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It was some stuff came out about soldier boy and all kind of stuff And I try to call on like hey, man. Hey, hey, hey come on boss. He's like man not right now, you know I'm too chill for that. I'm not gonna be speaking right now on that It's your boy DJ ices in the building. So you gonna have to wait till I'm ready to talk he get off of me with that How you doing that? I'm doing good message working. All right. Yeah, always as always. I was very very Impressed with your last interview man and just the knowledge that you were able to convey, you know that day and for our listeners to be able to Hear that I knew it was gonna be something maybe you don't see it You know right like now like I could drop that video Anytime that interview and people are gonna be able to learn from it. So thank you for that for sure man. Yeah What'd you think about it? No, it was a really dope interview like you're so correct because I love the fact You're dropping jewels and a lot of people the things that you said in that interview a lot of people didn't know And I hope that they hit you up in your inbox or you know, try to get further information from you You know, I'm not sure if anybody did hit you up after that People reach out. Okay. That's good. I was good. Wow helping out people. You know, that's what I like to do So that's good. What what what you've been up to man. That's where I started off Man getting ready to go to the Grammys. Yeah, a few people go into the Grammys I've been getting a little call saying I could even get in that thing This people got me on this and everything else, but I don't feel like I'm gonna just jump up and go right now I think I'm gonna go this why so You know, I mean for me, it's once in a have you been before? Oh, no, not at all. This will be your first time Okay, that's no sure. We got six clients nominated So you got six climb now tell us how that works. You see I like to break down and who all were who are the clients So we have Israel who's actually from Arlington the DFW area. He produced wait for you. Okay with future dragon tombs Then we have a jikai. He did luckiest man with Chris Brown They have Marco Lins and Brooke Beats. They're from Russia. I'm a Russian client. They did Big time on DJ Khaled's album. Okay, and then we have Makalo. He did Arcana Angel It's a Latin got nominated for a Latin Grammy. Awesome. Wow Congratulations, man. That's big Like like did you ever think when you first start producing beats that you would be in this? Circle like this. Not at all. I thought I would just be a producer and a DJ I was just trying to figure my figure my way out here in the DFW area and making beats Big Mike gorilla 323 back here. Shout out big Mike gorilla 323. Yeah for sure He's a head a and R2 the head a and R 88 back in the building again shout out the crew is here. We already know how you come with it It's very very structured You know what I'm saying very thought out ain't nothing being done shooting from the hip like a lot of these cats But I gotta say respect big ups So all right, so that I brought up about soldier man I was looking at a blog and I've seen your name come across and it said that soldier boy had said something about You know you or something about your work. What was that all about explain to me? What the heck? I was watching so he dropped so job like three songs and He didn't clear them with my clients. So we just took we took him down and you know, he was mad about that, you know Can't speak too much on it, but you know, we're definitely about to get paid Okay, so it's still not back up here. Oh, no, we the well the songs they're off. They're completely like taking down Yeah, right until they paste but why would somebody as big as he is do something like that He's been in the business a long time where he should know better Unfortunately the music industry is really predatory. So, you know, if you don't have people acting in good faith all the time You know people use your stuff in in our case. I manage a lot of loop makers I do manage producers too, but people use people's loops. They don't reach out to clear them and they make they make money off these kids like today 88 took down the song and The label had made $60,000 In six months off one of our clients loops. So we took down the song We did some negotiating and you know, we got a client over $7,000 today And he's still owed like another 10,000 on the master So he just closed it out and he got his first black tooth. So you So you only take down songs that are Reach a certain amount month monetarily wise. What's that threshold that you be like, okay? Now we need to try That's a great question So how we base it we just base it basically off of our client We let them know that like if it's not over like 500,000 streams, it's not really like profitable But if they want all of their money some people do You know, we'll still go take it down but let them know like it's not gonna be as profitable Yeah, cuz y'all see that they're using it and you're watching it So you're watching to see if it get momentum and start growing they like, okay Now we can you know try to do something about it because it don't make no sense You contact the label if it's not doing good, right? No, they still want they still I'm gonna make me take We don't even contact the label Yeah, because the labels are the one making the money off of all that I cleared stuff So we take it down and then you pursue, you know, we take it down then the labels reach out and Though we need to put this back up. I'll let them know they