 Okay, so anybody who just came in that missed it if you go to coaches of tech calm and hit the shares link You can get a slide share version of my talk So you can have it down a little closer to you if you'd like and Actually having that type of a thing Is a good tool for accessibility if you're teaching in a classroom? I had a student that was visually impaired and that's one of the ways I was able to do things for him Not necessarily that method through slide share, but through our campus learning management system I was able to put it up and then he could follow right along Okay, so my name is Trevor Johnson Stigelman. I am a physics professor at Finger Lakes Community College Which is just on the other side of Rochester in Canada Degwa. I? Also am do a little bit of web development, so I have a website that's called physics this week calm that I try to teach from And I'm always in the process of trying to update those things and being an educator Accessibility is one of those things that we have to be aware of and one of the worst things that can happen to you is to suddenly have somebody come into your classroom and Need something that you have not planned for at all and by doing a few minor things You can really set yourself up for success for that, so you don't have to do a lot of major changes later on So what I want to give to you today is a few tips on things that you can do as you're working on your website as your building pages and so on that are mostly painless and they just set you up with Things that you might not think of accessibility wise, but they're going to help out everybody that uses your website okay, so In some of the talks if you were at the Gutenberg talk they talked about not releasing it until The web content accessibility guidelines Were met for those types of things This is a set of standards that has been pushed through it is not It's it's always Evolving as things go on And there are some people who don't like it and some people who do But for the most part it's a very reasonable set of expectations for anything that you're going to put on the web and I'm not sure who picked the acronym, but if you want a poor website Perceivable operatable and not another oh, but understandable and robust type of a website if you look at some of these guidelines you can Find ways to make things so that your tags are good your fonts are good your links are good your images are good and Your contrasts and color are good and as I mentioned if you don't think about accessibility along the way it can be Situation where you can get yourself Into a bit of a pickle So this guy Morton Rand Hendrickson. He's kind of a really big in this He says make it accessible make it fancy make sure that fancy doesn't break accessibility and then Save money save time Make sure that you're doing these accessibility here With a 11 L y or a 11 y they took 11 letters out of the middle of accessibility To make it a little shorter. I don't know how accessible that is but They've done that with a couple of different words here But the idea is if you start from accessibility at the beginning and Then fancy it up You're going to be in much better shape rather than try to make something that looks really fancy that looks cool to you There might be some subtle design things in there that makes it tough for lots of different people to look at and the reason you want to worry about this is There are lots of us who have some type of a disability and it's not always the major ones that people think of you know So you think of seeing eye dogs and handicapped parking spaces and things like that There are other types of things there are people with hand mobility issues whether it's MS or some other type of a Condition where they have trouble centering their mouse for things I have an uncle or had an uncle who had Parkinson's and He didn't use the internet much, but he might have had trouble Moving his mouse around and trying to get fine details on a website There's all types of vision impairment. There's all types of hearing impairment. I wouldn't consider myself blind But my eye doctor told me that one of my eyes. I'm legally blind when I put my glasses on I'm fine and I Call them my Multifocal lenses because bifocals make me sound old But I've got some adaptations to that that helped me out But there are some websites that drive me baddie because I can't adjust the size of the font And I can't zoom in on my iPad or anything like that. That's an accessibility problem that Has made me decide. I'm not going to look at some some websites Now along these lines this picture here is my steps in my house My mother-in-law comes to visit. She actually came last night. So I left early in the afternoon so I could be here That's not quite true. I like my mother-in-law, but she comes to visit us. She has some trouble going up the steps so we put in the extra guide rail that wasn't there when we had the house built so we had the Contractor come back in and put that in for us She's at our house maybe two to six weeks a year She uses it a couple of times a day going up and down the stairs I use that thing every morning as I stumble down the steps and Sometimes as I stumble up the steps To get back. I Wouldn't have thought of that for myself, but it's an accessibility thing that helps me out for that And even if you're not you don't have a real vision impairment if you go outside and try to use your phone And you can't see it If you're designing so that you've got really dark darks and really light lights it's going to be a little easier to read There and that's not something that you're thinking Really accessibility about but it's readability to help people out So all these different things There's only a couple of percents there, but that's about 15.5 million users have some type of Thing going on and that doesn't count the temporarily impaired that doesn't count somebody who sprained their wrist Doesn't count somebody who has a black eye or those types of things And again those of us who don't have Something that's noticeable use tiny screens use things in the sunlight