 of the United States of America and the Republic for which it sings, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. We will continue with a moment of silence for additions and approval to the agenda. Under the consent agenda, we declare surplus athletic uniforms and there's also been a request to move the VOD discussion to the front of the agenda and limit it to one hour from six to seven. And then we will continue on with the board meeting after that. So, Shins, we'd like to ask and just receive feedback from you guys on. And the first one would be, what did you like or didn't like about the last bond? What was the last bond? So, the last bond would have been prepaid through six in Paxaco, and then seven through 12 improvements to the high school. Actually, that was all new facilities. High school came down, junior high came down, new facilities built up. Junior, am I moving over here with a new act shop over here? Price. Which was twenty six? Yeah, with an approximate price factor twenty six. That refresher, anybody have anything to say? The next question was, if what if anything would you support or like to see in a bond? These are questions for them. So, it wasn't addressed, but the format of this was we're here to listen to you. We're asking you guys the questions. If you have any feedback, we're not here to give you more information. We're wanting information back so we can help make decisions. So, I mean, I'm just, we have no information to give because we have nothing. We're at the ground level. We have nothing for working. We're looking for feedback. I think we have no option. There is no option on the table at all right now. Nothing. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, and I know there's been some confusion because we've had, we had a bond. We didn't have a bond. And yeah, right now, there is nothing on it. For the bond last time, so obviously, hate to see the full high school come down. But I realize that it has age to it, that it has issues. I didn't grow up in Alma. But where I'm from, we have a problem with our junior high. High school has been there for 1912. And they're wanting to tear it down. And people are having a problem with it. We might not see Alma at the junior high there. But you know, it's one of the things where the building's going to cost you more money than what's worth. It's not worth keeping it around anymore. But it's, I'm quite partial to getting rid of it. But I'll say, just because you can't do much with it, you can't add on to it. It's very good. It's a stone building. I mean, foundation problems, you have to spend a ton of money to fix foundation problems, and that's going like that. It just, we'd rather build a new building and have that good for the next 100 years. Then to try and fix a building and spend twice as much money fixing this. That's my opinion. I'll just add it, because we didn't say this, and you may all already know this, but in the course of having the last bond issue in now, we have had structural engineers come in and look at our buildings to make sure, because to your point, we didn't want to have a bunch of money for a building that wasn't structurally sound. And looking at those buildings, we did find that structurally the building's okay. Yes, it doesn't mean there needs to work with these buildings first. Structurally fine, but the amount of flexibility in any building like that. I thought the fire, or the flue was falling away from the building though. Can you add to that, Brad? Yeah, that was the initial thought from the real fleets and structural engineer and Patrick Shutter's here with VHS Construction that also was hired for a dollar, by the way, to be our construction management at risk supervisor. And so if I'm saying something at a turn, let me know. But we checked that and it's all sound, and we thought that that was what was pulling apart. It was causing the leak of water, but it is not. Is that a correct statement? Yep. Yeah, it's probably a foundation question to be answered. So if that's not causing the water issues, what is? The roof itself. Just as an overview, we have $2.6 million worth of roofs that are out of warranty, 20-year warranties. So we keep matching like we just spent almost $1,000. This recent bill to have somebody go up, take the tile off of the roof at the high school, find the leak, patch it, put the tile back on. So all those type of things. And then the other thing to your point about the foundation, there was the video that showed the water coming through, where it had had a hole punched in, a waterproof, and putting either the internet or something in, possibly at some point in time. And then found from the structural engineer, some of it was basically just to the fact of getting the water away through having the drain open up. Now it doesn't mean still that it needs more work done, but not major. And they indicated to us in the structural engineering report that that is, that stone is actually gets wet and dry, gets wet and dry. And so it wasn't a concern. His life's been correct. Yes, sir. What's the plan if the bond doesn't pass? Do I have a plan? Currently, we don't have a bond on the timing fee to be voted on. So let's just say we don't get a bond. What are we going to do? We have different discussions about that. We need to reduce our overall expenditures as a district. And so we don't really want to cut programs. We don't want to cut our ag program or our wood shop. We would rather reduce our overall operating, which could be done through reduction of spare footage or closing buildings. And at one point we kind of had looked at seeing if we could even close the current junior high right now. Could we fit kids in both the elementary schools and the high school to combine it that way? I don't think we can quite fit everybody without modulars or some other type of addition. But at this point, I don't know that we really know. As a board, we haven't talked completely about what we would do in that scenario. But we have asked the question to start. We have asked the question to our