 Hello everyone and welcome to enter the ether of the weekly podcast all about the upcoming third person mobile ethereal clash of souls I'm your host the man goose and Introducing jelly knees if you enjoy sitting at a dartboard piecing together a puzzle that shouldn't be a puzzle of being the embodiment of conspiracies The jelly knees should be your main that introduction courtesy of actual meerkat if you have an introduction You have you want me to do for jelly knees stop by his discord tag me Let me know jelly knees. How you doing, brother? I'm great man goose. I've been surprised you actually did it It was a great idea Aka desmeric you're not wrong though. I make everything a puzzle whether it is or not You do but sometimes it is so Ah got a lot to get into this week, of course, there was the The Dante myth spotlight that jelly and I have both covered but we're gonna cover it a little more tonight Just banter back and forth get our thoughts on it But also something's been going on in the ethereal discord that caught both Both of our Attention fade to black. Let me know about it jelly. Go ahead. This is the greatest thing and this is what I love about like internet Communities is stupid stuff like this that also turns into like something amazing at the same time There are some people in the discord that have been speed-running drawing Grognark of all people And it started as a joke for one of them that he just posted this random youtube video of himself drawing Grognark And said it was the world record speedrun and then somebody else made one encounter to him just And then it like the descended the rabbit hole of like, okay, what different types of Grognark speedruns can we have what like different I I don't even know how it became a thing But I'm so glad that it did and I can't wait to see how it evolves over the coming week Because I'm sure it's not gonna stop there They they're both amazing and Hilarious like it's actually Kind of like there's a lot of talent there There's a lot of talent that you need to draw Grogg Grognark and like MS paint that fast and have it be recognizable like they're even put like the little Incredible the one thing I noticed about one of them. I think the user's name is C. Moisty in the discord In his he's got the two windows open one is paint and one is the timer But if you look at his tabs in the top left of the screen one of them says Grognark porn and I think that that is the greatest little Easter egg of my entire life It is the greatest Easter egg I I saw it and laughed for a solid 10 minutes like it's just incredible If the theory all becomes as popular as I hope it does there's going to be Grognark porn at all I'm just gonna leave that to you to find and I'm just not gonna worry about it. I'm gonna. I will find it. Nope. I'm good I'm out. Oh God, so yeah, that's so that's been going on and it's been Absolutely great, but onto some more serious news. We're finally getting myth spotlights. Jilly. What do you think that means? Do you think you think that means we're a We're getting closer and closer or what? I mean, I'd imagine we have to be if they're finally releasing images of the kits Of how the abilities work and granted we've known Dante, right? But it seems like this is leading up to other myths being released or announced as well getting their own spotlights Plus we're seeing more of the map. We're seeing people on the map We're like there's definitely things here that are indicating. We're getting much closer to that time This is really the most we've seen in terms of development for the game We actually have characters From the game on the map using abilities running around. That's the most we've ever gotten what just Paragon minions if there are actual minions are involved in it as well Yeah, so I think that's a huge step forward for them, which is great news and the community seems To have responded well to it as well We've seen I mean the last two days alone. They've seen like a hundred people hundred and fifty people in the discord that are new Yeah, it's crazy good for them like I'm happy for it I know people people often follow my channel for The Paragon remake stuff that I do but a lot of those people saw the video that I did about Dante and they were like Holy shit. This is like I don't think they believe that ethereal was a real thing And now that they're actually seeing like the functional characters on a map It's I wouldn't call it. I wouldn't call it gameplay But they're seeing what has come about well But the fruits of undying labor and I think a lot of them are now really excited for ethereal. So Really good stuff. I'm hoping that it does drive more people towards the game because I want I want there to be plenty of People playing ethereal when it comes out agreed Yeah, we got to have enough people for the jelly goose comp too Stomp on Yeah, exactly All right, so let's let's talk about the the Dante spotlight now. What we got first so I mean the Yeah, so we're going to talk about the Dante spotlight and we're gonna immediately talk about Malaya instead because you know, whatever I didn't appreciate seeing my wife who died over and over and over. I'll tell you that right goddamn Yeah, excuse you how can she be your waifu if you don't have a Malaya body pillow? Oh, that's true. Yep. Sorry. I'll make one. I'll make one Next week just Just standing in the corner behind you oh dear lord next to a Grognark one We need one for Grognark now to the speedrunning community Yeah, so we got to see a little bit of Malaya and we got to see a minion so that was kind of a cool thing with Dante's Overview or spotlight whatever you want to call it so what else what did you want to talk about jelly? I mean so they did show us