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It's an actual Raspberry Pi It's just made it easy to put together Right, so for a kid who would be put off by an actual Raspberry Pi This could get them in the door and they start to realize. Oh, it's not that hard Right and then they have the custom OS and then you know ability of some codes and stuff in Minecraft I think it is a really really cool kid You know, I also have that screen to put together which is gonna be pretty exciting. I've never yeah, I've never built Thanks for watching my videos, man. Wow You know about the table about this. That's like cool. Yeah, I subscribe I'm just I Actually just subscribed on the DTS channel too because I did that way it shows up as related I expect you to comment and discuss with me my Oreo videos on a regular basis All right, that's the next step up for me. Yeah, not just the technology stuff has to Yeah, I was like way too excited about the IKEA table man that that's a life changer That's a cool table. I have a table that you can adjust that the link with but it's hydraulic not it doesn't it's not automatic Wow, that's awesome. You're like next level. Yeah, I am I So Robert Scoble like oh it shows my sentiment But he he's so one made by the year ago from this company that was here in LA It was like three thousand bucks. She's and I was like and so when I saw this one for four something like deal. Yeah Yeah, like no brainer All right, let's get this show on the road ready. Yes, sir Without advertising your radio station would sound like this Without your support on patreon.com the daily tech news show would sound like this We thank you for your support Daily tech news show comm forward slash support This is the daily tech news from Monday March 7th 2016 Veronica Belmont on vacation But no worries. We got Lamar Wilson in the house. How are you doing Lamar? I'm doing great I am out shining you with this very bright overly saturated shirt Just trying to replace Veronica as best as I can man. You are you are bright You're like the Sun and I mean that in the best possible way. You are my son. Wait, I'm your father. No, that's not what I meant Well, there's a big age difference. So you know, I'm just gonna know there isn't time travel, you know Right exactly Well, hey, we got We got we're gonna talk about the nature of emails a very sad loss to tech history Ray Tomlinson It was age 70 who developed the email protocol back in the early days We'll talk a little bit about that Passed away this weekend, but we're gonna use this to talk about the state of email where what do we use it for? What's it good for and maybe we'll reminisce a little as well. All right. This is it. All right Let's start off though with the headlines Google announced you no longer need an invite to sign up for project phi its cell phone service in the United States Google also is discounting the Nexus 5x from $350 down to $199 if you activate it through project phi The service is $20 a month for unlimited calls text tethering and international roaming That means you don't have to pay to tether be stuff to pay for the data Data is charged at $10 per gigabyte and they only charge you for what you use So it's a little like ting in that respect. They'll even give you refunds if you overpay It combines t-mobile and sprint networks together, which everyone is strongest But it only works on Google's Nexus phones So there's three of those right now and then a limited number of LTE tab Let's although I think it does work on the the latest iPads This this got people excited because project phi seems to be a hit among the people who have been invited Yes, I was so confused about this and I don't know I looked at the article Is this for a certain region of the US or literally everyone can sign up now for and yeah anywhere in the US now can sign up It's not regional if you're in a place where sprint is better You'll get connected to the sprint network if you're in a place for t-mobile is better You'll get connected to the t-mobile network and as you travel it'll adapt because what's Google's doing is is basically Acting as an MVNO a virtual network operator and connecting to both of those they're paying both of those networks Okay, I mean yeah if you if you're one of the hundred people are that's terrible It's a little bit of a Nexus, but no I mean they don't sell as well It's interesting, but I see why they're trying it It's a small subset of people if it works out. Maybe they'll more Android phones will come to the To the network I think I mean 20 bucks a month and I mean what's the average person use two to three gigs? Maybe every other Wi-Fi. I don't use more than that and I'm a heavy user So I'm one of those t-mobile unlimited to $80 a month. I probably use four or five gigabytes. Maybe yeah But yeah, and I like the flexibility of not having to like with Verizon when I used to be on Verizon I'd have to guess how many gigabytes I was gonna use every month and then try to get close So when I was traveling I would up my plan and then when I'd get back I'd have to remember to bring it back down this way you don't have to do that You just use your stuff and then they charge you for it. Yeah, I think it's a good idea Yeah The Verge reports that Facebook is working with a limited number of WordPress users to test a plug-in that creates Facebook instant articles Facebook is opening up instant articles to all publishers on April 12th WordPress maker automatic plans to release the open-source plug-in to WordPress users by April 12th so that we could take advantage of it This is similar to Google and WordPress working together on a plug-in for AMP the accelerated mobile pages Which is sort of Google's more wide open version of instant articles So I'm gonna tell you I'm uh I'm mostly an Apple news user. I used to be flip-worn at you Okay, so you're using Apple news a lot interesting Yeah, I switched over just to try to give give it a chance to you for the most part like it But I'm gonna tell you saying that I am getting a lot of my news From from Facebook like these days like that that that sidebar with the with the trending topics I find myself getting pretty immersed in that and so although I haven't seen instant articles pop pop up yet For me, I can see myself using it very easily in getting and getting engrossed in that Well, and the way it should work is you shouldn't notice it Unless you notice that something loaded really fast because instant articles just reduces the page load and serves it from within Facebook So that you don't have to wait for it to load from the the source articles server got it and and making it available for WordPress means that anybody could do this and not have to like go through some Big partnership dance with Facebook. So that's cool Verizon wireless has agreed to pay a one point three five million dollar fine and give users more control over super cookies. Those are the ID numbers