 How are we welcome everyone this is a meeting without quorum of the public arts commission for the town of Amherst. This meeting is being recorded to the cloud and will be uploaded to the town of Amherst YouTube channel. And at this time I am recognizing the chair Shoshona King and making her the host for this meeting. Have a great meeting everyone. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We are pursuant to chapter 20 of the act of 2021. This meeting will be conducted via remote means. Members of the public who wish to access the meeting can do so by clicking on the live link. To this zoom meeting. That can be found on the public meetings calendar on the town of Amherst website or by dialing in by phone. This meeting is being recorded and will be posted to the town of Amherst YouTube channel. Thank you. You want me to take the minutes even though there's no quorum. I'm thinking actually of not going over any anything more than just like some updates that I think you guys should know about. And then I could like just talk about the new people that are being appointed. Right. And then like any other further stuff we could wait until actually we get people in here. You know what I mean? I do. So does that mean you don't want minutes? I would think you would take minutes no matter what. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You're right. They don't have to go into detail. Yeah. And then we, it's better to have them and not need them and need them and not have them. Right. Okay. Just give me one little second. You don't have to figure out somebody else to do it because pretty soon I'm going to turn into a pumpkin. Yeah, we got a lot of people coming in. Yeah. They really stacked it high with people for us. Right. And I put it into our contact information. If you want to see it in our Google. Yeah. I put it all in our Google group. Okay. In that context. So I'm trying to get there on my phone. So I don't have to do it on my computer. So I could talk. You know, at least tell names, maybe you guys know some of these people. I bet I don't. Yeah, it'd be great if I did. Yeah. So where are you going to put them? What do you mean? Where am I going to put them? Oh, wait. It just was breaking up. Hold on. I think when I'm doing stuff on the internet. Things get crazy on my audio here. I couldn't hear what you guys are saying. I'm ready to go. So how many people has that have been appointed. Five. She said five. Yeah. Actually, first, I wanted to tell you guys about that. Kamal Peters took down. The poetic dialogue. He's been working on it in his shop. He's going to be reinstalling it on the 26th. Great. So that, that is happening. I'm in negotiations with the cultural council. We may or may not have to give that money back. I think it was said like, we were definitely going to have to bring it back to them because we didn't do the project at the boltwood. The boat would a little. Keep show thing. That was initially, but then this past week, they were like actually hold off on that. You might be able to hold on to it. But I think it would be great. It would be great. It would save us a lot of headache. We wouldn't have to rewrite for the thing, but I'm going to find out very soon. And if we do have to rewrite it, we have to rewrite it before October 17th. Uh-huh. So, excuse me. Let me ask. So what was going to go in? Those little windows. Uh, whatever. Um, a artist would want essentially, um, we wanted to do like a call for artists and then have. Like some choices. You know, from whatever got submitted. Uh-huh. And then, um, choose whatever goes in from there, but we didn't have enough people. To like. Steer the, um, the call for artists like to actually. Like be the email that all of these submissions get sent to and all that. So I'm hoping now with more people. Somebody will be able to take on that project. Uh-huh. So. Excuse me. Excuse me. Yeah. What was the date? Our poetic dialogue is going to be reinstalled. 26th. Thank you. All right. Sorry to interrupt. Oh no, that's okay. Um, has any been anything been done to upgrade those little windows? Uh, last year. Yes. What happened to him? Um, it was a temporary install that lasted for a couple of months. Uh-huh. Cause when I've gone to look at them in the past and I haven't been recently, it's been, it's been a couple of a year and a half or more. Yeah. You couldn't see in them. Right. Yeah, there was. They were weird. Yeah, it is weird. Um, it was a project from like 12 years ago or something. I remember it because they first had. Palms in it. Yeah. I had people wanting me to go look at them. And mainly I would see the workers who keep the parking garage area and everything. I'll take care of standing around looking at it, making fun of it. Yeah. Not. I know. And