 It's a unique hustle, big shit, big shit, big shit. It's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit. Name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely, outstanding, amazing, official Mr. Maker. What's going on? Nothing, I'm a dead walker. Man, hey man, this is a day that the Lord has made. I will rejoice and be glad in it. You know what I'm talkin' bout, so. Check it man, so we got special guests here today, man, this guy right here, man, I've been tryin' to get on the show for weeks now, you know, and every time he was so busy, couldn't make it. Well, we got him in here today, guys. We just gonna love on him for a little bit, man. Check it out, my boy Vincent Grimes in the building. What's goin' on, man? What's goin' on, man? How you doin'? Man, man, I'm chillin', man. What about yourself? I'm doin' pretty good. I'm doin' pretty good, yes sir. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the thing, the thing I say, man, is I heard about what you're doin', and I think it's outstanding and amazing as well. You know what I'm sayin'? The thing I wanna say is, man, I've had a few people on here that has had situations with visuals where they create different things. So, you know, when I heard about yours, I was like, man, we gotta get him on here. We had C. James on here. We had the actor, what's his name? Antonio Diego on here. Yeah, we tapping into that world, you know what I'm talkin' bout? That's the real world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody, and we was on a couple of episodes already, too, we was on Corey, Bane. Yeah, well, this show was on that. Famous. Famous, and then we was also on... Breakfast Brothers. Breakfast Brothers, Ricky Booker. We was on his channel as well. What was it? A cookin' channel, yeah. So, man, it's been good. I mean, we just drove up in this thing about six months ago. That's how we've been running. We keep sayin' six months ago, but not seven. It's actually more than seven in January and we were in September, so that's nine months. Well, I keep nine months. So you had to stop sayin' six months. You know a checkmate. Like our son be doin' checkmate. You right, so nine months. Nine months. Time flyin' by. Time flyin' because you be workin' and we did all that trial. I think we did that trial because we took the show on the road. We went to Cali Vegas in Atlanta. First time gettin' out of the studio to do that. Now they playin' with you. Man, come on, bro. We different. Right on. My daughter said we built different. You know what I'm talkin' about? Right on, right on. Built like that. Yeah, built like that. Yeah. So, man, just to get into it a little bit, just tell us a little... I know you from Dallas. Right on, right on. What, just where you grew up at? Yeah, where you grew up at and did you always wanna be in this industry? Not at first. I was in the rap industry at first, you know what I mean? But I kinda floated over to that. I started... How did you start up in the rap industry? You got bars? Right. I had a little boss back in my day. Back in my day, I had a little boss and we actually started doing comedy shows at first. And Roy Lee was one of my main comedians I was dealing with and he passed. So we felt like this would be a good opportunity to go ahead and make him a legend, go ahead and make him live forever. You know what I mean? So that's where the documentary came from. But you never did one before this? No, this is my first documentary. That's what I'm talkin' about, man. So, but that inspired you to do this? Yes, yes. That inspired me to do this. Just dealing with Roy Lee and being close to him, I felt like it was an important documentary that had to be done, so... And how do you like it so far? This documentary, have you finished it? Yeah, we pretty much finished. We just doing the narration parts to it right now, but all the film and all the editing and everything is done. How long did it take you? This documentary took me three years to make. Three years. Yeah, we've been grinding with this for three years. Where did you find, of course, you could probably say YouTube, but where did you find and know how of, cause you've never done it before, of how to do this and do it efficiently because I'm sure there's a lot of people out there who are teaching you, but it's not always the best route to go. I would say that Jeff Fadir, he's a... Shout out to Jeff Fadir. Yeah, he's Jeff Fadir been holdin' my hand through this whole process. Oh, that's awesome. Right, Real Life Street Stores Joker. He's been holdin' my hand through the whole process. Shout out to Real Life Street Store. So, yeah, I had them film and Jeff edited and we kinda just puttin' it together. I'm kinda directing it and I'm the executive producer. So I look at the final product and make sure it's what I feel like it'd be good and then we'll go full... So everything is mainly your idea? Yeah, yeah, and it's mainly my ideas and what I think should happen. You know what I mean? They kinda make it happen. So how much of his life are you portraying in, because I know that in a documentary, just like when we watch documentaries of anybody else, they can't tell everything cause you can only fit it into some, you know, a small amount of time. How long will your documentary fit be and how much of his life are you puttin' in there? Well, we're goin' with the whole life and... Everything? Yeah, everything. And as much as we can get in there, we startin' from his childhood to the time he died. So, go ahead. So, yeah, it's like an hour and 15 minutes long. Oh, okay. Who pretty much gave you a lot of information that you didn't have? Who, how did you get that information? His family, his family, yeah, mother, sister, his baby mother, they all are big parts of helping me create this documentary. So, they lent a hand, the city of Dallas, pretty much every rapper from South Dallas, all the way to North Dallas, they lent a hand on what happened. The documentary is based on his life, but the chain of events that happened, we all are from Dallas, so we can have our opinion about what happened as well. And we just basically bounced. So, y'all did put the parts in there where y'all felt what sturdied in the way that caused him to come to his demise, or y'all