Palestinian movement from 1982 on and ultimately a deal with Yasser Arafat called the Oslo Accords which gave, which brought him back to the West Bank gave him basically policing power gave him some semblance of autonomy and continued to negotiate a deal with him those negotiations went from 1993 to 2000 without much resolution there was a famous meeting in 2000 where Huud Barak and Yasser Arafat put a deal on the table that basically he gave Yasser Arafat 90% of what he wanted 92% of the land he wanted and many of the other things that he wanted Yasser Arafat said no Israel said where's your counter Yasser Arafat refused to counter presented no counter offer the card administration tried to negotiate something nothing worked Yasser Arafat went back home after getting 92% of what he wanted said the Jews must go they must be eliminated and that was the launch of the Second Intifada which lasted like four years thousands of Israelis killed in the most horrific nature bombing of buses, bombing of restaurants indiscriminately children civilians almost all civilians soldiers were kidnapped murdered and tortured just horror like Shalom was prime minister at that time he got tough on occasion but mostly was pretty weak and the administration kept restraining Israel and stopping it from doing what was necessary but generally Israel was super weak during this time by the way the First Intifada was launched in 1987 it was mainly rock throwing it wasn't a lot of terrorism things really deteriorated the real deterioration the real rise in terrorism inside Israel was a consequence of the Oslo Accord I remember I was on the phone with my parents after the Oslo Accord was signed Israel will pay a heavy heavy heavy price for what they have just done you cannot appease evil you cannot negotiate evil there is no peace with evil and sadly I was right sadly I was right I wish I had recorded that phone call because it would have been interesting they were like no no it's peace this is great yes in the 90's it was both Clinton and Jimmy Carter until in 1978 I think in the 80's and that's since then there have been several wars in Gaza under Bibi Netanyahu's prime minister that Israel's bomb gone in a little bit done nothing they re-armed themselves same thing in Lebanon there was a big war in 2006 there have been other skirmishes since then and what we are experiencing today is that now this is not a story about tit for tat this is not a story about evil occupiers this is not a story about well the Palestinians have something there this is overwhelmingly a story and I know this sounds polyanish but this is overwhelmingly a story about Jews coming settling, civilizing building industrializing creating, making a country making a state they made a state they created a state by building it, by creating by being productive and by making it democratic and making it relatively free relatively free relatively right respecting in the same sense as any and the west is right respecting and a population a native population that partially is native because they came because of all the economic activity and native population that is murderous, hostile resentful refuses to accept that Jews can live in this place refuses to accept what they built and what created and since then again Israel has done things wrong and primarily being too weak not being tough enough with the Palestinians Israel has been at war with the Palestinians since 1987 but certainly since the second interfata it refuses to win that war it refuses to bring the Palestinians to their knees or to defeat and as a consequence the Palestinians keep rising back and the latest thing from Hamas the latest horror from Hamas is just them rising up again expecting a meek shallow response from the Israelis and everything will go back to normal and then they'll rise up again and it just continues like that now we can get into much more detail in any one of those things but that is fundamentally in the key points in principles and look from 1948 until today is those built to country not just before that but after again a relatively rights respecting a country that protects its civilians a country where Arabs are free to live and live freely make money their property rights are respected again not perfectly but pretty damn well a country where there's free speech including criticizing the government including advocating for Palestinian rights all of that this is a conflict with clear as much as you can in history as much as you can in world affairs clear good guys and clear bad guys clear good and clear evil and the history bears it out the factual history bears it out now let me warn you there's a ton of revisionism if you look at history from Wikipedia to all the networks that everybody else have presented it is unbelievably biased it is not historically accurate it white washes what the Palestinians have done taints Israel in these horrible colors if you look at the books that leftist academics mainly academics that leftists have written about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict they're dramatically tilted towards the Palestinians but the reality is the facts are this is not some difficult conflict this is about as clear as conflicts that last generations go in terms of who the good guys and who the bad guys are and I challenge anybody to go and actually study and look at the facts and look at what happened and