I couldn't blame them. I mean, it was, you couldn't even look at it. Yeah. It was weird. Yeah. So last, like a year ago now. It was like early September and into like winter. There was an artist that had a. Show that he had installed in there. That was like kinetic art. That was very cool. Oh, yeah. That's great. Yeah. And we were hoping for another thing like that, but there was nobody. Nobody's been available to really. Take that side. I can't, I can't take it on. I've got so many other stuff. Yeah. And we just need somebody that's like willing to. Bear the brunt of the. Barrage of emails and sort through, you know. And the emails will be filled with questions. Yes. Right. Yeah. Well, perhaps the women's and new people will. Perhaps. Yes. That's what I'm hoping. I'm hoping that like. You know, it was one. One person would be like, all right. Yeah. I'm willing to deal with the emails and then, you know, it's not entirely their project, but. So they don't have to bear the weight of it all, but they could deal with that initial part. So how would they know how to answer that? We would have a. We would have an orientation on the space. Okay. Yeah. Cause that's what that's what they'd want to know is how am I going to field all these questions from the public? Yeah. We're still talking about poetic dialogue. No, we're talking about boltwood. Oh, no. We're talking about. Oh yeah, right. Because I'm planning on stepping away in March. Okay. Well, that's good to know. Yeah. I'm sorry about that though. I wish you'd stay. I know. I wish I could give more, but I'm like kind of half in and half out of. Of Amherst right now. So. Like right. You know, right now I'm in. You know, right now I'm in Maryland. Oh wow. Crab country. Yes. I saw a couple of crabs actually today. Oh wow. My dog joined us today. Oh, wait a minute. So let me think about this. We're getting five people. So. If I stay on that's eight. So we're oversubscribed. So I. The interest of justice and all that should get off. This is. Come on. Right. Yeah, I think. I think they'll. They'll send you your letter and everything saying like, thank you for your service. Well, that's coming right. Yeah. Okay. So. That means that Ellen will be the veteran on the committee. Who knows the most history. She's actually in the state of Maryland. She's a veteran on the committee. Who knows the most history. She's actually leaving too. Oh man. This means this. This means this commission is without a history. Exactly. That's. That's actually the only reason I'm staying. Cause I was wanting to leave as well. But. There should be somebody. That's been here for a little bit. Well, I mean, I haven't been here long enough. So. Well, that was, yeah, I was going to hang around, but. I'm happy to go because I've got the teaching thing on my plate, which is time consuming. Yeah. And being where the town said we're still doing zoom meetings until March at least. So that's why I agreed to stay on because even though I'm traveling a lot right now, I can come in by zoom. Yeah. So. Don't forget you've got to get all those back minutes. Approved. Yeah. How are we going to do that when those people weren't here? Well, they can. There'll be a quaren there that I, let me see. I suppose that I better stay on long enough. Well, I don't know if they send me the leader. The letter than them off. This is, I get it right. I suppose I don't know that's, I guess that's a question for Angela. I'm going to ask Angela to hang on to it for a meeting so that, so that I could be there and you. Me. And. Derek could vote. On the minutes and then I could go by by. Yeah, just so that we can like approve all of these minutes. Right. Like officially. Right. Okay. I'm going to call. I'm going to call. And see about getting the letter held. Okay. Thank you. Okay. You guys want to hear some of the names of the people? Sure. Okay. We've got Lisa Kane. Laurie Friedman. Michelle cutting. She goes by Mikey. Robert Brannon. And Terry Holt. And it, um, I guess I should have sent you spellings of this beforehand to me. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how many minutes, but, um, if you want to see. Everything about them, you can go in, uh, Jim to the. Google group in the context list. Okay. So I said, oh. Well, I just say the new people are listed in the Google group. Okay. That works. I have to. Include what the child is saying in the minutes. Yes. Okay. Is all the background noise, like very. No, it's not bad. Okay. Sounds like real life. Yeah. I'm in the children's department so that I can talk without bothering anyone that's studying over in the other wing. Cause the adults, they don't have as much fun. They're all quiet over there. Right. But even though this is a big shakeup right