 Yeah, we can get it right should ask you how government politics day was. Yeah, it was it was actually really great. I felt bad that we're all in the same tree, but we tried to get the council office, but everything's great. Well, I think it's right, but I don't think a little early is when this is a great end for it. But I met number one on top, and it would be mine. I heard about that part of it. Wait, am I dumb? I might be dumb, I got one. There's a lot of people talking to people, but hopefully interesting. I'm going to submit this, and I'm listening to you, gentlemen. Well, it's like he's a college professor or something. Yeah, I was like, dang, he was first thing. And I was like, okay, here we go. I was probably in there and I was 20 years ago. And I was like, I don't remember this guy being that dynamic, but yeah. He's got some airplay. Yeah, he seems to be about a soap opera. Yeah, he's got a bunch of purts. He has a room, dry. Yeah, snag him, right? One, and the press down cut looks like a soap opera. Well, he's got good soundbites. So it's like he speaks and speaks and soundbites. We can access that. Otherwise, we can kick this off. Okay, everyone, I'd like to call the August 23rd community advisory board meeting to order. And we're going to start with roll call. Hitman. Member Chen. Member Diaz De Leon. Present. Member Holter here. Member Huang. Here. Member Innocentio. Here. Member Long. Long. Lange. Member Rong. Member Rodriguez. Present. Member Sierra. Member, oh, Vice Chair Bardot. Here, and Chair Weeks. Present. Let the records show that all CAB members are present, with the exception of member Chen, member Long, member Rong, and member Sierra. Excellent. All right. Moving right along to item number two, which is public comment. So this is the time when any person may address matters not this on this agenda, but which are within the subject matter of the jurisdiction. Yes, sir. Say something. All right. Come right up, Dwayne. Hello. My name is Dwayne DeWitt from Rosalind. And I got to thinking as I sat here, I've been coming to these meetings for supposed to 30 years. If you folks know, there was a community action team that was formed in the mid 90s. That community action team basically didn't do much, but it kept itself alive. And it's turned into a community advisory board. You folks are doing more than those folks did then. But that in mind, the community that I'm from should be something that gets on your radar. I don't know if you've ever been out there, but Rosalind census district, which runs along the north side of Rosalind, Sebastopol road, the commercial corridor runs down the middle is actually the most disadvantaged, underserved and overburdened community in the entire county. And as the city of Santa Rosa put together, what they've called its downtown specific plan, it made a point of including that Sebastopol road portion from Dutton Avenue to the east. But at the state level, where the Department of Toxic Substance Control runs something called geotracker, which looks into areas that are polluted. They consider the entire Sebastopol road from Olive Street to Stony Point Road to be in downtown Santa Rosa. And that's actually listed in Santa Rosa's housing plan from last year, pointing out that we are the only census district in all of Santa Rosa that is under the geotracker environmental stressors. I bring this up because basically that area doesn't have any real political strength at the bargaining table of the city. We have Jorge in a sensual here now, which is cool as hell. We also got Eddie Alvarez who got elected three years ago. And we have other people on school boards and things like that that are doing things. But the real decision making that goes on in the city of Santa Rosa is from the downtown core. It's from these business owners right around here. These folks got the play. You ever hear this story about two hues in the city of Santa Rosa? Back in the day, we had Hugh Cotting. He was the guy to control a lot of stuff. And then we got Hugh Futrell. And he has a lot of power and a lot of decisions that go on. What I'm here to talk to you about is that we actually need to have you folks do a bit of outreach. We had a guy in the past that you thought might would be doing more Daniel Chappelle. Most folks never met the guy. Never really saw what was going on. And we need to have people from this body, alone or hey and others, to come out there and meet up with folks. Because we've been working on something for almost 30 years also, which we call the Roseland Neighborhood and Pomal Park and Preserve. All right. City staff calls it Roseland Creek Park. So keep it in mind. Pomal Park and Preserve in Roseland. Appreciate your time. Thank you, Dwayne. Appreciate it. I can't stay. I got to go to a veteran's meeting. But I'm sure you'll make good decisions not dispensing the money. All the best to you. Do our best to you. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Do we have anyone on Zoom? Do not believe so, though. No, we do not. All right. Is there any public comment in the community's case? Well, you don't have to. We don't have any. How could I comment? All righty then. With that, we'll close public comment and we'll move to item number three, approval of the minutes. Does anyone have amendments to the minutes as they currently stand? And if not, I see everyone currently searching. We're all searching to see if we were present or not at that meeting. It was a while ago. Not hearing anyone speak up. I'm going to say they are approved as submitted. It's a new thing I learned we can do. And we will move right along to item number four, cap announcements and issues of concern to city residents. Would anyone like to start us off? So last week, I went to a community meeting for friends, the Prince Memorial Greenway. They're going to be having a follow-up meeting on Wednesday, August 31st. They're looking for organizations, residents, nonprofits that are interested participating in the long-term visioning and support of the Prince Memorial Greenway, which I found out at this meeting is actually like 1.2 miles in total from the fish to Pearson Street that they're working on. So, but I want to put it out there to members of the board, anyone who's interested in this little jewel of Santa Rosa that we're trying to come up the long-term support plan for. You can hold on me. You can also reach out to Steve Rabinowitz. He's a former city council member. He's also heading up the volunteer effort with it. So, yeah. Do you also potentially have comments on a certain event we just held at Kinley? Ooh, you only talk about wildfire already. I won't want to talk about wildfire already, but it was bonkers. Yeah, it was very well attended, very well attended. And I think everybody there, the call-out was heard by the residents. So, it was like 400 plus. But I want Lon to talk about it because he was behind the scenes with it, but it was very well attended. Every booth was swamped. There was lots of questions. It definitely played into the press democrat press release and the recent fires in Maui. And the fact that we have extraordinary fires going on up along Pacific Northwest. Yeah, yeah. But it was very well attended. And there was a lot of residents there that were very engaged in wanting information. So, it was really good. Sure, it's fueled interest. Anyone else? I know next month is Streets to Creek or Creek Week. So, I know the water department does a great job advertising, but they've got some fun activities planned. So, look ahead to next month because I think it's before we meet again. Because it'd be great to see you all out there. I just got an email phone with that. It's gonna be fun. Anyone else? Just one thing to say about the community engagement division for the city. They put on the violence prevention partnership, put on a couple of events called the community wellness pop-up events in two locations where there had been recent shootings. I attended those events on behalf of the organization that I'm with. And it was really good to see people engaging who don't normally go out to some of the events that might happen at Courthouse Square, might happen at Finley, might happen in other locations. Because in this case, VPP and other partners went to the apartments, went to the parks right by the residents, until we were able to engage with folks who talked about how they felt about their neighborhoods, how they felt about the city, and had an interact with any government officials before or anybody else that was affiliated with non-profit groups. So that was really great to see VPP taking that step, going to the communities. And I would like to see that happening more often in that way. Awesome. I'd like to hear it. Any other members? I'd like to just bring up an issue that's kind of, is happening in the Sinead project. Are you guys familiar with that project? Don't we all start differently? Okay. So on that property, there is a Sinead Historic Cemetery, and all access has been blocked by the developer to access that cemetery. And about 1,500 residents of Santa Rosa are buried there, 100 of them are of Chinese descent. They were buried between 1878 and 1944. And a couple of weeks ago, the tombstones were all vandalized. Yeah, not just the Chinese, but a lot of the brass plates were vandalized, stolen, whatever. But we have no access to the cemetery because the developer is preventing access. I'm going to go participate in a meeting over there, Friday at 10.30 to see how I can help. But I think that's something we should be aware of that's happening in our community. It's very good to know. Thank you. Anyone else have anything they'd like to share? All right. Well, first, you might notice we have a new person in the room. This is Caitlin. She will be taking over, and she is officially titled the admin secretary. So she will be supporting us going forward. Very excited to have you. Welcome. Hope you enjoy the department. They look like they're pretty fun people, so I think you're in good hands. So that was the first thing. The second thing I wanted to announce is we have a number of moving the park opportunities coming up at Howard. I've gone to those in the past. There are usually a lot of fun. Ratatouille is actually coming up on the 15th of next month, which I don't know if you guys are Ratatouille fans, but it's kind of a fun movie. So I certainly welcome and encourage everyone if you can make it. It's a really good time. And then my favorite time of year is coming up. It's officially October again, which is very exciting. So there'll be a number of events that'll be popping up. I can see that there'll be one at the Finlay Community Center on September 15th from 12 to 130. So come out for some BBQ and beer and we'll all have a good time. So very excited for that. And then an annual event that we've been holding for some time now, but I am not when it officially kicked off and Sheree might actually have the answer to this, but the Merit Awards Ceremony, which actually one of our former members was recipient of, it's well deserved. That will be taking place on September 18th from 7, 8, 30. And this is at the auditorium. Can you specify exactly lawn where that will be? Do you know on top of your head? Yeah. Well, so when you go in, it's to the left. So when you walk through the front door, so you walk into the complex to the, once you walk in those double doors, you're going to cut to the left. And it's that it's the left hand side of that. So like the where the city council chamber is, but or something different. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you said it was just Finlay. Is it not? Oh, is it the Finlay? Do I say Finlay? No, I just says at auditorium. Oh, wait, you know what? I bet it says at it is 2060 West College Avenue. That is Finlay. That is Finlay, isn't it? Oof. Did not know that. That's what I thought. I just, when you sit down, it was like, wait, I'm the auditorium. I do know where that is at Finlay. Now that all makes sense. So I certainly invite you to come out, support some more fellow community members and everything they've been doing in the community. It's usually a really good time as well. So certainly encourage everyone if you're available. Be sure to come out. And I think that might be everything. I don't think I'm missing anything. But if I am, I'm sure Lon will cover it. Does anyone else have anything to share before we move forward? All right. I'm not seeing anything. So we will move on to item five, staff updates. And I will let you take it away, Lon. All right. Thanks, Kyle. I appreciate it. So first back to the member Barnett had talked about wildfire already. So I want Alexa to chime in on this too. So the fire department, Alexa and I really kind of worked to plan this event for the last six, seven months. It's been quite some time. Wildly successful. I was really happy with the outcome, as you've mentioned. You know, in a bigger picture, one of the things as engagement moved over, we started developing strategies and checklist and really coordinating with departments to walk through what an event looks like. We went over there with the fire department and really walked the facility and talked about like what happens when people come in here? What about when they're going there? I really thought through the experience. And so I felt like it was worth the effort at the time. We saw the outcome. I couldn't be any happier with the team. My team was out there, police fire, the emergency operations, and tons of other community members. And it was great whether it was good. Participation was extremely higher than we anticipated. There was like 400 people that showed up at the beginning. Right. So new this year, we gave away go bags that were grant funded through a Cal OES grant for to our fire department. And we had requested RSVPs. So the first 150 people to RSVP and show up to the event would qualify for a free go bag, which was valued at about $65 per unit. It was a go bag for a family of four. When I signed off Thursday evening, we had about 170 RSVPs. When I logged on Saturday morning to shut down everything, we had 389 RSVPs. So really wildly successful. And I think we had easily 400 people physically there. So we, yeah, we realized, yeah, the go bags were a huge draw, but also knew this year we had three seminars that were education based. One was about home hardening. So talking about how event screens and different modifications to your home could make it more resilient to wildfire. We had our emergency manager, Neil, and our fire marshal, Paul Lowenthal, talk about all of our alerting systems and how we would