 There is a fear in a sense of shame and lack of trust in child and adolescent mental health services. A damning report yesterday found serious failings in the CAM services in South Kerry where 227 children were exposed to risky treatment and 46 were harmed significantly after being prescribed inappropriate medication by a junior doctor. It's prompted an audit of all CAM services right across the country. Children's ombudsman Niall Muldoon says the services need proper investment. 72 of them in the country, there should be over a hundred. Obviously we're really on the South and the North. We're also under-invested in mental health for children. The real thing here that strikes me is the lack of governance and support for the service of the individual who work for health records. There's no case management, there's no data protection, there's no share coming on dialies. So it's really a thing that is free for all of the other individuals and ignoring the rules. Meanwhile, a Donnie Gall Daffyry is called for a comprehensive mental health strategy for young people. Speaking during statements in the Dall on youth mental health, Daffyry Pierce Doherty says the evidence is clear that much more needs to be done to support young people. He has warned that calls for additional help cannot continue to fall on deaf ears. I could talk to you about constituents of mine and we see the spike in numbers in the last year and years. We're one in five young people who are admitted to mental health institutions are suffering from eating disorders. But the reality is the beds aren't there. When you look at the three public beds in the state, how many years, how many reports, how many times are we going to have headlines in papers, how many times are young people going to reach out asking us to do more and yet only that to be fallen on deaf ears. A bill to make stalking a standalone criminal offence will move one step closer to becoming law today. The Finafall proposal will move to committee stage later before going through the Dall and may be enacted within weeks. A person convicted of stalking could face a maximum prison sentence of 10 years. Senator Lisa Chambers who has introduced the bill outlines what the new law would cover. And what it does is it defines what that is. So it's repeated unwanted behavior often characterized by fixation or obsessive behavior on the part of the perpetrator that causes harm or distress. And then it lists out a number of things. Take for example, harming somebody's pet would be included in that, attacking their home, their workplace, family. So there's lots of ways somebody can get to you without making direct contact with you. And the possibility of school profiling being included in any hybrid model for the 2022 leaving cert has been described as unfair. It would mean a school's previous exam performance would be taken into account when assessing calculated grades. There have been renewed calls for the Education Minister to clarify what is happening with this year's exams. Whether now most areas will be dry and bright today with good sunny spells, just isolated showers, temperatures 8 to 10 degrees. Back with more 10 o'clock. Until then, good morning. Fascinated again with this case. A very good morning to you. Five minutes past nine on this Thursday, the 27th of January. You're very welcome along to another edition of the 9 till noon show. The lines are open for you right now for you to get involved, to have your say on the issues we've lined up for you or to raise your own. Caroline, taking your calls this morning, of course, an 07-4-9-1-25000. 07-4-9-1-25000. If you want to text or WhatsApp the show, you know it's 08-6-60-25000. And your comments via email to comments at highlandradio.com, and you can watch us go to our website right now, highlandradio.com. You'll see the link there, and you can watch in your browser and converse with us there, too, if you wish. Right, a lot of newspapers out this morning, of course. It being a Thursday, and we'll start with the Derry People Donegal News, and we read that scheduled hospital services, including surgery, endoscopy, and outpatient appointments are returning to normal levels at Letter Kenne University Hospital. As the rate of community transmission of COVID-19 continues to decline from its mid-January peak, more healthcare workers have been returning to work from absences associated with the coronavirus. Four weeks ago, over 300 staff were absent in Letter Kenne. Yesterday, that figure had dropped to below 70, while there were 15 COVID-19 patients, in fact, infectious cases, in LUH, one of whom was being treated in ICU, so down to 15, if it can drop only a few short weeks ago. It was up over 70, but still people will be hearing that and going, why can't we visit what's going on there? And I think a further decision on a national level is being made either at the end of this week or next week, but people are very keen to have better access to hospitals. It's not unique to Letter Kenne University Hospital, of course. The Treconal Tribune this morning, as Ireland's 2,000 practice nurses react with anger and dismay at being excluded from the 1,000-year-old COVID bonus payment. Deputy Joe McHugh has queried the Minister for Finance with regard to widening the parameters to include the group and others who have worked on the frontline since early 2020 and right through the pandemic. I'm sure he was told that a panel is being formed to look at it. But anyway, general practice nurses are employed by the GPs. They say that salaries vary across the service, and while much of the work is HSC-related, they are not on the staff payroll. Therefore, they say they do not enjoy the same benefits of pension, sick pay, or maternity pay as their colleagues in the HSC. On to the Donegal Democrat this morning, reflecting on that court case surrounding that incredible night in Glenties in 2020, a Donegal-based detective guard has told how he feared he would never see his family again as he confronted an out-of-control gunman. Detective Garda Ender Jennings told Letter Kenne Circuit Court how he and colleagues came under fire from Stephen Dowling on Mill Road Glenties on February 22, 2020. Dowling carrying a .256 Remington caliber T3X bolt-action rifle had fire shots through the windows of a passing car on the town's main street, shot four bullets through windows of two houses at Church Road and caused damage to the wall of another house on Church Street, which he also shot at. The Derry News this morning, they have a front page dedicated to the anniversary of Bloody Sunday. Of course, it's the 50th anniversary and they've got extensive coverage inside, including a 32-page supplement as well as other coverage of that anniversary. The Irish Independent this morning tells us that wealthy households will not be able to give back their 100-year electricity credit after the Energy Regulator turned down proposals for an opt-out scheme. I wonder how many people would actually opt out of that wealth. You're not often, it's the most wealthy and we'll hear about that in a moment. It's the most wealthy sometimes that can be the most precious about money. Take for example, that person within the HSC, an extra 81,000, he's now claiming, does he really need it? He's earning close on three anyway, but no, he wants that 81, but we'll get to that in a moment. So I'm not sure how many very, very wealthy people would give it back. I don't want to do them a disservice either, but I don't know. I wonder how many give back the child benefit. You're not obliged to take that either. The cabinet was told public expenditure minister Michael McGrath, whose department is sanctioning 215 million to fund the credit scheme, had sought an opt-out for householders who did not wish to receive the payment. However, ministers were told the commission for regulation of utilities advised this was not feasible given the current systems that are required to credit the payments to domestic electricity cancer via bills. The CRU said in a statement that developing an opt-out function for wealthy households who are not in need of the grant or those who do not wish to receive it would delay the project. But I suppose it's in everyone's gift if they wish to donate the money to those that less well off. Again, how many might? I don't know. Right, the Irish Times tells us that a decision to run a hybrid leaving start this year could require the use of controversial school profiling to ensure there is consistencies in teachers' estimated marks the government has been told. This was first flagged in 2020 and the complication is that, you know, it judges schools on past performance and it would judge peoples within them. So say, for instance, a school did have a record at a certain level but you had maybe two or three students who were far above that. They would be lowered down to the history of the school in the past. A lot of people would see that unfair. I wonder though, they still would have the opportunity to sit the leaving start, wouldn't they? But what do you think of this proposal? We can't have everything and tick all boxes. It's going to be complicated and some people are going to be unhappy about it. What about using school profiling? Well, Taoiseach, Michele Martin and other party leaders were informed by senior officials that an accredited grades model based on teachers' estimates may need to draw on schools' historical junior cert results. This is due to the absence of junior cert exam data for about 25% of this year's leaving cert candidates who never sat the exam in 2020 when it was cancelled due to COVID-19 concerns. This data is regarded as crucial in the standardization process which aims to ensure teachers' estimates grades in different schools are equitably awarded. The government had planned to use schools' historical performance, as I mentioned in 2020 when leaving cert exams were replaced by a system based on teachers' estimates. However, it dropped the pan following opposition claims it could penalize students attending schools in disadvantaged areas. Now, I can understand that, but as I say, there has to be a solution one way or other. The Irish Daily Mail covers, as to all papers, the shocking story of dozens of families that are now set to sue the HSC after a junior doctor vastly over-prescribed anti-psychotic drugs to vulnerable teenagers. Now, the families are also looking for an apology following a damning report which found that carry teenagers suffering from depression and other mental illnesses were given heavy doses of drugs by the junior doctor. The T-Shot called the report shocking and said a full audit will take place in all child and adolescent mental health services. But one father who said his son's life has been destroyed after he was wrongly given anti-psychotic drugs told the Irish Daily Mail that the report didn't go far enough and that the treatment was catastrophic and there are some families that received letters from the HSC saying that, you know, your child wasn't damaged due to the care given to them. But that was based off the fact that there was no medical records available for that child that had been lost. So I think that's quite a favourable conclusion for the HSC. That is the story that is shocking and we're going to be talking about that hopefully a little later on in the programme. The Irish Farmers Journal, they have an exclusive on the front of their paper. It focuses on factories that paid the best and worst prices. Prices paid for upgrading steers and heifers varied by up to 100 euro per head. Over 200 euro per head, price cap for young bulls, ABP most active for prime steers, Dawn Meats focuses on planar stock, K-Pak, top for young bulls and heifers. Independence lead the way on cows. Pretty detailed, isn't it? That much more inside that paper today. Andrew Windsor has formally responded to Virginia Gluffery's lawsuit, denying he raped and sexually abused her, launching a fierce attack on his accuser. This is in the start today. In a stunning reply filed in New York at one point, he argues she was, or she may have been responsible for her own abuse at the hands of Epstein and questioned if she ever did suffer his lawyer state assuming without admitting that Gluffery has suffered any injury or damage, Gluffery and or others who are not Prince Andrew contributed in whole or in part the alleged damage. Shocking stuff, what a defence. And this is why people don't bring cases because again, she's been put in trial again and put on trial and a trial hasn't even taken place. All right, if you've mouth full of cornflakes or tea or coffee swallow it now. This is in the Irish Daily Some because the Department of Health confirmed yesterday that Secretary General Robert Watt is being paid his full 294 euro salary but the massive paycheck has been described as a slap in the face to struggling families and businesses. This confirmation comes after questions were raised about whether the senior civil servant was still waiving a 81,000 pay increase he got when appointed to the role in April 2021. Watt said at the time he'd waived the raise. So he says he would defer it. So the language here is quite important and the paper is describing it as waiving it but my understanding is he actually deferred it. So if he deferred it, that means he could claim it back since his appointment. So I think that's a very important clarification because waving would suggest he's never to receive it. If he's deferred it, that means he's still entitled to it. He just is not taking it at this time. So if you owed me 10 euro and we deferred you paying me that 10 euro, that means I would expect that 10 euro at some time to the future. But if I said to you that I'm waiving the 10 euro, that would be the debt cancelled, wouldn't it? So I think they have to be very important or very clear with the language here. But the health department statement yesterday stated the Secretary General has confirmed that he's in receipt of the full salary for his role. Last April Watt was appointed to the top civil service post at the Department of Health on a salary of 292,000 euro. But again, by any metric is, and this is not a commentary on the people that work in it on the ground so to speak, but by any metric is the HSE performing well to the point where someone can receive 300,000 euro for working with it. I mean, what are his KPOs or is that what they call them, the key performance or KPIs, the key performance indicators? I don't know. It doesn't make much sense to me, and that's not Sarah Grape's either. She's being run fantastic, all well and good. Irish Daily Mirror, two men arrested over post office body. Two men suspected of carrying a dead man into a post office to claim his pension were arrested last night. They were being quizzed on suspicion of deception, a criminal offence which can result in a five-year sentence. Guardi believed the pair brought Padderdoll 66 to Hosey's post office in Carlo on Friday. Staff quickly realised he'd passed away and Guardi then have confirmed a arrest. Oh wait, 60, 25,000 now. Remember yesterday we were chatting to Pierce about the state of the footpath in Balabafé in a particular area and also then we went on to speak to Martin and Martin has sent through pictures of the footpath and it is in a very, very sorry state. It has to be said that elements of the concrete would actually even appear to be crumbling in inverted commas and it really is awful. It's very uneven. It's very rough. I can't believe it's been allowed to remain in that condition especially considering it's outside businesses and Martin's mom fell over in October and when he spoke to us yesterday she was in physio. He sent through a picture of her, a lovely lady but she has got both of her wrists in casts and she's got two big black eyes and a crack nose. That was last October and still it hasn't been improved as far as we can determine and Pierce's wife fell on it only yesterday and since that we've had numerous messages into the station saying other people. It seems to be primarily elderly people have tripped and fallen in that area. It's just in front of the shops there to the left from the letter Kenny's side of McElhinney's the footpath in an awful state. Have you had experience there? 