 I've heard industry rumblings of Cedar Fair executives checking out Velocic coasts throughout Universal's Islands of Adventure and being insanely impressed, enough to the point where they are looking to do multiple LSM launch and roller coasters with Intamin. But again, please take that with a grain of salt. I just want to point out, Brendon, that you've mastered the audio now. Watch it mess up. Stop. Don't jinx it, because when things go wrong, I don't know how to fix it. And I also want to point out, I am slightly envious of Brendon's sweater because look how skinny it makes them look. I love it. It is very nice. That is very nice. Today is my favorite one. You know what? I thought last week's was my favorite. I think they're just getting better and better, but with today's topic? Yes. So I'm sure you guys see the title, $60 million expansion. But we're not going to talk entirely about the $60 million expansion. We're going to talk about an aspect of the $60 million expansion. Heavily in today's podcast. Heavily. And then I'm going to drop some water, some tea later on the stream. Tuesday is going to be a really exciting day for Wonderland. But yeah, how was your week? You know what? My week was... That's great. My week was... You know what? No, no, no, no. So it's always me with the stories. Brendon has a story from actually today. Call him Sparky now. Oh my goodness. Okay, so I got electrocuted. I'm not going to say where, but I got electrocuted. You wrote Thunder Run. And for the first time ever in my life, I got a rude awakening that movies don't over exaggerate. People getting electrocuted. I'm asking the place. I want to ask them for the video footage because I literally flew back. Did you imagine that? My size! The power of electricity is insane. It's like a cannonball. Well, apparently it's muscle spasms that caused it. Like it was my muscles reacting. I don't know. That's crazy. I'm keeping an eye on it. I do have a pulsating just in this finger. So basically what happened is I grabbed something by both hands and this something was touching an outlet. The metal part of this something was touching an outlet and I didn't see it. And when I grabbed it, the outlet was like... Thunder Run. I took off and now this finger's got a little... I feel fine, but this finger's got a pulsating. He took 120 volts like a champ. Yeah, this intimate news has got me so excited. I'm trying to be an Alice on Launch Coaster. It's got my Brandon's brain be like... Oh my goodness. Okay, well, how was your week? You know, it was just the normal work. It got so cold last night I had to plug my car in. It was really cold. I didn't like that. I avoided it. Other than that, it was pretty average. Nothing too exciting. Yeah, what happened here? Oh yeah, look the guys out. So I shave with a straight edge razor because I have really sensitive skin. And razor blades are expensive, you know, like those Gillette razors like 50 bucks for a pack. So I have one singular straight edge blade and I wasn't paying attention yesterday as you can see. And I guess I must have coughed or something and I literally sliced my neck. Like, filleted my neck and it was terrible. There was blood and shaving cream and I put a towel there. I made a little scream. My stepmom came up and she probably had a poor heart attack. She just saw blood all over like... Oh my goodness. It's infected, eh? I just touched it. Yeah, I've been putting polysporin on it. Yeah, keep doing that. You know, just trying to still stay alive. You know, we're trying to stay alive. We both died. Oh man, okay. Outside of that, how many trips did you make to Wonderland to watch them from the parking lot? Three. Okay, it's an improvement. There was weather related issues on some of those days, so I couldn't. I froze the one day. Guys, there's so much snow in the parking lot. They don't plow everything. I was walking like a foot of snow. Who are they plowing for? Me. You? Oh my God. The Karen reviews. I shouldn't include you. They don't plow the snow. I have a little walking path and they didn't plow it. A walking path? More like a nerd path. I bet you wonder that in the securities, like, was there a herd of buffalo walking through year? Like, what is that? You know what? In the summertime, where the toll booths are, like Grass Hill that runs along Jane and the parking lot, there's actually a path, like an imprinted path, maybe 15 feet away from the parking lot. And that's an actual path. Okay, I'm not claiming it's mine, but it's a path that I use. It's a path that many people use. It's okay. Don't get me started. Don't get me started. I go for my exercise. Yeah, okay. Well, on Tuesday, we'll be at Wonderland. Yeah. Yes, we will. We will be at Wonderland. We will be camping there. We'll have some tea. But yeah, there'll be something that we will be... This is amusement insider's news. Have you seen anyone else post this? This is strictly mine is. Should I drop it? I think you're just dropping. The waterslide is arriving on Tuesday. You know what? I was shocked when you told me how early it is. Like, it seems like they got their stuff together. Yeah, they do. They do. It should be arriving with roughly 11 to 22 crates. I can't remember. I have to go back and read my source's little tidbit. But yeah, it should be arriving depending on whether it is coming from Ottawa. I believe it's coming from Ottawa. I don't know exactly where post slides ships their waterslides out of. But the piece is done. And it is on a shipping bed. And it's with 11 to 22 crates that are coming with it. And it should go right into the parking lot with... That is awesome. Yeah. That is awesome. Yeah. So that'll be exciting. It'll be purple. You can't miss it. That's a Surya. They might be like... Oh, it's just a waterslide. If you see anything blue, that's him. But yeah. Okay. So what should we tell? We went over our lives uneventful. Don't know why people are watching us right now. We're literally the biggest losers on the internet. Do you have a girlfriend? Oh! This isn't therapy! I did that the other day! Oh, man. All right. I'm addicted to Wonderland. Look at all these reviews. I'm excited for this. One, two, three, four, five, six parts. Are we jumping? No, let's... No, no, no. No. We have a lot to talk about this podcast. Like this is a... Yeah. Okay. So I made some new cards for the podcast. So when I flip to them, I'm not listening in on my phone. If you guys could rate away type if you can't hear us. Or if you can hear us when we flip to a new card. There's new programming in them. And I just want to make sure it's working. So I don't want to talk for... Sorry. Discord is up here in my face. And I'm just seeing funny images of Syria. But, yeah. What should we do? Should we talk about the themed area, but not touch on... I don't know. I feel like they have to be together. Okay. No, no. We'll start. We'll touch on the themed area. Leave the intimate area. Okay. More tea! Bum, bum, bum! World Expo! What could we be wanting to talk about with World Expo? Well, potentially a new themed area with a new one. It appears there are rumblings. My favorite words are a grain of salt, which to El Toro Ryan uses. I didn't learn that. That's so awesome. Apparently we all use it. So rumblings are starting to form that Wonderland's next area of focus is finally going to be World Expo. Which will be such a breath of fresh air. Like, I'm sorry. Get rid of that... Get rid of Backlot Cafe. Get rid of those other... Like, that building by Extreme Skyflare. It doesn't make sense. They... It needs a whole new facelift. That area needs to be revitalized. They need to put more stuff there. They just... It needs to be redone. And it's going to be so incredible if they do that. I'm so excited. I am very excited, too. I'm so excited. If that beautiful... I don't... I'm going to mispronounce this word. Genza? Yeah, Genza Gardens. Genza Gardens. If they bring that back, Cedar Fair would be like a god to me. I would pray to them. Like, I'm going to build a little shrine. It's going to have, like, Cedar Fair's logo. Just look at how nice that building is. Look at the architecture and stuff. And then look what it is now. Look at this. Oh, thank you, Julian. Genza Gardens is, I believe. Genza. So that, to me, was one of Wonderland's worst decisions. And that falls under Paramount is turning that into Backlot, a square. A very generic cafeteria restaurant. That is 100% going to be... Like, I don't even think you need to have sources or