 Constantly getting bombarded with and by people who say that my lack of speaking in tongues is my issue. It's my problem. Apparently I am not as mature as I need to be. I have not grown up as much as I need to. I have not developed. I've not gotten smarter because I don't speak in tongues. So I've got some questions. Now I want to tell you why I don't speak in tongues and so if someone who does they can tell me why I should. I'd love to know why I should. I'll tell you why I don't. Matter of fact I'll tell you why I don't from the outset. The reason why I don't speak in tongues is because at present there's no benefit for me. I have not found a benefit in speaking in tongues and when I say tongues all I can go off of is the tongues that I see you guys do. Not you guys but those who purport to speaking in tongues and how and why that's a benefit. I just it hadn't benefited me. I can't think of one time in my walk where tongues has benefited me. Now someone will come back and say well it's because you're not a Christian Corey or you're not a very good Christian. You haven't grown. You have no idea or you're fine as a Christian but you're missing out. You are missing out on a lot by not speaking in tongues. Well so therein lies my problem and it brings up the question. My question is what does it do for me? What is the benefit of it? The people that I've known that I've met in the 30-something years who have gone through some amazing circumstances and who have come out of it they didn't come out of it because of speaking in tongues. They weren't healed because of tongues. They weren't forgiven because of tongues. They weren't delivered because of tongues. None of these things happen because of tongues at least as far as I know and as far as they have said. So I'm trying to understand what is the purpose of how has it benefited other people? What am I missing out on? That's really my question. That's really my issue. I would like to know what have I, when I look at some of the amazing testimonies that I've seen either from close personal friends, from associates, from people who I've just kind of seen in the distance and myself as well. I don't see where tongues has done anything for me. And I mean the tongues again that we see in church. So I would love to know for someone else. What does it do? Because again for me the most spiritually mature people I've ever met did not speak in tongues. The most biblically literate people that I've ever met did not speak in tongues. So what am I missing out? The most charismatic people I've ever met spoke in tongues. And I've heard these things but I'm wondering what has been the benefit because when now, now I'm not saying that people who speak in tongues are not Christian or anything like that. I want to know, I want to know what has it done. Someone says, well, let me see, oh I understand, listen, I understand that Bishop wouldn't speak in tongue but it hadn't benefited him. I can promise you it hadn't benefited him because it hadn't benefited anyone else. I would love to know what does it do. Now again, I love him, I love his desire to hold to what just is right, you know, coming out against social issues and so forth. I'll give him that. But again, I'll stand by this, I will stand by this, the most biblically literate people that I've ever met. And I mean that can run through this Bible forwards and backwards, that can break it down in ways that just has me in awe. I have never, they don't speak in tongues. Now why is that? Now, maybe we're all, maybe we are all missing out and it could be. And so my point is if we're missing out, if I'm missing out, help a brother out. Help a brother out. Now, because I said that the most spiritually mature or most biblically literate people that I've met, that mean that they are the most biblically literate people ever or spiritually mature, you know. I know some mature people also emotionally at least who do speak in tongues. So I'm not saying that everyone that speaks in tongues, they are immature. I'm not saying that. I do think that they're missing the point of the scriptures. But again, I'm open for someone to tell me what I'm missing out on. So my question is, if I need tongues, why? Why? Because I think, I think you all helped me out, especially those. And by the way, feel free to disagree. Feel free to tell me, share your testimony as to what tongues have done for you. And then why I should be speaking in tongues, although the Bible says that not all speak in tongues. And I know that there are people who want to divide the line up between speaking in tongues and praying in tongues. However, the Bible does not. The Bible does not make a distinction between speaking in tongues and praying in tongues. As a matter of fact, there's one mention where it speaks about praying in a tongue and then Paul comes up with a solution. So if there's a solution to something that necessarily means there is a problem. You don't offer a solution to something that there's no problem. Jesus Christ died on the cross for us. Well, the solution for that is, well, there is no solution because it's not a problem. Are you with me? I'll come to that in a little bit. But I think I'm doing just fine. The reason why I brought this up is looking at some of the some of the emails when I wasn't feeling too well, just looking at some of the emails. I'm missing out on something. I'm missing out on something, apparently. But I thought about what I've come through. Somebody would say, well, Corey, you're lacking power. You're lacking power. Well, considering what God has brought me through in my faith in that, I don't think I'm lacking power. Forget the prison stuff. Forget that. Forget that. The hardest part of my life. Well, I should say the hardest part of my life. That probably was the hardest part. But I've had some equally hard moments in my life as well, where faith has brought me through. You do realize I told you guys that I was homeless. I grew up in an environment that was not conducive for good, clean living. Something is in my eye. Let me pray this, pray in the spirit that whatever this is in my eye would go away. It is bothering me. And I'm trying to I'm trying to keep my cool. I'm trying to act like it's not bothering me. But doggone, it is bothering me. I think I think I got it. I think some of you guys must have spoken tongues over my eye because my fingers are too legit. That's what it was. Cephas Rock says speaking in tongues shouldn't be this important. By the way, when saying that, Cephas, you would think if it were important, you would think that the apostles would tell us that. You would think there would be a command to speak in tongues. You all realize there is no such command that tells us to speak in tongues. So if it were that important, you would have thought you would have thunked. You know, we're thunking thinking you would have thought that Paul or Peter or James or Jude or John or someone else would have said the reason why you guys are struggling in your faith, the reason why you guys are immature, the reason church at church at Ephesus, church at Corinth, church at Galatia, church at Colisea, church at Philippi, all of you. The reason why the reason why you are you are struggling. The reason why you are struggling is because you just aren't built up in your in your in your in your walk because of tongues. You need tongues. Similarly, you don't see them saying that what we also need is a second dose of the Holy Spirit. In other words, Paul nor Peter nor John nor James ever comes out and says, hey, the reason for all this sin, incurrence, the reason for all of it. I wouldn't have to write you guys. If you guys had a second outpouring