and so on So Why worry about this? I'll do the nice guy stuff on this side. It's just being a good person helping people out Make things easier for everybody and then the unselfish or the selfish reasons over here is one I don't want to get sued by the ADA compliance things if I can sell my website to a College somewhere it's going to have to be accessible and in fact because I use my website with my students There are accessibility guidelines that I have to follow for that that are by law This stuff has not come yet to if you're running a website you have to do it But it's not out of the realm of possibility that you will but if you're in a government site Or you're doing something for the government in web development. You have to follow the guidelines The other things those 15.5 million people I would not never say well I don't want a whole group of everyone throw out 15 million possible users For that so doing this type of stuff allows you to sell more stuff to those people you just generally have more customers available and Google likes this type of stuff because it makes it easier and more reasonable to read your content They're big on readability accessibility is Helping towards readability Okay, so there's a couple of ways that you can check your accessibility So if you have a website and you have not done this type of thing yet if you go to wave dot web aim dot org and enter your Website information it will give you fairly quickly a page by page report actually have to do it page by page But it'll give you a guideline here on how you're doing With it and then within here. It's going to give you Bits and pieces around your site And tell you what's going on in those places So if I zoom in on one of these I had an error Only one error on the page That it called out so I had a SS or yeah SSL certificate put on and they said here's a Graphic you can put in to show that you've got that there I got this kind of diver down type flag There and if I put my mouse over that on That web aim page it's going to tell me what's going on. This doesn't have any alternate text to it Now whether or not I need that I Probably don't but at least it has let me know if this had been something up in my content That I didn't have an alt tag for then it's telling me. Hey, you should really put this in Okay, other things that it does is showing me that I skipped some headings so I Went from h1 down to h4 down in my footer and It is looking for a hierarchy and we'll talk about tags in a moment that follows logically As you go down through the other thing it told me is I had some contrast errors and This dark gray text on a black background is not a very good idea. I thought it looked cool But the contrast isn't good enough there So I've done some adaptations to make this a little bit better It also tells you some other things So it tells you that you've got some features in there. I've got structural elements. Those are not errors Those are just things that it's saying hey, you're doing a good job on these types of things Okay, so let's kind of step through some of these things in kind of these five ways you can help make things better If you look at this this is kind of a mess But if I start to play around with it a little bit put some heading tags and so on It eventually becomes much much more readable For that so if you would look at the code, it's not very readable But what this has done it is it is organized it for me It makes a progressive set of things going on and if you have somebody who is cognitively cognitively impaired Having structure to the page is going to help them out. It'll help them keep focus and those cognitive type things It could be anything from ADA to some type of brain trauma it could be Somebody who's just trying to skim They don't need all the details and they look in if you've ever gotten an email. That's just one wall of Text that has no paragraphs in it or anything like that. That's an accessibility problem And you probably complain to somebody about that or if you have a student that's writing a paper Put some periods in there put some spaces in indent your paragraphs and so on This also helps out screen readers and I'll show you an example of a screen reader in a little bit somebody who cannot See the page, but is having it read to them One of the options that they have is to hit one of their buttons and it will skip down to the next heading So you as a visual person would just zip down the page until you found what you want Somebody who's using a screen reader would have to wait Until it was there because they can't scan things But putting in tags allows a screen reader to work through that and also anybody who's using keyboard motions Usually if you hit tab, it's going to skip down to the next heading level Okay, and these tags are not really anything beyond making an outline so It looks like there's people younger than me in here and people around my age If you remember way back when we sat down and outlined everything that we were going to do if you can do that You can set your web page up and if you can't just putting bullets and headline bullets and headings and Is going to help you out so when I was writing this talk? I decided okay. It's going to be about accessibility that would be my h1 tag That's kind of the title of my page level of information and then as I go through within a PowerPoint presentation I Have the next level down if it was on a web page. That would be my h2 tag And then if I go to a different topic whether it's on a different page or on the same page I just go down to the next level. I repeat with the h2 In there and then the subtopics with underneath those I do h3 Then maybe another h3 and then an h4 and so on down through and I would put my text in around those things So under the heading tags I might have a little bit of information about that and then I have my the styles Information I'd have some information about that and then if I break it down even further if you've used the Yoast plug-in and It's telling you to help improve your SEO Says hey, you haven't used the header. You