need to pay our client in advance masters And publishing to that's crazy. So you don't have to reach out. They reach out to you That's a smart way of doing it. Yeah, cuz you got the leverage now and they want this It's a usually a major song so they want it back up So that's true. They'll do whatever they want to do So, but did you ever have anybody who didn't want to make it right and it become like a lawsuit or? No, because at the end of the day is business in court. You have to like prove that you legit Legitimate That you own it But the longest case we had we just closed out it took a year and a half, okay This Latin artist named L alpha the song called 4k had it like over 500 million streams Wow And we took the song down, but it took a year and a half to like do all the negotiations Yeah, we got it like why they drag it out when they know that is it they gonna lose anyway like why no man Some people are just crazy like that. They need it. They want the money, but you know the thing to me That's so baffling is that Say, okay, you manage all these different people. How do you really see all of these things? Because they make millions or thousands and thousands of songs a day and they put them out there How do you catch every single one when someone uses it? so a lot of our clients they have people who like follow them and Like use the like younger producers so Younger producers are reach out. They'll hear something. They'll be like, hey This this artist use this and then they'll send it to me or we have like this technology We use we can upload loops into containers digital on the internet And we can scan them worldwide and it'll tell us who's using our client stuff see that that's good And then we can like you said from there like filter out the views which ones we want to go after And then claim those yeah, cuz that's the crazy thing about it cuz I'm like I know y'all have a lot and I would always wonder because this is this goes for every artist because I know that you have other artists who steal other people's music worldwide not only in the US and Redo it do different things. I'm like, how can they find out that these people are doing this thing Till it it get big and blow up and back. Isn't that your song isn't that your beat isn't that right? It's just like Katy Perry. She just got sued by the they use some gospel gospel bands music and They won like ten five ten million dollars They've been doing that forever and I don't think it's ever gonna stop mm-hmm But that's why a one music is here So that's what we do but then it's smart and not because that if I'm Unknown artists, right? I don't want to blow up. I want people to know me I'm gonna steal your beat or your whatever because everybody knows you and it might come out in the news Somewhere that my name is gonna get out there as much as yes, I'm gonna have to pay I was gonna pay regardless anyway, so might as well do it that way to get some free publicity Yeah, that's who and and The main issue is like it's not even the artist most of the time. It's really like the managers Oh, okay, like the artist is producer who like mess it up, you know for that artist and you know Whoever's loop they're using at the time or whatever got most of the time the artists don't even know No, not at all, but the producer who made the song definitely knows Play the melody on the piano. Oh No, I'm saying got you So when you Okay, so when you go to the Grammys and you said and you got to have a tux on You know, I need to really go up in that thing. I really want to show them Connections a lot of network. Yeah, I'll get on that red carpet Dance, I like to dance when I get in front of you. You know, so so I mean that's that's the part where y'all drinking it I never been so I'm pretty sure y'all gonna be drinking up there and having a good time Oh, yeah for sure. We're gonna be in a skybox with Sony. See what I'm saying. Yeah Yeah, don't try to don't don't tell everything but we know it's gonna have a good time So so who are the people that you like when you first get there? You got a link with certain people they invite y'all they sent out a list to everybody. Well, how does that work? so the song the songwriters they'll get like a Grammy invitation and Then you know, they'll set up all their information get sent their ticket in our case My client he's with all my clients are nominated. They're with beat stars and Sony So I know on the third we have like a beat stars dinner Link with some music executives up until Grammy's on the six so Wow, so are you You looking to win that thing? Yeah, for sure. It would be great to win But even just to be there as a blessing, right? Yeah, the experience. Mm-hmm. I'm just I'm going I'm definitely going this time. I might not go again Don't say that you're gonna go every single year. You're gonna have that nomination coming up every year So how excited was you little babies album is on it's only me. That's all What how did how did that even happen? So our producers Anthony Palmer they sent We send they sent beats to Angie It's little babies engineer. She's a female engineer. She actually just got nominated for female engineer the year so shout out to her But send beats to the engineers artists get on the beats do the engineers. That's how that placement came about Wow, and and how many people you got out of the country now? I don't know if she asked you that while I was 50 I have 57 clients 57 client could last time you didn't have that many. No, I had 14 57 more than what made it what made it grow like like that a lot of people need help a lot of people got