 so it's a Tuesday this past weekend starting on Thursday actually the NFL draft the Giants get high grades from a lot of people for their draft and the Giants and Joe Judge nice enough to join us here on the Michael K show coach it's Michael Don and Peter how are you today good guys I don't think we're doing okay I'm wondering this is your first NFL head job and now with all the uncertainty thrown in with what's going on in the world when you'll be able to actually coach hands-on with your players has it taken some of the joy in anticipation away Joe no I think the first the first thing you touch on is obviously there's a lot of things in the world right now going on and that's a bigger picture you know we have to keep our minds on all that being considered you know listen you get to wake up every morning we're gonna do football get to work with the staff now we're getting to work with the players to the virtual program so in any avenue it is we're enjoying doing football Joe when you look back at what you took over do you rely on information the Gettelman and Abrams and the Giants tell you and our how much did you look back at last season to evaluate what you've taken over well first off you have to use information from inside the building people you work with so absolutely had a lot of in-depth discussions and trying to catch us up a little bit on like what's happened here in the past but the biggest thing we did as a staff is we got in here we turn the tape on we watched it collectively we formed our valuation and from there we put together a game plan in terms of how to attack this offseason with free agency the draft and everything else involved how's the virtual camp going again it's never been done before so you're not working off a previous blueprint so how is it going I'll tell you what I'm really pleased with how the players are working and again if there's one generation who would be able to pull off the virtual program it's these players right now you know they're so sad with the tech that you know for them it's just kind of jumping on and doing something they've done already you know for us as coaches we made sure we kind of had an acclimation period for ourselves when they closed the facilities down took us about a week to really you know iron out all the wrinkles and make sure that we're all you know capable of using all the mediums we had present to us I'll tell you what one thing you find out is how resilient the coaching staff are you find out that it's a group of figured-out tape guys I told the coaches a listen at some point let's present tape to the players to the prospects of the draft let's make sure our setups are accordingly these are guys are you know separated by thousands of miles all over the country each one has an independent set up and each one is just figured out made it you know more than functional you know it's impressive seeing how each one set up their deal coach you had said that these players think they know what it's like to be a pro but they don't know yet and they're gonna find out but with everything kind of in hiatus right now when do you think they can learn that lesson I know you concern that it might take longer than usual under different circumstances well look it's our job right now we actually have a rookie mini camp so to say this weekend we get a fresh exposure with the rookies and our job right away is to introduce them to the league and it's not jumping on all X's nose right away but it's it's jumping in terms of what they can expect from our program you know what we're gonna demand how they're gonna fit into the big picture and then it's their job put their head down and work day by day on where I'm asking to look hopefully everything gets back normal for the entire world and we get these players in here at some point this spring if that's not the case then as soon as we get them in training camp but you know we're have constant communication as much as the league allows to the entire process to help along the way you know for our strength staff to be available for them at all points for our nutritionist be available for them at all points to give them guidance and then as far as we're concerned with coaches it's not only so much about just getting introduced to the X's nose but also just the culture and emotionally how they have to handle themselves in national football I don't know how soon that'll be coach Joe judge of the New York Giants is our guest here on the Michael K show you're relatively young man coach I'm just wondering were you tech savvy coming into this or did you have to ramp that up well it's always changing our adapting we use it so much that helped me a little bit we got a great IT staff that when there's something that maybe need to be bridged they do a great job of helping us out I'll say what I'm just good enough to keep up with my kids and figure out what they're doing on their devices so if I can keep up with them I'm probably ahead of the curve with most of coaches in the league all right tell us about your first round pick and what separated him from the other offensive linemen they were on the board well I'll tell you what it was a very deep class very talented class this year when you talk specifically about the offensive linemen I think it stood out to us about Andrew was you know really the pedigree he came from the culture he been brought up in as far as Georgia football the high school pace academy he played in and also what he demonstrated on tape you know one thing about those guys down there is you get to see them play against the top players week in week out so when you watch the top pass rushes coming out with the exception really you know chase young who didn't play against him but when you watch the top pass rushes coming out you have to watch him against him and you get to see how he matched