 Everybody welcome to the Sunday stream. Thanks for coming on in especially on on football Sunday Thank you for stopping by so today we got a lot of things to talk about let's just jump right in the first thing we want to talk about is Why the traditional? Institutions and the powers that be got crypto digital assets and Bitcoin so wrong What we can do to change their mind if we really need to at all And why we should prop up this tent to really bring everybody in and then of course We're going to take a look at some of the positives that has been going on in the crypto market And then some of the negatives and to help me do that I bring along my my friend which will be Jerry Hall back again for the Six or seven time in the show Jerry welcome Thanks for having me Rob good to see you man And I think you got a great topic for today's show this ought to be fun No, this is gonna be fun because we get to pick on Jim Kramer not that it's an easy pickings But in all honesty has been one of the most wrong people out there and then before we get going You can find Jerry on Twitter That's where he's prominently Always on I see him tweeting things and you can follow him over there. The link is in the description So let's just let's jump in huh so Jim now we know that Kramer has and it's not just Kramer, right Jerry I mean there's a lot of people that have been pretty negative on Bitcoin and crypto how how many times has has Bitcoin been dead? How many times has people said that's the away It's not gonna never gonna work at least 12 since I've been in the game And I came in the game at the end of 2017 sweet Mary Joseph. That's a long time and Like I mean that the 12 times and this is this is the this is the the thing that gets me It's a very risky asset. We understand that me and Jerry not financial advisors We can't tell you what to do neither of us are your father So you guys do whatever you want to do as far as like investments and things like that But it does get to me sometimes when you've got somebody like a Jim Kramer Who's supposed to be and again on MSNBC or CNBC it is for entertainment as well But it does it it it gets to me that somebody who people listen to for some reason Millions of people that are out there and they and they hear something like this also a Dave Ramsey you think Oh, this is the gospel and this is what it really should be So this was actually 11 10 or 11 months ago and it's the same Recurring theme that we get over and over again. So what I do is I want you to take a listen to this Let me let me bring this up so you can actually hear it because it's important and This is about 30 seconds. Okay. Just take a listen. Oh, no 17 seconds. Excuse me And I think that everybody who owns these various horns. You know, Solana Light coin. I think you're it. I do think you're an idiot Okay, I did not go to college to get stupid these people who own these things should not own They should know No, I went to college not be stupid. He went to college to get in debt. I would not have mentioned college I've got a couple degrees. I guess they're of some effort but Jerry this the kind of thing keeps happening over and over and over again So what do we need to do to change people's mind? Do we need to even change their minds and how do we prop up this tent to allow the maximum amount of people to get in? Well, you know, I think what's gonna happen is it's I think history is gonna repeat itself, right? It doesn't matter what the widget is you can go back and look at cell phones go back and look at the Introduction of the Internet there is always going to be a subsection of our population that's entrenched in a very narrow View of the world and if it doesn't fit into that view of the world then then it doesn't have any credibility Or isn't valid or or whatever, right? So so one of the things that's interesting about this paradigm this this whole crypto paradigm is that we have Old school old guard folks that have went. Oh my goodness There is something different here and that's something that's different here That was never present ever in financial assets in the history of the world was true scarcity Yeah True finite finite night exactly and so I mean you can the closest thing you can look at is real estate, right? this address is single however You can mow down a single story house and put up if your zoning allows a three-story house therefore increasing the asset But you cannot make One satoshi more than one satoshi. I'm sorry. That is what it is You know, I mean so it brings in this paradigm that a lot of people We don't have anything in the history of the world to measure it up against and go. Oh compare and contrast So that's my spin No, it's it's a good spin, but that's just it people don't get it because they don't Like I kind of look at it as as people look at it as just internet nerd money in all honesty And especially like for for the generation and I'll I'll just say it it doesn't matter about your age My channel skews a little bit older 35 to 55 years old, you know, and then of course I've got people who are in their 70s And even 80s on the website asking me questions about well, how do they do this? How do they do that? I just got my ledger. How do I set it all up? It's not about an age thing. I think it's about the ability or the The direction of where you want to actually go do you have the motivation to learn something new? You're just like, you know what forget it. It's just this has always worked for me I'm going to