finally what Dante's passive is we saw what it looks like in the extra life test But it wasn't functional So we had no idea and they didn't tell us what the abilities were for him So we have we had no clue in that test what his passive actually was They told us that it's a basically a three hit passive for every consecutive hit you land on somebody You're going to get increased attack speed as long as you're still attacking them. You switch targets it resets But that's the the main gist of it, which I think fits well for Dante Really everything they've shown about his kit and what we've used so far makes him the really I think all around Carrie he's gonna be decent at everything. It's the what is it? I can't think of a thing the phrase now, but Wow, I am completely blanking. Yeah, I don't know. It's all good. Don't worry about it But yeah, he does be like kind of the twin blaster the Murdoch of ethereal and that he's I Don't want to call him generic or basic, but kind of generic and basic like he doesn't do anything to off the wall and crazy He's just he's it. He's what you want from your basic ADC. He's very straightforward Press the button the thing happens He's your he's the way I usually put it is he's your tutorial character He's the one that you can have somebody on a tutorial and without having to go too in-depth Explain their kit and have the person play that character Which is not a bad thing every game needs a handful of those characters for new players to pick up right in order to get them used to the mechanics of the game itself and That was one of the weird things about Paragon I think as well is that amount of characters that were had that kind of all-around feeling and were easy to pick up We're very few in select Everybody was so complicated that it had it was hard I think in another aspect for new players to pick that up So I'm excited to see that the first one we know about is this all-around Tutorial character type feel it's definitely good that he's going is going to be is going to be one of the first Seven in there because you definitely want you don't want to be testing in your testing phase to be testing out wacky shit You want to make sure that you're the foundations of your game are solid and these Kind of a building block of a theory a lot would say yeah, and so we don't myth We also found out he's going to be a striker and a dualist as part of the archetypes Right speaking of Kai commented on last week's ETE and said that the first 14 myths They will all be in one of the 14 archetypes that they will all fill into that I don't know how and I'm trying to figure it out in my brain But because because each one might have a sub archetype They could technically fit into an archetype without fully belonging to it at the same time, right? So that'll be interesting 14 so The other thing is that Dante's right mouse button changed his special ability So in the extra life test and I had to confirm this with you because I wasn't sure if I was crazy or what in the extra life Test when you pressed his right mouse button it just fired a volley of shots, right? There was nothing additional to it. You just press the button You got ten shots out and then at the end you were silenced and disabled In this they explained that that's changed now and instead is just a flat attack speed increase for Dante For ten autos or ten basic attacks. I should say okay, so it's slightly different, but it's relatively the same in that same regard It's not quite as punishing then because I know in the extra life demo You had to commit to when you use that because you were locked into it as soon as you hit that right click You were firing all those bullets and you better lock onto your target and you're gonna be silenced afterwards So this will give you a little more leeway. I guess and now you use that attack speed Which I guess for a tutorial character is not a bad thing making him have a relatively less punishing special ability in comparison to others Or less Variable special ability that comparatively to others might be a good thing for him But we'll have to wait and see how it feels because we've only tried the previous version of it right Kind of like that previous version though like I wish that would have stayed yeah I kind of feel the same But I think it'll depend when it's max level is it going to really make that bit that big a difference Versus like level one because they said the attack speed increase can go over the attack speed cap as well So end of the game if he's already got max attack speed and then is using this He can really just pop off and we might get that same feeling like the extra life test version Right, but with this new different version as well, and you can still cancel in the middle of it kind of yeah But what else did we see man goose? status effects We saw him on Malaya and then we also saw them on Dante with his right click It was that weird cartoon bubble with the with the three dots I did confirm with them that is those are just placeholders. That's not gonna be the the end all for his For the the silence effect you're not going to silence somebody and see a stupid cartoon bubble Like you're in the middle of a comic book. I thought it looked dumb and yeah sure shit that that's not what they're going to do So if you looked at that and thought that's cheesy as fuck don't worry about it That's not going to stay in the game for very long. I mean well, I shouldn't say that I don't know how long it's gonna stay, but it's not intended to be in the final product Something that was funny about that even though it's not going to stay is one of the comments on my YouTube video Said that it looks like Dante's cussing it every time his right click ends and I died