 This is a special occasion Are they yelling out coffee orders? Yeah, I better my I'm gonna I should probably mute myself This I'm in a public space We're glad to have you or the host can mute me if it gets too bad the host can mute me. Yeah Yeah, great to have a year All right, we'll welcome everybody. Thank you for joining us for the reveal for wikitree challenge number four for We had our guests are this week last week So the wikitree challenge is Our biggest ongoing community event at wikitree every other week volunteers Collab collaborate to grow seven degrees of connections for a special genealogy guest star So like I mentioned last last week we had Leanne as our guest star And of course Leanne is a well-known genealogist So this is the space page That we use to collaborate for the week. You can find all the information the notes and Sharing information between all the participants that took part and Just want to mention for some who may not realize what a cc7 we say we use that term a lot So I just want to say that a cc7 is a person's number of connections on wikitree within seven degrees so a Connection is a family relationship. So this would include relationships through marriage Degrees are the measure Degrees measures the distance of the relationship. So nuclear relatives For example parents siblings spouses and children are one degree away Grandparents aunts uncles nieces and nephews in-laws and grandchildren are two degrees So they're connected through two relationships and so on So the higher your cc7 number is the fuller your branches in the tree are So that's that's just a little breakdown about the terminology that we we use for the challenge during the challenge. So Thank you. We have Greg up in the far There I'm actually in Kingston, Ontario now because I'm here for a math conference a provincial math teachers conference So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, where are you in eastern Ontario? I'm in St. Lawrence College in Kingston, Ontario There you go. Yeah, nice the king star a little bit farther away in case I get in trouble That's where all they end up Our guest star Leanne and then we have mags joining us and Peter Roberts And then on audio we have Celia Marsh That's that's our Audience is or not audience but our participants in the Reveal live cast this morning. So we'll just go ahead and get started with some interesting Binds first of all, I think we'll start with Greg. Did you want to share your screen and talk about? Sure Joseph 48 the 48 line. Sure. Sure. Can I just hide that? Am I I'm not There we go, okay So Joseph Fortier is and I just double-checked this just to make sure the second great-grandfather of Leanne or if I flip it around Leanne is the second great-grandchild of Joseph Fortier and he's the one of them on his his profile in Families, I worked on this little branch because it had a lot of French Canadian content And that's something that I've learned to deal with with with my own family and I had it was an interesting journey because I was working with two other wiki-triers Christiane Noir and Guillaume al-Dassini And between the three of us we've filled this out filled out this family Some of the information are a lot most of the information. I think Leanne already knew about but it hadn't been Put on wiki-tree and I think we found a few things that you and a few people that you didn't know about so that's exciting So I'm gonna take you through some some of the process and then we'll get to one of the interesting finds at the end of That so Joseph Fortier was born in St. Clair Dorchester in Canada, East or Bar Canada he was married twice and Leanne's line goes through his first wife Carmeline Poirier and they were married in 1884 in San Boniface and Winnipeg and They had together they had four children Mary Rosemary Carmeline Anna Fortier, which is the the one that is the direct grandmother great grandmother of Leanne And then two others two other daughters and a young son Now sadly This family met with a lot of misfortune so in fact the in 1891 1891 the youngest son Joseph Pierre Albert Fortier was born March 24th and a week later his mother Carmeline passed away So Joseph was left with four young children one just an infant of one week old and so eventually so shortly thereafter in July Why fourth in fact he married a second wife because he was the the but that joy was short lived because shortly thereafter The poor the infant Joseph Pierre he passed away at the end of July and then Had one more Sadness to the family in the middle of August the third daughter second daughter She passed away Yeah, both the young son Joseph and They both had If you think of it from the second wife's point of view She's just married and all of a sudden she's dealing with family The first wife just passed away a few months ago and all of a sudden now two young children who are in her care But eventually the new family did start having them children of their own and