didn't go all the way into it? We left that open for everybody. We just did our journalistic homework and just, this is what happened, this is what happened, this is what happened. The facts. The facts. Like, you call it, he didn't shot, that's in there? Oh, yeah, the call he got shot in is in there. Yeah, yeah, everything is, we didn't miss nothing. So, all of that is in there. We discussed all the wild things he went through in his life, fights in the club, wild women, all of that is in there. It's, we probably ain't missing nothing as far as the action. Yeah, because it was very obvious what was going on, you couldn't miss it. Yeah, yeah, you can't miss it. It's all over the line and how he felt is over the line. So, all the line. Did you get the part in that where he told Boosie, he looked like a PT crew? Well, Boosie told him, he looked like a PT crew. He looked like a PT crew. Yes, sir. That part is in there. Most definitely. Then he came back on and he said, Boosie, nigga, you like me, we both ugly. Right, right. Yeah, I remember. And we even got in there where Boosie and him met after that. Yeah, yeah, that's dope. Yeah, that's dope. It's all love. Yeah, it was all love with just something that they were messing around on. That's how it go, you know. Yeah, that's just a joke. Him and Boosie were actually good friends. Good friends, that's right. I've seen that. Yeah, yeah. I liked it too, man. That's the way it posed to be. Yes. You know what I mean? So, did you have to get anything in writing to say that you have permission to do this documentary on his life from family members and stuff like that? Yes, some similar to just the thing I signed when I walked in. Right. With the collection release forms. Yeah, exactly. And do you have to get that for each person that you put in the film? Yes, yes. You know what I mean? Because all these other people you were interviewing. Right, everybody in there has to sign one. Has to sign one. Yeah, so with the controversy, I'm always, I'm from the outside looking in. It seemed as if he had a beef with certain individuals, yellow and all type. Is that stuff in there or no? Yeah, that's definitely in there. I say yellow, that's the only one I can remember. I'm always saying that it was, they had issues and a fight and they wanted to fight for money, I believe it was. Right, right. Roy Lee wanted to. I don't know the whole story. Yeah, it's similar. And I ain't gonna lie to you. I rock with yellow, you know what I'm saying? I rock with it. Because this Dallas, man. And I love everybody, bro. I like to always say on the show, you know, you'll see different people on this platform because we gotta, at some point, as older men, I'm an older cap, we gotta find ways to bridge those gaps. You know what I mean? And try to bring people together. You got to. If you, I mean, even if it's gonna be, it's man, listen man, it been up and down, back and forth with everybody. Not just those individuals, but I've had issues with people. This is something that happens, but we are the ones that are here still, and we can find a way to try to figure out a way to bring people together. And it's gonna take guys like you and myself. Most definitely. Level ahead of guys that love everybody, that don't have no ill will, trying to come up with some kind of way to keep negativity going. We're not doing that. Not at Boss Talk 101. Now it's straight love over here. You know what I'm saying? So, and I'm like others, I'm willing to step up and say something to whoever and say, hey man, we love you. Because I lead it with love. Right, most definitely. You know what I mean? That's what a help bridge the gaps. And I feel like the documentary will show a lot of that. We had a lot of love for Roy Lee. He had a lot of love for our community. And we don't wanna isolate him just to that one thing. You know what I mean? Because more than anything, in the documentary you'll see he had a lot going on. I know y'all saying that Yellow Bees had something to do with it, but it was a few things that happened right before he died that ain't nobody talking about it. So it bring light to it. Yeah, yeah. So we might wanna revisit that, you know what I mean? And also, that's a good subject. So y'all have to watch the documentary to find out the information. The documentary is gonna be dope if y'all don't watch it. Y'all feel the lose out, man. We can cut some here. This is real, man. This some real Tripadishia right here. Already, it's gonna die. Yeah, I just wanna say that without saying it too much, but yeah. Who's narrating it? Charlie Moe from Real Life Street Stars. Okay, he's narrating the whole film. So and you basically, when you doing it, when Charlie Moe's narrating it's coming to him, is he on the visuals of it? And don't give a... He's not on the visuals. But he's just talking it through. He's talking it through. Just talking it through. Yes, sir, yes. Already, man. I can't wait to see it, man. When did the release date? October the 11th, we... That's why I don't know. That's right, Ron Connell, baby. Yeah, it's been a few weeks. And where? Texas Theater, the Pamuro Beach Theater. So we get to come? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Can people go online to buy the tickets? Yes, sir. I'm just mad, you can buy the tickets on a Venbrite or you can come and they $25 at the door. Yeah, yeah. How many people can fit in the theater? 