their music stolen from them and Then my goal my goal with this business is to like scale the business, you know, so I make it bigger I'm about to partner up next week. I saw my deal with Nick Jarjor I'm just scale my business up to more producers and try to do something the music industry that hasn't been seen before so We got 50 plaques this year so 50 They ain't 50 plaques. Yeah, I'll I'll just not just pay them work hard work. Maybe a little dirt We did a gorilla in a little dirt to a gorilla in a quick We did three on a little dirt's new album that just came out and be a young boy young and ace Hope much of Kodak a bunch of other artists too and all of these are through the loop said me and you talk about always using those loops All do except for Israel Israel actually played the bass line that was sampled on way for you. Wow. Yeah, they took it off the genius Video he's in the background with sonic major cash pages producer from here That's them in the background if you pull up the Tim's genius live. That's them on the guitars in the background. Wow, that's crazy, man Do you think there's this? You think that that it's gonna grow some more. How many do you see it doing this year? People that'll come under that umbrella now that I got some help for sure. I'm trying to get to like a hundred Come to a hundred. Is it easy to maintain and deal with? Yeah, yeah, for sure. You just gotta stay organized stay on top everything answer everything in real time and Be good. Yeah That's the whole game because when you think about it. It's it's crazy to me how You know this music industry over time when it first came out It was hand-to-hand tangible there were things that people could do they could you could sell this and buy that and it Was hand-to-hand and people knew they would count the album the sales the it wasn't streaming at the time Y'all were young y'all didn't know nothing about this right. We had cassettes. We had eight tracks. We had we yeah, we had vinyls We had things right and as we were doing our thing You know people were basically having a good time. I don't think it was it's thought out as you guys are doing now It wasn't as widespread. Right people was making organic music with instruments That basically they picked up But now but they see back in the day they used to just get work for hires Correct. See I still mess with them type of people the people who make the loops the instrumentalists That's who were protected. I was impressed with double a he came on here. Double a double a is a double a is a He produced for NBA young boys with and he came he flew in and came on boss talk and he also produced for Kodak black But the one thing I liked about him when he came is he came here to perform and Everybody that was with him play the instrument And I thought that was live. Yeah, that's fire You know I'm saying cuz you don't really see people doing like that anymore, right? And that's what that's what kind of makes Israel so special right now like Sony really loves him. He can play literally every instrument in the room That's it kind of like when you can do that Because a lot of people can't do that now I kind of like takes over the music room because people are just so impressed with that, you know If you can play the instrument lay down chords and different progressions, you know for the artist Well, I do it one of the dopest things that I see man in the Dallas area for because we're in Dallas You see you see different producers My boy 80 80 cent behind you, you know, I'm saying shout out and Ziggy made it and all these different things he for sure. Ziggy made it You know just some dope Purdue he produced tracks for Big X as well. I know both of y'all have and it's crazy because Sauce Walker was on the track that he produced as well, you know with big eggs and I thought that was dope I mean, you know for him to be as young as he is and moving like he And and and I know you guys are all kind of you know y'all around each other at times For sure. Yeah, he actually placed that beat in that session. How long is that session? You were the one that he was talking about when he called and said you've seen the episode. Yeah When he said And you called him and told him that he was fit to jump on it. That's hard man. That's crazy Like Wow, you guys are dope man and young as hell, you know So that's that's the part that I really like that you guys are young and you know You guys are getting traction and getting to travel and getting to go to the Grammys, you know saying this is hard Man, very hard. What about like how does it like even if you get nominated? He could go as far as do they still do the MTV Awards and all that I know they have the AMAs. Yeah, the AMA is yeah, we want to AMA this year. Y'all did wait for you wait for you And DJ Khaled DJ Khaled. So do you ever meet these people? Are you just straight business a straight business straight drop? Use my client stuff. They reach out to me to clear the business I make sure we can get the highest like fees possible and make sure everything is cool So you to be their team though, right? You to be their lawyers or they team that reach out to you guys, right? Yeah, for sure. Wow. Yeah, all negotiation business negotiations You know asking for budgets, so, you know, it's funny I think when you touched on this a little bit last time like when you came on the show It was like you basically a lot of times don't get to connect with these people until it's too late So when you connect with them most of the time, it's in It's a it's really pretty much to say. Hey guys, you got to pay for