 recording. Is it recording now? Yes. Okay. Good afternoon. Good morning. This is Jenkins Advocacy and Outreach SIG. Today is Thursday, July 14. I have on the agenda GSOC update from Jean-Marc, a quick DevOps world update, CDF slash Buffy update. Is there anything else we should add? Those are all that I know about. Excellent. Oh, do we need to have any conversation about scale 19x? We can. I don't have anything new to update, so that's kind of like why I left no need to have it then. Okay. So Jean-Marc, you want to take over the GSOC update? It's working well. I had the office hour just a couple of minutes ago. Everything is going well. The contributors are getting ready for the Jenkins online meetup. I shared with them that we might run out of sponsoring funds to get them to DevOps world. And so they know that the likelihood is decreasing slowly. Nothing really interesting or general to share on that activity. Okay. So with regards to last year's GSOC stipend, Marc, you saw the email. I need to do some more digging with regards to what happened last year. It looks like Oleg suggested reaching out to Kara. So I will do that. But according to the Linux Foundation, they did not find a registration for last year. So that kind of makes me worry. No, it may just mean that Kara chose to or we intentionally did it and didn't make note of it that we weren't going to ask for the stipend. So if that happened, that's okay. I mean, it's optional that Google offers the stipend and we may have just said, look, we're not going to try to do the complicated thing of getting that stipend paid to us. Okay. So I'll root cause that and see what happened. For DevOps world, so the next phase is that the agenda is currently up. So the next phase is we need to help the event promote it. So how we've done this in the past is by providing technical content about our speaker sessions and we do that via blogs and tweets and LinkedIn posts. But mainly we don't want to do like a marketing pitch, but maybe, you know, hey, I'm speaking here. This is what you can learn when you join that kind of content. So I will be driving that effort with Bruno and Jean-Marc in this next phase, but I'm hoping that we could have content to post at least like once a week just to keep the noise rolling. So Jean-Marc, I will reach out to you on that. Yeah. So and Jean-Marc and I and Bruno have been discussing very actively what we're going to do for a two hour contributing to open source workshop. We've got concepts that we're preparing and ideas. So I think, I think for at least Jean-Marc, me and Bruno, we could, we can help with that in terms of providing a blog post or, or tweet or, you know, et cetera. So absolutely would love to we've got a, we've got an initiative around making it easier to contribute to Jenkins, and it's a great excuse to highlight that. Now it may be several weeks before we're ready, a few weeks before we're ready to trumpet that because I gotta, we've got to finish the writing part of the content, but, but it's a good one, Alyssa. Let's use it. Let's do it. Yeah. Okay. Now I think this is kind of like the first time that we're doing this, Marc, right? How many people do you anticipate attending? Because we're trying to work with the events team on the setup for the room. And Jean-Marc and I had this discussion yesterday. I don't anticipate it to be like a pipeline workshop where it's, you know, standing room and such. So, so we think we were thinking we could support from 30 to 60 attending. Okay. Jean-Marc, are you still okay with that as a concept? We've, we've got working model for 30, and, and I think it would be a fun thing if, if we got more than 30, but if we get much beyond 60, if it gets to a hundred, it's probably going to be tough. There, there, we, we will not be able to, especially if we want to feed the fast, the one that move ahead fast with additional material. Right. Now, it will keep us busy. We could consider if we've got, so you, you had a note there that Alex Brandus and Uli Hofner, we may be able to have, if Alex can be there, he would be a great helper for our workshop. Yeah. So, well, there I feel more comfortable. Okay. So if, if we could persuade Alex to be a participant in the workshop, he'd be a great voice to have. Okay. Yep. The principle, Alissa, is that the people will, will work in pair. This is how we can reach the maximum capacity of 60. Right. All right. Okay. But I, I triggered the discussion, Mark, with Alissa, that we have enough space to move between the tables. But this is barely under control because otherwise they need to reshuffle the room and this is going to, to fail on that day. Yeah. We certainly don't want to make them adjust the room layout, right? We, but let's, let's be sure that we've got space that we can work. But if, if they tell us, oh, no, the room's only set for 20. Okay. We understand that we'll, we'll plan for 20. If the room is set for 200, then we'll probably tend to use a smaller fraction of the total room. Or have the people use one bench. Right. Exactly. Alternating, alternating benches, that kind of thing, alternating seats. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm working with the events team on that. So I will keep you posted with what they can do. Great. Alissa, the, the size of the block posts to prepare are these regular 1000 words block posts or less 500, 500 would be a good target. Otherwise people will not read you. Do you have an idea about that? I've seen them short and long, Jean-Marc. Some of the great blog posts are very detailed, very technical. So those tend to be long. So I don't have a specific preference, but I mean, it, I think it really depends on the content that we deliver. I'm going to check on previous versions to see what so I have a target. Yeah. Because I don't want to bore people. And I can, I can dig some up and share it with you too, which the ones that I thought were, were great. Yeah. Okay. That would be very helpful. Yeah. Okay. And then, so the next item, Marc, you already went ahead and alluded about the, the contributor summit. So I just got news from Uli this morning. So this is like right, a hot off the press. So he will be able to join, but he might need to leave early, which is perfectly fine. At least he'll be there for the contributor summit and perhaps Wednesday. Great. Okay. Yeah. So I am working with them on the logistical details on finances and such. And, you know, we want to make sure that we take care of them with regards to reimbursing them accordingly after the event. And then, you know, any logistical issues they have, I'm working directly with them as well, just to make sure that it's a smooth process for them. And there's no roadblocks. So we are, so Bruno, Marc and I are working on the agenda for the contributor summit. Marc has given us some great directions and where to head to. And I'm working on the scene of, you know, confirming people in attendance and that they are giving us their blessing that they will speak. So that's in the process for me. And then next week, Bruno will send out a conversation via discourse and we will solicit additional feedback and input at that point. But that is our current plan. Okay. Excellent. Thank you. Thanks, Alyssa. You bet. CDF and Bevy. So there's been talks of moving meetup.com to Bevy. The decision has not been made. So we had a discussion this week. Thank you, Jean-Marc and Marc for leading that discussion with CDF. But I think they have a very clear understanding of our needs. So they just need to take that information and go back and work on their numbers and see what will work for them and what will work for us. Because definitely, we do not want any features taken away from us. I think we're okay with meetup at the moment, but we're willing to try out Bevy as well. And then Zoom will remain as is at this moment. Even with some improvements to have individual accounts. Yes. Yeah. Or SIG. Yeah. And that's it. Let me stop the recording.