even want... You know that Cedar Fair is going to bring that back. Oh, they... Yeah, they're... Whatever they're going to do, Backlot Cafe is going to be no more. Yeah, like that. They need to get rid of that. Oh, I'd be so excited. And, you know, there's so much space back there. Like, they have so much room to do what they want. It's incredible. There's... World Expo has so much potential now. And when we start talking about Intamin, World Expo's, like, Wonderland's biggest potential now. Like, Frontier Canada was, like, the star to me. And now I'm like, I don't care about you. You done. Like, World Expo, like, we need you. I need these, like, plans to come to fruition. I think it 100% will. Like, it only makes sense. The more... We just started cluing into things and we're like, Holy sh... Shit. Like, this is good. It's going to be exciting. Like, Wonderland could be competing with Kings Island for Coaster Lineup if what happens happens and, like, what we think is going to happen happens. Like, we would be atop to Cedar Fair Park, I think. I think we already are atop. I'd say we're in top three. Cedar Point, Kings Island, us or not. Okay, we're, like, top three, four. Like, I don't know. But this would solidify us as a top three part. Yeah. Like, so, okay, if you could do anything to World Expo, like, what would you do? Like, in detail. Like, if you... Cedar Fair was like, Surya, we don't know what we're doing. Can you design World Expo for us? Well, first thing I would do is obviously do something with Backlot. Like, that's a no-brainer. Re-theme the buildings. Bring some more life and color into the area. Like, make things pop. Make it look nicer. I would look at Extreme Skyflyer. I would see how profitable that is, you know, and what operating conditions could that run. And I would even consider, you know what? It's an old attraction. Maybe it's time to get rid of it. You know, that's a nice plot of land. You could really put something there. I would look at Flight Deck. You know, same thing. I'd be like, you know, it might be time to get rid of some of these attractions. If you think about it, you got rid of Flight Deck, Extreme Skyflyer. Time warp, maybe whatever. But especially with Flight Deck and Extreme Skyflyer, that plot of land you just opened up, you could even go towards the front gate. Like, there is so much potential, you know, for something really cool. Maybe a launch coaster or whatever there is. But that's what I would do. I would look at that potential right there. Yeah. What would you do? What would I do? I feel like this could be a whole two-hour video. What wouldn't I do? So now that we know, and now that we have more details about what Cedar Fair was looking at when they were looking at Intimans, there's like, guys, you have no idea. Wonderland could potentially be getting two Intimans. Two Intimans. Not for that at all. So, but like, I get so like, would you want a wing coaster? Like, how could you not take the opportunity to build a wing coaster for Front Gate and World Expo? Theme to an Asian Dragon. Okay, everybody knows, you know, me and B&M, whatever, like a launch, and you brought this up earlier when we were talking, a wing coaster and Yukon Striker basically do the same thing. Let's be realistic. But imagine like a new fresh design, like an Intamin or something, like that would be something completely different. And I think they could probably do something pretty cool if they swing that out into the parking lot. An Intamin? Would they swing an Intamin out into the parking lot, though you'd not know, Sam? I don't know. I'm literally just thinking of this now. It would be more unique than Cedar... That's going to be a thumbnail photo! Okay, sorry, sorry. Discord distracted us. I think it would be more unique because if we did a wing coaster at the Front Gate, it would look so cool. Theme to a Chinese Dragon would be friggin' awesome. But it would be kind of similar to Cedar Point. I think an Intamin or a different make with maybe a different style would be more unique to Wonderland. Okay, stop looking at the Discord screen. Drink your beverage. I know. So first of all, I think I couldn't pass up. I don't want a wing coaster, but if I was thinking Cedar Ferrying Capacity, I couldn't pass up a wing coaster. Replace Flight Deck and Sky Flyer with a wing coaster that then does the little keyholes with the new Front Gate. Right. And then the LSM launch over in Kingswood, and then that's it. Re-theme the rest and upgrade the restaurant. And I think that is a complete package right there. Just like Frontier Canada. Wait, did Frontier Canada have two roller coasters? No, it didn't. It has one. But you know, like... Frontier Canada's the only... The other Intamin's most likely going to be in the mountain. Which I'm pretty happy about. Yeah. Because that means... And it makes sense. Like when we start talking about Intamin now and we talk about Wonderland's biggest kind of downfalls, it makes sense why Cedar Fair visited the two parks that they did to look at the Intamin's. No, it does. 100%. And so... No, we can't talk about Intamin yet. World Expo, World Expo, World Expo, World Expo. Okay, Intamin is a whole subject, guys. It's a whole subject. Okay. There are more than one park going to get Intamin's, by the way, too. There's multiple... If these rumors turn out to be true. But I think that Wonderland... If you just looked at Wonderland, you would know Intamin's coming. Like there's nothing else. Like Intamin's coming. I really hope so. I think you really hope so. Like Intamin would offer something... No, we're talking about Intamin. It's supposed to be World Expo. We're talking about Intamin. It's so exciting though. We said the whole podcast is going to be Intamin now because all this news is... I can't look at Discord. All this news is going to be so great. Okay, so... Yeah, my World Expo plans would be the two roller coasters. I don't even think they need any more flat rides. No more flat rides. No more! No! No! What would you theme Backlot Stunk Coaster and Behemoth to, though? For World Expo. World Expo might be easy because you could put Behemoth as some sort of international... Yeah. Like you could make an international beast out of Behemoth. Honestly, I think I would keep Behemoth the same but I would actually just properly theme it. Like... Give it a sign. Give... Maybe put some nice rock work or something. You know, give it a paint job. Yeah. Hello? It's coming! It's coming. I'm putting my money down and it's happening this spring. I'm just like... $5? $10! $10! I bet $10 that Behemoth is going to get painted this spring. $10! $10! It's Behemoth or Vortex. I don't think anything... I don't think anything... Okay, so $10, so one of the two is going to be painted. Yeah. And... Okay. Backlot... Backlot could be really... I don't know. I think Backlot could be themed to almost anything. A shipping container, right? What are we shipping? Like, I can't even say the joke even though it's not that bad but like, what is it? The international shipping crisis of COVID? The Suez Canal! Yeah, you need anything. It's going to take three months to get to you. But if you get on your own coaster, you can get it in no time. That makes no sense. I will say it. You know what? I will say it. I think it would be cool if Action Zone could become like amalgamated with World Expo. Like, just get rid of Action and just have it all World Expo because Action... It has to. Yeah, Action is... It's dead. Like, Action Zone to me is like one of the biggest... The colors... The architecture... It just doesn't make sense. It screams Paramount. Like, it doesn't make sense. I think it's Cedar Faire's vision. That is a beautiful idea off-roading with jeeps in a jungle. Kind of like that. That would be so cool. Yeah, it would be cool. Actually, King's Dominion should do that with their new Jungle X area. So, what rides do you see evidently, like 100% leaving with the World Expo expansion? Or, what would you call this? Well, I guess it would be an expansion. Yeah, it would be an expansion slash reefing. I honestly... And this is one that I've only started thinking of recently. I think Extreme Skyflyer is on its way out. It is. That has to be on its way out. Obviously, like, you know, like, flight duck and time warp. That... I have to remove the discord screen. Please do. Brandon, that's not okay. That's not okay. So, yeah, flight duck and time warp. I think everyone kind of thinks they're on their way out