564 people. Oh yeah. You gonna pack it out? Yeah, it's gonna be packed. Yeah, it's gonna be packed. That's why I'm trying to get VIP. So he's the only show in Florida. Nigga, I'm gonna VIP, nigga. Don't leave me in the back. I'm gonna be back down like this. Say, look here, my nigga, Vilsen. I'm over here, baby. Right off. Don't leave me in the back. Don't leave me in the back. I put it on my calendar. What's on my calendar? It said eight o'clock, doors open at eight o'clock. Film starts at 8.30, or the show starts at 8.30. I'm sorry. We have a special performance from Celebrity before the movie. Celebrity, the comedian is gonna do one quick sip before we start the movie. Okay, that's why it's at 8. Yeah, that's why I said 8, but the show starts at 8.30. The movie starts at 8.30. And I'm invited and I'm VIP. Oh yeah, I see me email up in the scene, too. I'm VIP. I just want you to know that. I'm a new fine celebrity in my whole life. You don't even have a VIP section. They're gonna have everybody. No, no, no, no. You get to go up to the front. Don't tell him that. Yeah. Don't do that. I get to go to the front. October the 11th. Oh, that's on a Monday at eight. Bob will be there. I ain't got nothing to do on Monday. Bob will study. Well, we gonna have Bob study in the parking lot. You'll go. Right. And that'll be, that's his memorial as well. Wow. It's gotta be the anniversary of him passing as well. Wow. So, mode three and him had a unique relationship. Is that in the document? That's in there as well. Cause he, I seen him after his passing, I seen some things transpiring him toward that fact. And a lot of the videos and stuff that he created eluded to the fact of certain things the way he seen it. Right. And the thing you gotta realize is you can't depict Roy Lee if you don't depict that part. You know what I mean? Yeah, you have to. Yeah, cause of the video of the church. You know what I mean? That church video. Yeah, take you to church. Yeah. Yes, sir. Yes, all that's in there. And we got a few things of mode three of how he felt about what was going on as well. So he was some time where he got vocal about what he felt. Yeah. Okay. So you've been a first time documentary individual. Executive producer. Yeah, let's get it popped. So I know that you have people are holding your hand but from your perspective, how easy is it to do or hard is it to do something like this? For person who don't know anything. I feel like, well, I feel like it's kind of difficult to do it, but as I've done completed this first one, the bug is bitting me. I'm already working on another one. You know what I mean? Another one for him or another one for somebody else? For another, another thing that we had going on. So you're thinking to go into movies or just stick straight to documentary? Yeah. I'm going to do a movie right now. So I downloaded the little script program. Hey, look out to your boy and your boy that got on TV. Your boy been practicing. Right on. You know, hey. Oh, he's trying to give you a little bit of it. Let me show you. Let me give you a little bit of it. I'm going to sing you a strip. Yeah. Yeah. Hold that dough. Oh, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that was me. That was me. Yeah. Yeah. What's up? What's up? Yeah, I'm going to get in that thing. Yeah. So you want me, oh. Because I've seen. Get in the car. We got to go. You know, that's acting. You don't know it's acting, but it really is going down. OK, let's get back to this. So, but because I've watched that. You know, when you watch documentary on TV, like on what documentary comes on? When they're talking about on the news and they're talking about the different. Well, you know, a documentary that we was in introduced to the other night. I'm getting to that. OK. Hold on. So on television, they have really good narrators and, you know, documentary, like detail, description of, you know, different research that they've done and so forth. How, from a one to 10, comparing yours to something like that? Right. How would you compare yours? That's what I would give. I would want you guys to expect to see when you come to see my film. Like, it's going to be very professional. We're going to rate you. Yeah, rate me and let me know. And even if you don't give me a 10, I understand that this is. Or you you guys should understand it. This is not my first. This is not my last. But I may get better. But how do you but how do you rate yourself? I know that and be totally honest. Right, right, right. I feel like that this film is going to be up to par. Yeah, it's going to be professional as far as the narration, as far as the cameras we use, the cameras, the transitions, the audio, the audio, all that. I knew it was going to be probably good because you know, he's Jeff Adair. Yeah, yeah. So I know because he does really good work. Yes, yes, yes. So that's the thing. Like I was so impressed by Jeff Adair that he's going to have it right, right. So I'm not worried about anything. Let me just say this. It's going to be very professional. Are you over shoulder looking at everything that he does? Yeah. When I say that because if you're moving on later on doing another film and maybe he's busy or you can't use him, you need to know what to expect from somebody else to do something or not to do it. No, it's definitely. And Jeff Adair is giving me that blueprint to follow just in case, but I ain't going to really stir away from Jeff Adair. No, I don't blame you. I don't blame you. And he a white boy, ain't he? Yeah, he a white boy. See, that's good. Anytime you put a nigga with a white boy. So I'm good. Oh yeah, you see, I can give you examples. That's Jim Aveen and Dr. Dre. Right, right, right. Give me some more. Steve Madden and Irv Gotti. Right, right, right. Yeah, they did some shoe stuff together. I can keep going. You want to keep going? It's Moe. Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson. Phil Jackson, there he is. Yeah, you put a black man and a white man together and you can knock some doors down. You know what I'm talking about? You don't know how to come at him. Right, nah, but it's better than America. It's definitely going to be a Dallas classic. Someday, everybody's going to want to see if you from Dallas, you're definitely going to check this out. And what we want to show, too, we had fans in Cleveland, like he had a big following in Cleveland, the guy who put the movie out, Rent Do, and he had, Roy Lee has a movie that's coming out in a few months called Legit Paper. OK. And it got a lot of main celebrities in there. This guy here, his name, his name is Ray Jr. He does a lot of films up top, and he was big about TV. So you've been working together with him? Yeah, yeah, but he's on the documentary as well. OK, cool. So all those things of the films that Roy Lee is in, that'll be inside of there, just to show you that he was a legend on the way. He was definitely on his way to making it big. Let me tell you something, man. I seen him. And when I seen him, I felt good about the energy he was bringing to the comedic platforms that he was getting on. The stuff that