administration and principals, what can you do? What room do you have? Where do you operate out of? And each principal has given us blueprints that said kids can go here with as many classes here, here, here, and here in worst case scenarios. So I mean the question's been asked but the board has made no decision or any discussion about. If this doesn't pass, this is where we're going. Does that make sense? Yep. If my interjecting else could be. But the other thing, just to your point, to your question too, budgetarily, the board and district has been able to cut $385,000 of local taxes in two-year period. Much the first year, about 122, the remainder when the bond, this last bond, went to the gym and then something in each of the schools came off the books. So that helped also cut taxes, but prior to that, and we also have been able to increase then our percentage as far as our budget towards instruction. And so I think those are both things that need to be continued. And referencing, when we initially started this, it was $1.84 square foot. And what we were paying just for the maintaining of the building, that will include personnel. And according to our architects, we were over at school districts our size about 100,000 square foot. So basically we're spending $200,000 a year more than school districts our size just in maintaining buildings. So then that was the decisions and started to, what do we do? We thank goodness we had savings or had cash in reserve to be able to make up the difference but that now is to a point that basically just like your own loan budget, we have basically a month and a half of expenses and most of it is personnel but to move forward with in contingency and with our funds as far as cash. And the importance too for everybody, we need to, because people are like, well, why do you have so much money that's stashed or whatever? Well, you have the money because like food service for instance, we don't start receiving food service until August or September and you've got to order it back in July. So you've got to have money to move that forward. Or special education, why do you have so much because if a child moves in that has severe needs, we've got to be able to meet that need for federal law. So those kind of things just as a reference point. Is it really the distortion in Alma as a way to reduce the overall expenses? Creating one location for all schools? Would it create cheaper for moving kids around? Would it be cheaper if everything was in Alma? Like busing and all that stuff? Or would it be just about the same as going to Paxco or Maple Hill? I mean because buses are expensive, where the terrible buses are expensive, you know, gas is not cheap anymore. It would be great for many years. It depends on the amount of work that would be done probably. If you get all new facilities and Alma, that's going to be pretty expensive. But cheaper than, I guess, what's your employment alternative for you? Well, like the bond that we were going to pass over to Vodion, you know how the grade school buys good Paxco and everything else here in Alma. The question is, will it be cheaper busing having everything in Alma? Yeah. The way it's being bused right now, right? Well, yeah. It should be, right? Transportation probably. I think we learned that it's kind of washed. Yeah, I was just going to say, we have some estimates, the best estimates we could do at this point in time, that kind of fraud is able to come up with for us. So if we had the K-6 or pre-K-6 of Paxco and 70-12 in Alma, it would be about $122,000 approximately. Also, so it's only 12, because you're still blessing kids. You're either blessing more kids from having two locations, that's how happy you are. Yeah. And did the, I'm definitely, I remember, did both bonds, the big one we were having in Alma and the one we were going to go to, and did it have, like, new buses and that stuff in there, or the old buses we had. That was just a slide. I mean, eventually, buses do wear out, you know. The idea is that we stop spending all of our operating budget on a monthly basis on repairing buildings and put it back into our other assets as in buses and bus pay. I mean, we've gone from $10 an hour to $15, $15.25 or $15 an hour in the last two years to pay. We can't find Bus Driver to $15 an hour. So where do we have to go over to get enough pay there where we don't have the budget to keep pushing money there? So it's got to get out of these buildings and into something that is more efficient. Yeah. Buses or anything like that just go on. That's correct. You can't? No. We totally understand how tough of a conversation this can be and how hard it is, probably, especially, you know, we're on YouTube live. I have no idea how many people are watching. But the issue is, this is not going to get solved without having some tough conversations and it's probably not going to get solved without irritating your neighbor a little bit. But if we don't start coming free with information on what will happen, nobody likes a top-down approach. Here's what we're going to do. That doesn't work, especially in a district like this. So if we don't have what you guys will support, then you're left to us, six, seven people to make decisions and go try it. And honestly, the go try it is kind of expensive for us as well and what's it cost to put on a special election? 