going from Joseph Born in 1996 all the way to So there's a number of not children there and some of these Of these 11 children of Joseph Fortier I think some of them I don't know which how many of them but some of them are new to Leanne's tree Which and partly some of them probably because their their lives were so short those records You couldn't find them, you know, you just miss out because they most of them missed the census or a number of them missed the census So let me win So Christian it was interesting. I didn't realize someone else was working on this line until one night I was working on Doing some investigating and I want to update the primary profile for Joseph Fortier and the profile was locked I think why is it locked? What's happening? And then it gave me a message Christian Wa is working on a draft and you can view only but you can't do anything. I was Christian So eventually half an hour later, I was able to go in and he had updated the research notes And we know how much we love research notes. They're so important especially in a collaboration like this But he had added the He had added some things in the profile notes and Christian. I'm so impressed with with him He's he's a better genealogist than I am because he questions everything and he wants to make sure there are sources for everything And not just assuming things are true because you know Ancestry says this certain family search says this and everyone else says this so it's got to be true He wants he wants the proof. So how do we know that Joseph Fortier born on this date? Is the same one that got married and Sam Boniface. He wants that he asked that question And then he checked he actually did the research he found there are 17 boys named Joseph Fortier who were born in that year Are we sure that we're just are we just picking dates and names out of the hat to make sure, you know if we could find details on a marriage record that would maybe help us out and So here is the marriage record that we had that we were working from this is an index So Manitoba as a website where you can actually query it for birth marriage and death records And they give you they give you an index so they give you some of the details But just scanty ones and depending on how far back they don't give you all the details you want So here's the marriage Joseph Fortier married Carmeline Poirier Perfect, and there's a date and then the place of marriage Saint B. Which we all know is Saint Boniface. I Mean that far back it was Saint Boniface, but I mean again, that's not really specific and there are no parents There are no parents listed. So How do we know which one so Christiane was right in questioning, you know, do we really know who this with this one is Luckily We found out After one of our our zoom meetings in the middle of the whole process Leanne found the man. She actually had a copy of the marriage registrar Marriage register entry and so here it is Joseph Poirier I mean I'm not so you can see it is Joseph Poirier and it gives his parents on one foot yeah And the late Antoine Fortier in the late Marie Moreau And there's Carmeline with her parents and it spelled out Saint Boniface. Not just Saint B So now we know this is the right guy The other thing that we knew was from a previous entry Danielle Lier who has done, you know has done so much with Quebec at Ancestry She did comment that a brother of his That this Joseph Poirier was a brother of Jean Baptiste Poirier. So that was also another Chink in the armor proving that this is where the family that he's from so at least we we've solidified that piece of the puzzle And then we went on and then there so the second wife I did some research on the second wife and exiled the Leblanc now she Came from Massachusetts Because her her parents were originally from Quebec But they moved to Massachusetts for a time and then eventually moved to Winnipeg which is where or the Manitoba area Which is where Joseph met her But finding her parents Again her father was married twice And finding her parents marriage certificate was tricky and here it is in Massachusetts and it's right there Joseph Leblanc But you see to fit into Massachusetts. He had to change his name or at least was recorded on on anglais So instead of Joseph Leblanc, it's Joe White And so I thought oh good Okay, that matches of course Christian had to had to question that are we sure this is the right Joseph Leblanc and He found he found the proof that it was in fact With some other records, I'm not going to go into those details and whatnot But anyways, we get back we verify the the sec the second wife and then a bunch of the children I found a number of records again in the Manitoba Index and then we were able to go and find other records to verify that those fill that out and Then here's there's a list of changes that we're done one of the thing one of the Ah Joseph's child friend for nun. This is one of the sons from the second marriage and he Took