that identify mobile customers in order to target advertising Verizon has been inserting these Unique identifying headers you might hear them called UIDH as well into HTTP traffic since December 2012 some limited disclosures were made in the privacy policy back then but specific disclosure of UIDH itself was not made until October 2014 and a way to opt out was not really made available until January 2015 The US FCC ruled that Verizon had not provided accurate information to customers about the network management practice Found them in violation of both the open Internet guidelines transparency provision as well as the communications act I Am offended and outraged that people would think Verizon of all people would do something malicious like this I mean, come on Verizon here. They're the best. I said a bit so they did it Yeah, I guess they did yes they did didn't they yeah I mean they're pretty the fine. Let's put it that way It was it's worth the fine I am full Maybe maybe not they got some bad price in fact I'm not gonna say this is the reason I switched from Verizon But one of the one of the reasons it was definitely in the back of my mind is they also were doing the super cookie thing Which you could opt out of in a way But you couldn't fully opt out of until January 2015 and even then it was difficult to find the option to do it So just another example of don't mess with the packets. Just give me the packets Don't don't put things in them. Don't reinterpret them. Don't add targeting is give you what you asked for it. Yeah Lyft now has an API for third-party developers and has launched it with Facebook messenger integration in 11 cities in the U.S. Today if that sounds familiar That's because uber did almost exactly the same thing back in August 2014 launching with Facebook messenger Lyft told tech crunches Sarah Bure it has rolled out integration with London's city mapper as well now Lyft doesn't operate in the UK But city mapper does operate in New York And so if Lyft were ever to get to the UK they might be able to take advantage of that But city mapper maybe get a little bit of a lift out of this itself. Oh Wow, okay, I can't even say my comment now because that was a perfect Just just go on I don't know. I don't know if perfect would be the word most people are using for that but but yeah, this is gonna make it easier to get a lift and And and you can already use this on messenger with uber So these kinds of ride-sharing services certainly not going away despite all the controversy and protests around them And getting easier all the time US Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal of Apple's ebook case That means a verdict from 2013 that found Apple had indeed fixed ebook prices will stand It also means a class action settlement contingent on that decision will go into effect Apple will pay out 50 million dollars to lawyers and 400 million dollars to ebook owners as part of that settlement So basically a day's worth of profits Yeah I get you know, I mean, I guess when you put it that way, it's not that punitive Which is why they found it all the way But what's funny is all the publishers settled right away as soon as they got accused of price fixing They settled Apple was the only one who wanted to keep fighting this till the end and that's Tends to be what they do if someone challenges on someone they take it as far as they can go and try to rack up the cost Sometimes the costs get revisited back on them though. Yeah Security researchers from Palo Alto networks told Reuters Sunday the first ransomware target of a mac Has appeared Friday Key ranger is the first in the wild ransomware for os 10 that is functional It waits three days and then it encrypts files and asks for one bitcoin to get them back a bitcoin's running around 400 bucks right now So it's not cheap attackers use the 2.90 version of the bit to our client transmission to infect users That'll put a quake in a couple of boots out there Apple has revoked a digital certificate that allowed the software to install an os 10 and transmission itself has removed the infected version And released a version that removes the ransomware in case you had installed the infected version Thanks to sp. Sheridan and e of c 88 for posting this on the subreddit Yeah, well, I guess first of all shame on you for using bits or I use transmission and I do use it. I'm not even joking. I use it for linux isos When I'm not even kidding you like I know that's what everybody says But I use transmission as my os 10 bit to our client for perfectly legitimate uses you use it for good things for like Legal yeah for a boot to I I'm stunned. You're probably the only person that is not true Exactly Let's just hear it. Oh, yeah Yeah, exactly and and and yes, many of you may use transmission and other bitcoin clients for ill But that doesn't mean that's what it can only be used for so I have to say like this is unfortunate for transmission, which is a fairly good client. Otherwise that they they got Sideswiped and somebody got in got into their packets It's going to make me rethink whether I want to use them for sure Although probably they're safer than others now that they've been bitten Because they'll redouble their efforts No, let me ask you that because this word rent. I mean, I've heard of this type of uh Thing, you know people do but I hadn't heard ransomware before like that. What is that? Is that a fairly new? I know the concept is not new but like is that a fairly new term? It's become more current. Yeah as this has become more and more popular It's it's starting to bubble up into the consciousness But yeah, if anybody doesn't know it It means that somebody locks that you you get infected by malware that locks down your computer And asked you to give money back in exchange for that happened to a hospital here in LA. We talked about that on the show Wow Microsoft is shutting down Danish press play studios and is in discussion with the employees of lionhead studios best known for the fable franchise About closing down that studio as well Uh development on multiplayer fable legends games is being halted and the company will sunset development on press plays project Knoxville fables big franchise too. Uh, we talked about this on pixels with Patrick Beja this morning Really somewhat shocking to think that fables is done Yeah, this was a this was a actually a big surprise that you just see this Didn't see this coming. I didn't know how much of it. I didn't even know they owned the the studio like that to To be able to knock them down late and they were and fable was working on a game as of 2013 I'd announced it Then he talked about it being a free-to-play game and then all of a sudden it's just gone Uh, and that's uh, it's it's a shame at a time when uh ps4 is pushing You know these you know First party developers and and making it very friendly for them to be there. You see Microsoft At least looking like they're