haven't used any header tags yet It's doing that one so that Google ranked your page a little higher and Google is making you do that because they want your page to be more readable and therefore more accessible Okay, and you want to use these tags appropriately Don't do formatting changes where you just change the font Within the page do that in your CSS set that up so that every tag that you do For your heading tag your h1 tags that those are all the same throughout your your pages And then if you decide to change that you don't have to go through every single page and fix it okay Within the page though use your header tags. Don't skip those as you go down put that information in in the right orders and all you have to do is Within most of the editors there's going to be spots where you pick the heading So if you can see right up there below add media Heading one I can just click through that and add heading one heading to make it a paragraph and so on That sets up the structure. Yes, so It would be along the lines of Somebody thinks well wait a minute. Did I miss something or is it improperly tagged? So it's just trying to keep a hierarchy to it. It's probably not the worst thing you can do but Whenever you're hitting the down Thing so if I'm hitting tab to navigate through if I have skipped one It might jump way way down the page And miss that content in the middle So if I go to the h1 tag then the h2 tag and then it jumps to h4 There might be some semantic wait a minute scratch my head. What's going on type of things for it So it's just a warning that it will give you For that again, not the worst thing you can do But it will give you the notices for those types of things Okay, and then you can use these phrase tags Which is nice because most of the editors when you hit the I to make it italics It's really going to put into the code that it's emphasis It's going to put in for bold that it's strong So you don't have to know all these HTML tags for it. It kind of does it for you naturally But then if you go from this view Into The text view you can see here that this word showing emphasis this word down here It is put into the code that it's emphasized Some of the better screen readers will actually put some emphasis on that So somebody who's listening to it, you know, if you've ever listened to us a Mechanical voice just reading something. There's no inflection things like that the better screen readers Are being developed so that it puts the emphasis Where do you want it and you do that? Naturally when you're speaking This gives people a way to see that on the page or hear that Through the screen reader. Okay, some of these other tags that are there I use Divi and there's extra tags in there. Most of them are just the ones across the top That will go in okay, so here's an example of a screen reader and I'm not very good at this So there's a couple of pauses Okay, so I'm going through there. I was hitting tab Okay, so you could hear there that it actually said aloud heading one So somebody who's visually impaired listening to this knows what's going on. It's the same thing in your audiobooks What I say chapter 2 or section 5 Going through it's helping guide you through there. That's where missing a tag Might make somebody say oh wait a minute that I hit my tab key too many times So having the structure in there is going to help folks out Okay, now there are some tags for other things and all of this stuff you can go really really deep But if you do some of the the higher level things you're going to get your 80% Or you do 20% of the things to get 80% of the way there but There are coatings for the world web consortium that give you different types of Landmarks and that's going to help people know whether they're in the main setup whether they're in Complimentary areas so these things that would be off to the side that might be there all the time The screen reader Isn't necessarily going to read these allowed on every page Just like once you look at two or three pages you're going to kind of ignore that stuff But if you hit the right combination of keys, it's going to take you to those navigation things If you need it, okay moving on to color Here there's a lot of funky things that you can do that really can break your website break your images You can see here that nothing is possible That is not meant to be Demotivational if you look really really closely the color of the waves is the color of the text and then here color can enhance your website this stuff with the The gradient that looks really cool breaks spots For everybody and if you have any Poor vision at all you can probably barely see that As you're going on so there are several different Things related to color and contrast So somebody who has quote-unquote normal vision is going to see the rainbow of colors there But if you have different types of red green blue yellow or just Chromacy going on You lose those things If you want to find out anything that you have and you don't want to pay the eye doctor to do it if you go to Enchroma comm test it will show you a series of pictures like these where you can go through and if you Can't see the number In one of those it's going to give you kind of a diagnosis of what things are going on with your vision For that this one. I am not sure if I have a problem or if they're just screwing with me On that So it'll go through and it'll ask you to show the different numbers I'll show you different numbers you type in the number that's there, but I I went through and kind of cherry-picked the ones out For it. It's just kind of barely one there But if what's that? Okay, okay Thank you. So Again, these are things that you might think all this is the boat most wonderful You know funky color scheme that I can do and then you lose some percentage of your viewers Through that type of stuff Okay, so a couple of contrast tips We've all seen these websites somebody said oh, it's easier on the eyes if the brights in the darks aren't quite so far apart from each other bullcrap Do the best contrast that you can get There are several websites that