now, it's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. We've got some amazing people coming on. Do you know them? No, but I interviewed them with Paul. Oh, good. Oh, great. Yeah. And, um, I'm really happy with the ones that got on. They're all fantastic. That's so cool. There's so many. I was actually hoping to stay on long enough to get them, to meet them and know them a little bit. But I was, I mean, I can't really stay forever because I, I've got that teaching job. But it only takes an hour. Well, I'll talk to Angela about it. And we'll see. Yeah. And I don't know when our meetings will be because these are all new people. They might have a different schedule on what, you know, I'll put out a poll for our next meeting. Yeah. It's going to be, it's going to be hard to get. Decimating people to all agree, huh? It is. It's really going to be a challenge. Yeah. May I make a suggestion? Yes. Definitely. More. Proposed dates. You includes on Doodle, the easier it is to find one that works. Okay. I usually include at least 10. And I have never had a problem with Doodle not finding a date. Yeah. Okay. I think the trick is though, you got to get some kind of idea like, can you meet to the middle of the day? Or does it have to be after work and that kind of thing? Once you know that, I, I think if you just put a lot of different dates on there at work. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Good to know. Yeah, there's, there's one in particular that I think would be really good for the town hall gallery. Cause she does. Art management in that way already. And then for her. Sister's art. Oh, okay. She's like a agent. Yeah. Kind of. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's another one that. Has done a lot of administrative stuff that I think would probably be a good fit for a chair. And then there's another one that's like a finance guy. A lawyer that has had a lot of pressure. And a lot of pressure and grant writing and such. Have you got a lawyer? No, we don't have a lawyer, but. I think that finance guy is. Good about rules. Finance people. I know. Kind of good. Well, I mean, you've got some funky contracts floating around from the past. We do. It means that somebody needs to recognize that make sure we don't use them again. Oh, okay. And know what they say know what you have to worry about know what it's it was left open so that you could have a problem in this area so deal with it and that kind of thing. Evaluate your issues that might come up and what propose remedies. Yeah. Is there any available if contract situation happened again, even if you're not on the commission, I will strongly consider it. Okay, I got to worry about insurance and I'm working on that. I actually get insurance for free to my former firm, but I can't get my, there's a, you know, my previous insurance will says that it doesn't ensure me anymore for anything that happened even while it was enforced. If I resume the private practice of law but it will not tell me that pro bono work is not the private practice of law so I'm working on trying to get them to say no it's not of course. Okay, has been a recent change in the Massachusetts rules which I haven't reviewed yet which I think might form a solution so I can get a solution so I can get my mouth practice yes I will. All right. Maybe the town has something. They probably do. I'm on the Amherst mask of website looking at our thing. Look at our, look at our information and for member info it has James and Ellen and Shoshona. And that's it. It doesn't have you know you're not on there. That's okay. It doesn't have Shoshona and doesn't have Ellen. It does have Ellen yeah, it does. Yeah, and hasn't been updated that's the problem. Yeah, and I thought that Angela said she was had put them up. Yeah, I will mention it to Angela because I got a color. Well, could I be possibly getting to a well old website by accident. No, give me your, give me the URL. I just have Amherst gov. Amherst gov, you know. And isn't there a forward slash something. There. Okay, there it is. It's some. Yeah, it's Amherst gov slash one nine three slash about dash the dashboard. Okay. So I've got Amherst mass dot gov. slash four slash one nine three four slash about four slash the four slash board. It's, it's one nine three three. Oh, thank you. Yeah, otherwise it's right. Okay. Anyway, the new people probably have gone on this website and tried to read about what the mission is and stuff like that I'm assuming. Yeah, that's a good thing. So anyway, Yeah, and there's another site called featured artists. And that's a cool feature to have. Wait, when, when I go on here, it does have all the new people on. Somehow or another, my website might go into the, I went to the Amherst town and went to the website and went to the commission and that's