of the Holy Spirit, whoever prayed in tongues over my eye didn't work. It didn't work because it's back. I figure what it is, though. It is something with my eyelashes. That's what it is. Tongues are for the unbeliever. One speaks in a foreign language to people who have never heard the word as the Holy Spirit gives. Yes, I agree with that. As a matter of fact, we may take time and look at this also because it's also it is also it has a dual purpose also, and that is to impugn and to prick and to convict the people who are also not believers, i.e. the Jews. Think about this for a second. If I am a non-believer, especially in that day and I walk in and you are speaking in tongues that are not a real language, then what am I going to do? I'm going to think you're crazy. What in the world is wrong? But now if I know it's an actual language, I'm amazed because what did the Jews do when they saw the Gentiles and the Samaritan speaking, especially the Gentiles? They marveled at that. So that's something to consider. But the Bible, if it's so important, never tells us to do so. But the Bible does say in 1 Corinthians 12, as a matter of fact, let's go there in 1 Corinthians 12. Notice what he states. He says in verse 29, let's start there, are not all. Also, all are not apostles. Are they? Now, I want to look at how this is phrased in. Let me make this a little bit bigger on the Greek side. There we go. The way he says this is, may pantes apostolo, apostolo, which is not all of them are apostles. They're with me. So when we drop down, all are not prophets. Are they? All are not teachers. Are they? All are not workers of miracles. Are they? All do not have gifts of healing. Do they? Now, the do they part is added. That's not that's not actually there in the Greek. OK, but what is there is this part, all do not speak with tongues. Now, it says may pantes glossis. So it says literally not all speaking in these languages or speaking in tongues. So therefore, therefore, it's clear that not all do so. By the way, when the Bible describes this language, it uses these these two words. Glossi and la loa, la loa, la loa, la loa. Oh, some variation of it, which is the speaking and the tongues. That's every time we see that we see that acts and we see it in 1 Corinthians. So there is no distinction between tongues, praying in tongues and speaking in tongues. OK, now I do think that that this is tongues right here. My man with the with the beautiful hairdo, that is, senior Conrad, as he's speaking Spanish, I consider that to be tongues. And if that is tongues, then there's no need for me to speak in tongues unless I come across someone who speaks that language. And I need to give him the gospel in in in. What was that, senior Conrad? Was that Spanish? I'm going to take your word that was good Spanish. I don't know. I don't know Spanish, so I'm going to take your word for it. And so if I happen to need to speak to someone, give him the gospel in Spanish, the Lord gives me that power within a man than a man. But what's going to happen is that unbeliever is going to hear it in his own language. And I think he might be amazed at the fact that I'm speaking Spanish. Matter of fact, I might have to stop mid sentence like, whoa, I'm speaking Spanish. So that being the case, what is the purpose of it? What what does it do for? Because he says not all speaking tongues. So there seems to be. Those who do and those who don't and those who do according to them, they are building themselves up. They're edifying, they're getting a better, more fuller experience. They have a more they have a greater experience in God than we who don't. Well, my question is this, and I don't I don't think that's the case. I don't think that God has given us second class citizens or different tiers of believers. I don't believe that because why would he not want the same thing? So my question is going to be if I'm praying, does what is my regular prayer do? I'm just trying to go down the list and think of things that I could probably do better at and tongues would help. So praying, let's say I'm praying in tongues. I mean, I'm in my closet by myself or in the room by myself and I'm praying in tongues. What does my English prayer do? Is my English prayer is my English prayer without tongues? Is it now ineffective? So this is the question that I need to ask. And so I'm sure there's someone in the chat who believes in. I may not have seen you because it's moving. But if there's someone in the chat who thinks that my prayer life would be better by speaking in tongues or praying in tongues, what am I missing out on? If if me praying in English, does it change anything? Does is my prayer in English less effective than your praying in tongues? And if that's the case, then why didn't Peter tell us? Why didn't Paul tell us? Why didn't you tell us? Why didn't John tell us? Why didn't Jesus alert us to this happening in the future? You mean to tell me all the times that I've prayed all the times that someone says that 1st Corinthians 14 to sums it up. We'll go to 1st Corinthians 14 to we'll go there. But all the times I prayed in English, it wasn't as effective as praying in tongues. Well, I can promise you this. I can I can compare my prayers and what has what I have benefited from versus other people, whether they pray in tongues or not. And I don't I don't think that I'm I'm I'm lacking. So far, I haven't I don't think so. I could be I could be I could be I walk into a lot of these churches, charismatic churches or watch them on on TV or YouTube. And and everybody there has the Holy Spirit and they're falling out and they're speaking in tongues and they're still not getting blessed. They're still coming back for deliverance. They're still they're still they're still having an issue. There's still something going on. What's the problem? What's the problem? Because if tongues are the be all the end all the dog on, everybody will become become a charismatic now. No more more folks are doing so. But I think it's for other reasons. I think it's for other reasons. So my are you telling me my English prayer doesn't doesn't do well, that is isn't effective. Well, not according to James. As a matter of fact, James says if anyone is among you suffering, then pray and then he drops down and says, he says, and the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who was sick. And I do believe it seems to me that he is speaking. Seems to me that he is speaking in terms of their spiritual walk. Here's an interesting statement. Here is an interesting statement. Why do so many? Now, let's see if this is what you call this. Well, this is an answer question. Why do so many pastors, Christian leaders who don't speak in tongues, live double and ungodly lives? I could say the same thing about those who are who do speak in tongues. Are you mean to tell us, Chris, that people who speak in tongues don't have just as many scandals? Is it is that really what you're going to tell us? Think about some of the greatest scandals that we've seen in modern televangelist history. They spoke in tongues. Go ask Jimmy Swagger. Go ask what's his name? The guy with the golden doghouse. I forget the guy's name. I forget the guy's name. Have I been in? Have I been in? How about a jakes? You pick a jakes. How about the dollars of the world, the Creflo dollars of the world? I hope this is not what you're saying. See, I'm not saying that people who speak in tongues are any less godly than people who do speak in tongues. I'm asking what's the benefit? You just threw something out there that cannot be quantified. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure we can name a lot of people who speak in tongues who have failed miserably. So please, please help us with that. Please help us with that because. That's just not that's just not true. Now I'm not going to give Copeland. Tell me. Tell what I say that again. Brian Karn. Yeah, Brian Karn. So I wouldn't I wouldn't say that. I would. I would not say. John Gray's of the world. Amen. There are so many people. Now, it's again, it's not to say that nine tongue speakers don't have scandals. Do you know we can figure out, guys, whether you speak in tongues or whether you don't speak in tongues, sin is always an ever present. Right. I don't care if you speak in tongues or not. Matter of fact, let's let's just let's just say this. And I'll come to you guys. Thank you all for the super chest. I'll come to you in a second. But let's just say this. Let's just come here to be honest. Whether you're white or whether you're black. Whether you are Asian, whether you are Hispanic. You know what your problem is? It's not tongues. It's not speaking in tongues. It's not a lack of tongues. You know what your problem is, sin. A lack of faith, fidelity to the word. Yeah, that that's your problem. That's your problem. The same thing with people who speak in tongues and don't speak in tongues. Same same issue. B Jay's life. I'm coming to due 20 I'm coming through 20 second. Same problem, same problem. How many people who speak in tongues have had affairs. How many people don't speak in tongues have had affairs. How many people who speak in tongue have lied. How many people who don't speak in tongues have lied. How many people who speak in tongues? Lust. Same amount of people who don't speak in tongues. So if there is no difference well then guess what tongues Don't do guess what tongues aren't they aren't the issue. They aren't the be all the end all So I would just to help you out young brother. I wouldn't bring that up ever again I would I would make that a case. I'm not saying that not speaking in tongues is the benefit But also speaking tongues is not I'm not sure what you're talking about there Christopher And so since I don't know what you're talking about. I can't address it, but What what's the benefit what so Christopher anyone else tell me? When you pray in tongues and I pray in English Do you have an advantage over me am I am I missing out on something now I? Believe I'm I've got faith. I believe I trust in the Lord. I do Lord knows the stuff that I've gone through and seen Lord knows I trust in the Lord. I Know I I've been taught to do so And all the while not speaking in tongues all the while not speaking to by the way How come it seems that some of the worst now? Let's just let can we can we just be honest for a second here? We're all my Pentecostal people that mom all my charismatic people in the chat Let me ask you guys a question. I've got to ask you guys a question Gotta ask you guys a question before we move on And I'm serious about the question of when you turn on I don't know YouTube or if you look on Facebook or you see something saying something just ridiculous I mean read I'm talking about far out. I mean read I mean as absurd as it can possibly get I mean as Asinine as it by the way, I'll never forget saying that word from a mother in it And she had to stop and think are you cussing? No mama ass nine is not the cuss word It's not built off of heiny. No, but as ass nine is absurd as ridiculous We've heard some ridiculous things Can I ask you a question Chris? Let's be honest and every anyone else who's charismatic or Pentecostal It's not impugning people to speak in tongues, but Almost all of them speak in tongues. That's the problem when you look at the at the at the demon slayers They all speak in tongues when you look at the I'm not talking about the folks that that that's saying no But those that have this horrendous horrendous teaching They almost always not always not always because there are some that are just out there that are there's some progressive out there Who don't speak in tongues? They're just you know extra progress. They're liberal Maybe in terms of invoking the LGBTQ community support so forth, but those folks that that say just some goofy stuff They speak in tongues Adam didn't have a body. He spoke he speaks in tongues All of those that are if I have not the only people who don't speak in tongues who advocate for women being pastors are those that either speak in tongues or those Who are more progressive Leaning people so I'm just I'm just curious as to as to What am I missing out on? Why why is it? Have you heard? Now I might not agree I might not agree with all of my Non-tongue-speaking people, but they're not so far off They're not so way off off the beaten path. You know, I mean, I might disagree with Let's say Premillennialism and I'm a littleism. I may disagree with Issues with salvation. I may disagree with issues regarding the covenants Okay But in terms of what we're seeing out there In terms of doctrine in terms of doctrine you can almost guess That they're likely charismatic But then again, it does kind of go along with what Paul said the time will come when they would not endure sound doctrine So that's my question. What does what does does does tongues help my prayer? Because if it doesn't I don't see that anywhere I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna listen to or play a guy who he has some reasons I never heard this guy before but Are we talking Private tongues or in church either or Either or either or it could be private or what's the benefit? What's the what's the benefit? What about Good if I speak in tongues as they help my reading the Bible or understanding by what we just talked about that It seems like not a matter of fact. It seems like those that speak in tongues Tend that it tends to impede in many cases their Bible reading Because what will they say and I've been accused of this but they'll say that you're relying on head knowledge and so forth and not the Holy Spirit Well, that doesn't even that didn't compute That didn't even compute so The speaking in tongues helped me with my understanding. Does that mean that reading the Bible without tongues is ineffective? I don't think so. I Don't I don't think so So my prayer now before I move on is My prayer less of a prayer prayer life Without tongues By the way, we have y'all do realize we don't have one Recorded prayer in the Bible in tongues not one Not one So if it's so great, we should see it Because they give us the example they give us a pattern by wish to follow and we don't see it Now by the way, brother Dale asking about the private prayers versus public Y'all realize if people prayed in tongues in private, this wouldn't even be an issue First of all, most folks that pray in tongues wouldn't do it if they only did in private But if it was if they only did it in private, well, then we wouldn't know about it So it wouldn't be that big of issue. But so we don't have We don't think that it's an issue It doesn't hinder our prayer by praying in English and Our understanding of the scriptures are not hindered by praying in English Well, there's a few more things we need to look at in a second, but let me just Answer a couple of questions. Jeff says by the way, thank you for super chat. He says He's He prays in tongues. He gives to me in tongue Then he translates I guess in other words in actual words as anyone ever giving you a translation yet off That's that's the other thing rarely. Do you see the folks that that tout speaking in tongues actually bring about a translate? there must be an interpreter to accompany it and rarely Rarely do you get that? Cameron says the way I've heard it described is we are going to heaven But that nine