go for this. It's going to be precious metals gold and silver which I own myself It's going to be traditional equities, which I also own myself It's going to be real estate and maybe in a real estate investment trust And that's what I'm going to do and I don't really give I don't give this because it doesn't make any sense However, I think with the different problems that we see around the world Especially with inflation, even the united states across the world And then of course we see the different problems that we have as far as like with People that are putting their their funds into into retirement accounts Are they actually going to be able to to draw those those those funds out? Especially as things start to collapse. We've got and even in America We've got a crisis with with that itself I just think the people in for a rude awakening if they don't diversify just a little bit I think that's that's where I think we should really kind of focus and the only reason I talk about that is because it I always think that I'm explaining things wrong if people don't get it and it's on me It's not their problem. It's a me problem. I think that's one of It's one of the issues I have with explaining things. Jerry, what do you think? Well, I I think you explain things fine But also I think we have to be Like conscious of the fact that the world has been operating under this Under this premise that the dollar is somehow stable and other things bounce around Outside of the sphere of the dollar when it's actually completely 180 degree Inverse right right the dollar denominated assets Are are solely are always going to be based on the value of the dollar And as the dollar diminishes and you talk about this on your show all the time, right? The the devaluation of the dollar due to monetary policy Well, it's not getting any better folks. The government continues to issue more and more debt, which is Needs it is literally introducing more and more dollars into the system Mmm, and this is the problem and and so now we have these assets these finite assets That no longer expand with the currency expansion so what used to be You know a thousand microstoff shares back 40 years ago when the company was started It now has 500,000 shares. So they're they're their asset are increasing In lockstep with the devaluation of the dollar But bitcoin and these other finite assets like your cardon, you know, solana blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Yeah, they don't and so they actually get an inflationary hit from the currency play as opposed to a deflationary From the ever-increasing monetary supply Jerry you say it so well, why don't you come on more often make it makes makes makes my job a hell of a lot easier But I mean that's the paradigm we're facing and and we weren't schooled in any of this None of us really understand the consequences of this This is true. I didn't why they keep doing it. I don't think the government fully understands what they're doing and and if they do then it's downright criminal because It's disgusting It's disgusting, you know, I remember like as as far as inflation I never really understood inflation until I got into crypto digital assets I was just I was the same as the host of impact theory We were in the same boat. He said I thought inflation there was when people said there was a money printer He goes I really thought it was like a money printer And there was a machine and it printed money and it would go into circulation of the banks Because I had no idea that that the banks didn't actually have my money And that it was just zeros and ones on a on a on a table on a computer I was like, yeah So and of course here we are and of course unfortunately, we are cursed with knowledge But I will say this to talk about all these things that you know, we go through. What do you think about this part? And I think this is one of those things that And people in the comments have said this, you know, they should just say just just let the results be the teacher You don't have to do all the teaching and I got to tell you that's a pretty smart way to look at things This one bitcoin fund holdings hit an all-time high as spot ETF Excitement entices crypto investors. Yeah This one was pretty good I didn't know this but bitcoin investment funds hold an all-time high of 863,000 bitcoin It's almost a million bitcoin. That's a big chunk of bits Uh, digital asset fund what six percent that's a lot. That's a oh, I meant I meant four like four percent Yeah It's a big it's a big you know what there's um, just as on the website if you want to look at it Whoops, let me see It's called treasury Bitcoin treasuries bitcoin world wide calm Yeah, buy bitcoin world wide to calm and you can see like where it all is and yeah, that's look at this as far as ETFs And it might lag a little bit eight or 19,000 And that's of course for all the institutions, of course, can Canada beat us because they're way ahead of us As far as by ETFs countries 455 21,000 public 240,000 private 421 That's a you're looking at two four five six seven eight nine It's a lot in a very small amount of hands. That's why like when people talk about a supply shock. I I have to agree with them but This is what was interesting broader crypto funds enjoying an uptick There's 767 million dollars a net inflows over the past six weeks which is the most Since the 2021 bull market and the question I always have was well if it's they're just all these inflows Well, what which