 The question was about the idea that was heard that of me saying something about a person on the path shouldn't have a job. It's really when the mind falls asleep and forgets oneness and heaven and nirvana, it seems to be now existing in a very limited condition. We'll call it the human condition on planet Earth. And so part of the human condition is that you have needs and desires and wants and those needs and wants and a sense of lack are often met and overcome by doing things, working for things, attaining things, achieving things. There could be physical needs, seemingly psychological needs, just a sense of being incomplete and needing to do things to satisfy those senses of lack, even if it's temporary, like eating when you're hungry or drinking when you're thirsty and so on and so forth. So I would say my approach is not so much like a cookie cutter approach that's one thing for everybody. It's very much like Abraham Maslow's pyramid, his hierarchy of needs, that as long as the mind is quite invested in this belief system and lack, then working at a job or having a career or whatever, those are very practical things to meet needs as they're perceived. So that's what I mean by practical spirituality. So in my case, early on back in 1986, when I was tuning into the spirit, I basically had student loans and some of the things we talked about, lack and debt and so forth, and you just can't abdicate on responsibilities, duties, obligations. Even if they were set up by the ego, it's like they still have to be unwound out of them. So for most people on the path, most people are given a slowly evolving curriculum in which the spirit is very, very practical and meets the mind right where it believes it is. If it believes it's a human being on planet Earth with these different wants and needs and so forth and obligations and duties, the spirit's guidance will come through and meet the mind in that way. So in my case, I was guided to a job and a series of jobs that not only helped in paying off the debts that I had, but it also was starting to unwind me from pride, from the sense of being in control and opening me to clearer and clearer guidance. Now the one quote that sometimes gets attributed to me and a question will come in sometime is, can you be a CEO and be enlightened? And my answer is always no. You can't be a CEO and be enlightened. Enlightenment is a state of transcending concepts, just like the Buddha talked about emptying the mind of all the contents of consciousness. And everything that seems to involve planet Earth including jobs and roles and all different kinds of identities are all concepts. So the mind is simply identified with a false set of self concepts that God did not create and God really knows nothing about. And that's where the guilt's coming in. If God created us perfect and we misidentify with a bunch of tiny little roles and concepts that weren't given to us in our creation, that generates guilt and fear and sadness, loneliness, all different kinds of upset. And so progressively as you move along with the spirit and you empty your mind and you empty your mind of all opinions, of all concepts, of everything you think is right and wrong and good and bad, you go beyond morality, you go beyond ethics. You just empty and empty your mind to come to a still point of emptiness. You realize that you are full of light. You have a full experience of what is actually there, of who you really are when you're emptied from all of these pseudo self concepts. So ultimately the question when people ask about, can you be enlightened and be a CEO? A CEO, a chief executive officer of a company, has concerns like debits and credits and profits and quarterly profits and investments and stock market fluctuations and factors. There's a lot that goes on to being a CEO that is really plugged into the world and yet as you move along, you empty your mind more and more and more of these concepts. You realize that you are not sustained by money. You are not sustained by food or all the typical things that were believed in before, but you have a divine providence. You are sustained by the presence of love in your mind. It's taken me about 25 years to really feel the full impact of that divine presence. It really hasn't been a sense of sacrifice for me. I feel like I went through education, I went through business, I went through acting and interacting and believing in the ways of the world. And then it's like been a rinse cycle. The spirit's been rinsing my mind and rinsing my mind for many years. And then you get to a point where everything is taken care of without any kind of sense of effort, efforting or striving or planning. Things just have a gentle ease and flow to them that's in alignment with this spiritual flow. So I don't really have a stance on jobs per se. I think that when you get much, much deeper into authentic spirituality, the trust level goes much higher. The guidance, you know, you're much clearer with the guidance and you outgrow concepts like jobs just as a child, a small child might outgrow playing with little toys. It just comes a day when that little wagon gets left in the front yard. It just is unnecessary at that point. And as you continue on deepening on the spiritual journey, jobs as well as many other things will just kind of fall by the wayside and gradually just fade away until they're no longer necessary. Some people have said to me, they said, don't you feel that you work anymore? And I said, well, you could just look at it both ways. You could say I'm working all the time in a sense of the spiritual connection. It's a spiritual work. Or you could say I'm on vacation all the time, which it does feel like that because there's not the typical constraints of work. There's no beginning time and end time. You don't have to punch a time clock for this kind of work. You have tremendous fringe benefits. You could use the same lingo, everything that seems to go along with the benefits of working in the world. But it's just, it's more, it's an experience of the mind and it's experience of the spirit, not seeing that things come from outside. It feels like it all comes from a wellspring within. So I'm not really into like saying that it has to be this way for everyone and so on and so forth because there's so many steps along the spiritual journey and it's more like you stay with something as long as it's practical and beneficial and as long as it's needed. And then when something is no longer needed, then it's not like you have to rip it away. It just kind of falls away in a very natural way.