read up about it and really analyze it and come to a different conclusion I doubt that anybody honest does that and when you hear people like the left like the new right like the libertarians argue otherwise it's almost some of it is ignorance they just don't know most of it is just evil intent an evasion which is also evil in and of itself so either evasion or bad intent and that's why I don't have much tolerance for them it's not like I need to educate them if only I said these things in a calmer voice if only I gave them a few more numbers if I just gave them a few more dates if I articulated this a little differently they would get it that is not the case the conclusions that I see people coming to that Dave Smith came to that so many others on Twitter and elsewhere are coming to these are not good intentions these are not good people valid disagreements these are not innocent people who don't really understand these are people who are committed either to evading facts because they don't like them or they're committed to presenting wrong facts that way because their hatred is much more substantial so you can pretend to somebody like Dave oh he's not as bad as you are on presented if only you want to be calmer there's only presented it a little bit better a little nicer Dave is exactly what I said he was and the arguments I made were exactly accurate and listening to just a half of his criticism of me just reinforced everything that I say and by the way when you equate America to the Soviet Union you're basically saying America is worse you're not raising the Soviet Union up you're lowering the United States the whole idea of multiculturalism and I've accused this of the left the whole idea of multiculturalism is not to raise up other cultures it's to diminish your culture it's to hate on your culture it's not like the Gallitarian left believes that western civilization is just the same as African tribes no they think we are worse they'll never say that but that's the whole point of lowering it now Dave might actually believe in some bizarre way that oh Palestinians and Israelis are the same but no what he really thinks what the motivating to even say that is that he hates Israel otherwise you can't explain you can't explain the obvious unequivocal perceptual level evidence and historical evidence and everything reality that shows that they're not equal there has to be some motivation and the motivation has to be negative it has to be hatred it's not like Dave Smith loves the Palestinians and therefore it's that he hates Israel and therefore finds what to evade and finds what to emphasize and finds in order to diminish it they do exactly the same this is why I call them America haters they do exactly the same thing to America they hate America, they're anti-American that's why I called what's his name Woods and all these guys anti-American because they are because by diminishing America they are purposefully consciously evading all the things that make this country a great country it's not a mistake these people are not stupid it requires and the evidence this requires just like it requires on the left mass evasion Scott you would never say oh the left must be just mistaken they're just mistaken they don't get it now you have to judge people based on what they believe you have to judge people based on the ideas that they hold and if you condemn these kind of ideas on the left then you must condemn these kind of ideas on the libertarian side now anyway everything I said again I repeat I said about Dave, everything I said about the libertarians I stand by I watched half, I can't stomach the rest half of Dave Smith's critique of what I said it's bullshit it's just bullshit and again he reaffirms in it oh I didn't say that Israel was just as bad as the Palestinian as Hamas, I just said in the same statement that Hamas is evil and Israel did evil and so does Israel that doesn't equate them doesn't make them exactly the same God, the stupidity of people alright let's see remind everybody that the Einwand Institute is a sponsor of this show to get all the commentary that the Einwand Institute is making on the Israel-Israeli Hamas war go to Einwand.org slash start here and you'll get all that there and please do so and please support the Einwand Institute anywhere you can and thank you to Einwand Institute for supporting the Iran Book Show alright um let's see let's see what I want to do so we've got we've got a bunch of a lot of questions I'm going to go over them I'll start with John with a hundred dollars thank you for the moral clarity you bring to this important issue thank you John really appreciate the support and appreciate the comment James says commodities go up and down in wartime do you think oil and gas will keep fluctuating over the next few years of finally stabilizing will the West, specific Canada, the US Norway start to drill and become less dependent on the Middle East and Russia look the US today is a net exporter of oil so it's not like we're dependent but the oil market is a global market if there's risk that Israel or the United States bomb the oil facilities of the Iranians then you know oil is going to fluctuate and you're going to be worried because even though there's an embargo on Iranian oil and Russian oil it doesn't matter because they are buyers India buys other countries buy South American countries buy and the point is