this. You can't take it Right. We got it. We have a conflict and now we got it. It's usually a conflict Yeah, are you able to spin it around to a positive at any time with these guys? I always always bridge gap with the relationship so we can keep working with them because like all my clients are dope, bro I know you okay So but you gotta think about it if you come in you take something down that I got a million views of 30 million views on you take it down. Who is this dude man? What is he doing? What did you tell I don't know about a loop? I'm an artist. I don't know none about no loop What did you talk about bro? I bought this beat right from I bought this from such a such, right? Yeah, but he used to loop am I on it is this way it's going down? I know yeah, it's gonna come most of the artists is not really that in tune like that. No, not at all but their teams So every time an artist makes a song in a major label puts out the song It's a sample form and a lot of producers choose to skip over that sample form So, you know, it's really on them But have artists like that's why a soldier boy anybody would be upset because they don't know what the hell you talking about a lot of him is different because he do beats Soldier boy, I don't know man. He him is different because he do beats But he do beats so he knows yeah, he definitely knows So he's basically just doing it because he think he can just take some well He can take advantage of these kids overseas. Yeah Take advantage of kills take some pay him $50 for a beat Wow 50 make millions off a song. It's it's crazy. I'm trying to tell you What's the worst case you've seen you haven't even do it the worst you've seen today today was a record We just took down this big German record has a Big Jeremy, it's a German record, right? It's like the biggest artists in Germany. Okay, they made the song made over 200k. We took the song down to Wow, it's gonna be a good payday So he's gonna call you back. He's gonna wonder why his son why I got taken down Yeah, for sure And we have like copyright declarations like on the date that my producers made these loops and different things like that So it's literally no way around it And if you don't want to pay then we can go to litigations and litigations in the US can range It's it starts at a hundred and ninety thousand. So how do you find a loop? How do you how do you know how to is there some piece of equipment? Is there some how do we talked about earlier? Okay, I'm sorry. Yeah, we I missed it cuz I had but the detector. What is the detector? What do y'all got? We're partnered with this Chinese company site And we I can't give them the name away the NDA, but we use them to run loops and they'll return They'll scan the loops and return all the songs that have used my clients loops and we'll go Get those songs you have to pay them. They have to pay us. No, you have to pay them for finding those for using them Oh, yeah, but it's like penny is on the dollar. Okay, but it seems like you figured out how to get a ROI out of this situation For sure for sure. So all companies don't have that Luxury to have that to do that with so how does all the company mean? That company that Chinese company, but you're not given the name So are there other companies like that who do that for other? Artists to make sure that you talk about that company or my company that company I believe so we've researched it. It's like two or three more companies like okay, so there's not many it's like a They use it as a service, right? Yeah, okay, cuz I was just wondering what do everybody else use to find out to make sure okay She's am really everybody here and they'll use like she's am different things accurate is that? It's it's okay It's still misses some the stuff the program that we use it still misses some sometime But you know, it's all about just trying to get what you can get and then you know The rest of it will come to you friends like that big record somebody that knew him hurt it That's really the main the main way is for people to let y'all know. Yeah, it'll be big records. So people to hear it. Yeah Future's out. I never the song wait for you. Yeah Just give me a spiel on how you guys was even how did that even happen for us with your clients? Israel called me one day He's like, hey, bro. He's like a they use They sampled Me playing my bass guitar Way for you because the original way for you. It doesn't have that bass like the progressions in the notes It doesn't have that Bassline in way for you. It has Israel's baseline. So they sent the track outs from the genius live version over to ATL Jacob in the FNZ Art at ATL Jacob actually because FNZ made the sample And they put his bass on that's the bass line you hear throughout way for you. Wow. Yeah, so we reached out You know, we kind of had to be stiff with him and let him know like hey If you guys don't like a standard agreement, then you know what to move forward with other Other ways to handle it. So and they was able to come compensate. Yeah, for sure And Israel's Israel's like his own boss. We have a unique business situation You know, he I'm kind of like a consultant. I help him out. Yeah, so that's how that came about So just to get into the music a little bit because I know you be DJing and everything So you got your ears to the street like crazy Like when you think about the Dallas area and and and who do you see that you're liking the music that comes from? Whoever in this Dallas market that you're you're proud to be affiliated with the that makes you proud to be here in the Dallas area Right. So what artist that