 You know what as long as the next no we have some chocolate dark chocolate bars often, but not like candy I have 12 bars of whatchamacallit's left. You still do. I don't eat kind bars in the house. I Actually, I keep cookies or candy bars or anything. Do you keep anything the freezer? Do you guys keep like oh like a case they'll have like a Trader Joe's like twin burrito pack like oh Trader Joe's is so close I always have a few microwave burritos at hand just in case I'm like I'm really hungry and I don't have time and you know Yeah, it's like emergency food. I have leftovers in the freezer for that exact reason I have a bunch of pot stickers up at 99 ranch and I steam them for six minutes in my rice cooker and the meatballs are kind of that too Like we can throw meatballs in the microwave heat up some tomato sauce and you know Skip the spaghetti and just have meatballs spaghetti. Just meatballs and spaghetti sauce Yeah, Trader Joe's is the best. I know we didn't we didn't end up putting that Whole Foods story in here, but I've never really it's not one near me. So I never really shop there We have one really it's actually the closest grocery store by distance to us and I never go there either It's hard because honestly, it's kind of pricey for what you get and The selection though is that if you're an Amazon Prime member you get the discount. So theoretically that takes that out of the equation Like they don't have this stuff Like I would snack on most of the time See, that's the only grocery store I go to interesting like if someone says like oh Ralph's I'm like, where's that? Even though I know that there's one actually pretty close to me Good This is why I'm in debt Because I shoot Whole Foods is like I just know the layout. I know all the stuff Okay, few things I can't get there like cleaning products. I'm like, I just have to go to some Go there more often, but it also was trouble like to park and get in and out of and it's like I forget it Yeah, I never thought I'd be shopping at Trader Joe's because I always shopped at Ralph's and I was like, oh, it's gonna be too expensive But it's actually Pretty pretty good Yeah, it's not hot. It's not on and it's convenient. I really have to cook cook. They have most things I could just kind of heat up. Yeah, that I eat so it's perfect. I Buy their little frozen brown rice packs for 250 I eat those all the time. They're great I just save them for when I throw it in with soup because I always get the progressive vegetable soup and there's usually not enough vegetable I have a pack of frozen vegetables. I throw Roger if you're sponsored by progress on I find out I am calling my dad worked on progressive Yeah, he did he was part of the engineering team that designed He had to go to Italy and do do a bunch of stuff Let you disclose that so you know, we know yeah, I mean he's dead. So it's I'm sorry cheese still work. I thought terrible. No, no, no, it's fine. It was a long time ago I progress Okay, well on that happy note. Yeah Shall we Do a little Techno here and roll here. Why not read just retweetness. Okay. We're good. All right. Good. Good. Everybody good Here we go Support the daily tech news show directly and you can get it commercial free and get a few other perks That's a daily tech news show comm slash support to find out more This is the daily tech news for Monday, June 25th, 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane also in Los Angeles. I'm Lamar Wilson and Also, at least in LA County is our producer Roger Chang. Hello. I'm also sharing the county with these three people Same County as all of you. I know we have a little inside the county perspective here today But it's gonna be a good show Instagram TV. What is it good for Lamar will tell us a little later on? Stay tuned guys. Stay tuned. Let's start with a few tech things you should know PayPal announced Monday. It's launching a debit card for Venmo users PayPal obviously owns Venmo Users can pay with a mastercard in stores which pulls funds directly from their Venmo balance Now Bloomberg report sources tell it Apple is working on noise counseling versions of the Apple AirPods That would also be water-resistant now Apple supposedly considering Biometric sensors like a heart rate monitor for future AirPods Bloomberg previously reported sources saying that a refreshed AirPods would come out by the end of this year With support for a hands-free voice control Hey, sir We Google has added some security metadata to Android apps to indicate if they are legitimate the metadata would allow apps from Non-Google stores to be recognized by the play store show up in your library get updates through the play store, etc It's gonna be a good thing for people who use third-party stores a lot It'll also help identify false apps that tend to be malware prevent those from working However, some people are concerned because the metadata could also be used like DRM Letting developers prevent modifications or even disable older versions of apps to make you upgrade to a new app That may be they're charging for something like that not on Android No All right, let's talk a little bit more about Xbox Yes, so Windows Central obtained an internal Microsoft presentation Detailing plans