tongue speakers are driving a car and tongue speakers are an airplane Okay They get there bigger faster better. Amen. Amen. If that's the case and amen long as long as we get there As long as we get there Shack, thank you for the super chat. He says God leads you to the desires of your heart But you want to prove yourself to the world. He'll lead you to satisfy your itches your itches throats Not sure if I'm reading it right you want the truth. He'll lead you to it. He led me here God, thank you. But you know what those up? They get me almost want to cry almost want to cry and it's because there's a way that seems right to man But it ends in the way of death. Also, there is a deeper depth at a higher height Are you saying that in favor of of tongue? So and again, I'm open to it. I am I am open to it now Yes, there's a problem right there See, I wouldn't necessarily tell someone to come out of a tongue speaking church But that's a problem right there if they're forcing you to to speak in tongues We would say we would okay. We would say You got to be tearing for the Holy Ghost well What does that mean? It was got to be evident by speaking in tongues Not billically not scripturally and so if someone is forcing it. Let's say you're not there yet You don't you don't see it Let's say they're right and you're wrong, but you don't again the Bible says not all speaking tongues But churches want to force that on people Shame on you church whoever that church is and if they're if they're if they're forcing you That might be the time to leave now, I know some people who who Don't believe in that but they go to a church that does but they love the church family And so hey, listen, it's my family and so I'm not gonna leave them, which is fine I don't know that's not necessarily an issue to leave Especially if you love them so much we're gonna fight for this for the truth that a man a man one way or the other So tongues haven't helped me with my prayer life that I can tell Haven't helped me with understanding the Bible The do tongues help me with my faith Do tongues help me with my faith? That's the only question I'm asking Now faith is Built up by the gospel, which is as I'm reading and understanding and growing in it then that by reading the word by hearing it by By focusing on what it says that builds up my faith You know why because I can look at what God has said he's gonna do Even before I was born and like wow, he actually did that God did that Can I can I just back up for a second? Let's let's let's make this kind of practical in anybody watch sports There's any why they watch sports now. I know I know he didn't say no to this, but Joshua has a Lakers Emblem for his avatar, which I which tells me he doesn't really watch sports But Josh will probably be able to get this though. Let's say if Sports analogy Michael Jordan is in on your team. We need one shot I got faith in him God faith in him You know why because he's demonstrated time and time again that that he he alone not he alone But he can do it now this other guy LeBron no faith in him whatsoever matter of fact He might pass the ball. He might shoot an air ball. I don't know, but I don't have faith I Don't have faith in him. He says blasphemy. You shouldn't have put a Lakers and is that who is that? Is that Kobe or is that is that LeBron this Kobe? You're all right I got listen Kobe Kobe was a killer. He's no LeBron. I mean, he's no he's no Jordan, but So you can you can find someone's action. They've proven time and time again That they can get it done. And so okay, I apologize. I apologize Joshua. I apologize. I apologize But they proven time and time again, they can do it, right? Well, here's why I'm saying that Well, if a mere man on a sports team can as has given us faith in what he can do Surely reading the Bible We can see and we can develop faith in what God has done because we see the proof think about all the prophecies Think about all the prophecies that God has given us and how they have come true Prophecies about Jesus prophecies about Israel prophecy about Alexander the Great and his I think it's one of the greatest prophecies out there his prophecy about Greece growing and then then and then his his empire being divided in four Batteries like a soap opera and it's so it's so detailed That's that's why that's why you could have faith when you believe the report This report by just hearing this report. That's just power that emanates from that. And so the more we read it develops our faith So does speaking in tongues and by by the way Love that jujumara jujumaru asked asked your question. You're more than welcome to ask a question but My faith is not increased by tongues. I Don't think so is it? You know a lot of folks who didn't speak in tongues. We have faith Think about the most righteous people that we see in the Bible in the faith Hall of Fame Not one of them spoke in tongues not one of them spoke in tongues. So That's this tongues bring me closer to God You would think it did and if it did James would have said so You would have thought that hey resisted devil by tongues and draw close to me with tongues, but he didn't say that He didn't say that and I am in complete agreement with you Michael Michael guys Michael is Prophecying right now. He says hit the like button and spread the word. Amen. Amen. Thank you, brother So tell me No, wait, wait a second. Wait a second. Christopher. Listen. I don't I I believe that you love the Lord I believe you love the Lord. I believe that those that speak in tongues in many cases do love the Lord It's not an issue of love It's an issue of understanding the scriptures and then what's what's proper What's what's called for what's protocol? And so I hope no one is is making that the case because I said before but I know a lot of folks who speak in tongues Who love the Lord? I think they do so Incorrectly I'm gonna go there Ivy to do I'm going to do 20 in just a second. I'm going in second Does tongue since then it doesn't guarantee my closest with God it doesn't Bring about more faith bring about better understanding improve my prayer life Does it give me does it keep my faith? Does it keep my salvation? Does tongues help me out with my salvation? Well, no No, didn't guarantee somebody matter of fact the Holy Spirit does so So then There you have the reason why I don't do it why I don't know I used to I used to But I don't anymore. I asked questions and I'm like, well, what what is this for? Listen, if you feel like you're getting a benefit out of tongues well then tongue away But I would ask you to find it in the scriptures now. I did go on to YouTube on to the tuba sphere And I saw a young man What is his name? His name is Dustin Dustin bark Baker or Barker Dustin Barker. This is about a year ago He says the five benefits of speaking in tongues. So I just want to just play a few clips of him speaking I want to play a few clips of him and let's just see if what he says Makes biblical sense Honestly, you are never going to do by the way, by the way, I had to speed it up. So this is not his normal speak I mean his normal speed. So I had to speed it up. So he gives five benefits five reasons for speaking in tongues. I heard them and They're not they're not biblical prior to do something that you think is pointless or just weird So here are five benefits to praying in tongues. So the first benefit you speak mysteries directly to God Tongues is an intimate prayer language between you and the father Okay, the benefit is to speak mysteries Huh, I'm not sure if I catch you Dustin. Why would it benefit me to speak a mystery? Well, let's hear let's hear him some more. We read in 1st Corinthians 14 to here's what it says