 It is the mindset Monday edition of the breakfast on plus TV Africa and yes It is raining cats and dogs here in Lagos. I don't know what the situation is where you are, but it is raining cats and dog The weather forecast had told us they'll be scattered thunderstorms and it would be 27 degree Celsius today So it's raining cats and dogs. Sometimes Some of these things I don't know what I'll call them lies or they don't factor in that God is God But also when you are in a car and you are relying on the map to take you to where you are sometimes you pass your Your branch and you you're going somewhere else the map is directing you You get there only to find out that you had passed where you are supposed to branch off into somewhere else So sometimes you rely on these things But know that there's also a factor that may be tiny But significant enough for you to know that you need to be cautious No, you have all this things. Oh, well, we do have a report for you Remember that we are reviewing the campaign promises of a new presidency and the effects of a new beginning on our mindset today As we take in what's going on today in Nigeria The inauguration of the new administration the stringing of present-elect Ahmed Bola to noble today at the Eagle Square in Abuja Let's take this report to come back and continue with the first hot topic May 29 Nigeria Transit into a new government the demands have not changed from those tabled before the outgoing government of President Buhari residents of Yanigwa in Biosas state tell the president-elect to fix the east-west road security health system education among others East-west route There were budgets that were released to fix the road but up to now the road is not yet fixed And it's a major road that connects a lot of states together and all that I think and the incoming government should do something about it to put that road in place so that They can be transportation easy movement of people goods and all that they blame the outgoing administration For the hike in price of food stuff We failed in some aspects. Okay for the incoming government They they in as much as they are coming from the same party, but I know even two brothers cannot actually be him to some But they I'm begging you tinny boo if you want me to need and I will need and I'm begging the name of God Whatever you hold so dear you see this Nigeria that is about to rise at the verge of collapsing don't collapse it They made a lot of promises when coming into office many area of security job Employment education even if there are a lot of areas they didn't do right think this incoming government will also do the same So I don't really expect much from them. They should also do their parts and leave office I will say this government field all of us If I'm to give them a pass mark should be like 10 over 100 Because what they promised us when they came in They promised us a change and that change will never experience any change any positive change actually There was a change But it was a negative side that we all experience as Nigerians from the look of things. We are who have become ants of Africa They've been suffering people the head sector is suffering the academic sector What just name it? You say it's just right by the government You know, you can you can clearly see that they have visions and what they promise us they didn't fulfill any of them and I Will say this is a this is the bad and the worst Admission we've ever experienced in this country in Karnah state residents expressed disappointment in what the termed bad policies of the outgoing government again in this mass it starts to gather money For him to buy his nomination form or whatever they voted for him with their blood But along the wrong this government disappointed us They made the people to have hope which has turned to hopeless People have been agitating people have been seeing Buhari as the only Messiah of this planet earth But when Buhari came to power he didn't do it So to me if you want to talk about this government this government has done nothing They have failed the people hopefully the promised Nigerians That a buck of rice will be sold at the rate of even five thousand Naira and Then Nigeria will be entitled or some allowances. They didn't meet up the expectation of Nigeria's And what I would like to say again for the incoming government if they can be able to work on the lapses of the outgoing President or administration They can really really meet up what Nigeria wants. If you ask me sir to be frank with you In my opinion Buhari record zero achievements Yes, this one From the coming government is a total reformation love. I mean all sectors Okay, we expect them. I mean total reformation all sectors Resident in Kano say the Buhari government came with a lot of promises Especially with his change mantra which they say haven't been fully fulfilled one issue that I can say yes There is an achievement is the issue of devastation of the economy. We now shift from the Minera sector to and the agriculture If you can remember the previous statement the outgoing statement in late he said we Grow what we eat we eat what we grow or we die So that's just maybe like a statement of maybe an encouragement But I know it might sound somehow to some people so my expectation is not that huge But I you know Nigeria is full of nepotism. You understand so the issue of unemployment. I can still I'm written on this more So the issue of unemployment is deeper amount So I'm thinking this income in administration says the incoming president of Nigeria and But I'm a tinum boo. He says he's for the youth. So I hope maybe he might yes Give the youth what they want that is employment I Will say that this government failed in the area of stabilizing the economy because prices of goods and services Continually is kirokated without stabilization the narrow design policy of the outgoing administration Was the worst for me because the lack of cash made me lose my wife at the hospital when she was seriously ill My prayer is that the incoming administration of ball at the noble will stabilize