08 660 25000 your whatsapps and texts are called 07 491 25000. In this week's Irish Farmers' Journal our factory price leagues exclusively reveal which factories paid the best prices for your cattle. For more is Paul Mooney. Do you suffer from high cholesterol? Men of all symptoms. Digestive issues, anxiety, aches and pains, or a lack of energy? 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Now yesterday we had contact from a caller who asked why the play park close to Letter Kenny University Hospital was closed. And we got on to the council's meeting and asked why the play park was closed. And they asked why the play park was closed. And we got on to the council to get an answer for you. And they tell us that the play park area is currently closed with refurbishment works to commence next week. So we appreciate the council giving us clarity on that. So hopefully reopen sooner rather than later bigger and better than ever. Right, Josephine joins us now from Newtown Cunningham. Good morning Josephine. Good morning Greg. How are you keeping? Not good. How are you doing? Tell us what's happening at your home. On what day was it? I discovered there's water in our garden last weekend, right? I don't know where it came from. We contact the council and they came out checked and said they couldn't find a lake. That was Monday. We had to bring them contact them again. They came out yesterday. And there's Victor's water coming in from somewhere. So they checked that as I grew out yesterday they dug up and they couldn't find where this water is coming from. And said they put a meter on it and come back today. So far I haven't seen them. Now how extensive is the water I think we can presume? How deep is it lying around your property? It's got worse obviously since you first noticed it. In the front garden there's wall and down at the bottom it must be about maybe six inches. It's flowing out our front gate and I couldn't go out and choose on it now because my feet would be soaked. So to get out of your own house you need wellies? I would. It's a big amount down past other houses and it's also flowing back into our backyard. Have you obviously the sooner this is resolved the better are you concerned that it might further damage your property? I don't think it's fantastic for your garden but it's not getting into the house. Do you feel that it can't happen? I don't know the layout. That's not likely to happen. No. They initially came out and dig their sins. They've put a meter on it and they're due out at some point today you're hoping? Well they did that yesterday the dog and they couldn't fight. Well there are plenty of water running and they didn't seem to know where it was coming from and I think it's coming. You see there's a pathway outside our fence and it has been well it has been tired over a couple of times but that's the council has that done and I think it's coming from underneath there somewhere but they didn't dig that up so I don't know. Fingers crossed they get to the bottom of it but you want to make sure they come out today because the situation is only getting worse. An awful waste of water and I know you're inconvenienced but it's an awful waste of water isn't it? It doesn't do to you. Stay in touch with us we'll put in an enquiry and see what the story is and hopefully they get out today and get to the bottom of that for many reasons. Thanks for sharing it with us Josephine and have a lovely day. Take care. That's Josephine there in Newtown Cunningham I call her and wants to know where is the best place to get a decent pair of nail scissors. She's got four pairs of nail scissors and none of them would cut butter such a basic item and they cannot be cut also cannot find anywhere that sales nail files. Now we try and help listeners with all sorts of problems some less serious than others but this person wants to look after the nails and can't get their hands on a decent quality pair of nail scissors and also nail files. Someone out there knows the answer. Come on get in touch with us. Concrete slabs should not be used on footpaths in towns. What's happening is they're laid on a bit of sand along comes a lorry or unloads the goods drives up on it next they're up and down everywhere all town footpaths need at least five inches of concrete my town will fill is the same problem. You know I think you might be spot on there because it looks like these slabs have been displaced but to say also the curbs appear to be crumbling although that probably is years of cars bouncing against them but still there's a responsibility I would say to public health and safety that needs to be addressed there at some point. Caller says she also fell on that pavement said she had a sore knee for a few days. Another caller says she fell around 2012 2012 that's nine years ago in the same spot when it was also when the pavement was in the same disrepair she's had to have surgery on her knee as the cartilage was damaged also badly cut face and found it hard to breathe at the time after it she says she didn't fall in the council because the general feeling was that they would do nothing about it ten years on and the pavement is in the same state of repair another person says they also tripped at the same spot six months pregnant well very lucky to catch yourself before going down and as well as people texting the program I've had a lot of messages too on Facebook people that would text me privately there saying they have fallen so we have I would say conservatively speaking now 10 or 12 people that have fallen at that spot and there's been a mixture of broken wrists two broken wrists with Martin's mom one broken wrist with Pierce's wife we had a pregnant lady who felt lucky that she managed to break and fall another had smashed her knee damaged her knee sorry and is having to get treatment for it that was 12 years ago Greg I know we talk a lot about speed in this county but can anyone explain the idea of these speed vans sitting 100 yards inside the 100 km zone how is this saving lives it would appear it's more about collecting money surely if these vans are to make a real difference then they should be situated in rolled black spots or on roads that are known for speeding just for these vans that caught someone doing 101 in 100 zone I bet they're pretty high I think there's a grace you know I know there used to be someone that operated one of these speed vans that listened to the program and maybe they still do they might tell us that being said maybe it's irresponsible to put that out but I don't think people are being done for one or two kilometers per hour over the limit okay but maybe it would be it would be maybe it would be irresponsible if I were to suggest otherwise okay but anyway also they're located where there's been a very serious crash or a fatal RTC that's how they're chosen now we could argue the toss on that because I know there are people know where some are that they weren't but that's the criteria that's laid down so we'll see I don't know if it's the exact same area but there's a terrible hole on that footpath between cost cutters and the hairdressers I fell into it while pushing my newborn baby that newborn is almost seven years old and that hole is still there okay right teenagers and porn we were talking about towards the end of the program yesterday how else can teenagers be taught sex education because the way they teach it in schools is not up to par but you see the teaching it in schools is controversial because you know there's a big movement that doesn't want young people to be taught certain things in school the realities of and stuff that might counteract pornography there's quite a large resistance to that right now I can understand where those people might be coming from you know our parents then stepping in and having that conversation I don't know we're going to have to talk about it though one way or other and in a way that most people agree with but this caller says this is going to cause bigger health issues down the line as young teenagers have no idea how STDs work STD tests work what sort of precautions they should be taking for their sexual orientation and girls need to know more about the advantages and procedure of SMIR test yeah indeed right okay we are joined well I'll tell you we'll join on the program now by Paul actually hi Paul hi how are you I'm good now you're speaking about an experience your wife had yeah yeah she was driving into Ruffau Monday of this week and I think she kind of just left convia and she was heading in the road and there was a hay lorry driving in front of her and that lorry knocked a big branch off the tree and that tree hit the car and it caused over 2000 euros worth of damage on the car okay this is a complex one isn't it because yeah is it that the tree should be trimmed back is it the lorry hitting the tree at the end of the day you were at two and a half ground who do you believe is responsible well honestly I mean we really don't know I mean I think it's probably in the council remit to ensure the trees are cut back enough that the lorries can pass but we do have a picture of the lorry and we took it to the guards and they believed that they believed that the hay was stacked too high and that was the cause of it and is there then I mean is that an opinion do you think Paul I know you're sort of talking about this to try and get other people's input did you get the impression from that conversation that the hay being stacked too high was an opinion or is there an actual legal height limit I wonder I think there is a limit I'm not an expert but I think there is a limit that I think they would have seen the lorry in reality and probably measured it to see if it to confirm that but I think at this point off a picture I think it's just an opinion and of course the hay is not going to still be on the back of that lorry so it's whether or not this picture would be evidence and off yeah for sure the insurance company said like for us we passed it on to the guards and if they get any information that they would take the case or if they could get any CCP footage or anything like that but yeah you wouldn't know if they'd ever get that and you've also a decision to make that would be comprehensive but you know if you claim obviously that's going to have an impact on your that's going to have an impact on your premiums going forward that is claimable on your insurance is it Paul no it is yeah the insurance company said it was very good and with an assessment done hopefully they're going to get the car sorted but you're going to pay that two and a half ground back though one way or other it's going to harm your ability to shop because they'll ask you if you made any claims in the last five years you will have to state that you did so you know it's going to cost you and your wife one way or other if no one else can be found to be responsible I would say yeah we asked them like what the impact was to no claims and it's going to have a subsequent impact on the insurance for the next four years with a reduction in the no claims percentage yeah again though that kind of they can name their price next year because you can't go anywhere really I'm not saying that unscrupulous I'm not saying it okay just to be clear but you know they know they've got you they've got you for four years right so what about the shock to your your wife though because it sounds like it was a right smack it was definitely coming down from a distance and she was traveling you know towards it it must have been a right oh gunk for her wasn't yeah it was I mean she was quite taken back and at first it was kind of just shock we were just happy that everyone was alright at first but then you kind of get over that and it's like hang on we've got a we've got a full bill here and it's going to be painful but I mean thankfully she's okay there's no lasting injuries but yeah it was an actual shock because it kind of hit the roof of the car first so there's a dent in the roof of the car and then came down and just bounced off the bonnet so the bonnet and that's got to be replaced on the car yeah our caller says that happened to me a few years ago had to drive after the lorry with no windscreen to get the lorry stopped soon after though the trees were trimmed now maybe that caller might text us back when they stopped the lorry what happened did they say you know did they take responsibility that would be an important part of this but we'll put it out there we've already had one bite we'll see what else we'll see whatever else comes across our desk but this is time sensitive because you have to make a decision sooner rather than later is the car drivable at the moment yeah it is it is drivable but we hope to get it in fairly soon to get it to get the repairs done on it it's literally only like the cars only not that it makes too much difference but the cars only like five months old oh it makes a lot of difference I think you know you're still probably washing it I'm tugging in at night listen Paul leave it with us we'll see what other people have to say maybe that person who sounds like a very similar situation let's see what happened when they might text us back and tell us what happened once they got the lorry to stop what was that conversation like and we'll see if anyone else has any other suggestions Paul again pass on our best wishes to your wife and thank you very much for raising that with us I appreciate it can you help six sixty twenty five thousand WhatsApp or text the shocker that alone a caller wants to know if any listeners might know where to get Garten Clay it has healing properties as some 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Hi Ruth Hi Greg good morning it's good to have you with us right now a report was conducted a study was conducted last year and published towards the end of last year but obviously with everything that's been going on we're going to get around to talk about it now tell us about the study what was it looking at Greg we were we wanted to listen to some of the ethnic minorities in Bunkrana to hear their experience of coming to the community many many folks have joined our community in the last 10 years so they're quite new in Bunkrana and we wanted to find out what's it like from different ethnicities and and their experiences of coming to the town. Alright so how many people were involved in the study so we did an online survey with just over 130 people took part and then we also did 10 interviews with people different ages different ethnicities different backgrounds to hear their experience and we had also a great focus group with some young people in Bunkrana throughout this chat and to hear their views as well and those that took part living in and around Bunkrana or it was okay so what from your perspective with the key findings well one of the wonderful things is the ethnic minorities and the locals of course describe Bunkrana as friendly welcoming and safe and I think that's that's fantastic news I mean it's good news it's not all negative a lot of ethnic minorities are feeling so grateful to have found a home in our beautiful town and so we're really grateful for that I suppose there is the reality and the darker side is that the reality is people from especially from black Asian or traveler backgrounds have experienced racial abuse and have experienced discrimination or exclusion in some way shape or form and that is something that we have really concerned about and did they express in what forms that can take the most common it seems is is racial abuse sometimes it can be a so called joke or comments or passive