 Why the Mandalorian is genius? Let's see what we got. How can I make this longer than five minutes? It's frozen. It's frozen. It's frozen. It should be jealous of this. It's frozen. We're about a sack of meat cabbage. That'd be better. Actually, yeah, I think it's better. An erect scrotum? I was trying to find allegorical meaning. I know I've had a fair amount of scrotums. It's sensitive. It asks you how you feel. And it can detect danger. It's soft and vulnerable. It's new ones. You think you go home, you get his nuts out, you go nice cabbage bags then. And then you fuck. Again, yes, that's the mother flip rhyme of mine next. Dude, we've got a sailor's mouth on you. It's frozen. It's frozen. It's frozen. It should be jealous of this scrotum. We're about a sack of meat cabbage. That'd be better. Actually, yeah, I think it's better. An erect scrotum? I'm just like a little boss. Halloween is superior. Christmas. Christmas creates misery. It's a totalitarian holiday. Everyone's been a while while it's around. The presents, the eggnog, the family. Oh, gay. Sugar plump berries. Oh, gay. Those chestnuts are roasted. Oh, gay. It's frozen. It's frozen. It's frozen. It's frozen. It should be jealous of this scrotum. We're about a sack of meat cabbage. That'd be better. Actually, yeah, I think it's better. An erect scrotum? I would fuck the shit out of 55-year-old Sharon Stone. Wait, Star Wars. Yeah. Let's go back. An e-fap far, far away. He is a true massive. And so the e-faping begins. The e-fap is like a glory bowl of water. They're all gay. A Nazi, a horse, and a woman. I got you now. Have you never been in a three-way with a girl, though? One tip removed? No. Have you never been in a three-way with a little clown boy? You damn lesbian. She indeed was the equivalent of an intergalactic demon. Uh, uh... I'm objectively dead. I'm okay with that. This is a trap. I've been dead before. When it fits a woman. I'm not drinking, and I'll eat, and I'll chew, and then I'll poop. I'm not drinking, and I'll eat, and I'll chew, and then I'll poop. I sign a line. I'm not drinking, and I'll eat, and I'll chew, and then I'll poop. Yes. That was a fantastic intro. Oh, I know those songs are just wonderful. That's good stuff. We, uh... You'll see us checking those out in a recording ahead of time on the, uh... Well, this, technically, it'll be in front of this, even though it was technically behind it. But hello! Welcome to part three of this, uh, wonderful nightmare. See? Yeah, this is pros and cons, all in one. Um, welcome to the roster. We got As, Evan, and South. I cut all your names in half. Sort of. How do you feel? Perfectly balanced, as all things should be. As all things should be. I should have called As. Ah. Ah. Ah! Congratulations on the EFAT 100, dude. It's a fantastic achievement. Why? Thank you. Privilege to be here. I appreciate it. Thank you. It's Mr. Raggles, as well. I'm here. All as well. It's both of our... We've been here for the whole thing. Both of us. It's kind of crazy. I've watched a lot. I've watched a good few hours. Yeah. The Jim Sterling stuff, I was hooked on that nonsense video. Nonsense video of his. So many great videos on The Last of Us 2. It's weirdly common, isn't it, that everyone's discussed such great things to say about it. It's almost like a game, movie, TV show that's this bad can generate so many hours of amazing content for EFAT to cover. It's almost like there's an implication there of what we may be covering. What is this density? It's bad. How bad is it? It'd be tally tubbies. They fucked up. And we're going to be holding their feet to the fire. Goddammit. They ruined Tinky Winky's character. Tinky Winky, in the newest episode, he fucking... He catches Poe having a bad dream and tries to kill him. It's fucked up, dude. Something like that. But of course, hardcore fans, we know what's up. And yeah, I think it's good that we're finally going to be exploring some videos complaining about it because... Or praising it, we will be complaining about it. What's the name of the vacuum? Sucks, it sucks a lot. Sucks a lot? That's oddly appropriate. I can't say, I honestly have a problem with that. Oh yeah, people are curious about those reactions. All coming up on Mueller, it's going to be one big rollout. Also, we got hit with a fucking copyright for the meme with Game of Thrones we showed Tonald. I'll have to see about what the universe wants out of that one. Hopefully everything goes without a hitch. Was it the Thor arriving in Wakanda theme, possibly? All I could see on the notification before I got started up here was Avengers, and I'm assuming it was the Tonald meme. Because I think the Avengers theme happens. I was sure that the laughter was going to knock it out, but you know how things work. You know how Avengers are, it's like you played our song for three seconds, 12 hours belongs to us. Like, oh. Yeah, that's the world we live in. That seems weird. That's great stuff. Hooray. It's up to them, it's their opinion. So that is the link if you guys want to just jump right in. It's funny, we did this last year as well, but I overprepared. We've got like another five EFAP 100's worth of content we could cover. I'm just looking at my notes. Yup, we got through about 5% of this. Well, it's good to overprepare though. The last of us two videos, there's still a selection of them to go through. The funny thing is, the one we're covering was what we were going to cover when we did EFAP, was it 99? 98. We were going to cover this then, but we ran out of time because Cosmonauts, it was Cosmonauts, right? Yes. This was awful. Well, I actually, I recommend it to you, Mahler. Hey, we should do Cosmonaut first because the internet janitor's video is even worse. We should save the worst video for last. Oh boy, now that I have all this energy. Yeah. I'm confused, like EFAP ran out of time? How does that work? Because YouTube capped us. Oh no. How messed up is that? You can see that we're streaming now if you could. Maybe the day that that does become a thing where they're like, yeah, streaming has now been boosted to 100 hour cap. We'll be like, oh my God. Everything changes. So yeah, is there anything we should know preamble before we do this one? Because like internet janitor, any of you know that YouTuber? Is there is the meme that he's a janitor? I've never seen a video of him before this and this is a terrible first impression. Never seen videos. Yeah, I don't know anything about internet janitor. I don't believe unless we covered him and I've just forgotten. Oh, I don't think so. I love terrible first impressions. He's going to take out the garbage. That's us. Oh my God. He'll take out the trash. This is called Why Didn't Ellie Have Damaged Tattooed on Her Forehead? The Last of the Two of You. I mean, it's a good reference. Okay. Maybe it was more of the streams unlisted. Is that true? I'll sort that right out in a moment if it is. I thought he had a different title for the video. Same public for me? What does public for me too? Give it the ol' refresh should look fine. So yeah, it's funny. We started streaming at this time yesterday. We crossed the 24-hour mark. It was always an interesting one. It's just like, what did I do again? Oh yeah, I sat here complaining. Just normal day. Every day is the way it works. So yeah, I guess we'll just jump right in. It's just a nod in every day. Here we go. Whoa. You have betrayed the fan base. Nobody wants and people... Hey, Ryan, get out. We know Ryan. Hey, you made it. Ryan? Absolutely hate what Naughty Dog has done. We're gonna pull 180 at the climax! Yeah. No! No! Nobody can tell me this ending makes sense. Hey, there was my bagging, boarding, and streaming. Stream with Nerdrodic on the side panel there. I'm happy. Well, you're all toxic. It all makes sense. You'd all be the each other's recommended you bastards. I really wish that Eric July would come on eFap at some point. I think he would get along great with you guys. Which one? Which one's that? So he's actually the last one that he shows up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Very funny dude. And very based as well. Well, yeah. Good guy. Exciting. Let's let us continue. Plus two, and I heard the game is 25 hours long. And I've been waiting six years to see what happens to Joel. That echo. So very sharp setting. Sad somber. I'd like to start this review off by answering one of the most controversial questions surrounding this game. On a scale of one to 10, how good was Joel's murder? No, I've seen him shot or eaten by infected. Wait, he's pretty bad. Like he's murdered? Or him being murdered? Him dying, I'm guessing. Him being murdered, which I give a negative fuck you and a half out of 10. Wouldn't it make sense to give it a fuck you and a half out of 10 rather than a negative fuck you? No, it's just it's just so bad. It has to be a negative fuck you and a half out of 10. All right, I follow. That means it's a positive. Yeah, I was going to say, you know, I'm just. No, no, not on my scale. It's like a negative fuck you would be a you're great. It's taking it back. It's like apologizing. It's like when someone says you're a stupid idiot. It's like, wait, a stupid idiot. I mean, I'm smart. I reject it. Plus a negative equals a positive. That's a reality. I reject your reality and substitute my own. Reality is always disappointing. It's reality is subjective. I mean, that's what Thanos thought. He was right. He was just changing that shit to whatever he wanted. Can you go wrong? I don't think so. I give it two happy steroids out of 10. Yeah. I mean, I just give it a fucking. I don't like it. Okay. I give it a no. I'd rather I'd rather like just watch a compilation of all the different possible death animations from the first game and see what they did in the second game with Joel. Back to so many times just murdered over and over and over and over and over and over and over. It's something as a culture we love to see in video games. So I'll be grading on a couple of different things. First, execution style. Let's say this is a pretty straightforward execution. A golf club murder keeps them alive long enough to really feel the pain, but then it's easy to switch up your grip, get serious and go in for that kill shot when you really want to wrap it up. 8 out of 10. Fear. Joel Cena. So I guess we'll just kind of do an interesting strategy. I'm guessing this is kind of a joke, like kind of just setting it like people didn't like the death. So he's just being funny now. Open with a meme. Let's break the ice, I suppose. Okay. Why not? Why not? Why not? This didn't really seem to faze him too much. In fact, he's so disconnected from it. He says one of the most badass lines in the game. Why don't you say whatever speech you got rehearsed and get this over with. So he didn't really The only part in that scene where Joel was acting in character, by the way. Yeah, at least they gave him that. At least they gave him a dignified last line. It's like, thank you for that. Yeah, we all agree his line wasn't out. As lost lines go, you know. Yeah. So he didn't really seem that scared. Looks like all those muscles weren't really intimidating him too much. 2 out of 10. Skull Crunch. This was Crunchwrap Supreme Levels of Crunch. 