the economy and make life better for Nigerians As a Nigeria we are expecting a better Nigeria and a greater development from the previous government, but Right now what we see for the past eight years was not suitable for us and the business strategy is now everything has become So devastated that we cannot even in deal To my own point of view and the business I'm into Every prices has gone higher than before before the government came in the prices were very low But now the price will hide and you buy things more expensive than you do to buy before Lagos residents share mixed feelings and hope the new administration Will do better in improving the lives of Nigerians place the mama of the brother actually did it best You understand we command him for the things he don't but you know in terms of security He didn't actually do a because we expected more from him because he's a general I know the secrets a DC a security situation of Nigeria is better than before when PDP was in power Because we know we can't go to churches to be scared can't go to public because of bomb blasts and all that But all those issue we don't have those issues now But we still expected more from him because there are some new challenge that comes up in terms of security I'm looking forward to this Ballat in the brand is station where expected him to address those areas their president for my brother has not really done way It is just you say education no Because today in university I've dropped out for more than one year and that one. I'm very sure everybody I've heard about it Security people in not are dying every day by day Booker and bandit in Igbo land every way every way imagine someone like me now I have school qualification, but I don't have work and All that people have so what they don't have work even if you have school qualification Even if you go to work, they will not pay you well. Am I in the same 15 30,000 as basic? But some company are not paying and nobody care to ask each company are paying well Fully keep on increasing. So I pray for what I made to know who call bless him and it would do well It's easy if it's possible to try you for like 10 days or 100 days to see how it feels It's not easy. It's easy to take a house to the stream But it's not easy to force the house to take water. It's possible. It would tell them this is this is that because it's here You know the complain of everybody so it's not possible. Everybody will be complaining the country will be on fire And it will keep quiet and be sitting there. It's not possible. He's trying He has tried his best as the administration of Bola Ahmed to new book gets on stream Nigerians expect that naming a well-qualified cabinet who all cohere around a common development vision Should be a priority for Tinnubu as it will send a very strong and positive signal Paul George plus TV news Well, that was the administration of President Mohammed of Buhari through the ice of the citizenry at least Some of the people Almost all the people were talking about how it's been difficult in the administration but they are still positives if we look at it critically and I do hope that we can see the positives and Also, hope that we don't see those positives as being better than the one that we are going to meet in the next four Years after this inauguration like everybody has been saying let us not let us not look behind or In to the past and counter blessings from the past and forget the ones in the future or not see anyone in the future That we have. Yeah, that report there by our correspondent Paul judge filling the polls of the common man and Indeed, it is important to if you're going to assess a government Take the fall with the polls of everyone. Yeah, rich poor middle class That's if we still have middle class in this country and find out what are they feeling? How have they fed and that was what we treated on Friday, isn't it? Yeah, has this administration led to Nigerians better than it met Nigerians in 2015 when he came into power obviously from that report by Correspondent Paul judge. He took her he took You know Vox Pop from Cardona State the North People from by Elsa South-South people from Lagos Southwest and you know finding out how Do you score this outgoing? Administration and from what we could see and none of them spoke well of this administration And so it is it says a lot about what Nigerians have gone through and what Nigerians are expecting from the APC The APC the ruling or progressive Congress if they must if they must Get Nigerians to trust this incoming administration They must be seen to know what they are doing from the get-go because yeah, yeah Well before this election came up there was there were campaigns everybody was talking about what they were going to do And right now we have a president elect which in a few minutes time will be Crowned president as it is for Nigeria So we're going to take a look at some of the promises that were made during these campaigns of Ashwa Joe Bola Ahmed to know boo and by extension the entire APC that they are going to put in place So we're glad that we've been we're being joined by two very prominent Analysts who are also very regular on the program one of them is Nick Agouli and the other one is Jidde Johnson both of them are joining us now Nick Agouli and Jidde Johnson. Good morning and thanks for joining us Yeah, good morning It's good to see you also have mr. Johnson Ambo a legal practitioner joining us. So we have three Guests joining us to discuss Nigeria the new dawn Good morning Johnson Agou Good morning. It is my pleasure to be with you. Always a pleasure to have you join us Thank you. Okay. Happy inauguration day. Happy Democracy day happy May 29th to you gentlemen. That's how we're starting with you It's a prayer actually some people Feel when you say happy inauguration day and they will ask you what is happy about today and all that But it's a prayer that this day turns out right this day Marks the beginning of a new dawn for Nigeria. So let me begin with Nick Agouli today There's going to be inauguration in a matter of minutes. We're