part in he enlisted in the First World War the Great War as they called it He was born in Kenora though when he was born in Kenora, it was not called Kenora Yeah, I know what the name what was called the name of the city rats Portage rats Portage Rat just wanted rat. Just one rat. We're at court. It's like I mean what a name Don't wonder they change it was specifically musk rats. Oh was it? Yes Little less creepy. Oh not quite as creepy. Okay. Why wouldn't it put musk rat? I mean, I don't know It's it's a good question, but somebody must have been one of the kids. I was working on I'd like dug into it Thinking to myself, why would you name something rat portage and also Carrying the rats or are the rats care in themselves and it actually is it's a migration path for the rats they would So people in an area call it rat portage, but it should be rat portage portage. Yes, exactly portage. That's right. Yeah Um Anyways, so I made a little bit of a I started a profile for this for this son and then Yom Aldesini filled it out and found a Filled it with it made a much more Detailed he found the the records for this son and his war records and part of that Filled out the details of how Joseph himself passed away, which is a very sad Sad Scenario he was actually Joseph the father Was Was actually killed in a house fire He went he started the fire in the morning In the stove, you know start started the stove up went out to check the horses In the stable Came back out and saw his family running out of the house because the house had had gone ablaze Went back into the house to retrieve a trunk But unfortunately got trapped inside the house and then passed away. So it's very very sad ending for poor Joseph so many tragedies for this family and yet they they came through it and many of the many of the children ended up having multiple like 20s and 30s of grandchildren and lots of offspring and one of those is our dear Leanne. So there you go And that's the forte line So when I did the research back in the late 80s and beginning of the 90s that you can see that Certificate is from 91 when I ordered it and got this. I just didn't throw it all on to A wiki tree here. And yes, I have a copy of Joseph What's his middle names the Sun's in Yes, I have his military record on nice and I did know about the Sun But a document I had seen put I The second wife As Yes, and so I was back then really confused and I just didn't ever expand on it So I knew about him. I just didn't have the right mom and then I didn't there's the other daughter the third daughter Which we need a death date for it turns out I Think I had that Okay, it wasn't on the screen. Oh Oh All right, not the one who passed away early. Yeah, the other one you're right. It's not I do need a death date for that Let me check. I'll look into that Thank you And I just wanted that while we're on the 40 a line. There's another of the Sun's that served in World War one So He was right divisional signal company Canadian engineers in France as a sapper And my grandmother so this line Had three brothers out of her Eight or nine brothers three of them served in World War two Yeah, yeah, the other son the going back to the other son the one who survived the second of the first world One interesting thing there. I noticed and I didn't actually put it in the document. I should have though but he and After he came back he played hockey and he played hockey for one for a team that At one point in 1909 won the Stanley Cup It is on here But he played for that same team that had won the Stanley Cup at one point in time. So from Yeah, it looks like somebody must have added it. There's a paragraph here During their time in canora Joseph played for the canora thistles a hockey team that had won in the Stanley Cup 1907 is that what you mean? Yeah, that's the one I meant. Yeah, the canora thistles Yes, I need a logo. Yeah Yeah Yeah, you need to do that So the next interesting find That's on here is We Sorry, I grew up in that area So in order for Francis reigning river Rainy Lake, that's where I grew up. So I know all this area well That's awesome There's a wiki page about the canora thistles in there. They're Thank you career. Oh Awesome, and apparently also a it has a logo. It's kind of cute I will look it up. Oh Yeah, we got to see we got to see that just a second. What is it? Oh Celia has the link in the chat Oh, there we go. Okay. Oh Wikipedia, okay Yeah There we go So there they are that's nice The least populated to have won the Stanley Cup ever Yeah Very cool. Nice. They were originally known as the rat portage thistles Because canora wasn't it wasn't called Were they really the rat portage or was that a joke? No, they it's on Scroll up that crazy When did it change names 1905, yeah Yep, so they were family Portage My grandmother and my grandmother were from rap portage You can't have your roots land All right, so the one of the first interesting finds that was submitted by s Stevenson Was