laughing like Hubert style So good Son of a god That would be great I would love that But in addition to that we saw the slow effect around Malaya's feet From his I believe it's capsule of thunder that does the slow, right? So we saw that effect and that line that would great Yeah, absolutely. So I think that was good The I mean we talked about it briefly, but we saw a berserker minion Which is the first time we've seen their minions actually outside of concept art, which looks really good to me They were better sized than what they were in the extra life test. I know we talked to them a bit about that. Oh, yeah But so I'm excited to see how that works the berserker minion already being there I don't know if that means they have all of the minions done and we'll actually see those in pre alpha But or if that just is what all of the minions are gonna look like until we get all of the minion variation sometime later We'll have to pay attention if they do I Assume that they're going to do more myth spotlights will have to pay attention if there's minions and those what minions They use and the minion was walking very slow. I highly doubt that's going to be That I'm sure that was just for instructional purposes only that was that's not gonna be how fast minions actually move. Yeah The interesting thing speaking of where they were strolling the interesting thing that I've looked at a couple times And I can't quite figure it out is where they are on the map I'm sure that they're on the void lane based on how it all looks But I'm not sure if they're actually in the lane itself Because the way it's set up feels like they're in a weird spot than what we've seen that look like it doesn't look Wide enough to be an actual lane doesn't yeah But in some of the shots you can see turrets in the distance So I'm not sure if it is a lane or isn't a lane or what all is involved with that So it'll be interesting to see if that other spotlights take place in that same place Or we're gonna see different sections of the map or what that all looks like right? I suppose we'll find out and then uh Yeah, I guess you're already alluding to it more to the map We got to see a little a little bit more of the map and Yeah, I agree with you. This looked more like a jungle pathway than an actual lane Yeah, those are the lanes that they need to widen them out a little bit of an it seems really narrow And even the path that it that they were on Seemed didn't feel like a lane So if that is the path definitely needs to be widened at the very minimum for a visual aesthetic of this is a well Traveled area rather than like the jungle one which makes sense to have a smaller skinnier line as you're following through it It didn't even look like a a wave of minions would fit down that little Yeah, maybe it was just the perspective that we were seeing and they showed Dante running through the river as Well, and it didn't look like he lost any movement speed running into the river Which was something I was curious about to see if that while you're in there because of the water moving You might lose move speed one way or the other doesn't look like that's going to be a thing So that's good to hear at least I think for a lot of people because that means you can travel through that river without feeling like you're going to You're at a exposed state in that same process That would be interesting that river was huge huge That's how that's how wide I would expect a lane to be maybe yeah The and then the stupid obelisk at the end is driving me insane because I I just want to know what it does and Even skifter who I believe recorded a lot of if not all of the stuff for the spotlight Said that he purposefully panned up to the obelisk purely because he knew I would lose it But in doing so he kind of confirmed that that is the obelisk I don't think we actually knew whether or not that was the obelisk or not Or if that was teleporters some of us knew another thing for the tinfoil task force We knew the whole time you didn't know we knew man goose. You don't understand Oh Yeah, so the obelisk will figure it out one of these days The game's gonna come out. They're still not gonna tell us what it does purely so I can just lose my mind That towards the end I would say it was a moat you're saying that you think it might have been a back animation I do think it was a back animation because of the way Knowing that a lot of the UG devs are league players is a big thing for me And all almost all of the back animations or all of them for league have a blue circle on the ground that is kind of like a a Sigil of some kind for lack of a better way to put it and then you have the blue particle effects coming up into the air But I think that's more than likely a back animation Okay, but it could be an emote. Maybe he just puts a thing on the ground as his emote because Transmuters, I don't know I mean, it's cool either way whether it's a an emote or a back animation It's nice to see that they have that in the game already. Mm-hmm. Absolutely And then those were the things I pointed out. It was nice to see death animations You don't see death animations very often. I know I know a lot of people thought that it was a cheesy death animation I don't really give a shit. I didn't I personally didn't think it was cheesy, but I mean, there's a little it was a little hammy you know Who's gonna jump up flip around in the air that fall down. Oh, no, I'm dead I did a backflip though because like fine. I gotta be fabulous as I die But I think it's really cool that they have death animations in already Yeah, like usually it's just people just explode and then you don't know what happened Yeah, and hit registration too was a big thing every time Malaya hit