 Dr. John McDougal, an icon in the vegan community, hasn't been doing so well lately. To say he went off the rails in his recent conversation with John DeLiard is an understatement. John DeLiard is a holistic medicine practitioner that has similar ideas in the context of a plant-based diet and a vegan diet being what is optimal for health. Dr. McDougal is most well known for his book The Starch Solution and has always advocated a heavily potato, grain, quinoa, just high starch consumption diet with some fruits and vegetables. He worked for 16 years at a 7th day Adventist hospital, a religion known for promoting a vegetarian diet. Let's take a look at old Dr. McDougal back in the day. There is a diet that best supports human health and that diet is centered around starch like rice or potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, taro, with vegetables and fruit. The health trend in America's diet is to replace beef with fish. But consider these foods have nutritional characteristics that are very similar. They're all muscles. Basically we're talking about the muscle of a cow, a pig, a chicken, or a fish. They're high in fat and or high in protein. They're low in fiber, contain no carbohydrate, and they're highly contaminated because they're high on the food chain. And one thing that'll really surprise you is they all are very high in cholesterol. All muscle meat is contaminated because it's high on the food chain. I can't even address this because that would give it some sort of credibility. We know that not all meat is contaminated and that there are many things that aren't high on the food chain. This is typical vegan fear mongering. It's consistent with the appeal to authority that cholesterol is bad, fat is bad, carbohydrates from whole grains and fiber are so good for you. But you know what? Carbohydrates and fiber aren't necessary nutrients. Saturated fat and cholesterol are. Are you telling me now what I'm responding to when I eat is hunger that is exhibited by the fact my stomach isn't full? That's right. The way you satisfy your hunger primarily is by filling up your stomach. And so that's what you want to accomplish at every meal is to fill up your stomach. He also had no understanding that different macronutrients satiate the body in different ways, basing it entirely on food volume. He could have simply said filling your stomach up with water is better and we should starve to death. It doesn't make any sense. When we first talked about doing a segment for Christian Lifestyle magazine on how to eat healthfully in restaurants they asked me which restaurant I'd like to use and when I told them they were really surprised you see this is not the kind of restaurant one normally thinks of when they want to eat a vegetarian diet but just between you and me I like to eat in places like this and let me show you why. I'd like to have baked potatoes no butter no sour cream I want steamed vegetables again hold the butter rice pilaf and I'd like the salad bar now does the soup come with the salad bar? Yes as a matter of fact the pasta bar and soup bar comes with the entire fresh fruit and salad bar. Now wasn't that easy? Did anybody else catch that? Christian Lifestyle magazine religious affiliation really is the only explanation for the ridiculousness that is about to follow. I'd like to have a whopper now you say I can have it my way right? All right I want a veggie whopper and that means no meat okay I'd like to have lettuce tomatoes onion pickles a little bit of ketchup a little bit of mustard and no mayonnaise and I'd also like to have one of your garden salads with your low calorie dressing. I'd like to have a baked potato with broccoli but no cheese and I'd like to have the salad bar with lemon wedges and how about a glass of water. Good times great taste and good health at McDonald's let me show you how. I'd like to have a garden salad but I want you to leave off all the cheese and the egg and I'd also like to have the light vinaigrette dressing. The garden salad contains 112 calories and 107 milligrams of cholesterol by eliminating the eggs and cheese you reduce the calories to less than 50 and you eliminate all the cholesterol. After all your health deserves a break today. What's so funny about this is that the people in the comments are sucking on this thick 10 inch cucumber dick like it's the best tasting thing on the planet. When you have the truth you never have to change your story. He was ahead of his time and still is but hey I'm sure these people are enjoying their nutritious and tasty star space diet. Be sure and read the labels first. I really like spice in my food therefore I stopped by the barbecue sauce and the steak sauce section. You got to make sure there are no oils in these items either. I really like these things and what do I do with all these tasty sauces. I don't put them on steak. No I put them on oil-free potatoes. Oh yeah don't mind me. Just like all the other vegans he has to put a hundred ingredients on his food to choke it down. Cereals with whole grains and no sugars are easy to find in the supermarket but what do you put on them? Well how about some apple juice? I'm serious try it. Whole grains with no sugar and puts apple juice in is I can't make this up guys. I'm honestly confused why the cameraman didn't put his camera down and walk out with the producer on the spot. Is this some sort of