racism I'm not trying to play it down is it sort of you know passive racism rather than you know words being shouted in the streets sort of a thing is that not passive racism I'm not sure the correct term I'm trying to use but you know where the person may not fully realize that what they're saying is making a person feel uncomfortable we heard a bit of both what you're describing there would be called microaggressions those little things that people do and say that make somebody feel unwelcome or excluded and that's quite that is probably the most common form of racism in a small town like ours but we do also have the verbal abuse the N word the really unpleasant and nasty and we did have a small number of people who've experienced actual physical attacks or attacks on their property that are racially motivated that are racially motivated but as you mentioned and you started off with a positivity a positive message here I think it sounds to me maybe that the majority of this could be avoided with more education and a better understanding absolutely Greg actually you've hit the nail on the head and it was coming from our interviewees as well they were saying please just give us an opportunity to talk more to talk about this to help educate people if somebody's walking down the street in a hijab it might look different to a normal Irish Catholic but that doesn't mean we need to be able to understand why somebody is wearing a hijab and understand that these are important and welcome members of our community. Yeah I think people have been conditioned to sort of maybe have an instant reaction to that between one thing and another and really that just needs to be replaced with something of an understanding absolutely I mean I think there's two things here one is that the really negative stuff is a very small minority so those of us who do not want to see that sort of behaviour in our town in our communities we need to be vocal and also we need to listen to the voices of our minority communities who have so much to contribute and they're really excited to contribute I've noticed as a volunteer in a community centre that if you look proportionately the number of volunteers who are not you know originally locals it's a much higher number they are giving back they are contributing to our community and a much higher proportion than locals so We also need that to be reflected though at a much higher level do you know and we've talked about you know maybe representation in the civil service for example which seems to be actually where the power is at or in the council chamber or the seats of power you know and I think I just think sometimes and particularly in this program I would love to hear more people and you can't really judge whether someone has been here the whole life or whether they're new to being here don't get me wrong but I would love to hear people feel that they can text this program for example or call this program and say this is my experience this is how I feel you know platforms like this and the local papers I think we could definitely get a better understanding and sort of iron out a lot of this stuff but also I think you know it's lovely that people are volunteering and that's very important really only we'll only really see people feel that they're truly part of everything if they're represented at all levels of society if that's the right way of putting it absolutely, Greg you really again you might have read the report but it's fantastic well I didn't but I've done a lot of this stuff but go on ahead Ruth yeah the key themes that were coming up themes of communication is essential often ethnic minorities are not hearing what's going on and they're not able to participate in what's going on because they're not getting the message and so you know good ways of looking at how does radio how does local newspapers how do we become more inclusive in the voices we're listening to or is it the same old same old and that is two-way traffic though because we have seen through the pandemic and other situations it could be any area of health or what have you is that you know a lot of people their main source of information might be a news channel from where from whence they originally came from or that might be where they're getting information so they're not accessing you know like I see for instance the HSE Twitter feed throughout the pandemic right why was the public health message not published in different languages for example you know I couldn't understand why that's not happening at the highest level of government you know so that you're reaching people that are getting information elsewhere or not getting any information at all so that conversation benefits society you know on more ways than we're simply talking about at the moment. Yeah and I think that that's where you touch on the places of power and I think that's something we noticed in our reports you know we need to see representation across the board at all levels and we need the power structures of this country to understand that our country's changed and we are no longer Irish Catholic across the board we need to learn that there are differences. It's 12% of the population that is not insignificant. Yeah yeah and not to see this as a threat and I think that's something we need to be seeing this as a great strength of our country that we are a diverse a beautiful amazing country we can build on that richness if we tackle the challenges and the problems and the barriers that people feel But without true integration people become threatened because what happens is people tend to live in the same area or mix in the same circles and obviously you would see integration in the examples that you're talking about but I'm on about more broadly and when that is the case then you know it allows people to either stir up fear or for people to actually fear the fear or feel the fear Yes and I think we need many more opportunities to meet and build relationship across the board and we need more more opportunities to encourage ethnic minorities to participate at the highest levels of power so that we can have a richness we've seen what happens when power is just restricted to a few people and the same people all the time But let's just say can you imagine if someone from you know a minority background was in the council an issue in press releases or raising motions that affected those communities how the conversation would change it would be so much out of the open and public and it would give us such an opportunity to you know have that conversation in a different way Yeah absolutely So I think it would change the landscape greatly if that were to happen Yeah I mean it's we talk about a lot of things to do with racism and discrimination it is about power it's about somebody deciding that they have the right to make the decisions and that these people do not and that is so concerning and that's where we need to see a change a systemic change if you like and I'll be afraid of that but actually see that as a real enrichment in fact one of the things I loved is that 62% of our service participants said that ethnic diversity enriches our town and we need to to hold on to those sort of findings and know that that is the truth it really does enrich us And what do you think the finding well it's just it can't ask you to presume this but would it be interesting or perhaps you did you know ask the people of Bonkranagh generally speaking maybe those that aren't you know, new Irish or of an ethnic background what their views are Yeah part of our survey did that the online survey quite a significant proportion almost 70% of our online survey were white Irish who've lived here all their life I think you may have touched on some of that but what were the findings there Again the vast majority were very very warm and welcoming although a large number were saying we want to be integrated but we don't know how and this is where you come back to education and people saying oh I don't know how to make friends with people from different backgrounds or I don't know what to do I think I'm going to say the wrong thing Well that's it you know there's an awful particularly in this day and age there's an awful lot of people might be afraid they might put the foot in it Yeah and what we found from our interviewees they're saying just ask us just ask me why I wear this essentially just ask me why I'm a Muslim or what as Muslims we do ask me as a black person you know what faith I have or things like this it's okay to ask Or have a conversation about what's your birth country or where is your family from because you might be surprised by the answer you know I mean just because someone is black as you've described they can be from so many so many different places and that would be an interesting conversation daughter it is indeed but also to we need to tackle this idea that you're not Irish if you're black or you're not Irish if you're Asian because people who've been born here who have maybe from mixed race or who born here who are black Irish and they have they encounter this problem where are you from I'm from here second generation that's why I was setting up that's why I said where were you born or where's your heritage just as I say because that's how you learn okay it's interesting there's no point just sitting around the place gathering dust and everyone patting themselves on the back and saying we did this study I know that's not your intention so what do you want where should this go from here do you think we need to get to a point where we're not having too white Irish people talking about this for example absolutely because that's part of I'm not part of the problem I hope you're not part of the problem but we're not and we try and do it as much as we can we need to be talking to people or not about them actually the point of this survey was listening so listening to empower change listening to the ethnic minorities in our town and we've made from there we've made recommendations so our plan as a community centre and in the local area is to use this these recommendations to inform what we do so for example I think a positive example the community guards in Bunkrana came to us and said we'd really like to meet some members of the ethnic minority communities because we're concerned that there might be barriers to law enforcement in this country if they've come from a place where it's more of a war zone we feel that they have a relationship with the GARD and I believe that should have been done long before now whereby if they are the victim of racism or a racistly motivated attack that they feel that it can be reported and impacted upon absolutely because as we know racism is one of the most under reported crimes in this country and so we need to be able to make those spaces so what we did was run an intercultural coffee morning and the guards came along and different members of the ethnic minority communities in Bunkrana came along and that was a fantastic really simple thing but it got people to chat to one another over a cup of coffee and find out more about each other and it's about breaking down those barriers that might be there that are there as we know so I think those sort of things moving forward everything we do now in the community centre we're asking how can our research inform making sure that this event is not just for White Irish, it's actually for everybody in our community Alright Ruth, thank you very much for your time this morning I appreciate it, an interesting conversation and an interesting study in fact as well it's been great having you on the programme Thank you so much Greg, I really appreciate being it Take care of yourself that's Ruth Garvey-Williams volunteer at the exchange community centre Bunkrana who conducted that study which was overall positive but obviously highlighted perhaps some predictable issues that are very easily addressed if the will is there The 9 till noon show is brought to you by Letter Kenny Credit Union Download our new app today to apply and draw down your loan wherever you are What's that? 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I'm good, thank you Obviously we are impacted by what's happening around the world supplies and all that kind of stuff and we can talk maybe a little bit about what impact the Russian situation might have on it A lot of the cost here is tax as well, what's the rough break down there? Yeah Greg, so 60% of what you pay at the pumps is tax, so if the prices at the minute are 170.3 per litre for petrol as you said and 160.5 per litre for diesel the price before taxes are added would be about 75 cent so one third of the price that you pay at the pump is tax that's a breakdown of excise which includes carbon if you look at the budget last year 7.50 it increased to 7.50 in the budget of last year so that's quite a lot and that will continue to increase until 2029 then you also have that which is about 20% as well so that's quite a significant chunk of money to be paying at the pump so I suppose it is in the government's remit to reduce these taxes and to help consumers out because at the minute it's quite concerning and it is quite worrying for people living in rural areas or lower income families who are suffering the most because as we can see in the news recently the cost of living in Ireland has increased toward the 16th most expensive country in the world where 24% less expensive than New York which is it might seem like a lot but that is a lot and you know it's just worrying I live in Tiber area, I live in a rural area I don't have the public transport option so we do rely on our cars so something needs to be done and of course too there's a say for instance the alternative there is a shortage of electric and hybrid cars out there and also you know you have to refuel them too and that's another cost that's increasing absolutely and you know we do know that there were grants in place for hybrid electric vehicles they were taken away just in December just gone on January 1st and now there are incentives for battery electric vehicles of up to 5,000 euro and a home charger grant of up to 600 euro as well and we do know that the government are planning or they're urging people to go towards electric vehicles they want to get about 1 million on the roads by 2030 but they have set out these targets they have been missed of having 230,000 electric vehicles on the road by 2020 now that was missed by about 200,000 vehicles we do know at the minute that there is about 47,000 electric vehicles on the road 15,000 of those were in 2021 so unless we meet these targets we're not going to get anywhere to help with climate change or global warming and because of those two things the government not least is a massive revenue maker for them the government is very unlikely to discount petrol by reducing tax on it I mean we can hope but that's not going to happen and there's nothing to suggest that we'll ever see these prices in terms of the road product itself tumble back to previous levels so is this something we are going to have to live with further foreseeable yes like we don't see fuel prices coming down anytime soon it is due to a combination of reasons why the cost is so high I did mention it was tax which you also have the cost of oil as well which I think it's about $86 today when I checked and last Friday it was going for $88 which is the highest since 2014 you do have to under alright that line is failing on us there but we definitely got the message and it's not a very favourable message for us is it that's Anna Collins spokesperson we'll be back with more in the until noon show after we take the news and obituary notes stay right where you are live on air online and on the Highland Radio app this is Highland Radio News good morning it's Donald Kavanaugh at the Highland Radio News desk the channel has been told that giving people the right to ask if they can work from home is