or should be on their way out. But I can also see Extreme going. Yeah. And Backwatt needs to... What about you? Extreme Skyflyer's ridership. I know it. The numbers are decreasing every year. So, Slingshot's doing really well. So, that should stay, even though I think it's ugly. It seems like Extreme has a lot of downtime too recently, or just... I think that's staffing. They don't operate it. So, Extreme's one of those rides. So, here's some tea. Hopefully, I don't say too much. So, what Wonderland does when they're hiring for the park? Extreme Skyflyer is one of those rides where you need your smartest employees. You're like... You're employees that are really like strong. So, whenever they're interviewing, they're strongest candidates. They actually place into a pool for Extreme Skyflyer. So, there's reasons for that. One being safety, or literally in charge of. So, the strongest workers work Extreme Skyflyer. Whenever the park is experiencing staffing shortages on rides, vacation time, and all that, they actually pull from Extreme Skyflyer because it's... You know, it's okay to close Extreme Skyflyer to staff the other rides. I think they would remove the one, two, three, that whole rectangle. Like just make it one nice long. Yeah, like a bolt of... Imagine the announcement. And Wonderland is announcing the removal of flight deck, time warp, Extreme Skyflyer swings in the century, back clock cafe. There goes a quarter of the park. No one will miss it. That would be a dream. I wish as a line of bulldozers ready to go. Give me the wrecking ball. We are the wrecking ball. Look at you. You're in so much trouble. Okay, okay, okay. What should we do next? We can't talk about intimate yet. I feel like that has to be the finale. Bam! Throw, punch them. The audience, we have them captivated. Holy! Sorry, I just saw how many people are watching right now. That's our highest number so far. That's awesome. Thank you. Okay, so should we do? No, let's do the Surya surprise. You know what? I'm riled up. I am riled up. Let's do it. So this was supposed to be the one thing that triggers you, but I think the reviews are going to be the thing that literally like chokes you, like Homer Simpson strangling Bart. But here we go. Dear Surya with love. How do you feel about, you know, the beast getting all that retracking back in the day? Oh! No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, you know what? You guys want to rant. This is, here's the thing. So everyone who goes to Wonderland has this perception that wooden coasters are horrible. They're rough. You know, they're rattle-y. They hurt your back. It's not true. Guys, it's not true. The Beast of Kings Island, the voyage, all these rides, Mystic Timbers, they are literally smoother than most B&M's. Are they not? Are they not saying? Are you going to let me talk? Are they not? Yes! Yes, they are smoother than most B&M's. Why are they smoother? Why are they smoother? Okay, Mystic Timbers is new. The Beast is older than Canada's Wonderland. Why is it smoother than Leviathan? Because they maintain it. Here you go. I'm just going to point the mic towards you. This is your time. They maintain it, guys. They retract it. And when they retract it, they don't do the top two layers of wood. They do all eight pliable layers. When they retract it, they don't do 80 foot segments. No, they do two 3,000 foot long segments. Guys, Wonderland, please. No, this is what's so frustrating, guys, because wooden coasters. And I know most people in here are probably enthusiasts and whatever, but you know that wooden coasters are... I prefer wooden coasters over steel coasters because I think they're more aggressive. It feels more natural. It's more low to the ground. No, right? Am I right? Yeah, I'm right. And so I think a good wooden coaster is easily the most popular ride at a park if not one of the most popular rides like The Beast, Mystic Timbers. Those rides always get, you know, 45 plus minute waits. Mindbuster and Wild Beast at Wonderland literally feel like they're going to fall apart. It feels like your spine is breaking. Why is that? When all these other parks can do it? Why? Why can't our wooden coasters be just as smooth and age is not an excuse? Age or manufacture, make and model is not an excuse because The Beast at Kings Island is the end all argument. All it requires is just maintenance. You know, redo the wood, redo the running rails, grease it, grease it. That's another thing. Grease it. You have to grease the rails at least once a week. Do you guys know? So let me tell you a little bit now about like the science and the engineering behind this. In the summer, when it gets really hot and it's not the rainy season, wood tends to warp and shrink, right? Because wood has moisture in it. So the moisture comes out, the boards will start to shrink, they'll shrink, they'll crack. That's what contributes to some of the roughness. Some of these parks, do you know what they do? They have sprinkler systems to periodically literally hose down the ride just to get the wood wet and so it can retain and absorb the moisture. That is how you properly maintain these wooden attractions. And don't tell me Mindbuster isn't popular. People would love Mindbuster. Like Mindbuster is a good ride. It needs a lot of work, but it is a good ride. And I think people would absolutely love it. If it was smoother, not some more modern trains, but I don't understand why. Why not? When they retract it, they only do the top two layers of wood and it just blows my mind. You would think they'd want to spend one season completely redoing it, then they wouldn't have to do it for ten years. I'm sorry. I'm actually getting frustrated. I just mentioned the beast, I didn't even get to talk about Grizzly's... Oh my God! And then they're working with Gravity Group. They are working with the most innovative wooden coaster manufacturer and they're working with Gravity Group, not only so the beast is all in house, but then King's Dominion literally went to Gravity Group and they're like, you know what, you need to completely redo Grizzly. Grizzly is a mirror image of the wild beast at Wonderland and they're redoing the whole track. That's going to buy the Rhinox for 15, 20 years. It's going to be smooth. It's probably going to be a little bit more intense. Why can't we do that? It would literally cost a park the size of Wonderland nothing to go and do. I apologize. Calm down. Don't have to worry. Yes, yes. What is that? We need, we need, we need a Millennium Flyer trains. Rant or a wine. Woof! Woof! Okay. Wow. So, I'm glad you could get your feelings though. I feel like we should go to a smash room. I need water. My blood pressure has been raised. You raised my blood pressure. Okay. Wow. I mean, people are agreeing with you, so that's good. I am so sorry, guys, but that is honestly, like, it's one of the biggest frustrations because Wonderland has some of the best maintenance in the industry. We have some of the best track record in the industry. We do. I just don't understand, like, why our two wooden coasters are also probably some of the roughest in the industry. People are telling you to drink I will drink my twisted tea. Oh, wow. Um, so, that was serious. I feel, I feel like I need to give you a break before I start this next time. My heart, my blood pressure, like, I don't, I feel like I can't go into this next second because you're going to, like, slap me. You're going to back am me. Okay, I'm just going to do it, guys. Here we go. What? What? What is this? What? No, no, no. You got them confused. It's supposed to be the other way around. We literally, you say Leviathan is a kid's coaster. Yukon puts people to sleep. Oh my God. I like, it's not. Okay, like, like, how is Leviathan a character? How is Yukon king? What's the king of the swamp? That's basically Shrek. Unbelievable. My hair's better, just so you know. Yeah, I haven't even gotten there. Why does my hair look so good? Is there a studio at least you have hair now? Okay, blueberry. Leviathan's never looked better. I did want to point out the drawing of Yukon Striker there, it's by a really talented artist. Let me go get the exact Instagram account. Instagram changed their layout. It's so hard. So on Instagram, c-p-a-l-t-w-i-n-g-e-d six to four, c-p-a-l-t-winged six 24 on Instagram. That's their drawing on the right. It's really good. You guys should check it out. I edit it, like, cut off like three quarters of it. But yeah, you can get these really