 Hey, Jim appreciate your time Working on something about Shane and was hoping you could tell me about getting to know him What your impressions have been? And I'm looking for stuff about his sense of humor too as I see him making guys laugh on a regular basis when I'm Well, first of all, I think it's really very intelligent person Has a good understanding of the scheme very close to Mike You know kind of grew up under Mike as a revolved and I Think he does have a good sense of humor, you know, he knows he knows when To lighten it up a little bit in a room And again, I think he's a heck of a football coach with great expectations Moving ahead. Thank you Joe restaurant Hey, Jim. Thanks for doing this. I had a question for you about Mike Vrable Having him as you did, you know early in his NFL career during those days or even when he departed Could you have envisioned? What took place, you know in his playing career and then what has taken place in his coaching career? Well, you know, he was very bright intelligent player When we had him we were you know in Pittsburgh we We drafted him because he was a heck of a football player But we were we were pretty well set at that position. We had, you know, Kevin Green, Greg Lloyd, Jason Gill and Carlos M And so Mike would play multiple positions even on someone third down. We put him inside a defensive tackle He picked things up and smart love football and Obviously when I left He left the following year to go to England got his opportunity. So and I thought they did an outstanding job with them playing it full back and Linebacker and defensive and and tight end, you know, did a lot of different things with him So it shows you his football intelligence and he's carried over to his coaching career You know, great understanding of football from from the offense defense of special teams And he's done a great job up to this point Thanks, I think Jim why I just came in Jim if you have a question I did I appreciate that How you doing coach? How you doing? I'm doing good a couple for you. I guess one I know Jay on said he he said you're a little taller than expected when he met you the other day After seeing you on zoom any early impressions on some of your guys I know you're chopping at the bit to get to work with them How good's it been to be back in front of them face-to-face and any early impression from you? Yeah, you know what they love football both those guys. I mean all those guys in the room They're actually they're fun to coach They take coaching you can be critical When it's time to be critical and I think you know when they do things well we give them the praises and They I love how they take coaching and they listen and try to do what you say and I think they're excellent J. Oh, it's really very intelligent You know he picks things up fast You know all you know that I think you know There's things he needs to work on to get better and he's doing a great job at those working at that You know, there's there's not an unwillingness in that group to not get better. They all want to get better And what did you see when you watch tape on David long from last year and where maybe can he take a next step in your Well, I think everybody needs to improve and you know in all in all round areas but you know David's very instinctive football player with a good nose for the ball and For for a rookie to go in and play a young guy to go and play as much as he did and played well when he's in there You know, we'll see what down the road with what the Toby you can't have enough good football players on your team and he's getting better and better a couple days ago He made a few mistakes to the next day. Correct them. He's been taking off since then so I'm excited to coach those guys especially those three in particular and I see nothing But upside with all Darry bowclair Jim you've been around this league a while coached a lot of defense I'm just curious though as you as you've gotten into the playbook here Is there is there anything that that Dean peas had and was doing that you look at and say? Wow, now there's something I hadn't thought of or considered along the way until now Well, you know what I've been I played tens like 32 coaching so You know kind of I think I've seen most almost everything or I've seen it on film and I Think the big thing we have a lot of volume here and these guys have a great understanding of it and As long as that's the case you could do a lot of different things with this group Is it a bigger playbook than you typically would have had when when you were running defenses then? I Don't know. I don't you know, I don't know if I compare What we did, you know depends on where you say we were at, you know You know some places like noro's we had a great front and we didn't play much We let them we had coverage and let them rush and you know, they had a lot of sex So I think these guys they do a lot because they can do a lot because they're very intelligent group Coach I don't have any in the queue right now, but we've kind of got people bouncing back and forth between the calls so if you could Good can't hang with us for a little bit. We may have people got some back and forth I may jump back in if I can Robbie coach. This is Jim White again I just want to ask you about the pairing of jet you talk about Jay on just how I guess comforting is that or how good As a coach when you've got two backers who are familiar with each other know each other so well on and off the field What will that show up on the field for Jay on and Rashawn? Well, I think the good thing is there they're very close both of them And they want they want they both want to be successful and they don't and both don't want to win a lot of games and They put team first, which is important. They play hard both of them are hard-playing players They and they love the game. So I think I you know just Just my take on it just looking at those two and been around them and they're fun to coach Like I said, they take hard coaching. They It's a good group. It really is it's fun to coach them. I'm gonna ride it where it's not fun coaching guys These guys are fun to coach Paul Karski Jim a little more on Shane if I may you talked about him kind of coming up under under Mike's wing there How big is that as you're a coach coming up to get to be at the right hand of somebody who's made it or is making it Who was that for you and how much does that accelerate the process for a guy? Well, you know, I learned I Learned more from a guy named K. Stevenson Who was the head coach of the bills when I was playing about overall football? offense defense He was kind of the guy I learned Everything from you know, I made that learning defense, you know, there was a that's a combination You know Gunther Cunningham was my coordinator and In Oakland We're in LA at the time, you know, and I've been under some good coaches Bill Kaur was a heck of a football coach You know, so I think you learned a little bit from everybody Jim Moore is the heck of a football coach I learned a lot from him offense defense and special teams So I think you grow as you grow and the people you work for you just learn different things and I Think that's kind of where Mike was Mike learned under some great coaches of bill bill checks a great coach Bill Bryant's a great coach and you know, he's and he sucked it all in and You know, he's taking it from those guys. You got to have something to win over Shane's got to have something to win over Mike at that early stage, right? He's got to see something Yeah, and whatever it was because I wasn't there that you know with them at the time I think that you know Shane's very intelligent like I said and he's a willing learner and You know, he's kind of come up the hard way and he's worked his way up and you know, he's deserved the opportunity that he has Thank you. Uh David Butler Jim Scott Booker said that this is he thinks this is a great time to be a safety in the NFL I'm curious if if you agree with that and how have you seen that position sort of evolve over the last decade or so Well, I'll tell you what I think it's great that these guys are on the field playing right now and they're in enjoying their life right now because Once you get in this building with all those guys Everybody tunes out what's going on on the outside whether it's uh racial social injustice, you know, because this is a nice tight knit family And they enjoy being around each other and they and they would like working and it's hard So it's it's actually it's a it's a way to Kind of have fun is is the you know is what's going on everywhere else outside I'm sorry. I guess I wasn't clear. I was talking about the safety position in particularly, you know, you know the safety position I'm not you know, I don't coach the safeties I think they're very important in the game because you got to do a lot of different things nowadays and the way that people are Throwing the ball, you know people play corners of safeties. I love our two safeties I think they're great football players, you know, they're just being around this short time but watching them on tapas very impressed with them and I think they kind of fit the modern day players or what you need right now Uh terry mcquarron just joined us terry. Did you have a question? Yes, coach Talk a little bit about david long. He's a guy I guess it's going to have to step up and be the third linebacker Among your inside guys this year, I guess with uh west of the woodyard Being out. What are you seeing out of david that you like? Yeah, I just answer one of those questions, but uh same thing. I think david's uh very instinctive Has a good nose for the ball. He understands football You can you can put him in the game and you don't miss a beat We're trying to teach him a number of different positions. He's caught on very well And um, I think he's done a good job up to this point, you know, we put the pads on pretty soon So it'd be fun to watch these guys