doing the opposite thing Uh, let me even a game the uh from lionhead I think it's lionhead. No, no press play the max intermagic, uh, excuse me No, they made max intermagic marker curse to the brother because I played that a little bit on xbox one Uh, great game was just sad to see It's always sad to see developers lose their job. But you don't want anybody losing their job For sure for sure and and it is Microsoft tightening the belt Uh getting more efficient at a time when the xbox is is resurgent It's it's starting to catch up a little bit, but it's still far behind the ps4 and sales And and last week, of course the announcement of the universal windows applications was At at best mixed reaction. Uh, lots of negative reaction as well. So Tough couple weeks here for microsoft in the gaming area Google's managing director for india rajan ananda told the economic times that google is in talks with a number of local Telcos about partnering with project loon to provide internet to rural india project loon is the one that uses high altitude balloons To cover rural and remote areas with wi-fi internet I think that was facebook's thing. What what does facebook have? Facebook has their own Okay, okay. So they have drones google has balloons and yahoo has Carrier pigeons. I'm trying to remember. What is I think that was a sneaker net. No, I don't know I shouldn't say it. Yeah, it's terrible. Uh, no, yeah, I don't know that yahoo is involved in anything like this I could be wrong. Let me know. No, no, no Yeah Yeah But this is great. No, there's there's more more places on earth, singapore I believe is involved with project loon. Of course, they've been testing at new zealand There's right. There's talk of rolling it out in brazil So so this idea of balloon delivered internet that has been so entertaining for us for years is becoming a reality Wow We mentioned on friday that amazon removed encryption from its fire os version five Back in the fall and that update started to get to enough people that people started to notice last week amazon now says It will be coming back a spokesperson told the bbc quote We will return the option for full disk encryption with a fire os update coming this spring And as we said on you and I said on twitter, well, how nice of them Yeah, thank you. Thank you for for thinking of us this time Oh, so you're only going to make my uh device data insecure for a few months few months Although not a big deal. Yeah I I would what what what are they doing here? Yeah, I would love to know why they removed it my best guess Is it was a purely engineering driven decision that somehow Someone didn't stop Because yes encryption will slow down your performance and yes They they did say that it was not being used by a number of people by a large number of people And so from a purely engineering decision. Hey feature not being used slows down performance helps our performance to get rid of feature But in this climate even if it's not being used that's going the wrong way You want to be encouraging people to be safe with their data? So it really odd right in the middle of the apple encryption debate with the fbi to have amazon What suddenly people notice anyway that amazon was removing encryption? Yeah, well, that's what I was going to ask that did they did they do this? And kind of a preemptive response to if they ever get an apple type of situation Uh, at least maybe wonder was it they'll be kind of silly to to do that for that reason, but Yeah, a lot of people were thinking that to me to my way of thinking if amazon wanted to Curry favor with the fbi or the nsa they would have left encryption on they would have just weakened it Because the fbi and the nsa don't want you to think you don't have any protection They want you to think you have protection But then they want to be able to get in through a back door So removing entirely is is not A good way to do it because then the people who do want to hide things are definitely not going to use the Fire OS because they've got no encryption. Okay. Good point. Good point US department of commerce has imposed export curbs making it harder for china's zte to acquire us products companies like intel for instance who supply chips to zte would have to apply for an export license to do so And those licenses might not always be approved zte is accused of violating a restriction on exporting controlled items to iran zte denies That they have violated this restriction And chinese foreign ministry spokesman hong lei told a daily briefing quote china is opposed to the us citing domestic laws To place sanctions on chinese enterprises zte can appeal the decision starting tuesday and expect they will Yeah, cool zte by the way, if you don't know they make phones You might know them from the handsets they make but they also make networking equipment as well So it's it's a double-edged sword there. Oh I don't know Finally chris pool aka moot The man who you know, you've you've read forechan, right? No, yet. No, I don't know Maybe you've heard of it. You've heard of you have a friend who reads comment There's a friend there's a friend He left forechan about a year ago and he announced on his blog today That he's going to go work for google reporting to vp of streams photos and sharing Bradley Horowitz That's the department that has google plus Among other things and when pool left forechan a year ago one of the things he talked about Was wanting to work on doing identity, right? He said google does a horrible job with it twitter does okay with it And he said I want to do identity right it looks like google called him up and said well if we're doing such a horrible job Why don't you join us and tell us how to do it right? okay, yeah, so a place that That has anonymous people And no identity he wants to now make identity Done correctly But didn't do it in his Well, I mean, I think it's I think it's unfair to say forechan has no identity You can you can have a username Unfortunate is it is definitely well known for its anonymity But maybe that's the right person to bring in is someone who's Very experienced with dealing with people who want to remain anonymous And how to handle one of the most wild And uncontrollable Communities on the internet to to do something like google plus he should be able to do that in his sleep like oh, yeah Here's here's how you here's how you handle this here are the things to not piss people off Because that's one of the main failings I think of google plus has been the fact that they tried to force it Into places like youtube for instance and angered a lot of people with the way they did it Mm-hmm. You know you always have this positive spin on everything This is why you are in that seat and not me. So you continue. Yeah, I'm probably wrong No, I I think you're right. It's because it sounded good. So it must be right Yeah I can take the other side of it too if you want but uh, no, I think this will