10,000. Yeah. So, you know, we're throwing 10,000 here, 10,000 there. Get this building looked at for 10,000. Hire this individual for 10,000. I mean, I speak for myself, but I'm kind of 10,000 now for test operations. We know that our budget is being burnt up by being in so many towns with so many buildings. We know that they're burning up because the buildings are too old to be spending our monthly wages on those. Monthly wages as in our monthly income from the state. Those are questions that are pretty tough to argue with. So, do you want a split district? Do you want a couple of towns involved? Do you want one town involved? If it's one town involved, do you want a complete new school here? Do you want to keep the old and kind of dress it up? If it's split, do you want to dress both up or do you want to build new and both locations? We already tested the new and both locations. I did the last election and it failed. So, obviously, the patrons spoke there. But I'm willing to have these tough conversations on live TV so I would hope that some other people that are actually in charge would be willing to have some of those tough conversations with us because that's what we're looking for. You're not going to offend anybody sitting at this table. I've tried for the last four years and I swung for the fence and I still haven't done it. There was also thrown out the last one that I was told, phasing. Is that something that people want to do? Phase. Say you do one phase here, you do one phase there if you were going to. Or even one. Phasing. You do one now, you do one later. What does that mean now or later? You would do part of it now and part of it. That's the question. What is it? When do you do the second part? If you did that. But ultimately you had to do the second part. That's an option is what you're saying. Everything's an option right now. I'm just saying that was thrown out there by, that was a comment then. Being fully transparent. And actually, if I can add to that, there was another conversation at, the last meeting was in Mapleville and there was quite a few people there. So from the people that were there at the meeting, I would also say that I asked the question, would you support a bond if we built all brand new in a central location that was not in Alma? If it was all C-12 and one location. And there was support for that. And I was a little surprised because that's, at least when we looked at that a year or so ago, that was over $50 million, dramatic in fact. But there was support for that. There was support for that option. And there was also support for an option of two locations. A lot of concern from people that live in the Mapleville area of busing their kids, little kids, all the way down. Was there any other operational savings from being in one location versus two locations? You asked about busing. You asked about busing? Was that just busing or was that all? That was just busing. Overall, I think overall savings, projected savings is about $20,000 right here. Would you have to build more here if you were all in one location versus being in a split location so the ball wouldn't be or you wouldn't have any used existing facilities for going down? Would you have an adequate facilities all of the locations compared to the two? Because I think if you're coming here, I think that often has the one last gym. You're the one last gym. I mean, it wouldn't be so great to build a facility out and on nowhere when we just spent the last ball on building that gym. I mean, it's worth the money out of the drain, you know. Or if you have the gym here, they have to go all the way to the school to the gym to place forward. I think that would be kind of worthless to me in my mind. Because that is something I've heard from people who's leaving football field everything here. I heard it today and I heard that in the past so they turned that out there. I mean, I do remember the big bond for Alma, everything in Alma, was to tear down the old high school. But, I mean, you'd be saying nothing's way wrong with the high school that you'd be adding on just some facilities for, like, say, junior high or some more grade school facilities. So that bond wouldn't be a $32 million bond, it would be rather, yeah, way less. So, I mean, I think a lot of people didn't like $32 million bond, it was $32 million. But if the high school was still sound, then you're really putting down a lot more money. A lot less money. So, I mean, that's something to look into as well, you know, for phasing out, you know, phasing in both of them, you know, I don't know. I'm more partial to having everything in one place. I mean, I like to have everything in one place. Because, in fact, I have, like, your house. I don't want my garage in my house not building way up in the middle of nowhere because I can't see it all the time. You know, if you have more of your staff here in issues that come up, it's easier to protect one building once it's spotted. I guess. Just point blank. We're not holding you to that. But would you support a $15 million bond K-12 in Alma? Yeah. I would, yes, from the last moment because I feel that we need something. I didn't want to just stay with who we had, but I would rather support something that's all in Alma. I mean, I like the K-12 because little kids, my kids like to look at the high schoolers and be like, wow, I want to be that when I grow up. But if the high schoolers are looking to spot, they have no role models to look up to other than going to the games or we don't see them walking about to the school or the high schoolers can't go to the grade school to help out with small children when they have their off classes. Just a lot of that kind of stuff. Kids, basically kids, is a good thing. I always thought. Role models are big these days, I guess. It's my QC. I appreciate it. What's more financially responsible to move everything or people we have here and renovate the old high school or build a new high school. Do you mean like move everything more central locations? Yeah, if we were to move everything brand new to Paxco that seems like a lot of online because we have a gym, a football field, would we just abandon all those? It is a lot. It is a lot. And they weren't talking about moving to Paxco. Wherever, I don't care. I mean to me it seems wherever is probably the most cost-effective what we should be doing. I don't care where it goes. I too am not familiar by the way. I'm from Split School and where I went to high school they did have it out in the middle of the country but they had the middle school, junior high, high school, central office all in one location. Football field, kids could travel from here to there I think a centralized location is better for learning better for safety transportation, cost whether it be