ones are they and thankfully that was answered right here The flows by assets and you've got a week flows month-to-date flows and year-to-date flows. Look at this Bitcoin is uh about a billion for year-to-date Now, of course, they were talking about the the six weeks, which is the highest in 2021 But a year-to-date a billion institutional interest essentially in bitcoin, but look at aetherium It's down by institutions negative 77 multi-asset negative and and solana it's bitcoin and solana leading the pack Litecoin, of course people want a short bitcoin have fun bears XRP cardano and some other stuff and even trans down negative 51 Yeah, jay. What do you think man? Do you think that's a that's a good? allocation for all these institutions it seems like there's some some Some people are picking winners man. That's what it comes I think it's important to understand how those numbers are derived So, I mean, you know, I I don't have any concrete evidence But I would assume based on other information I've gathered that a lot of what you saw in aetherium is companies covering costs So companies that acquired a huge ton of aetherium when it was $350, you know, da-da-da-da-da-da They're still building right we've been building the world has been building and because So much of the world in Smart contract land has been built in aetherium aetherium has to get sold By these companies to to be able to fund their endeavors. I know that we With um in hyper cycle don't aren't immune to that we have costs that we have to cover This is in there for in therefore outflows our outflows are a part of that. I mean they just are So we're having to sell aetherium Great segue, which it'll it'll be a two-parter segue We'll say that because all the things we talk about is positive and everybody, you know We all love the the bullishness when rob is bullish because it doesn't happen too often when jerry's bullish, which happens a little bit more But you got to remember something you got you got to remember something that is that this Not everything's gonna make it man. That's just that's just how it is This is from friends over at 10 set which is a launch pad And they put out some data that said more than 3000 cryptocurrencies that listed on coin gecko in 21 have failed three to be specific three thousand three hundred twenty two in 2021 alone failed and yes that does include projects that were rugs that does include projects that just collapse because of mismanagement It includes all the projects and that's a ton of projects And I know like people will say rob one's talking about this one of this one this one Because quite honestly, it's not how much you make it's how much you keep and if you can get in and get out That's great, but i'm not that guy And of course, you know you can take a look at just 2022 year to date We're at the almost a thousand as well And of course 10 sat down here brags a little bit like hey, we're up 300 in the last six weeks But yeah, good for them But jerry, what do you think what do you think here is I would imagine I would imagine based on some information I have about venture capitalism Is that of those three thousand companies probably the average? Seed investments that they got either from family Um the first initial seed investments, etc. We're probably about 250 000 per company So 3 000 times 250 minimum is how much money just vaporized that's how much Market value just got vaporized and and and and that happens and I mean it happened like that for the internet I don't know if you remember how many different pets.coms. They were or you know, etc. Etc People are gonna throw things, you know throw stuff on the wall and see what sticks Well, that's what all that's what all businesses and entrepreneurs do. Let's see what's right Let's go and work it and uh, we break it who cares Yeah, but lucky for us with with your show and folks like you, you know It's it's pretty safe to say that there are a group of assets that are kind of they're here now They're actually doing something so bitcoin's doing something cardano's doing something ethereum's doing something Solano is doing something there are There are projects that are doing something now. Are they household names? Do they have apps that reach a billion people yet? You know, no, they don't so they're not the the google the google blockchain has not emerged yet the however, we may be looking at the yahoo Right, we may see a company coming and get themselves established But then try to just get them they'll be get too thin, right? They'll get too spread out They won't do any one thing really really well. Yeah, there you go Could be yours But yeah, exactly You know what I mean? So that this is gonna be it's gonna be fun to see who emerges and somebody will because the technology is just too Too good for for mankind in so many areas Yeah, so which is which is Which is what everybody's thinking about right now. What's the next big thing because I mean We've got a lot of narratives out there and there's a ton of narratives out there about what could be it now If you go into this is why this is why I like coin gecko You can do this a coin mark cap as well But I like going to coin gecko and just clicking on this little tab right here What says categories and categories you can just take you can just list everything out As far as what you what you what your interests are and what you'd want to invest into so like We talked about this yesterday ftx holdings and why ftt is is is gaining a