he was doing, it was joyful. And you know, he would have been more like a country Wayne or somebody. He was already working toward that, YouTube and stuff. All that stuff was going right now would have flourished if he'd have been able to be here because he was already headed in that right direction. He had the following. He had the momentum. So, you know, the thing that you can rest assured on when you look at a cheat, Nass, Myron, or if you look at a bubble dub that was on here the other day, or if you look at a country Wayne, you know what I'm saying, Jordan Jackson, any of those guys, the Jesse McDonald's, you know, yeah, yeah, he was especially in Dallas. We was on Roy Lee in 2014. You know what I mean? We in 2021. So he'd been doing it with his phone just like all those cast was doing way back then. And it's not a celebrity. Like when he passed, Pharrell made a big post about it. Wow. Offset. All this in the documentary too. Wow. Who else? You know Boosie, of course. Come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Ken Fo, he was big. He was big time. And he just needed the right part to really set him off like Chris Tucker, you know what I mean? Just get out of here with one of those roles. If he got to play a old man or something, you know how Roy Lee do his thing, he going to knock that out. Did he have children? Yes, he had five kids. Five kids. And that's what we're doing this for. You know what I mean? Man, that's dope. 70% of the proceeds to this documentary is going to the kids. And that's dope. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? That's things that I'm big on in my community. That's another reason why I did this, because I know him and I know what he's facing. Yes. So I'm like, we got to generate some money to get him. You know what I'm saying? Get these kids some shoes. Man, what you talking? Get this thing going. You know what I mean? Yeah, man, that's dope. I do his memorials every year and bring out. You know, last year, we brought our brother B and X. OK. Shout out B and X, man. Brother B and X. Shout out brother B and X. With the nation of Islam, huh? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And you know, OGU always helped me. OGU. Stumped down. And yeah, they the reason why I'm here today. Oh, yeah, yeah. OGU, shout out to Cory and what's that boy's name? Bruce Wayne. Bruce Wayne, give an invite me to the party, though. Yeah, I think I heard about the party. You ain't been on the platform yet. I joined the group calling you out right now. Make sure you tune in to this one. I'm trying to figure out when you're coming. Cory, give him the call. I'm right here. That's somebody that I need to talk to. Man, I love calling, man. It's called Boss Talk 101. It's very much called Boss Talk 101. What a boss is talk. So what did you used to do before you started doing this? Career-wise. Career-wise, I was doing comedy shows. I started booking Roy Lee for comedy shows. We were doing that about three, four years before he passed. OK. And we led to the documentary. I got it. Now, what inspired you? Because I know that people say, oh, you should do a documentary. You should do a documentary. But what, because people talk and but what inspired you to just get up and do it? Just knowing the situation. Or did someone actually come to you and say, hey? No, no, no. I mean, just knowing the situation, knowing the pulse of the city and knowing what he was going through. I knew that this would be something we could put out that the public would like they'll dig it. So I just said, I think you need to have a documentary. We trying to get him a flavor on exotic pop. That'll be coming out pretty soon. Give me a go ahead on exotic pop. Yeah, yeah. Who don't know that? I'm not sure who that thing's jumping. It's not where they're going to come by exotic pop. If y'all want to sponsor Boss Talk 101, we looking to try to get some sponsors on here, right? We'll rock with them. You ain't seen nobody else stuff in here right now. It's out of pop. You might all highlight. I don't know who the owner is. But check me out, man. It's going down. But that's all I want to do is just keep his name alive. I think you're doing a great job. And yeah, yeah, I'm trying, man. I'm trying and he got five kids and we want to make sure. How old are they? Reese, well, Jacob is the oldest. He 18, Reese is 14 and then he got three babies. They like three years old and two years old. Three and four, three and four, yeah. Wow, they was very young when he passed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two twins and a daughter. The twins was born in January, the daughter born in December. So they all was the same age for a few seconds. They all won when he died. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, that was real sad and unfortunate. So it very much, you know, it takes somebody to step up, man, and kind of make something happen. And that's basically what I did. You know what I mean? And I've been doing a lot of good stuff in the community as far as voter registrations and voter education and stopped the violence events. So by the time this happened, I was moved to go ahead and do it. Like what you was, what we were speaking about before the interview started, you know, I'm originally from Oak Cliff, but East Side representative for the 400, yeah. You see that, I see the red hat. Yeah, you got it. You got it. You got it. You got it, man. I love you guys. With that being said though, my street or the street, Collins Street where I'm from, it's a lot of negativity, you know? Okay. Drugs and all this kind of stuff. I was born in 1980, so I'm a product of that crack era. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. You know where everybody live with their grandmother because your mom and dad in these streets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So when I see his kids going through, what they're going through without their father, that just moved me to do something. You know what I mean? I think that's stand up, man. I think it's so stand up that you would even, you know, put something together like this. And I know he's looking down on you and he proud. You would have to be because you're doing this something from your heart, you know? And his kids definitely gonna, they're gonna look at you as ank, you know? They call me ank, you know, I'm old, you know? Ank, you know what I'm saying? You ank now. Right on, right on. But how hard was it emotionally to do this film? Yeah, it was real hard. It was a lot of crying. It was a lot of laughing too throughout the film. But, you know, when we interviewing his mama, his baby mama and we got the car, he was shot in and they still got bullet holes in it. And it was real tough. In some, some moments it was tough to making this, you know what I mean? There was a guy who was in the hospital with him when he got shot. And they talk about when Mo3 and Rainwater got there and what all was being said. Because you know they think that, you know what they think, okay? Yellow Bees and all that old type stuff. But this is a deep, deep conversation that they had between Roy Lee and Mo3 right then and there. And it may give you a little clue on why Mo3 started acting the way he started acting. You know what I mean? So, yeah, it was a lot of sad moments and tough moments, you know what I mean? I remember it was raining one time when we was filming and right when they was talking about Roy Lee dying, it started thunder, thunder. It was just real light. It was crazy in there. I hope you left all of that on the film. Well, we couldn't get the thunder in there, but we all in the room, you had to be in the room. It was like, wow. Because that would have been a cool moment to have all of that in there when that happened. Right, right, right. But you know, when I think about what you represent doing this, man, you're putting a staple in the history of what happened in Dallas, Texas, you know? Oh, yeah. You know, we have to capture these moments, man, especially for the kids. When you even look at Mo3, untimely demise, somebody will have to end up putting a budget behind doing something for that as well. Right, right. Because you want to depict these things, these things that happened for not only for the people but for their children. Right. And that was monumental in the city. Right. And I think this is something that you have to do if you are part of those camps or anytime you've been a part of the legacies that was happening in real time, then you gotta try to find a way to capture the moment. That's what this is about. Right. It was about that for me. Both of those guys worked so hard. So you want to give them their flowers, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't make it to the point they wanted to, but we want to make sure that we look at them as legends for the rest of our time here. And I think moments like this make us like Houston and like Atlanta. We getting our own little culture going down. We hate to see it happen this way. Yeah, I hate to see it happen this way. But this is what's going on. If it does happen, we have to go ahead and document everything. And I agree. Therefore, when the time is, when the time has come to tell Dallas story, we have it all there. Correct. But not only that, but for those kids as well, who are one years old when he passed away, may not even remember him or don't know him, so to say, to be able to look back on this and hear the story of his life. Most definitely. That's an amazing thing to have for them. Very amazing thing. So do you give me a story, a moment in time that, and it ain't got to be something that's in the documentary. So are you just saying or catching them something that Roy Lee would say to you? Roy Lee, he had a lot of catchy sayings. Something that he would say to you? Something he would say to me. He would always try to tell me to be careful of who I surround myself with. Okay. You know what I mean? By me being from where I'm from and what I got going on, sometimes I may be around the wrong person. Yeah. And he would always try to tell me, hey man, you got so much going on. You're a good one. We don't want to see that happen to you. You know, watch who you be around. You know what I mean? So that's one thing that I can remember from Roy Lee that we would talk about first time. Yeah, he'd say, do you watch us around this now? We call him what he said? Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. And I know you do. Yeah, I done slowed down a whole lot. You know what I mean? So, you know, I don't even be in the same places I used to be in. Yeah, yeah. That's probably why it was so hard to get him on the show. Exactly. But then, so do you, so what do you think about where things are today in Dallas, Texas? I feel like it's sad, the killing and the negativity that we got going on got to stop out here. So that's one of the things that I'm really looking at and sad to see more than anything. Yeah. But, you know, do you feel like there's something that, like I said, we talked a little bit before on, you know, I was looking more at like leadership, somebody in the state or the community to where people understand that this is, hey man, you can't do this because such, such, you know, they putting it down for the city. So tough. Somebody can stand up. You see what I'm saying? I think we all need to get down with Urban Specialists and OGU. I think they'll need about. I'm a member. Right on, me, myself. Are you a member? Okay, okay. What you talking about? We blocked in. We won, we won if he's a member, I'm a member. Hey! Yeah, definitely. I love what those guys bring to the table too. Yeah, they definitely are people I think about whenever I think about doing anything or saying anything sideways or negative and things and I don't want to do nothing to tarnish the brand. So, you know, I always try to keep myself in line. We definitely trying to. And Bruce Wayne and you know. Yeah, shout out to Anita Joar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She been on here too? Yeah, yeah, she been on, yeah. We love hard, man. So, let me ask you, so when you think about an organization that's out here to help people and we're all human beings, sometimes we think about doing things that we shouldn't be doing and so forth because you know, people get under your skin, you know, you react, whatever. Is, do you consider like if you find yourself in that position, do you pick up the phone and call somebody and say, hey, this is, you know, talk me