 Who's got the bollocks? Who's got the minerals to get amongst this? Who wants to be a character of mine? Ricky, how are you, brother? Yeah, all good, mate. How are you? Yeah, you've been in the thick of it a bit. Yeah, it has been a bit mental, mate, the last week, yeah. Yeah. Bit crazy. Bit of income in. Yeah, mate, loads, loads. But listen, to be honest with you, there's been more positive than negative, much more positive than negative. Yeah, and that's what all this is about, isn't it? We want a positive outcome for the next generation, otherwise everything, not just us veterans have stood for and our forefathers, and let's be honest, what hundreds of thousands of millions have lost their lives over the previous century for our freedom. But also for all the parents out there, surely they must want the, you know, they've got a vested interest in this. We've got to get this right for our kids. So what I'll say from the start is massive love to everybody at home. Thank you for joining us. Just want to make it clear from the beginning, we're a podcast, we're just a voice. We broadcast on certain platforms. Some have different rules to others, and that's the way of the world. We're not here to promote violence in any way. We're here to promote love, peace, empathy, and the better way. And that's, I think, in line with the ethos of us elite forces guys, it's everything we joined up for. So what I'm saying is we're not, you know, we're not here to stir up any trouble. And we're also not here to talk about like specific stuff that may or may not have gone on in society over, you know, the last few years. We're here to talk about freedom and what it is. Ricky and I came into contact following the recent protest in London. Ricky and his oppo Marco. Rocked up there proudly wearing their parachute regiment berries. Again, I'm going to say on behalf of freedom. Ricky and I got in contact. We've had a few chats. I think our thinking is very much aligned. And we thought we'd just have a chat today, mate, didn't we? Yeah, mate. Yeah, it needed to be done. It did need to be done because I think it's fair to say, look, the media have had their say. Yeah, only right that we get both sides always important, mate, in any story, you know, especially when you kind of get to the truth. Yeah, exactly. And the truth is really obscured. If you only look at mainstream media, isn't it? Oh, yeah, of course, mate, you're only going to get you're only going to get one side. You know, if you're not if you're not willing to open your eyes to the other side of the argument, and there is always two sides, you know, no matter what you're screaming, there's always going to be somebody in opposition. But to to only go down just the one route and to only open your eyes or open your heart to one one person's voice. I mean, that sort of goes against everything that as you say, mate, our forefathers fought for in the first place, you know. Yeah, because I put a little video out, didn't I? And I just gave my, you know, I tried to give some sort of holistic perspective on what was going on, why you guys got featured so heavily in the media that day in the subsequent days. Also that the bias that was involved in the tweets that were going out from certain organizations, can we say and I was also hiding the contradiction. I mean, you know, we're we're veterans where we're I'm not going to say brotherhood because we're a family hood and for one person to be coming out and attacking you during a veteran's mental health and suicide epidemic is is it just highlights how far off the ball. A lot of people are with with not just their thinking but also their their loyalties. You might belong to a certain organization now and you consider yourself a self righteous spokesperson but this isn't about you. This is about the children in the next generation and who's going to stand up for them. You might protect your your job position in the short term. But yeah, am I making sense Ricky? I just try to highlight the, you know, what is essentially a difficult ground to cover, particularly on social media. No, mate, no, 100%. I'm completely with you on that. And, mate, you're right. Look, and we are in the middle of a suicide epidemic, mate, not only amongst veterans, but among among just everybody. I mean, look, this lockdown hasn't done anyone any favours. No one is only hurt the little guy, you know, the only people to to have to have benefited from from any of this saga that we've seen in the last 18 months, you know, and the men in suits and funny enough that the people that are advocating that we that we do these things that are not so great for us, you know, they're not so great for us. So no, mate, it's not great that certain people have stepped out of mind, especially when it's so clear to see what is going on. I mean, I almost feel a little bit. It sounds stupid to say, but I mean, I think we live in a world of people that have been so conditioned and programmed to be so out of touch with themselves that people really can't see what's going on before and you know, it's such a shame. It really is such a shame. Because if it weren't like that, then I probably wouldn't have actually been out with Marco on Monday. You know, this would have ended a long time ago. Yes. There's nothing giving us at the moment, Chris, they're all I see is division everywhere, you know, dividing control. That's the one, isn't it? That's the one order out of chaos and chaos out of order and they're doing they're doing a good job of it. You know, where we go forward from here, I don't I really don't know because I mean, we have to be honest, what more can the people do? Chris, I mean, people may not be aware. I mean, there's legal action in progress, you know, across a variety of different things that have been broken. And you know, I mean, legislation has been broken here by various I mean, there's so much evidence. I mean, I can't even get my words out. There's so much to say on the issue. And what astounds me is that so many people have not got access to this information. And that is primarily what Monday was about. It was about