cool drawings and things. The artwork is not the problem. The artwork, that artist is amazing. What's problem here is that crown. What you should have done in editing is just cut all of it out. Way too quiet. I'm sorry. Is it way too quiet, guys? I'm going to have to fix that. Where is it? Okay. No, it looks like I'm saying, audio is good. Okay. It's the exchange. It's the difference of going from quiet-ish to super screaming. Oh, the music's really loud. I got to edit that. I got to edit that. The music of the technical difficulties is way too loud. Someone had said that. Okay. So our first review is from Barack Obama. Oh, you know this is going to be accurate. So these are Leviathan reviews. I have to get really close. I'm sorry, guys. You're going to get really ugly. My friend waited in line for five hours for a 40-second ride. Okay. You know what? No. I can promise you guys I can promise you he did not wait five hours. Two, two-and-a-half at max. No one has ever waited five hours for Leviathan. I can promise you that. And you know what? Like, what's he going to go ride then? You, Connie, he's going to say the same thing. Then he doesn't have to ride Leviathan. I hope he never does. Are you calling Obama? Yeah, I am. I am. And we just got Wow. He looks like he had a poor visit and it looks like Leviathan was the main reason for that. What else do you think he had much more for? He could go ride Toxijan then. Maybe he'll like that better. I think I should get my hair styled like that. Yes, you should. I'll review those part, too. Is this literally all Leviathan? It is for a bit, yeah. Oh, my God. Of the big three coasters at Canada's Wonderland and the four giga coasters I've written. Oh, good for you. Leviathan's my least favorite in both categories. What's better at Wonderland? Who does he probably should say Yukon. He's probably a dive coaster enthusiast. I don't know, Syria. They're a local guide. Oh, yeah. Is it a local? Is it the same person? You unedited it. It's my face. It probably is. It probably is. Oh, man. A lot of people do think Behemoth is better than Leviathan. I will say that. I've heard that, too, but you know what, though? That's a personal thing, so I can't get upset about that, even though it bothers me. I can't get upset about it. A lot of people are saying they like Behemoth better. I can't get upset about it. I can't get upset about it. Behemoth? I'm getting worked up. I'm getting worked up. I'm getting worked up. Behemoth is good when the trim is not trimming, but Leviathan with nylon wheels, like the wheel heaters are on just on a hot day is superior in my opinion. There's something else to read. That's all I want to know. I don't want to know what other four giga coasters this person is talking about. He probably thinks Millennium Force is better. You sound like Trisha Paytas right now. The way, how fast you're talking. Yeah, I feel like I'm going to have a heart attack. You kind of look like her. What about you? Yeah. This person writes, I don't see what all the hype was about. It was mid at best. You know what? How do I know this is about Leviathan and not about Yukon? It is about Leviathan. Trust me. I just have to edit out their names. I got legal advice that editing out their names and photo was a must. What else is better at Wonderland? This person probably thinks Time Warp is better. There are several things better at Wonderland. We have Taxi Jam. Year round attraction almost at Wonderland. It holds up the park. I can't hold up. The rage. I hate you. Oh man. The funnel cakes are better too apparently according to Jake. I'm so flushed because of all this. I am too. Okay. Review number. Oh, I can't read that. Uh-oh. I see a 4.9 under Leviathan. So we're just going to say Leviathan's 4.9 out of 5. Review done. I didn't think about this. I can't see this, guys. If you could read this, that's more negative review. Yeah, I can't. It's probably all positive. It's probably about Yukon. I think there's like a waste of space. Year round Winterfest attraction would do great here. Oh, yeah. Because Yukon is definitely superior. Remove Leviathan for a Ferris wheel. I see that. I have a question, guys. I have a question. I don't like Leviathan. How come there's always a long line for it? Stalls a lot. But fun is one of them. Thank you, the random view. Stalls? What is that? What is Stalls a lot? It hasn't valid in four years. It's gone very slow. It broke down after waiting 30 minutes. Wasn't fixed for another 20 minutes. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Are you saying a machine malfunction for 20 minutes? Guys, guys, I know it looks like I need glasses, but the podcast screen, the software I use, it's like this tiny little box on my computer. And then this is like the podcast screen. Because I have like the YouTube control center. Just saying. Yukon is never valid. Oh, my goodness. Jacob. Look at Justin. He put you. My glasses. My height doesn't have any stalls. And it's layout. Wait. Time's not worth it, is the other one says the random view. Thank you. More negativity. I think you guys are wrong, though. I do see something. One of the comments definitely says the color scheme on Leviathan is subpar at best. You know, I see another comment too saying that Yukon's tunnel occasionally floods. Oh, this one says that the shipping container that is used as Leviathan's drop tunnel is actually just on the ride. So when they do plan on selling it to the C&E, they can just ship it in that shipping container. No, no, no. This one says the luggage, the bin system is more exciting for your loose articles on the ride is for the riders. Oh, okay. Okay. This one's saying the operations at Leviathan are subpar at best. This one says the drop floor can't support your weight. Oh, okay. This one says that the ride only runs as fast when Suri is on it because of his weight. That's the reason it's installed in so long. I'm wondering if it should just hire you. This one says something that always smells like Goose crap. The lake. This is something about a swamp, Shrek the Coaster. You know what? I live in that tunnel. I can tell. That's why it needs to be so big. Oh. Oh. That was an apart. Okay. Reviews part five. I can read this one. Ride close so many times when it opened. We just, we were just about to get on, but they kicked us off and closed it again. Is that that time you got hit by a seagull? You know what? Clearly these people don't understand how things work. I would kick them off too. Oh, really? This is a local guide. This is the same person. I swear to God. No, no, no, local guide is a badge you get if you live in the area. Well, well, this person clearly hasn't lived in the area for that long. They don't know what's going on. Once upon a time when Paramount operated Wonderland. Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah. Backlot Cafe. It was incredible. Today, the park is a disgrace in comparison. Yeah. It's a mess. Poorly maintained. No crowd control. No visible posted wait time. Well, obviously they haven't seen it. Come on. Lines for absolutely everything including an hour for snacks wasn't worth the free ticket unless you're looking for a day or evening out to walk around. Even then, not likely to return. Did I review this last week? No, because what free ticket? Free ticket? You know what? Paramount literally ruined Wonderland, okay? We wouldn't have behemoth Leviathan, Yukon, Striker, Windseeker, Guardian. We could have done without. Skyhawk, any of these attractions, Tundra Twister, we wouldn't have any of this if it wasn't for Paramount, okay? We wouldn't have, you know, Lazy Bear Lodge. You know what we'd have? We'd probably have like Studio Six Warehouse. Pizza Pizza. Yeah, we'd have Pizza Pizza Lodge. Yeah, they'd build a Pizza Pizza in the mountain. That'd be pretty cool, actually. But we wouldn't have anything cool. We would literally have parking lot shows. Oh my goodness, what else would we have? It'd be terrible. It would absolutely be terrible. Yeah, it would be terrible. We wouldn't have anything. We'd have like five more rides by, I don't know, by the time. Apparently you're wording, you said we wouldn't have Leviathan without Paramount. Oh, we wouldn't have Leviathan without Cedar Fair. Yeah. I was in a rant. My blood pressure is high. Yes, it is. I think that's it for reviews. Did I trigger you? Okay, let's take your pause. Let's take your pause. My hand is shaking. I'm not even like... I know, I know. That felt like a heartbeat. Yeah, this