up against the best guys come out who you're evaluating to the defense side of the ball so that stands out to us a good bit his consistency his level play you know his nastiness and finishing blocks those are things that stood out to us there's a lot of things here to improve on and get to work on you know as all rookies do but I'll tell you what of the duration his career at Georgia he was consistent and that's important to us now there was some thought Joe about with the fourth pick you could have gone Isaiah Simmons or you could have gone the offensive line you want the offensive linemen was that a tough call I know you don't want to talk about another team's player but was that a tough call because Simmons seems like such a hybrid sort of player that could play anywhere you know we really made the decision we thought was best for the Giants and you know look you got to run the ball yes not the run you got to cover kicks and he's gonna help us run the ball and protect for the past game as well how did you feel about the rest of your draft I'm very pleased very happy but I think this it's you don't want to get too excited you know just drafting someone you only get excited when they get on the field and start helping you improve and they start helping your team win games and that's really the mark of it you know it's a listen they've all got potential they all have ability it's our job to you know really tap into them and get the most out of it it's their job to show up every day and work you know the true excitement is when you're dealing with guys who are helping you have results and that's right now look we got a room full of vets go through the virtual program that they're on the same page as well and we'll just try to get the most out of it right now so we can start seeing results coach we got I got to be upfront with you since we've talked about it when you weren't on the show we got to ask you now that you're here we we kind of were confused around the whole not saying Daniel Jones's name thing and then this weekend it came out you said it in the conversation with Andrew what was the logic behind you not saying say quants name or Daniel Jones are these obvious starters names you know what it's it's not that I was ever trying to avoid seeing someone's name it's the context of questions are asked I'm a big believer and listen it's tough enough to do their job and right now they have to focus on just learning the system learning a scheme fitting in and improving I'm not trying to create expectations for them to for them to go ahead out there and meet you know they've got enough on the plate already as it is as everyone does on the team you know for me not to say Daniel or say quant has nothing to do with me avoiding you're trying to pretend they're not part of our roster they absolutely are but the reality is when the questions are asked in a context that they want you to put a title or a label on somebody that's a tough thing you know I'm not going to put that in any player ever you know I'm not going to create expectations so I'm not what we demand as an organization already but is there a certain layer to the fact like don't the teammates expect that Daniel Jones is their starting quarterback and like there's a certain level of everyone sort of gets in line knowing that Daniel Jones is the starter for this team listen we have a level of expectation for every player on our team you know it's to me you start getting the predictions for the players that's where it gets you know iffy and listen I'd be less than genuine if I didn't tell you right now again you know our depth charts not set do we expect a lot of Daniel absolutely we absolutely do we're gonna give him time to grow and learn and right now he's in the you know early stages of a new system only to be fair to him to give him time to learn it and develop within it you know for us to go out right now and create a lot of expectations someone who's never been in this system who hasn't been on the field with us yet that we have that chance put our hands on and work with that's not fair to the player and we have to make sure we do right by our players I'm fascinated I read a couple of things I just wanted to run by you if you did indeed say this that when you spoke to the draft picks you said don't bring up Super Bowl when you talked to the media what was behind that why don't you want them to to express high expectations for themselves in the team if in fact you said that it has nothing to do with we want them to accomplish long term it just has to do with right now you talk about these players and when you get drafted you're on top of the mountain and you should be you know you should feel 10-foot tall ball proof it's it's a milestone in your career it's a lifetime milestone you really you know reach a point in your career that you have a chance to compete in the events the thing is when you get over the emotional sometimes you have a tendency to say things you may want a later regret so to go out there and try to make some kind of expectation or set some kind of standard you have to meet the reality is these guys have to have time just to learn how to be professional football players that's what it is and they don't know what it takes yet that's not their fault that's just naturally what it is you know the only advantage they have over the guys are competing against this point is fresh young legs and everyone that are going to compete against has experience in the techniques experience in the schemes and system are they know how to emotionally handle the duration of a season they know how to mentally prepare it's our job as coaches to get these players ready and teach them how to be a pro so they can go out and compete in the level ground it's not about not having someone be excited we're trying to take you know the air