satire comedy? I like lots of products and I looked at all five of their crisp bread and found them to be of natural ingredients and all were oil-free except for the one that I expected to be healthiest and that's the fiber plus variety. It has oil. If you want to eat oil-free it just shows you you can't take things for granted. The idea of oil-free comes from Dr. Caldwell Esselstein one of the founding Seventh Day Adventists. So it's safe to say the reason is clear why Dr. McDougal is such a fan of this starch-based diet. Let's see what years of this leads to. Hi I'm Dr. John DeYard and welcome to LifeSpot.com where you prove the ancient medical wisdom of Ayurveda with modern science. I couldn't pinpoint who this guy looked like. Initially I thought it was Hellraiser then I thought it was Two-Phase but I think I finally landed on Ghost Rider. Let me know who you guys think he looks like down below in the comments and guys I know I don't mean to make personal attacks here but the guy is following a plant-based diet that's why he looks like this. It's all fair game. And today we have a very special guest a mentor of mine one of his first books the McDougal plan Dr. John McDougal one of the pioneers in vegetarian vegan diets my mom's a fan my family's a fan I've read his books for decades now I am truly honored to have him as our guest there's very few people on the planet that have been preaching the exact same message for 40 years and Dr. John McDougal is here to share that information with us. Very few people preaching that information for 40 years is the entire USDA dietary guidelines very few people. I'm going to say a couple of sentences many times during this presentation which are will make the discussion unarguable and the sentence and the statement I want to make to you is that all large successful populations of people throughout all verifiable history have consumed the bulk of their calories from starch that's 99.99% of people that have ever lived on this planet have obtained their the bulk of their calories from corn potatoes rice sweet potatoes etc. Examples being the Aztecs and the Mayans which are known as the people of the corn from Central America the Acres who lived on potatoes and quinoa when you think of Asians you think in two billion people with 90% of their diet white rice starch based diets have been the diets of human beings we are starch eaters starchivores starchitarians until you understand this you will fail you will not have control and I'm going to say that again and again and again and you'll never have anybody who could argue with 100 million years of data 100 million years of data okay okay I thought he was joking but he actually wasn't considering the Neolithic Revolution of agriculture started 12,000 years ago and harvesting of certain foods like corn potatoes and rice are only several thousand years old you might want to double check that data buddy boy oh that's not true I have read the research I have read the research we have research on Neanderthals all across Europe that shows that they were starch eaters Neanderthals from 40,000 years ago excuse me I'm sorry no let me there are studies out there there is there are studies that go back to the to the christian bible that show that we are starch eaters Daniel took his men who were sick and visiting another kingdom and he asked the gatekeeper to keep the men on a vegetarian diet Daniel in the bible did 2,600 years ago the first controlled trial on diet that was done at the end of 10 days they declared the men who stayed on the pulses vegetables starches and water were much healthier than the people the men who ate the king's diet so we have had controlled trials for over 2,600 years that have clearly shown that we are star cheaters 90% of our calories have come from starch in almost all populations I don't know why this guy John Dolyard would even post this interview the only explanation is that he is out of touch with reality this is wacko-dacko stuff from the misinterpreting studies to the bible reference McDougal here is just lying and making up references and you know clearly the guy isn't 100% how could he not see this the problem I have when I and the reason I was fired from the vegan conference in Berkeley California in 2017 I want you to notice that half the people who stood up who said they were vegan were overweight or obese they those fat vegans half the population of vegans can't convey their message because of the way they personally appear get real folks we have a world to save and you're not doing it looking sick and fat can you do it looking like a rotting ghoul it's absurd how he's making fun of fat vegans based on his own interests in promoting a plant-based lifestyle there are plenty of insulin resistant people and people with various metabolic issues that would get fat even if they weren't eating vegan junk foods so now to be 100% vegan you do agree that we have to supplement that just level omega threes and no no yes no yes okay which is omega three well you asked me two questions you asked me omega three you asked me b12 the answer is no and yes okay okay on omega trees omega trees are made by plants only only plants can desaturate at the carbon three and carbon six position which are the two essential fats no animal can do that no fish can do that no cow can do that etc so how do you get omega three fats you get them from