laying out demands to say, look, our voices need to be heard because what we're saying is it's the truth. You know, the truth is the only thing that's ever going to be consistent, you know, and eventually it will come out. Yes. I saw a couple of comments and fortunately it was very limited. And they were along the lines of, you know, veterans should just keep in their place and, you know, shut up, keep the berries at home and all this sort of stuff. And it's, I'm going to use the term wake up. What, what is it that means that people like you and I can see what's going on? But sadly, you know, the vast, I'm just going to say it, the vast majority. I mean, you've only got to go outside now still and see that utter fear that people are living under. And not just that, not just that, but what I would say is a real false sense of reality. But what is it that makes people see it and the reason I bring up the berries thing is my understanding is so far from what they're putting out in the media. Particularly with respect to your, your event. And that's because I see what's going on in the veterans community outside of the media. Yeah. And I, as a podcast host, I, I'm inundated with messages, comments, et cetera, from veterans just to say, you know, you're on the money. And we, you know, we, we support this. It's called it just a way of thinking, or, you know, a way of this understanding. But then again, I've also been with veterans. And it's shocking as folks I'm sorry I'm taught I know I'm talking slowly it's because for you guys out there, you don't understand the restrictions that we're under. You know, the restrictions that we are under. And, but, you know, I've been with groups of veterans, and I've just seen that when I'm in a group, I'm literally the only person who understands what's going on. And the way I do it. And I think this is a great peaceful way to do it is, I don't comply. I don't comply with something that I believe, if I believe it's immoral. Particularly if I think it's to place my child in even more slavery than, than, than they're, than they're already in. I'm with you on that. I get so, I get quite, I write my when I'm out, I mean, when the freedom day came along the so called freedom day. I mean, I, I, I thought I'd see a lot. I said a lot less people on the streets now still going along with it. And the way I look at it is, you know, the coverings, everything like that, it's a compliance tool, it's nothing more. And it infuriates me because everyone that puts one on everyone, everyone that goes along with any, anything that they want you to do that's out of the ordinary. It's just, you're allowing them to keep goose stepping us further and further and further into what is going to become a China like system. I mean, like you say, we're under so many restrictions, I don't know if we can say that, right, but it's, it's going to be dystopian. So many people are not aware, you know, you just have to look at the system they're living in. It's no secret social credit system, a network of 100 million CCTV cameras picking up your every move. If you don't want to play ball, maybe you can't book a train ticket, maybe you can't shop in a certain store. Maybe you can't use the internet for a couple of weeks. That's not living, Chris, that's not, that's not life mate. And that is, that is in no way, shape or form, what our forefathers fought for. No way, I know it for sure. If you could go back and ask these guys, look, this is what you're fighting for today. And this is what's coming forward in the future. I mean, I'm pretty sure they would have said, well then you guys are going to have another fight on your hands. Because, but so many people don't see it's a fight, Chris, you know what I mean? This is a, this has been a psychological battle from, from day one. You know, that's all it's been psychological warfare, absolute bombardment from the media everywhere you go. You turn on the television. Yeah, let's not mention any. We won't do anything. No, but exactly. You're consistently having certain things thrown in your face. And it's hard to forget those things, you know what I mean? It, it does something up here. It changes you. And mate, I'm a bit, I don't know if we've gone too far now. You know, I've read studies that say it only takes three months for something to become a human habit, really. You know, things have been going on longer than three months. Yes. And what I see, Ricky, happening. Is we're constantly bombarded with this new tech under the guise it's going to make our lives easier, happier, better, swifter, smarter. But when you actually speak to people, they're so lost in all of this. They're unhappy. They're the way that people rationalize their lives is so far from what I would call enlightenment. It's so far from waking up in the morning realizing you're in paradise. They're all in paradise. It's just most people have been so shielded from this that they don't understand. I call it living in the matrix after that film called The Matrix. Oh, mate, listen, 100%. I watched that for the first time a couple of weeks ago. I've been saying that exact sentence ever since. It's pretty weird to say that. Yeah. I mean, I spent time with quite a few different people recently and the number of individuals that are still locked into trauma from stuff that was just ages ago. They haven't been allowed to move on from that trauma. So they're living in kind of constant state of anxiety, fear, mix in their bit of depression. It's we never going to find this utopian happiness that we all deserve. You believe that Silicon Valley is going to provide it for you in some bloody new app on your phone that helps you far, you know, register any times you fart a day or, you know, tells you what your bloody neighbors doing or whatever the hell it might be. It's worrying. It's like the people that don't want you to be happy that literally want to feed off your unhappiness, whether that's financially or for their own kind of sick power gains. Yeah, we put them up there on a pedestal and we don't even question them. Yeah, yeah, make people, people do. They're