be interesting. It's sort of like Uh, only nixon can go to china, right? Only moot can wait into the google plus controversy. So Uh, well folks, thanks for uh, letting us know what you would like us to talk about It really helps us put the show together every day So please get into our sub reddit and vote at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com You can submit links there as well lots of people submit links We love that too But even if it's just a couple votes on stuff that looks interesting to you that helps daily tech news show Dot reddit dot com and that is a look at the headlines All right, thanks to uh, strike at rich one who posted this discussion topic in Our uh, sub reddit, uh, again, we're talking about the uh, the sad passing of ray tomlinson 74 years old apparent heart attack Back in 1971 tomlinson was working at bolt baroneca newman bbn in boston And it was right around the time that the first imps were being delivered the uh, the the internet The things that built the internet Uh, and he was charged with Finding out stuff to do on what was then called the arpanet So he started messing around with something called the send message protocol Snd msg now that was usually used on a computer itself to leave messages for other users of that computer But he said oh, we got this arpanet thing lemar I want to start sending messages from one computer to another computer Now I know right he wasn't the first person to think of this richard watson at sri actually wrote an rfc for a mailbox protocol That summer in july 1971, but tomlinson thought he could do it better Uh, so he combined a file transfer program that he wrote With send message to deliver messages to other computers connected to the arpanet He said the first one he he did was send it from one computer on one side of the room to another computer the other side of the room Yeah, he's I don't remember what I wrote. It was probably just courty Uh or something like that. He doesn't remember exactly when but he does remember that he picked the at symbol and he told mpr That he picked the at symbol because it's the only proposition on the keyboard It wasn't really being used in programming that much And so if if there is no dispute of his legacy of of the at symbol is now like Become huge on the internet, right? Yeah, no, okay really dispute that part Uh the mail the mail commands are put into the file transfer protocol in april of 1972 four or five months after his initial attempt Uh, more people worked on it after that And then he was inducted into the internet hall of fame in 2012 now There is also a claim to email from dr. Shiva. Ayudhurei who created a software system in 1978 when he was 14 years old That he dubbed email. He got a copyright for his email software in 1982 It is generally considered that he certainly Popularized the name if not coined the name entirely, uh, which which some people give him credit for He says he invented email Tomlinson was always a little more demure saying yeah, there were there were people doing similar things before me Lots of people kept developing it afterwards and turned it into the email system We have today and and and dr. Ayudhurei Is is one of them. So, you know, there's lots of lots of signposts in the road along the way but Can you imagine like this thing is 1971 We get the ad symbol that that's before this the year that vinyl on hbo took place Yeah, I wasn't even thought of in 1971 I was sorry Wow Wow, Tom I was probably I don't know. I was probably still in diapers. Maybe I still am But the This is pretty incredible though There's no yeah, there's no doubting that email has endured as a communication method and many people have predicted its demise Over the years going back into the 90s even. Oh, we're instant messaging is going to take it over Oh text messaging is going to take it over and now we're talking about snapchat is going to people don't use email anymore Why is email still around do you think? I have a few answers for this Number one It's the number one social network in the world. I mean, it's it's by far the biggest Um, it's still around because although facebook messenger is great. What you and I are using right now the google messenger And hangouts is great AOL messenger all text messaging all all these all these different systems are fantastic But you have to buy into those systems With email there's no buy in necessary You just open up a mailbox and anyone can send you anything and you can send anyone anything You don't have to know if they're on a mac on a pc if they have a android phone ios It is the perfect system and we we really have not made anything better For for messaging. That's ubiquitous across all these different platforms. I can't think of anything. That's even close Maybe sms. Maybe sms is the closest Yeah, but you you don't really use sms on your desktop. I mean, yeah, there are ways with things like iMessage and other programs for android but Email, I think you're right the fact that it is open Anybody can use it. You don't need anyone's permission to into to start email Anybody can start a business providing email and every email business will work with every other email business I think that's a lesson that we should not ignore Because the trend of these days is the opposite the trend is to say well Our platform that we're silo our services Yeah, and and I think that email is very instructive because there's a lot of downsides to email But its openness Has really kept it around and the downsides are big security is a problem for email Spam has been a problem for email. Just just the way we manage it. I think it's probably even the biggest problem Don't you think I think yeah, I absolutely think so Okay, that's that's really what google is tackling right now with the uh, what was what's the god only use of their new inbox Uh software. Oh, okay. It's called inbox. Uh, it's like calling your daily news show daily tech news show Exactly um and and then there's uh, what was oh the wave wave was was a thing they tried Uh, I mean I I commend these companies for trying Uh, but you're right. Maybe Maybe they're looking at it the wrong way You know, maybe they really need to take a lesson from email and say hey How can we make assist make this even better or or to make a system? Uh out of this for regular messaging there So because there's something there it's it's I love email in a sense that it's everywhere I don't love getting a lot of Yeah, I people keep predicting the death of email and I and I have a feeling that it's the cockroach of internet protocols I I I don't see email ever dying it can rise and fall in popularity What what is it good for these days because there are plenty of times when I email people and I don't get a response And I have to try some other method of communication Yeah, um I mean I I still I still think Or what I'd use it for basically is it anything longer than I would want to text