massive popularity It's because gary genzer says he's open the idea of restarting that of course It's one of his buddies that was listing on the new york stock exchange, but whatever But if you come down here, you got dog theme coins and fts memes And I think me personally like I like gaming Yeah, I see metaverse there. Yeah metaverse gaming We see I mean these gaming tokens like nakamoto and alubi Gala and I mean a whole host thing's just there is popping off because it actually has you know People are actually going to use that but then the other one is is ai and I'm not big in the ai Because I just it's well first of all it scares me but second of all it's uh, it's just unknown to me But I know you guys are big into it. So let's take a look here I think Yeah, that's right in front of my face Artificial intelligence number 32 And these these top ones right here render fetch and singularity I don't know about golem. No, I'll be damned golem is a problem. That project's been around a long time Yeah, a long time. Yeah. Yeah Some of my favorites are right there. Uh fetch ai. I really like a lot. See, um hypercycle comes from the singularity net group of families kind of basically starting with, uh, the ai scientist dr Ben Gortzel is kind of like the lead guy I don't know if you've ever heard of sophia the robot I yeah that freaky looking thing. I know what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's why it scares me That's actually pretty fascinating. Sophia the robot Right. Well Ben Gortzel created singularity net and hypercycle is a network for ai to interact with other ai and All of the one of the things that I can tell you about all of those projects in that ai ben right there They're all commonly together under the auspice of Let's have artificial general intelligence be run by The masses not one of or a couple of monolithic major corporations Right. Well, so okay like this here's my question jerry because like when I type in like I'll type in render, right? render is number 58 Been around a long time singularity number 137 when I do hyper I get it before I just noticed when I do hypercyc We're thousands in the thousands hypc Or hypercycle. Yeah, so this one is even ranked Brent we're new dude. Look at our we have not been around that long. He must be super new Super new. Yeah, did you guys just was this? That's when we released the token all right But the the thing of it is is that here We're building a network where ai can work with other ai So what are the components other than the network needed, right? You need ai modules in a free and open marketplace And so you'll be able to see those kind of things as fetch ai Comes onto the table as singularity net opens their, you know, uh, free marketplace as Bit tensor, etc. Etc. And then you've got these incredible organizations like a cosh and jackal and Golem and um Whatever these are i'm trying to think a singularity dow new new net Yeah, yeah, yeah, um The the crypto version of ai is so important that it's in the hands of the world And not facebook and not amazon and not microsoft And the reason being is because when you interact with the offerings of amazon microsoft Metta etc You're the product Well, of course and the value and the value is actually funneling to the corporations but in in these crypto Networks yeah, you get to be a part of that network So like for instance, i'll just talk about hyper cycle just for a second If you don't mind me asking might be doing this So there are multiple beneficiaries in the hyper cycle world. You can have extra computational power And put that into the network and get compensated for it You can have licenses that actually are the ability to run a module, right? Yeah, boom You can supply liquidity into the marketplace by having hypc tokens that which are One of the currencies in the network, right? We're really currency agnostic. You can use ether. You could use usdc You could use whatever you want to pay for your stuff um But the point is the point is when you are in distributed decentralized networks doing these things All the participants benefit from the value that comes to the network Whether it's from a developer in singapore or a liquidity provider in costa rica or Or a computational equipment provider in portorico It doesn't matter, but you can't play like that with microsoft You can't play like that with with with aws or azul or you know Google cloud or any of these big outfits. You just can't you you are a consumer only Yeah, I got you. Yeah, that's kind of why I got involved. I've just said, okay I don't know who's gonna win ai rob. I really don't and I'd be lying to you if I said the if I did However, I can tell you ai is only gonna grow It's only gonna grow and so having some irons in that fire Would be no different than saying five years ago. I'm gonna get some ethereum. I'm gonna get some cardano I'm gonna get some Maddox I'm gonna get some solano I'm you know, I'm gonna get some layer one protocols because somebody will build an application That a billion people will use and benefit from and if you own the layer one protocol you will Profit from that. I could take it one step further and be a visionary like some people I know and actually become a validator on an l1 protocol and At way, I'm providing a service and I'm getting paid for it good times or bad times So bull market bear market. It doesn't matter if I'm actually participating in the network Making it happen. Yeah, I'm gonna receive some form of income