is my second heart. I agree. We have a new segment, guys. It's called Red Flags. And in today's episode we have Flight Deck. I don't know any of you who have been in relationships recently, but Flight Deck is quite the red flag. It is. It 100% is. God, this is worse than my current relationship. I'm kidding. Oh, my God. You can't just... So, I thought we would say our red flags for Flight Deck. What? Excuse me? The truth comes out he can't handle Leviathan. So we'll talk about our red flags for Flight Deck and you guys post your little red flags for Flight Deck and we'll read them. Okay, what's your red flag for Flight Deck? Where do we start? This is the relationship that you got into thinking was all great because it looked good from afar and then you started dating it and you were like... Wow, you're problematic. That sounds like a lot of her exes. Okay, well my first red flag is where are the new trains? If you plan on keeping this Wonderland the new trains. You know what my red flag is? Why Wonderland even wants to keep this? No, I'm being serious. The trains are only half the issue. The track design is the problem. They stole the track from Arrow. The track was never designed for this type of these type of elements, this type of inversions. Any type of trains of these weight these trains weigh a lot more than the standard Arrow looping trains. So, I don't know. I don't know what's going on and Vakoma makes new stuff. They do and it's good. Yeah, it's good stuff. So, they could replace this easily, even for whatever reason even if Wonderland's like no, you know what I want to replace it with the modern version of this by Vakoma. Well, at least just do something. Just don't keep it. That is a red flag keeping this. Every season they keep this longer means that our hopes and dreams are slowly getting crushed. My red flag for this ride is people riding it with earrings. How are they even people? That's actually a good point. Yeah. That could be dangerous. Maybe someone with those big hoop earrings going on flight deck, you'll like red flag. Red flag. Then I think another red flag for this ride would be the amount of lost articles because don't they close it every X amount of time to do it. Yes, that's a huge red flag. Oh my God. That can be very frustrating for operators for the park, for people in line. I don't know why anyone's in line, but for the people in line, so I think they need to maybe implement that. So Jake says the poutine shop out front is that still there? That's not there anymore. No. They move that to Frontier Canada. It used to be in the truck, right? Yeah. And they re-themed the truck to this like country wagon for Frontier Canada. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So let's read some of their red flags. Flight deck is fun. Where red flag is, flight deck is fun at Canada's Wonderland. Pain means fun. Not insulting or maybe even if it's a little bit rough, but flight deck is just unbearable. This one! This one! You can see the train shimmy as it's coming down the drop. If you film it in slow-mo, it's the funniest thing ever. You literally see the train at the person's head like. So that's from the wheel gap. There is so much clearance that the train has enough room to bounce back and forth between the rails. Oh, I think we have a ride-off at the end of the day. We'll cause us to close the ride every few hours or so for Lost Article Search. I think that's kind of ridiculous. I'm not blaming Wonderland at all for it. Red flag not having more in the park which we even need the water park for. That's prime land for another three-flight deck. Couldn't agree more. Oh my goodness. My red flag is that an instrument should be taking up this water land. Yeah, a bathroom should be occupying this water land more than flight deck should. A flight deck is smoother than B-stone at me. That's a red flag. That comment is a red flag. That comment is a red flag. That comment is a red flag. Oh, that's shorted. Oh! True. Heart, heart, we love you. We love you. Do you have anything? Do you have any other hate comments? The paint job, the paint job, this gray, Oh, it's peeling off too. It looks like me when I sunburn. Very easily. Oh man. 118 of you are watching us talk about red flags on Flight Deck. Oh my goodness. Okay. Do we have any other segments before we get into... We don't. How long have we been live for? Only 47 minutes? Only. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. We're on our final topic. Well, this is a long topic. Yeah? Wow. I guess we're going to have like an hour and 15 minutes stream today and then we'll go into the Hangout. So for those of you that are watching right now, what we do, little advertisement, self-promo, blah, blah, blah. You can buy my merch in the... Just below the... I'm kidding. You can join me on Patreon. I'm kidding. We're going to do a little Hangout. We always do Hangouts after our podcast. So just come in and we'll literally just talk with you guys. That's all we do. The comment section is the thing. When we're doing the podcast, we don't really answer the comment section too often because we're trying to keep it in time. But the Hangout session afterwards is so much better. So join us for the second stream after the podcast. And it's a little more casual so we can just try it if you want to just try it. Someone edited you with Karen hair behind me. Then what am I doing? You're smoking. Okay. Final topic. Kachow! I just want to point out how awesome your thumbnail for this looks. Thank you. I put a lot of effort. My thumbnails are great though. I wasn't saying that. They are. Okay, calm down. I'm looking in the mirror right now and I'm like, you look good. You guys see his belt? Look, it's okay. Look at that. That was playing dumb. Okay, we're back. Intense coasters. Is it going to happen? Let's start off with that conversation. What is Wonderland lacking right now? 100% an intense coaster. Yeah, so you just admitted to Leviathan sex. So on that note, now that we finally got to it, I just realized I have a pile of snacks sitting next to me and I didn't remove it before the stream. They're healthy. So Wonderland definitely lacks an intense coaster. I will 100% attest to that. Not saying that Leviathan Yukon or Behemoth are bad, but they are designed for the majority of Wonderland's guests to ride and enjoy. Stop looking at the Discord screen. So Wonderland is 100% lacking an intense coaster. And before, if you sat us down even a week ago and was like, would Wonderland ever build an intimate? Or would Wonderland ever build a super intense coaster? We would be like, have you seen who's running the park? Not in a bad way, but you know, he's been there for a while. He likes his B&M's. An intense coaster, but it really seems like Cedar Fair is taking over picking the investments for parks now. Which is spot on. 100%. So there's two rumors that we're now hearing. And we're going to talk in detail about why Wonderland is actually the center. The center of why Cedar Fair might be looking at intimate. Remember that statement because it's a strong one. And trust me, it makes sense. It makes sense. We were literally like... So Wonderland has three B&M's right now. And if you talk to the most guests, what do they say about those B&M's? All two of them. You know what? I'll even, like Yukon may have the inversions, but all B&M's, all new B&M's essentially kind of run the same. You know, they're a little more tamer. They have the more drawn out elements. You know, it's the same basic floater airtime or the zero G elements, stuff like that. It's stuff that anyone can ride really without a struggle. I'm not saying that intimate designs rides any more that try and kill you, but it's not... They're not just up there. You know, like they're good, but on a thrill level, there is a lot more out there. That is a lot more thrilling. Not saying that B&M's are bad because, you know, I love Leviathan and all, but... I just had to insert the... Don't look at Discord. I just had to insert that. But it would be nice to get something different and something more unique to Wonderland because Wonderland has nothing, nothing like an Intamin. That was a really long way of saying that we need an Intense Coaster. That was a really long way. What were we talking about? Intense Coaster's Intamin. I'm sorry. No, I got lost. Discord, okay, look at the screen. So Wonderland really is lacking an Intense Coaster. Like it really is. When you literally just walk around the