out of this or da-da-da-da. Oh yeah, yeah, that's what they, that's what OGU, Corey, Bruce Wayne, it's so many of them, big milk, they all are for that. And if you're going through something, you definitely can call them and they'll talk you off their leads for sure. Bang, say that, say that. I see the stars, that's for the Cowboys? Uh, nah. What's going on? Is that banging? What's going on? Yeah, that's the fire stuff or some mold stuff. That ain't just really. I love it, man. I'm sure a lot of people ask you that. Yeah, yeah, they don't know. No, no, I had an idea. He know, he know, he know, he know, he know, he know. But what I want to know, how much does it cost to do a film like you're doing? Around $25,000. And he got it, because he's from Dallas, nigga, we got money down here. That's not, that's not bad. That ain't that bad enough, right? No, because you be thinking that. That's more on the lower level of doing it, but I think it's, I think it's more on the lower level of doing it. That's more on the lower level of doing it. But I think that I was able to get it for that price because I know everybody that I'm dealing with. I know real life street stalls way before we even got to, when we was in the streets, you know what I mean? Yeah. So I've been knowing Jeff Ader for a while. Roy Lee is very close with Jeff Ader. So I think everybody kind of gave me the player price. But do you have to pay people to interview them? You deserve it after all these years, right? Yes, yes. Did you have to pay anybody to interview them? Well, no, not interviewing. I actually did the interviewing. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. Because I wasn't sure if anybody, you know, because I'm trying to figure out what the budget went towards. I know the filming. Filming. Editing. Mainly that. Sites and like different locations. If we going to a Lorenzo Hotel, that was one of the sites and just different places like that would make the price of the fee. Okay. Because I didn't know if anybody would be like, you can't talk to me unless you're going to pay me. You know how some people might be. That's why I was wondering. No, no, no. It didn't go like that. It was very smooth and organized. I feel like Jeff Ader and Joker from Real Life Street Stars, they had everything taken care of pre-tent. Before we started shooting, we had a conversation of what to expect and what we wanted to happen. So once we started shooting, they were very good about just giving it up. And the reason why I asked that is because you never know who might be watching. Somebody out here might want to be a film director. Might want to know how to... Because people are procrastinators. You sit down and be thinking about it for a very long time and be like, you know how you shoot yourself down? You'd be like, man, that's going to be expensive. Man, this is it. And I realize that it is attainable for you to do it because you have no experience in it. But yes, you had the connects that helped you. So if somebody did want to start doing what you're doing, are you open for somebody hitting you upon Instagram or reaching out to you and say, hey, bro, can you help me get into this business? Oh, yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Hit me up and we'll make it happen. Where can they find you? Hit me on Vincent Grounds on Facebook or King Grounds on IG. And just inbox me and I respond. But he ain't going to come right away. Yeah, shout out to that boy Vincent because he busy. He might take me a few weeks. We was in L.A. when I called you. Oh, yeah? Yeah. In the interview. Yeah, I was way out there. I was like, man, I got to get him when I get back. But God made it happen and it's in God's timing. See, a lot of times people be trying to think they know what they're doing and I'm going to do this or I'm going to do that. But at the end of the day, man, it's already written how we're going to do it, when we're going to do it, and when we're going to leave this earth. You know, and I think a lot of times people get so caught up on their own agenda that they forget that it's written. So we can't take life for granted. We can't purposely say, hey, we're going to do this or that without saying, hey, man, if it be God's will. You know what I'm saying? That's what I always base everything on. Yeah, so he's down. How was it coming up as a kid for you? Oh, it was kind of rough. I mean, you had that money. Was you bred it up? Did you get that crack money? No, no. I like the boys. You're selling them hobbits? Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You're selling drugs probably about 14, 15 years old. 14? Yeah. But we weren't really getting no real money. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think the money thing came for me later on probably about 23. 23? Yeah. You really got to a deal. Yeah, yeah. Because you had time to think, you're like, man, when I get back out, I'm going to go on it. Yeah, yeah. He knew the trouble, nigga. And I know what to do to come up on this one. Right, right. What happened? Well, we had a good run by self-made gear. And the FBI came. They snipped the alphabet boys. Yeah, they're going to stop you from doing everything. That's what they do. Yeah, they started locking people up around me to where I knew I would have to either start dealing with people I did not know or go on here and sit down. And you decided to sit down and let it go? Yeah, yeah. My pops talked to me. He was a well-known hustler. You know, been doing this for years. See, nothing happened. Hey, man, this ain't, this is your exit point, you know what I'm saying? That's good that he said that because some people, some dads, especially in the business, would be like, no, you just got to do this. You got to do that. Right, right. Yeah. I thank God that he did that. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, I had daughters at that time, too. Yeah, that make a difference. That make a difference. You know what I mean? Any sons? Nah, nah. But I had some daughters and I just didn't want to have them go through the things that I saw young girls go through when I was out there in the street. So that made me sit down. That was a wake-up call. That's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I sat on the couch. At that time, I made my girl that I'm with now. You know, my baby mama, I made her get a job. Wow. She wasn't working. And I made her get a job. I sat on the couch about a year, man, and got my thoughts together and got me a job. Wow. I started with this little call, sent a little call, tell a performance, and worked up to be a supervisor. Listen, man. Five years. That's real boss talking. Yeah. That's another kind of boss talk. That's a whole different level of a boss talk, because that means you changed and conformed right there. You knew it was time to change after you had the conversation with the right person. Right, right. You're dead. Man, that's dope, man. And, you know, I've already had been in prison when they kissed me this time. I'm going to go do some time. It's good that she supported you by going to get a job. She didn't fuss or nothing like that about it. Well, she fussed a little bit, because our lifestyle changed. That's right. Some things she wasn't just comfortable with. But y'all still together enough. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, because when I thought about, you know what I thought about when he said that? I thought about how Tasha, she was like, no, you better get back out of the street. What you talking about, being legit? Right. You better get back out there. I mean, we had got to the point where we was doing so much illegal stuff to where she was scared that police was following her and different things. Yeah, apparently I know her. I'm like, you ain't even doing nothing. What they going to be following you for? Yeah, yeah. Hold on, man. So whenever that time came, she was ready. She was like, yeah, man, I'm going to get a job. You need to get out the streets. It's too much, you know what I mean? So. I want to go back into a little bit of just a little bit, a touch on your first time going to prison. What caused you to go to prison? Oh, I went on a probation violation. They get you like that every time. That was the setup. Yeah. You like, I shouldn't have went on to prison. Right, right. I should have went on to prison. I had a pistol charge and I ended up violating that and they took me. They took you. You know what I mean? They put on me a escape charge as well, but I ain't escaped from jail. No, no, no. They put it on you, though. Yeah, they did. Damn. Did you fight it? No, it's still on me now. It's on the record now. They think you're a rabbit when they stop you. Oh, yeah. Oh, that nigga run. Just stopped her. That nigga will run. I have short years and they put me in there with the rifles, man. I was like, yeah. Because you were the Texas 7 or Texas 5. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember, yeah. So they changed up everything right when I hit up in there and talked about if you will escape or you have escape, y'all going together. So how about made them think you escaped? Yeah. What made them think that? Well, man. You know what? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? When the nigga leave back. When he leave back. When he leave back. When he leave back. I just say, I ain't do it. You know what I mean? I ain't do it. I ain't do it. I ain't do it. I ain't do it. Man, y'all say, well, you know. I know when you get on life, you know, old boys say, yeah, that's a whole lot. He say, well, you think about this retirement home. And old boy, a claw told him, say, man, it's a whole lot better than where I'm going to end up. It's been a long time, man. Right. And he say, he say, and tell them when you're innocent, he say, everybody, everybody in there. They dance. Yeah. Yeah. I think that movie came out right when I when I was coming home. And I used to watch that all the time. I watched it. Yeah. I love it, man. That's one of it. And more than fun is if I get to work. I'm watching it. If I get on TV. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think he'll say it too. Yeah. Yeah. I got to got. I got to be a. Any genre. Any genre. I got to be a Texas boy and go with Pup C. You know I got to have. Don't look over that way like that. Say, let me tell you something, man. In the niggard that come on his platform is saying Pup C. And you ain't got to be mad at me. I ain't telling you that niggard is saying it in him what it is. Yeah, man. Because at the end of the day, that man get around that period you're in Texas and that's why come out rocks so hard for him because I know ain't no nigga on the East Coast ain't no nigga on the West Coast ain't no nigga give that nigga his his his rose is like we gonna do it right cuz it was 100 and he did it for a whole South right so what was your favorite Pimp C song see see that's all I needed no I got so many Pimp C song so I go around dirty that's that one buddy brother still telling what yeah right right that was hard man that was hard who's your number three my number three artists I gotta say if I want to be biased I gotta say you gotta get bigger you gotta get bigger he was so so you didn't even listen to Jay-Z nah I want you know what see that there go again no niggas the Texas they don't really want that you know they'll listen to you on the radio yeah yeah that's the only time we listen to put them in the day and we ain't trying and you a real stomp down rabble you used to rap what's that boy name my doggy little wheel yeah yeah you rocked out with a little wheel cousin young Zeke young Zeke young Zeke used to rap back in the days he was we coming to get the records we're saying him he still do a little he got ZTV shout out to ZTV he got a TV series going on yeah I need to link y'all like I used to rap before a little we're in them though I was like in the late 90s oh you was nemesis almost all right before Mr. Lucha now yeah yeah you were right who was hot outside of you though yeah I've been looking for that nigga I want that nigga on this show right yeah I need that nigga on this show bad that's my boy right there yeah I gotta have a man because he he just he's people don't really man I can word for word this song boy that what yeah yeah yeah all the ones that even the facts of life you don't even know me I think my last mixtape I was working on Gator man used to come through there a lot did he working on something studio we was in black town studio