for mouse and keyboard support for the Xbox one that a presentation mentioned that April API for developers with an Autumn announcement for consumers. Although these dates may have changed any non Bluetooth USB mouse and keyboard would supposedly work Now this was this has been rumored for quite a while for the Xbox It's it's a interesting rumor. They've all pretty much all but confirmed that this is coming Well, yeah, Spencer say within months like two years ago Yeah, he did so it's just been delayed and delayed there's some issues Obviously when it comes down to pairing online with someone who's using a mouse and keyboard versus someone like match Absolutely, so the article was saying that it'll be up to the publisher or the developer to put, you know code or whatever in there to make sure that a Personal mouse and keyboard would be paired with someone only whose mouse and keyboard or at least if they notice There's a significant difference between the two they would take that into account. Yeah Yeah, you know, it's interesting because when you think about the game for tonight You can play with you know, you can have a group with people on a PC on mobile and on Xbox or a switch PS4 is he's kind of iffy with that And it's been working pretty fine, you know, but you know for the most part for that You know, there's some mobile people who have had the one up on people with a PC So I guess there's an argument for it for this to be to work I don't really see the appeal of it But you know, I'm just a casual gamer. It depends on the game, right? I could I could see games where it would would cause a mismatch and they and that's why Microsoft's telling developers look at it Make sure that there's not a huge mismatch and if there is a just for it, but But yeah, I I definitely there are games that I prefer to use a keyboard for but they're all PC games I can't think of any Xbox games that I would play that I would prefer the keyboard But I guess there are people who just like it The only one I could think of is like city skylines or something like that or you know We're Sims or it's some kind of sim city type of thing where you have to kind of draw things around And it's I sort of caught myself in a logical loop there because I'm like, yeah But I only play those on PC because then I have a keyboard, but I guess if I had a keyboard I could play the next part And if you're like wait, but no wireless it has to be wired it will work with wireless Bluetooth or wireless keyboards and mice that have a USB Dongle basically. Yes. It just won't work with Bluetooth only mice, right? Let's move to Sweden because things are getting crazy Sweden has a wonderful place Sweden gave us Abba Sweden gave us Skype also Spotify just to name a few But the next web it calls attention to the fact that about 3500 Swedes have implanted chips into their bodies Usually in the hand between the thumb and the index finger a video from at D Zine back in October show that the Swedish Australian operator SJ railways is trialing a program to allow embedded chips to work with railway passes So compare this to the story we've covered previously about the Australians like body hacker Who embedded his opal card chip and went to court to defend his right to use it that way and the Australian trains were like Wow, that's a violation. You can't do that court said no if the chip works. That's fine in Sweden The rail station is like yes We're trialing a system to make it easy to integrate any RFID chip into our train system so that you can add your your rail number to Your hand and use that Video of them like scanning someone's hand on the train to make sure they've properly paid for their ticket And I mean anytime that I'm in Europe, which wasn't very recently and I'm on a train It's like, you know, like you could see the person coming you're like where's my ticket? Oh gosh So like in you know, very very, you know Specific sense. It's like that's a wonderful idea but obviously the idea of would you implant this yourself and why is it happening in Sweden more than other places even in the rest of Europe is another discussion and a lot of it has to do with just that, you know, the government and the way life isn't Sweden and Not necessarily that people aren't paranoid about the implications of what could go wrong here But more like, you know, it's just convenient. Yeah They're a little bit more relaxed there. There's a Article mentioned a group called transhumanist who are and who are focused on improving and enhancing the human body of you know Just to improve the human race. And once I read about that, it's like, yeah, I I identified now as transhumanist Yeah, I want to do this I will watch orphan black before you say that I'm still in Y'all I have to say I think that the fears can be overblown in a story like this People talking about privacy and tracking if it's properly managed It's no different than any other card to have it implanted in you If you long as you control the information and it's erasable and all of that, but This may be the line where I become an old man Because I don't want anybody injected nothing under my in my hand. No I don't want to do that. Yeah, that's the thing is like, yeah If it if it acts exactly