plants how does the fish get the omega three fat it eats algae or seaweed it cannot make omega three fats why not go to the original source the plants they're loaded with omega three fats but hey mr. mcdougal you are not a fish or a cow maybe if you had some omega three you wouldn't have a plant demon inside of you controlling your thoughts you have a risk of b12 deficiency maybe i'm not sure but i err on the side of offering people b12 supplementation maybe there's a risk of one in a million we got a real nutter here boys mr. mcdougal thinks you can only suffer from b12 issues if you develop some sort of rare disease as a result yeah no big deal that 70% of vegans brains are rotting away due to lack of vitamin b12 some of the longevity research does point to that if you two servings of fish per week and a 90% whole food non-processed plant-based that you're going to be right in the in in that place of getting your omega threes and getting your b12 we just talked about the omega threes we just talked about b12 don't bring that up again that's stupid you agree that that a 10 percent animal animal based diet would be a healthy diet well it would be as good as a 10 percent uh m&m diet or babe ruth bar diet or uh pops a political diet another and wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute another word another word uh chocolate candy is 50 fat a good lean steak is 50 fat right so they're basically the same they are treats intended for special occasions like halloween and easter and christmas and thanksgiving he doesn't want to acknowledge any ideas outside of his own also saying that m&ms are the same as a steak is confirmation of his complete nut job status don't listen to their words let's see what they look like they look like they're dying all of his arguments against any contradictory research are saying that it's funded by some sort of industry or he attacks the person saying they're fat unhealthy obese yet here we have dr dugall here in his corpse of a halloween costume you and i and i do mean you as an educator have a responsibility to tell the truth without deluding the message just because we happen to have maintained and retained bad habits ourselves or we have some financial interest in doing the wrong thing mr mcdougall how are those 12 best-selling new york times books doing that is a very lovely waterfront house in the background you must teach them the truth and that is the human being is designed as a star cheater with fruits and vegetables and animal foods and free oils are poisons period and how much poison you want to eat it's up to you i don't care i really don't care except for the fact that you are destroying my grandchildren's future that bothers me a lot you mean their trust fund isn't big enough yet from peddling your diet books that cause brain damage and when you when someone like me is not nearly as sophisticated um you know in reading these studies as you are because you've written a lot of them oh dr dugo let me take that flaccid drake can suck on it guys i am losing my mind i can't believe that this guy is just choking down that white plant juice coming out of dr dugo i really don't know what to say here this is this is too much for me we would love to take you in and lock you up and bring what you for a whole 10 days now that he has officially lost his mind i feel like his true inner thoughts are coming out vegans are going to go about this in two ways one group of vegans are going to say hey the guy's not 100 percent uh but his work in the past is great and other people are going to still praise this guy as if his word is gospel and i think that would be a mistake it would discredit the vegan movement but either way i don't think we have to be negative about dr mc dugo here i think what we need to do is be positive steer people away it's unfortunate that it has to manifest itself in this way in this poor man uh the vegan movement will collapse in the future we don't have to personally insult or degrade people to do that the vegan diet is inherently deficient in nutrients it is not sustainable it will make people sick in fertile and in this case a lot of neurocognitive issues are associated with lack of fat and cholesterol in the diet overall guys please take a positive message from this i think the best thing moving forward here is to start a supplement vegan movement if these vegans are so irrational that they will literally take themselves to the grave we have to really push b12 supplements algae supplements we have to make sure these vegans aren't afraid of consuming plant-based fats making sure there's a minimum amount of fats and maybe even oils consumed every day as a minimal bodily functional requirement uh that that's all i really have to say guys uh i mean if they were willing to eat bivalves molest clams whatever that's a whole different story but i think the supplements are a great first step so thank you guys for watching please like subscribe hit that bell icon share the video if you can if you guys would like to support me just check out some of the videos at the end here i'll post a bunch of related stuff such as the blue zones video that i did a couple months back if you guys do want to see the original interview with dr mcdougal or the earlier clips from when mcdougal was a little bit younger all of that stuff is down in the description below you guys enjoy the rest of the weekend