 Okay. So I'm really happy that you agreed to talk with me about the universal code of conduct today, Bobby, and I'm curious to hear your opinion on what you think it would change, but also how you got engaged. So let us start with this. How did you become aware that there is an effort going on to create a universal code of conduct? I became aware via a communication that was going on on the channels on our one of our channels, Wikimedia One was one of them, and the other one was some Wikipedia's they were talking, you know, and you could see because we follow these kinds of things. So I became aware that something was going on that has to do with the universal code of conduct. So yeah, I thought they are involved as well somehow. What do you think we really manage as a community and the foundation working together to create a universal code of conduct? What impact does this have on the community of your home wiki? You know, I think with the small wikis, they are not much as organized and big like the big wikis. And in for an example, the wiki that I mostly contribute in which is the society Wikipedia is just only a few, very few Wikipedia's that are there. The one was really very much active. I think a universal code of conduct like this will help us as we are growing as a small wiki, you know, to have some sort of like a framework of how to also organize ourselves as a small wiki, you know, in order to have our own code of conduct as we're moving forward with increasing the wiki. So I think really it's very important in that sense, you know, that we're going to draw from it as we are growing as a small wiki. Do you think a universal code of conduct might also change anything for editors from your community when they are editing in larger projects, for example, on the English Wikipedia or on any other Wikipedia projects outside of your home wiki? Yes, I do think that it's going to change. The reason why I think so, it's because, you know, as a wiki grows, you can see that priorities change because people come with different personalities. For example, the English Wikipedia, it's not a space that is very much friendly there, it's very much hostile in the English Wikipedia. So when we go, for example, when we want to translate articles, perhaps there's an article in the small language Wikipedia that we want to translate into the English Wikipedia. I think as the small Wikipedia grows, it will give the editors of the small Wikipedia confidence to really go to edit on the big Wikipedia like English, knowing that there is something out there that protects them, that will make them feel at least at home and comfortable when they are participating in the English Wikipedia. So I think it's going to play that role of really giving some sense of confidence for the users who are coming from the small Wikipedia whenever they are editing on the bigger space. So you think that will also apply to spaces like Commons or Wikidata or, you know, other projects besides English Wikipedia or do you think it's especially English Wikipedia? That is so important. The English Wikipedia is the biggest one that I'm already and I think the best place to begin is there and then after that it then trickles down to all the other Wikipedia's. I think the same thing will apply to all the other Wikipedia's. Once we are able to, you know, have an impact with the universal code of conduct in the English Wikipedia, I think the other things really is just only going to be a domain of effect that will be happening in all the other Wikipedia's. Once you know that you are comfortable or the universal code of conduct has had an impact on the English Wikipedia, you know, a tangible impact that you would feel that it's a space that is more friendly and not that much hostile anymore because of the universal code of conduct, I think it will give, you know, confidence for you, for one, you know, to explore all the other Wikipedia's without feeling that you are invading on other people's spaces, you know, because you've not contributed so much in that space. So I think yes, it will have a really big impact even on the other Wikipedia project. Is there anything else you would like to share about the universal code of conduct? Any thoughts that you would like also to bring to the process of creating it? I think the universal code of conduct is a very much important instrument in the movement, the Wikimedia movement. I feel that the time is not enough for everyone to, I think it's short, you know, for everyone to be exposed to it. I think more time should have been given to allow a lot of Wikimedians to know about it. And I also think that more Wikimedians should have been involved in the process. You know, I know that the process is going to belong like the 2030 strategy, the movement strategy. But I think it should not only be something of the safety and trust and safety team, but it should also include, you know, the whole movement so that it's more inclusive. And a lot of people know about it and a lot of people engage in it. And I feel that it's that important so that we don't find ourselves in a space where people are just seeing these new things that are imposed on them, which are code of conduct. But we don't really know how the history came about, although there is a history, but there's not that much of involvement of everyone else in the movement. I know that these things are time bound and in order for them to be achieved quickly, you know, we need to target specific people and very active people within specific communities, especially small communities. But I still feel that perhaps the word should have been also spread in social media everywhere and there should have been an aggressive campaign to get more Wikimedians involved in this process. So that's really my honest thought around this. Thank you for this very clear feedback. Thank you so much. I will bring it to the code of conduct drafting committee, but we will also share it with the wider public of Wikimedians. And in a way you are now part of this process to bring it to more and more people.