 You're shouting at someone. I am shouting. But anyway, I hope things are well for you. We have a great show lineup for you on Matters of Health and entrepreneurship. And I'm so excited on what SAKWA has for us in this, you know, banner that we're about to have. My name is Stephanie, and yes, I can get me on that particular name also on my social media handles. And just a reminder, at Y244 channel is where you interact with us. And we're going to ask you the question of the day in not too long. So make sure you open, yes, SAKWA. All right, back to me. Salsa, but before we get too far, like Stephanie said, we have an amazing lineup for programming. Today we also have Tuesday Health, including entrepreneurship as well. So stick around for amazing programming in just a bit. But before we get to, before we talk about who else is making headlines for good and bad reasons, I'd just like us to talk a little bit on Matters' mental health. And today being Tuesday, Tuesday mental health are also being Tuesday entrepreneurship. I'd really like to know, like, how do you guys, you know, stay mentally afloat in as much as, you know, you're interacting with a lot of people, you're extending energies, we are young, of course. But then you have to stay afloat when it comes to, you know, having a mental balance. And we understand mental wellbeing is a state of, like, being emotionally well, mentally okay, not just even personally, socially as well, including with other people. So I'd really like to know, like, how do you stay mentally afloat? I like how self-righteous, like, can I slide it back to you as a regroup? Wow. Okay. Okay, I'll take the first one. So how do I stay mentally afloat? I've never really thought about it, but this is what I do or I try to do. I take in what I can handle, you know, because there are many situations where you get overwhelmed. So when I get to that point, I don't know what to put it, but I'm very keen to know, when I'm being disturbed, you know, you just know that there's something wrong, you have a bad mood. So I pin it down to what could have made me feel that way. They said, oh, it's the money. That's a good thing. Yeah, so I get to the root of that thing. And then now, when I get to that, I know a solution and I know what not to do next time. And then I let this off. It helps me somehow, one way or the other. And then if things are overwhelming, I only take out, I write them down. I need to do this, I need to do this. So I've not been able to do that, but let me start with this too, so that I can finish up with those and I take them off and it gives me a fulfillment and no other, I'll get to the others at some point in time. As long as I have some sort of organization, I'm able to manage things, and the things that are out of my control, maybe something that has happened, I leave it to God, honestly. For me, when I go with the word, if you worry what will happen, so don't worry, let's go and let God, that's just how I get to have a fulfillment. Can I add on what she said? I really, really like Stephanie's train of thought. I was talking to her, and the way she handled it, I was like, you're an adult. I like it. I really do, you have such a very interesting way of looking at life, and I really appreciate it. Thank you, thank you for that. And you want me to answer your question? Look, I talk while putting me on the spot again. Okay, that's fine. Okay, for me, it's a bit heavier because for a long time I've been pretending that I am okay, and I have been an entertainment host for a very long time, so my job description, literally, I have to be happy all the time, whether I want to or not, whether I want to or not. So I've been kind of winging it with this mental health thing, but just recently, last year, I got a mentor. So what that has done to me is, she asked me very specific questions that make me reach into myself. I'm like, why do I behave like this? And as a result, follow me on YouTube at Kalamiva. So I've been able to now make videos on the same. So, yeah, I still do see my mentor, but these videos is a very big form of release. I find that even when I talk about things that have disturbed me in my childhood, they solve a lot of issues in my present. Wow. Simply just talking about something that happened X years ago. Yes, yes. And it's funny how people don't know this, but your childhood traumas can really affect your future self, unless you come and deal with them, then you carry the burdens that you had from that point in time, and I'm so proud of you, Va. I watch that channel and it's just amazing. You know, it takes courage and you're inspiring people out there. Someone going through the same, they're learning from you and yeah. Thank you. So keep on doing that. I'm so proud of you. Like I was looking at it and I'm like, how many people would have the courage to like sit down and like take a look at their past life with the flaws, the mistakes they made. And you know, this also comes with a lot of fears. It comes with a lot of uncertainty and a place of shame and