10 out of 10. L.E.P.T.S.D. This moment gives everyone involved, including L.E. horrible, horrible P.T.S.D. to the point where it's actually sad it made me feel sick about myself. 10 out of 10. I was just apathetic because it wasn't earned. Yeah. When she started getting the hits of P.T.S.D. I was sort of just like, all right, this is happening. I guess. That brings our total score to an 80%. So Joel's murder gets a solid 8 out of 10. That's a good murder. Except for this time when his murder is for real, apparently. This time, Joel's murder was just something we as a society were not ready to handle. Historians will remember this moment as the tipping point of 2020. It caused YouTubers and Twitter users to have a collective hive mind meltdown. They've been angry circle-jerking each other off. The hive mind, it was just really shitty and everyone recognized it. Isn't it crazy that several people can consume a thing and then have a similar reaction to it in terms of upset? Crazy. I love how many people will do this. They'll just like put videos side by side. They'll be like, then the internet just piled together and they had the exact same opinion. It's like, well, listen to their arguments. Maybe they have something valid to say. What was the source to him? Consensus has become hive mind and the two different things. It's funny how he says that the internet had a collective hive mind meltdown and then you have people like Cosmonauts saying that Joel is not a beloved character. Yeah. They're a hive mind of not loving Joel. I also just... Where's the video that says collective hive mind that enjoyed this thing? Look at these. It's not a hive mind when it's positive. We just went through hours of this on part two. This bullshit. You're not allowed to dislike stuff. You're only allowed to like stuff. So fucking boring. It's all wrong if you dislike it. Look at you fucking out. You're just angry. You're doing it for clicks. You're just following the hive mind. It's all wrong. Don't ask questions. Just pretend that it's what you wanted and consume more product. About Joel's death ever since. They're gone. They're nothing. They're broken or dead. All of them are broken or dead and all the new characters that I like in this game are dead and gone and broken. Alright. There's some of you gamers ready to have a hard talk. Let's talk for real about this game. Why don't you take a seat? Are you ready? So... What are you doing here? I'm here to make fun of the game, bruh. I'm here to watch you make fun of the game because this fucking sucks. Are you member of the Smash Bros. community? Yes. I'm Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC. I was initially... I get that reference. Alright. Oh yeah, yeah, okay. Congratulations. Yep. They're just as confused as everyone else. How can they kill off Joel? I mean, he's on a cover, right? No. What? No. Stop doing this. Really bad. Really bad stop. Because this is the thing. If you brought this argument up, it's like, yeah, why would people think Joel's like, oh no. No, no, no, no, no. Is all the promotional material? Yeah, that could have been it. What about the trailer with him saying, you really think I'd let you do this alone? That kind of eluded to me that he'd be in the game. Also kind of amuses me. Like, Boksa decides which characters are in the game. Where's Abby? Oh, wait, what the fuck? Why did... Where's my group coal gone? Where are my country gone? Uh, Rags? Are you there? Yeah, okay. What the hell? That was weird. I was like, did I get kicked? Call? Yeah. And it did the voice call. It just said no voice call for anybody anymore. Yeah, I like... Because you wanted to add somebody. I could only assume that was Disco. Disco was like, you want to add someone to the coal? I will disband the coal. You want to add someone? You want to talk to someone new? Now no one gets to talk. You know, like a lot of us, off you go. I have to ask you, what are you doing adding Sargon to this call when we already have Azir? It's going to be impossible to tell the two apart. Wow, racist. It's not totally different. No, I'll know. For me, Az sounds a lot like a love child between Fringy and Sargon. That's racist. That is very racist. How is that racist? No, it's homophobic. No, it's not racist. It's a love child between Az and... No, Az is a love child between Sargon and Fringy. It's homo-racist. Homo is racist. It's homo-racist. Yeah. Also, I just have to say, Joel being in the trailer being like, you think I'd let you do this on your own? That's a selling point. People are going to be like, oh, shit, this is an adventure with Joel and Ellie, and they're getting bamboozled. You're in the fake scene. The fake scene that was created to fake market the game. Yeah, in the trailer. It's not nearly the same thing as showing Hulk and Wakanda charging at Thanos. Also, who the fuck is making this argument that, well, Joel's on the cover, so you can't kill him off. Oh, yeah. We didn't even get to address that portion of it. Do we want to repeat and just replay that? No, no, no. I remember him saying it. I was just... This is what I mean. It's a 21-minute video, but I guarantee this thing is going to be dense when he starts making arguments. We don't feel like, oh, god, slow down. So, like... He's not on the box cover. No, he's on the box cover. Therefore, he can't die. I don't even... Like, what does the cover play into it? It's like, did you think Quint was going to be in Jaws? He's not on the cover. There's just the shark and the girl. How come Joel's died? He's on the cover. You know what I mean? We can blow up the shark. It must be the main character. How could you do this? Oh, well. That should have been a dead giveaway that something bad was going to happen early on, but still. No. Well... I think everyone basically knew Joel was not living through this game. Hey, you remember who? I think it was very commonly accepted. Remember how Left of Dead had an arm on the front cover? That meant all the other characters were dead. That's just how it works. Whoever's arm that was, even though it was a zombie arm, they'll be alright. Traumatized by this experience, who could kill our beloved Joel? The man strong enough to do this must have been... Wait, what? No, that's not the argument. It's how he was killed. It's the argument. It's the whole idea that we're just mad because Joel died. It's not that. It's the execution. Yes. Did you catch it? It's also, though, at least a guy killed him. Wait, it was a girl? No. I'm sure that there's some amount of people out there that would have been mad no matter how Joel would have died, but, I mean, that doesn't represent everyone. Why aren't they addressing the more substantive criticisms about how he died because of bullshit? Hey, guys, how's it going? Hello. We are solid. We're 20-something hours in this train. I don't know what time it is. I don't know. There's light through my window again, and we've gone a full circle. How have you madmen done this? I'd be your force of will. We did it last year. Fuck. We'll do it again. Yeah. So you guys talk about the last of us, too, are you? Yes. We're also talking about the last of us, as well. Otherwise known as gaming generation. Have we... Are we allowed to just say, look, this is the SJW's fucking stuff? Right. Yeah, you can absolutely say what it is. Yeah. I mean, it is, though, isn't it? Because, like, didn't Neil Druckmann get this woman who wrote the last of us won, force out of her job and take over her job? Right. So Amy Hennig didn't write the last of us won, to my knowledge. She wrote the Uncharted games. Yeah. He basically, she left Night Dog. She had to sign an NDA, so it's not entirely clear as to what the circumstances were. But he took a lot of her ideas for the game and then added in a bunch of stuff that she, like the character of Nadine, whom you're railroaded into fighting without being able to land a single hit on. That was all Druckmann's idea. That wasn't Amy's idea, which indicates a little bit about how much he's trying to please his dear, lovely Anita Sarkeesian. Well, yeah, I was going to say, I knew you guys would know, but for anyone who didn't know, Neil Druckmann is an acolyte of Anita Sarkeesian. Oh, no. Even back into, like, 2013, 2014, when he was presenting her the, what was the award that she got at the Game Developers Club? Well, that award was... Like an ambassador or something. Best to see a lady. No, no, no. It was 2013 that made it a presentation. The amazing benefit award of amazingness for women. Yeah. Basist girl of all time. That's what she won. Basist gamer girl. The most based lady, yeah. The OG gamer girl. Anita Sarkeesian. It was 2014 that she got the ambassador award, and Neil Druckmann presented it, and it was phenomenal. Ambassador Kirkwood. Not playing games. Hey, she bought... She went to Electronic Boutique. She bought some games. She took a photograph next to them. She comes up with a gameboy, and she's like, yeah, that's proof of gaming. Proof of gaming ship. Good job. That's not a good game. It's Nintendo. That's not a good game. One of the things that I... I didn't play the Last of Us games, but I watched a lot of media of people talking about it from each side, you know. And on the sort of social justice side, they were saying, well, this is brilliant. This has subverted our expectations. And on the non-social justice side, they were saying, why the fuck are they... And I don't want to sound bold, but kind of raping our franchise. Right? Like, the way... Which one? Last of Us 2. Oh, you've got to be specific these days. It's like 17. Yeah, sorry. But so the character of Joel, I understand that people had a great deal of emotional attachment to because he went through quite a lot in the Last of Us 1. Is that correct? Yes. I mean, yeah. He's the guy who's been the whole game with her. And they just... I'd say that, like, your connection with Ellie is... Like, his connection to Ellie is very much, like, kind of mimicked by the player as well. They do a really good job at making her equally endearing to the character around the same points that she'll be endearing to Joel. Yes. I agree. So, what do we make of the trans villain in the Last of Us 2? She's not trans. Oh, my God. Oh, isn't she? No. Oh, my God. She has a sidekick who's trans, but Abby herself is not trans. Oh, yeah. I meant the muscular trans lady. She's not trans. She's not trans, actually. She just really