be more prepared in emergency in Santa Rosa and what residents can do to be prepared. And then we had a fire safe landscaping seminar as well to talk about different plants and how to like not have huge trees right up next to your house. So really exciting. I think lots, the seminars themselves were packed. I think we had at least like 50, 60 people in each seminar throughout the day. So successful format this year. We recorded those seminars with the intent to educate and push them out in the community beyond those, realize not everybody on a Saturday can come out. But I think, you know, we worked with the IT team here to get all those reported and we pushing this out on social and newsletter and stuff. So it's great. I'd love to see more things like that. So that's the plan. Next, I wanted to talk about an upcoming town hall. It's a council member Alvarez and Senator and Mayor Rogers to address recent gang violence and community safety. That is going to be Thursday, September 7th, 6 p.m. Rosalind University Prep, 1931 to on a drive number one. So that's where it's located. And really this provides an opportunity for an open forum for community members to express their concerns about community safety and show their ideas how to really solve some of this spike in gang violence and different things in the community. So that's coming up. Also, Fiesta Day in Depencia is going to be September 10th, 1 to 7 p.m. Luther Burbank Center. This event celebrates the Tino Heritage Month with the taste of Latin American in Sonoma County. There'll be food, music, games, activities for the entire family. There's a free event. And what else? It's, yeah, so we're one of the sponsors working with the police department. So they'll be there with Mary Lou in the low-rider car. And finally, South Park, excuse me, Day and Night Festival, September 23rd, 2 to 11 p.m. At Martin Luther King Junior Park, annual community event featuring dancing music community and lots of city booths. The police department, again, will be there and likely zero. So that's my community update. Let me ask a question. Yes. My love. All right. Go ahead. For the Wildfire event, is that expected to be annual? Yes. And what's the co-ed involved? Those are my two questions. So, sorry, what was the second? The co-ed, the community organizations active and disaster. Yes, I believe they were one of the exhibitors at the event. So we met to do a debrief just a few days ago with intent of continually doing this. It's an important piece as we roll into wildfire season to pick this off. And I mean, it's just, it's part of, you know, it's part of the DNA of this community to make sure people are aware of things that have happened in the past and make sure that we are ready in coordinating with the community in a way that like helps connect them in the event of an emergency. So it's super important for the city to do these type of events, as well as ongoing communication throughout the year for people to sign up for emerging notifications in coordination with the county. There's, the co-ed also offers trainings on personal safety and preparedness, related to go bags and what people should be adding to their go bags, also building out stay bags, et cetera. So if you're compiling videos for sort of ongoing use, it might be worth a shot to see if there might be a partnership there as well for... Maybe they can do a presentation next year. Well, that's why I think they do that all over and they do it in English and Spanish, in great, well, members of the co-ed do it. Specifically, no extra community that. It's some other, yeah. No extra community that was there too. Great. Thank you. Any other questions? All right. Seeing none, we will move on to item number six, scheduled items. And speaking of tonight, we are starting with 6.1, the 2023 for a two community improvement grant application selection. For those of you who might not be aware, we have five grants we are considering today we do have a fresh new $35,000. So it was allocated to us by the city council during the budgeting. So we are, once again, flush. So we do have the funding to support all five grants today if we so wish. But this is the opportunity for all of you to now bring up areas of concern, support, et cetera, any comments you might have. It would definitely be appropriate to share those now. So just opening up the floor, does anyone have any initial takes, comments, et cetera? You can do this as a consent item, couldn't you? Can somebody pull one of them? We could. Can you repeat how much we have over the course of time? $35,000. Yeah, so I did try to pitch the council for more. Indeed. That's for the entire fiscal year. That is correct, yes. So if we spend this this year, that's going to, you know. If you approve all of them tonight, then we'd be up with $22,933 still. And that's for the fiscal year. So we could get ready. Three quarters. Yes, yes, yeah. Three more application cycles. Correct, yes. So that is something worth considering. And certainly we could try to encourage people to apply early because there's a greater chance that they will actually be selected because if there's not enough. So the goal of the entire thing in CIG is to run the funds out. Yeah. Get it to zero. And if we get it to zero in record time, that just creates a compelling argument to council that we need more funds. To give us more. Which I pitched them some of them on. It's not successful this year, but we always have next year. All right. One way is that we approve all of the second quarter community improvement grants. Do we have a second? Second. We have a second. We proceed with roll call. Sorry, who was the second? Unless there's any discussion, I think technically we do discussion first. There's no discussion. We can do roll call. Public comment. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Vice chair Barnett. Do we have any public comment? Okay. Nothing on emails unless there's somebody on Zoom. No, there's none. All right. Wonderful. Now we may proceed with roll call. Thank you. Okay. And I'm sorry if I skip over the folks who aren't here. Yes. Fantastic. Thank you. Member Diaz De Leon. Yes. Member Holter. Yes. Member Fong. Yes. Member Ines-Sincio. Yes. Member Rodriguez. Yes. Vice chair Barnett. Yes. Chair Weeks. Yes. And just a final note. I have personally been to the APIC community gathering. It's a great event. I encourage you all to attend. I really enjoyed it last year, and I'm really glad to see them hosting it once again. And all the other ones look great too. And I'm really happy to see minor beats come back. Unfortunately, we weren't able to fund them previously. That was a tough call. Really glad to see they persisted and will now be funded. So, yes, good stuff happening. All right. With that said, we're moving on to 6.2, civic ready test message on May 31st. I'll pick it over to you, Lon, or... Thanks. Sorry, Alexa. Yeah. So just real quick, we were going to talk about this last time on this meeting. So it was something that we had talked at a previous meeting. There was discussion and conversation to come back and discuss this particular event to the cap. So that's why we're here. So I'm going to turn it over to Alexa, who oversaw that particular event in our office in coordination with us and AQE, et cetera. Sure. Thank you, Lon. A little bit of history. So back in November of 2022 was when we officially transitioned away from Nixle as our communications tool to civic ready, which is more closely aligned with our website and some of our other tools. That being said, the SoCo Alert is still our primary alerting mechanism. Civic Ready is a redundancy for SoCo Alert. And each year before fire season, we work with the community to send out a test message on all of our platforms. So this year, we made arrangements to do that test on May 31st at approximately 10 o'clock in the morning, and regrettably and unforeseeably are, so, yeah. Okay. So real quick, let me just jump in on this. We spent a lot of time prepping, planning, running with the county with our AOC police and fire to like do this, this testing. It's a big deal for us to get this right. And so with that, under that guys, we're like super excited. We get to 10, and then I'll send it back over to Alexa. Right. So 10 o'clock, you press the send button, looking at your phone, asking your co-workers are your phones going off. Regrettably, that test message coincided with an outage that our provider didn't even realize had happened. So their SMS provider Twilio evidently had unforeseen delays. So people were experiencing six hour plus delays with our test message. So it was really just really unlucky timing. But we, like I said, have civic ready as a redundancy for other emergency alerting systems. With that said, we successfully sent out a civic ready message about a prescribed burn that was happening on July 24th. That message was delivered to over 47,000 people within 10 minutes. And then as of Monday of this week, we have 47,707 contacts subscribed to the public safety alerts and 18,760 subscribed to the news alerts. So it was a little bit rocky on the 31st, but it's been a very reliable platform moving forward. And anybody who has questions about, well, what are we going to do? How are we going to handle this? We've had, it's not uncommon. We had service interruptions with Nixle. In fact, that was one of the challenges we had. I believe it was the glass fire and the repop and people entering zones that were previously evacuated. Our evacuation or our return home message was delayed by 24 hours with Nixle. So it's not something that's unheard of. However, like I said, we set up redundancies so that we have multiple alerting systems to cover all the bases. And that's really why we have all those layers in the know your alerts matrix. But I'm happy to answer any questions about the test or when we're going to have another test. I know it, well, if I were ready, there were a lot of people asking about when we're going to have another test. So we've typically done it once a year. Because again, it's that delicate balance. We have a lot of voices saying, you're sending us messages all the time. How are we going to know when it's a real emergency? And then we have people on the other side of the camp who are also wanting to make sure, is it still working? Is it still working? Is it still working? I was on the phone with a neighbor who I met at the wildfire ready event for half an hour this morning talking about our alerting system. So it's definitely top of mind for everybody. Any questions? Yes. I think we went, many months ago, we talked about the Spanish version. Yes. Any update on that? Yeah, I wasn't sure if that good news had been shared. But promptly after that meeting, we put the screws to the provider. We said, this is absolutely unacceptable. It's been in our product request queue for months now since we implemented it. And not only did they make it accessible in Spanish, it is now accessible in any language for the signup form. Oh, it's any language. Any language. Right. So it's the Google, it's not a human translation. It's AI, Google Translate. But you can toggle it to your language of choice, which is much better than how it was operating previously. So that has been fixed. So I just wanted to call that out, too, because I know you, for some reason, couldn't attend the last meeting. But we had talked with Alexa at that meeting, went back, and then came to the next meeting to be like, guess what? We were like, shut up! But we did take it very seriously. It was a big issue for us. And we were happy with that. It was very responsive. And we were going to solve that beyond Spanish. It's great. That is great. Yeah, absolutely. And we appreciate feedback like that. That's what helps us make it more usable and user-friendly for the community. So please keep the feedback coming. It's appreciated. Any other questions, comments? One question. I'm sorry if you covered this, but when it gets sent out, how do you know that it's received on the other end? Have you alerted somehow that it made it to 47,000? Is there some kind of check that you do with a few folks to kind of verify that it kept there? So on our administrator dashboard, once a message is sent, I see all the recipients who were on the list that I sent it to. I will then see a timestamp for when they have received it. I can't tell if they opened it necessarily, but I can say a text message was received at this time. Email message was sent at this time. And that's actually a huge bonus because I didn't have that availability or that visibility with Nixle. I just saw like, yes, it was served to 10,000 people. But this way, if there is a concern and a resident doesn't think they got it, they can call me and I can look them up and say, on my end, it says this, and we can troubleshoot it even further. So yes, I have a very granular view of who received what message. That's good to know because that actually leads into my question. How many households are like places of living? Are we connecting with out of the 40 something thousand? That would probably, I would have to hammer in on the data a little bit. So I can export our 47,000 contacts to an Excel sheet. If that person did place an address, then I can sort it by address and see, okay, there's four people with the same address. However, there are a significant number of individuals who didn't feel comfortable sharing their address. So they'll just say Santa Rosa, California. So I wouldn't have an exact accurate number, but I can come back with a loose figure of how many households that means. On that, it was a strategic move for us to try to collect only the data that we absolutely needed to not create a barrier for people that wanted to collect everything. We heard that loud and clear that we were transitioning over. It's like, hey, and so there's certain things we absolutely need, like their email or phone number. But outside of that, we've tried to keep it as loose as possible. Our goal is to extend our reach and to push that message out. And if it takes like having less data to do that, to connect, then it felt like it was an important piece to do. But it does in this case, like if somebody doesn't want to provide that, it does hamper us that certain elements for sure. I actually thought it'd be generally interesting if we could have a sense, because obviously not everyone's going to submit their address, but if we have a sense of where there's higher concentrations of people that are signing up for the alerts, well, then maybe we go to the other areas and we try to do some more concentrated outreach there, just to make