I have stopped using because they don't give me the option to do that now for a while They're there within the different browsers There's ways you could set it, but then there's always another browser that comes out and so I've just decided that some of these I'm going to stop looking at Because of those contrast things and if you're going to set these Make sure you set the foreground and the background So that the contrast you know somebody's using the dark mode In their browser It's going to pick a nice dark mode and switch the text for you Okay, be careful of the color gradients especially when you've got different colors going on so People who can't see red and green are going to have trouble with this one people who can't see red and green It's even worse for that Okay, and many many themes will give you an option for an image in the background. Don't do that Because I Lose different colors of text here and even if I fade it out in the background it still Can cause some problems especially if there's a feature in the image That makes a one letter look like a different letter Now if you want to check the colors on your website again web web aim org has some resources where you can actually go in and pick out Different colors so If you go into this Somebody said in the last one don't use live Live demonstrations and I thought I could do it which is why I have Put my screenshot in here. So on my website. I Had just made it. It was physics this week calm I felt really good about myself so I went out and bought a hat to put the logo on and I went through and I picked out the hat color that I really liked and Then I picked out the thread color that I really liked. I thought oh that that sets that off very nicely Put it on brought it home and then tried to make my website look like the hat because he didn't have 15 million colors in his needle in his threads or in his hats But I tried to match it and then it turns out that on many levels here I failed in the contrast test and Notice that there's different levels you want to go for The highest level that you can with these And so the contrast level has to be seven to one for normal text and it's not quite as bad for larger text But it's only this really large text that passes For this so I was getting errors on my website that said here's contrast problems So somebody who was looking at this might miss the fact that there's links down at the bottom or links up at the top For that and it's a relatively easy thing to fix so in your Customizer you can go in and pick out the different colors If you look at the colors that you have it's going to give you a hexadecimal number You know series of letters and numbers that tells you what the color is you go to this page Just type it in in those two spots, and it's going to give you a score for that And a lot of times it's just a little tweak and it'll actually allow you to slide them a little bit So I didn't do a huge change it was just I knocked one up a little bit and one down a little bit and Fix that problem within my page Hey, the other place you want to watch out for is make sure that you're using more than one signal To connote meaning in here, so if you look closely at these stoplight things Most intersections red is at the top yellows in the middle greens at the bottom Apparently somewhere in Syracuse there were riots at some point because the Irish thought that the Green should be on top of the red The damn Brits and they fought back and forth for a while But they eventually realized it with accidents and things that they needed to do it this way a lot of intersections have those lights across You saw those for a while. You don't see as many of those as you used to because The meaning was changed and it's hard to tell In those situations and that's the type of thing even for people who don't have color problems if you're suddenly doing things differently It causes problems Just before this talk I went to use the restroom And you look and I've got all those funky lines going on I thought oh, that's really cool And then I went to the side that I think is usually the men's room There's no sign on the door You have to back up five steps and look way up there to see that So luckily I stopped and paused for a second and did that and didn't get myself into trouble or on any type of a list for walking into the wrong restroom But typically because we bleed red we use red for errors and green for good things Somebody's colorblind can't see that so give the name on the button as well as a color scheme for it So like I said, I teach physics so I have different graphs and so on a lot of times People might print something out. We don't do it as much as we used to But a lot of times people will print you lose that color if you go across so where This is not a problem Accessibility wise too much Somebody with some color issues might not see that but Everybody that prints it out is going to have trouble with it So what you can do is give a little different meaning having dots and dashes Instead of those types of things instead of just color differences for those Okay, and then with your links, you know adding into this You know the next thing that you can look at with your links when you've got topics like that It's not just the physics that scares people off It's all that in there and I've actually set my What do they call it my slugs to try to be somewhat readable But if you're using dates and numbers and random things that go in there, you don't set that It's going to make that even more horrible and now it's this long and it's going to wrap sometimes around your page Try not to use those directly as links go down and use your anchor text And you can look up guidelines for that but what that's going to do is give a nice small word The screen reader is not going to have to read a lot people are not going to have to Search in there to find out what that topic is about use informative structure People move away from the Lines and underlines you know way back when every link was blue every follow link was purple Probably want to stick with that even