what I got. So don't, if you've got it, it's, you know, do trust yours, not mine. And the weird thing is though, is that two of them, they have terms that expire in 2025 and no three of them and then two of them have 2024 they didn't appoint them all to the same amount. Yeah, I guess so that everybody doesn't go off at the same time again. Oh well, you know maybe some people like that. You know, two years instead of three. Yeah, they still have my old bio on here I sent them a new bio. But it's still the old one on here. I'm sure I'm not getting what you got. Do you have a bio. Of course. Yeah, you should send that in so that they can put that on there. I should send that to Angela. Yeah. Okay. And actually, you know, once everyone gets on, I want to do a thing where on our social media, we have like, you know, introducing, you know, different commissioners and have like different days be for the different commissioners. And so, so like any pictures that you would want to share and your bio also send that to me as well and I can put it on our social media. Okay, well I should make another note for that. Okay. And then I want, you know, someone else will start taking over the social media soon. I really want to like work hard at transitioning over to other people taking up different projects so that I can leave easily once March comes around. Yeah. So you want to transition into the media. Those five people say they would take that on. Not yet. I haven't heard like from them actually what like specifically they want to do. So I was hoping that some of them would come to the meeting today, but it was because they just got appointed yesterday. Do any of them know each other or have worked together before. I don't know. That would be interesting to know. Yeah. Like I know Mikey, but that's it. I think she was interested in the art commission like a while ago, like a long while ago. Like early spring, I think, and so I met her at Amco and we just chatted for like an hour and a half about the art commission and stuff. And she was, and so she applied right away and was just waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting. Well that's too bad. Yeah. And then finally they just appointed them like, you know, yesterday. But it, I, there's a lot of stuff going on in town, I think. So it's hard to like the library and the elementary schools and stuff like that. Yeah. They're super busy in the town hall. The town hall is so good looking. You know, as a building. Yeah, it's a very pretty inside. I like that. Yeah, I like the inside too. It's a nice picture of the inside because there's that hallway that's also like stairs that goes up. Oh yeah. That's really pretty. Yeah. All right, well, I feel like there's not anything else that we need to talk about because I don't want to start like opening up any other can of worms until we actually have our, our full staff or whatever you want to call us. I hope that you get lucky with your poll and find a time when everybody will say they'll come. Yeah. Yeah, that would be good. That would be good because it would be great at least to have one meeting right at the beginning where everybody's there so that we can all get to know each other. Yeah. It's nice to actually meet in person even like, even if it was not an official thing just to like, learn who we are as people. Oh, we have I have a big backyard. You do. It's true. It's very good for meetings. It is. We couldn't like have some wine and soft drinks or something. That's a fantastic idea. I like that idea. Yeah, I'll be glad to do it. I have to do it while it's good weather. Yeah, true. Definitely. All right, well let's, let's email each other about when would be a good time to do that. Okay. Maybe Jim, you come up with some initial ideas. I'm pretty open except for Wednesday when I have to teach and then I don't know my schedule. Beyond that I'm hoping it's not if it's one day a week I'm going to slip my throat because you can't do my trial one day a week. At least not the way I do it. I do it. I make them do the work. And they have to write their own questions understand what they're doing and all that is what the benefit of it is my view. There are other people that write questions for them. So what do they learn. Okay. Point is I'm going to be busy doing that but not for a while. You know right now it's just get them oriented and everything. Yeah. Is there anything else that you guys would want to talk about. Not me. Not me. Okay. So I feel like, you know, delving into other business right now would just be like spinning our wheels, you know. Yeah. And I want to be respectful of our time here. Okay, that sounds good. I'm going to mail you the minutes immediately please send any corrections. Okay. Enjoy Maryland. Thanks. Bye. Bye.