here, Maple Hill it doesn't matter. You mean a K-12, not necessarily centralized? What's that? Do you mean a centralized or a K-12? I put it all in one location centralized everything. I guess maybe I'm a little confused because originally you had your question was is it more financially responsible for a centralized facility and we said that was 52 million and is that financially responsible or you can move everything into one location however it may not be considered centralized but you can do that for 15, 16 million whatever they told us which is more financially responsive. You can bring everything into here basically just expand around here 15, 16 million I'm just trying to make sure I understand your question. Is that what you're saying I think one of the plans we looked at was 15, 14, 15 million and then we're going to close everything else and just bring it all in the in-house. Maybe I'm just going to do that to speak. So 17 million in small print redefined print and you know... But I think since then though we even took the shop out of there the shop building which was 2 million which brought it down to 15. You're wrong am I right? 20 million to have it all in-house. Bad ideas. All plans so far have been bad ideas. We discussed these plans as if this is a possible solution or this is a possible solution. None of them are solutions. They were all bad plans and I don't know if that's because people creating the plans have no idea what goes on in this district we have to hire those people to do it. I don't think we had an input I don't know if we had enough guts to have an input on this board. I had an idea before that everybody would fund up if Consolidate didn't have one. I don't know what the cost of it was. That's what you're asking me. That's the plan that I was referring to actually was 15 million to Consolidate everybody in Elm Street. But that's why I asked you. I don't think that plan has a chance but it makes too much sense. Do some renovation to the high school and what would the elementary and junior high carry down the old elementary and building news? I don't think we've carried that much of anything. For 17 million or 15 whatever it is what exactly would it look like? There would be a junior high portion built right out here in the parking lot if I remember the plans correctly there would be a junior high building just across the street and there would be renovations to the shop school renovations to the elementary school and that would be it. There would have to be renovations. I would just say I don't know that we can say exactly what that would be right now but there would have to be renovations done to the high school. There would also need to be additions built on in order to accommodate two pre-K through sixers built on to what? Probably the elementary school now and then we also have to accommodate a seventh and eighth grade somewhere and so I think one plan had an addition in between the high school in this building right now to Alex and if I remember that's one idea I mean there's lots of different ideas but in order to accommodate the additional classrooms that they would need. If you use the parking lot for some of the new building parking. Actually there wasn't any parking taken up but it wasn't a kind of parking place on the west side of the elementary school. On the south side because the west side they wouldn't let us build on because there's a sewer there so that was out they moved it and moved like where the daycare. The daycare would be gone and it's not going to take up the whole spot remember we don't have that much money $15 million sounds like a lot of money but by the time you renovate the high school renovate the grade school you're going to build a smaller addition on there it's not going to take up all the parking spot there however parking around Kalama period is not necessarily the handiest but we also do only in on that way towards the football field even the practice field not that we're going to park there every mile all the way to school but I know when we got to the gym it was like well then we could post it in advance and whatever but that place is for the people to park. Right. I just want to clarify one thing just because I don't want misinformation so we did ask about the sewer that got talked about over there there's nothing in the MP adding on we've talked in the city about that about the Michael's okay in case I never showed those in a future plan I don't want to say what you think so there is though it's been confirmed by the city of Almond and there is no major concern about sewer going across the east part of the of the playground down here okay just for the record I just want to make sure that was brought up the east part west sorry tell me what their I think some of this is going to come down to helping taxpayers understand what it's going to cost what do they want what does it cost I think I've got some of these questions what's it cost is it possible to do the K-6 in Paxaco and a 7-12 in Almond on 15 which changes on I think we run just at the basics and then Almond and Paxaco yes so yes they are comparable in cost they're both about close to 17 times what was the cost of the laugh ball did anybody how much 24.65 but the real question is what's the total cost with the interest okay you know that the language for the the language on the ballot should say are you 4 spending 28 million dollars to build these schools in various towns plus 11 million dollars additional in interest that's how the ballot should be we didn't discuss that at all in fact last time we had a meeting in this room what did I say oh I remember reading somewhere interest alone was 11 million dollars I remember wrong so I just gave up until the next day I got an email I forwarded you the email from the bond people stating that I was correct about the interest but nobody ever discussed this in the interest what's the cost of the bond there's no way you're correct I don't know what the interest cost was but the bond cost 24 billion good question what I really like to ask is what I'm