meaningless in many rural areas of Donegal where the rollout of broadband is still a long way off and Senator Eileen Flynn said Donegal and other rural counties should be prioritised in the national broadband plan rollout but instead the counties wouldn't where almost nothing has happened so far Senator Flynn said a decade after the dead minister Pat Rabbit described broadband as the rural electrification of the 21st century most of rural Ireland including much of Donegal has been left behind there's many many people many many areas in this country that won't even see the rollout until at least the end of the year this is very disheartening for people nowadays and Tarnash announced that people have the right to ask can they work from home how can we expect people from Donegal to have the equal opportunities to be successful being able to work from home while many of them don't have that controversial school profiling may have to be used if a decision is taken to opt for a hybrid living certificate this year a decision is expected soon in relation to what form the state exams will take this year but according to the Irish Times the government has been advised that profiling may be needed to counteract grade inflation there are calls for the passport office to open seven days a week the Irish examiner reports this morning the office is set to be flooded with up to 1.7 million applications in the weeks and months ahead as families scramble to book foreign holidays there's already a backlog of 113,000 passports in the system because of disruption caused by Covid lockdowns a Donegal deputy is calling for a intensive mental health strategy for young people speaking during statements in the Dall on Youth Mental Health W. Peer Stoharty said the evidence is clear that much more needs to be done to support young people he warned the calls for additional help cannot continue to fall on deaf ears I could talk to you about constituents of mine and we see that spike in numbers in the last year and years we're one in five young people who are admitted to mental health institutions are suffering from eating disorders but the reality is the beds aren't there when you look at the three public beds in the state how many years, how many reports, how many times are we going to have headlines in papers, how many times are young people going to reach out asking us to do more and yet only that to be fallen on deaf ears the Department of Transport is warning ships of a serious safety risk next month when the Russian Navy begins military drills it's shared the coordinates of the exercise which it says will involve naval artillery and rockets the Russian ambassador to Ireland will meet with fishermen later this morning ahead of their planned protest against the drills Chief Executive of the Irish South and West Fish Producers Organisation, Patrick Murphy says as far as he's concerned the Department's warning is addressed to the wrong people we're going there first so their boats will come afterwards so if they're coming to where we're going fishing it isn't us in their way it's them coming in to create the danger so the right note is sent to the wrong people so when you're undermining people's positions and stuff I think the government are doing that a damn good job of that and so a bill which would see a person convicted of stalking facing up to ten years in prison could become law within weeks the Finovall proposal would make stalking a stand-alone criminal offence for the first time in Ireland it's been discussed by Senators today before moving through the doll Senator Lisa Chambers who introduced the bill says there is widespread support for a change in the law I'm not expecting any opposition during the second stage debate barring the Department's view it's really strong on this every other party was supportive of this and independent as well so there is wide cross-party support for this legislation and public support as well Looking at the other forecast most areas staying dry and bright today with good sunny spells just some isolated showers in places feeling pleasant with highest temperatures 8 to 10 degrees celsius breezes fresher in coastal areas tonight it'll be cool and dry under broken cloud frost and possible icy patches developing along with some Mr Fogg lowest overnight temperatures 0 to 3 degrees celsius in light variable mainly southerly breezes rather dull tomorrow with scattered outbreaks of rain and drizzle amounts will be fairly small though away from the Atlantic area with the chance of some brighter spells across the further eastern parts of the region relatively mild on Saturday highest temperatures 10 to 12 degrees celsius that's Highland Video News back with news again at 11 o'clock good morning The obituary notices for Thursday morning the 27th of January the death has occurred of William McLaughlin Davey Quill Karen Donna his remains will be leaving the Eternal Eye Chapel of Rest Mount and Top Letter Kenny today at 3 o'clock going to his late residence funeral arrangements to be confirmed later family friends and neighbours welcome the death has taken place of Mary McCloskey, Neymar Loi Ard Kearthin, Kiltoi Letter Kenny and formerly of Derry Baggy Dore Mary's remains are reposing at her home the house's private place funeral from there tomorrow morning at half past 11 going to the church of the Irish martyrs Letter Kenny for 12 noon Requiem Mass which can be viewed live on facebook.com and termed afterwards in St Columbus Church Cemetery Dremel family flowers only please donations and loo of flowers if desired to the society of St. Vincent de Paul care of any family member the death has occurred of Joe Gallin 9 Garvably Enrolled Castle Durg Joe's remains are reposing at his late home funeral from his late home on Saturday morning at quarter past 10 4 11 o'clock Requiem Mass in St Patrick's Church Ahayarn via Cairn Road and Tierna Mungan Road and termed afterwards in the adjoining churchyard the mass can be viewed via the Ahayarn parish web camp the death has taken place of John Mandy Gallagher Chrysler his remains are reposing at his late residence funeral mass in St Michael's Church Chrysler tomorrow morning at 11 o'clock followed by burial in Doe Cemetery the mass can be viewed live on mcnmedia.tv family flowers only please donations if desired to the Donegal Hospice care of any family member the funeral mass can be viewed live on mcnmedia or the Cairn Road funeral director facebook page the death has taken place of Mary Devine Ney Sweeney Cloddy County Derry formerly of Derry Connor Gortha Hork her remains are reposing at her home in Derry Connor funeral mass in Christ the King and the death has taken place of Vincent Barron Deer Park Convoy Vincent's remains are reposing at his late residence funeral from there this morning at quarter past 10 for 11 o'clock in St Union's Church which can be viewed on the parish web camp and term it afterwards in the adjoining churchyard the house is strictly private at the request of the deceased for more details including any family health guidelines for wicks and funerals please go to HighlandRadio.com with all the stories that matter across the north west it's Greg Hughes on the 90 noon show on Highland Radio okay so obviously a lot of conversation taking place as it relates to Russia's planned activity off the south west coast 240 kilometers from land and it's been confirmed that that's going to start on February 3rd which believe it or not is a week today, February 3rd is one week today can you believe it another mortgage payment and it's going to last for five days so I'm going to be speaking to hopefully a little later on fishermen who are going down to protest it I wouldn't be at it but anyway obviously they're concerned about stocks and the impact it might have on them and fair play to them this caller says though morning Greg didn't NATO conduct naval exercises in the black sea a few years back where we're all the safe the dolphin campaigners and environmentalists are back then I don't know can't remember that lady that you had on seemed very nice but she made one of the tongue in cheek remarks that only adds to racism she said Ireland is no longer a white Catholic country and I think what she means by that it's not exclusively now a white Catholic country you know and that is a broad statement to perhaps describe what many would have viewed Ireland as but it's not, it's a more diverse country it's not simply just that that's how I believe that remark was motivated and perhaps I would say you could insert the word it's not exclusively a white Catholic country but anyway this caller says we must and that we must accept it that's exactly what many Irish people fear will happen with a large number of non-nationals coming into Ireland and many won't accept that change I get where you're coming from and I understand that and some people are very very passionate I mean you could look at the churches and chapels of a weekend and maybe you know they're not exactly wedged are they either so whether people were coming into the country or not I suspect things have begun to change in this country which some people won't like but as I say you know even pre-pandemic look at attendance and what have you a lot of time people the only time they're in there is for christlings confirmations and weddings that might be controversial but recently registered a daughter for basketball have been waiting on the list for a long time children who have not been on waiting lists at all are let's straight in there seems to be a lot of internal politics involved as in children of friends of the organisers or children already involved in Gaelic this seems to be happening quite frequently in a child's inclusion should not have anything to do with the background or who they know has anyone else experienced this what an interesting question trying to enroll the child in this case in basketball but they're always put behind friends of friends or people who might be associated with whomever is running this have you seen that before is that something that's quite common get involved 08 660 25000 this caller says as Irish people it is only fair and right that we should be welcoming towards all guests into the country but it's also important that people coming here from other cultures would respect our traditional traditions way of being so that we can all prosper together what do you mean when you talk about respecting Irish traditions could you get back in contact with us and tell me what you mean by that what are our traditions that you feel that others aren't respecting it be interesting conversation on the issue of mental health the family member went to a unit locally but did not receive the right treatment observe the treatment within the unit at the time and liaised with the consultant at the time to discuss the medication he was receiving as they seem to be making him worse but the consultant said that if he refused to take the medication he would not be released a caller said that she trusted the advice of the doctors even though she didn't really want to and it resulted in side effects including extreme weight gain and the patient being in a catatonic state he became uninterested in self care such as exercise the consultants were adamant that this had nothing to do with the medication but when the caller looked into the side effects herself everything her family member was experiencing was noted as a side effect caller has been fighting constantly about this is there anyone else in this canty who has suffered this now they might be looking down at that revelation from Kerry and going right okay this all feels very familiar would this be picked up in that review of the calm services that the Taoiseach was talking about but has that been your experience of accessing those mental health services in the Northwest as it relates to the type of treatment and what impact negative or positive it had on you or your family members by the way thank you to everyone who contacted us offering garden clay to the lady who was on to us earlier on we're going to pass the information on to that person so thank you very much indeed a caller says to people still have to get the booster now that they don't have to show when going out that's your personal medical decision the general consensus is that the booster is the booster is effective in combat and the worst effects for most of Omicron and this new Omicron variant it's brother or sister that is now emerging in other countries I think Norway it's due to be the dominant strain shortly it's seen a massive peak in cases the population similar to ours 40 odd thousand cases but it hasn't resulted in an extra hospitalization or death and the Norwegians the officials obviously I'm sure there's people in Norway would disagree putting that down to the vaccine rollout right if you go to Churchill anyone with the name Freel can lift it for them but we've got that sorted but thank you very much for that my daughter after being on antidepressants at age 13 was put on antipsychotic drugs at age 15 Risparadel and or Lazapine at the same time she was on large amounts of tranquilizers and there's many children who've been on these in Donegal overmedicated children and adults for many many years many in their 20s overdoses of treatments it's about time mental health overmedicating is being looked at okay that's an interesting point they say you know this is historic this is not something that's just come about right now they say read the lorry in the tree coming down same thing happened to my daughter a few years ago she claimed against the lorry's insurance company and was successful in her claim okay stop the lorry guards this is the other caller who remember we asked for them to provide more information stop the lorry the guards came and the lorry man was worried about the height of his load but it was a company car so I'm not sure who paid so they don't know whether or not the company fixed the car or the lorry fixed the car because you know they were just the driver at that point and they stepped out of it other people saying whoever owns the tree is responsible but there's a lot I've been sent picked this happens quite a bit I've been sent pictures by people on Facebook of the exact same thing happening to them you would think it was very rare that it doesn't happen very often but that simply is not the case and looking at some of the damage to the vehicles I won't well I can say Eddie contacted me he says and he's provided pictures this happened to me about six years ago between Lyft and Ballon Drate as it was a company car I'm not sure who paid for it had to drive after the lorry for half a mile to get his attention lorry driver was worried about the height of the load before Garde came soon after though the trees were trimmed and to be honest looking at the lorry that Eddie sent in it doesn't look particularly overburdened to me I would have thought that's not far off the height of an arctic maybe it's a meter above the height of an arctic but it doesn't look overloaded but anyway his car front windscreen smashed and the roof dented in I would not like to have had to pay for those repairs but anyway listen thank you for that and keep them coming into us it's interesting how many people have shared experiences good luck if you're playing the bingo today it is jackpot day so the big money is up for grabs we'll be back after the numbers and a quick break it's time for NCBI Bingo on Highland Radio it's Thursday the 27th of January jackpot day you're playing for the 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pringle thanks for joining us thomas good morning to you i'm good right you took part in a council of europe debate on Tuesday focusing on is it supports for the lgtbi community or the challenges that community faces or what was the nature of the debate the debate was basically that there was two reports being debated from the committee on