for Roland McDonald now he's at degree nine from you But he's a notable connection for you he was a political figure and a judge so just a really interesting reading about his His life He was involved in a few well-known cases including the treason trial of Thomas David Morrison and One of the libel trials of Prime Minister William Lyon Mackenzie King One of his libel trials So it says that he also during the upper Canada rebellion He joined the military and fought in the battle of the windmill at Prescott and Earned the title lieutenant colonel. Yeah, that's cool If you scroll up, you'll see that he was born in Fort William another name change. Yes, that happened while I was Around when it became that when two cities changed and became Thunder Bay All right, and then the next will oh Okay, so next is the one of the lines that I was working on Alexander do be So he She shared and Browning shared she did a lot of research for us Scott in Scotland and looked up records and it was really great. She shared that the Dobie line was known for being weavers back going back into the early 1500s So thought that was really interesting she shared some Links on here. There's the trades house virtual museum, and then there's a book old Glasgow weavers So it just talks about that the Dobie line some more there and Yeah Next we have James Lehman at the Green Line He took a bottle of poison with him and headed for the woods. So this is a kind of a sad Interesting find that was shared and there's a new newspaper paper article May have been suicide so for a couple years they didn't know what had happened to him So he had disappeared they found the bottle of They found the bottle of poison, I think it was and That's all they found until four years later than they found his body. So kind of sad Binds are really sad because that's what gets these papers. Yeah, that's right And then We have an interesting find about Nicholas William battle. He was the first lawyer to settle in Waco Served as a district attorney for the Waco district and he was a district judge Join the Confederate army served as a lieutenant colonel and then talks more about his descendants And family there. So here's his profile There's some really interesting information about about him. So started out in Georgia and ended up in Seattle, Washington Wow So he's your he's six degrees from you Yeah, I have to figure out where Georgia Unless there are media and he didn't quite make it down to Louisiana At degree seven we have Emirates Chevrolet Correct me if I'm saying there Chevrolet Chevrolet, okay so here is her profile and She was the mother of 14 children That's So that's normal my mother is one of 16 There's a Bergeron that's got 16 that's 14 to 16 is kind of normal Median so she started at 17 years old with the first son and 45 years old when the last daughter was born So Okay, and then we have the marriage of Virginia Keston a Guess Is that how you pronounce that Greg? Yes, that's one gay Keston gay. Okay, that's one gay. Yeah So she's at CC seven the marriage of those two in April 1907 was followed three months later by the marriage of The brother her brother and her spouses sister and then 14 years later by the marriage of a Sister of hers to a brother of her spouse. So we have three That set the siblings that got very very each other. So it's kind of interesting Just to mess up the DNA results. Oh, yeah Here's her profile and then we have a Really interesting find that Celia is sharing so Four great-grandfathers were all brothers This is Edric Adams big little big. Oh, this looks fantastic on the fan chart Yes, that's right you showed this to me. Yeah Just gonna let that open while we're looking There it opened quicker than I thought it would yeah, so there it is you can see Here they are and here's the same couple and here's the same couple and here they are again That's amazing person. Yeah, that's really interesting Okay, and Alex Darian Quebec to Ariad yes that I yeah Interesting, and then the bigelos are the ones that go down to the late 1600s in Massachusetts Right. Oh, okay. Famous big a lot. You ask bigelos. Okay Were they English speakers then? Yep, it's that County that I have my Irish family arriving in to and none of them Roman Catholic and none of them French So if they stuck with the people who they could understand that would done just that would explain Yeah, yeah So one of the last finds was for Douglas Bradley Hammer and I just want to double-check We don't have what his degree away from you is but we could check that Roll easy here. Let me do that in the background He was a Logic Technician in the United States Navy during the Korean War. So that's really interesting Yeah, that's cool. It's the logic on us. Did you say? So he was intercepting stuff and trying to break the messages Yeah, 11 degrees Yeah, 11 degrees from you All right, and then Karen Lowe just shares About how she enjoyed connecting each profile she added to their ancestors