sure. I mean, maybe they are signed up, but they didn't provide their address, but it's better safe than sorry. Let's talk about that, Alexa. Definitely. Or at least zip code to be able to see. Yeah, or at least zip code. At some level. Exactly. So then we could break it down, so it's not revealing anything that's super sensitive in terms of where they live, but it gives us a general sense. Right. Okay. Now that's excellent. That's a good idea. Because we do have a 40, what you said was the big number, but it'd be really cool if we could get even higher, because more alerts, more safe. So, yeah. Oh, remember our name. Yeah. So, we now know that the date is broad. So, the impression I get is that the city's initial outreach campaign was city-wide broad. What I'm wondering about is, if we do get some targeting stuff, we could break it down into the council districts. And what I'd like to potentially consider if it came back to CAB as an outreach campaign is taking civic ready and targeting into the areas that we're seeing lower enrollment. So, if we're seeing an example of neighborhoods, perhaps in Oakmont or neighborhoods, perhaps in Roselet, or if we're finding that certain zip codes are not showing up in the database, taking it back on CAB, since we do have at-large and district and considering doing a targeted outreach campaign to those neighborhoods, identifying neighborhood associations, and bringing it to them in a wow, fire-ready-esque kind of thing of like, we want to do preparedness in this neighborhood and having this piece of it. And if there's barriers too, that's the other big question to find out, right? Is that neighborhood predominance of people in there or just not interested in texting? And then the other question I have is, we get it on our phone. You can see from there, is there any other secondary IE? Does it go out? Because I know you can do PSAs to radio stations, but is there any other way to get it out and broadcast it so that when the alert comes out that it can go to news organizations and radio organizations, both in English and in Spanish, as a secondary to folks that may not be looking at their phone, as that may sound, but just another way that people can get an alert that there's a fire, there's a flood, there's a damn, there's a blockage and there's a flood. Is that possible or is that a separate system? No, so we've actually built that into the system. So the police department uses Civic Ready solely for their press release distribution. So the list on, now there are not on the alerts, but we send alerts to news people too, whether they want it or not. But there's quite a few reporters on the news distribution list. And just to note that there is a hand radio network where hand radios will be stationed at specified locations where there may be a resource center or something like that during a disaster. So that's something that we can, I can try to keep you up to date with that. That would be fantastic. That's about that way. That's of course if we lose cell service and Wi-Fi or electricity. Which just happens. Which happens, yes. I guess my other comment in addition, because I think those are, those are perfect ideas. The SoCal, do you have access to the data from SoCal Alerts or SoCo Alerts? Yeah. SoCo Alert is a totally different animal. In fact, that's a cooperative agreement with the county. It's actually the county's product that we have the keys to. I think it's red com, no, not red com. So it's also red. It's some special product. But that falls under the iPods regulations, which are pretty tight. So the people who can send SoCo Alerts are our emergency manager and our assistant, their emergency manager and maybe Paula and Paul, our fire marshal. But just in terms of like where we want to target our outreach, do you think we'd be able to get just aggregate data also from SoCo Alerts to help us determine where to do that targeted outreach because the SoCo Alerts really are the ones, the life-saving alerts, right? So we're ready is like ever done this yet. So, I mean, I'm just thinking in terms of being, doing these data-driven activities, if it's possible to ask for that as well. The county, I mean, and we partner with them a significant amount with so much going on between us and ask, but I actually just, I'm not, I don't know. Yeah, I don't think as long as it's aggregate, it should be. Okay, but who knows. Some element to that, but then I guess the other part is just the privacy piece of like signing up and then not sharing that information. So. Well, well, yeah, not asking for personal identity. No, I think you're not, but like even amongst like the city doesn't provide our data to anybody else for any reasons, but we do coordinate with the county on this. It is a little different. But even proprietary, because like Nixle was a proprietary list for Nixle, like we as can see it. You couldn't even see it. So I don't know if it's, I hope it's not. So let me just reach out and see where this goes. Because I'm just, there's a tech part and other elements that I'm just not aware of to get into that to even see it. Yeah, no, you certainly don't want to see all of it, but just the, asking for a list of like, where in what zip codes are people tending to have access and in what zip codes are they? Yeah, we'll find out. Are there fewer people? Yeah, what's available? It might have, yeah, it might be robust, but like you mentioned, since some other platforms, you couldn't even get in to see if it got there. But one who was signed up, user and account call, if there was an issue, you couldn't see it. You're like, you have to call that. Which is good. Yeah, you shouldn't be able to get in there. Yeah. Well, it is helpful now for us though, and they're having an issue with account. We can literally go into their account and be like, oh, whatever, reset something, send that, help walk them through. It's really helpful for us to have that. But great idea. We'll definitely coordinate. I'll reach out to Paul Goats and let the county and see what we can. Yeah. You can, yeah, there's kind of, you know, we'll see where it goes. If you can trouble, if you can trouble let me know. Yeah, Paul's a great guy. I think he's a good guy. Yeah, no, I think this is a really great plan. And I think it'd be, or I'd be more than willing if we're able to bring this to fruition to do some walkings and late drops, go to door to door to whatever areas we need to. So yeah, keep us surprised. Does anyone else have any questions, comments? If none, then we will move right along. Thank you both for that. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah, thanks. With that, we will move to item 6.3. This is the City of Santa Rosa Town Hall Framework and I will take it back to you, Lon. Thanks, Cal. So one of the parts for CAB and just in general working as city organizations or local government is like town hall type meetings. I think for me, one of the parts that I'm doing is the director of this department is trying to get organized. Spent the first six months of me being here working with the team to get organized in our ERC in the event that something happens we walk in and create a whole and move folders over that are already stuffed with information based on individual events and stuff that's happening. So as a continuation of the strategy of what we're trying to do and to be more efficient, I created this town hall framework to help not just the city staff but anybody that we're working with to... Oh, thanks. That's great. Thank you. To have this to where it really is specific as to what we need to be successful. So the very first thing is the purpose and the goals of the meeting. Many years it's like, let's do a town hall for a town hall. And it's like, well, there needs to be a draw. What is the topic? What's like, how can we make it relevant? We need that to go out to the community and actually promote that. So like to me, that's the very first thing. My first question anytime somebody wants a meeting or something is what's the purpose? What are we trying to accomplish? So that's the first thing. Second, identifying the target audience is to like, okay, so we're going to do this. Where are we going to do it? What are we trying to accomplish? Again, that ties into this. Date, location, time, also important. Map out an agenda for that particular meeting as to like what's going first. Is there topics, speakers? What's happening in there? For our standpoint, advertising the actual event. So for us, it's great if we have six weeks or longer to promote it. But nonetheless, we push it in all of our local stuff and depending on what is going on in different ways to get the word out. Speakers, panelists again, kind of comes back to the organization but really thinking through visualizing what that event looks like and what we're trying to accomplish. Providing accommodations, depending on again what the topic is and who the audience facilitating the meeting. I think that's something important that we really talk about like is again visualizing that meeting who's leading it? Is there direction? Like we want to make sure things are moving in the right based on the meeting and then just doing a follow-up of the attendees. If we're going to ask people for feedback, we want to then come back out and provide opportunities to get their information. So if we're asking for something, feedback, participation, engagement, we want to follow up with them. Otherwise, we're like, hey, we're asking the peering of your something and then we just take that. We're like, great, thanks. So I think that's important for our team to continually ask that. If we're going to ask for feedback, we want to share as to like how we use that feedback. As an example, when we heard from a member of our RIAs on something, we took that and we're like, oh, we're on it. Like we're going to solve that problem and then highlight it. And so this is important for my team. I stress just a lot about like looking at your data using metrics and then following up on something that, so that's important. So this is really a strategy document. It doesn't like it gets applied to particular events, but it's not something that, well, I'll just leave it at this. It's important for us to have this to make sure that we're being efficient and effective with our meetings. And so we're doing things like this on our events of different pieces throughout the year to just make our work that much more effective. So that's all I have on that. Any questions? Looking to the board. And we can just pitch you things whenever is like that the kind of general idea? Yeah, I mean, well, let's bring this up back at the vision piece because I think it's an important piece, but true from a town hall standpoint, whether it's like this group is like facilitator and thinking about like, hey, we want to solve this issue or it's coming from council or somebody in the community. This just provides my team a roadmap for like how to be successful on it versus like, oh, just whatever anybody wants. It's like the topic is the most important piece. I constantly drive that in and try to make it clear as to what we're doing and then really think through, does your audience want to hear this? Do you want to have four people at this event or 500? Like what does that look like? What's really important? Are you engaging? Is this a town hall? Is this a focus group? Like what exactly is this? And so by asking these questions and really thinking about it, at least moving forward, our intent is to just, you know, do a better job at being here and also trying to get more people to attend our meetings. That's wonderful. All right, that sounds good to me. I'm Ronald Thurst. Just a comment about the accommodations piece. I think, I think in general that that's a very good thing to have there. I think also though sometimes going a little bit further, depending on who your target audience is and not just having an interpreter but actually having the event be in the language of the people that you are attending to hear from so that it doesn't feel, so it feels more inclusive in that way and facilitated by someone from their community as well. So I think it's a very helpful, but and also location is very important. If it's often government buildings don't feel welcoming to a lot of people. So if there's ways to, just a couple of comments on, you know, feeling really invited. I mean, these people were in there to get us thinking about moving in the right direction and so it's not common. You can have everything in there. But like just on that, I'm glad you brought that up for the accommodation side. It's like if you're going to a community and you're specifically targeting and that goes back to the audience, it's like then what, how do you accomplish that? So this, like this, much like our events checklist, it really just goes down the list of like everything from like porta-potties to food vendors to accommodations of like, you know, whatever it is, it's just really pre-visualizing the event and how that event looks successful. Like it's been wildly, Lisa, my experience with government is like taking that approach and really walking through it. It helps like when you get to the event and you start planning that out and then you look for issues of like, oh, well, 500 people are going to show up at the same time. We need to rethink this. Like what does that look like? How do you offset people coming all at the same time? If they do come, we need a lot of people. So it's just like, I think this is why it's a framework. It's just to say like, we need to be thinking in this way. And the audience pieces is, the audience and also the accommodations of three and seven, it ties into exactly where what you're saying, absolutely. And I think just a general question about incentives. So if their resources are available, what types of incentives might be considered? People be giving up a part of their busy day. Yeah, so we're doing like on this, so it's a great, I'm glad you brought that up too, because depending on what it is and what you're trying to accomplish, like if we're going to ask somebody, be there three hours from like five to eight, we have to feed people, like there has to be snacks or make some drinks, like, and so, yes, exactly. And so I think it's one of the things that we're just, we're looking at to make sure that as we move forward, we're putting our best foot forward. So absolutely agree. Any other questions, comments? Member Lanez? I don't have any questions. I do have a couple of comments. I would take interpretation and translation out of an accommodation as that should just be a part of