looks trans, though. Sorry. Oh, no. That's racist. That's hard done. That's racist. God, my eyes. They're such racists. But she's one of the golf clubs, Joel to death, right? Yes. Yes. Yes. And that, I understand, was quite traumatic for a lot of people. And I watched PewDiePie playing through it, and so I saw the person. I was like, right. Okay. There was one guy who... I don't know if you actually saw this, but there was a famous clip of a Korean guy that stopped streaming, took out his disc, and got a pair of scissors and just snipped it in half. Yeah. We can worry. You say A-scissors. Oh, my. Sorry, Rags. It's A-scissors. I'm too tired to get a shit about these little... We've been awake for a little time now. But didn't that guy's father and that guy's father had recently died? Yeah. So it just doubles on the pain because I think he really liked Joel as a character also. That's why it had such an emotional reaction. And I can certainly relate to that. Well, that's because Joel was built up all the way through the first game as a father figure to Ellie. And then in the second game, he got golfed. He got four ironed to death. And what's interesting is that there's a flashback where you're playing as Ellie and Joel taking her to this museum. It's like a really lovely memory. And it's actually like, it's really a great experience to have as someone that's like lost a father. And it's like, you're sort of reliving the experience of like a father figure doing this really great gift for you. And it just goes to show, wow, this is what we could have had for this game. And we got this instead. Well, it's weird, right? Because like, they still managed to... they still seem to understand the relationship they had. They were still able to write that scene, correct? Yeah. I have a theory on it. I have a theory on it. I think that Neil Druckmann was essentially attacking the audience. And what this is, is something that I think we can rightly term humiliation. The term subverting your expectations. And this was the same with Ryan Johnson with his Star Wars movie. It's not about... I mean, don't get me wrong. It does subvert your expectations to see Luke Skywalker absolutely humiliated, drinking alien milk have a titty, and throwing his lightsaber away. But what it is is disgracing the character. It's actively denigrating the character. And by extension, those people who like and care about the character. And I think that Neil Druckmann does this on purpose, because Neil Druckmann is a fucking radical left-winger, and he doesn't like the people who like Joel. We've seen that. We've seen people stirling, and who was it? It was... Yeah, like people, when they figure out that you like Joel, well, first off, they say Joel's a villain. He's evil. He's terrible. He did an outright bad thing. And if you like him, then you are a bad person with character failings. No, you're not. No, no, you're not, of course. They think you are. It's just the it's the absolutist nature of these people. Oh, if you think this, you're that. No, no. Can we please return nuance to the conversation? The different characters, by the way, that have been assassinated slash disgraced, Joel is probably the most like aesthetic one that in terms of just like, wow, he was beaten to pieces. Like the only way they could really top this now is if someone was thrown into a blender and all their flash just flew out, and be like, yeah, there you go. That about does it. They made sure to have someone spit on his corpse right after he dies, too. I was going to say, like, it's hard to talk what they did in The Last of Us 2. It really is, because obviously... That was the talk of an insert as well, Manny. Luke. The whole thing, like, you know the Call of Duty trailer with Yuri Besmanov talking about demoralization. I think that's kind of, I think it's part of that process. It's a kind of subversive process in order to essentially ruin the moral structure on which the franchise is founded. You know, if you can humiliate Luke Skywalker as the moral pillar of Star Wars, he's the guy everyone wants to be because he's heroic, he learns his lessons, he does the right thing. He redeems his father at the end of it. You know, he's the guy that you want to be. And so humiliating Luke Skywalker is also humiliating all of those people who look up to Luke Skywalker. And I think it's the same with Joel. And I think this is done entirely deliberately. And the reason I think that's most obvious in The Last of Us 2 is the Neil Druckmann self-insert having sex with the murderer. That's not his self-insert. But they do say it's not. Yeah, they do say it's not though. But I don't believe it. I don't believe it. It looks just like him. No. Manny's the one that looks like him. Manny's not the one that fucks Abby. Right, okay. But to be fair to you, Sargon, I think you got something there. The only time that Joel actually defends his actions to Ellie is like near the end of the game. Literally the end of the game. Right at the end of the game. Yeah, like I'll do it all over again. He's still not a great defense too. Yeah, he just says like I would still do it though. Yeah, it's quote-unquote defense. Like so many codes. I have to say like it certainly feels like the motivation is what you described there, Sargon. The worst part to me is the fact that they couldn't even have Joel's death feel like the events leading up to it make sense because how they have it happen, I wanted to imagine like a character in a story that's established to always look both ways before crossing a street, right? Yeah. And then one day, he just consciously decides you know that thing that I do where I look both ways before I cross the street, I'm not going to do that. And immediately he gets struck by a car. No, he gets struck by a fucking train. It's just on me. But you can see that's like like that's railroading, isn't it? That's him using his directorial power to say I don't care if this doesn't make sense I'm going to make this happen and you're going to watch as I do this to your favorite character. It's a fucking commonality around a disgraced character there's this damaged plot that's broken in every single way to bend over backwards to make the sit and the thing happen. And it's deliberately to wind you up. That's the thing. It's because I don't like the people who like this character and you can see it and every time they say all this subverted our expectations that's essentially the sort of package that's underneath it. No, fuck you for liking this. This is racist sexist patriarch or whatever it is and we're going to take revenge on you via the media that you like that we've gained control of and it's awful. What a horrible thing to do. What is it? Games aren't supposed to be fun? Yeah, yeah, that's a quote from Neil Druckmann. No, no, yeah, Cutman said we don't do fun. We don't do fun. We don't use the word fun. We don't use the word fun. Yeah, yeah. That is correct. I mean, I believe it when they say it. I think a lot of people believe it now. Yeah, we just said they're like, yeah, I got that. Well, like from a story perspective, I get the idea of killing Joel is to also rally up the player, right? But like everything else, the execution was badly done. Yeah. And then what they do is they make you okay, they try to make you sympathize with the murderer, but she's already unlikable. So I don't know what they were up to in that shit. Like if someone is unlikable though, she's evil. Yeah, she's sociopathic, I would argue. I remember it's Bobby Kotick as well from MTV that said the goal I had was to take the fun out of making video games. Oh, shit. But why? Because you like them and you're problematic. That's why. Yeah. Exactly. Why do you think all of it's the leftist sort of culture critics, they hate you, even though you don't bring politics into what you're doing? Like I can watch in fairness. Measurements, units of measurement. What was it? They're like Nazis or something. Yeah. Objective units of measurement. Yeah. If we're going to have a proper communist utopia, we have to get away with those objective units of measurement that take the natural world and chain it to our something along those lines you hold up a fucking ruler. They're like it's like a cross. Nature to our whims and such by confining it to standards of measurement. It's so patriarchal. Yeah, as one does. Well, the thing is if you're critiquing a piece of media on its own terms as the author of it intended it to be critiqued and made from within its own logic, then there's no room for this outside ideological analysis and there's no point to them. And if you're like look, I can do a valid critique from within the rules of the universe and in fact that seems to be a lot more popular than the alternative, then no wonder they're angry. I mean, I don't have to watch. It's like I mean, part of what we'll probably do here today is explain the fucking 10,000 ways his death made no sense. And it's just like, yeah, but how did it make you feel important part? The thing is that like while it wouldn't be the first like my preferred direction for the story to take if someone was to tell me like if I'm a writer working on a game and the director tells me, okay, this is the direction that the story is going to take, you have to kill off Joel in the first two hours of the game. I'm not going to like it, but I'll try to make it work and I'll try to have it make sense. I'm willing to work within those constraints. What if they said you have to have Manny spit on him? I'd go along with it, but I wouldn't have you try to sympathize with Manny afterwards. You'd have a scene where you brutally chop Manny into pieces, wouldn't you? Pretty much, yeah. Manny likes his daddy, so everything's okay. Yeah. Manny's dad is sick, guys. His dad is sad and he's sad for the death. I think he should feel sorry and he's a ladies man and he likes anime. Isn't he a well-rounded character? Oh, yeah. Don't you like him now? I think it's possible to make a well-structured story based on this premise, but the execution is what really matters in that and this was a piss poor execution but a very unpleasant story. If you're going to do this to your characters, it needs to make sense. Yeah, I would actually say Manny and Manny don't have two separate bunches of the same character. The characters at the start of the game, Abby and her crew, Sans Owen, are completely different to when we take over them halfway through the game. That's a major problem. They don't behave like the way they behave. Now we're going to try and make you like him. Play ball with the doggies. Manny's got a dad and his dad's sick and Manny's a good guy. He also crushes the pussy. Oh look, Mel suddenly got a fucking baby out of nowhere. Which is now pregnant. As was the one that told us and he saw it. In the Joel Kill scene, Mel's