in Quebec the wife of Leigh Ann's great great grandmother Odile mongrain's brother Jeannie mongrain is Rosie Rosie and Pronovoast her grandfather Louie Marie cassette shares the mitochondrial line of Greg Clark My mother's mother's mother's mother's line I Interesting is that I checked when I saw that from Karen I thought well, that's amazing So I checked and we actually go back to the very earliest known ancestor at least the earliest one that I know about So like way back to to France like so it's as distant a cousinship as possible So all these are could be found on the space page and this is also below this is where the military profiles are all entered and For the most part people were really great about adding Who you know, they added their signature so you could see who added that Thank you, and then we have some of you had created it looks like a free space page for Mary Ann mold aka Cornish Clark and Phillips. Oh that was That's Harris Phillips's line. It's a Forgotten what line it is but uh and Browning was doing it because she married like at least two times and had children with three different last names, I believe so we couldn't tell sometimes in England They got a little creative about Do not they didn't really get divorced. It was really expensive. It was oh, just wanted a bird sort of they would just sort of Stop being married to one person and be married But and we we were trying to track down it was Jane Phillips the mother of Harris Alfred or yeah mother of Alfred Harris and We found her no problem, and then we try and when English project likes to always give the Uh Like have a baptism record if at all possible and we just could not figure out her maiden name And sorry, there's a dog playing with the toy in the background so the thump thump thump noise I don't think that noise was the same as the vacuum cleaner noise. Okay There is a thump thump thump noise in the background Fun toy And of course you have your one place study, so I added the the sticker and code for that if anybody was working on that and I did go through and added to the category Going here through the one place study category. You'll see that there are six profiles in there now, so We can keep adding profiles there as we keep expanding on those lines because Inevitably people keep working all these lines, so they'll keep growing out Well, I also I think I need to go to the next The county they're not called counties in Quebec the this rcm Because that and I don't know how to say it well But there's a lot of my family in all the little areas around Ogden's Burke and Ogden's Burke is now just a cemetery So I need to extend it Yeah, and if it's if it's for you your one place study can be for a time frame So you can have it. That's true focus on a specific time frame. I have actually two One place studies that are for ghost towns, so they are ones for like 40 years and yeah It kind of it's nice because it keeps it The focus and team. Yeah All right, so let's show you some maps and some Graphics for your challenge. Oh, but first I did wanted to share we had 35 participants taken part and You can see that they added 804 profiles to your Wow, CC seven and I know that there were some people that were taking part that hadn't actually signed up But they were they were also helping to add so There were more than that actually added to to the lines it so your your CC seven is Let's see. I think it I think that's what this is a 1368 Yeah, so now it's 1380. That's what I was talking about so the score sheet stopped on Thursday the last week, but you can see it it still increased 12 more since then Well, that's what I was talking about people will keep adding to it and we are ninth cousins That yeah, like we talked about on some of the chats this this got I Started out being your 11th cousin one times removed and now I'm ninth cousins with yes, that's fun So we took we took the Seven I think it was Ancestors and we grabbed snapshots of Their CC seven or their seven degrees chart just to show you how they increased each one each ancestor So I'm just gonna kind of take you through This is my great-grandfather my yeah Alexander great-grandfather. Yeah, Alexander real. Is it real? roll roll That's a roll roll roll your boat. Yeah Across the rat portage across the Here's where he started and then there's where he's ending so a major a freeze Yes, because it's French Canadian Roman Catholic and they all have 14 and 16 kids Yeah The dead get higher CC numbers, too. It's yeah, yep You could put that on your wall and throw darts at it Here's the map Seven degrees of with so all of those people that were on that CC seven that we just looked at for row The this is the migration pattern basically for all those people within seven Some of those the So the one which is off the coast of Africa that is for people who died at sea or were born at sea Ah, and some of the other ones the map is really good, but it people used weird Not contractions with