if it clashes a little bit with your color scheme because it gives meaning As you go through that Okay, when you have a screen reader When you hit tab, it's going to move from spot to spot. It's going to hit the header tags It's going to hit the links and it will say what the links are Some of them say link not all of them do for that, but by using your anchor text You help your SEO tremendously But you also help people out here's an article about using link properly links properly for more information about links click here I've seen that on many many web pages and then I'm thinking well, where's the link You know, do I actually click there? Do I click past it and sometimes people will say click here in the information about links will be the thing that's the actual tag for that So make sure that it's there reasonably Click here. That's better than the line above But you don't get as much SEO juice out of that Because everybody has a tag that says here only you have one that says using link properly or magnitude and direction and physics Okay, the other thing is the screen readers if you are using your anchor text If it opens in a new window You can set up the tag to say that But if you make it say, you know make the person wait for Link opens in a new window products link opens in a new window about links open in a new window And so on that's going to get real annoying real fast just like the fifth time you call back to Customer service and you have to go through that menu system And you just keep hitting four and then three because I almost know that the sequence But then I mess up on the last one on I have to recall back you want to try to avoid that type of thing and Be concise with your wording in order to contact us. That's way too long of a link The understanding of most people is contact us means get us you could probably even just put contact For that about is good enough these days. That's kind of the code that most people have Gone in it's a little better to have more words, but when your links start going all over the page in your header That can be Troublesome they can cause errors you can put things out of the color range that you want for them, okay? And most of us put images of some type. Thank you Most of us put images of some type into our talks Are into our web pages the alt text is a description or a context that? Tells you what's going on with something so somebody who can't see this picture will at least have an idea that there's a picture there of Albert Einstein We call them alt tags, but it's really an attribute, but that's something web designers can get in big fights about Obviously you wouldn't want to use all this as your link information, but you can actually see in here This is Albert Einstein hidden in there Yeah Exactly because the screen reader Might read all that stuff depending on the settings for the screen reader and it's just going to read all those types of things So you're trying to you know Google knows better with all that tag stuffing So be wary of that Thank you Okay, and you can control this whenever you add media to your page you can go in and Set these things up so we've all seen this type of page or you can fill out the form for it The title you want to make sure the title has meaning don't just call it picture one picture two picture three That helps you when you want to go back and look in your files to see where it's at The alt text you want to just have a brief description of it This part that is the description and here's of you know a wording problem This description is not what the screen reader reads that is SEO type stuff that when you go to the Attachment page It's going to show the picture and the description of it that you put in So if I want to get my name out there a little bit more for my pictures I put that in on that page and that gives me more Google juice towards my own name Okay, and if you do a mouse over or if you you have a really poor internet connection It's going to show you what that information is in the alt text So that you can decide am I going to wait for this thing to load or am I going to go on or if you're doing it On your own page and you see that you know what you meant to put in there Six years ago when you put this on the page So again you can help yourself out Okay, you don't have to re-copy everything as you go through Just in the interest of time. I'm not going to spend all the time on these If it's only the image or that's a link you must have an alt attribute Because that's what the screen reader is going to read For that so if you have pictures for example, there's this page goes into How you would tag that famous portrait of George Washington If it adds nothing to the discussion you don't even have to say that it's there Why say no no no no no you know you can't see the picture For that but if it's a link you do need to put it in there or you might put in a portrait of George Washington okay accessibility and Helping people out in general I don't know what your politics are but developing websites or any web content that automatically plays sound files is now punishable by death That's why I think we can all get behind Again, there's some new sites that I just don't even follow the links to them anymore because I know that at some point It's going to put in It's going to start playing things and if I've already scanned the page and moved on and didn't close that tab It's suddenly going to start yelling at me and probably showing me a commercial for that But if you do put videos or anything like that onto your website If you do it through YouTube YouTube will actually go through and it used to take a couple of hours It's now within a couple of minutes maybe 15 minutes that video will have very poor closed captioned on it so if you ever watched like CSI the Close captioning is perfect if you watch the local news. It's kind of just jumping all over the place It's on that local news level because it's done automatically For that but you can go in and put in the periods Put in the capital letters fix things Like this one so I was showing people