I'm affiliated with not even affiliated with that your ears are affiliated with But you you heard a sound that you liked. Yeah, big extra plug for sure big a chase. Am I saying the right Jace? Jace. Yeah, Jace. We did I8 for Jace. He's from Nice from for a warfare. Yeah, okay. Thanks. Oh 12 gauge, of course free free 12 gauge Who else? That's since I like since a Molly little brook is dope or splurge shout out be by Jeff Wow Who's who my mission? Yeah Bro Sama Straight up rose some out east Texas man. Get the big shot out. Yeah, Rose. I must hope you like rose some He was on here. He flipped out on here. I gotta check that. I 16 16. He went hard for a minute Yeah, and in chanting to in chanting man I hadn't had on this show, but I definitely would like to get on the show at cash page cash page I was just talking about her today. These are people that that I really think are dope, you know Her album is fire. You like it. It just came out of here recently didn't it? And you listen to the whole album. Yeah, well, did you have any work on that one? No, not at all Sonic had a lot of work on that sonics my guy, so okay, that's hard. I love Sonic's work. He's a great great producer. Wow Yeah, Mackay Yeah, they going in That's gonna be that's gonna be live. So 2023 who y'all think is gonna be who gonna break loose and Basically out of the artist Let's get the prediction right now. DJ Isis prediction on who's gonna be the hottest artist to come out of Dallas in 2023 gonna show up big Can it could be more than one or just one artist? It gotta be two one artist Just cuz I know it was about to happen Jace. Oh Oh Jace say you have some inside of view on it for sure. He's He with the right people Jase So I need to get him on Boston for sure send him over here Yeah, I think he's like he's just not 88. He's not moving around because he's on house arrest Oh, you're on house arrest I need to go over there with the with the mics and talk to him or what? Yeah, you should pull up on it But it why I need to do I need to be strapped to when I see it What are you doing Now he about to pop off for this year, but he on house arrest How are you gonna? That's all I do cuz I just gotta look at certain things like His his page. He doesn't really have anything. He's just now putting stuff on his face So he's probably just about to get off house arrest. Okay. I mean the label paid us Timely for the beat they paid Ziggy and they paid my client On time and the label he signed to like it's a really good label. Okay. Yeah, for sure. Wow So you think you so you say check Jace? Yeah, Jason big extra plug Oh, you all you oh you had to say big eggs, huh? That was the first name you said But why I meant to ask you why big X was the first name on the tip of your tongue why big X? Yes Just cuz it's all like organic Everybody when you actually buy it's it's big X is always big X. Yeah, he could really rap for sure And he has like a great team bond. So Wow big extra plug shout out. I'm gonna call it buddy, but it be only to he can rap But it's a deep voice. Yeah, he works hard works a lot. You know I'm saying so I'm gonna be looking though We don't see if somebody I don't know you might have you might have somebody come out of you know if I asked you this last year that Wasn't glow real last year that had one of the biggest songs Yeah But if I'd asked you you wouldn't never say it go real Nobody nobody would ever even say it now. We got her about to be her next biggest song. We got that for sure So that's see what I'm saying crazy. So that's what I'm saying You might have a breakout artist that'll just shut down your list. Whatever you thought. Yeah, if the right hit come The internet can't even contain it Like it we got placements with him, so we'll see I'm curious about something if glory and big X got on a song together. Do you think that'd be a hard song? Yeah, for sure the production would have to be like fire though and it would work because Big X rap song like Memphis tight beats, so I'm just thinking about both of their voices. Yeah It'll go Okay, they should make it like the club record or something. Wow How can people get a hold of you man if they're trying to highlight you my IG is official DJ ice and then my label page is a 1 Mu dot Or m u s. I see man DJ ice man 88 man and give me his name one more time because I don't mess it up You're really really 323. He taught me how to make beats taught me everything. I know for sure already man Hey, man. Thank you guys for coming on the show We're gonna do it again and again again. You're gonna stay gone. You've gone a year. Wasn't he baby? And gone a year. I'll come just do six million come back. Yeah, you come back. You see where I'm at now Because we're working I'm talking about maybe in three if you win the Grammy or something You should be coming back in about a month. Oh, yeah, we'll come back then you pull up be like we wanted We wanted to take pictures. I can pop them up and everything for sure man. I got you. So you got me Yeah, so you be seeing Ziggy on here. You be seeing all the shows Ziggy pulls up He gonna call me takes me. Yeah, I'm here. Let's do it. You like to come on boss I this is first of you ever. What about yours? Is this your first interview? Second That's hard still hey, man. Thank you guys for coming on the show. We love you DJ ice man Hey, man, and it's always gonna be respect Appreciate you for always picking up when I call. It's a real genuine relationship and it's been another great segment See how I break it down now. It's different now, sir a boss talk 101 what a boss is told shout out boss talk