equality and non-discrimination of the council of europe one was on combating rising hate crime against lgbti people in europe right across the board and then there was one specifically on the violations of the rights of lgbti people in the southern Caucasus which basically is Georgia Armenia it was a wide-ranging debate and it covered all countries of Europe as well and it's interesting in the report on the combating rising hate crime it outlines every country in Europe has a problem and it actually appears to be part of an organized campaign rather than individuals or people expressing concerns locally so there are people is it in the background pulling the strings maybe tapping into peoples i don't know insecurities or concerns or whatever and you know people who perhaps even might feel they're actually free thinking are being manipulated by puppet masters i'm not calling these people puppets as such but you know is there that level of organization i actually think there is and i think it worryingly as well it's in the political system and in the governmental system as well right across Europe and basically it seems to be attacking the rights of transgender people and the rights of transgender people to participate in society masking then attacks on for the rights against women and children and that as well and that seems to be across the board and the UK Holland right across the i suppose you call them the established or the normal democracies in Europe and then we extend into Hungary Poland and right down into the Caucasus then where it is a lot more violent but it is a very worrying trend i think and it actually will undermine further people's rights transgender people today it will be women tomorrow and children that as well and that's what's worrying about it it is a complex problem it's a worrying problem but the complexity comes from like there are other organizations that represent you know like lgb communities that have branched out because they themselves have concerns or issues with the tea element of it yeah i'm not sure i wouldn't be an expert Greg on that but there is a lot of and this is one of the hallmarks of the opposition is that basically groups will set themselves up as a women's rights group to protect women's rights and just campaign against transgender people on that basis and other that's for definite but i would imagine that's quite possible that somebody else could set up a group as being lg group you could of course yeah of course and that's that as part of the problem and that needs to be protected against well countries like Ireland we don't have any specific legislation on hate crime and we were talking a little earlier on about it's by coincidence about minority groups you know and how the reporting of racist attacks is dealt with here but if a country does not it's not seen to legislate for these types of issues well you know i mean it would give these groups the impression that it's not being taken seriously or it's not a great concern and it adds fuel to the fire if you get where i'm coming from it's around about what you're saying i think that's true Greg and it does outfuel the fire and you know in Ireland we are in the process of putting legislation forward but that'll take a number of years even with the best will in the world with it happening as quickly as it can happen it's going to be probably a couple of years before we start reporting crime on that basis on that basis at all so that's going to be really difficult and i think that also what it does is it undermines our position in taking the stance to protect other communities through the Council of Europe and so they got there as well and that's something that we have to be very aware of as well and the Guardian have introduced a kind of a working hate crime definition that's used to be reported on but unfortunately we've seen problems with the Guardian reporting crime figures as well and they're not required actually to report crime in terms of somebody's race or ethnicity and if we don't report crime we don't report crime it's understated and therefore it doesn't get as much attention as perhaps it should and it certainly doesn't get any resources and I wouldn't see the establishment of a particular unit to deal with a particular problem because you would say well sure look we've had very few reports of it but what can you input into the Pulse system to address some of these complaints it's a big circle of going nowhere it becomes a self-sustaining cycle basically what happens then is people from the trans community because they feel that their complaints won't be investigated or it can't be because of the legislation the Guardian then say well the figures are very low but they are low because people don't report and then they don't report again and the figures get lower again and that is a problem and that's something that we need to address urgently I think in this country Yeah it is a complex issue because then there is a debate and almost to an internal debate about maybe making hormones available to teenagers and other issues as well which I think is also employed to sort of whip up it's a probably justifiable concern sorry for some people you don't have to whip it up but it's a very complex area was there a sense from this debate on Tuesday that the problem is worsening that you know maybe people with opposed to other things are now maybe if finding their attentions moving on to this issue Well that's really the concern of it and the report there is published on the council of your website and if any of your listeners want to go and have a look at it I think it's well worth the read and it highlights all the countries in Europe that there are problems and there are no one problems and it does say that it is part of an overall problem rather than being a problem of transgender people themselves they are being targeted at the moment but it's only part of a smaller and wider scale of targeting of people and undermining of rights across the board and that's the danger you know at some point then if we and pendulum transgender people's rights then who's next after that and that's what we have to be worried about I think All right listen thank you very much indeed for that that's independent Deputy Thomas Pringle there The nightly noon show with letter Kenny Credit Union multiple loan payments causing you stress why not talk to letter Kenny Credit Union today about a debt consolidation loan Well David brilliant that you weren't in work today we had some crack it was Petters last shift so we all went out for lunch thanks for 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Ladies 1620 I missed sorry I missed that so we didn't get to play that particular song but we certainly played the request speed van to the locations this caller says speed van sits in Bunkrunner main street a lot of mornings I wonder how it gets on so to speak you know does it pick up there's one in the whole town regularly the chapel there and I would say it is like shooting fish in the proverbial barrel hi Greg the teenagers mental health crisis goes a lot further than the junior doctor doctors in Ireland are not equipped to deal with mental health issues and simply throw medication at anyone who's shown signs and when you do get a referral to the service they're nowhere near up to par I hope this investigation and covers something much larger larger so we can start fresh with an effort for young people's mental health you know I think often medication is gone to because the expertise in terms of you know cancelling or help face to face is not there and what do they do they say 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so this is welcome news it's actually a step in the right direction for us and do we know fenola if people will have a choice or will they be obliged to visit the post office because I don't think they have a choice for the new job seekers possibly not for the first six months I don't think they have a choice but no they don't as far as I know they don't I mean this comes as a time too doesn't it as there's an awful lot of investment in the post office network presumably to shore it up but to try and to try and secure its future viability that's exactly right Greg we need this increased football we need our post offices and our rural communities Minister Humphries showed us yesterday that she's behind us and that we have to try and encourage more government departments to get behind us there's actually a working group set up within the government and then there's the departmental group Minister Hildegard Naughton's behind that and she's trying to source offline services from different government departments for the post office we need it with us if the post office closes we know that businesses will be affected and it's just unemployment, war unemployment but basically as Hildegard what do you call it Hildegard said yesterday that it also just is broad as well that people coming into the post office and do you think if the right changes are made and that there's an adaption there that maybe you know particularly I think with banks exit in the market next and our towns and with an emphasis on remote working so in other words not everyone centralized in the big urban hubs do you think that maybe there could actually be a period of growth for post offices if the right decisions are made now? Absolutely because as we all know people are moving to rural Ireland and they need they need to have a post office they need to benefit from the services because we actually do a lot more than what people think we do all sorts of banking now we all actually now have Bank of Ireland on board, AAP, Ulster Bank and also our own and post current account so people that are now moving out of the urban areas they need to be able to access all these services and the post office can provide we just now need to continue with the government and lobby them and say please give us more offline services because there's a lot of people don't have access to computers and stuff and they still need that one to one communication with a postmaster and it's very important that we keep open and as I say it helps other local businesses as well and I suppose too there's a messaging job to be done there too because there are people that may not have stepped foot in a post office either ever or maybe for five or ten years I mean you have to make sure that people know what's available, what business you can actually do in a post office outside of what you somewhat obliged to do and I don't mean that badly but you don't want to talk about it. Yeah, we're trying to get more advertisements and post-heirs coming in and doing door drop-offs to let people know both their meal, what we actually do in the post office and that's coming on board, we did it there before Christmas we just need to get out there all the services we provide and we provide a lot and we can do more if the government will give it to us but yes we're getting it out there what we can do and just hopefully we can continue to grow in the post office. Alright, thank you very much for your time this morning, nice to speak to you take care of yourself, that's Finola McBride there who's executive member of the Irish Post Masters Union for Donagall At your local Centra, we have great offers. Like meridian, crunchy and smooth peanut butter one kilo, half price now 4.94 each. 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Good morning Greg, how are you? I'm not too bad at all, right? We're out and about and well, we received a speeding fine, tell us about it. Well, you were talking about Donegal Town being like shouldn't fish in a barrel and for ourselves going to Dublin of course that section of the N2 between Namibale and Monaghan is a bit like shouldn't fish in a barrel as well as you know they improve the road and then reduce the speed limit from 100 kilometres per hour and if you drive at 80 kilometres per hour and that you're probably holding up traffic but you know it's the why's and the where for us of these things why did he set out to do an improvement on a major route for us a key route and then reduce the speed limit on it. How long is the stretch, Liam, sorry just for those who aren't aware, how long is the stretch between Monaghan and Namibale? And it's 80 kilometres the whole way. It's 80 kilometres the whole way they did it in two stages it was the last section in the M2 side to be brought up to national route level I mean it's still far short of where we would want it to be but it was the last section I remember 10 years ago was at a conference and I ran into the chairman of the NRA at this conference and I asked them if they were leaving that route deliberately to remind us what the road used to be like when the roads on the south were even worse than the A5, you know but so they improved it they improved the first section from Monaghan to the church at Karakrin and they reduced the speed limit but the section from Karakrin into Emibale the shorter section they hadn't improved yet which was the more dangerous section and they left the speed limit at 100 kilometres per hour until they improved it and they improved the alignment they didn't improve it very well can you see the if it were properly advertised and people were going in there with their eyes open can you see the justification of that stretch being 80 kilometres? no I can see the justification of that stretch being 80 kilometres and if the old section was left at 100 kilometres even when the new section was being improved if Lefford Manor is still 100 kilometres per hour then I don't see the justification for it being reduced to 80 kilometres per hour but you know you would think that if they're going to spend money on the road on a single digital national route they would spend the money that would allow them to operate it at 100 kilometres per hour at the specified national route speed limit now that's the sort of thing and I feel this is an issue for the Northwest it was about the same time ago I had a go at a conference at a Belfast man who was a professor in the University of Westminster saying regional development doesn't need roads and I said if you've ever been on the A5N2 you know that regional development needs roads and the funny thing about was this last Friday week in the Irish Times Professor John Fitzgerald of ESRI was writing the importance of restoring air connectivity into Dublin airport to get all the flights back that we used to have there and the importance of that for our industrial development well we have the same issue here in the region we need that connectivity and we need to demand that connectivity the A5N2 has been talked about for 20 or 30 years at this stage and it's still far far far from having any idea but much of the A5 progress has been stalled by objections which have ended up in some of the highest courts in the land are you saying that process should be circumvented and railroad the road through because of the benefits it would have for the Northwest region I really am saying this should have been started earlier you know there are issues about the validity of a lot of these objections and it is a problem with all linear infrastructure whether it's the power lines we need to power our factories and our shops and lighter homes whether it's roads or whether it's railways these objections are going to happen they have to be dealt with and of course it's a thing with our politicians they're not interested in setting up a streamlined system that deals with genuine objections and deals with them quickly they would rather let the whole legal system run and of course we do have a problem in this country that the lawyers on the bench tend to always see that there is a need for things to go through courts I don't know why that is I just wonder in terms of road development I'm not sure there's a consensus in government in the Republic as to the future we will be told