 With the quality you are saying that they should be presentable or saleable like within courts I am using in the market, they will be like useful for the society, to the society and they should work for them. Yes, you are right. That's what I mean. See, one thing I tell you, my idea is not only to prepare employees, it goes beyond that. It is I want thinking media people, media persons, those who can respond to the needs of the society. That is what I mean. Getting a job, getting a salary, having a comfortable life is one thing and serving the society is another thing. You know, if you can serve the society within your limitations, because all of us have our own limitations, and if we can think of the society at large, I think that is what media education is supposed to achieve. And all of us will become happy if it can achieve. And merely producing people for the market does not, you know, tell us, okay, this is our aim. No, it is not our aim. We have to go beyond that. This is what I think is the proper proposition. Sir, like you have seen both the worlds, like you have served as a journalist for quite a long time, then you are serving as a professor and as a teacher in this field. Sir, like during your time, what was the media education scenario and what changes you have seen practically? Well, it is very difficult to answer, but one thing I can tell you is the kind of technology we had, we were supposed to overwork. There was no offset machine, hand composition was there, no computers. Today, publications, media operations have become very easy because of technology. Even though media technology has made everything easy, the quality has not improved. In the real sense of the term, you see, when I talk about quality, I talk of the language, felicity, thinking capacity and responding to social needs and also a higher professional standards. Unfortunately, journalism teaching, because of various reasons, I don't blame anybody for this, it is not an acceptable quality, I must confess. There is still quite a lot to be done. I can tell you, for example, research. When I talk about research in mass communication, it is a pathetic situation. The quality does not meet any international standard. In fact, 90% of our doctoral thesis are unacceptable at the global level because they do not have the methodological rigor. Of course, it is the same case with other social sciences also. So when I talk about quality of those days, today many things have become possible. In fact, the infrastructure has also improved to some extent, if not to the fullest extent. But I must at the same time tell you, people have not given thought for quality teaching, which I have already mentioned. You know, delivering monologues, preparing students for examination. See, we have become totally examination oriented, not knowledge oriented. That's where I have differences with everybody in the country. I think I am the one who does not belong to the mainstream media education group. I always have my own path. That makes me a little bit different from others. And whether I am right or wrong, it is for the students to judge. Let them judge. That's where I stop. Thank you, sir. It was a great experience talking to you and I hope not only me, but all the learners will be benefited through this great talk. Thank you, sir, for being here.