 So, the first thing I'm going to do, first of all I'll call the meeting to order. And my name is Charlie Croskett, I'm chair of the finance committee. And the first thing we'll do is take attendance. Grant Givian. Here. In person. James Lindell. John Ellis. Kyle Healy. Brian Beck. Aretha Daria. Yes. Sophie Migliazo. Here. Jonathan Wallach. Shailene Pocrus. Darrell Harmer. Here. Andy LaCorte. Here. Alan Jones. George Cozer. Bill Keller. I'm here. Thank you. Al Tosti. Here. Christine Deschler. Here. Here. We have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11. Well members present. So we have a corn. So first thing is we have three minutes that were distributed. I've read them. They looked complete and to the point. I don't know if you can see any questions or editing or comments on the minutes. So a motion to approve the minutes. Those three minutes of May. 16th, 18th and 25th. 16 May, 16th, 18th and 25th. The motion to approve those minutes is in order. Okay. So it's been moved and seconded. I will take a vote on the minutes. Grant Givian. Yes. I don't know. I don't know. Sophie. Yes. Darrell Harmer. I felt like I was there. Staining. Annie. Yes. Alan Jones. Yes. Bill Keller. Yes. Yes. Christine. Yes. Yes. Yes. The minutes were approved. Thank you very much. So the first and. Maybe I move business tonight. Is the. Interest of our town. Comptroller to have us review and vote upon. End of the year transfers. So either can we turn the floor over to you to explain what you've said to the committee. Sure. Good evening, everyone. I believe you received the memo. So I'm not going to cover every bullet this year. It's kind of light in terms of. The request are kind of light in terms of departments. We only two departments requesting transfers. The town manager is requesting $10,000 to cover. The vacation payout. And then we have the fire department. This is a little more. A little more. Significant. The request. They need $200,000. This is broken out in. $152,000 for salaries. And $48,000 for the expenses. The main reasons for this. Shortage is. And this on the side is because they had. Eight employees on extended leave. They had five employees in injured leave. And they also have eight. Vacancies. And on the expense side, they. They actually had a medical settlement. They had to pay $63,000. To. Retire. Five fighters who, five fighters who retired 30 years ago. And he had a knee replacement. And they settled on $63,000. And that's about it. If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer. Any questions for. The controller. The eight vacant positions there. I assume is that money still bet still in the budget. And we'll revert to the general fund. Or is this 200,000 net of already using all that money. So everything gets account as accounted for up until today. The only month. That weren't charged is 80% of the payroll of the last week of this. Of this fiscal year. There isn't turned back because we actually covered this positions and some of the, the people that we hired. They were getting. So it's kind of like a double hit. They were hired. We were paying. Salary. And we also sent them to the academy to be trained. So this positions had to be filled with overtime. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions for. Yeah. So, you know, I have a question. It says on your memo that there were 30 employees out on COVID leave at various times throughout the year. Didn't we get COVID funding from the federal government? Yep, we did. And we still, we used all the COVID funding. We used $4 million to all together. And the whole. In the town. And this is not. This is independent of the $10 million that we got. From the. American recovery plan act or whatever it's called. So we only got $4 million in CARES money. And then we got $36 million separate on ARPA money. But the $4 million was spent over two fiscal years. And it did not cover this. These 30 employees. Some of it was covered, but not all of it. So. So why. I sent you an email today asking whether or not, what we expected to get in. In certified free cash in September. And. And why we're not just transferring this money out of the. That would be going into free cash at the end of the year. So it doesn't matter where we take the money, whether we take the money from the reserve fund or with, whether we take it from other departments that have a surplus. The, the effect is going to be on the free cash is going to be the same. The money will be spent. So what if we don't take it from the reserve fund and we, we turn it to the free cash. And if we take it from the other department, we're going to take it from the reserve fund. We turn it to the free cash. And if we take it from the other departments, we'll turn back less to the free cash. Typically, I understand that I mean, I've been here three years and we've always done it through the. Reserve fund transfers. And I understand that it's the, it's always been done this way in island and not from the department