okay okay yeah I turn the now I don't know yeah yeah so so it was yeah back then that that was the two who else you say gay to me and I'm trying to figure out who else was you say them DSR boy fat fat bastard them had just started doing a thing boy them they were driving out and rock the block yeah when I hit the bam yeah yeah and I ate it in it pop you know yeah that was the first style yeah yeah that was the style though at that time killing that old yeah you know Mike Jones came through yeah yeah that was cuz he came him in a what was that old boy name slim though now the one was on there with with with with Mike Jones at first oh oh man oh Magnificent it was somebody might be Magnificent yeah yeah got drank and you said some Houston did go through a phase where you seen you seen fat fat pat die you see it get shot you seen what's the other Hawke Hawke guy kill you know they had DJ screw DJ screw died they went through a lot of big mellow big mo you know what I'm saying yeah yeah you know so they went through a lot of the same phases man and I just you know a lot of families man missing some spots and and and this is something that happens in the rap industry I'm being real yeah this happens and we have to be we have to be strategic with what we say exactly see back in the day we didn't say everything right right right now these niggas pointing the gun at the camera yeah they got you're smoking on Draco smoking on two kids I got one more question I asked you about documentary too okay Pukulira had a video with with him in it as well mm-hmm did was that even depicted on there I know oh no that was okay but you remember that video yeah I did I tried to reach out to Pukulira I couldn't get a hold of okay okay I did kind of want him to get on the documentary that would have been dope because they they had a good relationship yeah yeah they did yeah I mean you know Dallas just got a lot of different jewels right and a lot of times we may not come together when we need to and that's a part of the problem and and that means we need to figure out a way to organize in a way to where when it's time to do something that represent the city right we put all our differences to the side right represent the city man right and if we mad at each other we can't be mad at each other that day that was a lot of pulling teeth when I was making this documentary because a lot of people thought it was about them and it was really about Roy Lee it ain't about how you feel and anybody do you like this person or that person just if you was Roy Lee potting and something happened to him I need you here right now yeah what I mean yeah I got a little potter named thought of it used to like him to a lot he's from out of Marcia, Texas okay but he would always say man I gotta go see yeah okay I know who you thought of that yeah he's been on my Facebook sometimes yeah he loved Roy Lee okay he do even when he when Roy Lee was living I remember he was he was always trying to try and do something to reach out to Roy Lee and he's a guy who buys several Roy Lee merchandise yeah I'm a sister name Lily Daniels yeah yeah he's a real good guy yeah genuine my son and him real good friend okay yeah yeah that's a lot of support online and I always seen buying a shirt and posting this shirt yeah cuz he really loved him I mean he used to tell me here at this store when he was living yeah that's how I know like I remember the conversation when he'd be coming up here from out of town he'd be like yeah man I'm for the link with Roy Lee and he was so serious and sincere about it he really was trying to you know get that part together so that's real man yeah I did with real brother yeah yeah I appreciate that kid if it was anything that you could do different man you know if it was anything you could tell your younger self before you took that I ain't gonna say that that deferred you the cake or he gonna be like out of total don't sign it don't sign it take a little time or whatever they gonna get and get it over with excluding that excluding that I think I would tell myself and everybody that's young man quit worrying about what people are saying or quit trying to impress folks so much and getting caught up in just the talk of whatever the talk is right now and and just stay focused on your goals you know what I mean because a lot of us are the minute we get some money we trying to go put some put it on the camera or buy some Gucci shoes and things and if you'll save up a few Gucci shoes you can invest in the business wow I don't take them about four five thousand dollars man you got all that shit on you wow right now so you know bad investment bad investments man you can hustle up on four thousand dollars five thousand dollars you can hustle up on a on a down payment the first first payment to whatever you're trying to be you know what I mean so you know they say box trucks ain't number twenty five that's for you so you could do something with the thing I can say is man hey you you you said in the bar because ain't nobody been doing no documentary and I like that with the with the quality that I'm expecting for you I'm expecting it you see my quality right now don't play here yeah nigga yeah the cameras is only big yeah so I'm gonna be looking at quality if you seen our show you already know how I bring I think it should be trailer y'all can check out man it's two trailers online already online and we should have a third right I tell you what I'm gonna when I put this out I'm definitely gonna put out the trace way I appreciate you yes sir go ahead it's gonna be a wrap on this it's gonna be a wrap and ain't talking about the hard do you gonna definitely know that the production is up to par and everything so all right it didn't well hey man you know we love you brother love you to be on both two I want my ticket I want my I want my ticket oh yeah already email he sent you DM'd you the email okay I send those to you as soon as I get in the car and we put y'all in the guest list already man say thank you man for coming on boss talk one-on-one problem man I thank you and I appreciate you and your beautiful wife I can't detail how they could get a hold of my we already man check it man it's been another great segment of boss talk 101 and we have