 What's the word, y'all? Hey, things are going crazy with the Pacers right now. I'm starting this video talking about them going rebuild, and I just got a notification saying, TJ McConnell's gonna miss the next couple months because he had an injury on his torn ligament in his hands. The Pacers got a lot going on, dog. They decided to go full rebuild according to Shams. They've had trade talks centered around Karris Leverg and either DeMonte's a bonus or Miles Turner, and I'm putting a big emphasis on or because that makes a lot of sense to me. We're gonna talk about that later, but the Pacers have made a decision, and we've been talking about this for the past couple of months that they needed to make a big decision because even though they have, if you look at their roster, you say, is that a good NBA player? You answer yes, and you won't answer no until you get to player number 10. They have so many consistent, solid, good players, but for some reasons never worked together or hasn't worked together, so they had to shake some things up. Similar to what we said about the Portland Trailblazers yesterday, the Indiana Pacers have been one of the pillars of consistency. They've made the playoffs like eight out of the last nine years, and then last year, they thought the reason that they didn't make the playoffs short of season, and they had coach Nate Borkeren, who was basically throwing fistfights on the sideline, and they bring in a guy like Rick Carlisle, thinking that Rick Carlisle, with his experience and him being one of the better coaches in the league, will write the ship, and obviously starting off 10 and 16 has not been what they wanted, and they finally have made the decision to go rebuild, and I am happy for the Pacers fans, but I'm happy for the league because the timing of this, if there's any silver lining Pacers fans, the timing of this is perfect. Okay, perfect might be a little bit of a stretch, but I'm just saying the timing is good, right? Look at this, look at everything. In the Eastern Conference, you have 12 teams that are still trying to compete to be good, and then the Pacers, again, you're going to rebuild the magic, and the Pacers are rebuilding teams. There's at least 12 teams in this Conference that are trying to get better, right? And in the Western Conference side, it's about 12 as well, maybe even 13, because the Pelicans aren't trying to be bad, they just don't have Zion right now. So there's so many teams out there that will be looking to add upgrades, and again, you have so many consistent, decent players that if you are looking to go for rebuild, this is what it looks like they're doing, this is a good time because you have teams that are willing to probably part ways with some future assets, because it seems like the league might be open this year, but next year and the year after that. But these traits are so very important, so very important because you have a guy like Damata Sabonis, who is an All-Star Calibur player this season, they took away some of his touches, Rick Carlisle has been trying to change the offense a little bit, so he hasn't looked as great as previous seasons, his previous All-Star seasons, but everybody that's watching the Patriots, everybody that's in tune with the NBA knows that Damata Sabonis is still an All-Star Calibur player. But the ore, let's talk about the ore in that, because it says Damata Sabonis or Miles Turner. I asked people on Twitter, we don't get to some of the traits that y'all have divvied up yourself, it seems like more people are invested in Miles Turner because he is such a high quality role player slash starter, and he might be easier to incorporate to a mid-season team. Damata Sabonis is one of the players that you look at to be one of the focal points of the offense, but Miles Turner on the other end is a stretch five that defends the paint. It seems like every team across the league can use those type of services, so the ore is very, very, very interesting, and I wonder if teams are starting to call the phone and they're getting good offers for both players, will they decide to make a decision to trade both? I don't really know. Keras Levert is a big name in this one because Keras Levert has not been good this season. He's had a tough year or so of his life, let alone the basketball side, so I don't want to fault him too much about what was going on in the court, but he hasn't really worked out. The really weird part is the two pieces of Rick Harlow who signed here to try to be the help, and now he's about to be a coach of a rebuilding team. That don't seem like something Rick Harlow wants to go through. He left him a playoff team to get another team that he wants to elevate to a playoff team, but hey, I don't know. And then they extended Malcolm Brogdon, who's at least there for the rest of the season, who's another player that can probably get you something decent. So a lot of these articles by Shams when they put out these reports is a lot of filler. They let you know at the right of the report they're going towards a rebuild. Some things in here are actually interesting to me. TJ Warren, they asked TJ Warren what he wants to do. He said he wants to stay in Indianapolis, which makes sense. I mean, as a player in the whole year, and honestly, I don't see teams knocking down the doors to try to get TJ Warren after not seeing him because he probably won't be bubble-worn again, right? The second interesting thing to me is it says that team president Kevin Prichard has tried to convince the owner, Herb Simon, a rebuild was necessary, including in 2017, Kevin Prichard has been trying to rebuild this team for four years, though. And the owner was like, nah, we're okay. We'll be in the seventh seat. And that's literally what it says in here. He's okay. We'll be in the seventh seat because he wanted to keep butts in the seats. So in 2017, Kevin Prichard went up to the owner and said, we need to rebuild. He was like, no, we're gonna get Derek Collison, Bob Donovitch, we're gonna get Corey Joseph. And I knew that the Pacers were dead last in a tennis this season, but I didn't know it was as bad as what it