Maybe good or bad depending upon the price of the asset But the point is I'm in there doing it as opposed to just witnessing it happen Sweet look, there's one called. I'm sorry. There's one called not financial advice They they they totally ripped off our show, but it's up 14 for the week That's crazy so Again, this is so if you're looking for like some different plays like again I'm surprised bit tensor is from on there. What is bit tensor? It's uh, polka dots big ai play Let's see I think it's ticker symbol is toa. Maybe toa Ode or toa. Oh, maybe maybe it's toa. Oh There it is. Yeah bit tensor Ah, let's see Max supply 21 million that sounds familiar. That's the total supply 5 million Training volume 3 million fully diluted values air in 28 million. Wow. Look at that. Yeah fully diluted. Let's see what the Wow, look at that one october So again, that's crazy Again, I'm not telling you guys what to do But if you want to be all de jenny, maybe take a look at a y ai and then also Here's the thing If we're looking at ai if you really want to be super degenerate and that's not what I'm saying to do obviously I would personally do this But you can go by market cap And of course You can structure this again. This is a coin gecko. You can structure this by the lowest If you really wanted to and just go, you know what? Let's look at this one 19 million 20 million a bad idea ai that's it. That doesn't sound too good Look at singularity down 57 million number 432 and then just kind of take a look at that or you know, you can Do what you can take a look at hypercycle links in the description and again, of course Me well, I don't own any actually But jerry Does and he loves it. So just take just so everybody's aware We usually don't talk about it unless we own it I'm gonna I need to buy it though, which I guess would be my next question. Where the hell do I get this? Let me see. Well, there's a couple of just there's a couple of exchanges like mexi But uh, it's easy. It's the easiest thing I did was just do My metamask wall and do the swap inside Yeah So and if you're ever if for you at home if you're ever looking for like, where do I buy that you go to coin gecko Instead of the overview You know, which gives you the price action if you click on markets, it'll tell you where to go. So you got I would just use uniswap. I mean right now. I'm sure that eth fees are outrageous, but You know, it is what it is Bitmark mexi and bitmark. I don't use any of those three just uniswap. All right It will make sense. Can I ask your audience a quick question? Ah, sure. Oh go ahead. Is there anybody interested in hypercycle? Just put a yes and put your twitter name and I'll follow you Let's do that And maybe even add a little surprise Maybe a little surprise for you So if you want to just drop your your twitter handle in the comment section Maybe you might jerry might somehow get a hold of you and maybe give away some hypercycle Not saying yeah, we'll do that. I'm gonna say he won't do that. I'm saying he might do it You don't need to say it. I'll tell you I'll actually say it put your twitter handle in the chat I'll follow you We can talk on the thing and I'll send you some hypercycle. How's that? It's a good pretty good deal What At these nuts. Well, that's pretty good Wow, this is going quick Uh-oh Rebecca hangry Uh-oh Okay, now it's going crazy. All right So We'll go from there and then jerry as you're copying all that stuff down. Let me uh, just dump into a little bit of portfolio So every sunday We usually take a look at rob's portfolio what he's been doing and I start this because I wanted to show everybody Like the power of dollar cost averaging versus lump summing and lump summing is pretty good But you know, you got to kind of time it a little bit good I'm not that great at that but I started this whole thing And this is what I I dollar cost average This is what I was dollar cost averaging in september and still pretty much this to this day And some of these I dollar cost average every day like bitcoin and ethereum some kind other ones I dollar cost averaging like once a week like algorand so like that so I'm going to show you the bitcoin ethereum solana cardano dogecoin link madic dot cosmos near arbitraman algorand And I started this on september 1st just to show everybody and the reason why I did that was because september historically speaking is the worst month For crypto and traditional equity markets and you can see across the board It's been read for most of the time and I just assumed it would be read like everybody else We call it rectember and I was wrong Which was actually pretty good because I was I was trying to show people That when you dollar cost average, it's going to suck for a while because you're going to be down And I wanted to show people that to get in their head that it's okay because it's not like you're going to check The price of your house every day or the appreciation of whatever that you have whatever Other big long-term player like land, right? And that's what I kind of feel like like bitcoin and different digital assets are but it went the wrong way It went up and in october I thought it would Dump a little bit but it went up and november so far It's been going up and I will just say this that the last Couple of years if you look at the last time september october november were green was 2015 and 2016 2016 was the halving year 2015 Was the pre halving year and you're going to see right here that it was actually went