going to have a new president in Nigeria Let's take your general feel of what is happening here today before we begin to actually Item by item the kind of promises that were made by the incoming administration Thank you very much that today is the dawn of a new era we're going to have a new government at the Federa and at 28 of the 36 states we're going to have new governments today and the Federa is a change of guards Be not a change of party because the APC the ruling party will continue in government and For all Nigerians, we are expectant of change We have some as one of The passage that came on said we were so expectant of change in 2015 Not seeing much of that change or if at all change in the negative direction. So we are hopeful that this time around Things will be better those who are taking the The range of parts they will deliver on the social contract that we the people of Nigeria have with them Johnson Agou, can you hear me? Give us your pulse. Let's let's fill your pulse on what's happening today. I Don't sound so pessimistic because APC's government is actually not new we've been in APC's government since 2015 and We were at points of despondency Going into this 2023 election. So Telling us to renew hope after we've seen the last level I don't know a lot of people are pessimistic about it But I choose to see if that I have to hope You know to see there's some form of hope anywhere. So I am trying to take a look at their Newest set of promises which are not exactly too new because if you go through the 80 page there Manifesto that they released. I think sometime on 16 of 15th of October 2022 you'll be you'll see nearly the same thing as they said that in 2015 and They also promise to continue on the same work the same trajectory as the last administration That's the president Muhammad Boulary's administration. That's ending today. So I I'm only trying to hope against hope, but I don't see what is going to be new All right, let's go to Jideh Johnson and the question is the same But we're just asking you specifically Do you think this is a beginning or the beginning of something new or is more of the same? Okay, Jideh Johnson has not been able to join us. Okay, so let's let's move on Johnson you talked about this campaign promises that he made and I'm glad that you were able to look at it thoroughly the president-elect During his 71st birthday celebration. He did say that and I quote I Campaign hard and made important promises those promises were not a mere words profess globally or cynically to win support that he released that via his Twitter handle Well, you are not impressed by the campaign promises and I've looked at some of them and Really, I would say it is just typical. I mean each time we have new leaders come in you have Similar things being said promise of making sure we have power Promise of getting jobs promise of this and that let me read some of them build Nigeria Build a Nigeria especially for our youth. We are sufficient jobs with decent wages create a better life All right Modernize and expand public infrastructure so that the rest of the economy can grow at an optimal rate All right generate Transmit and distribute sufficient affordable electricity to give our people the requisite power to enlighten their lives their homes and very dreams and You just begin to wonder when are we going to leave this? Elementary level of campaign promises Give us your take on that Ask when we are leaving the level we are in I mean the level of promises that they are offering to us I think they are offering to us what they think we need at this time. Maybe when we Move away from this level of need somebody talks about much less pyramid of needs Maybe when we leave this level of basic physiological needs We can expect different promises maybe something of another level But at this time this kind of premises are enticing the only problem we have with APC set of promises Is that it is the same? Promise that they made in 2015 This same VAT this president elect isn't new. He may be his premises on behalf of this outgoing president he Swore that he's gonna be affected if he knew how to affect these premises Which I believe are not new I Don't know why he didn't help the outgoing president to affect them in the last eight years It is to be too much to be wasted hoping for a turn You know before you can start effecting the promises you met the eight years ago. He's terrible That's the one look at it from but as for whether we are in this level that is where we are We are supposed to be met at the points of our knee Nobody should give to us what we do not need yet For instance when people view their flyovers in places where there are no traffic conjections Conjections. Yeah, I asked myself. Why is flyover just I mean what they call interchanged Is it a beautification or no, is it just built for building sick? Is it an artifact? Is it for aesthetics or is it meant to solve a problem? Is it functional? I would have rather preferred you take money used to build that flyover at a point where it is not needed to build a Bridge across a river to connect a community to the next community That's the way I look at it. Both of them are bridges as in the one you call a bridge Properly so-called is The same as the one you call a flyover. They take about the same type of Is the same type of a skill the same type of Power is just a resource allocation So in the in context of our discussion My thinking is that we in Nigeria are still at this level where we still need power to be available to us We still need enterprises or enabling environment or enterprises to try so that in the cost of being busy Solving problems that generate More money and more work people will get employed for instance if I start a small farm Probably as a poultry man. I starting 10 Birds and Before the food policy of Nigeria, I'm able to improve my poultry stock say one thousand I alone will not be able to tend to ten one thousand pounds in a day I mean, I may have to get a hand and when to when a person can care about care for Poetry what hasn't poetry and he gets another