going to prevent from going from bond to bond to bond I don't want my I don't want my kids to grow up here later on and be going through a bond issue as well I like the facility that would last we could save money and be able to you know it's like you're a house and you get loans to pay off this and pay off that you know it may not ever happen but well I would not mind spending more money on the bond maybe my taxes if I knew that it would be the last bond that's kind of hard to do I know but I get what you're saying I would change that approach new AC units that would last for a few years you know I don't know they're 20 unfortunately they're 20 that's what we're at the end of and one thing that the district has done too is we're beginning an energy performance contract and like LED lights in the gym LED lights through the buildings and it's a 10 year lease purchase that the equipment including HVAC and the air scrubbers for the viruses and things and rooms and more efficient everything else that will pay for itself guaranteed savings over 10 years to pay for the equipment so trying to do things like just to make reference to that we don't spend budget things on operation things that maintain things and again then their maintenance cost should come down as well because having to your point newer equipment to add to that I don't want anybody I mean to fully understand where the school district is we save money every year that goes into construction accounts that we would buy new buses with that we would build new opportune buildings at the district but it's been spent on HVAC it's been spent on we move salaries into that area correct to make sure that our budget was that everybody was getting paid so we started spending money that's designed to keep the buildings up on payroll because our budget was stressed so far you remove those things our budget starts to open back up it's I'm not going to say we're ever not going to be a bond a bond but if we get our operation budget back and we have a smaller facility to maintain it would make more sense that at least the bonds may go down construction costs go up so they may still be $15 million bonds but instead of being $30 million bonds 20 years from now they're 15 that's what we're trying to look at I just don't want to keep paying money on a bond for one item and then 20 years later using that bond to pay for the exact same item if you have an 84 car that's old I'm going to be rid of that car and get a new car, a newer car that would be longevity you don't want to say it I don't want to keep paying on the same exact thing every bond pays that same thing that would make sense maybe I apologize for being late so based on your surveys I mean is that what do you think caused it to fail that was it price solely or was it other bad designs or I'm just questioning if you've figured that out yet because you've cut quite a bit off the what's that like from 24 down to 15 what you're talking about I was throwing out some examples I know everybody's going that hears that there's going to be like well Justin said they can build a 15th and you're only building an album I'm tired of not talking numbers and getting down to it so here we are I'm going to throw our numbers out and ideas out and you guys can say well he's the guy's crazy that's also a question we have this was 21 we didn't get feedback 24 she's getting the numbers right here some people voted no because it was too high some people voted no because it was splitting packs going out some people voted no because we were tearing the high school down how many in each area so it was split in a lot of different directions with the reasons were the cost the buildings, the old buildings both the junior high and the high school people didn't want to see either just having two locations so there were concerns mostly on those three not planning yeah not not having detail classes locations which was really hard to have I mean to present a bond and to say well this class is going to go here and this one is going to go here and these are the blueprints and this is those finalized that's still going to be very difficult you were close the last week down I'm not saying we were I'm just saying the last bond that was a point of contention with individuals whether or not money should go towards moving utilities I'm going to be able but you know what I don't think the school's job is to preserve old buildings the school's job is to educate kids if the building is out there in its life it's time to go give it to the historical society let them maintain it that's not our job that's not your guys job to preserve an old building let it go to build it we've brought up multiple times yeah it's an old building it's service purpose we can find a new life for it let's go educate kids options for the spring or are we waiting all the way until next November do you think we ought to have one ready for the spring would you set an expectation for the board to have a bond ready for the spring I mean that's a patron as a tax paying patron hey come on guys let's do something are you like hey let's do some more research let's have some more surveys let's ask some more questions I'm not trying to put you on the spot but I truly want to know I would rather let's put something out there in April but not the same thing that we already did I mean we tried the tax fill out a day to give it an option I don't know but we'll be forward I heard this what if we did a ballot on it what would be the problem with putting several on the ballot you know that way you get some kind of feedback on what people are wanting you know I mean now you have no idea if you want all Alma actual Alma if you had a multiple ballot on there then you have to know what people are wanting you have a great idea the final last thing because you guys you have an idea of what people want and that way you can have more information about making your choice in the future for the actual ballot I don't know that's an option you really want to know what people think which one would you support Alma or A, B