with a attack She would always kind of recoil backwards a little bit Which was a complaint a lot of people had about the extra life test is that you didn't have that feedback of Getting hit so I think seeing that helped a lot of people get past that at the very least if not Become more on board with the whole thing It's a lot of the reason a lot of the para zombies felt very hollow is that there wasn't enough of a hit reaction and Like we've talked about the visceral experience the paragon was like well I've talked about it at least quite a bit and that's what added to it you when you hit somebody that kind of reacted to to being hit and you can watch your your your basic attacks impact on them and that's clearly visible in this myth spotlight is the and the Dante's basic attacks come out and there's an explosion around his transmitter. So you could tell when he's firing That you see an obvious projectile fly through the air and then shatter upon Malaya or the minion or whatever And it's just going to be really nice to see that projectile shatter and know that you hit your shot Mm-hmm like getting that visual feedback and immersive feedback to let you know what's going on Yeah, absolutely. It was lacking from a lot of the pairs. It's still lacking from a lot of them But it's looks like it's something we're going to get from a theory. Oh, yep And it looks I there were a lot of comments seeming going both ways about the visual effects themselves Mm-hmm that they looked good or looked bad or whatever it was. I personally think that they looked fine I won't say like they were the greatest thing I've ever seen But I wouldn't say they looked bad by any stretch of the imagination either Especially for a free alpha title basic attack animations are just all the visual just the visual animations across the board the biggest ones I heard were the one his go-long ability and his ultimate that people were complaining about The was ultimate was weird Because it would break out into a triple view of Dante which When you're watching it as fast as it happens It's like it's like what was that like what was that every single time and like I was watching it I had to Import it into Premiere and slow it down and go frame by frame to figure out that it was just a triple to view of him I don't think that's necessary. I don't know why it's there I think if it was like a single-player game, that's a nice touch But I think in a multiplayer game where you're gonna be constantly questioning Is there another enemy nearby or anything like that having something clutter your vision and Maybe make you think that there's something that there isn't yeah could get really annoying really really fast. Yeah Yeah, it was a little odd. I think they could just replace that with an explosion Just real basic. Yep And I but yeah, I think the sound was slightly different than the extra life test on his ultimate as well Granted the base wasn't turned to 11 but But even in general it sounded I think more crisp than it did in the extra life test as a whole So the sound design is incredible for these That's probably some feedback that they got from the extra life We were all calling it the base drop and Talking about how freaking loud we're gonna call it that till the end of time now though So even players are gonna pick up the game and not know why we call it that but still call it that like it's just like Five years from now. That's gonna be like a fun fact somewhere Did you know that? What is this ultimate called again? Say hello to dot dot dot hello? Yeah, did you know that say hello to was often referred to as base drop because the extra life Bucking some or other, you know Dante's just a Scarface fan. What can we say? Yeah? Scarface was in the dubstep I guess something they seem to be pushing to which is They're really trying to push this concept of getting in on the ground level of the game to people right now and That kind of fits in with that like the people that call Dante's ultimate base drop or the people that were around Yeah, I was there with back when the extra life test happened. Oh, yeah when man goose base sniped Evan from across the map and just no more we just got it. I'm just remembering that that happened I'm not calling Evan out by any stretch of the imagination for being the first one to get spawn killed But I'm just saying that, you know, it happens to the best of us And I definitely did it on purpose. I waited for him to spawn like I was dialed in just And you know, man goose is gonna try it in the full game, too You know, it's gonna happen. Well, I don't think I'll be able to see them spot You're not gonna care. You're gonna try it anyway You're gonna watch the timer in the corner and be like, okay now But I don't think in the full game I don't think his his ultimate probably is going to do nearly as much damage as it was for actually I hope not to be me six v six and Yeah, just all the power was going to one person the other thing that they showed us was the bases with our character model in them and the spire is Absolutely massive in comparison to Malaya She's almost like a third the height of the spire and the spire was like a third of the height of the elder in the previous map reveal so the elder has been He's huge in comparison to what he was in the extra life test Tower over everybody. Mm-hmm, which is not terrifying in the slightest. I'm fine. It's fine. I Would have expected him to be about the size of a tower Which maybe he is I don't know it's hard to see we haven't seen anybody next to towers So now we need that kind of metric in order to see where it's going to go I don't want to force a gender upon the Upon the elder my bad Then at the very end we got to see a really good look