person the likelihood that they can multiply to ten thousand in there And when they get there, they will not need another set of hands to do other things Maybe to kill the file clean it up refrigerate Those are chains that we fall out as a result of improved activity from my own end So this is what I expect at this stage. They should keep promising What? Dream is more important than promises. Okay. Thank you, John saying you've alluded to the fact that some of these promises are the same promises that APC this party this same ruling party made to us in 2015 those promises not fulfilled and I asked this question particularly calling them elementary Because I mean 62 years of independence and 24 years of democracy One would have expected that a nation as rich and as buoyant as Nigeria one of the largest producers of crude in the world should have passed this level Nicky want to come in? Thank you very much. Yes indeed. We should have gone past this point because our mates like Brezi Indonesia and co a Malaysia they've gone past this point. So we're actually lagging behind But before I will give for a further details. I just want to say that my co-panelist Johnson has situated his His point on the basis of party But you see in Nigeria We don't actually see these parties implement their programs We see more of the individual because in Nigeria the party The if I if you look at the APC of today Which came into being back in 2014 the APC of today is being led by a former PDP Senator being the secretary as I mean as chairman and the secretary is a former PDP senator as well You see so the parties really don't play any role in Nigeria in terms of delivery of Their promises is about the individuals as that's why for me even though It is an APC government succeeding an APC government We need to look at the individuals involved because it is what those individuals actually decide to do that happens You don't see like in other democracies where the party insists or even entwist Those who have been elected to deliver on the party promises to the to the electorate So I think maybe after 100 days we will be able to say that The current set of leaders that are going to be sown in today On the same trajectory as those that they have just succeeded or maybe they're chatting a new course So it's a bit early to wreck them. We just need them in fact the first thing we're going to use to wreck them Will be the kind of appointments that they are going to make You know the quality of people they are going to put into positions We decide I mean we begin to show us give us an indication of the direction to which they are going So I will say that in terms of where we should be we should have been far beyond where we are now Far beyond you made mention of Far as one of the promises that has been made as we speak today Nigeria a population of over 200 million the power supply is 3000 megawatts Compared that to a place like Brazil, Brazil have almost the same Population like us. They are over 200 million their power supply is 150,000 megawatts per day think of three thousand think of a hundred and fifty thousand The likes of South Africa with a population of less than 60 million. They are supplying 50,000 megawatts in there 1.4 billion people are supplying 400,000 megawatts if we in Nigeria if we were to supply in there The same power that we are supplying to Nigeria will only be given in 21,000 megawatts 21,000 how do I mean 21,000 because the population of India is seven times the population of Nigeria And if Nigeria is giving itself 3000 megawatt just multiply three by several and India will be on 21,000 megawatt But it is on 400,000 megawatts and we're gas producing nation You know and the tragedy is that we spend time and resources to actually produce the gas And when we bring the gas to the surface instead of harnessing the gas Piping it through turbines to generate electricity Plenty full for this economy. We set the gas on fire And then as I speak now probably plus TV is on a generator My own power was just supplied a 30 minutes ago, and I'm here in Abuja. And yet I didn't have power So those are the kind of things that make us to be lagging behind There is no way economy that you want to try Without adequate power supply because power supply is like blood to an economy and if you staff a body of blood There are no doctors that are going to save that body Doctors the only way doctors can heal a body is to give that body adequate blood And then they now take care of every other thing. We have agriculture is rainy season now Apart from rainy season almost every community in Nigeria has a river around it and that can be irrigation If you down a river by a community, you are going to get irrigation You are going to get fishing you are going to get hydro power You are going to get potable water and you're going to get tourism I'm imagine multiply all that if I want to leave Abuja now I'll come and meet you Legos I'm going to go either by a very expensive or I go by road and I spend the whole day But I can just get on a fast train Within two hours I leave Abuja Milagos imagine all those trains imagine we have Ray Connecting the federal capital to each state capital in Nigeria for a start. Just imagine that And then you can look at how convenient we can move you can see how convenient our goals can move Then you can see the jobs that will be created for our youth But there are all these kind of things that governments must come and tackle head on we don't tackle them We are not for if an arish to rot and for eight years a government will continue paying subsidies in trillions of naira You know, so we have also to allow her give food and I Hope and I pray that this coming lead several leaders should just meet the ground running They should just look at us the suffering people of Nigeria and just have messy on us Let them just deliver in terms of All that we need Okay. Well, let let me just pose this question to both of you beginning from Our beginning with Johnson Needless to say the campaigns are the same you guys have said it already the campaign promises of 2015 