that it's a global market the price is set in a global market and even though America produces more oil than it consumes the prices are still going to fluctuate based on supply and demand in a global market and that supply and demand is going to continue to fluctuate partially because a war is going to reduce global economic activity if it reduces global economic activity that will reduce demand for oil at the same time there's a real threat that if Iranian facilities get destroyed the supply of oil will diminish and that will cause prices to go up but on the other hand the Saudis might take advantage of the fact that we hit the Iranian facilities and increase the amount of oil that they produce look you know America will be producing more oil in five years than we do today yes I hope Canada and Norway do the same although Norway I just don't know but certainly the United States will because I think there's a lot of they're not massively investing in oil production in the US but there is investment going on it is happening so volatility is to be expected because there are no loans the demand side and the supply side and their interaction creates complexity and uncertainty creates volatility Amin again thanks for being here $200 thank you Amin we stand with Israel and the Jewish people thank you Amin Amin is originally from Iran but he's an American now our heart especially goes out to the hostages and their families last few months alright some $20 questions Catherine thanks so much for the inspiration and comfort at this time I appreciate it Catherine thank you Jennifer thank you Iran for being a voice of reason in a world gone mad I appreciate that Mary says thank you thank you Mary thank you to all of you guys for showing appreciation it really means a lot to me Brady this conflict has made me a little libertarian good I was actually going to register as a delegate to the libertarian party before this but the response of this has been too pathetic for me to do that remember to Ukraine let's not forget Ukraine and Russia and the libertarians response to Ukraine it's all part of their anti-West anti-American anti-freedom you know the sympathies to Russia the sympathies to Hamas the sympathies to the Palestinians you know betray betray who and what they really are Andrew what do you think would happen if you said to a leftist or libertarian point black that he's a moral coward for equating Palestinians with Israel I said that on twitter at least would it shake him into the truth or would he just continue to be he'd be offended and he'd argue and he'd call me all the names that they're calling me on twitter right now so no it wouldn't it wouldn't cause him I can see it because I'm doing it all the time on twitter it doesn't cause them to question I am inspired by Brady and others who I've seen who are leaving the libertarian party because of what the libertarians are standing for that is inspiring Mark thank you for the hundred dollars thanks for the history lesson helpful and good to see a consistency good versus evil in this history but I can go to Israel right now and have a good life I can't go to any Islamic regime yes, at the end of the day it is that simple and here I really really encourage all of you to read Elan's book What Justice Demands and he shows exactly that the fundamental key to understanding the difference between Israel and Palestine is observable in life today you can go to the Palestinian Authority you can go to Gaza Strip where they've basically been autonomous completely autonomous since 2006 and you can see what life is like there for the Palestinians how horrible it is and you can go to Israel and you can live a life like you can in America or like you can in the west and that is really to a large extent all you have to know one is a western free country the other is the most authoritarian repressive horrible regimes some of the worst on planet earth who are you going to side with who are the good guys who are the bad guys it's just straight forward as that straight forward as that and you know it's and that's all you have to know and if any of these guys who are critical of Israel were honest then they admit that but they won't they can't they hate the state Israel is terrible as I said it taxes I don't think that's an exaggeration and yeah maybe I could have made more subtle more interesting more level headed you know more level kind of arguments without being so emotional without taxes but I call it like it is and that's what it is it's exactly that and if you dig into Dave's Dave's argument that's what you see that's what you'll find Lawrence says Dave Smith thinks that NATO provoked Russia's invasion of Ukraine of course he does Dave Smith thinks whatever Russia says whatever Russian propaganda argues he's not going to buy into it and he's going to be a historical he's never going to read what Putin actually writes he's never going to dig into what Dugan stands for he's never he has no interest in understanding Russian philosophy he has no interest because Ukraine is associated with Europe and European Union they're evil they're bad they're a state as I said they tax they don't protect our rights and war is bad and NATO is bad and NATO is backed by the United States the United States there it is again fomenting war all over the world any way the United States touches is evil and disaster and no I don't hate the United