guilt, which I feel like almost everyone of us has passed through a place where you feel that you're doubting yourself, you don't believe in yourself, or maybe there's people who don't believe in yourself. So it's like you're caught up between yourself and yourself. So you have either to like support yourself to believe in yourself, or just like fall down, but it's so amazing how you did it. Something else that has attributed to it is, I took a course on self-awareness. It was a crash course. It took me a couple of weeks, but again, it was, it was very intense and intentional. Yes. Knowledge is power, by the way. No one can take it away from you. Yeah. True. And it has reminded me, yesterday I had a friend of mine, I think I had mentioned this, like we usually have, like, I'll say, most of us who are in radio or in TV, we usually like have a meetup sometimes where, especially online, maybe on a Google Hangout or Zoom, or WhatsApp group call, where we vent, like today it's Sakuya venting about how he was disappointed, how he felt like he was fairly treated, I'm aware how some things are not going on the way he has envisioned to. Am I your failures? You know, sometimes you feel like you have failed, but then you're feeling like that, but there's a lot of people who are looking at you from a point like, you have everything that I want. Like wow, yes. Why are you feeling like this? Come on. So we usually have that committing and we gas ourselves up the next day, you come to work or you pull up in the next event and you're all positive, but last night you guys were crying together on our WhatsApp group call, so that's like our venting outlet. So I feel like it's an amazing thing to have a community of young people who just meet and share their mistakes, share where you feel inadequate, you'll be like, but you're okay, why are you feeling like this? A lot of people admire to do what you're doing, but they will never even get there. So don't, they say sometimes you don't know what you have until it's gone. Like realizing even your self-worth and how you mean to yourself and other people, it's a very powerful thing. Is that how you coincide with mental health? That's how you stay? Yeah, I think that's how I cope. We usually have that venting session on WhatsApp. Like today it's another friend, the next day someone, the next day is another friend, and they see him or boys to pick him, it's open to, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we vent, like when I see a perspective of them, when I see a perspective of Charlie, and if it's like, how long does that go for? It goes for as long as your anger stays. Oh, so you stay there the whole night. Right, your anger stays. There's a term we even talked up to around four a.m. Wow. Yeah. My goodness. So that's how we vent. Okay. And it's working, we need to have also one. I feel like journalists need to have that mental health portal. Why, when you feel depressed, angry, disappointed, go there, seek services, and you'll be just okay. Hey, I honestly think this, it's like a support group. It's really better to have people that you can go to and talk, you know, even, as Sakwa said, for on-air personalities or celebrities, you know, because there's a standard where society has placed you. Now, yeah, and you can't, you always want a sheet there, what do you mean? So you get people to understand you where you can talk and you can share your frustrations and share your failures because no one is perfect. And, you know, when you feel that you need to be perfect, I think that's the point where things don't really work out and you feel imperfect, but people still think you're perfect because we all have our flaws and we all go through bad times. But, you know, when the set expects you to be okay every time you're human, you can. So, I mean, it's very important to have those support groups. For me, even apart from media and everything, even in sessions where youth groups in church, you know, where we meet, how is your week? So, how can you share your failures? We might not get into details, but at least you've shared, and really sharing is, a problem shared is health-solve. One or the other. Yeah, exactly. I agree. I'm not going to talk about venting or thinking that way. We've said it, it's half way gone. But I also suggest you do it in a safe way. With the right people. Make sure, because not everyone will understand you. Sure. Everyone will be very receptive. Do you want to say something? He might be talking about his frustrations, but there's someone thinking, why are you complaining? You have everything. So, that might feel like a slap in the face to them. Like, you're perfect. Why are you... You will keep all that suffering. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. So, make sure you do it in a safe environment. A mature and safe environment. And sometimes you might be turning up to, let's say to work, or doing projects out there, and you come by your operating in NAMB mode. That's a friend who was saying, that sometimes you've blocked out everything, like, it's like you have a filter. You don't go to, when somebody triggers you, just a dot, you can explode and share all the worst words. So, it's called a trigger. So, you're operating in NAMB mode, where you're not expressing how sad, happy, or, let's say, how broken you are. So, you're just holding on. But when you meet an incident that just pokes, just a little bit, it's a whole past. Yeah. So, it's okay to, like, find an outlet of expressing ourselves. Even men, you know, men rarely talk. Especially men. Especially men. And it's interesting that my next guest, the next guest, the first guest that we're going to have on health, I'll be talking about his journey with depression and he's a man, and his recovery journey. How did he come about? How did he speak up? You know, what did that do to him, especially being a man, you know? And I want to, I'm really curious to find that out. So, it's got to be a good composition. Right. Does this, does this New York best-selling author, Ian Lavazant, she was an opera's best friend. I think she's still opera's best friend. She had a show called Fix My Life, where they used to invite black Americans who come from broken homes. Especially where the dad was absent or the dad was abusive or the mom died a little bit early. So the kids had to resort to some other things. The show's called Fix My Life. I think it ended in the early 2000s. So, there's a place where she says, she tells this young man, if you only master how to express yourself and be understood as a black man, then you're winning all avenues of life. Because most of us men, we are told to operate under certain filter where you're not supposed to show whether you're disappointed, you're not supposed to express whether you're being pinched. You're not supposed to show that you're feeling vulnerable, like maintain that strength. Cluck on my manome. Exactly like Kyve. So that when you die, you just die. Whatever will happen, let it happen. So, I think we live in a world where we need to tell. Like if you're feeling bad, say I'm feeling bad. I'm feeling not okay, please understand. So that next time we don't pull up with a gun and just shoot people and not tell them why am I shooting you. And then you shoot. I know. Oh my God, that's quite sad. All right. So, please, please let's find a way of expressing ourselves. Yes, Steph. Okay, no, it's how you've said it. That the next time you're pulling up with a gun and shooting people without telling them why. Shoot them. So you don't get to shoot them. If you shot them. But this is why. You know, they say, what led you to beat this person out? Like I beat them up because they killed somebody. But you don't just beat people up. You know, you don't have a right to beat people up. But anyway, we're still on the beating up before we get into a little again, just shortly. There's this singer-songwriter, and it's Brandy Minor, who put out a tweet yesterday. She said that unless it's Nya Shinsky, Kinoti, and what, Tendawili, or Femiwan, or Fathamo, she's not going to do any collabo's this year. And she also said, leave me out of interviews as well. I'm not doing any for any station. And then one of the punters responded, that's a misleading attitude familiar to most of us. And now this is how once needs proper supervision. And that is your downfall. I'm like, wow. That's extreme. That's downfall, gosh. Wow. I'm missing a coffee. What? But I did see the media part. She does not want to do any media. Any interviews. Come on. Who had her lead? Some people say, Brandy Minor, this doesn't, is it? What kind of choice? What, what? What led? What happened that led to this particular choice? I can only imagine. I don't know, because even with the collabo, maybe for media interviews, Tendawili, but collabo's, what happened? Who now, what are my disappointments with the collabo's? She says, she says she only has specific people, Njalsinski, and the Wattendawili. Femiwan. Yeah. Any gods who are industry peke? What? Well. Crazy. We can't read PSCC's career level where we say we can't attend events that don't have Beyoncé and Kanye West. We can't read, we can't read as well. That was speaking for himself. By the way, I can only imagine how my red card would be. Like, I only attend events where there's Asher Aymond, Beyoncé, there's Mbappe, there's Cristiano, there's. The big guys. Like, only the leads of that industry. Well. You'll be on a million dollar paycheck. As we finish up, let me just juggle your mind a little bit. I want you guys to spell this for me. So I'll try it with Val and then Steph, you can pick it up. I must tell you, Steph, you'll pick it up. Oh, you're good saying like we're in a cup. Val, stop running away. Stop running away. The first word is kochua. Kochua, I think it's Princess Kochua. Why, you want to embarrass me on TV? No way. You guys have brought us here. You guys are journalists. You are meant for this. You're meant for this. Kochua. Kochua, kochua or kochua? Let me try. What do you mean? Are you sure you don't? No, I usually just spell it like that