resurfaced in 2019 now in 2023. They are the same, but a critical Point is that they have not been fulfilled the way Nigerians Wanted them to be fulfilled. So my question is What would you advise should be the right route to take the right route to take to make sure this campaign promises are Fulfilled the way they should be the promised security job creation transportation system Education unity of the country a lot of these things are not there. I'm not sure Nigeria is More united now than in 2015. I'm not sure that we have a better transportation system I'm not sure that our education system is better not with the long strike that we had or the security situation has Improved even when this administration prides itself as being the administration that has has Plucked the feathers as it were of Boko Haram and other insurgencies in the country and all that they see Security has improved with them Nigerians see differently So what is that critical thing missing that the previous administration? I'm talking about the one that is handing over today now I could not do to bring these things to fruition that the next administration Needs to look at to make sure that this campaign promises are fulfilled Johnson. Let me begin with you Yeah, thank you for this question. I think that's the Proper starting point This aspiring administration got it wrong by not putting around In around hold and prioritizing Projes according to needs They play to the gallery prefer to do white elephant pictures to in quotes impressed the Constituencies that gave them 97 percent votes over and above the Constituencies that gave them five percent votes with that mindset not being in close see the Crew have gotten to the right tracks and if you are in the wrong route, you can never get to your destination I'll give a lost ratio We spent a lot of money constructing gas pipeline from a geocutter To canon and with intention to take it to the chair of public gas pipeline is supposed to convey gas and We intend that the industry is located along that gas line we now switch The energy consumption from whatever means they are using to available gas resources in Nigeria Which is intended to be cheaper and we believe that in such process we will Create more jobs or make cost of production cheaper and you know attract more industries however That's a KK project Of course, it was conceived by the previous a Jonathan administration and in fact started as in building contrast and all of this It started in 2013 order about But the prerequisite the starting point was now omitted that is bringing gas Gas from the points of productions in the southern part of Nigeria up to a geocutter So we neglected the southern phase of that gas pipeline and in my view Nepotistically because there is no sense in Commencing the construction from a geocutter to the canoe and then to Niger When there is no gas in a geocutter So if we have constructed the gas pipelines from the south up to a geocutter All the industries in the south would have started using the gas pipeline and the gas in it I would have been probably cheaper and the money will charge the industries would have generated enough money for us to Constructs from a geocutter to Canon and if we want to dash Niger to Niger Now we had to go and borrow from China a Lot of money as much as 2.8 billion dollars to build a gas pipeline that will not be in use Until we have gone back to do the one from the south to a geocutter. I Expect the incoming administration to have a different Priority let his priority not be to pepper them includes Let it not be to compensate the people that gave it 97% vote and whatever whatever Let it be to take decisions that are functional in the best interest of the society I'll give another illustration. We are constructing a railway track from Abuja to Mararajie in Niger Republic Probably because our president said that his cousins are still in Niger Republic and if we trouble him He will go there and if Nigeria disturb him too much in general we defend him but conduct a red track from Abuja to Mararajie Generate enough money to repay the money that we are sinking in it We are asked if we have done from Calabar to Lagos thereby connecting Porta called Aba Onisha Benin and all of those places That's track alone or Abuja to Lagos That track alone. We generate a lot of money with which we will pay for the track between Abuja Canada to Mararajie So we will not need to borrow the money that we have now borrowed To build the track between Nigeria to Mararajie Am I still being? Allow us to continue with this discussion. You are giving us very very Brilliant analysis of what could have been done right by the outgoing administration But time will not allow us to continue with it. Nick Agula you are in Abuja Time will also not allow us to ask you To give us a picture of what you're seeing there playing out. We've seen the pre inauguration lecture that took place We saw the former Kenyan president Uhuru Kenyatta there In Abuja. We saw Reverend Father Cook up. We listened to the beautiful speeches they gave I'm sure Abuja is a god with festivities. There's no doubt about that Happy inauguration is what we're wishing you. Nick and Johnson Agua. Thank you for your time Thanks for joining us on the breakfast this morning Okay, well the breakfast we'll just take a break today We're going to go on to get you the news and after that we'll open our inauguration studios We will have some analysts also talk to us about what is going on at Eagle Square this morning and elsewhere in Nigeria how the people are looking at the day of today 29th of may it's already a public holiday and people are at home Thank god for that. We were able to get to work on time. But before we go, let's leave you with this quote Robert Louis Stevenson says don't judge each day by the harvest you reap But by the seeds that you plant ask yourself what seeds are you planting today that can be reaped tomorrow By generations, maybe even unborn until we return at 9 30 with the studio or the inauguration studio I'm still young. Good luck. I am Maury. Join us up to now