abbreviations Sometimes the map will not know where they actually belong and put them In Tanzania and stuff like that so they really you're like, oh my gosh, that's so weird It might be an outlier. It might not every once in a while these I'd be like, oh, that's an outlier. Oh, no, oh So those need to be up like in the travel path somewhere in the migration path The people who died at sea Yeah, you can see like yeah, those are sort of en route places the ones at sea Okay, so the blue dots represent death death and red dots first Okay, because you're worm at birth. So you're red-hot and then after You're a red hot rat All those ones the ones that are in Puerto Rico when I looked I looked at one of them on the map and those are all It's because it's listed as Canada lower Canada. So that's lower lower lower really low Canada And this is his wife and a 40 a yes Yeah, so here's where she starts 2,149 Over I can't read that because it's so small Ten thousand three hundred nine. Oh, yes Yeah, I had to redo that three times because the number was I started with just 2,000 profiles. Oh, no, that's not enough 5,000. That's not enough over 10,000 You broke you broke the map broke the map Well, all the people that volunteered to get this all connected broke the map I Like Dawson Creek you con I got to find out who that is. Yeah, I see that I was gonna say look you have one up in the Northwest Territories. Yeah, yeah Gold mining probably. Yeah, that one right there. Yeah During that I'm researching a non family member who was up there. So, yeah. Oh, well now you may know why the family member was up there Oh, here's James McKellar Mac killer Starting out and then ending Not as big I'm in here, but look at look at the Concentration there in North America, that's really interesting Somebody went to Hawaii. Good for that. I was born in Hawaii. Why did they leave? So if you look at that on the actual map, you can click on the person and it will drill down I'm excited and you can pull over to wiki tree and look at all the details Yeah, and I'll have I'll I'll show you that next. I just want to finish these Macfajon yeah, there she is to start 224 She is 1554 Yeah, and there's her map it's the Russia Joseph Dowd To start and then there he is To end and there's his map You got somebody over here in Vietnam. So that's interesting in Australia Mm-hmm. Yeah, and yeah, we'll look at this one clear up here at the end of Mackenzie. Well, yeah, that too Also, yeah, can be forever mm-hmm Out of the at Mackenzie there. Uh-huh. Was that doubt somebody was born up there Yeah, this is um, this is Ireland. Yes. He was that might Sorry, but the blue dot up in the top might be uh, I think they do geographic center of the country If you just have Canada for example So that's why there's always a red one. That's why there's no blue election Up at the top there, right this one. Is this the one you're talking about? Yeah, I think that's like the geographic center of the country. So that's where they So if somebody just put Canada in the location, yeah, that's right. Yeah, because I have somewhere to pin point Not really yellow nine. I Mean it might be but it might also just be Now this person I knew she died at age 97 15 at the time we lived close together. I knew her really well That's a wonderful so she started out the week with two thousand six hundred and twenty nine connections and Oh, she dropped so this will happen. Oh this can happen when uh Uh wrong people maybe a mistake is found and so they have a trim that part of the tree They're correcting they're correcting and they're making the tree healthy with the tree Making it healthier And here's her map Alright and so now we go to Sorenson we in 3521 I keep getting those numbers mixed up and here's your starting Showing 66 connections though. You did have a hundred and twenty-three, but this this is only going to show you the ones that are Public right great. Yeah, so that's what the variant the difference is between the chief numbers there And then spread out because those are the different lines. I assume The degrees out. Yeah Yeah, and then there you are So that's awesome to see that I love I love these maps and Graphics that we get out of the different tools that the the team members of volunteers created and Then here's your migration pattern map Okay, so this is within seven degrees of you Nice, and again, it could be not just a family or relationship. So it could be an in-law of an in-law so When we go back to the space page and you go go down to the section on locations This was updated. This is CC 7 of you. So it's a breakdown by country of which there were 15 I believe and then For this, you know, how many states we had 28 states and the counties in Scotland There were 11 different counties in Scotland So just kind of gives you the breakout By country wheels to nice. Yeah, whales Norway Mexico Russia Ireland Germany you are truly a wiki tree mutt Belgium Austria Australia So it's a lot