someone Uh, sydney files Sending links to to to people I will say though and responsible with these questions will it die? What's what's it good for? I think what what we need to end up having is just some kind of like our social security number just some kind of permanent Uh type of id that stamps us any can't hey, it could be our social security number I mean maybe those are just become public And and we could just use this one number You just lost a good portion of the audience Uh Yeah, you know, I'm not saying. Yeah. Yeah, it's a kind of permanent universal messaging They were it hits your your phone first. You don't answer hits your email your text There's just one one contact place and it just tries to get you wherever you might be I think that's Where it's going and it really answer what you're what's it good for? Uh, because that's I mean Makes the communication but but you're right. It's really hard to get people a lot of times on email because they don't check it Yeah, I think the the the benefits of email are like you said the flexibility. I could send a link I could send a file. I can write long. I can write short. Uh, the only real like killer Problem with email is people not being able to pay attention of it to it because they get too much of it Uh against that that management issue And there's so like you said there's inbox which lots people in our chat room are saying they love And maybe that helps but that's proprietary. You got to use google You know, maybe you don't have to use a google email address, but you got to use google's product to use inbox. Uh, and and so I mean, we've we've we've had a lot of time to work on clients and we still haven't nailed it. Have we what was the first client you used? Oh, wow So my first client was juno email. I believe that was late 95 or 96 for sure Um, I had just windows 5 at 9 windows 5 windows 95 just came just come out I had this old 46 and just getting on the internet for the first time myself and that was that was my my client was So excited to log in with the modal making all that noise to hear to see that I got a message from Grandma whoever else who happened to have it at the time. It was uh I kept juno for quite a while even I used aol and other things. I just I loved I love juno just did you use that at all I never used I might have had a juno address actually I just thought that was the first but it probably was not the first main main email one pine That it that was because I was one of those. Oh man. I was an insufferable hipster who hated the graphical web In 1993. Oh, you're one of those So I only had shell access to my internet service provider ccsi So I used pine that was how I emailed until 1996 when I finally gave in and I got a I got an email address from concentric.net and atnt world net and I started using that's a communicator for him Wow, that takes me back Yeah, I think after juno, maybe it was it was compu server aol or something But I remember world net my god. That was a lot That brings back memories and then yeah, so I started using communicator for for my email management on the desktop And I think I used you Dora for a while. I kept going back and forth Um, but I I also like I had a usa.net address Yeah Okay, uh, you're taking me way back big foot. Yeah Wow Uh, yeah, I let X at bigfoot.com doesn't work anymore Don't email it Don't try I think I had lemar was in there. I don't know lemar or something Uh, yeah, it's it's crazy how many email address we had and then when yahoo finally came out that was mine for years Like I think I have I signed up for a yahoo address round You know late 90s whenever uh, and I still have it. That's my longest running email address Same here Yeah, because what what happens? I closed it Some years ago, but yahoo gave you this option recently last year's to like get it back Oh, interesting. Yeah. Yeah. And so I went and I said, you know what? Let me just for nostalgia Get my old email address back and so I always have it for life now I feel I'm sad that I actually used to clean out my email because Now my yahoo box goes back to 1999 and I so there's three years of email that I just deleted back then Yeah, see I'm I'm a I'm an email cleaner The most I have is 2011. I think Well, uh, let us let us know your your reminiscences and especially what you guys think Email is good for what its future is. I I think it will stick around and I think its usefulness Will rise and fall depending on the clients And and how well we can secure it and and google and yahoo particularly and a few others are making great strides In raising awareness about email security and and I like the guy from the identity theft commercials Use your social security number. It's what we it will protect it Didn't that not work out so well for him? I I think I think that kind of feel Yeah All right, let's get to our pick of the day from harrison Another good travel tip But maybe a pick of the day with all the talk on raspberry pies if you travel I'm sure you've heard of flight aware. You ever heard of flight aware of the mar I have not actually so flight aware lets you look up By by tail number or flight number Not only like the arrival times of flights, but where they are in flight and what they're whether your plane is actually coming I use flight when it's gonna land Yeah similar type of thing So harrison wanted us to know about pie aware. It turns. No, it's not about pie It turns a raspberry pie into an adsb receiver And feeds this data back to flight aware to help improve the service It's a nice way to crowdsource flight data in the united states Which is very well covered, but they do need more stations in some foreign countries And he says here's the tip By setting up a pie aware box. They give you a premium account to flight aware for free Now granted you pay a hundred dollars us for the hardware and a little in power each month But I feel like i'm contributing to something. I use a ton. It's a nice thing to have and not a must have But wanted to pass this along so you're collecting data from the transponder signals passing along to flight aware and you get a free flight aware account Okay, so that's that's that's a nice crowdsourcing idea. Yeah Yeah, like it wouldn't be needed to hear as much you're right because we kind of have our system together But yeah, so it's about the country's rural area in the us or in places where the coverage is not as great This is fantastic. So and and if you have a raspberry pie already, then I do Yeah, you do as a matter of fact, don't you? Yeah That was a cool video that you did No, thank you Yeah, send your picks to us folks feedback at daily tech news show dot com You can find more picks at daily tech news show dot com slash picks A few more emails before we're out of here Drew from sunny boulder colorado Has weaseled a reasonably attractive piece of hardware says he says amazon. He has not weaseled it I haven't apologized Drew. I'm not