park and listen, especially when you're... A lot of people will be like, one, the debate of what's better, Behemoth vs. Leviathan, is a lot stronger than you would even like to admit. It's very up in the air of which one's better. I personally do think that Leviathan is better. I will admit that here on the stream. But there are a lot of people who debate it. There's a lot of people who think they're literally the exact same thing. And Wonderland's got to be hyper aware of that. Now, what else do you see when you open up Google Reviews and search one-star reviews, which is a heavily common theme over the last couple years? What do you see? You might not know, because I've been going through them a lot searching, but what do you think you would see if you open up the one-star reviews of Wonderland? Well, for one, like you just said, it's all very similar. You know, the big three are very similar. And they all do the same thing, which kind of means there's a lack of, you know, really intense ride that would draw somebody in and be like, oh my God, like I just grayed out or oh my God, what just happened? Like that inversion was so fast. Like Wonderland doesn't have anything like that. Yeah. Well, one of the main themes I see now is the long lines. Like, yeah. And Wonderland has been building pretty good capacity rides. But what attraction out there? It has a really good capacity and a really good use of heavy trains. Velocic coaster. Velocic coaster. And it has the intimate LSM coasters, correct me if I'm wrong, has the potential to have a moving station as well. So let's say Cedar Fair was looking at a park like Wonderland with a growing metropolitan area around it, right? So and our attendance has surpassed four million. We're heading up there and more homes are getting built and more people are looking to spend money in the BGTA because a lot of people unfortunately can't afford to travel as much. So Wonderlands and we're about to host two major events now. So there's that one sporting event that's happening in, there's two sporting events there, major sporting events. I mean, there's the NHL thing. The NHL thing that just got announced, but there's another one. I think it's soccer or something. I could be mistaken. But there's two. So there is a huge draw that Wonderland World Cup. Okay, that one's a lot bigger. So Cedar Fair has this like now this ability to like bring people in. And it's going to be a continuous problem slash benefit that Cedar Fair has with this park. So they need to start thinking outside the box. They can't keep building these amusement park attractions. They need to start building these. They will never build a Velocicoster with all the theming and the 12 trains. That's not what I'm saying guys. But Wonderland is in desperate need of that attraction that steps outside the comfort zone of a BNM intensity, steps outside the comfort zone of a BNM even capacity-wise with the trains. And I really think that Cedar Fair was looking at Velocicoster because of Wonderland. We know that they're also looking at Busch Gardens for another attraction, which we'll get to in a second. But when you think about Velocicoster, could you see one at Cedar Point? I mean, they already have Maverick, but if they wanted to update that, yeah, I could see that. I could see Intamin wanting to say, you know what, we have the biggest Intamin multi-launch in the world. I could see Cedar Point wanting that eventually. I really don't think they would build an LSM multi-launch at Cedar Point until Maverick was removed. And there's no signs that they would want to remove Maverick yet, right? That's true. That's true. So let's remove Cedar Point from the equation, which I wasn't ready to do when I made my LSM Intamin coaster video a day ago. So Cedar Point is now removed from the equation. Can Knottsbury Farm both fit an LSM coaster or would they with accelerator? 100% no. So let's remove Knottsbury Farm. Now remember, Cedar Fair will never build a $30 million coaster at a smaller park. So remove all those under 2.5 million attendance parks from the equation as well. So Dornie World's a fun valley fair. Kings Island. Could they build an LSM coaster at Kings Island? I could see that. So Kings Island's an attender. Is that the right word? A contender. Contender. Carolins. Could they build an LSM launch coaster at Carolins? They could, but since they got Copperhead Strike that technically is a multi-launch, I don't think it would be happening for a while, so I would rule them out. I wouldn't rule them out completely, but Carolins is a potential contender. So you have Carolins as spot number three, right? Yep. Kings Island as spot number two, maybe spot number one, depending on how we want to look at it. They fought for that giga too. Keep that in mind. So if you're a business person thinking about Kings Island's business strategies, they fought for that $30 million investment. Really hard. So Kings Dominion. Could they be a contender for an intimate LSM launcher? Highly likely, right? I think it is highly likely, but they have so much competition from Bush Gardens, Williamsburg, which just got an intimate multi-launch. Yeah. But they need to replace Volcano. They need to replace Volcano. But when you look at the investments Kings Dominion is potentially making, so when you saw that wing coaster get whipped up, it was maybe what, a $15, $16 million wing coaster? It won't, if Kings Dominion gets intimate multi-launch, it will be nowhere near the sizes of Volcanoes in my opinion. So that leaves us with Wonderland. What park is most likely to get that $30 million intimate LSM launch coaster? It would make sense for Wonderland because you would be killing so many birds with one stone. You know, boom, we got a launch. Boom, we got something intense and unique. Boom, we got something with a great capacity. It's hard. Yeah, keep going, sorry. No, no, and I know Cedar Fair doesn't really do the theming, but an intimate multi-launch would really work just about... There's Discord! Well, Brendan's had a technical difficulty. I think an intimate multi-launch would work almost anywhere. You could put that under Leviathan. You could put that in World Expo. You could put that in Frontier Canada. That works so well. I almost died. I was trying to drink and swallow. I could doll. It's a no-brainer. It's literally a no-brainer. Honestly, I know we have no factual basis other than we know that... And I will say this is a rumor and it needs to be taken with a grain of salt, but there are several reasons to believe this. It is pretty much confirmed, especially this new one that Cedar Fair was over at Bush Gardens Park looking at one. It's confirmed. So, I think that they're 100% looking at intimants, and it would make sense they were looking at Velocicoaster and... Don't say the name, but someone from Canada's Wonderland is heading to Florida in a week. Someone working at Canada's Wonderland is heading to Florida in a week. And they just stressed to us that it was a personal trip. I don't believe that. Pleasure. Pleasure trip. Alone? Really? Alone? Really on a business trip for the first half of it? I think we're gonna get an LSM, multi-launch coaster at Canada's Wonderland in Kingswood's plot of land, and it's inevitable. And why? I feel like I should break it, because I know. Yeah, tell me. Tell us why. Tell us why we want to know! Okay, so, guys, there's a huge puzzle piece that is literally before us, and it's been before us for six to seven years. Wonderland has been working on its power grid for the last six to seven years. It has hired a permanent electrical company to be on property upgrading its electrical grid. That was also because of attractions like Yukon Striker. Yes, but they are still on site to the state working daily upgrading the power grid. What are they about to do? They're about to upgrade the transformers next to Behemoth's Helix. What could that possibly mean, Mr. Engineer? That means that they need a large influx of power delivered to a certain area of the park. And for them to just put a new transformer in, normally a transformer of this size can supply enough power for 30, 40 homes for two, three, four attractions like Behemoth. I know Backlot's on its own, but Behemoth, Sludgehammer, Cyclone, all of that could be powered with one transformer. But if you have an LSM, that requires a tremendous amount of energy. So you would need A, updated electrical, which they're doing, and B, a more dedicated power supply unit, which