or C yeah but I mean like when you're saying multiple ballots you have a ballot where A would be all Alma, B would be Alma, Paxco C would be I mean that way you have a great idea of what people want and that's a great point I think that's why we try to spend as much money as we did on the surveys which came back 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 45, 55 50, 50, 50, 50, 50 I mean again it comes down to the fact that it depends on what location you are in as to who supports what what about the surveys I don't remember that survey being out that's why I'm kind of asking maybe it wasn't very known to people that the survey was going to be out I didn't know at all communications consultant but we've sensed our solidarity in addition to that though a week to a survey to all parents but there are a lot of voters that are not parents of students I feel like a lot of them probably voted against the last one because they didn't want the taxes to go up here they didn't want to hear it anymore but I think a multiple part survey or whatever nailed it every voter or something might get swimside into what is fast because the voters might go into the side putting it on the ballot it kind of reminds me back to the presidential elections where you have 14 candidates and then yes who wins because it's split up so many different ways and it's maybe not even the most popular person just my opinion we actually thought that you could do that not on a ballot we found that but why did the we just clarifying that this is a second time we're talking about that but we actually did have a discussion about that but we can do a survey we can do a survey there's 2250 registered voters the last election about 80% turned out traditionally the Buncey schools on elections has about 75% of the voters turnout and the last if 134 would have voted the other way it would have passed it was 92% turnout like 2,080 voters that's good to hear that's great that's a pretty good survey don't you think yes they were voting on a specific thing if a survey could be sent to all those the district did send out paper survey via mail mailboxes to all registered voters as well but again sometimes the registered voter address doesn't match where we send because we still have those over there it's sending leaks not everybody is computer savvy we did send it by mail to every single registered voter so 2200 and some odd deals went out by mail not saying everybody got it because there are times the checks get lost in the mail that's the cost as well I want to say she got some but I'll hold me to it nope the question is and I think we've touched on it consideration of the locations you choose from the previous question should be considered in a bond so the last one was and so we've talked about 15, 17 but feel more comfortable with others obviously the lower and the better I'm sure there's a certain limit that you would get to that you would say now I think for people to make that decision if they need to more know what it's going to cost on my property what am I looking at I think I know some who felt like my taxes are going to go up this amount for money I admit it wasn't it was that much per year so there was misunderstanding there and I feel that person they still just don't know it based on taxes but I think when you say 15 million or 24 I have no clue what that means to me on my own so these are just some estimates for a 25 year bond so for every 10 million of bonds on a $100,000 assessed valuation home it's approximately $132 and $132 a year on a $100,000 home for every $10 million you spend for a 25 year bond I didn't mean to speak it over but I thought it was a little louder maybe the so if you were talking about 15 million it would be about $200 a year on a $100,000 home which there's also people that have a lot of land and agriculture and stuff which all of that is figured to do so we have figures for all of that so are we going to go on for a correct we've paid our last payment in September correct so but also our taxes should went down we've saved $385,000 $385,000 and then so evaluations go up every year we can talk about it in this life but the fact is evaluations you ever seen go down and the mills the mills that were dropped off because of the school bond will be absorbed by other things in the county usually so you may not see a huge decrease in taxes just because the bond came on because other things in the county I don't know exactly what but other things in the county will absorb some of that so it's available for us some of them might say well there's going to be mills coming off we have an extra five this year so we can do it and there's five of them that do that that's 25 mills that go back on your evaluations go up you saw a tax increase on a year that the school got zero money for any new facilities which was elaborately discussed in all of the town halls at the last one was we don't want to see that happen because we as long as you want a school in your communities we need to do a bond in some sort whether it's a maintenance bond of five million dollars or a K through 12 in Egypt at 52 million we've got to do something to fix this and so we're going to be adding to your taxes again have you got any success stories over education where we rank within our local school districts within the minis league how are our students how are we doing give us a good grade students as far as schools are size in minis league and area schools we consistently rank tire and our assessment scores than them and the data dated but from our last data that we have put together that we are consistently better than all areas in all areas we are consistently better than all others around the school yes sir that means kids can learn in our environment is it fair to say that you asked your kids and that we have our previous generations have invested in our kids in our district right I think it's fair to say it's okay we're spending your money wisely we are we have the best kids we have the best teachers and we are putting that to good use we would like to