accusing Drew of weaseling Amazon has weaseled a reasonably attractive piece of hardware with an always on microphone and connection to amazon goods and services Into some of the most prime real estate in my house the kitchen counter Given that it's fun to brainstorm the further ways that amazon could add value to future versions of echo Could it be a wi-fi router similar maybe in shape and size to google's on hub router or a wi-fi repeater You could pair it with an ir blaster and make the harmony hub obsolete Anything else? I think amazon has a win here anecdotally everyone I know who has tried echo has fun with it the product is good enough to keep a place in my kitchen and it just keeps getting better You know tom i'm a i'm my apple fan I haven't used home kit yet, but i gotta say man I love my my echo like i use it multiple times a day And I just found out the nest is going to be partnering with them a couple weeks Yep, so for for my nest thermometer, which is I don't have to do the the if what is the if The if thing and so like it is it is just getting better and better every week with new features And I I have never been more impressed with a piece of technology Uh than I have with the echo Is really good. Yeah, I I like mine too and I think these are intriguing possibilities and amazon seems to want to slowly Just add capability to it so Then last week patrick recommended the aces r2 3200 ac and scott who is studying networking and systems administration in college Has had the same router for about a year. Maybe it's not in college, but he's studying it and writes It really won't be any faster or better than something in the 1900 ac range But what the 3200 ac does is provide improved support for legacy wireless protocols And he talks about the fact that sometimes if you have A slower wireless device on your wireless network, the network will slow down to the speed of that device The speeding of the slowing it down for everything on the network He says the 3200 ac is a tri-band router and it merges the three streams two five gigahertz and one two point four gigahertz into a single ssid It then can detect a slower device and segregate its traffic to its own band Allowing the ac devices to continue utilizing the five gigahertz band and get the full speed they're capable of I thought newer routers did that already. So like if I have a uh, uh something a g connected an old phone They will slow down my whole eight network to accommodate for it Uh, depending on the router. Yeah, some routers do this merging uh tactic But what he was pointing out is while the 3200 ac that that patrick was recommending Right isn't necessarily a better router than the 1900 ac. It does do this one thing So if you have a bunch of different devices with different wi-fi protocols, you guys still got some 802.11 b devices around me too like I don't even like I've got 21 I have to look at my hero, but I have like 21 devices connected at any one time Wow, it's nuts Uh Marcus said with all the ar and vr talk, I would have to recommend reading rainbow's end by verner vinge He describes the epitheny system as projecting from contact lenses input by shoulder muscle movement Various consensus views of different reality even a virtual theme park Where different visitors can explore different virtual worlds all overlaid on the same physical environment I never heard of this uh, is this book Have you kind of used? Yeah, you're in them You're in the reading like this. Have you read it? I haven't read rainbow's end. It is a gap in my science fiction literacy, uh, but okay, I love this idea at verner vinge is is an amazing author. So Definitely like I I I can't even imagine putting contact lenses on I don't know if you do but like I can Okay, I can't imagine just that that the horror of trying to put something on my eyelid No, I'm already I'm already weird out enough with like my freaking reading glasses that I have to wear for certain things Oh my and then having to stick something in my you're like a librarian now With those I think I just attached it to my my microphone Okay, uh, rinard has some more ideas on the uses for virtual reality Uh, tell me what you think of these lemar. Uh, he says real estate and showing properties Yes, absolutely Uh, and especially for long distance clients. He says car sales sitting in cars before the showroom Absolutely, these are those are good. Yeah wedding reception venues could show off their properties So you don't have to visit Okay And one real future idea for sports. Can you imagine courtside seats through virtual reality 50 yard line at the super bowl? Yeah, but if everybody's sitting at it If there is an area everybody has the same seat It's just like but I don't know those ones that eventually gets less popular because people realize I mean, I can't actually see all the things I could see on a regular switch television broadcast Exactly, but I really love the idea of like walking around and to a house And seeing all the rooms without you having to physically be there if you're on the other side of the country Sitting on the plane that is that is genius. Yeah. Yeah, we could use that when we moved to LA. That would have been great Yeah, well, thank you lemar wilson for joining us as always, uh, folks go subscribe youtube.com slash lemar wilson Uh, I love your two most recent videos about your, uh, your adjustable desk That's automatic. Uh, that thing looks cool. Yeah. Yeah, so automatic, uh, standing and sitting table from uh, got from Ikea Um, and I let them put it together because I'm lazy Uh, but it's it's really amazing like you need to check it out and and then I did a fun video about the cannell Uh computer kit for kids who are teaching kids how to Cold computers from six to ten years old or hey, there's some adults in my audience who are like Look forget the kids. I'm buying this thing You know, it comes it comes with a raspberry pi and and instructions on how to build this and Hook it up to a monitor and you can like start coding for Minecraft Uh pong and some other games like the possibilities to kind of kind of endless with it So I there's something that I'm no i'm a deficit in excuse me I have a deficit in when it comes to programming And then so it's it's nice to just learn some basic stuff. I mean all I know is html really It's really cool too because I I know a lot of diyers are going to look at this and go Well, wait, I can just buy a raspberry pi and do all this stuff myself Why would but that is too intimidating for some people? But trust trust us if you don't at a seven-year-old. Yeah, yeah, exactly some seven years old Maybe do the diy but if if if if they're sort of like I'm sort of interested, but I'm lazy This is the thing that could draw them into it by making it really easy. It's pretty cool Yeah, so, uh, yeah, I check check those two videos out. It gets some more cool tech stuff coming This weekend beyond so be sure to subscribe. Thank you. Tom. Appreciate it. Yeah, you bet youtube.com slash Lamar wilson Thanks to everybody who supports our show Directly. That's the only way we make money Is because you like the show enough to give us the value back We're gonna get a new episode of day six from peter wells. Thanks to you guys supporting the show That'll be coming out this sunday from australia and we got more milestones on the way daily tech news show Dot com slash support don't forget I'll be in austin texas this week for the diamond club party on saturday march 12th from 2 to 5 p.m With jesson robert young and bryan brushwood, uh, and we'll be doing an la meetup saturday march 19th 3 p.m at the farmers market. I will be at that one. I didn't know yet. They're coming out. Yeah I'll make sure come meet me jail be there the morrow be there. 