out of the balloon it's all about just making sure that hey listen you don't get caught the emotion and don't put something out there as you see players every year do that later on you're going to regret I appreciate the effort as far as the expectations are concerned coach but being somebody that's worked in this market grew up a giant fan when you're the sixth overall pick is a quarterback when you're the second overall pick it's like say Kwam Barkley playing for a franchise that has won four Super Bowls in the biggest city in North America the expectations are going to be there and in my opinion I'd rather than embrace those expectations because you're not going to be able to hide from it and the expectations that are going to be on you I mean you're you're coaching a team that Bill Parcells coached the Tom Coughlin coached you know that that that Owens coached you know there's a there's a history and there's a level of expectation rightly or wrongly that when you play sports in New York that you're just going to have to live with and in my opinion I'd rather prepare them for that expectation because playing in New York and it's not concede it's like reality is different than playing anywhere else when it comes to that when you've got the New York Yankees just a few blocks away with 27 championships the expectations are always going to be through the roof okay the court in question to that I don't disagree with what you're saying there's high expectations in New York City we don't brace that you're right but it's also April 28th and we have to let these guys worry about April 28th and then put together the April 29th and string these days together we're not going to accomplish anything for February all right in April 20 in April 28th we've got to make sure we take care of today and string that together with tomorrow and then eventually that accumulates into the goals you want to have right now the responsibility these guys have is just taking care of day by day and that's the focus we have to have do you feel that the advantage of being a first-time coach usually the league gives you time with your players before everybody else has now been erased Joe because of the delay that's happening with the season and then the and the mini camps no the advantage always goes to whoever most efficient uses their time prepares the best we're all need to play it even playing right now it's our responsibility as a staff to make the most of it and make sure to our players in the right position when I look at the people's evaluation of the draft people I respect everybody said the Giants did a good job but did they really get enough of the edge pass rusher that they've been missing and I saw what Dave said it's not about one guy it's about the whole defense is that essentially your feeling as well coach I think it's always about the entire team but I also think that we have to get people a chance to develop you know just because it you know people expect a certain flash game you know I'd like to remind that they're two of the most effective pass rushers and edge players you know in their generation Jared Allen and Rob Minkiewicz both these guys ended up leaving a long snapper so they had to develop over time eventually get a shot and get a chance so we've identified guys as skill sets you know we're going to compete we're going to try to put them in a right position and we're going to chance to go ahead and have success will some of it come through scheme maybe believe a lot of confidence in all our players ability that we're going to chance to win their matchups more on one so you know at this point in time we have accomplished our players I'm excited to get them on the field we're really excited to get working with them they've been tremendous in the meetings at this point so far but I'm tremendously excited about the guys we have on the roster right now and that's what I'm focused on right now do you see Lemieux as a guard or a center we're going to cross families both he's going to get a healthy dose of work at center and he's also going to work at guard so listen ideally you love that be able to play center and guard and we're going to train you can't kind of dictate where he falls into that but all of our interior guys to a degree are going to cross train center and guard as you have to in the national football league now I read that you had to leave your home in Massachusetts the the internet wasn't quite right so you were an apartment in Jersey and watching it coach I felt sorry for you look you look lonely did you feel lonely no no I'm okay look I'm used to bury myself in basements or offices and closing doors and I'm okay with that you're kind of overly consumed with the process of the draft going on already it's funny I got a lot of text and tweets from college buddies and all with a lot of comments from you know Twitter and all about where I was staying most of them were ridiculously funny but it's a look I went on back it's a corporate apartment we're staying in for the time being you know I'm barely there so as far as the overly decorating of it I wasn't really too concerned about it I was wondering coach if a lot of coaches throughout the NFL are very envious of what Cliff Kingsbury's rocking out there I mean that was some I don't know if you saw but that was unbelievable it's amazing hey I saw he's got a nice set up out there maybe next year right well yeah maybe we'll see we'll see we're doing a virtual game we'll see maybe we'll you know hold the barbecue in the backyard or something hey coach we appreciate we really appreciate you coming on it's really cool to you to do that we wish you the best of luck and we also want you and your family to stay safe and hopefully get on the football field real soon hey yeah same to you guys in yours all appreciate that coach thank you thank you