what happens if you put a A glass ball or a plastic bottle outside on a really cold day and The closed captioning came out you take a look at the top bitch really getting steamy inside That is absolutely not what I said. I said if you look at the top it is Well, I probably said it's really getting steamy inside So you do have to go back and look at those things But when you do this You're going to benefit everybody Confusing words are spelled out if you have English as a second language folks They can pick their own language and put it in or they can learn the English words a little bit better If you are putting things up people can watch it on their screen on the subway And if they're your buds or you know if they've dropped their iPod's or whatever they call them if you've lost those You can still watch the video if somebody's trying to talk to you while you're You know trying to sit at the dinner table and watch videos, you know They don't have to listen to the sound of what you're watching for it Okay, and SEO stuff. This is the you know the selfish end of things for it That postage crime you can post the transcript. You can copy that stuff out. That's more linked use for you You get a boost from that the SEO. They're somewhere in that algorithm that Readability is in there that it's closed caption It's going to move up the ranks rather than down the ranks for that and then you can take that stuff and do a blog post With your video and all those types of things that help you out in addition to helping everybody else out so since it was Star Wars Day yesterday in The real last one Return of the Jedi in that one There's a line that the Emperor says about a sanctuary moon And I watched that so many times on DVD or not DVD on on VHS trying to figure out what the heck is he saying and Then I had the the DVD for a while before I realized oh, I can use the closed captions And I found out that he wasn't saying blah blah blah blah. He was saying your friends on the sanctuary moon Or in there so that helped everybody out Well, at least they don't me out Fonts picking out good fonts It used to be if it was in print you put the serifs on it the little fancy things on screens You did not do that these days You can use either serif or not all of these are fairly good Fonts to use on your website. They have good accessibility scores for Dana is Actually the most preferred because of the ways it's ones and L's and all those types of things fit together But it's kind of big But it also scales pretty well. It doesn't look pretty but if you look you find a pretty font You can check the accessibility score and see if it makes sense Okay, all of these fonts are at 38 point on this screen Please don't use these Write these all down. Okay. We're near Niagara Falls. So I put that one in these are all fonts You're going to lose people over because they can't read them whether it's because these damn kids. They can't read Cursive these days and it's just hard to read right So if your daughter's getting married and you don't like the guy pick that script out for the wedding invitations And so on but you know it has different types of problems Now kind of tying this all together Improving stuff helps everybody It helps you it helps your viewers it helps people who are impaired people who are not impaired people who are temporarily impaired so I'm not going to read those all to you, but think about these types of things as you're going and If you have the link and I'll put the link to the link Back up in a moment, but there's all kinds of resources here. You can really dig deep in this But seriously if you just look at the pages that you're making and say, oh, I'm not just going to change the font here I'm going to change the header tag and you start putting that process into place as you build more pages on your website It's going to be so much better for everybody. So again, there's some simple things you can do Make sure that it's good before it's fan. It's accessible before it's fancy and then don't break the accessibility Okay, does anybody have any questions? Yeah Okay, yep, so so I just started using a new new control from my phone. It's the Microsoft remote office remote. So if you go to coaches of tech comm I'll put together The link to the far right is shares If you click on that link Then it will give you the horrible looking actual link to The talk on slide share So it's coaches of tech comm Go to the shares link and then you've got a link to slide share other questions I put it up to YouTube and I waited 15 minutes And they do it if you look Let's see if I can get this back up on the screen. So you go in and put it in within your creator studio There's a link there that says subtitles and closed captioning. It does it automatic and then you just need to clean it up So again, I work in education If I want to put something on my website or on my my school page It has to be closed captioned So depending on how your IT department is they might say yeah Can you do it some other way? because it's going we don't have enough funds to Get everything caught up. Everybody's starting to go online. We need to do this and things you can do it yourself Just like that and then you don't have the big file You can just put the link to YouTube and it's all pretty well done and it's really Not it's it's a good job for a student to do but it's something you can do yourself I mean If you put up your videos in small chunks, so like all my lessons I don't do an hour because who wants to sit through an hour of physics But I'll do it in like eight or nine minutes of video and I can fix the closed captioning Within ten minutes, you know, it's really not hard to do And if you have videos that are already up you go in I'm sure that the automatic ones are already there. I think so, but I'm not certain So it is about lunchtime and I'm getting the Cut back there, but if anybody has any other questions you want to stick around We can do that if anybody wants to head out to get in line first you can But if you want to come up and ask me questions, please feel free. Thank you