not interested, man. The vast majority of people want to go home at the end of their working day. They want to switch the television on. They want to watch your standards. They care about when the football games on. They care about which actor or actress is just coming in and out of rehab or going on. I'm a celebrity. Get me out of it. Complete detachment, mate. But it's not their fault. Chris, I don't blame them. Like you said, an absolute tech bombardment, you know. This is the age we live in, mate. It's a sad truth. But, you know, I don't know if you've ever seen them, but I find those little artist impressions and stuff of life quite interesting when you see, like, you know, a family sat down on a couch or holding a piece of hand-dead technology. No communication with each other whatsoever. You know, everybody is just so absorbed in this tech. It's unreal. And eventually, you know, but that's always been the plan, Chris, you know what I mean? The totalitarian tiptoes take the television from the corner of the room to then bring it a little bit closer to them, bring it to your hands to then bring it to wearable technology to then possibly bring it to insertable technology. That's where it's going. And, you know, listen, it's, you can talk about theories all we like, but this is ever more becoming a reality. It was only just the other day that I was, I was, I was actually watching for myself a news report on something that's going on in Israel where they're planning to, to microchip young children to allow people to know when, when they, when they're too close to somebody else. You know, this is, this is where it's going, man. This is, this is 100%. As you said, we're not here to advocate violence. Nothing like that. But we're getting to a point now, mate, where it's going to go so far that you won't be able to turn it back without that being the case, possibly, because listen, good, good men and women lost their lives for the very basic fundamental freedoms that we have today. I spilled their blood for it. And I can't stress enough to everybody that if we give those back, you will not get them back until somebody else spills blood for them. That's the truth, mate. Whenever somebody's given away their freedoms in history, that is always actually been the case. Somebody, unfortunately, is at a lose their life for that freedom to come back now. I'll say to all the people that are so willing to give these, these freedoms away, if you are not going to be the person that's going to spill your blood or give your life to get those back, then don't be so steadfast to give them away. That's, that's my message to people like that, mate, because we're getting to that point now, brother, where honestly, it's going to go so far, it's going to be, it's going to be hard to do anything peacefully. It will be, it will be difficult. And as I said earlier, we're trying every means, mate. We are trying to be a, we're trying the legal route. We're trying the outreach route. You know, we're being censored at every level, at every level we've been censored. Why? Chris, if you go back in history, mate, if there's ever been a group of people or organization or a government that have worked to silence someone, they usually always haven't gone on to people. To be known as very good people. In fact, to challenge anybody to find a group that has silent someone that has gone on to be known as a great person or a great organization, there isn't one. Bad things happen, you know? Yeah, God is, I literally don't even know where to begin with what to say. Probably not good, good as a podcast host. Well, the thing is, mate, it's dire, isn't it? You know what I mean? This is the reality of it. And I think this is another reason there's a lot of people that don't want to know, mate, because they don't want to accept this as their reality, because it's horrible. That's the start reality of it. When you start thinking about it, it is quite, it's demoralizing, mate. And it makes me quite sad, actually, of the whole human race that we've got to this. How did we get here, Baba? Well, I can tell you, but there's probably this subject for another chat. Yeah, probably, mate. But it's not right, bro. It's not right, mate. And I need to be in a position in my life where if I'm going to pass away tomorrow, that I know that my kids at least have got a nice world, at least they've got some kind of protection from tyranny. There's not too much to ask, mate. And at the moment, if I died tomorrow, I can't honestly say that I would know that. So I can't leave my world like that, Baba. You know what I mean? And every parent has got to start saying, no, because it's gone past the vulnerable now. We know what's coming next. And I won't say any more, but... Yeah, listen, everyone knows exactly what I'm getting at. And I promise you, mate, honestly, I'm not looking forward to the next few months. I'm not, to be honest with you. No, Ricky. Again, freedom of speech. Why can't I just say, I can't even tell you my own life experiences. I'm not talking about slagging other people off or hate speech. I don't do any of that stuff. I can't even... But I'm literally stuck for a way to say it, but it's all well and good going along with the main narrative until it affects someone you love. I'm not going to go into specifics here, but folks, if you think a little bit laterally, you can understand what I'm trying to say here. Imagine you put your child through a, let's just say, a certain exercise. Imagine it didn't turn out too well, you know? And you're left with having to spend the rest of your life going, oh, I'm responsible for that. And now my child has got to live with that for the rest of their life. And this is a reality. This is a reality that's affected many of us. There's videos that are not, they're not Mickey Mouse ones or anything. They're what people are putting on their Instagram, begging for help for what's happened. Again, guys, I'm just going to have to do the thinking here, but they're begging for help for what has happened to their loved one. Well, here's the thing. What if I surprise you and tell you're