of fun. I'd love to see you where the challenge takes us We we start out, you know, sometimes just in a few states or a few provinces and then we quickly just Quickly go to other places Around the world. So it's really fun to see that happen. Oh Only eight provinces Yes, who do we miss? Merrick PEI Was not on there, right? Nunavut none of the territories are mentioned. No territories. So PEI and Newfoundland Yeah, there we go And they and they might be there like Celia was mentioning if somebody didn't know for sure They could have just put Canada and so we wouldn't we wouldn't have that information and this is the kids something that's available From wiki tree plus so if we go over to wiki tree plus and we put in the tech search CC7 equals your wiki tree ID and we say get profiles This gives us all the profiles within CC7 of you and this is where we get that map the link to that map We were looking at and we were saying You can drill down Into the locations and check it out so if we scroll into drill down into these Locations all those of Canadians who got cold and went to United States. Yeah, that's right And then spread So if we drill way down You can see or they all went up there and got cold and died. I mean Yeah, so this will show you the profiles that are in this location and so then you could Oh, there's jack white Yeah, that's right jack white See yeah You can see they just had canada as their death. Did they? Okay, you just click on one it'll show up on that. Yeah, death place canada That's why the blue it's blue And then the ones the red dots the birth location canada Well canada est So but that's uh Alash created wiki tree plus for us and this is just one of the aspects of it that we just love Really get a lot out of the database of wiki tree so Leanne has met a lush at rooster Yeah, and then um, if you go down to the bottom of this page You can do group by the field and this is how I got that information you can group by uh birth country Or death country and so that'll give you that information about What which countries? And the breakout You can also do it by region which is county or Yeah, so that's how that works for state So I can do that Go back rcm and find everybody Who had anything I need to do that You can also do you can uh Do your cc7 and just look for people that say they were born and you can do a text search and look for kabeck or you know A a single last name stuff like that. There's lots of fine tuning of the searches you can do I have lots of documents because when I did this research originally I of course I got my sources by printed out the sources. So I have a lot of french documents In non-french that sometime I can upload Great And any images you have of your ancestors too, that'd be great right so uh and uh browning I was just mentioning earlier on in the broadcast about how she got records for us from scotland's people and They've given us permission to show these images because we have the copyright information there at the top so she's Got these documents for you alexander mclean tenant and Yeah, so It's a birth record for donald mclean Wow I don't see it I'm on the scene the hockey knight in canada theme right now mclean Well, and I've got you know some hockey player Yes, that's right I want to jump back I want to jump back to when There was a line that matched greg's mitochondrial dna and that line be put into wiki tree That that there's a mitochondrial dna match greg that with you Oh, it is actually karen recognized it because when she was on that ancestors profile My name is listed as a mitochondrial match But but I went to your profile and I didn't I didn't see any other mitochondrial dna You'd have to look the other way around. Yeah, you have to look at the ancestors. Yeah There's only one mitochondrial line in your matrilineal line. That's right. Yeah Yeah, but I don't like that doesn't show all of the all of the people on wiki tree that I matched to But if you go to oh, it's the same mitochondrial dna, but there's not a paper trail Oh Now if there was a paper trail it would show up If you look on the link for the person because greg's doesn't list everyone that he's matched to right But if you go on to that person's page like if if I was if I went to greg's Grandmother and I was it would say greg shares 12.5 percent Of her dna Wiki tree if there's a matrilineal line connecting the two then it will show up on on greg's profile But so there's not a there's not a paper trail connecting them. Oh It's the ancestor that I was related to but the that that particular line may not have A daughter connection who's tested may not have connections. Yeah Right, uh, okay But it showed that so there's not they're Okay, so there's not a mitochondrial dna tester. Okay. I got it. Yes. Yeah, it's not a mistake But thank you very much for looking for all the bugs No, but that's an interesting point because yeah because it was on an ancestor's page That it showed up that I was a connection