no no you're going to get your roads don't worry about it but the policy would suggest and the policy is enshrined almost to say that more money is going to be spent on public transport than might be or quite a large amount of the pot is going to be spent on public transport but I mean we're so far back we're never going to have a public transport system in Donegal for example really mean you don't have to have a car of your own you're putting your finger on it Greg we need better roads now we needed better roads yesterday we need infrastructure maybe to go with them to make the cars more sustainable but we need better roads now at the same time for 2050 we need a strategy we need to sort out the roads so that we have a better connection from letter to Dublin airport we need that for bringing in investment and we need safe roads as well we need safe roads because obviously it's great if you can get somewhere quicker obviously and listen I'm not saying that you're not considering the safety aspect of it but just I'm thrown in there as well Liam what is an acceptable level of it's not just the loss of life changing entries on some of these roads no I'm a family man when I go out that door in the morning and I've been trained I've been propagandised when I go out the door in the morning in the car if I'm going a route my duty is to come back home safe that's where my first duty to my family is to come back home safe but you need road conditions to be assisted in that all road conditions 26 and the N14 and all of those roads have to be brought up to a state that allows people to be able to say that I will safely be able to come home in a reasonable time safely that's the first thing I mean the historic lack of underinvestment ripping the railway up and we had this amazing rail network it's actually heartbreaking when you talk to people and they tell you about how they got about yes listen we live in a certain part of Donegal you're going to have to find a way you would have had to find a way to have got to the railway right I mean obviously it didn't go through absolutely everywhere but we had this amazing rail network we have got no decent roads up here we've got no motorway we've got an airport which is fantastic don't get me wrong and this is not a criticism of the airport but I would be pretty much at Dublin airport from where I live before I got to Donegal airport it should be better going to Sligo if Sligo is still operating if I have a private a little airplane a one prop I flown it to Sligo it was very enjoyable I can imagine so but I'm not sure it was a commercial flight Liam it was a PSO flight really I wonder how far back we have to go for that it was about 20 years at least Sligo would be much more accessible to me than they're all stopped but anyway that's a sticky plaster it's roads and rail that we need roads and rail but I'm a very much I come from having worked on an association with the metro projects with the Lewis projects talking to colleagues in Germany in the UK on rail that is the next point for the 2050 we need to start building up the alternative of the car that has been created by the car and it's condemned to the car for another 50 years but unless we invest a head instead of constantly investing behind which is the department of finances preferred option we're going to be stuck and we need the arterial we do but now it's not going to happen Liam what's going to happen is say you've got a pie and 60% of it has to go on public transport and 40 on road development okay what do you do do you look and try to build a rail road up to Donegal and onto Derry or do you extend the Lewis by another 15 kilometres you'll have the public public transport box ticked and it'll all be nice and handy down in Dublin do you know what I mean? I understand that's what that's my problem and that's my problem I don't I am very pro-green but the fact is things have to be done regional development the economic plans and national plans for this country see a million new people in the country by 2040 a million new people in a country of five million I would say we'll get to that much quicker particularly with the pressures on the labour market with no natural growth so this is a huge demand now if they keep saying we have to solve and build Dublin problem and build Dublin half of the three quarters of those will end up in Dublin just making the problem worse and worse we've got this strategic view that we've got to get things and tether has been pushing this very strong Dublin needs the regions to develop it needs good quality public transport although I get you but I think with the way things are going Derry even say the direction of travel Dublin's probably kind of worried about what that city will be in 10 or 15 years if it's been populated by workers and also to you can tax us out of cars you can only do that morally if there's an alternative you can't tax us out of cars what are we supposed to do shanks mayor I don't think so this is the problem with heating and with cars as well is that they can tax us slowly out of them and make it more and more dear but we need capital to actually do the things that change over and the people in places like Donegal are the people that are most vulnerable don't have the capital to change over but it has to be a complete change of attitude in centre in the Department of Finance we need the greens to accept that the regions need things we also need the government to not sit in Dublin and we need it so they have access to civil servants that aren't completely Dublin brainwashed because it's clear now they make the decisions at the centre the ministries have to be moved out to a loan or wherever to stop them Liam Mulligan Liam Mulligan of the N2 party thanks for joining us nice to chat sorry to rush you it's just we're right up against the news I appreciate it take care I'm sure we'll chat again let our Kenny see you.ie Treat yourself or a loved one to a Clarence gift of beauty from McGee's Chemist Letter Kenny purchase two Clarence skincare products one to be a moisturiser or serum and you'll get a choice of four treat-sized essentials from a selection of eight together with a gorgeous cosmetics bag which four will you choose available while stocks last in store at McGee's Chemist Letter Kenny and online at McGee's.ie with the best cost less from our soils, our sustenance from our farms, our food from our farmers, our ingenuity from our villages our unique communities our meats, our grains our vegetables, our dairy our eggs, our fruit there is a little piece of Ireland in everything we produce an Agriware and Irish Farmers Association initiative promoting environmental economic and social sustainability Learn more at sustainingarland.ie As the exclusive sponsors of the Donegal Sports Star Awards Donegal County Council takes this opportunity to wish the committee every success with their virtual award ceremony which will be streamed live on their Facebook page at 7.30pm on Friday evening the 28th of January. 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Thanks Greg good morning the Shannon has been told that giving people the right to ask if they can work from home is meaningless in many rural areas where the rollout of broadband is still a long way off Independent Senator Eileen Flynn said Donegal and other rural counties should be prioritised in the national broadband plan rollout but instead the county is one where almost nothing has happened so far Concerns have been raised about the checks and balances in child and adolescent mental health services. It comes after 46 children were found to have been significantly harmed after being prescribed inappropriate medication by a junior doctor in South Kerry between 2016 and 2020 Meanwhile Donegal Deputy Pierre Storty is calling for a comprehensive mental health strategy for young people. Speaking during statements in the Dall on youth mental health Deputy Pierre Storty says the evidence is clear that much more needs to be done to support young people. A mammal appearing court this morning charged in connection with an attempt to collect a dead man's pension in Carlo last week. 66 year old Pat or Doyle was brought to a post office in Carlo town by two men last Friday morning but staff became suspicious and were made to claim his pension. He was found to have died that morning. There were 57 people awaiting admission to letter Kenny University Hospital this morning according to the INMO a rise of 3 on yesterday's figure of 54. It is once again the second most overcrowded hospital in Ireland today. A bill which would see a person convicted of stalking face up to 10 years in prison could become law within weeks. The proposal would make stalking a stand-alone criminal offence for the first time in Ireland. And the foreign affairs minister has warned the consequences for Russia will be enormous if the country invades Ukraine. Russian troops have been meeting on the border amid rising international tensions. Warships are also on the way to Ireland to take part in military exercises off the core coast next week. That's it for now. I'll see you in the next video. Thanks for watching. I'll see you in the next video. Bye. Okay, you're very welcome back to the 9 till noon show. I've been asked to play a request for Lena Dorn, Manaconinga happy 97th birthday that comes in from Ellen Carlin. I hope you have a lovely day and are treated like the diamond. You are Lena. Thank you for that request. Also as it relates to the conversation we had earlier on about a it was a lorry carrying bales of hay, the bales of hay struck a branch. The branch came down and hit a car two and a half thousand euro worth of damage. The caller is in a bit of a quandary because they might have to claim it on their insurance and they'll pay it back. They'll pay it back, you know that. Who's fault is it? Well this caller believes the owner of the tree has to pay. Now I don't know exactly how that would work. If it's rooted in a field are you saying the land owner would have to cover the cost? I don't know. Right now someone messaged in emailed in in fact Andrea and it is the dumping of tar. Now if you put your hand over the tar and look behind it it's the most beautiful scenic view of Donegal's wild landscape. But unfortunately it is marred and tarred it's marred by asphalt being dumped and where is it? I can tell you it is it is at Dukery Village they say good morning please see attached email about the unsightly dumping of tar and asphalt in the area of the outstanding beauty at the entrance of Dukery Village. Right I don't know what's I mean it's done on I don't know is that stripped off a road is it old an old pavement so to speak or what? But it is a beautiful part of the county of course and it is very very unsightly it's fantastic for the environment either. 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and would you believe we still even get letters into the program and the way you get in contact with us that way is just you know the Uncle Noonshow or Greg Hughes Mount and Top Letter Kenny and we appreciate all the contact we have on this program and you know we can help you with issues too we're working on a number of things at the moment but often people will contact us you know with a problem and it gets resolved before it goes on air you know that's what we can try and help you with as well and you know if a business or maybe it's a local authority or the or Ryanair or whatever it might be often a situation can be resolved before it even gets on air so feel free to get in touch with us with anything see if we can help you what is it with people on Twitter and you know I don't politicians particularly or business people or you know people in authority 10 year old tweets you know where they've used maybe racist or misogynistic or just downright controversial comments firstly you would wonder you'd question their ability to be in such a position if they don't realise that they could be found out and that they should go back and delete or close their account if they've written that kind of stuff but anyway three Sinn Fein Stormont assembly members this time have apologised for historical tweets containing offensive language from Anna and South Tyrone MLA Gemma Dolan, South Dan MLA, Sinead Ennis and Mid Ulster MLA, Emma Sheeran said on Twitter yesterday they came after historical tweets containing derogatory and offensive phrases and language were unearthed by BBC Radio Ulster's Nolan show which effectively means they went on Twitter and searched their accounts using certain key words and then the tweets popped up Sinn Fein deputated Michelle O'Neill condemned the tweets sent by her party colleagues and said they were not accessible or they were acceptable accessible but they were not acceptable she added they have each told me they deeply understand the language used and will apologise now of course you know things were perhaps very different ten years ago but still and it's not one particular party either it seems to be right across the board okay let's see if we can say hello to Professor Rose and Kenny who's joining us now can you hear me Professor no we're having a slight difficulty there I'll tell you what we'll do we might take actually an extra little piece of music whilst we get that technical issue lined out here or ironed out here is maroon five stay right where you are we'll be right back alright that is maroon five there and this love now a new ground baking book on aging featuring findings from the cutting edge research by Professor Rose and Kenny's extensive career in the field of aging is going to reveal why and how some people live longer, fitter, healthier and happier lives than others and I'm delighted to say Professor Rose and Kenny joins us on the program now good morning to you thanks for joining us Rose you're very welcome good morning yeah it's an interesting one isn't it I mean like say for instance I think the life expectancy in this country is in the low 80s, 82 or 83 something along those lines I mean for us for most of us is it a realistic expectation to reach that age well absolute well I mean on average absolutely and the demographic data is showing that it continues in Ireland year on year to increase lifespan so that I mean I equate it to it's three months per year so a baby girl born last year sorry born this year will live three months longer than her sister born last year that's kind of a simplistic way of looking at it but actually that's how the demography pans out alright well we can take the average but just on an individual basis I mean you know there are certain groups of people maybe it's because of their lifestyle live longer and live healthier lives what is it down to what is the differences there there are certain groups and actually a lot of the information we've got around the processes that drive aging is predicated on some of the communities that have lived extraordinary long lives lived into their hundreds and beyond but don't just live become older more frequently but are actually better in better physical health and mental health than one would expect of that level of longevity the blue zones are you know a typical example of that where five areas in the world very very separately apart which is really interesting geographically and yet they share the common features which we now know determine the pace of aging the zones are in California in Costa Rica, Sardinia Icaria in Greece and Okinawa in Japan alright and what's different there to everywhere else well first of all it's notable that they're all by the sea and all on an elevated height that's the first thing to say and then there are some characteristics which are common to all of them and the probably the most one of the most striking ones is the sense of community in blue zones the egalitarian approach and you know in some of the households three, two, three, four generations are living in one household one researcher