For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God Indeed, no one understands them. They utter mysteries by the spirit from this verse We see that speaking or praying in a tongue gives you the ability to speak to God now Obviously, I know what you're probably thinking Dustin. I can speak to God in English. Absolutely God understands that but praying in a tongue Is like a secret language that the devil can't understand Okay, this is where this is where Dustin is is just Wrong a couple of things we're gonna look at what he's saying. What paul is saying cover that before we'll cover it again But a secret language. Let me ask you guys a question. Does the devil speak english Honest to goodness question Does the devil speak english? Now if you're going to say that tongues are an angelic language, we're doggone it gosh dogged in the devil an angel Think about the the Let's think our way through this guys Let's think our way first of all, uh, whether he speaks english he can What is the devil's native language? That's the question. What is his native native language? Now, can he can the devil understand us when we speak english or french or german or spanish or whatever? Sure Here's another question Can he understand and I don't know if you guys say there's a such thing as an angelic language, which there is I mean he is not even though you guys said there is an angelic language Which there is not he's still an angel He's still an angel too More importantly, if I don't say a word If I don't speak Am I cloaked To where the devil can't understand he didn't know what i'm thinking Does the devil know what you guys are thinking or does the demon know? Let's let's let's go to the big screen Here you are. Let me use an example. I'm gonna I'm gonna use marshal k By the way, thank you for the emails that you keep sending me mars Um, I'm gonna use marshal k marshal. I don't know marshal. Are you single? I don't I don't know if marshal single or not But let's just say Let's just say what doesn't matter doesn't matter that he matters, but marshal is quiet Marshal looks as godly as they come. I mean super godly super godly But there's some thoughts in his mind right now. They didn't come from heaven and marshal saved He's a save as they come but there's some thoughts in his mind right now Looking over there at these ladies And he is not thinking about the bible study at all Oh Where are these thoughts coming from marshal? I'm picking on marshal. I'm picking on marshal These these thoughts So are we only to to to get away from saying are we to when james says? Resist the devil does he say does he mean resist the devil verbally? Resist the devil in word in english In spanish No Can we be honest most of our sinning Is here before it comes here james says is something we can it's been conceived in us and it comes out so Can I interpret that? jonathan Mt. I got it. I interpret mt. I've got the gift of interpretation so but Our thoughts That's not where the sin the sin that what comes out of the mouth Come proceeds forth from the heart anyway So it's not like I got pure thoughts here pure thoughts here Pure thoughts on my way out and then when it comes out the devil it then turns it now That's not how that works young brother That is not how that works, but And it's like it's like this secret decoder No, no no friend. No not at all. It's a mystery and honestly This is one of the reason that I believe satan hates it and fights it so much in the church And he keeps most of christians not doing it because When does satan fight tongues in the bible? When where what what you've just done though is you're saying that when we fight it when we say something about it is satan That's pretty that's pretty harsh man. That's You're you are you calling us satan? That's pretty harsh brother. That's pretty harsh satan can understand english But tongues are speaking in a mystery to god This means even you don't usually understand what you are praying and you can ask for the interpretation You can ask god to help you understand what you were saying, but often you won't know what you're praying I got older passage. I've got to go to a passage doesn't the bible say that we should understand what we're saying I've always asked this question. How do I know? Well, again, let's go to The one time that that this pray in a tongue comes up. Let's go to First Corinthians 14 He says for if I prayed a tongue my mind my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful So whoever if you pray in a tongue all says my spirit prays with my mind unfruitful What is the outcome then? What's the solution? What should I do? You only ask what you should do if there's a problem Well, the the solution then is I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with my mind also This word noi is this word for mind used for understanding as well Which we also saw in first Corinthians chapter 12 where he says I do not want you to be agnoe to be ignorant or not knowing I want your mind to be fruitful. I want you to know what you're doing And so no, we we are never told to pray mysteries As a matter of fact, there's no command and tell us what you're doing is you're taking this passage And you're saying and you're making this out to be what we're supposed to be doing Well, if that's the case, we should find it We should find it written or commanded somewhere else and we don't have that We should know what we're doing. Remember paul is writing to rebuke something This is this is the letter to the church of Corinth is a letter of rebuke So what is he rebuking regarding tongues? He's regarding the misuse of it. How so? Well, there's only two categories that are here Those that are using it in a way to edify the body using spiritual gifts edify the body And then those that are using it to edify themselves Which is one of the other points that he's going to make into a second. So no, sir, you're wrong on that Most importantly, satan doesn't know what you're praying either. See, it's a mystery not only to yourself But to the devil and his angels as well And again, you can't find that scripture that it's a mystery even to the devil You can't you can't find that so Uh, the next one brings up this is at The through oh it's gonna come up now wouldn't want to be able to speak in secret code to god That's the first benefit of praying in tongues Now the second benefit of praying in a tongue is that when you do it you you edify yourself Stop it. Stop it and keep stopping it. Stop No less than seven eight nine times the bible tells us that we are to we are spiritual gifts are not to edify Uh ourselves we are to edify others I'll go to jude 20 in just a little bit, but All throughout first printings from 12 which says the purpose of spiritual gifts are to Are for the given for the common good of others And then through 14 several times in chapter 14 that does he tells us does he tell us that we are to edify the body Desire to edify since you're a zealous for gifts Then desire to edify the body Yeah, but part rather edify myself. No desire to edify the body Are with me. I don't think they are I think I think it's like you're gonna ignore everything else And make this verse or these verses. Let's just say we've got these verses that we disagree on We disagree on these verses and so I should be able to go elsewhere to prove my point I can go elsewhere to prove my point. I don't have to I disagree with what you guys would not you guys What others say tongues are and so I can go to other verses also to prove my point so that that that way that this Won't be a proof text, but they can only stay here They can only stay here Idiotly you might be asking What does the word edify mean it