States I'm not anti-U.S. but the reality is that the United States always creates war and always creates disaster everywhere it goes so the support of Ukraine must mean that Russia are the good guys there you go I mean that's the logic and if you dig down you'll see I'm making it into a caricature but that's exactly how they think they are so motivated they are so obsessed with the anti-American anti-western anti-Israeli anti-state mentality that they will always side with evil against good well maybe I'm exaggerating maybe not always but often and most of the time alright some reason to stop working let me reload give me a second I have to redo this one give me a second this softmail wants me to restart stuff select all continue alright there we go alright Ayin Mirkat says I hear Israel is allowing water into southern Gaza again incredibly sad glad I live in Poland furthermore in my opinion Gaza must be destroyed yeah I talked about that the early part of the show supposedly they're allowing water into southern part of Gaza in order to encourage people in the north of Gaza to move this so they can flatten northern Gaza with minimal civilian casualties black cat 997 sorry if this was asked already what are your thoughts on the unique relationship between the U.S. and Qatar given its close relationship with Iran Hamas etc we have a big military base and have been and seem to have political clout they seem to have political clout yes I mean I spoke about that earlier SENTCOM the whole command of the Middle East is stationed in Qatar we have a large air force base in Qatar we have we stake billions and billions of billions of dollars in Qatar they seem to have a lot of political power they put a lot of money into lobbying in Washington I think it's horrific I think the United States should leave tomorrow forget the investment blow it all up don't leave it like in Afghanistan for the bad guys to take Qatar is an enemy of the United States it is not a friend it's not just about Iran Hamas but Qatar was explicitly funded ISIS at the same time as U.S. planes were taking off from the airfield in Qatar to bomb ISIS so Qatar funded al-Qaeda Qatar is an explicit unequivocal enemy of the United States and the U.S. should have nothing zero zilch to do with them and they should be labeled as an enemy of the United States and the U.S. military should get out of there as quickly as possible is there one point about justice I wish the non-objective public media comprehended if there's one point about justice I wish they comprehended is that the dead Palestinians are Hamas's responsibility what do you think the main intellectual blockage to they're knowing that well you know they don't want to declare one side good and one side evil they don't want to declare one side is starting the one one side is responsible and one side is not they don't want to take signs they want to have their moral equivalency they don't want to make moral judgments so if a Palestinian kills somebody it's a Palestinian's fault if an Israeli kills somebody it's an Israeli fault to hell with context tell with how it's done tell with self defense tell with all of those it's just simpler it's more concrete and it does not require them to do any kind of thoughtful analysis and judgment what they're avoiding what they're avoiding is moral judgment we live in a culture of moral greatness we live in a culture that rejects moral judgment even on this chat I'm supposed to be friends with my enemies I'm supposed to be friends with people who are have opinions that constitute evil opinions tell with moral judgment don't judge them they're just mistaken they're nice guys they're just making a mistake you can't morally judge we live in a culture even among objectivists where moral judgment is and Ein Rand would be flipping in a grave a central thesis of objectivism and she says this several times is judge and be ready to be judged moral judgment is at the core of this philosophy it's at the core of what justice requires it's at the core of virtue kfax, Nikos says Okan talk on Israel posted a few days ago already has 80,000 plus views that's big I hope it reaches the right audience I appreciate what you and I are doing yes it is big and the timing of that talk was perfect and he gave a good talk and I'm glad it's getting as much visibility as it does by the way if you want to help that then share it, like it, do all that stuff also I have a lot of talks on Israel going back a long time if you just google or search on YouTube you unbroke Israel you can find I've got a talk I think really interesting and worthwhile watching is a talk I gave in 2003 in the midst of the second in Nevada at the University of Pennsylvania at UPAN which was shown at the time on C-SPAN and is available on the C-SPAN website and it would be really really really cool if right now that's spiked on C-SPAN not on my channel, on C-SPAN's channel and if that's spiked in interest it was done in 2003 I say some really controversial things and the Q&A actually say if somebody asked me what should be done with Yasser Al-Fat I say Israel should find the tallest tree and hang him, this is in 2003 I think I was wearing a bulletproof vest when I said it but that is a talk that should be it should be a talk that is watched right now because it's as relevant today as it was back then oh, whoops Thomas says appreciate your work and always on point clear