stomach is flat. I researched this. Someone on Reddit actually made a map. How long would it take for people to travel from Jackson to Washington? That's around at most it will be like 41 days. And by the time you get there, Mel's like almost going to get the baby out of her womb. It's like that big already. And it and you would say that, oh maybe I rewatched the scene. Maybe you could give Mel the benefit to doubt like she has a jacket. Maybe she has a small baby. She's leaving over. But Abby's shop that Owen told her that Mel is pregnant. So I think no one in the group knows that Mel was pregnant in the first place. Like at best she would be in her first trimester around that time. But suddenly she's pregnant. Like almost going to give birth. It's like so contrived for drama. It pisses me off. And it's like to the reveal that they have this lead as to where to find Joel in Wyoming takes place four months before the whole Seattle like the three days in Seattle. Which means that in the four months that have passed since then they traveled to Jackson and then traveled from Jackson. And it was only when they arrived in Jackson where they figured out that Mel was pregnant. And so it's like and I think there's like been three weeks Joel's death when they arrive in in Jackson or in Seattle in Seattle. Yeah. So it's like that's 21 days. Yeah. Yeah. It's insane. She has like a Padme Amidala type pregnancy that just she blows up instantly. And nothing nothing of any interest happened during that journey that they needed to develop the relationship between Ellie. Oh, no, no, no. No, you're supposed to be on their side the moment they do the kiss thing. Well, they're the gay. So yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. They don't need character development because the Lord of the Rings taught me anything that's it's that long dangerous journey stone effect character character. Um um to most of all, uh, south post saying earlier as well as like, um, the kind of controversial decisions we're dealing with, like again, produce a mind on nothing but just the concern of people buying the game and you're like, yeah, we're going to beat Joel to death the opening like, oh, you better you better make sure everything to do with that is like crystal clear. Right. You need everything to make sense. You need to go to justify that shit. People are going to be annoyed as it is. But if you give them an inch about like how stupid it all is, like this is going to be a fucking hail storm of just nonsense and crazy angry and they're like, OK, and then they just like fell over when they were writing it, I guess. So I'm well, I'm not getting the idea of a lot of like, I'm not getting the idea of them killing an important character in the beginning using this using the wrong stuff. We're telling them they're doing it wrong. But like what I mean is like and drunken wouldn't listen. Of course he wouldn't. He's a lunatic. But what I mean is like, um, it's not necessarily bad storytelling in my opinion for them to do something like that. Right. It sets up the villain as being really quite awful and I don't know what the ending was. I never I didn't watch until the end. So I mean, if you can get a really big payoff for Ellie getting her revenge in some expensive justice but I'm guessing that didn't happen. Oh, dear. Your expectations to be subverted. Yeah, man. People. My expectations subverted though. Hard work. So what happened is Ellie can't play the guitar anymore. That's the ending of the story. It's worse than that, Sargon. After you play as Ellie, you play as Abby and you're supposed to be on her side. It's supposed to. And then you as Abby beat Ellie. And what? Yeah, you beat Ellie. Holy shit. Yeah, you beat the shit out of her. And then you switch her perspective from Ellie to Jackson and she said P supposedly and then the guy that is supposed to be like chill about vengeance is haranguing Ellie. Why aren't you taking vengeance? And then she has the idea of taking vengeance against Abby and then you switch back to Abby. Hold on. Hold on. By the way, Tommy who went back in Jackson again is telling her she needs to go kill Abby. She's trying for them all to leave Seattle. Even though Abby wasn't dead, he said we've killed enough. This is what we're just going to have to take. Are you okay with that, Ellie? Ellie's like, yeah, it's going to have to be. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. And then suddenly he's the one who wants to pull them all out and then suddenly he's just like, you know what? I hate her. And Ellie, please kill her for me. Sorry. So you take control of Abby. Abby beats the shower of Ellie. You go back to Ellie and then what happens? The guy that wants to leave Jackson and is supposed to be content with just letting things be with what happened suddenly wants to kill Abby. Yeah, he has like the last known location. He's like, I know where she is. And you're like, okay, well, I don't do that sort of thing no more. And the wife is like, yeah, no, no, no, no. And then she's like, actually, no, I'm going to kill her. It's going to be great. And so you go on your little adventure as Ellie then for like two hours or so. And then you finally get to Abby. You have your big boss fight and you let it go. You let her go. You let her go. No, no, no, Ellie lets her go. She has a vision of Joel playing the guitar on the porch. Yeah, maybe I should specify she is tied to like a cross and she's you actually it's not as bad as because I make it sound better than it is. You don't just let her go. You save her life. You save her life. You save her life. Then you battle to the death. Then you let her go. Fucking hell. The funny thing is, Sargon, you don't even get to control Ellie by that time. Hold on, hold on, hold on. The game commits your options. You can't like use your guns when you find Abby hanging on the cross. You can just walk to her and let her down the cross and lead her to the boat. And then when Ellie She's going down to the beach. She's just going, I'm coming, I'm coming. She just lets her go. Yeah, it's so dumb. And what's worse is she doesn't just kill her on the cross. I don't know why you had to walk to somewhere and then decide, oh yeah, I forgot. I'm here to kill you. She has a backpack full of Molotov cocktails and explosive arrows and guns with at least some ammunition left. Those were Molotov cocktails of peace. He's been in the boat to then engage in a fist fight with Abby. Probably should have mentioned as well. She uses a knife. Part of the reason that Ellie probably spared Abby is because Abby bit Ellie's fingers off. That's something that would probably give you a sense of, you know, I want to forgive you. You consumed me. You hit my fingers off. You've caused all this trouble. I'm going to let you go because I'm so fucking forgiving. Oh, by the way, Sargon, her having her fingers bitten off means that she can no longer play the guitar, which her father figure taught her how to do. Yeah, I remember watching it. When you pursue violence, you lose the things that matter most to you. Except for Abby that gains someone else in the process of taking revenge. Has a friend and has a goal afterwards. Good job. Can we just have a moment of silence for Fat Carol, please? Rip Fat Carol. But it really does bring back to the humiliation aspect, right? Because a satisfying payoff would be for Ellie to defeat Abby and then have her little victory speech. You took everything from me. You did this. You've taken my dirty play. You pay off for the audience as you then boom, blasts Abby in the face or whatever. Golf clubs Abby, I don't know, whatever. That's the thing. I don't know if like Druckmann is thinking of that or he's thinking he made such a good redemption story. That's the thing I'm bothered. You get me? Like, I don't know if he's thinking of a future. The game that was so good that by time you took over Ellie again for the last hour or so that you would be invested in Abby and you'd be like, no, Ellie, don't do it. Abby's so wonderful. She's so great. She's so awesome. No, no, no. She's a fucking cunt. You know, the problem is, right? Like I said this earlier in the first part of the 36 hours stream, I had 34 hours, right, Mahler? Like in the first part of the first third, in the first third, the problem with this whole Ellie forgiving Abby situation is that I don't think Ellie even saw Abby as a person that can be redeemed. Like everything is happening on the player's perspective. Like the player could determine if Abby is worthy of being forgiven, right? That's a big if and I don't think the game did that. But Ellie as the character, didn't see anything redeeming about Abby at all. And when you're fighting against Abby, she's not really like, I'm sorry I killed Joel. Please forgive me. She doesn't do that. She's just, I don't want to fight. It's not, I don't want to fight. I'm sorry I killed your father. It's more like I don't want to fight because I've been hanging on a cross and I can't fight you. I've lost all my games. What's the source of the desire for Ellie to forgive Abby? Oh, that's the thing. Like, this is the most asshole moment. Yeah. The flash, she gets a flashback of Joel sitting on a porch with a guitar. And that's the moment where Ellie decides to forgive Joel or at least try to forgive Joel. 30 seconds after she had a flashback of Joel's smashed up body which made her want to fight her. So it's all stupid. Depending on who you ask, it means different things. Like, one interpretation is Joel wouldn't want you to kill her. It's like, yeah. He would. Yeah, why wouldn't he kill her? Yeah, it would. Like, another one is like, she's only mad, not because Joel died, but because she couldn't forgive him before they'd ran out of time. And so, you know. Well, I'll tell you what, there's an easy answer to this. Why don't we just ask Joel, oh wait, we can't because you clubbed him to death in cold blood. Well, this is where I mean, like, the point I was going with was just, no matter what scenario you come up with in terms of like, what was convincing her in that moment to forgive Abby, about 90% of the player base was just like, eh? Narratively, Abby needed to get the shit beaten out of her. Yeah, that's what happened. No, I think that's also frustrating because that part of the game is not shown on screen. Like, at that point, she's just hanging on the cross and she's like, beaten down. Well, see, I would be pushing back on this if Abby hadn't been so sadistic when she killed Joel. Yeah, like if she had said it before, if she executed him, I'd probably be here right now being like, I mean it can kind of see, but like when you take pleasure in causing pain and call it a stupid old mad when she already knows enough context to know that he did it to save someone and he just saved her life, it's