language access as a whole and as a practice. And I would say at any time in language access that it can be a multilingual, bicultural, multicultural space than to ensure that there's opportunity for that to be there. And some of my equity work in the county, we've been co-facilitating focus groups where Fijian, Spanish, and a dialect of Spanish is being spoken at the same time so that people aren't being made to feel like they needed to have special accommodations made for them, but that the access to the language they need to participate is the focal point. So I think really modeling that would be a really noble step for the city. And I think accommodations would be recognizing that there needs to always be a plan for that. And lastly, on the bucket of incentive, but also if you're going to be gathering people to get insights and their perspectives, whether it's lived experience or expertise, there should always be something, right, even if it's a $5 Starbucks card to honor people's time and the commitment that they're bringing forward. Part of what I'm learning and work that I'm doing in community is that people feel like they've been extracted by systems and by government and that it's not being turned around and or honored in such a way. There's a meeting that I come to you as a part of the city of Santa Rosa at five o'clock and there's no food. And I literally sit there with my stomach growling the entire time. But I'm being asked to provide information, develop a program and to participate, which is not a good use of my time. So just put and get out there. It does not feel good when people are hungry and sitting in a meeting and asked to contribute. Hint, hint. Actually, we usually bring food and drinks to this meeting. I'm not talking about this meeting. Oh, but we'll start out with this meeting. You can bring snacks next time. But if you feel some motivation, brought some snacks. We'll do better next time. All right. Are there any other questions, comments? All right. Seeing none. I do think I might have neglected to actually open up public comment for 6.2. So if you have any public comment for 6.2 or 6.3, now would be fine. I don't have any honestly more indicating. There is no one in the room. So with that, we will close this item and we will move on to 6.4, the city's general plan update overview. And thanks to the planning team for being so patient. Appreciate you. And with that, maybe feel free to take it away. All right. Thanks so much. Good evening, chair weeks and members of the community advisory board. My name is Amy Lyle. I manage our long range planning team here at the city. And they also have Sherry Nades, our senior planner who's basically managing this general plan at this point. And doing many other great things. So we're here tonight to present the general plan for you and answer any questions and really ask for your help in promoting this work as well. So we're right in the midst of doing a lot of public engagement. And so I'll talk about what we have left in our community engagement work that's being done right now. Caitlin, are you going to advance things for me? Yes. Thank you so much. You can move to the next slide. So I'm going to start with just an overview of what a general plan is and what we've been working on to date. So the general plan is really the constitution for development in the city. And it's really updated only about to every 10 years, 20 years in some jurisdictions. So it's a really unique opportunity to really engage in an effort that's going to set policy for a very long time. And once it's in place, it's very hard to change. So a lot of it is about the built environment. So how we interact with the city, locations of transportation, facilities and neighborhoods and schools and housing and all of those things. But it's a lot more than that as well. Next slide, please. So it also looks at how we interact as a community. So this update includes an environmental justice element, well as a health policy, food systems policies. It looks at education, violence prevention, public services, safety. It's a very comprehensive update. So it is really looking at how we impact people's lives within the city. Next slide, please. And you can move through this slide. Thank you. So the update that we're doing, most of it is defined by state law as far as what elements need to happen. So we have nine required elements in California as to what we have to do. And then we're allowed to do optional elements. So here at the city, our existing general plan has a variety of optional elements. And so we are working at making a concise document that's easy to read, easy to implement with metrics, really able to report out on to use. And so we've done some combining of different elements and issues along with the elements that we want, just as a community that we know are important. Next slide, please. And so just where we're at the process, we've been working on this for a couple years now, most of which has been during the pandemic, unfortunately. So this draft release, even though it looks like we're in the middle, is actually towards the end. So we did start with a community involvement strategy. And that was something we developed in-house here with our communications team and with a consultant team as well. And the council accepted that. So they did weigh in and we asked for input on how we engage. So it was an interesting conversation around town halls because we've really tried to do things differently and try to engage populations that don't normally participate and really making sure that we go to communities instead of asking them to come to us. So I think, you know, launch framework, it has been that is a basic framework and his team is really great about helping us build that out and not just do the standard thing that gets the same 10 people and really trying to do more. So there are a couple of steps that we've done in the process. So I'll talk about that a little bit later. But I will say as part of this, we are doing an environmental impact report. So that's going to be the next step that's going to be released in November. And then both of those documents, the general plan and the environmental impact report will come forward for another round of public input late winter and for a hopeful adoption around that time as well. So spring adoption is what we're hoping for. Next slide, please. So along the way, we do have a lot of work that's already been completed and all of this is on our website or you can come into the office and we'll give you hard copies as well. So that's the community involvement strategy that I mentioned. We also have an existing conditions report. So when you're talking about number of households, I was actually trying to look it up on my phone. There's so much data in that document. It's from 2020. So it's looking at mainly 2019 data, but that's a great place to go if you're really looking to have a deep dive on market studies, economic analysis, demographics, even it incorporates a lot of the previous portrait of Sonoma. We have a new version now. So that's the best thing that we had at that time. And so we use that along with other data sources to really inform the policies that are within the document. We have a briefing book, which is an executive summary of that existing conditions report. The vision statement is something that we developed with the community during the pandemic, but we really wanted to make sure we had some guiding principles as we developed the policy work to make sure that we knew what the community wanted because this is a totally community-driven plan. And then we had an alternatives process and what that really means is land use and circulation scenarios. So I'll walk you through those in the next few slides too. Next slide, Caitlin, please. So this is the vision statement. So this is really a collection of words on our wordflower and then the actual statement itself. So I'm going to go ahead and just read this statement. San Rosa is a diverse, equitable, and sustainable community built on civic engagement that empowers everyone to provide and support equal and affordable opportunities to obtain good housing, education, and jobs to enjoy vibrant cultural events and arts and to live healthy lives in resilient neighborhoods that adapt to social and environmental change. So since our last general plan was adopted in 2009, we've had a lot happen. We've annexed Roseland. We've been through fires. We've been through pandemics, recession. There has been a lot of change. So this new policy document really needs to recognize really the trauma the community has been through and the core decisions that my predecessors and our decision makers have made, 101 through the middle of the city, Amal blocking Railroad Square in downtown, all those things. So we have this existing framework and this really sets the vision of, okay, this is where community wants to go and so how do we make sure that we're staying with this vision as we move forward. Next slide, please. So the next part of that process was to start looking at the framework of how we want our city to grow and change. And so we put three scenarios out to the community and really ask like, what do you think? And one was very much centered on downtown and the major corridors that we know where major shopping centers are, but very city centered. The next one was looking at collection of neighborhoods. So really focusing growth and change in these key areas in the city that are a little bit of an extension beyond just the downtown core. And then the third is housing everywhere. And this is really our existing general plan. We allow housing everywhere. And Cal will tell you we've got a lot of single family. Zoning, we have a lot of sprawl. So we are not down zoning properties that will exist, but how do we, in the framework of climate action and safety, like how do we start moving things in a different direction in the way that we can. Next slide, please. Oh, I thought I had the preferred alternative, but I will say, so what we heard is people wanted a blend. And so what we drafted is a blend of those alternatives. So not housing everywhere, but more downtown and the neighborhood centric. So that's what we've drafted for you all in the community to review. Next slide, please. So just to go back to what is in the general plan, this does include an update to our climate action plan. So right now we have a standalone document. The best practice is telling us that you really need to incorporate that within your growth strategy. It needs to be looked at when it comes to circulation and mode shifts and bike and pedestrian access and housing and all of those things. So our climate action plan will be incorporated. And the other thing to note is that we took the housing element out of this process because we had to move pretty fast on that. Housing element was drafted and adopted earlier this year. So I know some of you have been part of that process as well. That was way too fast and furious. We have to update that plan every eight years. So it's a little bit of a chunk of time whereas this general plan is looking at 2050. So we'll have multiple housing cycles within this. So housing element and safety, both of those get updated more often. All right. Let's go to the next slide. So there's two new maps that are part of the work that we've done. This one is our equity priority areas. So this is the work of Beatrice, who I know a lot of you have worked with. She's our equity and public health planner. And what this is is looking at CalEnviroScreen and a couple of different other mapping areas. So the highest population of low income people and also the highest populations of people of color. So all of those intersect. And this is our equity priority populations and areas. So these are the areas that we know have been disinvested, disenfranchised, that need policy attention to be able to kind of write what's happened, write the wrongs. So you'll see throughout the document that we call out these specific areas as the focal point for a lot of investment. Next slide, please. And then we also have areas of change. So this is somewhat of a new concept. This came out of a lot of our community conversations. And this identifies, I forgot how many, actually 20 neighborhoods, that are going to be ripe for investment or potential housing density. It includes our downtown plan area, which we're honestly not really proposing to touch. Community just voiced what they wanted and we just adopted that in 2020. So that vision is still intact. And this plan really just recognizes that process. But there's other specific plan areas. We have the Hearn community center area on that map as well. And then this also comes through with a lot of different data points, like where are food deserts? Those equity priority areas, where are those neighborhoods? So how do we create a complete neighborhood for these specific areas? Next slide, please. So within the general plan itself, I'm just going to walk through the chapters very briefly. But the first one is land use and economic development. And there's not a huge amount of shifts in the land uses because our existing general plan, as I noted, is a little bit overbuilt. It's planning for more growth than we realized, a lot more growth than we realized. And so we're really trying to work within that existing framework. And then also the economic shifts are, instead of what some cities would be like, I want a big box or a big tax, something, revenue generator. What we hear from the community is that we need more support for micro-entrepreneurial uses. So things that are more neighborhood-centric, neighborhood retail, more opportunities for just residents to be able to start a business, live, work opportunities, things like that. So there's a lot of policies in that framework to be able to kind of support the population we already have, and not so much something bold and big and new that we don't have here in Sonoma County or in Santa Rosa. Next slide, please. So we've combined a few areas here. So circulation, open space, conservation, and greenhouse gas reduction. So these all coalesce because there are so many co-benefits from those different subject areas. But this plan really represents a fundamental shift in how we look at transportation planning and how we prioritize funding. So we've worked very closely with our Public Works team, and this new element will prioritize bike and pedestrian and other modes transit over automobiles. And so it's going to be a game changer. It's going to be really different. And we did just go to the bike and ped board last