reasoning why are the other 19 Arab countries not interested in refugees from Gaza well because the Palestinians have not been particularly militant Palestinians have not been positive contributors to the local economies you know and look but the ultimate reason because Palestinians can be just as productive as anybody most of the Palestinians if they were accepted into these other 19 countries would become productive citizens of those countries the reality is that Arab countries want the Palestinians to be in refugee camps want them to be in crisis as a weapon against Israel as a weapon against the West as guilt against the West and it's always been that way why is the refugee camps in Lebanon this is now right so what is it 50 years and those people have not been settled they still don't have Lebanese citizenship they're still treated as third class citizens they're still not allowed to immigrate to other Arab countries this is not Israel preventing them this is Lebanon and other Arab countries doing this why? because they want to keep them as a symbol of evil Israelis as a weapon of guilt against the West that's the fundamental reason the talk is called U.S.-Israel relations on c-span so just look, Israel relations you're on book c-span and you'll find it highly recommend it, I think it's good Catherine says happy birthday Lena Pieckoff yes today is Lena Pieckoff is not just any birthday 90, that's huge huge Scott says I appreciate Rand's good for being the good but did you maybe use that slightly too casually no I consider the whole wing of the libertarian party that's affiliated with the Mises Institute which should be called the Rothbard Institute to be haters of the good for being the good you know there are a few economists maybe who kind of they're just economists and Auburn is the best place for them to do their work and stuff and they don't get involved in all this other crap that are not part of that people who support and the intellectuals who are active in the involved in cultural commentary that come out of the Van Mises Institute in Auburn Alabama are bad they are haters of the good for being the good and I'll stand by that I don't think that was too dramatic again I think they are better and caps you know I debated with Brian Kaplan I would not debate Smith I would not debate anybody affiliated with the Mises Institute I mentioned the other day that Randy Barnett who is I think considers himself an Ann Kaplan is very good on this Israeli issue and is generally a brilliant legal scholar and there are many libertarians in Cato who are really good people and good on the issues and good on some issues I might disagree with some issues but generally issues but the Mises Institute forget about anybody affiliate with them again I mean there might be some economists affiliated with them because it's the only organization they could be affiliated with but the people making cultural commentary out of the Mises Institute literally forget about them and that is the standard is human life and whether it's pro-life or anti-life and they are clearly anti-life and everything you have to complain about the left the far left is true of those kind of libertarians and when would the IDF get on with it am I I'm not a spokesman for the IDF I have no idea they should have already Stephen Harper says Ahmad Deutsch who had dedicated the second movement of a 2017 piano concerto to the deceased Israeli grandmother has posted a rededicated to the Israeli victims of Hamas on YouTube good for Ahmad Deutsch I mean she's a romantic not just in her music but I think in her spirit as well so good for Ahmad Dennis says how much knowledge does the IDF have of the area in Gaza especially with regards to tunnels and the detection of people like hostages what is the technology they use for that they use some kind of sonar technology that penetrates the ground and figures out where tunnels might exist 100 kilometers of tunnels they have intelligence but that obviously has failed there are people in Gaza they have special forces that have entered and exited and might have some knowledge they have knowledge but it's far from complete it's going to be brutal, it's going to be hard it's going to be super difficult knowledge so they've mapped it out from the sky using some kind of sonar technology special forces that they can and they've got spies inside Palestinians are working for Israel but that obviously failed in a big scale by not letting Israel know about the coming attack so hard to tell not great Michael, libertarians and ANCAP seem to be more and more threatened by your online presence this is great, you're probably being a lot of libertarians over to objectives like sustainability maybe, I don't know if any libertarians are converted because of me, maybe how is Hamas able to make tens of thousands of rockets without Israel's spy planes seeing it no, I mean everybody knew that they were making the rockets now, spy planes can't see what happens inside spy planes certainly can't see what happens inside tunnels as I posted on Twitter a video of the Hamas taking apart water pipes pipes that deliver water to their own citizens and turning them into rockets that's very hard to see particularly if they build a kind of some barrier so you can't see it from the sky and it just looks like they're doing construction work very, very easy to build rockets but Israel knew that they