actually all perfect? You are born perfect into this universe. You'll hear me talking about my majority plant based alkaline diet, which is a fancy word for saying, I eat what I'm supposed to as a human being. I don't eat Western toxic diet. Why? Because I did that for 33 years. And guess what? I was ill all the time. The three colds a year, the flu every year. And when I made some subtle, really subtle changes in my life. No, there's no hardship there. I suddenly found I stopped getting ill. I found that if I ran around the block in the morning, just 0.9 of a mile, it's not command or stuff. Just anybody can do it. You know, wheelchair, you can wheel yourself around the block, you know. What I found is, my mental health improved hugely. So I didn't constantly face the stresses and strains of anxiety and depression that were induced by the culture that we live in and the lack of support it gives to the individual. And to me, these are good things to promote, you know, but I haven't seen anything mentioned of such things in the mainstream media. No, nothing. All I've seen is the responsibility taken off the individual for their own life and handed to corporate trillionaires who I'm guessing by the fact have a love of money and power really aren't in tune with this beautiful universe in the way that I would love everybody to be. And that makes a question there. So what we're saying is, is looking after us. So that's just not important. Taking care of our mental health. No, that's not important. What we've got to do is go. Go to outside agents and they will take care of it. How are we supposed to proceed if we don't even understand who we are as human beings? Who shuts down the gym and leaves a McDonald's open in a health crisis? Who offers you a free joint or a custard cream donut to entice you to do something that obviously you had decided not to do or you didn't, you know, you hadn't yet done. I don't know if it's advocating drugs or if we have to cut this bit out, but to some people they might not mind the donut and the joint though, brother. Yes, but I can tell you by poisoning yourself. No, I completely agree with what you're saying. No, I'm just messing about with you, really. No, on a serious note, this is going to go further than that. I mean, isn't it $500 at the minute, mate, in some states to go to go and get certain medical procedures? Yeah, and also I saw a notice today. And again, you know, it's just a notice put on Instagram. You don't know that the authenticity of it, but doctors now refusing to treat. I'm talking GP surgeries, refusing to treat their don't like to use work patients, but you know, their communities, unless they've done certain things. And if they haven't done the certain thing, they'll only be spoken to over the phone. It's not going to stop there, though, is it? No, of course, we know that. You know, it's not going to stop there. And this this is this is why this is why we're so passionate, mate, about about ending this and how we end it. I don't know. I mean, this agenda goes further than the hands of just politicians, man. Do you know what I mean? People just don't understand that it that those people that they see on the television, you know, your world leaders don't they are not the people pulling the strings here. You know, they're not. And if you showed a picture of certain family members that run certain banking institutions, most people wouldn't have a clue that person was if you showed them a picture of that person. No, most people wouldn't have a clue that big tech meet every year. Meeting in visit in Sun Sun Valley. So people listening will understand the emphasis on the sun. Most people won't even have any idea whatsoever. They, they meet every year, but you know, various organizations meeting behind closed doors every year to decide how they're going to plan your future and how they're going to nail you more into the home cocoon, which we've seen. We've seen people nailed in to to instead of going to work using zoom. And people might say, well, what's wrong with that? Well, I tell you what's wrong with it. Work is work. Your home life is is your home life. That's right. There's many jobs that that that people like myself do my partner does it be not suitable to suitable to be done in front of a child. It's stuff that that child should be protected from, you know, I'm talking like nasty. Not I do the podcast, you know, I talk about a whole range of just call it adult stuff. But my partner is in, you know, she works with dispossessed children. So you can only imagine some of the stuff that comes out. And yet we're supposed to think it's normal to work from home and bring all that shit into our home to have to have to seal off a room at a house which used to be our eating room where we got together as a family to celebrate, you know, our love for each other and our life. But no, no, now that's an extension of the office and guess what, do you get paid for it? Of course you don't get jack shit more, you know. We now no longer speak to our neighbor but we might get an act where we can grasp them up because you know they had a barbecue last week and they had six people come instead of five. So there's no we don't speak to our neighbors anymore let alone the wider community. And so it looks like we've got a lot of brain dead morons heading into the future in their little bubble. Everybody angry as hell with each other, which they can only express through a keyboard so it just gets vile on online. And what for? Is this going to make people's futures happier? Or is it going to lead to a bunch of let's just say for example, 35 year old men that are just mumsies boys or pansies as we used to call them. You know, never gone further than sitting in front of a computer for their job, which I mean there's no disrespect at all but we used to call that like secretarial work. It wasn't like going out and smashing it on the farm or building a submarine in a factory or melting steel with the guys. You know, it's sitting in front of a keyboard. And when you get to 35, how are you going to feel about yourself? You haven't done the