 I was just wondering if you would elaborate on the book of Enoch talks about the the spirits of the Pre-Flood Giants also Isaiah 2614 Alludes to the Raphium that they will not rise What is your take on that? I guess the theory that the spirits of the Pre-Flood Giants became the demons of the New Testament Yeah, they're if you're not familiar with second temple angelology and demonology In books like Enoch and Jubilees and other sources too The Bible itself again what we look at as the canonical Bible does not ever give us an explanation for where demons come from In fact demons are only mentioned twice in the whole Old Testament The New Testament, you know, it becomes more of an item But we're never really told where they come from now in In The literature between the testaments There's a lot of discussion on that and Enoch is sort of the primary example where demons come from in in Jewish theology So like if you read the encyclopedia of Judaism or something like that, you're going to you're going to see this In in ancient Jewish theology where demons come from is when the sons of God Cohabit with the human women they produce Nephilim and the giants, you know Just go crazy and they start killing people and cannibalizing and all this kind of stuff. It's just it's just really bad So God says we need to wipe them out And when you killed one The immaterial part of that Nephilim being The spirit part became a demon And they were sort of sentenced to be disembodied in Rome all over the earth And and they were allowed to do that a certain number of them were allowed to do that And you know harass people and this is standard Jewish theology You don't actually ever see that taught in the Old or New Testament. There are certain things that would would sort of Go with it. In other words would cohere with the idea for instance Some of the episodes in the gospels about the the demons Possessing people some scholars think that the whole idea of possession Harkens back to this idea that demons seek re-embodiment And you have you have Certain turns of phrases in the New Testament describing what demons do and the strong man and you know It's just they're they're just phrases. They're just illusions But you can find similar language very very similar language in books like Enoch When they're discussing this thing. So the question is is this a direct illusion back to that should we import this theology into this Again, I I I personally I'm not really Decided on that I would I would like to see more textual connections Before I draw that conclusion But I'll admit that there there are some things about what the New Testament says about demons that would make sense in that context I just don't know. Well, I I can tell you I do know that I can't say the New Testament teaches that But again, some of what it does teach would fit In that framework and that that's really all we have. I mean it it's evident from other places again Peter and Jude that they are They're what they're what they're articulating about their own angelology is informed by Enoch that there's no doubt about that The classic example is in 2nd Peter 2 Where Well, Peter twice talks about the angels that sin Well, there is no angelic sin in the Old Testament except for Genesis 6 Okay, and it mentions that they were put in chains and cast into darkness and one passage has them in Tartarus Okay, well the whole idea of being cast in chains and put in darkness that is not in the Old Testament That's not in Genesis 6 Where it is is books like Enoch So you actually have content elements from that book that are that are put into the New Testament that become part of Peter or Jude's articulation Of their demonology and Tartarus is the place where The offending titans again depending on where you're at in the history of Greek mythology You know the the titans in some cases are divine beings in other other cases They're giants and the offspring of the first generation and You know scholars of Greek religion have noted that they're actually two separate and distinct traditions that sort of get married And merged into one at some point in in Greco-Roman thinking But the place where they're punished Is Tartarus? It's a term that comes from Greek material again outside the confines of the New Testament It would have been part of their world. So they're reading this stuff and again You know since I take a very providential view of inspiration It informs their worldview and God is fine with including it In the in the text of the bible doesn't mean those sources are inspired It just means that they They help them articulate what it was that is inspired So beyond that, I don't really know, you know, what we can really conclude safely As far as the book itself and and and what it teaches there are certainly things in Enoch that I don't think are true at all You know, so I'm not gonna I'm not going to baptize the thing and and say well Tartilian was right, you know I'm not going to do that But I think it's it's worth reading all of that material because they read it And they were they were very well aware of it and in some cases it helped them say things that they wanted to say and You know, we have we have the heritage of that