from the surplus of other departments. But I'm not sure that's the case. We have transferred money from, for example, expenses, the personnel, et cetera, inside departments at the end of the year. But, but right. If it comes from the departments or where there comes from free cash, if it comes from the departments, the free cash back, I'm sorry, the reserve fund back in the free cash will be higher. So it's, it doesn't make any difference. And everything that's not spent closes to the free cash. The only difference is that if we take it from the other departments, we need the departments that they are, they give up the funds. We need their written approval. And it also has to be done through the select board and with the approval of the fine. Fine. As well. Okay. Thank you. So is there, are there any further questions for you on the reserve fund transfers? Make a comment before we vote. Yeah. We usually have a motion in the discussions. I don't know when you want me to do it. You know, my only note is, and this goes before your time. But so I'm going to accept this. Like explanation and everything, but I do want to know that prior to Bob Jefferson being fire chief, the fire department had a real problem coming in the under budget or in budget every year. They had these annual reserve fund transfers. And then the chief retires. And we're immediately back to reserve fund transfers. So I can accept it to some degree that this is possibly a one time issue. But if I really hope we don't have, we're not doing this again next year. And with the fire department like this truly is extraordinary. And it's not a return to how it used to be. Just my comment. Yeah, I actually, I looked at the reports for fiscal year 20 and fiscal year 21. And I see that the fire turned back in, in 20, they turned back $120,000. And in fiscal year 21, they turned back $198,000. This is the first time I've been here that they, they, they came in short. Agreed. You went back before Bob Jefferson. It was like consistent overrun. I'm going to watch out for it. Yep. Any other questions? Bob was never short. Comments. Any other questions or comments? So a motion is in order. Except the recommended request of. Comptroller for total transfer from the reserve fund of $210,000 to cover $48,000 in expenses and $162,000 in salaries. So moved. Did you say 162? I think it was 152. It says it's 152 from fire, but it's 10,000 from the manager. Okay. It's up to 162,000. Okay. So has it been moved and seconded? Any further questions or comments? Hearing none. We'll take a vote. Grant. Yes. Aretha Daria. Yes. Sophie. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Any record. Yes. Jones. Yes. Bill Keller. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Dean Carmen. Yes. And David McKenna. I'm sure it's someplace. David here. Yeah. David McKenna. He says yes. David McKenna. Yes. Okay. Thank you very much. I'll sign it and I'll scan it and send it to you tomorrow. Okay. Don't go away. Yes. I just wanted to be the 4 million in CARES money. That's been spent. Is there, can we get an accounting of where all that money went? Yeah, sure. I can give you reports. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. One way to get that. I'm sorry. Might we get that? How about next week? That'd be fine. Okay. Thank you. Allen. Are you from Buddha or pest? Did you go to Budapest or Bucharest? You said Bucharest. Sorry. My mistake. Hungry. Oh, okay. Not so jealous then. I'm not jealous. That's it. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm not jealous. That's it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay. So. Oh, That was a good trip. It's weird that Buddha is on one side and pest is on the other. They brought it together. So like Boston game. Did you go to the bats? No. Didn't have a bathing suit. Okay. So the next item on the agenda is the, um, election of officers for next year beginning July 1st. So, um, Tara. Yes. On nominations. Uh, yes. So, um, can everyone see my screen? No. Hold on. Unless we all log in on. Yeah. Hold on a sec. Let me try to. Do this here. I see just as well. Well, That's not going to help a lot of. Wait for it. Do we have that as a document somewhere? No. I mean, it's in the drive. You know what actually. Yeah. Well, you know what, if someone else wants to share their screen. In the zoom meeting. I can show them where it. Where it is. Send it to everyone. Yeah. I'll send it to everyone right now. Can we just write it on the board? Like in the old. Yeah, I could do that. Where's the board? They can't see it on the screen. Oh, right. Right. Okay. Yeah. Well, can you all on this on the virtual zoom? See my screen. They can see it. So I can just write it up on the board. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's fine. We're not. I get up at 230. Why are you getting. like all the emails, like send them at six and then everyone thought it was up to six or whatever. I just had to be there. So I turned the clock on my computer or something. It's hard work. Scheduling. Actually though, a woman says, you know, 1922. I got programmed to wake up at 3 o'clock in the morning. So I had a phone. Oh my God. I'm sorry. What am I going to do? So hot. How. Our tour went from Amsterdam to Louis best. 15 days. 68 walks. Yeah. It's unbelievable. I just sent it. And I will also write it on the board. Actually, I don't know if we're supposed to write on that board because it looks like a. Yeah, you can write on it. Are you sure? Yeah. It looks like a smart book. Do you see the pins? Oh, okay. Try it on the bottom. Yeah. This is an arm building. You know what? I don't think the officer in this building is going to shoot her over writing on the screen. I don't think that this is a. It's just, it's just like an eraser. It's not like a board. All right. So nevermind. Okay. Yeah. I can just announce it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, so far for. Officer nominations, we've received for chair. Christine Dashler, Dean Carmen. And Annie LaCorte. And then for vice chair, we've seen, we've received. Christine Dashler, Dean Carmen. Annie LaCorte, Alan Jones, George Cozer and Daryl Harmer. Does anyone else have any other nominations? That they would like to share before nominations are closed. That's the next. Okay. So no more nominations. So nominations are closed. Yes. Yes. So at this point, anyone who has been nominated now has the opportunity to decline their nomination. Okay. So Dean is withdrawing his nomination from both. Chair and vice chair. Okay. So. What's that? I need to withdraw my nomination from chair, but I would like to remain as nominated to be a vice chair. Okay. So to reiterate that for everyone. For chair, we have Christine Dashler as a candidate for vice chair. We have Annie LaCorte. Alan Jones, George Cozer and Daryl Harmer. We also have Christine Dashler, but we're going to vote on chair first. So she'd be removed. If she wins this now on. She could step down. That's true. Okay. Okay. So we have. So. We were going to do a. Confidential paper vote, but I think if we have one candidate. We can do a voice vote. Yeah. Go ahead. Speech. Okay. Yeah. So, okay. So nominations are closed. Okay. So we're going to do it with what raised hands or something. Just, yeah. All in favor of. Okay. So all in favor of Christine Dashler as chair of the finance committee. Raise your hand to zoom or Dave, you can just raise your hand. I don't. Oh yeah, there's Christine's hand. Okay. Great. Okay. Great. Okay. So. Congratulations. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you all. Very humble. Okay. So the next one, we will actually do. So. Balance. Let me do the following here. We've got those little. Had a paper. So the remote people can send an email to Tara. I'm going to give each person three sheets of paper. Does everyone on zoom have my personal email address? The Gmail. Tara W Bradley at Gmail. Cool. Does everyone have a pen? Oh, perfect. I have some writing utensils. I could send you an email. Yes. You could send me an email. I would like to share a pen with someone. What do we do with TVs? Because they're, they're. Sorry. What's your email? It's a, it's Tara W Bradley. At Gmail. I can just send you an email, Darrell. Okay. Send you an email. Yes. Send me an email. I would like to share a pen with someone. I would share. I would share. What do we do with TVs? Because they're. Sorry. What's your email? It's a, it's Tara W. Bradley. I would like to share a pen with someone. I would like to share a pen with someone. I would like to share a pen with someone. I would like to share an email, Darrell. One name on each. One name on each sheet. Yeah. That's what you say. Oh, I see what you're doing there. Okay. Yeah. Darrell. Allen. And George Crocer, right? Right. Yes. Four options. Three seats. The word. Still attached to spend a little. No one can email me. Yes. So who are the, who are the candidates now? Darrell, George, Alan Jones and Annie. Actually, can I have some paper for them? Where is the ballot box? Right here. Yeah. They're emailing me. Well, I guess I can just do it. Thanks. Okay. You sent the email. Yeah. Yeah. Just missed. What's that? Who's that there? Thank you. Thank you. Right here. Thank you. Right here. Thank you. Okay. Let me just. Let me just grab a pen. Sorry. This is kind of a. Kind of a mess here. You gathered that as well organized. Okay. I'm ready. I just sent mine. Oh, I'll go in the other room. Yeah, but it's going to be on the. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, we have to finish my A dare this power has a concert. No. Oh, yeah, all the way down, all the way from Instagram, down the line, off in the main canals. Do we know that George Cozer wants this position? No. That'll teach him to not show up. That was like, you know, he was the one talking about being retired and stuff. So look, public company, public company, the word governing 101, when they both got it every time, told me in the browser. Because it will return from the browser on the audience. It is a time-monitored engine, right? Any problem? It's the same thing here. Awesome. How are you? 1,100? That's what you want. That's, I just want to say out, it's view of being a son, it's the view of being a son. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm sure you did. You don't have to do stuff off. The trick is, the trick is to First of all, one of the things I want to say is, gee, do we go by the road bridge of Lagann? Yeah, or one or two. Well, the reason we're going to Lagann is just a couple pillars in that trail. And yes, you said we'll go by the three points to scratch that. Which bridge was this? What bridge? The bridge of Lagann. Oh, the one's the L.A. Scott. Yeah, great movie. I'm sorry? That was a great movie. Yeah. There's a movie? Bridge too far. No, that was the British paratrooper effort. I know. Right, Martin Gruden. I feel like I spent my whole childhood watching old World War II movies. Well, they weren't old at the time, but I thought they were old because I was 10 on the four puffin. Like I could probably name 10 films that I saw. We're all about World War II on the four puffin. Okay, I'm going to recap them just really quick. Just to make sure. How close is it? I was close enough. I just want to be, you know, I just want to be thorough. Okay, it's only eight o'clock at the end of the hour. Mr. Surrey, say, we just need you to find 10 more votes. I was going to say, can I write down a group of power that some people would have liked to have? Just sway it off. Yeah. I love watching old World War II movies that were made during the war. Some of them are really interesting. They don't meet the politically correct. No, but they show the political. Even the cartoons were. What is interesting, because it's of Facebook, the TAM, you know, fighting off the Japanese at a bridge. Everybody died. But in terms of what? No, this is the TAM, the movie for TAM. It was Robert Taylor. You know, they got knocked off one at a time. But if you're looking at racial aspects of a movie, this was really interesting to watch. This is one black guy in South African, you know, trooper or something like that. And he's always separate. You know, he's firing his guns separately from the other guys who are firing their guns. That's because when this movie is played in the South, he's eliminated. I'm not sure, but he's maybe not eliminated, but de-emphasized when they had Wina Horne sing in other movies, she was always separate. So when the movies were made down south, they were cut back. It's, it's like two, three days in Normandy last month. And I want to go back to see if the World War II so Yes. Now, do you want to like a tour or did you do it yourself? No, we did a tour. We decided we liked to do most of the things ourselves. This one was a tour. We got a very high recommended tour group. So we got up to Bayer, Bayer, yeah. And then from there, it was going to hold a favorite movie tonight of two of our guys. You know, in certain movies, there's also, you know, these things from books. Okay, we have a runoff. We have a runoff. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. So Alan Jones won, Gerald Harmer won. And we have eight and eight for La Courte and Cozer. So we need to do it again. Right? Okay. So I have 35 and there's one person I know who only voted for two people. So do you know who it is? We can force them to vote. Um, so do we want to do it again between the two? Okay, let's get some more sticky notes around. Okay. So everyone on Zoom, it's, if you could just send me an email with either Annie La Courte's name or Joer, Cozer's name for the special runoff thing we're doing now. Okay. Hello. Bye. Yep. Bye. Annie, that one. Yep. Everybody else here. I try not to. Yeah. Thank you. I'm honest, if you don't, on behalf of Dave, thank you. Here's your pen back. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. Oh, thanks. Yeah. Thank you. Next time we'll do ranked choices. That's too large. Repeat on nine o'clock. Thank you. Not necessary. Is that everyone in person? You got it. Okay. And then, um, I believe I am still waiting for one person online to do it. No, I'm not going to do it. I'm going to wait for another one. So there's that. There was both the same time, so that's sort of a problem. So Dave, that's a nice piece to say. Also, I'm going to have your last, uh, the last week of the first one. Yeah, me too. Of course, it doesn't have all the pressure of the police. Oh, I know. You know, we're discussing, uh, so much more. Enterprise. Perhaps the 3D that we do on 2D. So how are you doing? I'm doing okay. But I know that was going to be the last chin to get to the house. I wish they could have done that. We did a lot of work on the house. We did a lot of work on the house. Like tools done. Yeah, that's fun. Also, we have the sound shift. I'm going to read it this time. Oh, we'll get you that. Yeah, we'll get you that. Yeah, we'll get you that. We'll get you that. We'll get you that. Yeah, oh, we'll get you that. Not at the same place. 