week, last week. So we've been working closely with that board on an iterative process to make sure that the policies we were creating are in line with what they want to see. So they've been great, and there's a lot of bike and ped organizations that have been really wonderful to work with, which I see your shirt. I'm guessing you're part of one. Thank you very much for all of your work. Oh, is she a part of one? She is the one. So this also includes a lot of our greenhouse gas reduction work. And so these are the climate action actions. We also have an appendix that will serve as our climate action plan in a way. So that's going to include the metrics and the work program that goes into the inner workings of the city. What is our wastewater treatment plant facilities doing? And what kind of savings are we looking to have in certain ways? And what kind of mode shift goals do we have for getting people out of their cars or onto bike lanes, things like that? I think that was all I was going to say on this slide. So last one. Is this one, is number three, where there's an intersection with disaster preparedness? We'll get there. OK. Yeah. Next slide, please. So then we have our urban design, start preservation, art and culture. So we are one of the few cities that currently we have our own element for art and culture. We have Tara Thompson, and she's a great asset to our city and wealth of information. And so we worked with her to basically rewrite those policies so it reflects what we heard from the community as far as the vibrancy that we hope to have here. So this also builds off of some of the policies of the downtown plan of just creating this cultural vibrant center and helping to realize that vision. And then we have a lot of policies related to historic preservation and urban design, much of which was carried forward. We have really strong cultural heritage board, which we know we have a lot of members and former members that are very involved in this work, too. Next slide, please. So I think this is what you're getting to as far as safety. So we have a combo here of climate resilience, safety, public services and facilities. So obviously wildfires up top of mind, but we have a bunch of other disasters as well. So with all of these competing pieces, we wanted to make sure our safety element is really recognizing all of those things. So this is also looking at climate resilience with the equity lens, too, of kind of understanding where our vulnerabilities are as a community and where that extra support needs to be. So when it comes to safety, some of the major moves that we have in this plan, which we've been working with the fire department on, are things like managed retreat. So looking at concepts that are usually employed for sea level rise or flooding, but we're looking at it for fire. So the Oakmont Board of Directors, Board of Something, their home association are actually interested in looking at that. So we've written out a pilot program to work with Oakmont on doing some kind of managed retreat opportunity there. We've also identified a policy to reduce or not increase densities within the wildland urban interface. So we are looking for feedback on all of these things. That one will definitely be a controversial one. So there's just a lot of different things that we're throwing out to the community and seeing like, would this resonate? Is this going to get to the goal of what we've been hearing about what everyone needs and is looking for? And some of these things haven't been done before. So we'll be hopefully kind of leading the way for other jurisdictions as well. The reason I was asking about the intersection for width number three is because recently there's been some conversation amongst disaster preparedness folks around transportation in sort of the managed retreat process. And from our understanding, there's a gap not just citywide but countywide in terms of available transportation for, for example, people who are experiencing homelessness along creek beds, et cetera, that kind of thing. And there's not, so I'm just, I can definitely dig into this more myself, but just curious if that's addressed. Yeah, I think we addressed that at a high level because this is really kind of overarching, but we worked a lot with our emergency operations team to make sure that this worked for them and that also the more strategic things that happen on the ground are in their emergency operations plans because those are supposed to be kind of real time within the season. What can we do when? So I think this hopefully will set up a lot of those activities and provide guidance. For instance, like language needs during emergencies and just cultural sensitivity and like things like that. So, but take a look and tell us what you think for sure. Next slide. I'm almost done. And then, so this is our health equity and environmental justice element. So this is creating a lot of new policy around environmental justice, which is a new requirement under state law, but there's honestly not a lot of jurisdictions that have actually written this element yet. And then also public health. So working with our county partners and a lot of this work was actually funded through Kaiser Preventing Day and really looking at portrait of Sonoma and our metrics locally and like what do we need to do? So there's some pretty bold policies in here that we're kind of waiting to see what the community thinks. You know, a lot of things around like drive-thrus and fast food and access to healthy foods and a lot of carrot and stick approaches that we're hoping creates enough controversy that people engage in the process because we are very curious. Like, is this... You're getting rid of in and out because... Believe me, when we bring this up even with just our planning team, it gets kind of pretty heated. Kick Sonic first. There's like jibberish. Brothers. For the love of God, I would love to just stand out there and be like, you're fat enough. Keep rolling. Like the line they create on Mendocino Avenue is in sufferable. It is like a location is like here. They have one. And it actually is a little better. The one on Hopper, it's always empty. G-H-G, my friends. G-H-G. Sorry, Amy. No problem. Because I mean, really, so when it comes to climate change, there's state thresholds and state goals. But ours, our council adopted a climate emergency resolution that says we need to be climate neutral by 2030, which is like yesterday. That means we just need to get out of our cars today. And so we're still working on the greenhouse gas reduction strategy and we anticipate being able to meet the state goals based on these policies. The carbon neutral by 2030 is quite a stretch and we're kind of gauging the readiness of the community. Like, are you really serious about this? Because it will mean a real shift in how we live and work and play like in Santa Rosa. And there's also just a lot of equity concerns about people not, you know, electric cars aren't affordable. We don't have the network to be able to offer that to people. So there's a lot of complex conversations that need to happen if we're really looking at carbon neutral by 2030. So this, we hope, we'll start that conversation. We are going to be doing climate-specific engagement. Sherry's going to be leading that. And so that work will be working with our Climate Action Subcommittee as well. So I'll let her speak to that if there's questions after this. I think that's a lot. Maybe there's two more slides. There's three. Okay. How do I get involved? Yeah. So you can move to the next slide too. So we have multiple things happening right now. So we do have a public survey that's out. It has a lot of questions about some of those bold policies that I mentioned, but also just has an open-ended spot where you can just say what you think. And that's one for you guys. Let's do it again. Oh, that one. Yeah. Hopefully it's character-limited. I think it is. I bet he can write a good paragraph. I hope so. Yeah, he can write some stuff. He taught me that last night. So we're doing a variety of different things and we've been shifting how we do things every phase of this project, mainly because of the pandemic, but also just because something doesn't work, we're going to try something different. So this round, we have formal public workshops, town halls, and we've done two. We have two more. And we've been hosting them at various locations, thinking about the populations we want to have join us. So we had one at Council on Aging. We had one at Finley. Is that Monday? That was Monday. That was Monday. And then we have one at the Latino Service Providers next week and one at the Rinker Valley Library next week. We also partnered with the Food Systems Alliance and had a great conversation last night with their group around food systems and urban agriculture, which is a new section for policy work that we've never done here at the city. And we're going to Oakmont. We're going to Oakmont. We're going to Oakmont. And we will have a virtual meeting. Yes. And we will be checking that virtual box if people just don't want to come to meetings anymore. So we're not really doing the hybrid approach. We're just we're doing it in person and then we will have that virtual option. And then we're also in pop-ups with the community. So we've been at so many events and different things, trying to promote the workshops, but also just hearing what people have to say and getting people to our survey. And we've been even doing them like food bank distributions and we're the world. Wednesday in America, we've been all over the place. So SRJ is welcome. Yeah. So and then if there's any organizations that want us to come speak, we're game. So we're going to different organizations. If we have time, we're going to do some focus groups too because we like to design those based on what we did in here and who we didn't hear from. And so August and September are really our months to be able to get input on this work. I also want to give one example of what didn't work and what we did instead. Last event said around the alternatives, we had such a hard time getting youth engagement. So we did a whole bunch of work. One, we partnered with Montgomery High and actually were able to help write their curriculum. And so there was seniors in government and history. And so we infiltrated their classes and they did their projects on our general plan. They did like 50 presentations that we went to. It was really incredible. Child labor. Yeah, but we got them. They got to learn more about city government and we got to hear what they thought. And it was really wonderful. So we're hoping to kind of keep that work moving. We also partnered with an art engagement organization, Kips and Creative. And so we did a video with juvenile hall. We had an artist go in and do poetry with them. And they actually, she is a hip hop artist in the Bay Area. Or maybe she's local. I think she's local. And she did a video, a music video and a song, like a rap song. And it's fantastic. So we're going to be launching that this next week, I believe. So I'll make sure to send it so you all can get it on your emails as well. And then we did a coloring book with a local artist. And I wish I had one with me. It is so beautiful. And then our engagement group actually went to schools, primarily in our equity priority communities, and then day camps because it happened to be summer as well. And worked with students to do the coloring book, but it gave us input also. So we're just starting to get the input on what the youth wanted to do. And there was a third approach. And I can't even remember what it is now. Oh, the art installation. The puzzle. Yeah, the art installation. Yeah. And so we had another artist that did an actual art installation. So we're hoping to bring that to city hall or have it move around depending on where we're at. But we've been really trying to adapt and change to just the moment and what we're missing and who we haven't heard from. So you can go to the next slide, please. So that's our website. We have all the information up there. We would love to hear from you all as CAB members, but also if you have organizations that can help us promote, I've seen a lot of it on a lot of your websites already, so our Instagram and various places. So I really appreciate the promotions. And yeah, we're here to answer any questions that you have. All right, looking to the CAB members, are there any questions or concerns or anything you'd like to raise? All questions. I'm ready to send to you. I just maybe a little technical or in the weeds, but you mentioned that land use isn't changing much, except for the community has mentioned a need for micro businesses. And how would that be addressed like a new zoning type or how would that be reflected? Just curious. Yeah, that's a great question. So that can be done in different ways. So some of our policies suggest changes in our zoning code to be able to implement those. Some of them are just creating promotions or programs around what may already exist, but this plan will be in place for a long time. So it's very iterative and it will take a long time to implement. So it will be up to our decision makers on how they prioritize the work within it. So we have it in there, but it will be up to you all on the council and on where does that fall in line with the order of importance and how do we direct staff to work on those programs. So I will say also annually we're required to report out on the implementation of the general plan. So we're going to try that in an easier fashion where we're actually looking at each action and then we'll say like what's happening or nothing's happening or being able to make that very transparent for the community to see and be able to advocate for certain things. Okay and on that, is there any like, I guess the general plan update wouldn't address those very specific granular issues like for example lowering the minor conditional use permit fees and things like that. That would be separate or is that also part of the general plan update? It is not. You could comment in that direction and we can look at adding a policy to provide that direction in the general plan. We also separately have an economic strategic plan underway and I know they're looking for input on that plan. That's Grace of De La Rosa and her team and that could be something that could be a little faster pace that may need to happen if there's certain things under that minor use permit umbrella that you're looking to facilitate or... Just curious. Then my last question is just in terms of talking about the section on like sound