like what was in your wallet or smartphone anyway And it won't ever go away great when it's convenient But let's just say for whatever reason you just don't want it on you then what happens? How do you get it out? And I think in the future if this catches on people like that was an overblown fear You can you can there are ways to disable it, etc. Right there's always there's always ways to make stuff like this work around the fears My I'm what I'm saying is I just don't want I just don't want it in me. Yeah Although I did put but what if you get lost we'll need to find you. Yes I'm probably getting to the age where that needs to be What if you're running from the locks on they need to be able to find you easy But no, it's it's short distance and I know my hand in tin foil. All right Strawberry growers in the UK and the US say they can't hire enough laborers to pick the harvests Sometimes having to leave produce in the field to rot because there's not enough labor the BBC reports on several startups Creating robots to do the picking thanks to advances in computer vision and machine learning Belgium's Octinian is conducting the final phase of field trials in the UK and Europe right now For strawberries grown on raised platforms Octinian can pick one berry every four seconds Which is equal to humans Cambridge UK's dogtooth has been testing a picker in Australia That one not only recognizes ripe fruit by grades And and can sort them by size and quality but also doesn't need to be on raised platforms get pick it up right off the ground and Both Spain's agrobot which will be commercially available in California next year and harvest crew Which is close to launch in Florida use tractor like vehicles spanning several rows with arms that swing down And the other advantage to robots is they can pick at night When when it's a little colder and that lengthens the shelf life and reduces bruising Yeah, I thought this is interesting I mean, I don't want to go into a political issue here But you know, but there are if the fact is there are people who don't want to you know do this type of work You know, you know, you can argue there are people who do who are not able to right now Didn't won't go there, but but but the I think if there's truly no one Wanting to deal with this kind of work I don't see the issue of if the the robot can be more efficient And it can work at night and it picks the right for you knows what's right It knows was not it's not scared of snakes like I would be in out there I'm like Why haven't we done this already? Because we are a type of nation that don't like to do that kind of work. That's kind of how we're we're We're built here I the CEO of harvest crew says in this article that they pay 30 to 50 dollars an hour to pick strawberries I looked I could only find advertising really to $10 an hour. So I think there's some exaggeration going I'm in a wrong field other reasons that they aren't staffing up and prefer robots that they don't want to admit But I think the technology is fascinating and it certainly is a job that people Wouldn't want to have to do if they didn't have to I maybe there's a few people out there just love picket strawberries, but sure So there's a lot of interesting angles on this story for sure any crop that you have to Bend over and pick is very taxing on the human body like bending over and so it's a it's a has a high Washout rate because people physically can't do the work after a couple of years Interesting cool So I'm moving on BuzzFeed posted an article I found this really interesting it focused on restaurant wait staff and how table top tablets can be problematic Now tablets are meant to easily order drinks appetizers and desserts and let customers pay their bill from the table without talking to a server I love that BuzzFeed mainly focuses on is it ziask? Ziosk yeah, yeah, the ass tablets which are in more than 4500 restaurants across the United States and Also include a satisfaction survey at the end of every meal which gives server scores Now the ziask or ziask scores are Entitled as an average of out of five stars and on a device It says four out of the five means satisfied But anything less than perfect drags a score down and it has the potential to hurt the server now several people Told BuzzFeed that they lost shifts and wages because of this and I Man, I read this early morning and I was blown away about how Powerful this I know you mentioned sir. You never really seen these but like at Applebee's or Red Lobster to the type of type of restaurants have these and you never really think about it You know, you I love, you know, be able to order drinks on there and order your stuff paid really easily But that satisfaction survey I'd never realized just just saying satisfied if I was just fine That actually can cut the wages of that person that manager be like, okay, you've got too many Non-perfects, we're gonna cut your wages the next week and or your hour, excuse me, which ends up cutting the wages and things like The food didn't taste right whatever things that are out of the service control that is the cook's cook staff Or I didn't like that. You didn't have a certain beer that I wanted, you know Things like that all bring the score