who sat in the kitchen of someone in Sardinia who was over a hundred remarked on it was like being in a train station there was so much activity around around the place people coming in and out all of the time so fantastic communities fantastic engagement never a dull moment and then the things we would expect like predominantly plant based diet low or no sugar or salt or processed foods exercises is kind of is woven into their daily activity it's part of the fabric of daily life something one consciously does for an hour with that in mind say for instance it wouldn't have been uncommon I would imagine forty years ago perhaps for someone to cycle three or four counties to go and watch a football match in Croke Park and would be capable of doing so but now if someone were to do that it requires lots of training and it'll probably be done for charity or something along those lines there's more life expectancy than the people that were clearly naturally healthier or more determined I don't know thirty or forty years ago so some of the factors that have changed which actually do influence that are stress and less stress in our lives and we believe it or not I might not feel like it now and Covid will be an interesting experiment when we explore the impact of that long term but generally speaking stress is less evident in our lives today technologies are much better we're doing earlier prevention and screening detecting cardiovascular disease particularly I mean in the forties and fifties cardiovascular disease was a big killer in men there's less smoking then people didn't know what we know now about smoking and un-tipped cigarettes, wood binds we're not uncommon I agree with you that sort of physical activity was integral often to daily life and of course a lot of manual work was obviously integral to daily life so you gave the example towards the beginning of a sister born last year compared to her sister the year before and her life expectancy would be three months which over the course of the year is really quite significant can someone in their fifties in their teens or early twenties make lifestyle choices that would see their life expectancy align more to the new born of last year or absolutely and this is a really important area there's a fabulous study called the Dunedin study which is kind of like our Tilda study but instead of starting at 50 they started at birth and they took a thousand babies born in the one year and followed them as we do every two to four years they're now 44 and what they noticed was that even as early as age 20 biological changes are setting in which determine the pace of age and determine the likelihood of getting diseases earlier in later life and some of the drivers for that accelerated ageing at such an early age were adverse home circumstances, adverse childhood experiences, poverty alcoholism in the home divorce or separation or disharmony in a home etc so it does start early now but definitely the science shows that the earlier you start to intervene and to modify behaviors that we know are really good to slow the pace of ageing the much stronger the effect will be but then the curve ball is genetics too though isn't it you know some of us are predisposed to stuff so with the best will in the world it comes in and it's like a wrecking ball I won't ask you to guess on air what contribution genetics plays it's quite surprising it's 20% only 20% of our ageing process is determined by genes but you're absolutely right there is a misconception that it's much higher than that 80% of the ageing process is modifiable that's kind of the message of the book and detailing the things that we can do you know but the comradeship the friendship that's fun we can do to at a cellular level impact ageing are fun laughter I mean most people probably don't realize the positive biological effects that laughter can have and repeated laughter particularly with friends is really good for de-stressing and reducing background inflammation biologically so you know laughter having a purpose in life and that purpose talking of purpose you know in the pandemic and you know this could be regardless of what your view might be right this is not having to go anyone in particular but you know I do see people who are passionate or even angry it seems to be 24-7 and I just wonder what impact that might have on your physical well-being you know what I mean like it might be something that keeps you going or you know you're so passionate about it doesn't matter the consequences you'll keep fighting and have you put all that energy that goes into it and especially now with the fact that when you are sitting in your house you're probably doing it on your phone as well it has to have its toll on you into the long term doesn't it so we do know that your outlook whether you're an optimist or a pessimist whether you've got a positive emotional disposition or a negative emotional disposition does impact on longevity probably influences longevity by seven years actually this was nicely illustrated in the nuns study where they had letters from a convent of nuns who were now in their 80s when they were being studied but they had letters when they were novices before they were fully invested and the the tone and the psychology behind the letters were explored by researchers and remarkably the nuns who displayed positive emotions a positive outlook were kind of light hearted about things they were the nuns who lived longer but significantly also were less likely to get dementia might okay that's interesting and this is all the background and there's a wealth of it and you've got so much to draw on it and we're going to talk about why people should buy the book yes to get all this information but maybe things they can change to prong their life and not just their life but to have a better, happier, longer and healthy life so we'll get to that in a moment but it's it's interesting that you do see certain groups of people like you mentioned nuns who live longer so let's start talking about we can't all become nuns it's not practical it might benefit us though so let's talk about what we can take from all of your research to implement in our lives and do you know what I think even if we didn't live longer we might enjoy whatever time we have we might enjoy whatever time we have left more anyway yes that's the latter statement aligns well with Denmark where they have a much better quality of life overall they invest in children and adults but they don't have the highest lifespan in Europe they have one of the highest and the reasons they don't have the highest are they do quite a bit of drinking and smoking but out with that their quality of life and other behaviors are you know very very chime very well with everything positive we're talking about you said one of the other things I think how you perceive yourself aging really matters and you alluded earlier on to COVID and the attitudes and approaches and I was very much against and this was on an international level this isn't in any way a national issue the fact that internationally if you were 70 you should stay indoors the message that sent was you've reached this number which we know now is irrelevant a number is irrelevant you've reached this number you are no longer needed in our society you can stay indoors you know there's nothing that we will miss about you from a society perspective I thought that was very never that is not really surprising is it because you know I mean you could probably look at the statistics and likelihood and who is likely more likely to scum but it's a very broad you know it's a very sweet statement are we not conditioned by throwing people effectively on the scrappy but 65 in countries in other words that as soon as you hit that age you know like you could be the top reporter in RTE but as soon as you hit 65 that day you're now surplus to requirements and that's just an example by the way that's not having to go with RTE because they're conforming to so I mean it's not surprising that it's open season to say that you know cocoon off that old film cocoon where old people were cocooned you know what I mean it's not surprising that that became acceptable I know but I'm just making the point and it's a very ageist attitude a really important issue which I do cover actually in the book this business of compulsory retirement it's illegal now in the states it's illegal for any age you know and they gradually introduced it with different ages and now there's no age limit for retirement in the states and I'd love to see us moving much more towards that in Europe but in Ireland we should be in the public services you've alluded to and you know life gets better after 50 that's the evidence we're wiser we're less stressed we don't have the other life circumstances which put pressures on us and make us miserable they've dissipated but we've also got the life experience which makes us better able to adapt all of the data shows life just gets better after 50 youth is ways to done the young is that what we're saying it continues to get better anybody over 50 who's listening will say yeah well yeah I get what you're saying on average it continues to get better up to about 80 and then it only falls off if we get physical illness that's the only determinant which changes those quality of life metrics and so I think how you perceive yourself matters and the societal message it makes it very difficult to be resilient in the face of negativity and ageism I mean when did it become acceptable right and this is not really when did it become acceptable to describe someone in their 60s or 70s or 80s that decides to go on the internet when did it become acceptable to label them a silver a silver surfer do you know what I mean when did it become acceptable to describe anyone over the age of 65 as a pensioner yes no no I don't know these are only little things but it all layers on to well no no language matters language matters in terms of perceptions and my point is a very potent determinant of biological ageing is how young you feel how you perceive yourself it's very difficult to be positive and resilient in the face of exactly the societal language that you've highlighted actually a large study has shown that as people get older they want to be referred to as older not elderly certainly not senile not a pensioner etc older yes well I stopped using if I ever did any of those that terminology an awful long time ago a couple of clips around the year probably assisted in my transition into a change of language but so what we've been talking about really and I've jumped from pillar to post my apologies but there's so much that's fascinating here you know be it the blue zones you talked of the studies as it relates to nuns our attitude society's attitude ageism our own attitude and all of that you've gone through that and so much more and you've created a book author of the Age of Proof Professor Rose and Kenny that's who we're speaking to the new science of living longer and healthier life so we'll we'll obviously get to read some of your research but then we get to your suggestions of what we can do yeah so so I think diet is well rehearsed but bottom line Mediterranean diet predominantly low salt low sugar and no processed foods that'll work okay exercise isn't just aerobic we have to introduce resistance exercise that's weights etc can I just go back to the diet thing as well like even on the most basic level presumably by the time you get to 65 or 70 or maybe even before 20 your bowel as a as a function of an engine let's call it and your digestive system has worked an awful lot hasn't it you know and anything you can do to ease its load through your life but certainly as you get older to make it have to you know so that it can work more efficiently on just the most basic level that's why we can talk about the importance of diet presumably yeah and it doesn't matter when you introduce diet the earlier the better obviously but you know people say I've been eating like this for a long time I can't change that that's not the case the microbiome which is the really good bacteria in the gut which we all need and helps us with the aging process actually can turn around within 72 hours so you know it's never too late to introduce good dietary habits and the other thing and also high fiber and that's in the context of what you've just said with respect to helping helping our gut to transit foods and the sort of other few other things that are worth reflecting on apart from diet is exercise I've said aerobic but also resistance training and then I do recommend whey proteins and I think the science is really gathering momentum in this in this area people over the age of 50 need protein supplementation you can get that in any health food store and there are other dietary things I talk about like supplements that you can take not the common ones but things like resveratrol and then things like having a purpose in life embracing creativity volunteering cold showers and which is where Hormeus's process which is really good for the system if you're cold water swimming and I know there are loads of them on the coast of Donegal including friends of mine in Bunkrana keep it up because that is so good because I would have thought you know if I'm even you know now you think the shock of it you know the shock to the system but that's good that's what you want that's Hormesis that's the system if you look at cells and you shock cells actually shocking yourself alerts other pathways good pathways positive pathways metabolic pathways within the cell so a limited short sharp shock is good it's very good and then you know we've talked about friendship and having a purpose etc they're all things that laughter lots of laughter laughter is biologically really good and even you know even rats laugh a mother rat will tickle her young rat to get the youngster to laugh so we've evolved needing laughter as a form of communication I don't know I haven't had an opportunity to read the book right but a lot of this I think people in the process of reading it might feel empowered feel that they can take control you know I think that we feel an awful lot of stuff is predetermined or predestined that we don't we can't change things where you show people what you can change positivity optimism do you know what I mean that you know everything's not a fater company that you can give yourself the best opportunity and even if it doesn't add an extra day to your life that whatever you have left of your life is going to be better and you'll be focused on more positive things rather than allowing the negativity to overshadow everything else was that your intention in writing the book as well the book you know the Tilda study which I run covers such a whole load four and a half hours of questioning and interaction with 9,000 participants over ten years collating the information of what drives the aging process in Ireland and then I took a road trip to rural Ireland and one of the best events that we had actually was in letter Kenny it was fantastic what they put on and I spoke about healthy aging and everything that the book covers afterwards so many people asked me have you written this down anywhere where can we actually get more information around this so it was the translation of all of those research findings over 600 pages or papers that drove me to actually put this into a language that we can all share and understand and have ownership over all right listen I really find the element to the 20% genetics because I think we lean on that an awful lot so it's interesting and so much more it's all very interesting who do you recommend the book for where can they get their hands on it so all book shops are doing it I'm delighted to say I was informed yesterday that it was the number one bestseller on Amazon for general biology well done that's an amazing achievement that is it's great and it was only