right and is there anything for light pollution in like certain neighborhoods or things like that or is that something that's been that we're investigating or... Yeah zoning code. We do have outside outdoor lighting requirements. There's nothing as far as I know specific in the general plan to that but I didn't hear it though. Got it. And then just one more comment. I think way back when I was in high school we did have a presentation from the planning department at L.C. Alley and that was a cool experience so it's great that we're doing in Montgomery and is there any plans of doing that at other high schools? Yes L.C. Alley is actually another one that we identified. So we're waiting on direction to be able to do those things. But we have... We still have one of the teachers at Montgomery High interested they knew someone of one of the teachers at L.C. Alley that was also interested. So we'll see if we're able to do that. All right that would be great actually. All right that was for me. Thank you. Great thank you. And I just wanted to say if I may that one of the things that we are including in the general plan that kind of addresses sort of what you're talking about one of the policies does say that for example farmers markets and food events and that type of thing would be allowed in any commercial zone. Okay that's great. I just have a quick question. So with all this talk about warm housing and you know a lot of it's South side of Santa Rosa, West side of Santa Rosa. Do you guys... Do you ever look at... You think about adding more hospitals, emergency rooms, things like that because everything's all on the east side of town. We had someone bring that up last night too and unfortunately the city is up to vendors and businesses and hospitals to see this as a market they would want to expand. Maybe Royisa would have some information our economic development department about any types of incentives or anything like that yeah that was that was a good start. Well the hospitals are trying to get out of the yard business. Yeah. They don't want to do that. Are you right? Yeah unfortunately it's not something we have any control over. So we have policies to help try influence things but it's very hard to get them to do everything. And actually it was Monday night sorry it wasn't last night it was Monday night. So many meetings. We also are running out of doctors and nurses running out but that is a problem. I tried getting a primary care today and didn't know luck. Very difficult. Member Lange. Yeah my hand was definitely up. So I have a couple I don't know they're questions and comments so work with me here. Do you guys know how my brain works by now? So I'm particularly interested as a member in Asensio brought up micro entrepreneurial spaces. I hope if the team can visit it's called a Haven City Marketplace in Rentor-Cougou-Mungo and the Anaheim Meatpacking District which have revamped old warehouse buildings that were left untouched and have turned them into creative co-op working and social media entrepreneurial space. So there's room and some of those and food courts. So each have a respectable amount of space for folks to like rent a room to like do their Instagram ticky-tocky thing and like I don't know what's called and if you can like rent it for like you know 10 bucks for 25 minutes to film content and it's either individual studio and the lighting's provided so people don't have to come in with equipment but it's already made available to them or small space for dancers who are looking to like really make a a market for themselves which we know we have in our community if you ever go to the top of the mall parking lot it's a whole lot happening up there and I think with food we have a lot of small vendors who don't have the financial capital or access to because of the limitations to funding to be able to put together a cart formally or a food truck or even sheriff's cooking space because we don't have that the vets hall was down for a number of months which impacted a lot of food vendors and only some met the qualifications to cook at us a known state so if there's a shared space for which that could build a culinary opportunity for people it's something that's definitely of interest to me and it brings together this micro network of business owners of all sorts and inspires more folks to take those kitchen passions right like at a baker I used to use all the time but the neighbors called the people on her because she was selling out of her home even though she got permitted to do commercial baking but it was a whole like legal thing right because her neighbors are haters but if she had a space that she could go to like how much more different that would be instead of having to shut down and get a traditional job that she's not equipped to do so that's where my passion in that comes to because I think there would be a lot of opportunity especially as we look at from the last economic forecast I went to both for the county and that came out of the city of Santa Rosa the most vibrant business district right now for entrepreneurs is in Rosalind and so looking at what it looks like to amplify culture history and people which would be in alignment with everything else I also think more more attention and upkeep to those micro economic communities that already exist so ways in which the big kerfuffle around the peanuts crew being upset about an apartment complex coming to their neighborhood but then when you look at the shopping center next door to it could use some micro level support to and both support the businesses that are open and to encourage people to come back into that area so that it's a win-win for everybody in that community especially that's near where I live when we're looking at open space conservation and gas preservation I think it's also going to be important to have conversations in community around folks who've been historically displaced because of the previous decisions of the mall and the 101 that's essentially why we don't have a black community in Santa Rosa because all of those black families were displaced both from South Park and along the corridor to put in for that infrastructure so how do we do something that honors that history and legacy of people who are now fifth generation unsheltered in our community they're around the number four historic design preservation arts and culture I think really important to that last point recognizing that communities that were erased and displaced for some from some of the elements of how we celebrate culture and acknowledge who's here we're one of the largest Fujian populations in the area they had the prime minister from Fiji here and I don't think anybody in this room probably knew about that that's cool right like that's a big deal and a huge sign of honor and respect in their culture and community that like none of us are aware of and they just want to be invited in frankly put and I think when we talk about culture we think about those smaller groups that are often left off of the AAPI representation chain as well when we when we put people on umbrella groups and lastly around these climate and public service I think where I often get flustered in the ways in which our homegrown experts take over these meetings in public comment which we saw last night with the housing element from the county is that people get so weaseled in into the details for which they are not the experts to determine the outcomes I hope that there's a way that you can frame those public workshops in a way that couches that so that folks just frankly say what their concern is instead of trying to diagnose it without the fundamental tools in actual expertise to say whether a line can be drawn here or a road can be placed there because I think that really as a young person who's politically engaged it is one of the things that deters me from staying for 11 hours of discussion but those folks have ample time because they have the privilege and the resources to sit there for hours on end or it's like I have a job and have other stuff to do so if there's a way that that can be framed yes to bring people out but like to help people understand like this is not for you to come up with all of your conspiracy theories of all the fires that have ever happened and worldly disasters and like the what ifs but this is a moment to say I'm concerned because my driveway has dry brush cool thank you bye like bite size and move it out and as someone who's growing up in regions where there are fires and disasters all the time you cannot plan for all panic modes you just can't you just you have to take the feedback in and move it forward and I hope that space can be one where both all of the elements can come forward without it being a commandeered conversation on conspiracies if you have specific things on that I would love to hear I think we look back at a group in San Diego so we went through five years of the October fires right where you couldn't go outside essentially for two months because everything was freaking burning like you just go back to what they did to mitigate those public comments and conversations it would be public record because they had forums same thing in Los Angeles they burn all the time and even when I lived there there was opportunity for folks to share what they needed but it was this is how we're going to conduct this meeting and saying when I lived in Oakland on the hills caught fire and I kept on fire all the time because of the power pulse so like ways in which those teams could probably provide you with some of the tools that they put in place to mitigate some of those conversations from becoming hysteria sessions and really about like what are the root things that concerning that we can control versus like designing to a margin that is something that we don't even understand what happened and that actually altered the comments and the people coming yeah a group of us caravan from Mills up to the hills to go to that meeting because if the hills burn so does college you remember any kind of timeframe that that would have been we'll look back if I don't have anything to start with for mill as it would have been in the spring of 2010 for Oakland when the hillside caught fire off of off of seminary and the 580 that's all I have nothing left to offer after all of that I was taking corpius notes no that was great that was excellent does anyone else have anything they'd like to share comment keep in mind you can confer with them after the fact as well they're happy to take your comments I have but one thing because I know how to reach you what is the do you guys have any sort of social media little fun tidbits things that are already pre-packaged or pre-prepared that we could maybe send out on something such as next door general social media accounts yes we do oh perfect that you've just that are shareable for you all yeah I mean I might augment them but if it's if it's packaged in like 150 words you know already ready to go that would be really helpful for me so I could plug and play and get that information out in you know a more efficient manner that would be great yeah I have to say Jarnesh and housing's been great about pushing out some of our yeah that content that would be great and that's for personal notes like putting the neighborhood etc that would be swell other than that I have nothing to add because again could always talk to you afterwards so with that we will officially open it up for public comment don't have any public comment and since this is only a presentation we will say thank you very much for your time thank you for coming really appreciate it and we will see you all soon I'm sure so with that I'd just like to ask does anyone need to take like a five minute break use the restroom to get water okay well with that we'll just take a quick five and then we'll come right back we're temporarily adjourned quick nap I know my eyes are definitely burning I've been to meeting six my nails are we still recording it live yes I can pause it okay so there's a kitchen down there doing like I can't believe you drank from the sink Santa Rosa said take oh all right with that we are back and we are moving on to item 6.5 and that item is going to the Community Advisory Board vision discussion so it's an opportunity for the Community Advisory Board members to participate in an envisioning process to decide the path forward for the Community Advisory Board so generally speaking what we're trying to do is is obviously COVID kind of threw a wrench in a lot of different things one of it being you know the Community Advisory Board because what are we supposed to do when we're all locked up and so what we're trying to take the opportunity to do now is kind of realign like our our vision for you know the Community Advisory Board in the past we did go through a consultant don't recall their name Civic Makers Civic Makers thank you and we did a lot of work around what our plan and what we wanted to kind of do and how we want to execute it and it just kind of all got blown up so now we are the timing of COVID was terrible no we turned off the boxes oh actually we did no sorry we did it in the neighborhood I'm sorry it didn't blow up we did do some of it but we planned with no execution correct and so this is we did have actually some execution I'll give some either way the the point being is this is an opportunity for us to kind of figure out how we want to proceed maybe make some changes or propose changes to the charter changing the charter can be quite difficult but it is not impossible and if that's a subject or a conversation that we do want to revisit this is the opportunity to kind of kick that off we are obviously not going to cover everything and you know the time that we have left tonight but this is a good opportunity to kind of set the foundation and then you know from there we can build on it over the next couple months and hopefully come 2024 which we will not charter revisions by then but we can have a general idea how we want to kick off 2024 and do it in a strong and really kind of I think robust manner so with that I'm actually going to speak it over to law and to see if you could probably take it a little broader and so on the charter revision piece like I don't like again for my intent of this is to really just look at where we're at from a cab our staffing how we coordinate it's not necessarily to come back and look at the charter and make revisions any charter element would be in coordination with the council city clerk city manager's office I'm looking at just like here's the charter this is what it says we do are we even