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I'm like Yeah, I wonder if these are and i'm not nothing against a person But I wonder have they furniture shops because furniture is not cheap Uh for good quality stuff, you know 400 is nothing yet scobal robber scobal Showcase won maybe a year or two go standing Desk and it was about two three thousand bucks. I message the company to say like get one for a review and never heard back from them So when I saw this 470 book, I'm like piece of yeah easily It's easily worth it for someone who does what I do Uh with the unboxing thing like I I actually want to start standing up in my videos now Uh, because I actually don't like sitting down all the time doing doing I have an adjustable desk here It's hydraulic. It's not automatically yours Um But uh, it uh, what do you say? Now father robert balaser got it uh sent to me. It's got hydraulics Uh, so I'm hugely thankful father robert. I've been using it for three years Um, so yeah, it's not a crank. It's it's pretty easy, but I've been thinking about doing the stand-up thing too Yeah, I didn't I didn't know you had one. That's pretty cool. Yeah Uh, I just you never can tell because I'm always sitting down. So it's yeah kind of wasted It's it's supposed to be healthy for I mean, I don't I don't spend more more than 10 15 minutes in there filming a video But it's it's still nice. It makes me look thinner because you know, it's not all the fat It's not pooled in one area when I'm It's swimming folks. Yeah Get the new automatic desk. It's yeah See I need to wear vertical stripes Yeah, exactly. You you'll look hot in no time. Yeah I want you to call this episode Hot in no time showbot.tv Hot in no time Um We've got uh See five full. Okay. I'm just kidding balloons as a service Email is where it's at Okay, that that that one has to be it. I kind of love that. Is that it we've done with that Yeah, I mean, you know, I breathe the rest of it. That's that's perfect. Who's who did that? Captain kipper did that one. Oh good job. Good job All right, email is where it's at it's where it's at. I like that You impress lamar cap kipper and it takes a lot He is He's not a nice man What do you say Robert? Sorry Yeah, doesn't ring doesn't nah, there's a jingle doesn't ring a bad transmission Uh, get it. Oh because of the yeah transmission app, right My transmission's out. We're going with the email. We're doing it live. Oh, we've already we've already I'm already uploading. I okay. Oh, wow, but you know, we like there Like to give another you know, there's there's lots of interesting suggestions. Good. Did I do my inner o'riley though? That was your outer o'riley. Oh, yeah it is You know when I was o'riley auto parts or All right. Yeah, sure sure what I used to and I don't have any political affiliations, but like years ago I used to like when I worked at a school whatever used to make sure I get home and I would watch O'riley really because I liked I liked that there was finally a A news commentator that wasn't like peter jennings recipes who who just reports the news It doesn't like give any flavor to it. All he's doing is teleprompter reading It was kind of refreshing to see someone who just like kind of challenged the news or you know Challenged the thinking and you know, and I just he was he was loud and obnoxious and I kind of I like that um Yeah, I mean now I mean again, I don't I don't share any political affiliation I liked it for the news But I you know, I now in the park with the political field it was more it was entertainment factor, right It was it was entertainment factor and I like commentators over Uh, what would you call? Newsreaders Did you watch him on current affairs because that's that's what I thought the first time I saw him on fox It's like wait a minute. Wasn't that guy in current affairs? like I remember current affairs I remember seeing him on there, but I don't really know who he was because that's where I remember him from It's like wait a minute that guy used to use do like a lightweight version of the inquirer and people magazine on tv Now he's like a news anchor Did you did you ever watch uh the robert? Oh, is it um Is it the robert donnie jr. Show or the really lead a variety show man What was what was the what was the time I know what you're trying to say and I can't remember it now either Now that you said robert donnie jr. I'd like no, I didn't say jr. Said robert or should be robert I think something downy. It was something jr. Though. You're right downy jr. It wasn't downy though That's it. I think it was If robert donnie jr. Had a variety show I am I am gonna flip my stuff Any singing and I don't think he was like the lab. He was like the lab. It was the Morton downy jr. Show That's yeah No, I have never heard of that. You have never seen it. He was like He was a loudmouth on tv that used to follow uh, phil donahue and uh, montel like everyone else Really kind of copacetic and tried to be like The great bridge between between the various you know the various uh People on stage and morn downy jr. Just a loudmouth. He would just scream at it It was like a shock jock if a shock jock had his own kind of like daytime talk show Wow, I forgot all about morn downy jr. Oh this guy. Okay. You know what I I know it in like I don't have any connections to the show, but I just saw his picture. I reckon I do recognize him He made fun of him with uh, dick detricks up all night or was it the uh There's The early 90s Yeah, I think yeah like the the staid edward r. Murrow objectivity uh became Too stale And so there was a big movement and radio started it to like put perspective pov Shows out and and bill o'reilly was a big big part of that As was rush limba And I feel like there's there's a balance to be struck Because the problem with going full pov sometimes is that you lose sight of the facts and there really is a value into Expecting what's possibly true versus just spinning everything to fit your theories. I agree with you But that but you're right. Like if it's always very dry factual information, it's not very popular because people it's it's like