also like your brain just can't handle it. You're like, what is wrong with you? And it's worse than that. When she was beating up Dina and she didn't at that point, she didn't know she was pregnant, right? She took the time to face Dina to Ellie and like she's going to slit her throat in front of Ellie, right? And then Ellie goes, no, she's pregnant. And then what our sympathetic protagonist says at that point is good. Good. Listen, Sargon, in her defense, her dad did save a zebra. Well, that makes everything okay. Exactly. Pregnant zebra, pregnant. I'm watching the game. This is a word that we used to describe The Last of Us 2 is manipulative. And I've never seen a more manipulative piece of media than The Last of Us 2. In terms of trying to really force you to sympathize with the characters that you want to kill slowly, painfully. No, it's worse than that. It's desperately manipulative. Like, I've been replaying scenes. Mani at some point goes, I like you abs. No, I don't think it's desperate. I think they very confidently thought that what they were doing was just really big brain shit. Oh, that's possible. Well, they're the ones who decided to start off with Abby essentially killing Joel and then give themselves the huge you know, is it Herculean or Herculean? Herculean. Herculean. The tough job of trying to make it feel like you needed to sympathize with her after the fact. So I think they thought that they could do it. No. Okay, I'll change it to insultingly manipulative. It is insulting, absolutely. Yeah, like my IQ can just process this shit like, oh, they're trying really hard. I mean, or like Mani at one point says to Abby, I like you abs. Like, shut up Why are you saying I like your abs? No, no, he says to Abby, I like your abs. And your traps and your buys and your tries and your likes. I hate it. The thing about the doctor scene when he's when Abby's like, you know, if it were me, I'd want you to do it. And the fact that he's like, damn it, there's nothing else we could do. You're like, so that was the whole goal with that scene. You're like, what happens before that one? It's like, oh, it's when he saves the zebra. It's like, you know, like what happens in that scene other than that? And it's like, not much really. It's really about him saving. It's a whole set piece of him saving a zebra. That's it. And then that means he has character depth. Well, it's just when you pull it apart and you look at it like as a storyboard set or something like I need to see that time in the boardroom where they're talking about the zebra saving scene. They're like, oh, Neil, can we cut this scene? Do we need it? And he's like, well, people might not think he's a good person. I need to hear that because of how fucking pathetic that scene is. Just to know that scene is actually worse when you think about it more because there is no pressing deadline for them to just get the virus from Ellie's head. Like there is nothing that is hurrying them up, right? Like there is no deadline. The zombie apocalypse has already happened. Why are you in such a fucking rush? Right? Yeah. This is, like I say, it's deliberately insulting. It's deliberately manipulative. And you say, OK, well, what's Neil Druckmann's intention? And you know Neil Druckmann's intention. He's a fucking feminist. He hates things that are normal. And so this is why this whole thing just looks like an attack on the audience itself, which is why, like in the chat, they're like, oh, he's got like two and a half stars on some review site. I'm not surprised. I'm not fucking surprised at all because it looks to me like Neil Druckmann is coming after the way you feel about thing. And that's not his business, is it? Giving himself a hundred brains or something? Oh, because they have to try and rewrite the whole of the one. That's why. Oh, because you feel completely different versus how they attempt to make you feel in this game. So they've got to try and rewrite all your wiring about Joel doesn't work. They've got to try and rewrite how you feel about Ellie doesn't work. And so the whole thing just comes across as so sloppy. Sargon, just to clarify, do you know about the like, are you aware of the fact that they were going to basically this doctor that saved Zebra's in the first game, he was going to basically operate on Ellie's brain, killing her without her consent? No, I didn't. Yeah, they were going to basically in a fatal surgery to try to develop a vaccine for a fungus. Good luck with that, by the way. And they didn't like wake her up to see what she would think about it because she was unconscious when she arrived at the hospital. So it's like, yeah, Joel did nothing wrong and then they then they threw Joel out without his stuff without his weapons. These are the people who are going to altruistically disperse this vaccine throughout the whole of mankind when they developed it. It's a very juvenile understanding of the way the world works to just say, like, oh yeah this vaccine would have just changed everything and saved countless lives. No rags, literally every death that happens after the first game is Joel's fault. Oh my god, why does so many people say so many stupid things? It's just too obvious. Joel's fault. By the way, Sargon, the internet's janitor is actually in the chat for the stream. Oh awesome. Hello me. How's it going? I enjoy your channel. Oh yeah, so are we carrying on with this video then? Yeah, sure, go ahead. Hit that watch together link for anybody who hasn't already. I'm in the last of us too, I mean in the video. He wants to come and defend himself. We haven't even heard his arguments yet. I think we should certainly be open for it. Give him an invite on at some point. I mean, I'm assuming so the video doesn't quite cover the ground he wanted it to, I assume. Well, we'll see I guess. Internet janitors are not instant historians. It's not the argument right here in the video. I'm assuming not. Possibly a holy version. He's confused as everyone else. How can they kill our beloved Joel? I mean, he's on a cover, right? Oh, well, that should have been a dead giveaway that something bad was going to happen early on. But still, I'm very traumatized by this experience. Who could kill our beloved Joel? The man strong enough to do this. Joel's not a beloved character. That's like a defense now. I think we've said this already, but it's not that they killed him. It's the way they killed him. It's the context does not make sense. That's the problem. It's a character established to look both ways before crossing the street. And one day he blindfolds himself and goes and plays in traffic. I think more people would have been surprised if Joel didn't die. I think we kind of saw this coming. That would have been the subversion. Yeah, that would have definitely been the subversion. I think we really kind of saw this coming. But again, it's got to be done with dignity. Makes sense within the context of the story and for the character, et cetera, et cetera. To do this must have been, wait, what? This is your god? A woman? Let me back up a second here. This is going to be the first video game review on the channel, so let's take things a little more seriously. Originally I was going to get my girlfriend to play this game with me. I figured it could be a fun thing for us to do together. When I said we should play The Last of Us 2, I think she heard we should watch This Is Us Season 2. That's a different show where they killed a dad. It was a simple mix up. Anyway, I told her she had to play it or watch me play it. I'm not playing that. I'm not watching you play that. Is that the game where you have to kill dogs? I don't want to play that game. What the hell is wrong with you? You're right, baby. The themes of this game could appear to be possibly traumatic to some players. Explores the deepest disturbing parts of human nature at a time when the nation is already in a horrible crisis. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I do find it funny. Well, his jokes do land though. I do like his videos. He's got decent comedy. He is. Like she's a controller. That's a nice touch. That's kind of cute. Timing seems pretty tight. Yeah, the timing's tight. But I... We know that going into this game, it's trying to talk about themes like vengeance and bad. Yeah, it's not really like a surprise or anything. It's expensive, man. Maybe it's second hand because you shouldn't be doing that. Yeah, I have a second hand. That wasn't $50 funny, so I hope it was second hand. Well, maybe this isn't his footage. Maybe this is just some dude breaking a thing you can find on the panel. It could be his. Maybe he didn't like playing through the game. Maybe he didn't like playing through the game. Maybe he didn't like playing through the game. Maybe he didn't like playing through the game. Maybe he didn't like playing through the game. After Joel's death, I had to take a long, hard look in the mirror. Could I continue on playing this franchise? Could I trust the creators to make things right after they wronged me? I came to the conclusion that no, I could not and things would most likely just get worse from here. Which is exactly why I bought this game. You're showing the clip where she's like good. I'm about to slit the throat of a pregnant woman so you'll have these girls first. She's so sadistic at that scene. She's so sadistic at that scene. You see it, right? She looks at Ellie, then decides to face Dina in front of her. It's so sadistic. Dina's protecting Ellie, and then she gets hit by an arrow and then she beats her head into the ground and then pulls the knife. It's like, wow, Abby. Our sympathetic female character, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, the nuanced character, guys. She likes to kill the babies, leave her alone. Everyone's allowed their own opinions. That is just awful. That is really awful. Standat is the same version of FIFA every year. I swear, man, some of these YouTubers are fake outrage for views. It's got to be mentally exhausting. This game got so much hate that I mistakenly thought I was out a few months ago based on... Yeah, there's no legitimate reason to be pissed at this game. Absolutely none whatsoever. You're just feigning outrage. It's the whole throw and everyone into one big pile and it's just... You over-generalize and, yeah, sure, everything can be a hive mind, but you got to have evidence for it. Try to play the devil's advocate at least to a decent degree. You got to know that there are counterarguments out there to this type of stuff. People have reasons for why they hate this. Can we just throw the reverse? Oh my God, there are so many hardcore defenders that are doing it for the clicks. Look at me. I'll throw a defense in for a game that rarely gets it. Also, why don't they just review the game? Do you feel me, guys? Why do they