from what Brendan just told us is something that they're doing. And furthermore, if they're putting it by Behemoth, what's in the Behemoth area? Kingswood, what did they do two years ago? What ride did they build its own little power grid for? Backlot Stunk Coaster. Why would they want to do that? To take it off the main grid so it doesn't put more pressure on it. To make room for... Multi-launch! I think it is so... like the proof is in the pudding that Wonderland is looking... that Wonderland is looking for a multi-launch coaster. Whether that be a mock double-launch or an intimate LSM launch, we are going to get a launch coaster in the next two coasters. I don't know what our 2025 coaster is going to be. The fact that they're looking at it right now, I don't know if that means they've purchased one and they're kind of just like... thing. But... because now we know that they're looking at another coaster, potentially, for Wonderland. And again, I think the proof is in the pudding. That's also a tire drive launch, but it's still... Oh, okay. So it's still as a launch. For Wondermountain's basement would be my guess. I can't see that fitting in action theater, but... I can't see them building a whole new facility when they have a perfectly available facility. The only two places I could see a ride like... can we say the ride? Sure. A dark coaster at Busch Gardens Williamsburg. So dark coaster, they used to have a ride called Dark Castle. It was like a 4D adventure ride, huge indoor building. They got rid of it and they replaced it with this intimate multi-launch. It's a motorbike coaster. But the whole thing with it is that it's indoors. Now, Kings Island has one huge indoor building and obviously elephant in the room. Wondermountain, there is... okay, not Fred. So... But guys, there is a lot of room in Wondermountain's basement. Like, I don't think most people realize how much room is in there, you could put on... you could put almost a full-size roller coaster in there and still have room for other attractions. I'm so excited. Like... It would be a Winterfest ride, guys. A proper Winterfest. That's it, that's it. And the reason being, the reason they visited that coaster was one, Kings Dominion, guys. So, I had heard that they were looking for multiple parks, one being Winterfest, but you brought up a good point that you think Kings Dominion would be the highest contender for that ride, but I think Wonderland would be too. And other parks that operate like Kings Island I think would be a good contender for a dark coaster as well. Just because, but they already have an indoor launch coaster, so maybe not. That's not as true. But I think Kings Dominion and Wonderland would be that top park that would be a contender for that dark coaster. So I really think, again, take this with a grain of salt, but the rumblings are suggesting that Wonderland could be up for two intimants. Could you imagine? Could you imagine? They need that indoor coaster at Wonderland desperately, desperately. So, and it amazes me that Cedar Fair has been doing these tours recently. So, like, when you look at a B&M, could a B&M really fit in Wonder Mountain? 100% right. No. Like, there is a lot of space, but B&M has that really wide track, and it does the wide turns and stuff. So, yeah, that's not right. Yeah. I'm, like, ecstatic because regardless of what coasters they're going to build, the rumblings coming out of Wonderland are insane. Like, you have the front gate Renault rumblings, you have the World Expo rumblings, you now have Intamin rumblings. Like, it's so, and the investments that Cedar Fair is able to make into the park to the Canadian dollar is astronomical. And this would be the time to get something like Intamin, like just, hey, you know what, give them that 50, 60, 70 million dollars for the next five years while the dollar is in its current situation. They would profit off of it. Yep. So, it only makes sense now is the time to invest. And not only that, like, you know, like you've said it so many times, and we've, sorry, and we've seen, you know, especially last year, look how busy Wonderland is getting. We need higher capacity attractions. We need more unique attractions. We need, you know, we need somewhere to put these people. And, you know, with Intamin's new trains and their new station designs and their higher capacity layouts, like, this would be perfect. Yeah. So, Braden, you asked a question. What if the indoor is a 2024 coaster? Haha. That would explain the no signs and they built dark coaster really quickly. I'm going to sound really cocky for a second, guys. And it's meant to just like re solidify that I've worked my butt off. And I have really good sources now. So, if Wonderland was building something inside the mountain, I can promise you I would know. If they've started. Now, if they haven't, then my sources wouldn't know. But, for example, I know that a maintenance shed is being built for Thunder Run inside the mountain. There's no signs of it anywhere. I wouldn't have known if I wasn't tipped off. But they're building a maintenance shed to hold the train inside the mountain for Thunder Run. It should actually almost be, should be done by the time the park opens this year. And you'll be able to see it on the ride depending on how well they hide it. It's right before you enter that tunnel into the turn to the station. But I would know. So, there are certain things that I would get tipped off right away about. For example, the water slide pieces arriving in the parking lot around Tuesday. That's exciting. There's a lot, yeah. So, like, I'll know certain things. Obviously, sometimes it's a hidden miss. For example, I knew the restaurant, what, a year and a half before it was built? Before that, technically, the original source. This makes me wonder, though, what's going on with Action Theatre. Because I have more rumblings about Action Theatre not being salvageable anymore. Maybe they'll just keep it for a while. But apparently, Action Theatre is in disarray. It's got an infestation. It looked pretty good when we were in there. It looked good to me, I guess. But apparently, raccoons are tearing up the inside. Like, literally tearing it up. Maybe it is going to be time for that to go. I mean, that could be for like, way like 2027, they get rid of that and use that land for something else. Yeah. Probably another flat ride. So, it has a raccoon run, but apparently the building's in a lot more disarray than I even thought. And maybe that's what happened with that dark ride. It just disappeared. So, when Secret Fair was like, well, you know, what the mountain needs work to. And, you know, I think an intimate, like, you know, indoor motorbike style coaster would be a lot more successful. And it would be, you know, a more thrilling attraction that wonderland could run during a winter fast. What is that? It's like, are you blowing your nose? I don't know. Who's blowing my nose? That's not my head. Sniffing white powder. Oh. What? Serious world. Don't look at Discord. So, Disney of the North, Maverick, interesting statement because that is what Heather Hill's vision of Canada's Wonderland is. And she has verbally stated that several times. Yeah. She wants the park, which is why, guys, you want Heather Hill to be the new president, the general manager of Canada's Wonderland. Whoever they choose, it's still up in the air. It's between Peter and Heather, apparently. Rumors, grain of salt. But it's between those two, you want Heather Hill. No offense, Peter, but you want Heather Hill. I love Heather Hill. And yeah, you know, she, Heather, like even after working there her whole life since the park is open, she has so much passion for it and she cares so much about it. Yeah. So it would be a great, it would be an honor. Yeah. Yes. Beg for her because she has visions for the park. Whereas I don't agree with Peter's visions. Peter makes good decisions. I like his flat ride decisions. But his visions are more amusement park and Heather's visions are more theme park. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. That was a joke. So I think Heather Hill is the better vision. 