You know, yeah, there's enough people who will do the actual building of a other thing But sometimes you need the kit that makes it easier It's like the the the entertaining news shows are the kit that makes news interesting for people who otherwise wouldn't watch news Mm-hmm. Yeah, I just I don't know. It's just something about the the 530 News would tell you the time broke all whatever and I mean It made me wonder like are they reporting? Are they are they reporters if you did? They're glorified reader. They're glorified readers. And I don't know. I just They come from the walter Cronkite era of news Anchors like they were all journalists, you know in the field and you know, they built a reputation And that's what you were that's what you're listening to you were listening to them Give the news because you trust them They were journalists you right in the end like they did get out in the field More so than then well because they were going to be held responsible for what they said So there's a certain amount of just even when they weren't in the field like vetting that what they're about to read is actually the right Stuff that's the right. Yeah, remember. There are only only outside of pbs and whatever your local station There are only three national broadcasters. Yeah at the time. And so that's what your voice of authority came from Okay, I got you placed it with a bunch of 20 year olds who glibly talk about stuff. They actually haven't a clue about Actually, I'm sorry. I'm gonna say did you just say youtube or I didn't hear what you said it was very clearly Like they got replaced by reddit so a bunch of 20 year olds can Glibly talk about things. They don't really know anything about Gotcha, but then I said wait that actually applies to the internet. That's the whole it is the whole internet Well, yeah reddit isn't just 20 or 20 year old. Well, they sound like it They sound like everyone I do my first year in college Well, tom just disclosed to me earlier. They he didn't respect me when he first met me. So That is not true. That is not what I said at all You're billo riley me Stop it Like who is this guy? He thinks he's the world's funniest one. I just said All I said is when when because the first time I ever saw lemar I didn't even meet you I just saw you look because you showed up on one of the apple keynote coverages We were doing on twit and introduced yourself as Again, I always get it wrong, but Well, uh, the title was world's funniest tech reporter world funniest tech reporter I was like, okay. I was skeptical But the point of saying that was to say and then once you started talking I was like, oh, this guy is funny and he does know what he's talking about. That's awesome Yeah, you know, I vaguely remember you like, huh world's funniest, huh make a joke, buddy You do You know lemar you're a quick you're a quick study. You've learned all the tactics of your much beloved o'reilly No kidding, man. I want a hot seat there Let's try to say something nice It's it's funny. I back in the time I would have loved. I mean, that's just before youtube I would have loved to do a show like that. I just Like now I couldn't I I don't have the heart to to be like that to people Well, because it's it that was that was interesting for a while and now it's it was it's now it's become harsh and Everybody's doing it. It's like it's not it's not uh, and it's got mean versus You know, because it felt like a rally he did but he was also smart Like he also felt like he knew what he was talking about for at least the issues I was interested in um And I feel like the successor to that is the daily show last week tonight Like that's that's good point. Good point. That's sort of the the next wave Well, what next week tonight is actually I would say even more so because last week last week tonight Next week. Yeah. Oh, you know why because I mixed up with that Australian show today tonight Uh, isn't that isn't an Australian? I think you're right. Yeah. Yeah, so many tonight shows Uh, but he you know, you know, Oliver is very candy. He's like, I'm not a journalist I you know, his show is very much His viewpoint of how he sees he sees things and I think it's you know, it's it's good You know, he cultivates a certain kind of personality I think gels with a lot of people that Want to hear more of what he has to say and so it's more of a personality driven thing Like you couldn't do that show with someone else. You couldn't replace him You know with well, but that that is the daily I mean it is a version of the daily show So I think you're right that it's personality based but I think many personalities can do shows like that now And I guess my point of bringing it up is that it was sort of the reaction to the meanness of of the talk show format Even though they're not always nice. At least they're trying to be humorous. And so I mean Colbert was exact. I mean that was exact personification of all rally, you know in the sense Papa bear Yeah, I really enjoyed that I really like that show it's kind of weird to see him do and integrate that stick into into the How has he done it because I I don't watch I don't watch any late night TV He'll do monologues stuff that that would have been a Colbert segment But he's not being Colbert just being Ironic or satirical now. He's not okay character. So this is voice. Does he still have the same Not that voice as far as like mimicking like this. He's have the His same comedic tone Yeah, he does His his patter is is pretty pretty much the same. Okay. It definitely feels like it's Colbert related. Yeah, okay. I have to watch I have to watch it It's it's you know, you know, what I've noticed especially with The desire to make everything very clippy like you can put on youtube is that they do a lot of Content that you can find on youtube and it's kind of specifically aimed for it I mean, there's the same reason why jimmy fallon does all those kinds of game show elements with guests because that stuff is Things they can easily pull out and stick on youtube or whatever Right. We're in a very good show. Yeah But it's good. It's good. Yeah That's actually pretty cool. Yeah, I don't think letterman's old show or tonight show in the past ever really tried to do that So it's interesting to happen now more and more like Jimmy Kimmel really has taken great gone crazy Carson used to do a bunch of skits like he he pulled from the old vaudeville style Like I'm gonna integrate some of my was the one the great card act was like the one I used to love a lot Where you put on the like kind of uh, oh, I remember that I remember that. Yeah. Yeah, okay classic classic cousin All right gents, uh, we're gonna take us off the air but thanks everybody for watching Thank you. This was that was a fun uh post conversation. Yeah, everybody thinks i'm in a riley fame, which is not true The past the past a rally Thanks everybody for watching or listening. We'll talk to you tomorrow