have to put in other YouTubers into the video? Does that make sense? They seem to be broad generalizations and strawmen about what other people are instead of let me know about what the game is. It's also the base element of trying to lower the people to raise yourself, which normally says you got a weak argument if you got to try and do that shit all the time. I find it interesting as he doesn't name names. Name those names. Don't give me these random generalizations, dude. Tell me who the fuck you're talking about. Then I can analyze your own statements. That's mean. But if I have at least some indication about who he's talking about, I can evaluate their work and be like, because there probably are a bunch of YouTubers who are like fake angry about stuff for the clicks. So give me some examples. I mean, he showed a montage and he had angry Joe inside of there, so it's like, is that one of them? The funniest thing is that I think angry Joe's rage is legit. He played the first game years ago. He loved it. He was attached to Joel and Ellie and he loved this franchise. A lot of people were. Maybe that's not the guy he was referring to. The names later, I don't know. Yeah, I guess we'll see. I'm going to have a bet that he doesn't. We shall see. People hated it. Then it turned out it was just leaks. My only thought was, wow, I bet those don't do any kind of justice to the real story. But that doesn't matter. This is another argument that people pull all the time. It's just like people made up their minds because they saw the leaks. They saw the leaks and they're like, you know what, I hate this game. I mostly stand by the leaks were better than the season 8 of Game of Thrones result. The leaks when you read them, it was like, okay, that's bad. That's really bad, but it's done. And then you watch it in context and you're like, oh my god. It's somehow much, much worse. And of course we won't be accounting for that demographic. We'll only be accounting for the one that read the leaks and would have enjoyed the game more had they not read the leaks. But the argument would hold up if the sales were really poor. At least it would have some credence. But the sales were massive and so people were clearly not put off by the leaks and wanted to experience it for themselves. No, it's disgustingly massive. Like 2.8 digital sales. Goddamn. Like, I hate it. If some guy on YouTube says it's time to be outraged, the internet mob grabs their pitchforks. What do you mean? Yeah, because it is one. Yeah, fuck me. It's the fucking community, I guess. I don't know. Well, I mean, if he's giving an accurate representation of the game and he's a very big game reviewer and people listen to him talk about the game and the game is shit, then yeah? So that's what's gonna happen. It's like, move on, get to the part where you can either attack or defend whatever the subject is instead of just being like, you know what? You're doing it for clicks. Just because someone told you to hate it. Okay. This video is coming across more contrarian than any fake outrage. What does this mean? I don't see why you can't then you agree with it. Why can't you just throw the exact same criticism back? You're like, you're... You can't. You're doing this, you're doing the counter counter. You'll be like, oh, I see all of you getting angry. I'm gonna be the one to get the clicks on the counter to the angry. You can just reverse the logic. There's nothing wrong there. Although internet mobs don't actually look like this, they look like this and this. But when the game came out it's an internet mob. It's an internet mob, yeah. Hey, Jeremy. Jeremy's here, guys. Jeremy finally made it to eFap 100. Yeah. And this. But when the game came out massive failure of storytelling massive failure in storytelling. A terrible storytelling. Where's the lie? How's he wrong? He's repeating. Yeah, he's right. This story is garbage. There's a punchline to this montage. Failure of storytelling. Failure in... He hasn't played it, has he? It's not yet. Nope. No, I mean he hasn't. That's my guess. Jeremy hasn't played the game. Oh, oh. He hasn't either, but I've watched him play it. I was going to say that doesn't disqualify the potential still. Yeah. You could watch the cutscenes. Well, I watched all of Muller's playthrough. Oh, but that means your opinion of the game is it's valid. I'm not playing the game. I have to play it. I watched all of the content. Well, yeah, that's all you need to do. If you watch all of the content, then you know all you need to know about the story. I think we discussed this before, but the only thing we weren't on would be, like, game feel. Game play. I played it when Drink Rats me, because I appreciated that I have to feel, I have to get the feeling of the game, the feeling of actually playing it as opposed to just watching it. This is one of those things you see people do the whole, oh, like, take what happened with Jeremy saying about the story being terrible, and he's highlighting, oh, he said he's not playing the game, because why would you see dollars for this shit? And he says, I've watched all the content on it. All right, like me, I haven't played the game, haven't paid for it. I watched an entire play through of it that someone else did. I am totally qualified to talk about the story of this game without playing it. Kind of a small brain maneuver to say that that's contradictory. I mean, you've basically experienced just as much of the story as Mahler has. You just don't have the same hands-on experience with the game. Yeah, I'm not going to comment on the aspects of mechanics and stuff. But you could. Well, yeah, it depends on what they are. Yeah. Like if I see a mechanic being implemented poorly or inconsistently, then that's one thing. You can comment on the AI, for example. Yeah, absolutely. The AI is it is Galaxy Brain AI. Special AI. Super. You've got a point. You don't want to comment on the handling of the game, the feel of the controls and stuff. You haven't directly played it. But if you're talking about the story, you don't perfectly qualify for the judge as anyone else. It did seem that he was very specifically talking about the story. Yeah. I mean, that was what was being highlighted over and over. We watch films. Yeah. We don't play films. We watch films and we're perfectly qualified to discuss the story in the film. Even though we didn't get into the cockpit of the X-Wing and blow up the Death Star. Maybe use it to change context. Hey, I know exactly what it feels like. I will have you know. Because I watched the movie. Ay-ay-ay. Fuck me. Yeah. This guy wants everyone to know that as a film student he can assure us that the game is bad. This guy agrees with them as credentials are he owns over 2600 movies. This person said the last of us two was a horrid mess. The movie gets to the actual argument soon. No. Guys, this is worse. We could also do the same argument against him. You're just some random guy on YouTube. Why should we listen to you? Does that make sense? More importantly, in what way are these not valid criteria for being a judge of movies and storytelling? Being a film student, having a massive film library. If you're going to be an expert or you're going to have a pretty legit qualification, I think. They're making me more likely to listen to you. The arguments stand on their own, but it does make me more interested, I suppose, to hear what you have to say. Even though I think a film basically means I'm up for hearing the arguments even from someone who's never seen a film before. Let's tackle these arguments. The pseudo deep messaging only a person with an inflated ego about themselves with Thing is amazing and characters were an awful representation. Where's the line? They have to release the line. Incredible and brilliant. You've got to use the same argument on those people as well, surely. But because it's one way, because it's negative, suddenly that demonizes it. Can he just get to his arguments, please? His arguments are basically his people read the leaks. No, no, no. All he's doing is priming the audience. Look at all these guys who are talking about this game. You can find the reverse all over the place. Yeah, exactly. You can do the reverse. It's disingenuous. Is that a proper word? Yeah, yes. Disingenuous, yes. So tweet it out, Joel are better. We all deserve better. Fuck you, Neil. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that. The game seems almost like it was designed to just take a shit on the things that you like. People definitely got upset by it. Not a surprise. We know the guy who made it, and that seems to be a reasonable inference, because he seems like a prick. So, you know, the person in charge making a story can shit all over it, and that's okay. But if we're upset that he did it, we're bad? I don't feel bad. This is the guy that put himself in the game as a collectible card, and his IQ is like 10 over 10? When his tweet was sent out, this game had not even been released for 15 hours. It's a 25 hour long game. Is it wrong? Well, just tell me if it's wrong. No, that's what he's saying is that you have to experience the whole 25 hours to even make a reasonable statement about the game. I think that's what he's saying. 