out four days at that stage and so yeah all book stores are hosting it in Ireland to my knowledge I haven't seen any that doesn't have it and obviously then on Amazon all right listen I call it says in the past nuns grew their own fruit and veg and they are excellent cooks most of them the sisterhood energy of self belong has soul and happiness all this helps them live longer we've touched on much of that already you don't have to live necessarily that lifestyle to get the benefits you can adapt much of that into a busy lifestyle and then obviously the odd curve ball Greg I had a grand aunt who smoked players navy cut from the age of 14 smoking 30 day and lived to 94 so there is your genetics that's the 20% you know and that's a fascinating group for us as scientists to understand what is it about the genetic infrastructure in that particular individual and her others in the family who might have that same shared gene which actually protects against what are undoubtedly really harmful effects of smoking I'm delighted for her but I wouldn't use it as a sort of study of one that allows you to do anything in your life listen thank you very much indeed for joining us it's been lovely speaking to you and I've found it really quite encouraging yes someone who you know someone who would wonder what lies ahead thanks so much thank you bye bye take care professor Roseanne Kenny there she's the author of age proof the new science of living longer in a healthier life okay sounds good doesn't it the night till noon show is brought to you by letter Kenny credit union offering low-rate car loans with fast approval apply online at letterkennycu.ie or in office today are you putting your business at risk by using an 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picture that all remains you lifted and you see this awful awful situation Janice Ward joins us to discuss this she's treasurer by the way of the dookery development committee how long describe to us more where this is how extensive the dumping is Janice right well into have like mountains of them now you know there's even grass growing over some of them they've been there that long but there are quite a lot of fresh ones in the last few weeks there and apart from it being a waste of materials it's unsightly it's in an area of outstanding beauty and you know we have just taken over the development committee entirely towns group in doory and we're trying to make our environment nicer and then just as you come into doory before the corkscrew there's another pile being deposited there at the entrance to a little roadway and it's like you know they thought in our efforts of making any progress with the tidy towns entries we're having a tidy up ourselves on the 12th of February well it must feel a little bit frustrating if you're going out with plastic bags picking up rubbish and asking people not to dump in a beautiful area but you have this wholesale dumping of tar which obviously you would drop points on it it must be hard to motivate well obviously this is happening I don't think that those areas where we would be judged but the ones at the top of the corkscrew there might do and it's not just about our particular village it's about the area in general and people's disregard for the beauty of the place I mean those resources all that tar could be used somewhere else there are plenty of roads that need tar and the area where it's been dumped I mean the dumped mountains of tar beside potholes a few more minutes to get it out and dump into the service now as far as you can determine is this like an old pavement that's been lifted and a road resurfaced or is this excess road surface that's just been offloaded here the road doesn't seem wise it's very coincidental and you know these piles like I say are multiplying and it's surplus tar but obviously at the end of the day if they haven't used it for where it was needed they've gone back to the yard with it so they're dumping it all right and it's not I mean it's not insignificant but it wouldn't be too big a job for this to be removed presumably and located somewhere else where it's not such an eyesore well no it should have gone back to the yard and you know the entire somewhere then they've obviously got the implements with them to spread it so if they were going to offload it there they could have at least just spread it the council on this Janice he was the one that actually suggested we contact you and the media because he this is a massive bugbear of his and he's been fighting for these things to be dealt with for quite some time so you know our contribution was to make the public aware via the media okay I mean listen I mean there is important development work going on maybe this is part of it and 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regarding the egregious salary increase of €81,000 in a time when people are put to the pin of their collar maybe having to choose between heating or food seeing their energy costs going through the roof the civil servant receives €81,000 extra on to his paycheck it's unconscionable proving that Fina4, FinaGel and the Greens can't spend taxpayer's money quickly enough Yeah, I mean I just wonder it would be interesting to see if there is a change of government if any of that changes either have seen successive parties claiming they'd be the watchdogs of government or you know they changed stuff, they go in and then they just go along with the way things always have been or say we didn't quite realise it was as bad as this and it would take years to change, the usual excuse is it will be interesting to see if that kind of stuff if there were a change of government becomes a thing of the past, I would have my reservations, but we'll see just went to car and done a council office to tax a commercial vehicle belonging to a limited company, had to get a form signed by guards but no guards available in car and done a car money or moff a joke this form should not be required for a vehicle belonging to a limited company but they were unable to get access to a guard at that time another caller says another 50 years before we have an adequate public transport system in Donegal, it's ridiculous the climate chaos we hear long before that Dublin, Cork and Belfast city centre and Donegal town will be flooded if we are to believe what we're being told a caller says Donegal doesn't start and end in Lettercanny and Derry public services should start at Malinhead and end in South Donegal, the trains and bosses all used to run this way, many of the tracks are still there, we need to rebuild and use them instead of turning the whole lot into greenways and in a few years time we'll be doing compulsory purchase orders on land nearby to refit the train tracks, no forward thinking in this county Yeah, I see what you're saying and I think a lot of what you're saying there is probably true but I'm not sure there will ever be a railway there will never be one that's profit making the only way there will ever be a rail provided, say for instance from Sligo to Lettercanny and on to Derry if that were the route it will never like it had before going to the west or certainly not open to in a show now I'd imagine is if it was making money and it probably never would, I hope I'm wrong on that, I don't think I'll live to ride a train in Donegal, that's certainly you know not, I mean there are trains here you know what I mean, the old vintage trains and what have you but I just don't think that's going to happen this caller says I am 54, about 50 years they're chatting about a new road from Lettercanny to Lifford, since you were 4 yep indeed it's another thing sometimes you wonder will you ever see the likes of the Balabuffe, Strenwall or Bly, Biplas, etc please give my kind regards to the people who look after the food bank in Lettercanny I for one can now put on an extra fire with the support I get from them with my food okay that's lovely to hear and the food bank in Lettercanny, if you have spare produce always welcome of that and there's a person that received that and what they didn't have to spend on food freed up money to spend on other things like heat which is very important right we always look to the sky for a bit of a distraction don't we a mystery spooky object we read today unlike anything ever seen before was spotted by astronomers as it spins through space the item sends out a giant beam of radiation three times an hour for one minute and every twenty it is one of the brightest objects in the sky boffins think it could be a neutron star or a white dwarf collapsing four walls of stars four thousand light years away from us Doctor Natasha Hurley Walker of Kerchin University in Oz that's Australia said it was completely unexpected it was kind of spooky for an astronomer because there's nothing known in the sky that does that a uni student her own authority discovered the object using a telescope and a new technique he developed in the Western Australian Outback he said it's exciting that the source I identified has turned out to be such a peculiar object indeed okay right now we are joined on the program by Fiona Coil who's CEO of mental health reform and you know Fiona I mean what's your take on the findings of that report published yesterday it's good I suppose that it's been examined and that's been published but it makes for it makes for very difficult and worrisome reading yeah I know it's I suppose it's the situation that that's very worrying I think you know this story it first broke actually in 2011 in April 2011 when the HSE came out that they were responding to whistleblower allegations of kind of adult dosage in children in Kerry in South Kerry children and adolescent mental health services so engaged since then an independent review which the results became available just yesterday and it showed you know that the treatment of over 227 children were I suppose were treated in a manner that they should have been so you know there's I think there's a real sense of perhaps in the country at the moment with those who are accessing the services and you know we really welcomed you know there was a strong response yesterday from the Tisha in terms of you know saying that they will audit the 72 CAMS services throughout the country and we know it's much to have the former waiting to hear the precise details of that audit because you know we really need to build trust in the service it might not make for very good reading Fiona because we like I would say pretty much every radio station in the country that has carried this story today have been contacted people by people parents of young people relating some very similar stories yes no and I think that's why you know last April we called for a national review as mental health reform because I think you know when a story like this comes out you know the parents lose trust in the services and you know we have no evidence you know concrete evidence that's happening elsewhere but we need to ensure that the checks and balances and all the safeguarding measures are being rolled out correctly and that's why the details of this audit is really important like what will it look like who's going to conduct it and also making sure you know it's really important now that information is available to the families who are concerned that the college of psychiatrist actually in their statement they give some really useful guidance questions that the families could ask their services in relation to ensuring you know that the things are being done properly is it not possible that what we'll do though we'll conduct a study it could take another 10 years let's hope it doesn't and what it will find is that you know there is great demands on the calms service for example but people can't get appointments to see people for months and months on end we've been speaking to people waiting for 12-18 months then we'll hear you know there aren't enough qualified personnel available this recruitment issues and then we'll learn that we tend to lean then too heavily on medication and we're going to spend ages getting to that finding yeah no I fully agree I think you've outlined a lot of the issues there and this isn't just going to be resolved by another report this will need serious leadership you know to address some of those really primary concerns like there are 72 calms around the country there should be 100 of those calms services some of them are only at 60-70% stopping you know families and children are waiting up to 18 months as a norm like there are big issues that need to be addressed and you know one of the things that we've been calling on and we heard the minister state for mental health call on it which we were delighted to yesterday in the dial is that there needs to be a director of mental health services in the HSC. See I also heard from people within the medical fraternity and it went on for a pleasant reason but they're saying this was a junior doctor that was put in a position they had no support there was no oversight and they were trying to do their best in the circumstance they'd been put in. I'm not saying that's right or wrong but it's plausible. Yeah that speaks to complete lack of governance and support you know which is what really come out of this you know there was no case management you know there was no data protection and you know the support that were given to the families who were really lacking as well like you know all of that there's no backing away from that and you know we will continue you know to hold to the government accountable in implementing the 35 recommendations that came out of that report yesterday and we really hope as well you know it's a national you know it's a national scandal while it's only kind of the report affects children in a particular area and carry like it's a reflection on our national services you know that shame and lacking trust in the national services now we'll take a while to build back Well that's the problem you see people are now are going to be nervous of any say for instance if a medicine is suggested or whatever there's going to be a nervousness now this is going to maybe that's what's required but this is going to undermine those that had trust in the calm service the mental health services more generally yeah no and I think you know it's each and every child to use their services they deserve that care and the support and you know we we're moving towards the holistic model where you know medicine still plays an important role but there's talk therapies alternative therapy we have to have the staff and we have to have the facilities to implement that you can't be by geography it has to be contrary wide yeah and it can't you know at the moment postcode lottery like in some areas you know they're wonderful services and you know in other areas people are waiting far too long and you know these are specialized services and you know the people who are going to calms you know they didn't need support and they need origin support in many cases and the staff within calms need support as well presumably of course yeah Fiona yes unfortunately the clock has beat us I really appreciate your time this morning and hopefully we can talk again in the future if that's okay yeah no I would love that I appreciate you accepting our invite thank you very much indeed okay that's Fiona call CEO of mental health reform that's all we have time for today we'll be back tomorrow of course with the Friday panel talking of all the big stories of the day there's a topic you want discussed that you can suggest on our wait 660-25000 and of course Michael and Fenula will be joining us and so much more besides chat to you then the new show is brought to you by letter Kenny credit union download our new app today to apply and draw down your loan wherever you are if you've got magic moments or great memories captured on your smartphone now is a great time to have them printed at McGee's.ie simply upload your