down and I just it seems very unfair that that a lot of restaurants Will use this to to punish the workers. Well, you know, it's funny this morning I was like when the last time I saw a tablet in a restaurant I've seen it, you know, but not lately and you guys were like, oh, they're everywhere Certain chains that just you know, aren't close to you But there's a couple things going on here to me is like first of all Yeah, if you give somebody ratings and someone says satisfied Satisfied and the server gets a four out of five and that drags down an overall score like almost like an Uber driver or an Uber passenger It's like, okay Well, nothing was actually wrong But somehow I'm docked in because people are sort of confused by the rating system The other thing I think is that and this is sort of more of a big broad, you know, you know Point about humanity is the less that you sort of look somebody in the eye and interact with them human to human Even if it's convenient can sometimes make it easier to Do stuff that you know, the Buzzfeed report is it's actually really good article It's not just about people being like this was a bad server But just kind of like joking around or you know, playing on the tablet and just stuff that they don't realize actually has a lasting effect on the person Oh, yeah, absolutely Yeah, in addition to zeus there's a company called presto prime that does these tablets And they both suffer from the same issue and nobody wants to take responsibility for it The tablets are meant to make it more efficient to make the server's life easier because orders and payment can be made from the tablet But because they include these surveys, the companies have all started to use the aggregated results of the surveys to judge the employees But there is absolutely no science behind the surveys and they all fall into the very common and long-standing Problem of surveys, which is people who read them generally say, oh if you didn't get a five you suck And so therefore the people who are at the at the end of the surveys effects start to have to tell the people Hey, you need to give me a five on this I had that happen at several different places at a car dealership I've had it happen at a travel agency where they explicitly told me like there'll be a Please give me five stars anything less than five stars is damaging to me and that's what's going on here It's not a problem with the technology It's a problem with this idea that we can have data and use it to make decisions without knowing how good the data is And this is crap data here I mean Restaurant doesn't have to use radians in order to you know, take away somebody shifts But it also it points to somebody being like well, what happened what I do and you know The manager might not necessarily know they're like well 4.5 not good And and that's it's the it's the thing to do right go by the data But if the data is calculated as Lamar said because like oh one of the questions was did you like your food? My service was perfect. I didn't really like the food I'm gonna give him a three on that and then that hurts the servers score and then they start to lose shifts It's just that it's just an awful implementation and there needs to be better science behind Hey, if you're gonna use data, this is how you use it not just throwing these things at restaurants And then the chain saying well the managers couldn't implement it however they want but the manager saying but the chains require us to send notes To the district manager. It's just a mess. It's absolutely. Yeah Yeah, no one's taking responsibility for it And the easy thing is just not to have a darn service that I really do those things anyway because it's just like I just Once I pay just want to get out of there. So you know, if you're if you need one of these restaurants Just leave all fives unless the person like kicked you in the shins or something and just leave all fives because they're worthless Not the servers or yeah, no surveys. Yeah, the surveys I mean, there's been there have been some servers that I wasn't thrilled with but yes It's sort of like we're let's just go back to how tipping works in general like was it awful, you know This person's you know working for money and you know, give him a break Adobe researcher Vlad Merarium taught an AI system to scan for signs of image editing that a human eye might miss and also is In addition to metadata like color change and noise inconsistencies in tens of thousands of pictures I think he's been doing this for about 14 years the initial study focused on three common manipulation techniques splicing Copy move and removal all techniques that tend to leave certain artifacts Merarium's research was done in conjunction with the US government agency DARPA. So yeah, this is taking things We already knew but are hard and time-intensive to find to determine if an image has been manipulated And teaching an AI to identify them the arms race continues Yeah, I mean this started being done with with video, right? There was example like a video of a former president Obama saying Yeah, exactly so that this was definitely coming and I would think it'll be a lot easier on pictures and images to Identify them. Yeah, and I'm sure they'll