skydiving, the flying, the marathons. I'm not suggesting joining the military is the way but it certainly gave us a bit of experience. It's all going to cave in on itself. Mental health is going to suffer, addiction is going to go even more through the roof than it already has done. And who's speaking out about this? Who's worried that probably let five companies, their shares have just gone through the roof? Absolutely through the roof. And we're talking hundreds of billions. No, we're talking trillions, mate. Yes, trillions. Trillions. And this is the biggest transfer in wealth since probably 1929, right? Well, it's a consistent push. When you control the money system, you control the inflation, you control the debt, you can crash the economy like that. And that's what we've done. We've handed out what used to be a very simple system exchange. So, you know, if you paint my front door, I'll come and fix your gate. But if I can't do that, I'll say, Ricky, look, is free cockleshells. That represents what you get paid for painting a gate. No profit in it, no interest. No, none of that, just a simple. But then back in ancient Babylon, we're talking 700 years ago, when the psychopaths got together and went, you know what? We can actually turn this into an international monetary system where we keep every single person locked down in slavery from birth. OK, it was a gradual progression to where we've got to now. But that is where we are now. We have a central banking system. It is a system that is allowed to basically print money, lend it to you and then charge interest on it. So, basically, if I gave you that bit of paper and put 10 quid on it and went, hey, I'll make it right. Could you give me back 12 quid, Ricky? You tell me where to get lost. So many people aren't aware of that, mate. No. If you ask... Mate, it's my sound right, by the way. My kids are really kicking off downstairs. I can't hear, mate. Can't hear. Good stuff, mate. Yeah, mate, it is amazing. It's actually bewildering to me how money has got... It controls our life in ways that people just aren't... They aren't aware of. I say to everyone, if you had a billion pounds in a bank, would you be doing what you're doing today? Most people have to honestly say, no, of course I wouldn't be doing this today. I wouldn't be here. So, I say to them, where does money come from? And they never... I say, well, everyone's got different answers. It comes from the government. It comes from the bank. And when I try to explain to them the creation process of money and how it's loaned into existence and comes from a private bank that's then given to the government and spread out. Mate, listen, this goes well beyond what they even want to know. They're not bothered. They're not bothered. And it is bewildering to me how someone can be so unbothered or uncurious about how that money is loaned into existence and exactly how the fractional reserve banking system works. It controls their entire life. It controls the food that they eat. It controls the lifestyle that they live. It controls the level of education that their child can receive. And they're not interested about where this comes from. And it controls every war that we fight. Every war that you fight, it's a fantastic tool. But it only gives them so much power. And it does kind of do my head in a little bit when I see so many people that claim to have a great understanding of what's going on maybe. And they say, oh, they're doing this for money. Moscanum right now is not about money. They can print money until they're blue in the face. This is what I'm trying to say to people. This goes beyond money and that's why it's dangerous. You know what I mean? Because beyond controlling someone with money, what's beyond that? Yeah, it's almost as if a group of psychopaths got together 400 years ago and decided to create a new world order. Yeah, almost. It is almost like that, isn't it? That would just be weird, wouldn't it? Mate, absolutely crazy. Yeah. Bloody silly talk. No, but it is the truth, though, brother. I have course, of course. It's kind of funny. I was with a colonel in a military the other day. And I can't remember the scenario, but it was something like, I think we went in to go into a shop and he did a certain thing and then looked to me and went, are you not doing it? And I said, I don't watch the news, mate. Because that's all this has come from. It's come from, you know, I'm not at a single, and again, we're not going to say any of the words, but I am at a single letter through my door from any official government or medical, for example, NHS source to inform me of what has been going on, whether in my country or globally for the last year. Now, all I've seen is the BBC announcing things, right? Yes, since a certain procedure that's been introduced, I think, yeah, one, I might have got a text actually saying, why haven't you done this? Can we help you to do it? But, sorry, I lost my thread there. That's right mate, you're talking about the medical procedures. Yeah, but no, I was talking about the fact that, oh yeah, so I'm going into this shop and I'm like, no, I don't watch the news. You know, if you want to do all that stuff because you watch your news and you believe it all, but you're just, you know, you're punishing yourself. If you don't have the TV on, you don't have Sky News playing in the background 24 seven, like we did when we was, what I'm going to say, kids, right, for that endless endorphin rush, then you'll be amazed, folks, at how much stuff doesn't affect you or your life or your family's life. Yeah. But of course, when you go out the front door into a shop, then it does affect you. And so this gentleman said to me, well, you don't watch the news. And I said, no, I haven't watched the news for 20 years since certain events took place in a certain country. And I went, I am buying into that shit. You know, I'm not buying into things that fall out in the sky for no reason whatsoever. And yet nobody, no one quite, if that's what the news does to you. Yeah. So, so yeah, so this is it. But here's the thing, Ricky, what, what, why, what