with me. So I probably won't get it, but let me see. OK, just try to picture it in any other. Kochua, OK, C-O-U-T-U-R-E. Ah, you got it. You got it. You got it. Oh, my partner A. Oh, my partner A. Let me try. The next two are very hard. Let me give Val an easy one. Bureau. Bureau. Like a company or a restaurant institution. That's not fair. Or Kenya Bureau of Standards. No, because it has many vowels. It's a short word. In fact, it's shorter than kochua. It has many vowels. Next. I'm not going to get it. The next ones are very hard. You will cry. They are extremely difficult. Tell me one more. I'm sitting in the US, Mississippi. M-I-S-S-I-P-P-P-I. Nope. M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I. Ah, you got it. Thank you. M-I-S-I-N-I-N-I-N-I-N-I-S-I. OK, and another word is to stay from them. And the next one is to Val. Nonchalance. Why are you giving her easy ones? Easy. Nonchalance. Easy. Let's do nonchalance. Nonchalance is an adjective that means being calm, having a calm personality, calm and collected. Nonchalance. Nonchalance. I'm hearing that for the first time. If I wrote that, I'll spell bureau. Nonchalant. N-O-N-C-H-I-L-A-N-T. Wrong? Nope. I prefer it. Again, try again. Nonchalance. Ah, no, sorry. Nonchalance. Try again, try again. You almost got it. Nonchalance. Nonchalance. No, I'm... OK, with an E, have a... Nope. OK. Again, try again, try again. Nonchalance. I can't embarrass myself past that. Got it, didn't you? You almost got it, Steph. Imagine it's such an easy one. Try it one more time. Yeah, please, retake it. With a E. Everything else was fine. Try again, try again. Without the E. Yeah, removal E, nonchalance. N-O-N-C-H-L-A-N-T. No, you skipped like a letter in between. Again, nonchalance. Nonchalance. Yeah, nonchalance. Oh, OK. N-O-N-C-H-A-L-A-N-T. Ah, nice. I know I wronged it. I had nonchalance, not nonchalance. It's accent. So it's the accent. Yeah, guys, I am smart. It's just so-called accent. Yeah, nonchalance. I am proud of that. The last one is for Baal. Arsenein. Chloe Kardashian uses this word a lot. And those journalists from a certain folk station who criticized Kenya last year and she used this word. I know it. Arsenein. You just had it laughing at me even before it started. Arsenein. No, you're not being fair. Arsenein meaning foolish, stupid, and not smart. Arsenein thing. This is the most arsenein thing I've had. Arsenein. Yeah, arsenein. I don't think I'm going to get it. Arsenein. It's just the way it is. A-R. A? R. Mm-hmm. S. Mm-hmm. Endela, endela, endela, endela. N. Arsenein. I-N-E. No, if you only removed the R. Oh, A-S, arsenein. Arsenein. A-S-E-N-I-N-E. No, it's I. Where is I? Then nine, the third nine. Oh, arsenein. Arsenein. Most foolish, stupid thing. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Two new words. We're making supper, spare something. Oh, my goodness. You guys are great. We have to learn the toughest word in the dictionary. Two not being able to do anything. We're just giving ourselves, you can't spell it. You guys will kill me. So the word is bureau, nonchalant, arsenein, mesisyp, you guys got it. Apart from the arsenein, but you guys did well. Congratulations. Oh, no, I'm shouting. That's why you guys are journalists. And thank you. And thank you so much. But say your social media handles and talk about your segments before we take a break. We'll start with Steph. All right, so next coming on will be health. And we're going to talk about overcoming depression from a personal experience with the guest. He's going to tell us about his journey through depression and how he was able to get past it. It's going to be a very interesting discussion having that he is a man and how the society treats men in regards to how they handle depression. So stay tuned for that. Well, for me, it will be highlighting on identifying talent and inspiring passion. Two things I really like, yes, it's a small, small secret. When I was an instainment host at a particular show, I'd make sure my weekends I go scout for talent. I'd go look for guests and the dogs, not the ones who are known. Yes, yes, these are my favorite kind. So I can't wait for this particular interview. I can't wait as well to meet your guests as well. On my segment during the tail end of the broadcast, we'll be talking about comedy, how to incorporate food and bring it out in a very comical way. There used to be this program that featured Snoop Dogg and Martha Stewart, where they are on a set, they are cooking by cracking crazy jokes. So the next guest it will be having towards the tail end of the broadcast will actually be telling us how she uses food to make other people happy in a comical and just hilarious way. So you guys be ready for a fantastic segment towards that. Ooh, have a good food. Ah! Would be interesting. I can't wait, I'm excited. Same here. So to color me well, I'm Stephanie Ayerta and Brian Socorno one at Y2 for 4 channel and the hashtag is still on the morning. We take a break to come back with much more. 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