doing that are we doing it well do we want to continue to do that how can we improve stuff I just want to highlight something that just happened a minute ago and I was talking to Cal about this recently is that Cal reached out to Amy and said hey I know you let's connect can you send me that content I want to share it that's a great example of like what I want to see more of and so I've been talking to Cal about this in Cherie in a bigger picture as to like I'm new to cab I'm walking into this and I'm asking myself is this working the right way am I facilitating with this group am I providing this group with something what is the group providing us what does that communications look like my team just expanded with the community engagement pieces which is now connecting the cab in a different way but also connecting my entire team with this group in a way that's like again are we being most efficient if I could start this committee from scratch right now is it being run the same way would we all agree things are working properly are you happy with cab there's all these pieces that I'm like been thinking about over the last few months but I want to kind of highlight a few pieces and this goes back to what Cal was mentioning Cal and Amy the current structure of cab they're walking into it is like I come to cab and I'm speaking to cab and our teams often like a speakers bureau would meaning I would go out to the Oaks logs and I'd go hey guess what's going on we have a general plan update it's really cool it's fun it's exciting you should participate and that cab you're here you're hearing it you're you're getting that information and then you're leaving whether you share it or not you could go home and share it write up a bunch of stuff on the general plan and everything you've re-heard and maybe you share it maybe you don't but we're not providing tool kits to the cab to be able to reshare that information easily so like what happened tonight was something I was just telling Cal about was that when we come and share info and I'm providing my reports I'm first listening to everybody talk about what you guys have going on and when you say something I'm not going to re-repeat it I know you said call out wildfire ready but if you had already mentioned it I'm not going to re-repeat it but if we're trying to share information about future stuff like tacos at the cop or things like that I want to provide that in a way that's meaningful to this group and also in a way that you could take that and reshare it easily by providing tool kits which is the content and graphics and different elements of that that either gets it and you push it out your own network or you reshare on social things that are easy we need to make it easy to extend our reach which our reach is your reach to the network that's way beyond so when I go again I'm just looking at the cab without a charter change to say like can we do this differently like how do we operate in a way that like is more efficient and like when I look at engaging pieces I'm very connected into wanting to extend the reach of our communications and our efforts to engage more people to understand that what we're doing and then reach out in the community so that's the one for me when I'm looking at things that we can modify without charter piece at all like how can I coordinate with Cal better the second part to that is is instead of us like again just like this going out in the community like you know we're trying to create an event like neighbor fesses example with a couple of other places have done it so let's just go like in that environment there's nothing going on so like oh let's go create one and so they create this environment where people can come out and it's it was successful at the time there's a lot of things like that but as we move back into regular environment like back to the new normal as to like we're out in the public and stuff we as a collective group in the city we are often looking at like how can I go out share my message to a community or a group that is already established they have a neighborhood community they're doing a neighborhood event there's a downtown Tuesday this there's a Wednesday night that I'm going to take my message in my communications and my engagement to those events that already have a following a connection a network a group a culture whatever that looks like I'm more often than anything trying to reinvent the wheel I'm looking at like how can I share and connect with that community it's much more effective I want to just talk real quick about like an example so when I was in Marin water I managed their communications and engagement one of the things I would do it's constantly push out and finally be like water districts great all these different pieces and it was you know like I'm not saying we didn't reach anybody but I was trying to connect with like the community as a whole and so from a speaker's viewer standpoint I was I did the same concept thanks Deena same concept I went out and met with all the local agencies and anybody and everybody that would allow me to come meet with them Elksclodge focus groups library I would literally go and talk about what was the great things that were going on 25,000 acres of awesomeness all the trails they had and like I started getting way more traction people were coming to meetings the feedback was coming it was coming to where people were I'd go to the council meetings talk all the money that we were spending in their community how we're benefiting them and all of a sudden my audience opened up and my reach was expanding in ways that was way beyond my effort of just like put out the best press release or like the coolest social graphic and I'm not knocking those efforts because we do them but when I think about cab and being effective and like trying to connect to the community and also this group is a whole of like wanting to be a part of like the who's who and doing stuff that's fun and being a part out in the community wildfire ready is a good example of things like that where there's events that are going on that we could go and participate and extend our reach so that's one part of it that I think again without even charter piece of like how we can possibly start thinking differently as cab which we can do that so like a good example remember Rodriguez you mentioned something like this is lame and Alexa and I were already already called the vendor were like you're absolutely right and they're like oh we'll put it in our product queue and we were literally like you guys but like we taught after that we were talking and I was like absolutely right this is ridiculous it's unacceptable we need to solve this problem and so for my team I'm looking to hear from you guys in the community of what issues and not just issues but also opportunities like hey it'd be really cool to connect data so Amy's talking about getting data to look at it in a different way and based on that then we could do outreach to those who need it and immediately it's like yes like I agree so so that's that right now we're talking about communication that is coming from my team to this team and this team to my team so the part in this when I look over I was just by the way we're getting a new member which they'll come to the next meeting so when I looked over the orientation packet to update it and just get ready to like do an orientation I was reading over this and I just thought this we're not doing this like a lot of the stuff that I'm going to be like highlighting hey we're going to I'm like we're kind of not doing it so then it made me think about all right I need to talk to Calvin Scherie when we're doing the agenda and we kind of went down this list of the orientation packet and it was like one thing after another we're like I'm not saying we're not doing any of it but like there's a lot of things that we're not kind of perfectly not even say perfectly aligned but it's not aligned with what we're saying to this new member that we're going to do so like that and of itself made me think we really need to rethink what it is the cab is doing align that in a way that is actually beneficial again to both parties but let me just tie in one piece that it's the first thing it says city the city charter requires the cab to advise the city council on and there's like four things public safety issues capital improvement projects improvement plans for development issues and recommending public improvement funds allocator city council again all those pieces like none of those happening because we're not advising council on these pieces I don't go to council and update them I'm not saying I don't talk to council but it's this is definitely not in line and then I started pulling up old charters different things to try to align what is cab responsible for what do we do if there's one thing when you're like telling somebody oh I'm cab it's like what are you doing you're like why go to these meetings and it's like crazy guy along talks a lot with like that you know again looking at this it's not in alignment with that and so one of things in recently and looking at that it's talking with the city manager is trying to expand the a two-way communication with this group and with council so like I do community empowerment updates that currently it's a standing item on the agenda once a month the first Tuesday my plan is to expand that and include cab updates so like I can come back as an example and say doesn't have to call out member Rodriguez but like cab outlined potential issues that were blah blah blah here's what the city's doing about it we met with them worked it out worth of cab did some testing we solved the problem member Holter came and talked about connecting data our team came back and did something about it I'm very interested in hearing issues in the community that like we can immediately solve and some we can't it's not like you can solve all pieces but some it feels very tactile where I'm like wait we can do that so I want to connect those dots with council and cab as well to where it's like I'm taking feedback from this group much like the CRM and we're asking people hey do you find a problem report it it's like you guys are in the community you're hearing what's going on you're riding bikes down the street you're like dealing with housing like it goes on and on issues I'm taking notes I'm listening I'm trying to find those opportunities to make improvements in the city all these different categories that again feel meaningful to this group where you feel like man I'm not part of this team that's making stuff happen and then also then connecting the dots to tell council about like here's this great work cab is doing and here's what we've done this time and by the way cab's gonna be at this upcoming meeting and we're collaborating on this piece and so I think there's the missing piece to this is like connecting council in that way and I think we could make that happen so I have a lot of ideas but again it's like this isn't my vision only like this is a group that like got involved in community engagement and wants to improve and be a part of that group and I think there's a lot of opportunities to improve that my final piece is well actually I'll just leave it at that and turn it back over to you guys to like get your thoughts on this and opinions I also actually this is one I do want to say this is that this is an initial conversation with this group I realize I'm like talking about different pieces I really want we can answer some questions but I want you really to think about what we're talking about and have another item on the agenda or really kind of have some long-term conversations about what that looks like and think about it over the next month before we meet this to like what does this mean like how can I engage in that how does that tool could affect me can I get this from this team what is you know what does that look like when I say revisioning cap which doesn't mean charter change it's just about how can we revisit this what does the CIP look like how can we engage in that in some way is the current way we're doing it the right way do we need more from that less how does that look and again just just if you even just look over the orientation packet as a starting point as to like what CAHB's responsibility is and what you guys are actually doing yeah so with that turn it back to Cal we are over time but if you guys want to provide some initial comments that would probably be helpful just to kind of excuse me a level set and get us to a place where we have like a solid foundation which to kind of move forward next time so if there's any initial comments on what Lon just said now is the opportunity member Rodriguez one of my initial thoughts was I know the previous staff they were really great about just sending out an email like here's what's going on here's your opportunities to engage and it was sort of a compile list of all the events so whether it was bicycle meeting plan meeting well like he was like here's everything going on it could have been like for the month or the couple weeks you know like oh yeah and I could plug it into my calendar and then I could also sort of like share it as well whether then I could go back and look on the city social to share but it was like there in my email box like everything going on versus being trying to like track it down from the city social or going through the city connection newsletter so it was just a nice snapshot summary I would say that was probably the most helpful for me because I don't know if it's intentional but not all things make make it to all the city's platforms so sometimes things that are on Facebook are not on Instagram they don't come through Twitter and then whatever order you want to go through there and I think one of the things I was thinking about as you were sharing that was what would it look like if CAB had a social media platform where we could or as a part of the city's infrastructure and like and updates from CAB or highlights from council just so there's a little bit more like robust content so I think people follow those pages because they're looking for information we don't have like street crime with name repeatability that maybe have our own but I think to like have you know the specified community advisor board logo and that these grant opportunities are up and made available to people I think could make a difference in visibility I agree with you like tackling on engagement that's already happening in the city and like planning ahead and one of the things when I first came on board there would be like these nine