be they'll be work following to to detect manipulated video as well And then people will use AI's to come up with better video and images that can defeat the AI's and then those AI's get better in the Yeah, I mean manipulation of Video and and still photos is like I don't even have a problem with that It's like if I see a beautiful photo in Vogue magazine, it's like I assume it's been touched up in some form But just having some sort of little banner, you know, whether you care or not just something that indicates Yes, this has been edited the way a comment is edited on Facebook or something would be nice It's obviously it, you know, it's a tough job, but I Appreciate people who are working to figure that out Yeah, and now we have we have a way to check and see if it isn't labeled whether it was touched up anyway At least for now. Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines Com last week. We told you about IG TV Instagram's new longer form area for video It's a standalone app as well as being able to be accessed through the regular Instagram app And of course VidCon was happening and YouTube announced a bunch of new revenue options for creators Lamar This is the world in which you live making videos on YouTube and trying to take advantage of any new Systems that come along. Let's start with what are you thinking about IG TV? so IG TV just kind of they were rumors about it right from TechCrunch and then it just landed last week and And immediately but my you know, my spidey sense was tingling, you know, I was I was thinking, okay So we have up to an hour of video and the reality is I think most people have been out super big It's up to ten minutes of video here Vertical which you know that there's there's that, you know, you vertical thing But then you think about it and we've been watching Instagram stories for how many years now in vertical? Snapchat it's all in vertical like it's another old man thing that guy doesn't want chip implanted and he doesn't like vertical video He's old exactly and it's gonna want to say the studies show that you actually get more views In vertical because people don't have to turn their phone and that was a really interesting thing So so in thinking about all of that and seeing what Instagram is offering is like a Not it not to take down YouTube But a completely different thing for for a way for people to upload and be creative with vying being gone for a few years ago And I got really excited. I looked at this as Especially let's really focus on me. So someone who's been on YouTube about ten years now sure kind of in in my little box No pun intended because I do unboxings But just kind of in my box of what I do there are other things I would love to do But the the idea of making another channel on YouTube and starting that over with the you know from zero That just doesn't is the algorithm doesn't work well with that This came along my first thought was wow I can do some I could do some of the things that I've been wanting to do Creatively here with people already who already follow me. So, you know, I got over a hundred thousand people on there What can I create that that will that will excite and give those, you know That would be new content. And so, you know, I've been testing I've done three videos so far The latest one was like a behind-the-scenes Tour of my my desk set up and people love that And I I'm getting a lot of good ideas under our friend Rich DeMiro whose KTLA I've been watching his he's doing like Pretty much like a daily vlog where he's just sitting there one take and answering people's questions Like he'll he'll get a question from the comments today before and he'll address And I think anything like that is good. I have seen some what I consider bad I I see some youtubers, unfortunately Losing it says hey, I'll just upload all my old stuff that I've been doing for years and You can do that, but I think Instagram is really looking for original content here like something that it's not Constantly tying you to another platform something that you can make there Also, the other full pile is people and I yelled at one of my friends about this is uploading deliberately Let the the widescreen mode. So it's Yeah, no no forcing you turn your phone Yeah, so because they're trying to book the system in it and it's like I don't watch those This is meant to be vertical. I want to stick to it. So Instagram and YouTube thing reminds me of when Instagram started Copying snapchat, right? Two years ago, whatever that was and it was like what I saw was a friend of mine would post something on snapchat And then something pretty similar, you know for Instagram stories like I'm just gonna do it in both places And so it was like that's just that wasn't valuable to me What Instagram hopes is that there's not enough overlap between who's following you there versus who's following you on Say a YouTube or wherever you have another audience and that becomes something that you end up Putting more value into and you abandoned where you were before Yeah, that's it. You know, that's that's I'm sure they will love that. I'm not abandoning you I mean it I mean you choose what I live on so they don't have also They're gonna have monetization