15 minutes after we got there. But are you going to cave or a ranch? Can you get that right? Neither of us. We have a cave. We'll turn it into a gourmet wall. Oh, the grave. Okay. 20 years ago. Let's correct that. It's a good place. That one was really nice. Oh, the view. It was a beautiful night. It was. It may have been a cave. Oh, I don't know how long ago that was. Yeah, it was. Yeah, yeah. If it was during the over, did you think there was something? You may have seen it. We were still looking. I think it could be primarily. But it's a fully allowed. But you're going to get the okay thing, whatever. Take out the book or hang out. I think it was a cave when I was there. The place next door. And you haven't been in my house for a long time, I think it was around a time. Did you have that in this process? Is that? Oh gosh, no, we've already, we've already done the upstairs. I mean, yeah. I think so. I care a lot. It's quite a while. Yeah. Okay. I did mind not miss the beach. We need the girls. I don't know if it was 2006 or 2007. Okay. We have a result now. It's Annie. Okay. Congratulations. Thank you. We're good. Okay. We didn't tell George. He might not want it. He didn't get what he didn't want. Congratulations. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yes. Okay. So we have voted for officers. We've approved the minutes. And we have spent 210,000. 200. How much did we vote on that? 162. 160,000. Where's that? 200. 200, okay. Okay. And the one on the left side is 262. 262. Yeah. And I want to hope because we didn't spend a large chunk of that $4 million on stuff that we didn't need to. Oh. Are you kidding? Probably half of it's been spent on stuff we didn't need. So we could have spent more. Okay. So I think our business this evening is over. It's had to be centered on certain things. Yes. Before we vote. Okay. Okay. People have a clue. Yeah. Justine. Can we just because... So let me tell you why I'm going to say it. So I'm hearing... I'm starting to get rumbling back. It's just like we're maybe thinking about a spring of 2023 override. And the people who are going to plan the override are almost certainly not going to wait until the spring to start working on it. To start working on it now. So over the summer. So can we, and as we know, let's just give you tradition, right? They're going to ask the chair, the finance committee and the vice chairs, someone to be a co-chair in the campaign. So just around the same page. Can we just go over the rules of supporting candidates versus supporting overracks? Because one's okay and one's not. And I'm going to draw on the same page. So the... First of all, I honestly can't recall. I think we did. We've always voted as a committee, right? Yes. On whether or not we supported an override position. Right. Yeah. And there's no restriction. And by the way, it's a practical restriction, not a bylaw restriction. But there's never been any restriction on finance committee members supporting referenda. But there are four statewide candidates. But there's always been a restriction in practice of finance committee members supporting local candidates. So I think, you know, for my position, hopefully that's the way we'll continue. I think that's pretty fair. That's been our tradition. It's probably written in... Is that written in the policy manual? I believe so. It's also a great excuse. It is. So you can sort of duck touching situations. So the one other thing, D, you usually make your motion with respect to transfers. But just in case something else needs to happen. I didn't do this already. That's fine. So I move on again. No, no, no, no. I move with any. I don't know what the word is. Material and consequential like that. No, I think as I recall, the motion is that any required transfers from the reserve fund up to $10,000 can be authorized by the chair alone. And 50,000 with the vice chair. 50,000 with the vice chair. Yeah. So from the beginning of the fiscal year, July 1, the next time the finance committee convenes, we need to make an appropriation out of the reserve fund. I move that the chair allowed to unilaterally be able to make transfers up to $10,000 out of the reserve fund. And then with the authority of one other vice chair, make a transfer out to $50,000 out of the reserve fund. This is the second two vice chair. Two vice chair. Yeah. Okay. It's been moved and seconded. Did you have all that? Yes. Okay. Any further discussion? Hearing none. The vote is in order. Greg Dimion. Yeah. Brian, a brief in the area. Yes. Sophie. Yes. Harold. Yeah. Any record? Yes. Allen Jones. Yes. Teller. Yes. Allen Tosti. Yes. Christine Dishler. Yeah. Norman. Yes. And David McKenna. Yes. The vote is unanimous. Great. So having taken care of all the major business of the evening, a motion to adjourn is in order. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. There are no objections for adjourning.