means to build up or to encourage first Corinthians 14 verse 4 says anyone who speaks in a Tongue edifies themselves the word edify in the greek is oikado male it can literally mean to Build a house so when you are praying in tongues you are encouraging yourself You are building yourself up just as if you were building a house But he just but he told us we're to build up others now again He contrasts building yourself up with building others, which is why you see the word day or the word but again the word But is a word of contrast Not to say hey, this is good, but this is good also. No, that's not how we that's not how we speak We don't speak that way in english We don't see that way in greek either or spanish, you know when you use the word but the word but is a word of contrast Contrasting the two he also brings up Oh Similarly, he says it builds up your faith. Let's go back to it. Let's move this to 430 Here it is It is similar to number two, but it builds you up on your most holy faith This is found in jude 20 where we read but you beloved building yourself up on your most holy faith Praying in the holy spirit. How do I now? Are we told that tongues builds up our faith? Where we told the tongues build your faith? First of all, let's just go to jude 20 Because people are going on people've been asking so let's go to jude 20 jude 20. He says matter of fact Let's just kind of keep it in context But you beloved ought to remember the words that were spoken beforehand by the apostles of our lord jesus christ Which by the way also talks about apostles. They are the apostles of our lord jesus christ That they were saying to you in the last time there will be mockers Following after their own ungodly lust. These are the ones who cause divisions worldly minded devoid of spirit How many times do we see people? Who are in the more in the more charismatic circles? Who are worldly minded? They might be cloaked in They might be cloaked in what looks like their spiritual, but their their desires for things Now they're not the only ones but you see this a lot in the charismatic circle by having things calling things to be That are not but anyway continuing verse 20 But you beloved building yourselves up On your most holy faith praying in the holy spirit Keep yourselves in the love of god awaiting anxiously for the mercy of our lord jesus christ's eternal life a couple things But you the word you hear Let's make this higher the word you hear Is the word head makes we covers before this is plural you all so you all and by the way this building yourself up This is a present active participle Meaning This is kind of as you're doing this so the the pattern of what you're doing So you beloved as you're building yourself up in the most holy faith Praying in the holy spirit Two different things as you're praying in the holy spirit Uh, how do I know so because it's also in uh present active participle Acts as a middle participle present middle participle As you are praying so here's the thing now you're praying for the benefit of yourself He is saying or Let me while i'm butchering this you are praying you're the one that's doing the praying So the two things so while while you're doing what you're doing you beloved as you are By the way the building it yourselves up Is as you are y'all are building up in the and the uterus is Plural also so as you're building others up Also praying in the spirit Two different things keep yourself in love. So what he's really saying, but you beloved keep yourself in love So but he's adding these These adjectival Participles to tell you kind of in the pattern of how you're doing this what you so He's not telling you to build your build your individual self up By praying in the holy spirit He's not saying Grammatically it's not fit. He's not saying build yourself up By praying in the holy spirit No, he's telling you to keep yourself in love remember the the context of this is to Be on guard and not be like these false teachers these false prophets who are coming in Remember the context of this so he says you build you beloved Keep yourselves in the love, but he also throws these two adjectival Participles in there Are with me So he's not saying by the way Let me put the back on the screen Who say it Praying in the holy spirit or praying in the spirit means tongues There's two places and he goes one of them In Ephesians that it's never meant to be in the spirit or in the holy spirit has never anywhere else in the bible Means in tongues So all the 99.99 of the times that it says in the spirit Never means that now all of a sudden because you want to fit tongues in there now all of a sudden means It's not what that means so my friend Dustin you are wrong on that Here's something also that is pretty evident as well He says the benefit of doing so is so that we can know what I'm sorry When we don't know what to pray. So let's go to this the fourth benefit to praying in tongues Is that it helps us pray when we don't know what to pray and it helps us pray out the perfect will of god Check out romans 8 verses 26 and 27 It says likewise the spirit also helps us in our weaknesses for we do not know what to pray for as we ought to But the spirit himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered verse Completely wrong And he's missed it Let's go to romans 8 26 in the same way the spirit also helps our weaknesses for we do not know how to pray As we should let the spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings two deeper words a couple things First of all, what's happening here? What is paul even speaking of in romans 8? He's speaking the fact that we won't be separated from christ That's his point and that we can have this faith this confidence. So he says in the same way The spirit also helps us for we do not know how to pray as we should But the spirit himself intercedes for us. Well, that makes his as a point of the Holy Spirit For us now Why the interceding for us? What was he what what was he talking about in the beginning? What matter of fact, let's go to chapter 8 verse 1 and let's read what he says chapter 8 verse 1 says Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in christ jesus for the law of the spirit of life in christ jesus Has set you free from the law of sin Now was he speaking of he's speaking about the fact that we will not be separated from him He goes through this entire litany of things in romans chapter 8. And so when we get to verse 26 He reiterates this this is how the spirit himself is interceding for us We know even more so about this in in In hebrus because he talks about what the whole point of the holy spirit what the holy spirit is doing for us Look what he says he says with groanings too deep for words. The word here is uh stenogmois Stenogmois. Well the stenogmois is an inward sighing. This is not something that's outward Even your english says this with groanings too deep for words. There are no words coming out The whole this is not speaking in tongues and to say this Indicates my other point that people who tend to speak in tongues Not I should say like that, but a lot of people who speak in tongues Tend to have bad doctrine tend to misunderstand this. This is plain reading. This is not a this is not a Difficult passage to interpret. It's just not it literally says you don't have to know greek It literally says in english With groanings too deep for words or some verses might say with words that cannot be uttered There's nothing coming out of the mouth dustin And then the last one I won't deal with that when he says that Speaking in tongues builds up or puts us on or brings puts us in the armor of god I'll leave that alone, but I just want someone