is it that kick starts you on this road to the truth? Why is it that we can even be having this conversation? And why is it that some people that will be listening are just like, guys, thank you. We get it, you know, and I'm guessing and I mean this, no disrespect because I used to be there. But others are just like, what, you're saying that money? You're saying that, I mean, my, I think my kind of awakening is coming stages. So I think when you've battled chronic addiction in your life, well, certainly the case for me, in order to get out of that, I started to realise everything that I'd ever been taught was a lie. I mean, everything. Yeah, everything. And it does goes, it is literally everything. Yeah, everything from, from birth, certainly this, this pigeonhole in education system that literally teaches you how to sacrifice your whole life working in a call centre every week, solid day in the summer, one week at Christmas, your whole life, as opposed to teaching you kindness, empathy, reaching out to the universe, meditation, understanding yourself on a metaphysical level and on a personal level, tuning into this, you know, beautiful creation that's out there, understanding that Ricky is me and I'm Ricky and we're made of the same shit. We come from the universe. All these atoms, they've always been here, they'll always be here. So why am I nice to Ricky? Well, because he's me in another body. Why don't they teach you that at school? Well, we know, we know why because we've been under this agenda for, let's say, 416, 66, 400 years. And these individuals understand they can keep us in our left brain, which they do very well with this education system that doesn't teach you anything that you really need to know other than free apples and six apples equals, I don't know, about four apples or something, right? But they're very clever at this game. Keep the people in their left brain. Don't let them blossom. Don't let them become fulfilling, achieving happy adults because for God's sake, then they'll turn around and say, shove your big tech. Don't need any of that nonsense, you know? Exactly right, mate. They've done such a good job of it as well. You know why you've got to tip your hat to them? Because they have 90% of people buy into it, mate. They buy into whatever they're told on the box in the corner of the room. Yes, and back to my question, is that because they haven't had a hardship like triggering in their life that's made them have to... I've had this discussion with so many people recently, and I'm kind of of the opinion now, mate, that, yeah, I think it does take something. For me anyway, it took a trauma. I mean, going out to... Not so much a trauma, but I mean, it was quite traumatic in the sense where when I look back at the things I've done out in the Middle East, I realise that those things were done for the wrong reasons. But it was that time going out there and seeing that things just didn't add up. And when I was over there, I was handed some information from an American guy on a certain global event that happened years ago that completely changed the face of history, same event you were probably talking about. And once I'd unraveled that, mate, it kind of took me down every other rabbit hole that there was. So, yeah, I don't think you're born into a certain level of consciousness, mate. I think it comes with a lot of... It comes with a lot of digging, mate, in yourself. I think you really usually, mate, you'll find the people that are most consciously aware of the people that have been absolutely down at rock bottom. And maybe even more than once, you have to be broken down to kind of rebuild yourself. And I think it's when you start rebuilding yourself you kind of see... You do. Once you've got nothing, mate, you see everything for what it is. But I'm going to add a caveat here. I think that's only because we've been indoctrinating to the matrix from birth. And it takes something special, something usually very challenging. In my case, almost dying more times than I care to imagine through chronic addiction and complete loss of my mental health. Whereas if we was an Indigenous Indian tribe, I bet our elders would instill this stuff in us from birth and we'd go out and we'd respect the nature. Of course. When I say universe, they probably call it the Great Spirit. They probably realise that we live in paradise on Earth. We don't need... They only took from the land, didn't they? They didn't take anything that couldn't grow back. Yet with all this technology, it's almost ludicrous to think you can continue. You can't just keep taking from the Earth. We've only got the one Earth. You've got these psychopathic billionaires with all their ridiculous space programmes pretending that they can go into space. Why? Because they want you to believe that we can reach out and get resources from other planets. So it's fine to continue destroying this one. It's a bizarre... But when you think... It's a lot. It's a lot of requirement. That's the thing. But I try my best, mate, with my boy. I try my best when we talk about someone that we know that's died and I ask him somewhere he is. He points out he's his area, he's daddy in the trees, in the sky, in the birds, in the... Everywhere. He's in everything. He understands... I'm trying to get it. That we're universe first. We can't go anywhere. We've got to stop being distraught, made to think we're individuals and then destroyed in that identity so we can be controlled. Yeah. Listen, brother, I think we've done very well. I think we've covered all the bases. Been a pretty safe chat, mate, yeah? Well, I'm going to say not really, Ricky, because I tell you what, I mean, again, I don't mean no disrespect to anyone, but I bloody love to have this chat when I went on the night out or if I went with my mates on a stag do or if I went down to my local co-op to pick up a... You can't go, can you? You know, I love for someone to go, yeah, universe is amazing, isn't it? And I did an hour of meditation this morning. It made me remember the set of carbon molecules flying through the galaxy, you know, and... But