 So now let's talk a little bit about the future vertical lift effort and the joint multi-role tech demonstration. So how important do you think the future vertical lift initiative is going to be and what are some challenges or opportunities that it faces in the future? I were a company that was either a prime or a mezzanine contractor in this business. I would regard this as an opportunity to do some technology development on the government's dime and I'd put all of my internal research cash into something completely different because the industrial and procurement future is probably not going to look even remotely like what FVL envisages. So in other words I would be looking at opportunities for yet another iteration of the current platforms. And what kind of impacts do you think like the future vertical lift will have on rotor craft development and performance and how that's going to affect the health of the rotor craft industry? You know there are actually two reasons that we haven't seen a whole lot of progress in helicopter speeds or configuration over the past half century. One is the more compelling value associated with upgrades courtesy of all these other components below the surface of the aircraft. But another is frankly we don't really know the way forward and we've been trying for 50 years. We've tried every configuration. Very little has worked. I mean total orders are as close as it's come and there's one and a half customers. Everything else we just don't know. JMRTD is roughly a five year time horizon or less to decide the optimal way forward. I don't buy that for a minute. If there is an optimal way forward it's not going to be in the next four or five years. When I look at JMR I see a really good opportunity to demonstrate a few new prototypes that might be rather exciting in terms of actually metal getting cut in large quantities and procurement taking place to fill existing missions and roles. I just don't see it under any circumstances. I mean it's kind of ironic the place that the Sikorsky folks have put most of the resources have been in the scout attack mission. They've done great work, admirable work coming up with the S97 Raider as part of their X2 program. Having said that, that is the market segment I feel most skittish about because of the advent of drones. Every other segment of the rotor craft industry probably keep going with the piloted, internally piloted aircraft but at the scout that mission sort of seems to be going away. And as a result I'm not so sure what that is currently envisaged under JMRTD results in something that is actually executable, procureable for one of those missions. So how about the future vertical lift ultra? And how do you think that fits into the FVL family as a whole and what does it mean for the rotor craft industrial base? You know what's sort of intriguing is if you do have success with JMRTD not in four years but pick a number you like really, does it scale down? Can it be scaled down? In other words, can you go from, we were kidding about 3,000, 4,000, can we just buy for one segment? And maybe you look at that and you'd say, you know, swapping out the CH-47 which is a 50 year old design, 60 or 70 at that point for something that's faster and being able to take a platoon plus at faster speeds, that value proposition might be there. So can you turn this into a program that merely caters to one segment of the requirements market? That'll be intriguing to watch. Thank you so much for this interview. Pleasure. Thank you.