to tell me something That I have missed out on or that anyone misses out on by speaking by not speaking tongues. Tell me Tell us all What do we miss out on by not speak? I don't speak in tongues So what am I missing out on? You speaking tongues. What are you getting? What is the benefit? So I know we've got some folks speaking tongues. Tell me tell us. What do you get as a benefit? I like that It's a it's a secret the benefit that they get that they get that we miss out on it's a secret It's a secret Yeah, so tell us Someone and I'm being honest. I'm being open. I want to know for you guys who speak in tongues What are you getting that we don't get? How are you more benefited than us? Tell me Again, I asked this kind of start me started me on my journey When I was in a church where we spoke in tongues and I'm asking questions. Hey, no, I was a lot younger Why do I need to speak in tongues? Why do you speak in tongues? What's happening? What what? And so help me to understand what I'm missing out on. Why are you speaking in tongues when I ask? Why are you speaking? I don't know I don't I don't that was the response that I got from the pastor. I don't I don't know So help help Help a brother or help a sister help all of us out who don't speak in tongues What in the Christopher? I don't know if you're still there What are what what do you get? from speaking in tongues That I or the rest of the others don't get What am I missing out on because I want to be I want to grow as much as I possibly can now the bible tells me that the way I really grow Is by the scriptures I'm told that all scriptures are inspired by God But you know the Holy Spirit and profitable for teaching or proof for correction for training in righteousness So that the man of God may be adequate Adequately, I'm sorry. Maybe adequate Equip for every good work. So according to that the word of God is all I need Listen, I hear you Tonya. I really do and I'm not trying to I'm not trying to harp or anything or beat that on you But don't you think you should understand the thing? That would be my question That way at the very least you're not doing anything out of order So if you're going to do it, I think you ought to know what it is. You're doing why you're doing it You should under we literally have the word of God before us We can open up and read it and we can we can study it We don't have to do something Today if we don't understand it so that way I've got time You've got time time or anyone else to sit and learn this and read it and get understanding and if you don't get understanding Well, then don't do it Don't do something without any understanding. Are you with me? Because again, that's what Paul says in chapter 12 He says, I don't want you to be ignorant concerning these spiritual things so Okay, the benefits are rewards if you use the gift properly how so what what are the rewards? No, you're not blocked. Uh, Sharice. No one's going to block you Hmm Uh, what what are the what are the rewards that a tongue speaker gets that a non-tongue speaker gets that didn't get I'm sorry That's the that's the that's the issue now. Oh, by the way, Sharice It could have been that you that you were typing and then you remember guys were on we're on slow mode So if you type while we're on a slow mode and you're the clock hadn't fully come around What you type won't show up So but okay, but what what treasure what treasures in heaven do you get that I don't get? I got salvation I have the holy spirit in me And so what what indeed do we miss out on? Helping other people. Well, I can I I'll put my record against other folks and I'm pretty sure other people as well will do the same thing How many of you have been blessed To be used by the lord Who don't speak in tongues have been blessed to use by the lord to help other people out I could say yes. I'm pretty sure I know for a fact I'm not the only one I know I'm not the only I know there's a lot of people out there Who he's he's right? You're saying he's right, but right? How? So you can't this is what I'm saying if if this is so important If this is so important, you should be able to spell it out It shouldn't be something that's ambiguous and I okay, you got these blessings. Well, what blessings I can't explain I can't tell you well then wait. Well, then why should we why should I do something? On your word or anyone else's word if you can't explain to me You should be able to tell me what the rewards are what the blessings are Other than saying I know that's not not not your intent, but if you're going to tell me something don't explain well Then why are you telling me that? Okay, I can explain it. Don't tell me you can explain it begin to explain it What are the benefits of speaking in tongues? What are the blessings? What are the heavenly blessings? We need to know Now you said I can't explain it or do you or did you mean I can't explain it? Help us out Help us out We we need to know No, uh, manny again, I'm not against people who speak in tongues at all Uh privately and if it benefits them get well again Our issue is not people who speak in tongues privately We got folks who speak in tongues We got folks who speak in tongues But they speak in tongues outwardly If you spoke in tongues privately this if the folks who speak in tongues privately spoke in tongues privately only This wouldn't be an issue Problem is your private speaking is coming out publicly and then we're also asking for an interpreter into what the word to do You're our brothers You're part of our body manny you are part of our body and so part of the body. Don't I have a right to say? Hey, what's happening here? I should be able to ask my my hand my mouth should be able to say hey finger What's going on with you leg? What's going on with you? We're part of the body. So so therefore there's concern So I'm looking for and and guys Shari said curse the slow mode So I'm looking for people by the way and you used up your typing to say that I'm messing with you, but I'm looking for someone to help us out You say uh decide it brings a closer connection with God. How? First of all, there's no way that you could possibly know that your tongues brings a closer connection with God There's no way you can know that. How do I know because who do you compare it with? Certainly not with anyone else And you say well, I can say well before I spoke in tongues Versus now I'm closer to God now that I speak in tongues Really is it time? Is it just your faith? Is it your walk? Because when I spoke in tongues versus now I'm closer now than I was then And the question is going to be still how so how does that? How does your speaking in tongues bring about a closer connection with God? When no one in the bible makes it makes that claim nowhere in the bible is that claim made See now what we're doing is now what we're doing is we're giving our opinions Because nowhere in the bible does it say that speaking in tongues brings about a closer connection Didn't say that Okay, well listen if that's the case you say If that's the tongues you're speaking of your tongues you're speaking of our languages then amen He says I'm assuming you're a man. You might be a woman. I'm sorry if you are but Our brethren says that the rewards are the same But the gift allows you to reach more people who don't speak your native language Well, the name man on that if you're speaking in actual if you are speaking mandarin To folks who are speaking mandarin To give them a gospel that amen Can't deny that can't deny that Yeah, if if someone is saying it's required to prove your salvation when they they don't know the bible In order to say it's required to prove your salvation or to prove you