things are happening over the next six months who from CAB can be there and I think one of the things to her credit with Chair Graves would be like really staring at everybody of like who's going to sign up and like making sure there was some accountability for all of us to actively engage because that's the whole point of signing up at least I thought that was the purpose and then I think really looking at like what is the accountability to the council members that are appointing us my initial appointee didn't even interview me he was like I'll just appoint you because I'm stepping out of office and I'm told I have to do this and where's the new person asks to meet once a quarter and ask for updates and they're new appointing a newly elected council member so for them it's like what does CAB do how can I support what you do and go from there and I think if there was a little bit more of a two-way street of interest that would probably help some of the help us understand how we could be more effective right and I think the connection back to in talking with Cal and Cherie is that it is providing communication to the council on a frequent basis like monthly to where it's not out of sight on the mind they're hearing about like the work that CAB is doing at a higher level that keeps them informed on what's going on but also just like hey that's what the community is saying here's what CAB is doing and here's the events that we're going to and here's the solutions that we come up with based on some of the problems so I think there's like an element to that that I'm looking to solve but you're absolutely right yeah so yeah I think an example of like one entity that I worked really well on is the planning commission because those planners are very intentional about the decisions they make and what they approve and what they don't approve and it's clear it's very aligned with who appointed them not that I want that level of indoctrination but I think it's important to recognize that there should be some insights into the things that we're working on that are both not just you reporting out but them inquiring within around even the stuff I mean we know our community they love email I'm sure they're emailing them things all the time that could actually be funneled here for us to possibly discuss and invite those community members in too they're not on the tick tocky yeah they're probably not doing tick tocks small but it's probably the crew that does donuts on the top floor maybe that bothers people that was great other members have comments I know one of the things Serena and I mentioned is we see a lot of value in the community excuse me the cab grant actually no anyways the grants we see a lot of value in that and that's why you know one things I would like to do is if we can demonstrate to member bainets point earlier if we can draw this down and demonstrate there's a sizable interest grants there is an opportunity potentially we could make some sort of or solicit the council for additional dollars in future fiscal cycles so that's another you know avenue we can take as well with those grants and this is something that's come up before but I don't know that we had an answer is there an accountability piece for the organizations to prove they actually use the funds and if so where do we showcase that so people all of us with a vested interest know that they used it yes so the grants now are funding forward so they get the check and then they submit receipts and then we do ask for a follow-up report of completion of project or completion of event and that historically went to the community agent coordinator and then it would get reported back to cab as a standing item because the grants now like with the quarterly system it made sense of just bringing them in so that would be a fantastic thing to find out as far as when you're getting receipts and photographs from completed projects from the previous fiscal cycle because of the fact that they're factored into a one-year framework of completion that also helps us as a board because if the project doesn't happen then that's a pool of money that goes potentially you know potentially I mean they got the check so there's always the accounting side of like if they deposit the check but the project and completed that gets a little murky but if there are any that didn't complete funds and I know you know I don't know in between the Danielle to Daniel transition point I don't know where that job task landed but it was what that's how we got the accountability back on cab of you know Daniel on a fairly regular basis would just let us know like of these approved projects these ones are fully funded here's the report out from whatever the event was whatever the project was and then if there was something that was tending she let us know okay it would also be great to amplify these projects on social media case in point you know the APIC event okay that's yeah great to amplify a cab for the band for these projects look what you know came of the money that you know we were able to give to communities folks for these events or to in our projects that I think that'd be really great if we could speak that enough I think it just adds more content to the platform social media platforms that people are I think people don't understand what we do and if we show one way or two ways yeah right and we amplify it we might get even greater interest I in certain we would yeah I think amplifying on the front end especially there's events and things that we want people to come to or volunteers or yeah does anyone else have initial guidance anywhere over time comments in the like bright there will be a little homework this next month just make sure if you have any ideas please share them directly with Lawn and we can hold her the citizenship citizen engagement academy I don't know what that is we can yeah that was out of the initial strategic plan and there was a subcommittee and that was supposed to be a way that cab was going to be that nexus point so that we were going to do an outreach to neighborhood organizations predominantly and giving them a kind of a workshop toolkit so that they could then let the residents in their neighborhood know that hey this is the challenge or this is the problem that you're seeking you know resolution the city on in your neighborhood you would have ambassadors right kind of that have this higher level of elevated knowledge about civic engagement with the city that could then show folks like this is the steps right to get through the process that was the goal of that and it came out of the strategic plan unfortunately I don't know if anybody on this board is was from that subcommittee now I wasn't so yeah I was operations and we got all our stuff done that's why I picked operations because I knew I was like we can do this we can do that and we can do this done so there's not there's not an actual vision statement for cab though right there's a photo there is oh we created there's a mission state I mean it's the civic makers not that I can find online I guess there's a what does cab do and a mission statement yeah we spend a fair amount of time actually crafting it can you send that out again I well there's it's a part of the homework yeah on this there is there is a current mission but I'm sorry I'm sorry we did it with the strategic person yes yes so some thinkers yeah it is it's very convoluted a lot of it is intertwined intertwined but nonetheless I think the the item here is more about like what does cab look like from a standpoint of like the things we're mentioning it's not necessarily to rewrite like when cab is doing the connection to curiosity government to the community is apt I mean it's perfectly aligned that's great it's more of the actions from from our team to this team and like connecting some of those dots and it's a refinement when I look at it it's more of like I'm walking into this team is exactly doing everything that I need to be doing vice versa I mean the member Rodriguez just talked about an email they used to say I would love to get that to see if like you guys like that cadence and the frequency or the amount of info but I like as a part of that to me it was back to this it was like providing you guys the toolkit to say here's all the things that we have going on there it's in simple text the graphics are here you want to share it it's there the information you need it's not too much it's not too little but it's it's it is already formatted we already have all that we're pushing it out in newsletters weekly it's not that complicated for us to put it in some running list to where you can just get it or once a month you get an email here's all your opportunities the events and things like that that we're talking about I think in future meetings which by the way we're filling out and hopefully late October or mid October for the community engagement manager position putting that out which this will be supporting the efforts that are happening but I really want to talk to this group about community events and which ones we're going to focus on hypothetically if there's a hundred which five or ten am I going to go to that have the biggest impact and reach that I can make a big difference and being a part of that group and then which and also that members of this team can also participate and I'm not saying it's five or 10 I don't know what the number is but I want to look at all those opportunities and figure out like look if we can only do one which is the one and if we can do two and like what is the what does that look like for our team to participate that you guys know like I go to this event every year it crashes it's huge there's tons of people that sounds like an event I want to be at that sounds like an event the cab needs to participate and here's why and I and I'm not saying we can't go to smaller ones but it's like something like Cherise like hey I got this bike thing going on I'm the only one that can go but I'm still going I'm going to represent like awesome so I at least for me like if I'm going to focus effort and I have a staff person dedicated to do that I want to know how that that that position could be the most effective within our limited capacity within the amount of events because there's tons of stuff but what are we going to focus on that that aligns with connecting the dots in this way can we have some swag we don't have name tags for public experiences we'll have to work on that it comes out of the digit but that's right we should never do that because for that we can definitely get named we did in the past and just shirts things like that so let's this is where I just want you guys just thinking about like what that looks like I would love to be consistent we just went to welfare ready we had shirts the team like people knew we were a part of that group I think there's definitely opportunities to this is what I'm saying it's it's the vision here it's just like how do we refine this in a way that is you know I mean you guys are on this team you've been some of for many years and you know I'm looking for some guidances to like how to refine stuff I've heard quite a few individual conversations where it's like oh it'd be great if it's like I'm listening so here's what we're gonna do because I want to respect everyone's time it's late I'm personally hungry let's get to the source so if you could do a follow-up email kind of just capturing everything you've just said you know and put it and send it out to us I think that'd be really helpful and kind of framing how we respond to you I mean already you know there's been several good ideas so if you could send that out that would be terrific and I think that would set us up and then obviously do a follow-up you know prior to our next meeting and I think that would set us up for a really robust and good conversation hopefully we'll have more members here as well in addition to our newest member who is just brought on board who is that who is this person I forget um do you have a hand in a mask can you rotate it off Chris favorite it's a new appointment yeah yeah yeah we're vacant so we're placing Leslie Graves yeah okay so it's got things one is there any public comments yes public comments no public comments no public comments so with that what there's one other item seven which is future agenda items can we just make the next meeting a working meeting I was going to say I think that might be the most appropriate just I think we all kind of suck at email right now yeah I suck at email so I'm gonna read it I'm gonna do my best but I'm more and I did want to bring the board at Wildfire ready I had an opportunity to talk to former cap member Jenny Lynn Holmes with Catholic Charities she was actually there for the fire fire foundation but the homeless count report just published today and I was talking with her and historically she came to this board even before she was a member of this board and she would give that report but also questions she would dial down into the data if you wanted to know about what was going on with the homeless count but then just the larger trends and so I did want to bring it to this board if you were interested in having her present about the homeless count report she said she's more than willing not just as a former cad member but that she's more than willing to come to this board so I wanted to put it out to the group that she did offer well I don't see any reason yeah I mean not obviously like is it down it's a future agenda item but I wanted to bring it to the board of do you want to have her come in and really talk about maybe October November but it's a question for you all if you want to have her come and present and talk about it we can talk about that yeah all right again I want to respect everyone's oh good here's September making we talk about end of the year meeting dates yeah oh yes it's always helpful to figure that out thank you for bringing it up that's a good point are you saying when so we'll take I'm off just you well now sometimes we we truncate and you know a bunch of them together or or so we we just need to figure that out so we should just have a discussion about November December yep yeah we typically merge November December into a final November waiting because we all I mean I'm okay anyways before everyone starts chatting just is there any public comment all right with that question to adjourn actually technically speaking all I have to say is the meeting is adjourned all right good sorry to at your role please to your policies we'll write down that you vote on that I was twice things just so right I was like no