was. They're getting about 13,000 people in the seats. That's not good. And that was all that Herb Simon needed to know that it was time for a rebuild because nobody wants to see a, I've said this before and people always take offense to it. They are a boring and mediocre team. You can't be both. If you're gonna be born, you have to be good. If you're gonna be mediocre, you have to be fun to watch. You cannot be both. And they've been both for the last two seasons. So it is time for a rebuild. The fact that they might not trade both of these players and they already have Malcolm Brogdon and a coach like Rickard, this is, y'all know me do these videos. This is not scripted. I'm just thinking aloud. I don't know if they're wanting, they want to hit the full complete reset, right? Because they said or, if they wanted to hit full reset, both Sabonis and Turner have high value on the market. So if you wanted to hit full reset, you wanted to get a ton of first round picks, some young talent, it's about trading all the way, but they said or, which means that that might be going towards a slight reset more than a full rebuild. But man, man, man, whether it be Sabonis or Turner, whether it be Sabonis or Turner, those players can turn the tables of a team that is trying to compete right now, for sure. Now I asked y'all on Twitter for trades. What I have learned over the years of asking y'all for trades that none of us should get a GM job because more likely than not, a lot of the trades that we draw up as NBA fans are gonna be bad. But I'm curious, I haven't even looked at the replies. She said, so let's go over some trades and talk about some potential offers. I'm gonna start off with a trade but my guy CSB, he is one of the Pacers fans that I follow on Twitter. He's also an OG in the YouTube community when it comes to rebuild. Shout out to CSB. And he threw a trade that his buddy healed Marvin Bagley in a top 10 protective first for Demata Sabonis and Jeremy Lamb. That's coming from a Pacer fan which surprised it to me that he valued Sabonis basically as lottery filler and one first round pick and a flyer on Bagley who asked to get paid eventually. I hate this deal for the, if the Pacers put off this trade, I would be super annoyed if I was a Pacers fan. But CSB is a Pacer fan and he sees this trade and he thinks I like it. I don't know, you tell me. For the Kings though, yeah, if you can get Sabonis on the Kings for that type of package, do it 1,000% of the time. But I just don't think that's enough. Snowballer says, Turner for Malik Beasley and Josh Akogi, the Pacers get a guy that can be a lead and score if the opportunity was there in Beasley. I don't know how truthful that is and get a young defender in Akogi, the Wolves get a big, the parallel side cat and take the defensive load against perimeter defenders. SSS perimeter centers, dyslexia. This trade is bad. If I'm thinking about a reset or rebuild for a team, I'm thinking about young future assets and though Malik Beasley and Josh Akogi aren't old NBA players, I just don't know what their ceilings hold enough for me to trade away Miles Turner who's been the hardest soul of that team for the past couple of years. He's been the leader of that team for the past couple of years. And this just doesn't feel like enough for me. As far as rebuilds go, this trade comes from Cole. I always gotta look at what people profile pictures is. He's a Celtics fan. Okay. Mason Plumbly, Vernon Kerry, Jr. James Book Knight in a first round pick from 2023 for Miles Turner. I don't know if this is a trade that pulls it off, but if the Charlotte Hornets are not blowing the phone of Kevin Prichard up, they doing something wrong. Because I've always said, I think we said this for the last couple of years, that they just need a good center with Lamello Ball and the rest of that team and they can elevate themselves exponentially. Is that how you pronounce that word? They will elevate themselves to the next degree. Do I mean that contender? Probably not. But they've been able to be a solid team without a good center. And now if you could get a good center, if Miles Turner is available, the Hornets need to go all, not all in. They need to go in on him because they need a player like him. I've seen a lot of Bulls related things in these comment section. This one's from my guy Corey. Shout out to him. Very good YouTube channel. Go check him out. And he says, the Bulls gets a bonus and Martin and then the Bulls give up Brown Junior, White and Patrick Williams. And the contracts make sense. I forget that the Monsignor Bones is on such a bargain of a deal. And I keep seeing traits similar to this, revolving around similar to this. And I'm torn. And I'm torn on a trade like this because if the patients are going to rebuild, of course, of course they want young players. Patrick Williams is only 20 years old. He was the youngest player in the draft when he got drafted. And I think he showed just a fraction of what he could be, like a fourth of what he could be as an NBA player. Kobe White is 21 years old. And I think he is a guy that can light it up. And if he was given the keys, he can, he can go out there. I think he can be a player that can average 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 points eventually. But I don't know if that's me being a Bayez Bulls fan. Am I overvaluing my own players? And I, cause I think we do that as fans, right? I watched Patrick Williams every night for this rookie season, the first couple of games before he got injured. I watched Kobe White every single game of his NBA career so far. So maybe I overvalued them just a little bit because those are my guys. Do I suppose an all-star caliber player as a Bulls fan, trading away, it's a little bit scary trying to trade away our super young pieces, our super young pieces because it's like, really makes you buy-in to the now. And if the now doesn't work, which is like two years down the line, doesn't work, now you just got no young assets at all. I mean, we still have Ayodasumo who's like the goat, right? But it's, it's a bit weird. And I will worry about Demontus Abonis and Vucovic as a front