soon, you know, Instagram you don't know what that Instagram monetization is gonna be So it'd be silly to just ditch all your YouTube Yeah, something that you don't even know how it's gonna work Yeah, but also think it's a little silly in my case I'm not talking about people in general to to not at least Consider it not at least start now. I gotta had a one or two friends It's like I'm just gonna sit back and wait to see what happens to this I'm like, that's that's kind of mistake. I'm able to find and then when I finally decided Oh, I should do this. It's too late. You know, it's been saturated. So I'm trying to get in early on this and I I am so geeked about I feel like it's a lot of promise in a way What did you do something fresh that I haven't been able to do on YouTube because YouTube is so kind of old and what's that? Olden it's not old in the tooth long tooth or whatever that long in the tooth. Yeah, long. Yeah So, yeah, this this is you know, Instagram's been around for a while. I've had an account a while This is new and and and fresh and one of the reasons I don't like doing stories as much is because of that limit Yeah, but when it has something longer to say after hit Paul uploaded then say and then you see people with like 15 different Posts that they're trying to say one complete thought and I think this solves solves that a lot So are you considering that I would see you post on there yet I posted a video of my dog playing fetch with my wife just oh, I did see that one. I'm sorry how it worked The community there is going it's gonna let you know of your videos too long Sure, I like yeah, they give you an hour. 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Yeah, some of those facts are true Logan from what he calls sunny Baltimore Congratulations logo Logan has some feedback on Amazon's hospitality version of its assistant We talked about this last week in hotels Logan says I stayed in a boutique on Chicago that had an echo in every room I happen to live in hotels 10 months straight out of the year Logan is a busy traveler and one use I can see with echoes is disrupting the traditional concierge service that we see in hotels With the digital variant way not to bother somebody in the lobby or wait in line to get what you need from the concierge Where you could just ask the speaker in your room one of the features I missed though was being able to connect my Amazon music service to the room So I'm glad it looks like that is a feature coming at least in these Marriott hotel variants that they're rolling out with Initially the device was able to control the thermostat the lights in my room really well But I like the idea of requesting room service. That's not something you necessarily need every day But it keeps you from having to make a phone call and bugging somebody downstairs See room service is the one that I can't make up my mind about on the one hand. I love the idea of being able to say Send a burger to my room, right and then be done with it But there's so many opportunities for misunderstanding and room service anybody who stayed in a hotel and ordered room service It was this that I like to be able to you know talk to a person and like so you so you've got my order correct This is what I want And it's not like I'm being picky about stuff But just sometimes there's various options on the menu and I'd be worried that the echo wouldn't be set up with the right Defaults to to give me what I want sometimes Well Lamar you do you do a fair amount of traveling do you Do you like the idea of an echo in your room or is I do I'm sit a reason I was sitting here thinking I was in deep thought thinking about the room service idea and I was like It's time being a old man or is he accurate here? And I do question I think it's a mix of mix of both there. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, you have a good part with that. I love the idea it like If it's the echo of it's the Google whatever it you know, if it's something that just makes my stay there easier Then it's fine As long as you know, you're not hearing your your neighbors next to you yelling Oh The lights Well, I mean obviously logo logo Logan at traveling ten months out of the year I he's traveling a lot more than I do and most people listening, you know I would would would say the same but it does just point to him say, you know, I'm out of town I want my Amazon stuff. It just it it Decreases the friction if it works correctly in you know us moving around and I think that that's just The trend that we're gonna see a lot more of yeah agreed Well, another trend I'd like to see a lot more of is Lamar Wilson being on Daily Tech news show Thanks for being with us this morning. We've missed you. What's going on? 