Ah, yeah That ancestor didn't have a daughter's daughter's daughter's daughter who did another mitochondrial test But if we there was then that daughter would also show up on mine as a mitochondrial. Yeah, got it Make sense. Yeah So, um, I'll share with you leon the links to these Images so you have access to them Those are fun to read It's not bad I've seen worse Yeah So thank you and browning for uh doing the The research on these and pulling the records for us to really appreciate it Yes, thank you so much. That is so cool Yeah, this one is the sanderson uh john sanderson mason married elizabeth Yeah, that's who that named daughter of agnes and john Yeah, so And she mentioned there's lots of sanderson's that's quite a common scottish name Because they were all masons, I think yeah, they're masons That's interesting because the in aroya where I Live the the company that owns the that makes all the tombstones is the sanderson monument company They're probably relating probably And here's the alexander dobby weaver marrying elizabeth the The scottland's people site says reary, but she thinks it might be Uh, what did she say on the Rearton rosy roby roby Russia Let's go back to your profile and go ancestors Like this line Here we go should be the color line Oh, no, it's the town's um, okay Yeah, so she had a Research note here That her maiden name might be benny rather than reary um because It's really it's hard to read here so Both from glasgow, so It looks like whoever was writing it decided to change it as they were writing it. Yeah But there's their marriage and a record entry And then I think this is Here we go sanderson records Aren't they awesome? I just love I can look at these there's a sanderson. Yeah sanderson mason And elizabeth dobby And so this is mentioning that she's the daughter of alexander dobby weaver So it's their marriage record So it was a weaver It's interesting that somebody with adobe surname would be a weaver because you know if they you even give adobe as a sock They they feel empowered Nice Nice harry potter reference there. Good. Sorry. Sorry I was waiting Oh, we had so much fun, uh liad on your week, uh, just like I said, there were so many participants that helped out Even ones that weren't on the score sheet We we just really had a lot of fun It was great that you were able to join us for the different zoom chats. Yeah, that's very nice. I'll get these images to you Thank you so much to everybody because peter's asked me for the last five years Please put it up there You still didn't do it peter. I just got the pedigree part, but at least now it's done That's so wrong what you just said Yeah, and I think I think you got your, uh, your badge your, uh, Connections badge. Yeah Yeah Oh, no, not yet One you got your one k. Yeah, because you started out one two three was your starting number Yeah, you got your one k badge. And so we'll we'll get you there Oh, there you go. John tider nice Yes, usually if it's an american it's through the bagelos. Yeah, but I'm related to But john's irish. It's not through the doubts Interesting, but john has connections everywhere. Yes. He does here in canada. He's got appalachian connections. Yeah Yeah, did you see all the all the sheet that uh, the states there were some appalachian states there But she's got connections too Well, doesn't it go all the way to massachusetts? Pennsylvania and Ohio So the mountains go all the way actually up to uh, new Nova scotia but the, uh Appalachia itself the area Yeah, it's it's as a like cultural area It's uh, yeah, pennsylvania parts of pennsylvania and south In parts of ohia too Yeah, and all the way to alabama. So there's it's a social economic Declaration because they wanted to help the people in the the backwoods areas of these specific mountain areas So that's why yeah, and you got out. You got southern Uh, southeastern, uh, united states. You got alabama. You got georgia So, yeah When louisiana because the cave, I have cousins that are in louisiana All right. Well, it looks like we need to add them I think so Yeah Well, thank you so much everybody for joining us for the reveal Thank you leon All right. Well, uh, I think the next challenge that's coming up is for Uh Randy siever is up next and that starts tomorrow So if you haven't signed up, I love randy Sign up for that teller just starts tomorrow everybody Okay, and not only is Is randy a genealogist. He is a huge promoter and somebody who supports wiki tree out in the world too Yeah, yeah Great and his reveal will be basic stein at 8 p.m. Eastern, so Yeah, you say this is a week, but it's been two Yeah, yeah, but the the The main focus of the work is in a week Is it like in seven days like I said if you saw it the people are still working on your tree's the tree though We can all keep it increasing That is so cool. Thank you started out a rabbit hole You're welcome. We had so much fun All right, we'll see y'all around the tree. Thanks for joining Bye