ask you to pony up and help us fix a problem is that a rude question to ask I don't think it is we are the best district locally I don't know how I'm trying not to be the drum but I'm just saying we're pretty darn good with the money you've given us now did the grass get thrown out onto the road did the grass get thrown into the bushes there are things that happen that people drive by and they get extremely frustrated with and say man they just don't take care of their facilities but I think we've made a building last from 1917 1920 we're in 2021 somehow we have managed to make that last 100 years and there are people that don't live in houses around here without updating them quite drastically every 10 years so they choose to spend that on themselves and reflect on the school that we're not taking good care of our facilities so I'm not going to give them any more money yet we've made our buildings last 100 some years and we're producing the best students locally that was my pitch for the last three months any other comments or questions not it's almost seven I would encourage if you ask questions either contact individually board members their addresses are online and e-mails and those kind of things and or if you want to even write it on the card and give it to one of us as you leave or you're more than welcome to stay for the board meeting if you choose to but you can leave at any point in time but if you wanted to either write that contact the school district that more than welcome to contact me and or like said board members be able to provide your input or have questions I don't have anything to add to my written report will she have any questions I don't have anything additional either she's actually she's not a general but you were in change that's of course you're not there all year did you have anything you wanted gary's not here no he's not josh didn't have anything josh real quick so it sounds like have we had any more problems with junior high since nothing yet I'm hoping no more issues well it sounds like that was that when you're touching it and it's disintegrating that's probably a pretty good indication that we had a little problem there all new lines from end to end for that modular and the existing wires didn't have any kind of weather proofing however long ago they were installed so it no false alarms yet I haven't heard many so that's good second in your back you can see that we're now up to 535 when I looked excuse me just look as far as test administer then we have made some changes those highlighted areas that will change we know the county health department and change that to our COVID test to know stay and play document that has been updated and we're following that yes ma'am bid for the 4 transit van we received bids back one bid from Rusty F. Ford in Wichita for 34,442 dollars for a 2020 4 transit van 10 passenger van meets our specifications and we recommend we have in capital outlay 60,000 set aside for vehicles the used one that we were looking at was 43,000 it was an 8 passenger it was a 2019 and the issue delivery date he said 20 to 30 weeks but we hopefully will have it before then and so with approval then we move forward and get the purchase order and do those things because according to them too the 22's they're not producing any more after the November so I'm going to approve for them I've been approving increasing teacher subsidy presently we were at $90 area schools one was paying 110 Mission Valley Rock Creek Omigo and I believe Council Grove were all at $100 and so we recommend that we go to 110 and we're having trouble getting substitutes I don't know if it will help or not but just FYI that cost increased approximately $5,000 we can use ESSER funds to pay for that quote possibly COVID related that people don't want to substitute or be in buildings due to COVID situations so we can't be able to do that as a premium pay item so we recommend that we go to 110 a day versus the 90 it's not necessarily important food service Brooklyn Baker emergency substitute teacher Clinton first one I think it would be important with the acceptance of that that you determine what search group you're going to use to determine possibly help with the new student tenant you didn't send reservations oh I'm sorry she didn't send reservations all she did was apply oh I'm sorry we're sorry yeah yep we're going right over the top that's good we moved to a turn we all moved to a turn that was really ignored Brad alright so item number two under personnel would be accept the resignation or retirement of one superintendent Brad Starnes so and then we need to determine with that if we're going to use what service service the approval policy for the resignation thank you Brad for everything you've done for our district everything you've brought to our district and most of all for putting the investment in our kids and putting first things first I appreciate it thank you thank you you've been very appreciative of Brad for the part she used to build use KASB seconded to use KASB for student tenant search that's good I'm done you're done Brad not a problem yeah exactly just the to with things and the timeline utilizing KASB right now there's two ongoing searches Wamingo with the interim and Balvin city so those were two then there's Subwet, Altoona Midway and Marysville so it's a good time to get in and for sure get out there to people and talk to them about those things but so there's relatively a small number of openings though I think there will be quite a few and so a good opportunity to find a great candidate early to meet your particular needs yes that's all been addressed it has and tell me if I'm wrong but what's Jerome's referencing to with the structural piece of that that we hooked the guttering Gary Blanton actually if you go look there's white PVC pipe on that and we were concerned that those were backed up and those weren't getting out to the street and checked all those and yes they are so still some stuff don't get me wrong but there was still some lead but not to the extent of what it was