what do you get? You get people reliving their traumas to you, reliving their histories because they've never ever been given the tools to realise it's all just part of your journey and it's all good. That's right, yeah. You completely track that matrix. You get people talking about what's on the box tonight and who's on Strictly and... And it's okay, Ricky, but I'll tell you what, if it wasn't for people like yourself, I would start to question if I was on this planet on my own. With the extension of the med section, you know. I know exactly what you're saying. And so I thank you for it, mate. You know, we're not alone. Thank you, mate. We're not alone and there's people watching now that will be very grateful for your input, mate. And... Thank you. Listen, having me on, yeah, in the first place, mate, I can't tell you how grateful I am because there's not that many people that have reached out to give me a chance to speak or for people to be able to see me for the human being that I am, rather than what they were given by the press. So thank you for that, mate, and thank you for the video that you put up in the first place, mate, because, as I say, when I spoke to you, didn't I? I said, as soon as I saw it come up on my live feed, I said, a war marine reaction is awful. We've opened ourselves up here for... All right, brilliant, mate. Honestly, it was... It was quite... It was heartwarming, mate, to be honest. And thank you for being you, brother. And it's a shame that more people like you, to be fair. Yeah. Well, it's like this for veterans watching. I know it's confusing because I've done the both of them. I've been serving. I'm now a civilian, a veteran civilian. But I've lived, worked and travelled now in 85 countries across all seven continents. Sorry, folks, if you've heard this before, but I just want to reiterate, I've been in combat. I've been in peace. I've seen Anoppo shot dead. I have been to the depths of mental health and back and had to do all the soul searching that it takes to get yourself from the darkest place you can ever imagine back to full health, which meant getting rid of so many of the lives that had just been told my whole life. I mean, I've done a lot of other stuff. I'm a pilot, qualified pilot, skydiver. I ran the length of the UK without any training whatsoever. Did an ultra marathon a day carrying 15 kilos when all the professionals said, now you're a crucial joker, you'll never do it. I said, I will. Did quadruple iron man to raise money? All of this I do to raise money in the veteran suicide epidemic, to raise awareness, the veteran suicide epidemic, to raise money for our struggling opos. Christmas, I ran 200 miles around a running track and then another 100 miles around Dartmoor, all in, I think it was six or seven days, again to raise awareness of the hand that veterans have been dealt, or not been dealt, I should say, by our government. I'll backpack through every single country in the Americas, from Alaska to the southern tip of Argentina. I've written, I think, six books now, one of which was an international bestseller. I studied to master's degree in the social sciences at university and I'm not saying this to Lord Ogier because none of that means anything to me, other than it puts a smile on my face when I have a beer, maybe, right? It means nothing, why? Because I live now in this moment. Moment, that's all I think. All this ego stuff. Yeah, there's probably a bit of that there, but let's just leave all that in the past. But why am I saying it is I wouldn't, I don't think I'm deluded, brothers and sisters, you know. I don't think I'm deluded. I think I've probably seen maybe a bit more of this world. And I've read, I've just read books since I was five years old. I've read history. I read all the kind of war, nonfiction, so Vietnam, Second World War, 1984, Brave New World, all the classics that kind of predicted stuff, where life was going to go. So, yeah, I just, yeah, in that knowledge, you know, what I've learned out there now, Ricky, I hope veterans rather than just shut us off and go, yeah, yeah, well, those two idiots will go, actually, you know. And what am I doing this for? Because if people think you make money on YouTube, possibly my buddy James English might make a few quid now, but I can tell you I've never made, I have never made a penny off it. So I must be getting something out of it. Other than meeting wonderful people like Ricky, it's just to give back really. Yeah, just to give back and hopefully for our youngsters out there, you can start to see the way of thinking that those of us that live in paradise that we've developed. No matter what these psychopaths are doing, they're not going to stop me living in paradise. As a final thing, because I'm getting a message to lots of Chris, what can we do? I'm going to take it back to basics and say, what I do is I focus on myself. I try to keep my house in order. I eat a plant-based alkaline diet. It doesn't mean I don't eat meat. It's just majority of what I eat is vegetables. I find that puts me on such a high level of functioning in life that my happiness just goes through the roof. Cut out the drugs and the alcohol. Yeah. We've all had experiences on them, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But when it becomes a staple in your life, it cuts your body's vibration down. And your body is specifically tuned for a million years of evolution, well, billions of years to vibrate a certain way in tune with this bigger thing. And what alcohol and drugs do is they cut that down. What that does, that makes you then feel unhappy. When we're unhappy, we project that unhappiness out onto other people because we need an outlet for that unhappiness. This is what you see so many people hating on social media is they haven't found a paradise in themselves. And it comes out through bitterness, hatred, which then triggers other people off into a downward spiral and negative spiral and the whole thing sort of snowball. So eat well, jog around the block in the morning. It just feels brilliant for your mental health. Cold shower stimulates the nerves in