had thousands of rockets maybe they're surprised by exactly how many but they knew Hamas, I mean Chisbalah has 140,000 at least and Israel knows that but a lot of it is homemade built in tunnels and Israel doesn't have visibility into those tunnels from the end friend of Aristotle, I can't make it often but I'm never disappointed, thanks Iran appreciated, thank you always glad to have a friend of Aristotle on board Ray Dalio, James says, Ray Dalio mentioned because of the war in Israel that a world war is possible, do you think any Muslim country will attempt to attack Israel right now do you think we are headed towards a world war no, I don't think a world war we're heading towards a world war the only elements that can create a world war are Russia and China Russia is not interested in engaging directly with the west it's had a hard enough time with Ukraine so I don't expect that China you might think that China would this would be a good opportunity for China to invade Taiwan because the United States is busy with Ukraine and with Israel and maybe it is I'm not in a position to predict what the Chinese will do but the Chinese are very wary of invading Taiwan partially because I think the Taiwanese are ready or at least decently ready the US has a real presence in the Pacific and I just don't see the Chinese military ready to take on a mission like that I think military estimates in the United States have it as it's going to take China at least five years to get ready for such an invasion but they could be wrong they could be very wrong so I hope that's not the case but if you're going to get a world war it's going to come from China invading Taiwan not from anybody caring too much about Hamas or even caring that much about Iran so you definitely see Iran involved in this but is Russia going to come to the defense of Iran and risk a conventional war with the United States I don't think so Michael, does evil want to die do evil people want someone to kill them no, well deep down in a sense it's all anti-life and they're anti-life including their own but it's not a want, it's not a desire to die it's not like they're thinking about it but deep down if you take what they hold consistently sure at what point do you write someone off as a human being well, at the point of morality if they're immoral and they're consistently immoral with no repents you write them off Duncan Curry says I stand with Israel and I stand with Iran thank you Duncan, really really appreciate it and I'm really eager to hear stories from showing we the living in Ukraine that must be quite an experience I followed it a little bit on social media but that was courageous and I salute you for doing that pretty amazing Andrew, would a rational American government downplay the Iranian connection to Hamas no, quite the contrary they would overplay it and they would use this as another opportunity to take out the Iranians finally Michael says do you think a sizable number of people can't wait to give their freedom away, why is this look, the natural state of humanity if you will has been lack of freedom freedom is an achievement freedom requires effort freedom requires thinking freedom requires taking personal responsibility and when people lose that motivation when they lose the willingness and ability the willingness and the intellectual motivation to engage in that activity to embrace that personal responsibility then it's easier for them to embrace somebody else telling them what to do and how to do it to live free requires energy, requires effort requires engagement, requires commitment requires courage and as the enlightenment values dissipate people return to a pre-enlightenment state where they're not that interested in freedom they want to be told what to do it's easy, it's safer do we simply not have the numbers to make any significant change in the world yep, we don't have the numbers Michael says other than Germany is there any other country touched by the enlightenment that collapsed into fascism Italy Italy, Russia you could argue was touched by the enlightenment I don't know other parts of Europe that embraced fascism during, you know, or supported Hitler during different parts of time, South America was touched by the enlightenment certainly in the 19th century and yet embraced fascism during the 20th century so yes, lots of countries Michael says, Biden's speech on Israel was shockingly good for a Democrat does he just not want to lose the Jewish vote before the election? I mean, I think there's a, the left has been pro-Israel for a variety of reasons including the Jewish vote but they know Israel, they've been to Israel, they understand Israel to some extent and the old Democrats were much more pro-Israel than Republicans and I think Biden is still a legacy of that the party is slowly being taken over by the AOCs of the world who are violently anti-Israel and that is the future of the Democratic Party but the past of the Democratic Party was mostly pro-Israel, Jimmy Carter being an exception although as president he was fairly pro-Israel but later on became very anti-Israel as an ex-president Michael says, I think there's a strong element of egoism in Israel despite the altruism in the intellectuals, the Israeli people have pride in their nation and want to survive and not be pushed around. Yes, I mean it's very similar to the American sense of life very similar to the