at this cyber Ronan skin We got to actually see it on the 3d model just skin looks It's a lot more transformative than I thought it was at first like when they first revealed all the skins I was like that they just not do anything to But there's actually a lot done Absolutely, and it looks really crisp like you can the edges on it looked really nice The textures were really good. I would say and not that it's bad But in comparison to these bait Dante's base skin to cyber Ronan his base falls flat a little bit in comparison for me Because of those those little edge details that feel that they're not quite as there on the Dante skin The base skin as they are on cyber Ronan Like I enjoy the skin. I am not saying it's bad by any stretch I'm just if I had to compare the two that would be the one thing I'd said So you would rock the cyber Ronan over his base skin. You're saying a hundred percent I would rock his base skin over the cyber personally, but I Think I said this already as well But I think the thing that confused me and made me think that there wasn't much of a change It's the same color palette mm-hmm like his base skin and the cyber Ronan skin. So that's what maybe then, you know, they're both have Capes and shit. So that's I think where the confusion came in I know somebody in the comments of one of my videos said that they prefer they were preferred that It keep the same palette because it makes him look like a Sith Lord Hey, man, maybe it's Windu in disguise It wasn't Windu that said that but I can imagine Windu saying something like that Huge Star Wars geek right there. Oh, yeah Mean so anything else in the video that you wanted to talk about briefly man goose No, I think The thing that struck me as the most important thing that I gleaned from that video was those animations of the hit reaction and The basic attacks actually shattering on the target That's the thing that really grabbed my attention and impressed me the most and made me feel like people are going to enjoy playing this pre alpha More so than the pair of zombies because the pair of zombies just felt especially at the very first felt very hollow and I think Ethereal will actually have that visceral feel from the beginning. Yeah, I agree and it's free alpha Like there's yeah, go ahead. There's a lot of room to grow and change things from here on out Right, none of this is claiming to be a finished product yet right, so things like animations or Visual effects or anything like that still have room to change and be updated and made smoother better Whatever it may be From now till the actual full launch of the game because we're going into pre alpha This is a very they're further along than what I would consider a pre alpha But by the same token, they still have a lot of room to grow and do other things So if that's what they want to call it more power to them Yeah, well like you were saying people people like people were like You know cheering on saying that the visual effects were great and others were saying they were not so great It's because some of them were really good and some of them were not so good. No, you know, it's it's Both and they have a chance to we you know be be happy that we have the really good one Absolutely and look forward to them improving the bad ones saying Yeah, what are your final thoughts? Overall really impressed to be honest and I'm excited for what this means going forward Assuming we're going to get more of these in the future over the coming weeks My guess is that there they might become part of the community corners They mentioned the community corners two weeks ago That they're just the one that they were working on has been delayed So I assume this one was probably supposed to be part of that similar to the map reveal before So in theory and community corners in the future We're gonna see more and more of these reveals being done and I'd assume we had the weird malware thing before The reveal that malware kind of leaked his abilities kind of sort of on the website I imagine we'll see that a couple days in advance of every reveal as well That would be cool. I would like to see that I'm just whatever information I can get Yep, absolutely Now I think that about wraps it up jelly you got anything to plug videos as as normal more and more videos of course and Exciting thing I officially launched today that the time that we were recording is a theory in dot gg It's a website. I've been working on in the background for a bit and it's right now It's just going to be kind of blog posts keeping a play a kind of a one-stop shop for all the updates of ethereal Whether it's something that's been posted in the discord or on the website or a YouTube video It's all going to be located in one spot But the big thing that's coming and hopefully with the release of the game is a full builder For you to create builds and share them with other people when the game comes out So you can help learn the builds learn the game get the whole nine yards in there So that's in the works There's a teaser for that on the website right now and yeah, that's it for me. What about you man goose? That's what I was going to plug if you didn't plug it Your website it's a theory in gg right yep a theory in dot gg and Yeah, it's a I know big fat gamers been talking in my comments about making a builder for theory I keep trying to tell him like go go talk to jelly, but I didn't want to release You are working on this website. It's a big fat gamer. I'll tell you now If you want to work with him on that that would be awesome Yeah, I think that's going to be about it. I hope you guys enjoyed the show I hope you guys enjoyed that miss spotlight for Dante and I hope we get more as we all enter the ether man goose