15 hours, that means they've consumed the scene. Does that argument still apply to having to watch at least three hours of a live stream on Jane Nicholson's Joker review before you can come to a conclusion about that live stream? Oh no. Oh my goodness. How dare you? How dare I by asking people to be consistent? Oh my god. How dare you? I'm asking a lot. Calm down. I used to be a janitor at a university, and sometimes I try to complete the math equations whenever one was gone. Now I'm no Ivy League mathematician, but I'm pretty sure those numbers don't add up. I'm sure everyone else that's raging about this game and threatening the lives of the- You don't have to complete the whole fucking game to complain about it. Oh, we did a thing. Oh, some certain crazy people out of millions who bought the game. Everyone agreed. Everyone rallied behind her and was like, Yeah. One guy or some people out of millions and millions who bought the game, they said some mean things to a voice actor. So we gotta fucking put this in our video, guys. It's very important that you guys know this. This is gonna become a trope. Like, this just gets thrown in all the time. A voice actress or an actress or an actor, whatever. People said mean things to them. You're like, alright, that's bad. Fucking annoying. It's just like a bonus to make the anti-side look worse. This is on your team, right? And it's like, do we go over in part one or part two of the stream where it was one of the people who shat on Laura Bailey was someone who was actually pro last of us two? I think that was the first. I think that was the Jim Sterling one. I think so, yeah. This is the thing. Everybody condemns this shit. Just find me the person who says absolutely we need to harass the voice actress for her choices to voice act this character. What the fuck are you talking about? We have many millions of people who bought the game and I don't even know how many more who know about the story because you sure as hell don't have to play the story to get everything you need from it. It's just law of averages that in that group of millions and millions of people there will be a couple shitheads. What do you want me to do? They come from all sides. Why are we responsible for something someone else has said? It's just trying to prime you against an audience. I wouldn't want to claim that's the goal. You don't like the game and therefore you have a commonality with them Ergo, you must feel exactly the same way as them. If I didn't send a fucking tweet, if I didn't harass anyone, don't bring it up. Go talk to that person about it. It's not my business, not my problem. This group of people who don't like the game, they're highlighting the worst of the millions and millions and millions, the couple people who did this. I wanted to clarify as well. When I was playing the game, after the Joel scene I think that's when my brain started getting pissed and I started thinking about how everything came together and started criticizing it. This notion that you have to complete the game before you can be disappointed with the game, I just wanted to throw that as being stupid. You can be fucking annoyed. How long does it take to be annoyed at TLJ? How long does it take to finish the film to be fucking pissed at TLJ? The mom joke. The thing is, I don't even need to take a bite of a shit sandwich to know I'm not going to like a shit sandwich. I can infer these things through my own experience as a rational actor who has had experience in the world. If I know certain things about a product then I can already establish whether I'm going to enjoy that or not. I don't have to literally consume the entire thing before I can make a judgement. So we got a meal that's pristine created by the greatest chefs of all time but there's also a little turd in there. You eat the turd and you're like, so this is turd. And they go, yeah but you haven't tried the rest. They're like, no I'm commenting on the turd. This is turd. Maybe you'll find the turd better if you eat the potatoes. No? You haven't even finished the meal. I didn't even try to solve it. How dare you. The voice actors actually played the game though. We can just give them all the benefit of the doubt. There's not just a few instances of this. I've been up day and night clitting this word, vomit up. So I did something that a lot of YouTubers and Twitter users told me not to do or wouldn't do themselves. I played the game. This isn't just a review about playing The Last of Us 2. This is a review about one. Very brave of you. People are welcome to recommend or not recommend a game. I don't see what relevance that even has. Yeah, go for it. It's like the play The Last of Us 2 when you live in a country that is falling apart. Can you just put that whole sentence together please? After hearing non-stop this game is just a woker event story. Is he inferring America is just falling apart? Yeah, I think he said that. I suppose it depends on your definition. How broad are you on the riots? Literally, you guys are coming really close to a civil war. Nah. You are. I'm certain. You are. It's really bad. I'm British, so I'm not. What happens in America ends up coming to the end. It's a different crisis here. Well, I'm ready. They want to come fucking around with shit around here. No. People don't do this shit in Arkansas. They go to Portland in places. Doggo, take down the gun. The police don't do anything and there's no guns and stuff. Doggo with a gun. Calm down, rags. I wasn't even me. That's no one else. Rags, take the whiskey. Stop drinking whiskey. Put the pistol away. It's an AR-15. It's not a pistol. I'm not civil war bitch. Oh my bad. It's an AR-15. Sorry. It's my bad for assuming that you have a pistol. Firearms gender. So I'm going to tell you what, it's going to be no civil war because you got these Antifa writers that are saying to themselves we need to be paid for writing. These people get any hard shit. They're going home. We're not going to make it across the ocean. You guys are going home. Well, I hope you're right. Are we doing bigot sandwich? Oh, bigot sandwich. This was my favorite thing. Non-stop, this game is just a woke revenge story. My expectations were so low going into this game. I thought the story that was happening was the guy that called Elias Slurr poisoned her sandwich. I thought the whole game was going to be about a poisoned sandwich. I would have preferred that. That would have been a way better story. Who's the bartender guy? What's his name? If you don't know, Seth calls Dina What's this? A dike. A loudmouth dike, which I just say is redundant. Just say dike. He's very very... He said he was drinking and he goes to her later and says I'm super sorry. I didn't mean to say that. It was my bad. In order to make this up to you and to go on this dangerous journey, I made you these steak sandwiches. Steak sandwiches. A very valuable commodity in the post-apocalypse is cow meat, I would imagine. That's valuable now. He gives this to her. He says I'm sorry. Take these. They're very valuable. I hope you come back safe and sound. I hope none of that happens to you. She just doesn't take them. She calls them bigot sandwiches. I'm like man, Seth just can't get a break. I think the next game should be about Seth going on a quest for revenge against Ellie. He was flipping out. We're not accepting his apology, and I think that the game should be titled The Last of Us Part 3, Revenge of the Seth. Well, there we go. Sargon, it's worse. Because you see Seth calling her that word like 20 hours into the game. At that point, Ellie and Abby have killed so many people. Him calling them a loudmouth dyke is fucking cute. It's quaint. It's nothing. It's the middle of a zombie apocalypse, isn't it? It's like the end of the world, and she's like, oh my god, he's a bigger. Oh, bitch, come on, we're dying out here. Like, fuck's sake. I want the scene where Seth has a hallucination of his dead father and through that hallucination Seth forgives himself. Dude, I want Seth to just hallucinate the savage. It's just floating. The savage says, you know what, I was too good for her anyway. Well, Seth goes to bed drunk, and he has a dream about his father saying there's only two kinds of people here. Stayos and queers. You're surprised that lesbian wouldn't put your mate in her mouth. People are mostly hoping for a sort of a DLC with the trio, the Joel, Factoril and Seth, some sort of adventure there. Maybe they can go and cure everything for everybody and get all of the things. The sum of us. Tommy Factoril and Seth. Robo Joel as well. Resurrection. Yeah, Robo Joel as well. Yeah, fair enough. Is that the plot of the game? That's the plot of the game? He poisoned the sandwiches and he killed that guy. The whole game is about poisoned sandwiches. Look at this baby move. Holy crap. That looks like a real freakin' baby. Alright, that was cool. Make the baby do the trick again. I said make that baby do that trick. He dragged it out, dude. It's over. Alright. Hey, let him have his joke. How dare you? He's having fun. Yeah, yeah. There's a joke and no one laughs Have you heard of Wayfair Cabinets? If a joke falls over in a f-word. Yeah, yeah. Then we'll get the whole Wayfair Cabinets. I'll try to get the end of this. It takes a while to get there, but that's kind of it. I give it seven thumbs. I'm not saying if they're up or down. Seven thumbs. Graduate Naughty Dog and release in a game where there was more outrage over the size of a woman's biceps than their mistreatment of them. Is there anything? I don't know. I heard a lot about the crunch time of shit. Yeah. Guys, guys, guys. I'll do it. I'll be outraged about the size of a biceps. I'll do it. I'll fall on the grenade here. I think that it's just not as average as most women are. I'm sorry. I'm outraged. Well, I never say it's likely from March 15th. Yeah, it's slightly more muscular than the average woman. And that's it. I'm out. The reason why it's even more ridiculous is every flashback with Abby she has a normal body and then when it goes to current day, suddenly she's super modern. Super-sized Abby. So we don't understand. There's no story to explain. You can't just say her dad died so she decided to put on some muscle. I would have preferred that. They didn't even do that. This is what I mean. It was like she clearly did it to get revenge on Joel thanks to her dad's death. Why didn't you put that in the game? Why wasn't there a scene? There's evidence against that. Wouldn't you want to be quicker? Wouldn't you want to be lighter? You're getting zombies that are charging at you. You don't want to be weighed down by muscle mass. Muscle mass actually makes you quicker. Well, you can be lean and have muscle and not be bulky and have muscle. I mean, you'd have to be really absurdly bulky for your muscles to be slowing you down. I think the idea here is it's not one of those huge issues. The game fails in a variety of ways that have nothing to do with Abby's ginormous size. It's the idea that in this setting I vowed I would be outraged by her muscles. I'm not stopping you. Oh, I ain't stopping you. From the few pieces of information I'd gathered while I was trying to stay in secrecy mode where Naughty Dog did meany things to their work as Joel Dead. I knew Joel Dead. Joel Dead was everywhere. And Abby's... I don't remember if Abby's arms came close to those two. Those two are just the things to be remembered. It's just a weird thing to do when she's been normal in every cut scene and then something she's seen precisely. It's just a weird why. And there's no explanation. And so I think it's valid to ask why. And when we look at this article it is from March 15th of 2020. So a fair amount of time has passed between this article and the conditions at Naughty Dog and the release of the game and the time difference there in between. But also the way that sympathy and empathy work is generally it's not the magnitude, it's the proximity. Which is why you're very, very, very sad if your mother dies but you don't really give a shit that 100 people were killed in a landslide in Bali. Also I want to highlight, this wouldn't be necessarily highlighting that people are more outraged over freaking arms than this. You could just be highlighting the fairness of this problem. Like they haven't been alluded to it. We would have to be assuming that they were both equally aware of these two things. And some people just might not have