American sense of pride and self-interest Michael says, those pro-Palestinian protesters are not protests at all, they are what are they protesting? They are celebrating barbarians being able to operate. Yes, definitely Michael says evil needs to be wiped out, it should not be happening in this day and age absolutely, but you're seeing it in Ukraine and in Gaza. Frank says, on Bible maps in Gaza, the home of the Philistines, I think so, I think Gaza is basically the home of the Philistines this is where the Philistines is Goliath, David fought Goliath, it was the Israelites fighting the Philistines and the area of Gaza is generally considered historically to be the area where the Philistines live, not just that area but part of that area at least that's my understanding, I'm not an expert on that Michael says, is support for Israel larger than you expected? No and it'll dissipate, if it sustains itself, it'll be larger than I expected but it'll dissipate, sadly well okay, so there are a lot of questions if your philosophy is against reason against living life, then you or your society are going to become murderous, ultimately I think violence is always a consequence of being against reason, reason is a bulwark against violence, respect for reason, there's no accident that the enlightenment led to the least violent period in history, the least violent periods in history post Napoleonic wars and post World War II, respect for science, technology and reason Michael says Israeli government is reversing the strict gun control policy good, finally evidence that having an armed and trained civilian is rational value for free country yeah, particularly if your enemy is right there and can just walk right into your homes, somebody needs to be able to stop them do we all have irrational elements no matter how good an objective someone is we don't have to have I think we all do because of the way we were brought up and the fact that we live in such an irrational society that it's just the effort required to overcome both our training and just everything around us is is high so most of us do Alex, Ilan's book has been very insightful, thank you for sharing, absolutely I'm glad you enjoyed it Ilan Jonah's book What Justice Demands Please Buy It, it's available in Southback they just did a reprinting of it so please buy it, show the publisher that there's a real market for this Michael says war is a symptom of man's failure as a thinking animal, some man's, not man's, some man's Michael, the left are masters of empowering empty words like apartheid and genocide well they're not empty words, they're meaningful words they are good at empowering those words with a meaning that is different than the original meaning, they're in their intended meaning churning them into cultish mantra that gives their minions a feeling of invincibility against logic and reason, yeah they're very good at creating package deals and that's what they do, they create package deals Michael, everyone is for free speech until they are extremely uncomfortable well some people are not for free speech even before that unfortunately Justice says does BB have a political future I hope not, I really really really, I have been anti-BB for 20 years I'm one of the few people out there who have been anti-BB for 20 years who, you know, respects what he says and what he writes, but doesn't respect at all what he does I don't think he has a political future, I don't think Israel will forgive him Enric says this is excellent, thank you for the Middle East history, look forward to the clip yeah, don't forget Action Jackson to turn the history section into a clip Andrew, there's a dearth of patents of noble prizes coming from Palestinian territory and a plethora of them coming from Israel how would you respond to those who would say that's because of occupation well partially you don't have to just look at the Palestinian Authority how many noble prizes have come out of the Arab world of the Muslim world, expand it to the Muslim world, include Pakistan and Afghanistan, include even Malaysia and Indonesia include Saudi Arabia and Libya and Morocco and Iraq and Iran how many noble prizes have come out of there so you know, those countries are not occupied there's something about modern Islam there's something about the way Islam is practiced today there's something about the political regimes that Muslim countries have adopted and there's something about the ideology and the lack of separation state from church in these regimes that creates a political culture that is anithetical to the production of noble prizes in the sciences at least, I'm sure they got some yes I ultimately got a noble prize for peace so you did get one noble prize right Apollo Zeus asked what my favorite animal is, lions Michael Sanders, would you be a fool not to own a firearm in today's world, well if that's the case then I'm a fool, I don't own a firearm in today's world, I just don't feel afraid enough to own a firearm and I don't like firearms and I take owning a firearm pretty seriously and if you own a firearm you should practice regularly, you should train you should know how to use it really well and I just don't find I don't find I don't enjoy it particularly and I don't find the time for it, so I owned a firearm in California and I never took it out, I never went to train and I feel irresponsible for having it and not training