court. Like really worry about that. But y'all let me know. Pacer fans will do one Patrick Williams is so good or could be so good. Yeah, I think that's me saying he's so good is overvaluing him right now. I think he could be so good. No shot at the frosty, the real frosty. This is not, this is not about you, but these are the caliber of trades that I've been seeing in my mentions. So you have Duncan Robinson, Gabe Vinson, Kasey Opala, Omir Yurt 7 and a first round pick from 2024. And the heat are getting back Turner and Chris Dorte. He tells you why the heat would do this trade, but he doesn't tell you why the heck the Pacers would trade these two players for this collection of, of like eh and a future pick. We gotta, we gotta think about it from both sides, brothers. Let's, let's, let's you try to be civil here. Young Simba says these are his four realistic trades to blow it up. If I'm not mistaken, Young Simba is a Pacers fan. He is. So this is another Pacer fan coming in with his, his input, right? Derek Jones Jr. in the first for TJ Warren. I'm telling you, the Bulls don't want TJ Warren. No, one year left on his deal and he hasn't played all season, where I'm not trading a pick away for that. Absolutely not. The next room is Bagley Halliburton, two first and sabonet, four sabonets. Now I think this is a little bit too much. Two first round picks and Reese, cause I don't even look at Marvin Bagley as an asset at the moment. He's more like roster filler in a trade like this. I don't think this is very realistic. This will be a gold mine of a package, getting two King's picks and Reese for sabonets. I don't know how realistic that is. Wise Men and Kaminga for Turner. Now the Warriors one is one that I've seen a lot, a lot of different ways to make the Warriors one work. And Miles Turner on the Warrior sounds disgusting, but I also seen some people have sabonets end up on the Warriors. And the last one, not, not a terribly unrealistic trade. I mean, I guess it really depends on how much you value Kari Slivert and how much of what's going on right now. Do you see as real versus him just being in a slump? But the Mavericks are a team that's definitely looking for a secondary ball handler. Kari Slivert has showed he's a second, it literally says right here, secondary ball handler. That's hilarious. And you're giving up trade in the contract of Dwight Powell. And I mean, you're giving up a future pick, but I don't know. I want to go back to this Warriors one and talk about the Warriors as a trade piece. Because the Warriors have assets. I think the Warriors have done a great job. And this was one of the things that I was questioning coming into the season if you remember early on. How are they going to be able to balance the super young pieces that they have in Wiseman, Kaminga, Moody, and Jordan Poole? How would they be able to balance all of that while still being contenders? Obviously they've done a damn good job. Basically Wiseman hasn't played. Kaminga plays spot minutes every once in a while. Moses, Moses, I almost said Moses Malone. Moses Moody has played a small amount of minutes. Basically what they're saying is we're going to try to develop these players on the backside and still let Steph Curry do a stake, right? And it's been working out. But if they really wanted to go all in, they could use these pieces to get a Turner or a Sabonis. And I've seen people talk about Sabonis on the Warriors, they're like, oh, how does that fit? It would. You talking about another playmaking dude? I know the defense might suffer a little bit, but they have the best defense in the league with Kevan Looney and Draymond Green. They got the defensive player of the year so far this season, Draymond Green. I think they'd be able to mask over some of Sabonis' defensive liabilities, right? And that's not side of Kevan Looney, he's a good defender. But Sabonis on this team adds a whole different element that they've never really had in this organization, at least in the Steph Curry years as a guy, I guess David Lee kind of works, as a guy that's back to the basket that can also be a playmaker. Now you might have to reformulate your entire office so maybe that's not a good thing to do. But if you're talking about a team that has an asset pool that is a championship caliber team that may want to level up, the Warriors are the perfect case for this. It's just a matter of whether or not Bob Myers looks at James Wiseman and think that he can be a player that can play with Steph Curry because through the first X amount of games of his Indian career, he hasn't been able to do that. But the Warriors are a scary team because they have so many of these younger assets and they still got picks and they wouldn't even have to trade Wiggins to make some things work because Wiggins had always been, when they were thinking about star players to put on the Warriors, Wiggins had been a Sally Feller, Sally Feller, Sally Feller, but a guy like Miles Turner and a guy like the monster bonus are making no money. They making pennies on the dollar based on what they can actually bring. So you don't even need to throw in Wiggins. That's a scary ass team. Bro, looking at this, I can talk about trades all day. I'm seeing some Raptors fans trying to get into the mix which I like, they're trying to give Miles Turner because their center, which is precious to you, one of their centers is shooting like 30% from the field as a center or something similar to that. So I understand wanting to get another center. But more likely than not, all of the trades that we mentioned today and I got 500 replies to this tweet, 99% of them are bad trades, you know? But it's always fun to like just go to the trading machine and try to make something work. Pacers fans, tell me how you feel in the comment section. I'm gonna continue to look through these because people are making some very interesting points and interesting, not always being a positive word. But either way, Pacers hit the reset button, perfect timing, they gotta make the right trades and it'll work. As always, y'all, I need y'all to continue to enjoy basketball and I'll see y'all tomorrow.