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Yeah People who experience the show in any kind whether they're patrons or not are audio people so they'll never get this ending part It's just this is like just for video the patrons get an audio version that includes the pre-show and the post show Oh, okay, they'll get this in audio. Yeah, okay But just a regular podcast the video podcast people and the YouTube people are the only ones who get Video and they get a little bit of this post show not all gotcha. Okay also Audio's coming back man Like it's ever been gone Audio's make it a comeback Right there with oxygen. Yeah, this might be a thing one day That podcasting we might catch on one is what you're saying catch on. Yeah, man. They may miss a go Mike such a big not just for dogs Microchipping dogs anymore. That's a good title. That's a good one. I like it. Is that your favorite Roger? I was looking at strawberry pie, but I don't know I'm on the fence on that one. Well, we didn't really talk about pie. Yeah That was a pre-show thing. I mean, I always like pie. That will be a revolution in labor Strawberry robots because that is a holy grail. I've been saying this Tom knows very well on the show like If you can get a robot that can that can handle fruit You're like 80% of the way there for any other delicate test because fruits are so easy to smush I mean granted they grow certain varieties of oranges and tomatoes and stuff to handle the Picking and shipping and sorting process But like fruit you can't kiwi fruit Another thing is that I was watching some documentary something on Netflix But how much we waste food and just like we and the waste comes from Not even before we get it because of how people, you know, they're like, oh, this is not gonna sell because it doesn't look pretty Like we're very much about looks when it comes, you know, like carrots have to look perfect or so There's a lot of waste like 40% of it gets wasted and it should go to like food shelters or you know Or something we put in some soups. I like it's nothing wrong with it You just it doesn't look pretty for the for the shells look appealing and it's weird because you think about it baby carrots were actually kind of Unsulled carrots because people thought they looked to form because they're so tiny but a farmer came up with an idea Why don't I just repackage them and call them baby carrots? Became a thing and that's why maybe it's our little bags. Yep The same but It's terrible. No, I Mean they do spray some stuff on there to keep them like, yeah I heard they're not the most healthy thing to eat which is where it's No, the baby ones because the stuff they spray on it to keep them fresh or whatever because once they peel it Yeah, and then once you feel it. Yeah, you taking off vitamins when you peel it and yeah But they help you see Yeah, also high in sugar fish make you smart carrots help you Remember when the Atkins kind of craze started it was like carrots with the enemy all of a sudden because they're high in sugar for Dietary sugar I will agree with Roger sugar is all sugar but but sugar in a natural delivery mechanism is metabolized different Yeah, sugar like that is added But if you have a sugar that's processed in other words, you have a bag of sugar. Mm-hmm. You you don't have any of that if it's The thing is like hey Roger. I did you did you are you? Selected somebody Zoe says it's not switching between who's speaking No Okay, wait you say something Tom. I'm saying something. Hello I know I Don't know did it break. Did I break it? Hangouts was I didn't say anything because the show rolled fine, but it's been a little weird at least Connection yeah Was it shifting it during the show I hope so because it looked that way from my end It was stuck on Roger said Zoe but after no, but after that that's the the post show or like the entire show It's switching now. I just looked So Sarah say something seems like it's fine now something something something something Look, I I'm sorry. I didn't mean to derail what was a lovely conversation about dietary sugar I just wanted to make sure that Roger hadn't accidentally like selected somebody so it's fine carry on Let's talk about you say carrot on We've we've we've not a broccoli we've bred our fruits and vegetables to bread bread To have harsh amounts of sugar than they would naturally we have yeah, why did we do anything because we like sugar? Because mankind has a sweet tooth But like when I eat a carrot where there's a carrot I don't know, you know shaved on a salad or whatever. It's like I understand that there is sugar in that But there's nothing sugary about it It's you don't want carrots added to things because Roger is saying can easily be taken out of context right over time We have selected the stuff that tastes better and the stuff that tastes better tends to have higher sugar than the wild Versions of stuff so carrots now that we grow have more sugar in them than wild carrots did before we domesticated No, I didn't say you took it out of context I mean you could take what you said out of context I was basically being like but carrots aren't that sweet Try cooking carrots. They actually come out super sweet That's true Don't even just eat them like dice them and in the little I used to do I used to juice so I know the carrot juice is pretty sweet But it you got rid of all the delicious fiber. Oh, I that's why I don't juice anymore I I do understand that the fibers will slows down the glycemic loop. So it's not the fire is also what gives you a normal bowel movements Yep, thank you. Thank you Roger Here's to everyone eating recommended Well, you know part of the argument is that your GI tract is actually designed to pull