on it now I could change my mind things could be different and I might, I'm not again stoning a firearm, you know I think a defensive weapon of some sort ultimately maybe a shotgun is the easiest because you don't have to train on it you just point and click the button and press the trigger, so maybe something like a shotgun it's always in the back of my mind in Puerto Rico I haven't done it I might do it, I don't know Josh says that comment from the talk about hanging from the tallest tree needs to be a short yeah, I mean feel free to do it, it's a c-span video anybody can go in there, cut it and put it up, so feel free to take any of my videos, turn them into shorts and get them out there Daniel says you have converted me, Iran from a socialist to student objectivism I appreciate that, I'm wondering if I've converted any libertarians, particularly over this issue, it would be interesting do you think Mark says, do you think Representative Tlaib has the right to fly the Palestinian flag outside of her office in Congress if not what should be done, no I don't think she has, I think she should be clear that congressmen should not be flying anybody's flags outside their offices, but particularly not a flag of an entity that is hostile to the United States but look, this is all the fault of Bush the fault of every president since Bush if the United States declared Hamas an enemy of the United States then it would be obvious that she couldn't fly the flag but the United States still pretends and gives aid and has given aid under many administrations in the Palestinian, so as long as that's the case how can he blame her, so I mean you can't blame her of course, but the United States should declare war or declare Islamic totalitarianism as an enemy and make a list of all the organizations and all their state actors that facilitate Islamic totalitarianism, Qatar would probably be on that list so would Iran and they war with them as well and then it's obvious that you ban their flags and you ban any show by an American congressman any show of sympathy towards the enemy but that's not going to happen America's not going to do that proper, what context is it okay to settle on unused land and start a nation I'm guessing you wouldn't be okay with people taking over empty and unowned parts of Montana and establishing their own nation I would if there wasn't a United States here already but remember there was no nation there there was an empire and they didn't start a nation during the empire they started a nation once the empire left, the British Empire left so there was nothing there, there was nobody there there was no ruling political there was no political entity responsible for this piece of land and you live on this land and you've developed this land you've built this land, you've created everything there, of course you're going to declare your own independence over it so it's not like there was another political entity controlling and part of it now by the way I do believe that all unused territory in the United States should be settled and I'm okay by whom by immigrants for all I care the United States should basically have what do you call it what do they do in Oklahoma territory and allow people to settle all land owned by the government there should be no land owned by the government which is unused but it's not equivalent there is a rule of law over the land in Montana whether it's used or unused there was no rule of law, there was no nation there was no country ruling what became Israel there was a British that took it for the Ottomans the Ottomans are taken from previous Muslim empires, the previous Muslim antics took it from the Byzantines the Romans and the Romans took it from the Jews so how far back do we need to go the Jews took it from the Philistines in the Old Testament so how far do we need to go find a few Philistines and say it's yours no, the British left creating a vacuum Israel declared independence it was invaded, it defended itself it occupied the land that it occupied again that's why I did the history it wasn't like there was a Palestinian country a Palestinian nation ruled by Palestinians and the Israelis came in they occupied some land and said whoops, we want it, our own country although libertarians should be happy about that, they claim that you should be able to secede any plot of land should be able to secede, I'm not but there was no Palestinian state there was no Palestinian country and by the way if it had been an authoritarian state and you want to secede in the name of liberty and freedom then yeah, absolutely have a right then and should do that so if Montana was ruled by an authoritarian and somebody came in and settled that unused land and declared a new country in that unused land that celebrated liberty and freedom yes, I would support that, absolutely so context really really matters equal to reality, says I am a former N-cap libertarian, now objective thanks to you, I have been an objective for 4-5 years now excellent, thank you equal to reality I'm hoping they are more like you out there and that as we speak converting more N-caps to objectivism daily, hourly minutely alright everybody, thank you for all the support both spiritual, financial just watching you know, again please look at this video all the videos I've done the old videos on 9-11 just war theory, 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