from it was like Mildly up majorly up and minorly Then minor up then majorly up then minorly and this one so far minor up majorly up I think november who knows where it could be whatever but I mean things are going in Much faster route than I could think of so if we just take a look at the portfolio I'll stop talking Here's where we're at right now if you'd been 10 bucks a day Like nothing that would might kill anybody maybe 10 bucks a week You really were thinking about it because percentage or percentage doesn't matter It might be a little fluctuation Everything's up. That's it. Sol link a dramatic near dot algo bitcoin is actually towards the bottom actually Adam arbitram eath and doge. So go figure Uh, and that's what we have right there. So that's it for that piece and I think we're good now, uh Jerry, what do you think anything to add before even with q&a? Let's just know let's do it. This was uh, this was good. I love I love all the you you've become so Adapt at these tools First I remember back. It was the um aggregator information sites that you used to go to now You've got all these complex modeling things that give you the the math and It's really cool Well, and and the reason is because I steal everything from ben's website This is ben's website on the crypto burst and if if you are looking for to like You know bring it to the next level and just look for data. He's having a sale right now. So Uh, there's 10 percent, uh off the first month links in the description below and here's what the The sales going on for right now. I don't know how long it's gonna last but that's what's happening so Uh, everybody that concludes today for the news and everything else Now if you want to stick around we'll do mean jerry little q&a You can ask any question that you want to we'll answer the best of our abilities and we'll go from there if not Take off. Thanks for stopping by. We do appreciate it. See you on the next one now. Let's get into a little q&a Meme asks what is dot doing? I do own some good question. What is dot doing? Let's see Ah Dot or polka dots. Well, first of all as I recall cardona was Is using polka dot to build uh their I don't know what's on the chain or what's but midnight So Dot itself is up 20 almost 22 for the for the week 6 for the day avalanche is the big winner though 46 for the week 18 and 24 hours. That's pretty big. That's pretty damn big So, yeah, that's what we got for dot. I don't know if there's anything specific about massive Building but that's what I know so far for them Let's see Let's start down here. What do we got? How high can chain link go this cycle? I'm going to give you a price prediction right now Let's see chain link Chain link is 15 bucks right now. Wow up 33% chain link Can go anywhere? Let me go to the max out Holy smokes chain link was 51 bucks. That's one point So I will say that chain link can go anywhere between Uh I guess right now if you want to call it it can go from $15 and 84 cents all the way up to $10,000 Anywhere in between that range. I'm a 60 percent sure That's where it'll be. Sorry. What happened? I don't do uh price predictions because they're just guesstimations and uh, it's just educated guesses look for indicators And uh, if you're looking for indicators, it's like, well, how do I know about that? There's a um, I'll show you There's a link in the description like everything else And uh, there's a video says when and why why and when i'm selling 80 percent of my crypto in 2025 We go over a bunch of indicators that Could potentially tell you when things are topping out or things are getting overheated That's it Oh is cardano leaving the top 10 jerry. What do you think? I hope not I hope not either. That's one of the pillars of my foundation of my of my portfolio. Um Gosh, you know, I think here's the thing time is going to tell if it doesn't matter how good a project is, right? I get do you remember here case in point history lesson Do you remember the battle beta max versus vhs? Yes, I do Beta max was a far superior technology Yes, and it was the it was those big discs, right and and what happened is vhs Did better marketing? They did better marketing and they got People to put content on their substrate and the next thing you know Beta max is this tiny little section in blockbuster and vhs is on every wall Oh, okay. Okay. And so it's not about it's not about the best tech wins a lot of times. It's What gets adopted and used and then it becomes kind of a standard of the industry and the next thing you know Just by pro because they were there Everybody all the new stuff gets built on that foundation because it's become kind of this Industry standard even though it may mean that better tech Right, exactly. It's all about what gets adopted. It's like that will cardano be around. I don't know It's really good tech. I know that Yeah That's true. It's it's like I was compared to like it's that great restaurant on the street from you that you go to Once a week and like this place is awesome There's nobody here But I mean the chef is fantastic the food is great the service is stellar and the price is Reasonable and you go back a month later. It's closed down You're like what the hell and you look over at mcdonald's and there's a line down the street Like what happened adoption? That's what happened. So yeah, this is all speculation. I know people will say put the tech bro sure I mean sure the only thing i'm sure of and i'm pretty sure I think bitcoin will stand to test