100%. But regardless, I still think Cedar Fair's vision for Wonderland is a theme park too. So I think that would trump Peter anyways. Themed music, Peter. Get over yourself. If you're watching this video, which you are not, you will have way more important things to do. Themed goddamn music. I asked him this at Ace and he said, I just don't see it. The kids wouldn't like it. They like their Taylor Swift. That's literally what he said. He said that in 2019. He's like, oh, well, you know, it's not really in the, it's not really in the parks program. You know, they like Taylor Swift and we want to, we want to cater to the teens. And then did you hear King's Demin... Like you have Ima score. Cedar Fair uses Ima score, Peter. Work with them. King's Dominion's new jungle acts. If you walk through it, it's all just jungle music like little monkeys and birds chirping. It's really cool. Even King's Island's new, like that new themed area where Adventure Express looks really awesome. Yes. I don't want to listen to Taylor Swift while I'm in Med Fair. And I love Taylor Swift. Which actually, I think that's even more evidence. Not to get off, not to get derailed, but... I think that's... Stop looking. Can someone send that to me, please? Can someone send the staples? I'm gonna go save that after this. But you know, King's, King's Dominion got their rethemed area last year. King's Island is getting it this year. So I think that's even more evidence for Expo that we're going to get it sooner rather than later. Surya, your launched wing coaster could now be Intamin. I would love that. There's almost 130 of you in here now. Intamin, Intamin, Intamin, Intamin, Intamin, Intamin. We need Intamin. Oh my goodness. But yeah. Honestly, guys, to keep the topic of Intamin going, we are going to end the stream soon. We're an hour and 11 minutes. I think that's a healthy time. We're going to start the... We're going to take a little pee break. Blood pressure, you know, it's decided again. And we'll say, this was my favorite one. It's only going to get better because like... And guys, just imagine too when the park opens like all the stuff we could talk about. Flags, the construction markers. There's going to be some for 2025. They may not be there right away, but they're going to be there at some point. They're going to be there. They're going to be there. It's going to be exciting, guys. This is only getting better. I'm trying... I can't share this information, but I want to because it tells me everything. Don't share it. So there'll be no construction tours for the new coasters or anything this year and there's a reason for that. That's all I'll say. So that being said, I'm really excited. I'm excited. I'm so excited. Wonderland's future is literally the brightest in the chain. The brightest in the chain. Like, you know I've been fighting for this for years, but it is the brightest in the chain. It is... Like, it's going to be so good. Serious items. Serious items. We always forget. Serious items. So I showed you one of them and they're kind of similar, but I want to give you guys a proper size comparison. If you want to hold this one. This is a behemoth brake plate. I don't know if you can see it. It's so tiny. I was actually replaced in 2014. It's from the weight brake section one. So that's the first set of friction turn brakes when you come into the brake run. If you could hold that. Okay. I'm a model. So it's the same principle. You know the clamps, they close down. There's identical plates on the train. They grab the plates on the train and they bring it to a stop using friction. Now I do want you to note the size of this one. And I brought... I have to stand up for this, sorry. It's a view. Oh God, this is a lot heavier. Oh, it's like a solar eclipse to the camera. And this, you guys remember, is the Yukon Stryker brake plate. So let's do a size comparison. Oh my God! That's crazy. You know, like, why is the Yukon plate so much bigger than the behemoth plate? Well, this is really interesting. How long are behemoth trains? They are extremely long. How long are Yukon trains? They are extremely short. And Yukon's trains weigh a lot. So they need more surface area on the brake plates to bring the ride to a stop than behemoths do because they have the long train. So this is heavy. So they have the long train to compensate for that. So I think it's extremely cool because, you know, most people think that's pretty big and that is big. That's probably a good 10 pounds. Are you talking about me or the brake plate, Ray? No, no, that's me. This is you. But, here, let's swap. Oh, so you passed the heavier thing to the... So, yeah, though, you can see the real size comparison. And it's just, you know, dive coaster... Dive coasters are so gargantuan. The track, the trains, the wheels, even down to the brake plates. And I feel like it's not appreciated enough. That probably smells like rust and brass. But, yeah, just hold that up. I think that's pretty... That's pretty cool. And by the way, behemoths plates, this one is the exact same that Leviathan would use. Are you concierge or more wide? You start showing parts and we lose 30 viewers. I'm sorry! No, we stopped talking about intimate. And they're both made of brass. Solid brass. This, in today's market, is about $40 per plate. That's about $120 per plate. I'll take it! You know, when they say trains are about a million dollars per train and you really think, why is just steel? But, you know, one behemoth train has almost 200 of these plates. And that alone is... I don't know, if somebody could do the math, like 40 bucks times 200. You know, what is that? That's like $8,000. That's a good thumbnail! What am I doing?! But, um, yeah, you can see how parts just add up. Add up, add up, add up. And I want to show you this. You see how it's wider there? That's called a wear pattern. So, it gets more worn out here. You see how it starts to take 3 hours? That's because... Hold on, I think it shows better on this side. Let me do it for you. You can see how much more frictional force there is here versus here. That's the standard thickness. And that's the thickness when it needs to be replaced. So, that's almost double. And that's because that is the end piece. So, the train has already slowed down when it's reached that point. Could one of the moderators post the link to the Discord server? Join us in Discord, as it is a place for us nerds to hang out and talk about Canada's Wonderland. And share really cool photos. Well, that's VCT. You need special access to get into VCT. So, you need to join Voice Chat to get access to the VCT channel. That is the most active chat in there. Give me that short one. Thanks, Jacob. But, yeah, next week... So, I actually wanted to bring a piece of Mindbuster running rail. But when I took it out of my box, it was very rusty. So, I have to clean that down with WD-40. Do you have to clean it? I feel like rust makes it cooler. Am I the only one that thinks that? That's like a thing, aged wine. Well, then I'm going to bring us gloves to handle it, because it is very rusty. I can bring gloves if you want. So, that is what I'll bring for you next week. Awesome. Your parts always amaze me. And you have more? More? Oh, my goodness. I have a 100-liter tote that you get from Home Depot just full of stuff that I got from... These are all from Ace events and stuff that you just answer the trivia questions and you win them or you do like scavenger hunts or something. We need a winter chill-out event. Yes, we do. The park was looking at running a winter chill-out event. But it does appear that Wonderland is really protective of their maintenance bay area. They are, yeah. Which is kind of odd, but... It is very odd, because every other park does a tour of it. Yeah, like, they openly say, yeah, come on in, check it out. Like, what's Wonderland hiding in there? Um... So... I guess we'll end the live. We're not going to answer any questions in here, because we're going to do a whole hangout session. So all 107 of you, I better see you in our... We're going to end this stream... And we're going to take a 10-minute break. We'll say by 9.30. So 9.30pm we'll start a hangout session live stream. And then we'll literally just be interacting with all the comments, chatting, answering any questions you guys have about Intamin, Expo, blah, blah, blah, to the best of our ability. We are held to a new standard now. We have to keep our mouths... I don't know why I did that. But yeah. Yeah, so... 9.30pm, maybe even 9.25. Yeah, well... No, it's 9.20 already. So 9.30pm, stay tuned. Okay, thanks so much guys. Thank you guys. Each one keeps getting better and better. 9 hours. It even shows up the viewership. Thank you guys, thank you so much. Okay, so... What do I do? Oh, I end this stream. I'm the one that has to end it. Bye guys.