our body that when we as hunter-gatherers would have been stimulated every time it rained, but now we live indoors. That doesn't happen. So it's important to get a bit of cold water on you. Practice is everything you do based on love, empathy, kindness, understanding. And I'm not saying I can tell people to fuck off for the best of times and believe me, I do. But I know I'm wrong. I know it's not the way you want to do it. With respect to what might or might not be going on inside. I don't comply. And I'll tell you what, it's made me understand that out of the elite forces, I'm either one or two things. I'm either much more informed than the vast majority of these men and women. Or I'm braver because some of them know what's going on. And yet they still say nothing. They still comply. And when you challenge them on it, they say, yeah, but what is Chris? It just makes it easy. Yes. It makes it easier for you, doesn't it? And what do we do as fighting men and women? We never leave someone behind, do we? And when you make it easier for you just because, you know, you're a six foot four muscle, boast and commando, but you're scared of what a 16 year old shell stacker might say to you in little, because you're not conforming to the, you know, to the herd. To the narrative. You're scared of that. It's like, come on folks, right? It's not causing violence. It's not pushing and shoving. It's just, I don't comply and I won't. Bandit in your trove, mate. It is, I used to think that things like courage and standing by your morals, they were something that we used to promote. They were fashionable once. You know what I mean? Now we live in this age where everyone's so worried about offending someone. Everyone's lost, mate. I went on holiday recently. I was wandering through Padstow, which is always very packed with tourists in the summer. And I was just watching the men and the way that they were behaving, particularly with respect to, you know, what's been going on. And you could see some of them couldn't wait to spring in. You'd think they were putting on the Superman suit, right? I think everyone, have a think a bit later, if you know what I'm referring to, you know, they'd come up to a shop and it's like, you could see how much they're missing in their lives because they don't feel manly. They've been emasculated by this shredding of all our values and everything that ever, you know, the fact now that you can be a man, but actually you can decide, nah, I just want to be a woman. Actually, nah, I tell you what, I want to be a turquoise hedgehog. Yeah, that's fine, Chris. Instead of having people talk to us realistically, set us off on a good trail, we've got this utter confusion young people have to face about what is actually scientifically what, but this stripping, this... Part of the plan, mate. Yeah, oh, massively part of the plan, but you can see it. You can see it by the clothes that men wear now. You know, you just look at it and think, mate, you're a bloke. You're a bloke. And again, no criticism of the individual. This is about what's going on, folks. It's not about you or me. It's about the children and what's going on with them. That's right. You could see these, you know, we've had damaged pathways into adulthood. People that thought they were going to go out and be James Bond or John Wayne and actually ended up doing this behind a computer, that's architecture or banking or accounts and what, but it's still, you know, it's not fighting tigers and swinging on a jungle vine, which is all I've wanted to do in my life. And unfortunately, well, I haven't done the fighting tigers bit, but I swung on a few vines down there in the Amazon jungle and I feel very fulfilled for it. I want for nothing now in life for a key because I've done everything that I ever wanted. Yeah. But you can see people that are being indoctrinated into this wage slave thing thinking you give your whole life just to get promoted to this and then you get the bigger car, then you get, you know, bigger out. You're just enslaving yourself more. No. So superficial, mate. I used to be just like that though, mate. So like, you know, it's... We all did. At one point. Yeah, as we said, no one was born on this, you know, no one come out the womb at this conscious level of awakenness and just knew everything, you know. And thank God for it though, brother, because, you know, you can really see life where it's true beauty when you're not locked in that matrix anymore. Yes, you can. You start to really value things and you start to see, you see what your true wealth is, you know, being your health, you know, and your family. For me, my children, mate, and my health, if I've got them, then I'm pretty much all good. But I see both of those things under fire at the minute. Do you know what I mean? And that's why, hence why I'm doing what I'm doing. Because it's those very two things that are important to me that I never thought should have any... I would never have to be worried about whether they're safe. My health and my children. And now I see that both are potentially in a position where they're not safe. Yes, exactly. But if we do the things I just suggested, that's something that everybody can do. Absolutely, mate. I mean, there's a certain license at the moment. I won't say anymore. Hundreds of thousands of people a day are not paying that one anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I don't support people that will do innocent people harm. They use the T word a lot for that in the mainstream media. And I'm not one of them. So I'm not going to fund an organisation that is lying through its teeth. Yeah, it's a crime anyway. It's a crime to fund. Yeah, there's a lot of things we can do, folks, you know. Yeah, there are a lot of things that we can do. The power is with us. Yeah. The power is with us. Start by learning to love yourself. Love other people. Love the universe. And then jobs are good. Ricky, let's chat soon, brother. Stay on the line, mate, but much love to you and massive thank you to you and Marco for your commitment. Much appreciate it. Thank you, Baba. Thank you, mate.