the time past that i'm i'm no like aida ain't sexy That's kind of sexy Cardano is so damn boring Now it's boring until it takes off and then everybody's like ah cardano is the next big thing It's the same thing with like it's the same thing with with with salana Salana was the worst Performing asset for quite some time after it took that big hit as ftx collapsed and went down the it went from 250 To under nine bucks or around nine dollars And now all of a sudden it it rockets up people like you know what? salana Hey, it is what it is. I always thought it was undervalued. That's why I started to buy it. I'm like well It's undervalued who knows it'll go up May not have worked for me, but sure Well when salana signed that deal with visa Oh, yeah for for for the transactions for bills. I will will it go anywhere. I don't know Will it ever get out of proof of concept? I don't know But there I mean it you know when when the world's largest Payment processing entity Visa network gets behind and puts their name behind your name There might be a little there there to look at to investigate And I don't even like salana A lot of people don't like salana, but I like the price action Yes What about this jerry hypercycle is that are you guys on your own layer? Are you guys built? Yeah, it is it's built on the on a total protocol um It uses an erc 20 token as a currency within the network, but the network is not built on ethereum I see okay. Gotcha chain link for sure Meme says chain link was stuck in a rut if the tech is useful price action short one is not relevant very true I always thought I was like the chain link and I looked at their their partnerships and Of course they're dealings with with Swift and a lot of different companies And I'm like, well, they're gonna need an oracle. So You know you can somebody has to pull that that off chain data somehow And then think about chain. I mean off chain data is although chain link is an erc 20 on ethereum It would it would not take that it wouldn't take much to to replicate it anywhere Yeah, you know what I mean? And so yeah, they're going to need oracles are needed You've got to get you've got to get off chain data to the chain Yeah, nothing wrong with that and let's see Cardano Cardano was a tortoise versus a hare. Oh, that's true. It is slow But you know, it's one of those things like we talked about in the beginning about entrepreneurs How they just throw things at the wall. That's kind of like what I do I'm just like, well, let's see if this works that didn't work Let's see if this works But you know when you do stuff like that and you're dealing with people's money Their life savings and this and we see this happen in like The bridge hacks wormhole and stuff like that and people like to move a little bit too fast before you know Like where's the money? We screwed up We're throwing things at the wall and just didn't work out. Cardano is one of those slow places The thing is though is that is everything going to be here As things move faster. I don't know I hope so Do you have the do you have the ability to input into the chat? I do I don't Would you be so kindness to input at Jerry v. Hall one? People are uh, it's important that they know that some imposter is not trying to get information from them Oh, not only that but so that is Jerry's twitter account also to verify Jerry's twitter account There is a link in the description It says follow Jerry twitter.com Jerry v. Hall one So that is you yeah, thank you. Thank you Yeah, cool All right So everybody let's see if we got any more questions. My back is uh, Is starting to wear out Is it time for an iver profan in a nappy poo time for iver profan and Some other stuff. Let's see I agree chain link is going to move later as the next next shin makes up in the link. You're welcome And this is the last one. I'll just I'll leave it to wick wick is right Every time we get into this position right when it's boring and no one wants to be here And we're slowly dollar cost averaging if you're doing that and then all of a sudden everything takes off Don't you always feel the same way like man if I just would have more money If I just would have done this I just wouldn't have done that look I'm going to give you guys permission. You've done as much as you possibly could to this point So enjoy it. You're a hell of a lot farther than anybody else if you're watching this stream And you're and you're paying attention to digital assets and crypto You're going to be the ones that everybody's going to talk to in the holidays like what do I do now because I am Exed so uh, you did everything you do. So don't uh, don't stress too much Jerry last comments last words Thanks for having me man. And thanks for every but all the there was a lot of a lot of twitter ad justice put in there Well, yeah, people like free stuff. That's for sure Well, and I hope I hope that the the people that that get it are happy and the people that Didn't get it Maybe get an opportunity to just even just take a look at where the space is going AI is real it's only going to grow and so It wouldn't hurt to have a little bit of a couple of the projects that are leading the way in that space And you listed them on your uh On your category thing. Yeah, yeah, exactly So well said well said all right, buddy. So again follow Jerry hall twitter He'll reach out to those people and that's it for today. So thanks everybody for stopping by. We appreciate it And we will see you on the next one. Adios Bye