nutrients as it passes through well another thing is that food gives you energy What Thank you, Tom you guys are full of trivia today. I don't know about that one Did you know that food we eat it? Wait a minute. Did you know that you can swallow while standing on your head or be standing upside down? Wait a minute What that gravity doesn't work that way Roger and now you're just being silly No, you can all you saliva flies out of your mouth when you go upside down. Everybody knows that come on Try it but try it with a small object and I'm not responsible if you choke You know if you accidentally swallow an apple seed, it'll grow an apple tree in your if I if I die I'm definitely blaming it on you Apple seeds also contain trace amounts of cyanide It's just Fear everything showed up and tunnel at all. You would have to eat a lot of apple seeds. Are we have cranky geeks right now? What is going on? I used to be a regular I know and that's why I mentioned it and I was that if I say we were talking about Adult websites and my glasses all steamed up because It's a great human day in San Francisco But John DeVaric was was having a fun old time pointing out that I was my favorite show back in a day That was my first HD show to watch HD yeah Backward HD really When you would hear that a tree would grow inside your body if you accidentally swell to see it was like very scary like And it's like, okay, I understand that that's just something that parents said But why did why were we told that it's not like kids secretly want to eat all these seeds Was that we they thought we'd choke? Yeah, I think I think there are two motivations one was like safety like you shouldn't be swallowing these seeds It's not good for you give you indigestion. You could choke the other was I want to mess with you Yeah, so When you become a parent, you don't really get any bet like you don't become a better person because you're I Love that honesty It's like, you know, maybe not me, but I have noticed and a number of You know It's kind of like alcohol you become more of the person you're ready are Children are like Boos Roger check They heighten your Your desire to tell people falsehoods They make tall tales of what happened to your uncle George or something So say he just got arrested in this then County law that I think we've gone into some deep Personal territory here. I don't have an uncle George just No, there's I can think of without going into any details lots of Some something that I was told at one point for like, you know, maybe my parents were like You know, just keep let's let's keep this simple and then later on I'm like, wait That's not what you told me when I was seven. I remember this clearly Yeah, well now that you're older here's what happens guess what pizza is not made of goats. We're very sorry I don't know why we ever said that Yeah So strawberry robots forever is what I titled the show Do you guys see the Paul McCartney karaoke carpool karaoke But I know the guy cried, right? I heard something that guy you mean James Corden. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's the guy Yes, and he did he didn't tear up. Yes that other man You two keeps pushing it to me my recommended. It's like you will watch this I've seen it four times or recommend it. I just haven't clicked it yet I'm probably part of the problem because I watched it and it knows that you and I are connected You should watch It was really it's it's a whole show though. It's like 23 minutes long Oh, okay They like they get out of the car and go visit Paul's childhood home Which he hasn't been to since he lived there and it's crazy Hmm in live a pool in live a pool Not a big McCartney fan, I'm not anti-McCartney. I just like McCartney what part of you? Yeah McCartney Not the guy who did the red scare Not a fan of him. Yeah Yeah, I'm a fan of Paul McCartney as a beetle I'm less interested in all of his work since then although it's super prolific and I admire him very much But yeah, I'm like I wouldn't go to a Paul McCartney concert I just don't like having as you're not having a simply wonderful Christmas time. Well, I do like that Had enough of silly love songs, but I look around me and I see it isn't so oh my god Uncle Merritt strikes again. There's a there's a shark and then and then there's me skiing and I have the show is Oh Happy days Wow, I didn't realize that would be so controversial. I I withdraw the silly love I learned about band on the run, I didn't even know that I was Paul McCartney. I learned about that from guitar hero Oh, I always thought it was man on the run I mean not that I heard the song all that often, but I just I thought it was man on the run Because it sounds like I always thought it was two separate songs because it's it really is two different things going on there There's that beginning and then it goes faster So yeah, I'd never knew was Paul for all these years until recently. I was like, oh, okay I didn't know he did a band called wings. Yes. I'm with Linda. I had no idea. Yeah Well kids ask your parents whom Paul McCartney is We're gonna say goodbye to our video folks. We love you my video folks have a pleasant day But we're gonna keep on going for the patrons to talk about John Lennon now