have the holy spirit They don't know the bible because it didn't say that matter of fact If they were to go to some of the various passages We see in acts a lot of folks who got saved did not speak in tongues Y'all do realize Y'all y'all do realize There's only one time in the bible Let me say this again if tongues are so important There is one time in the bible one Where we actually hear Witness the people actually speaking in tongues In acts 10 They tell us that they hear them speaking in tongues But we don't actually hear what they say in these languages. We don't hear it We don't we don't witness it But if you want to add that that's fine. So let's just say acts 10 and acts two They're speaking actual languages And acts two the one time that we actually see it and we actually see a when it's done We see it accompanied by interpretation as Peter tells us because of what's being said and the people oh by the way hear it Um other than that We don't see people in the bible getting saved and speaking in tongues We assume that that's what happened in chapter 8 We assume that And paul is rebuking in chapter 14 chapter 12 and 14 as a matter of fact But all these other folks throughout the scriptures that are coming to the lord aren't speaking in these languages So that could not be a validation And especially when paul says in chapter 12 29 and 30 that not all of us are going to speak in these languages Excuse me So So my question is What am I missing? I need to know so okay Tanya says praying in the holy spirit and by the way, thank you for being good sport tanya Praying in the holy spirit is spirit led prayer praying the word. How do you know a spirit led prayer? But you're saying praying uh the word will and mysteries of god over your life circumstances. So what mysteries? You're praying it What what so are so are you telling god think about this for a second? And think about what the young man said that we're praying mysteries The mysteries that paul is bringing up says basically no one knows what you're saying It's a mystery. No one knows what he's saying. Are you telling me that you are speaking a mystery to god? I want you all to think about this if that's the case if you if a person's praying in tongues and speaking a mystery to god Why what is the holy spirit revealing a mystery to god that god didn't know or just they're just Confirming a mystery same thing either way you don't know what's happening So you're still you are still literally left out of the loop And what is he confirming to you? That he hadn't confirmed to anyone else in english This is what I want to know The problem is though the problem is guys is there is no actual answer There's guessing there's hoping But there certainly is no biblical text To back it up Christopher, you're still there. I want you to tell us christopher. What is the benefit that you get from speaking tongues? I don't get or that anyone else gets I think honestly in all in all seriousness heat. I think heath is right It makes you feel special. That's what paul says since you have this the zeal for spiritual gifts or spiritual things Well, then what should you desire? But it makes you feel more empowered more emboldened because when you speak in tongues What happens people patching them back? Oh, that was that was that was they think you are more anointed. They think you are more special Folks look at you differently Let's be honest tell the truth I'm devil when you when you in pentecostal church charismatic church and you go to speaking in tongues folks like amen Praise god and are saying amen But paul says how can it's a person say how can a person give the amen to that you can't I can't say amen when you're spreading tongues And I have no idea what you just said Why is that important because I have to be able to agree with what you're saying you're part of the body But it makes you feel good. It makes you feel better Kyle, are you asking are you asking me the question? I'm not sure if you're asking me the question I like that alex. I like that. So I guess I guess we're gonna have to just end With this great mystery Maybe someone is going to leave a leave a comment in the chats Maybe maybe someone is going to um Maybe someone is going to enlighten maybe the lord will show up tonight and tell me That there's a benefit to speaking in tongues It's not in the word that tells me what the benefit is I'm just wondering what is the benefit of it. I want to know what And I I guess I guess I'll never get the answer But I'll give you guys time because maybe I just sprung this question upon you guys too quick So I'll give you guys some time you can take your time Respond back when you feel Since you're praying tongues. Thank you Michael. I appreciate that since you feel This awesome presence Pray in tongues and ask the lord to reveal to you that you can reveal to me I'll accept it if you can reveal to me um Why or what the benefit is of speaking in tongues is If you can if you can do so Well, thank you. Is it i michael i michael. I first of all, I like the name michael. I like the name michael Secondly, I like the fact that you have glasses on But I don't like the fact that you got here michael. Let me help you out brother Get you a razor You know go against the grain go against the grain and You talk about edifying yourself you talking about That hair is holding you back, but I appreciate the kind of words. Thank you so much. Thank you so much You don't really want and this is why I asked people So could be I could be wrong could be wrong. I've been wrong on a bunch of things I've been wrong on so many things. I mean man at least last I was wrong at least twice last year So I've been wrong. I'm joking. Somebody say look at court um But actually stay out of this. Ashley said don't do it go cut your hair. Now, actually you don't cut your hair, but But michael gone cut it as you get older the lord might cut it for you So I'm sorry. I was reading something else But maybe someone will pray and give me an understanding Guidance on the benefit of it because if we need to I want to know No, no, no, no time. You're right tongues is not a heaven or hell issue But what I believe it it ultimately is Is a biblical Um growth issue in other words in other words growing in the work The bible tells us to grow in the grace and the knowledge of the lord No, he didn't listen the the benefits he gave were The the benefits that everyone that I've ever heard given Every time I've heard someone give benefits for speaking in tongues It's never been biblical. It's always been anecdotal. It's always been their opinion. That's how I feel Well, how you feel it's different how I feel some folks the reason why I drink coffee I like the benefits other folks have well, I don't need coffee for that benefit and it's true. So No, he did not but Guys you have time you can come back and say hey, listen, this is what I this is what I think this is what I feel Uh, these are the benefits that I've gotten from and so that's what I don't know What benefits have you gotten that I can glean? for speaking in tongues And and and I I will approach it in an honest fashion um, and so That's what I look to do in the meantime guys. Thank you so much. Uh, I enjoyed the the conversation Uh, the back and forth No, Katrina the bible doesn't say that you need to The bible doesn't say that you need to so I'm just the whole point is why I don't need to I don't need to speak in tongues But other folks will tell me that You need to Um, no lift your hands is it doesn't edify us. We we've covered the passage before that speaks about what edifies us Um, so anyway guys love you so much. I look forward to seeing you all tomorrow. Be blessed