even gotten them. I mean one YouTuber makes a video about the incredible size of Abbey and hundreds of thousands of people could hear about it through YouTube and the way it spreads. But if one YouTuber didn't make a video about the work conditions at Naughty Dog that you wouldn't have even ever known it's not that they necessarily didn't care it's that they didn't even know to care and that's not their fault because they weren't told. Employees. Probably one of the most innovative and exciting features that Naughty Dog added was a dedicated jump button. Something called jumping. Another great thing about this game is Ellie's a lot more intelligent. Funny. Yeah it was funny. Yeah. Jump button. And ruthless. Of course when Joel was captured she was supposed to be doing patrol so the only person who could have saved Joel in time was Ellie. Who was on crack! Just like the originals, levels have a flow-like state to them. Anyone who says they got lost while playing this game is thinking too hard about it. The entrance to the next location isn't in some secret underground. You would think that thinking too hard would help you get through faster. That was insane. That's a weird one. But alright. That's odd. That's an uneven one. I have an notoriously horrible sense of direction. My thing is to ignore all logic and just follow my gut and keep bulldozing forward. That's how I drive on the highway and that's how you're supposed to play this game. That's also how Ryan Johnson writes the scripts. That's how you play games. You just run and hope. I don't think that's a compliment to the design honestly. Yeah I don't know. The thing is when you're in a scenario where you're in a city and then normally in real life it should be intuitive where to go because you have signs and you know how buildings work and you know stairs and elevator shafts and things. This is this familiar territory unless you have buildings as family members that's all good then. But this should be familiar territory that you can use to navigate the terrain. Ideally in game design if you have these kinds of maps just intuition because of your experiences with buildings. Internet historian didn't think about it and he got stuck. How do you explain that? Checkmate. Case closed. Just guess which way is forward and go that way and you're probably going the right way. The funny thing is the way I play I need to know which way is the way to avoid it so I can actually search all the things I want to search and then I accidentally fall in a cutscene and I want to kill myself. When you're searching right the game tells you where to go. It's like an idiot who's looking in cupboards the ways over there and you're like is it the paper clip? It's like do you need help? You're like no I'm really not. Exploring. If you're trying to explore it keep saying click this button to show where you go. I'm just looking for shit leave me alone. Is it part of playing and enjoying the game exploring around and seeing what you find? Apparently. I would imagine you could change it off at least there would be that. I don't know if that is a thing. I would assume it is. That area where there's like targets in the backyard for you to shoot with a bow and arrow you go through like a broken door and a zombie attacks you and then just a few planks fall over and suddenly you're blocked from going back in to check for any resources that you might have missed. It's just a few planks. Just push them down. No. The thing is the designers could have made even or something so it was like rubble that you couldn't get by or whatever but no a couple of planks and fuck you. Even then I get annoyed with that shit. The red door is probably one of the worst ones. It just locks and you can't get back. Like okay I guess that's done then. Yeah I think I mentioned it while we were discussing it earlier. I might have just been talking to you after I was watching your stream. If you're in an urban environment like this and there's a million ways to go a million ways and you see these tiny little obstacles that you know you could just jump over or I could just move this plank over to get through it is annoying when you see kind of lazily created and thought out pathing designs in these games. I should be able to get through there. Yeah. Use my aim. One of my more well known videos Top 7 Dumb Disney Star Wars Moments. I made that just because I was so upset about the last Jedi. I thought it was a soulless piece of woke garbage and rumor has it even George Lucas himself agrees with me on that. Oh well they attacked Kelly Trun so you're part of the problem aren't you? I have a feeling he's being ironic here. A lot of people are comparing this game to the last Jedi. The last of us part 2 sounds like it should have been called the last Jedi. Very fitting comparison. Yeah I think it's fitting. They're very similar. The reasons people are upset are very similar to one another. The characters of a woke twat who are like I'm going to ruin the characters in the franchise you love on purpose. Yeah no wonder they got the comparison. Is this guy walking to math classrooms across America and he's like people are comparing 2 plus 2 plus 4 to 1 plus 1 equals 2 and they're saying it's like the other thing but it's just one more dialogue. For clarification right. Damage to Will building plotline that's absolute bonkers nonsense none of it makes any sense. Assassination of legacy characters in the way shape or form. They're going to compare it. But also deliberately twisting the motivations and characters of the actual character of important characters that are beloved. This is not accidental that they're doing this. And then dismiss all of the people that are criticizing it. Misogynistic. Honestly it's kind of weird. It's almost like it was tailor made for comparison. It's all the same beats it's kind of weird how they all of our arguments change right because they have to alter with the facts of the fucking case if you put it that way like we have to go into the actual game and be like okay we can't just say you know what's wrong with the last of us too Luke drank Greek milk like no details have to all be redone. But the responses are mostly the same. You hate ex people you're like oh okay. Yeah you're not doing something clever by recognizing a very fair comparison that a lot of people are noticing you know giving an opinion on the last Jedi all over again. I understand why I titled this video the last Jedi of video. Yeah so many cameos. Oh boy. Oh is this game a woke piece of trash that purposely alienates the fans with virtue signaling and an endlessly dumb plot that leads nowhere and makes the entire franchise feel dead. I mean yes is the lie as they say. Yeah. Can you give us some arguments? Oh it's not. Bad take. Very bad take. I feel like this is the beginning of the video now he's like he's taking his stance now he's going to explain it. Here we go. Now I'm going to go on record and state these are just my opinions and you're free to have your own. Thank you. Hey shields up. Everyone say it too this is just our opinion. Everything I say is an opinion so please no bully. You're an incel if you hate this game but that's just my opinion. You're free to agree with my opinion. It's my opinion. I'll be right back. Wow. I'm in the comments. I'm not even going to ask you to keep it civil. You can be as horrible and all. Yeah don't be nice. I stay to him though. Just take your opinion. He actually seems like he's a pretty good sport from the messages I've been exchanging with him. He wants to come on after we finish this. So I think that you know he deserves some leniency there. To me and each other. Don't forget to smash that dislike button. I've been watching this guy since he had like 10,000 subs and I really quite like his channel even if I don't necessarily agree with his takes right. So it's it you know there's no personal animus in my opinion behind any of it. Wait is it rags you. I think he had to go pee. That was the one that I called fry a tuck. I know. We should we should wait for rags then. Rags. Yeah honestly it's like I don't want to have him feel like we're all going to be ganging up on him and like acting all hostile towards him. However if like he's going to insult the people that he that disagree with him in this video it's like you kind of threw the first shot. I mean if he's down for that sort of thing. I mean if he's down for that sort of thing. Yeah I mean if he's down for some good old fashion trash talking I mean we can give as we receive. So this is interesting should we get some elevator music going? No. The funny thing about this chat and everyone else Sargon also like this is one of the people that are as strong as Ellie or even stronger and on her side of the team like her the Washington Liberation Front he's the only one that looks like her like ripped. Literally nobody stronger than Ellie in the universe. Rags this is the one I was saying looks like Friatuck or at least kind of Friatuck It's a girl. You can look like Friatuck and be a girl what the hell you sexist. Oh my bad. My question is that you can buy the Friatuck outfit as a woman and wear it. I do have to say it's a little weird that these seraphite brutes don't get nearly as much attention about like realism as Abby does. I think that they took it just as much. Yeah I thought they were hilarious. That was even weirder from the Adams family. It's um you can I remember this in my playthrough the first one you meet I just started laughing because I was just like video game, double health bar to be a retarded fat person that takes loads of damage because that's how it works. Like literally Uncharted 3 had these types of enemies too. Loads of them. It's just... No I'm just saying that this person reminds me of Lurch. Lurch at the adjacent. Yeah. It's a compliment. Point I'm trying to make is I never claim to be an expert in anything. I'm just a janitor. But the thing about the janitors of the world is we get to give you the everyday man's opinion. We all know what the angry YouTubers are saying. You have your smart YouTubers. Wait so the angry YouTubers aren't everyday people? The angry YouTubers aren't smart just because you're angry doesn't mean that you don't have an intelligent take on people. If you want to categorize smart, angry and everyday I'm just wondering what the cross section is like. Well there's clearly a bar to entry to being a YouTuber. I'm joking there's not. I was going to say what the fuck. Yeah yeah yeah obviously there's not. Which explains so much about YouTube really doesn't it? Yes. You're joking. I love how the dumb guy explanation is going to come from someone that likes the game and explains everything. Hey, well has he made any comments that put himself above people yet because it could be 4D he's like yeah I'm dumb but all of you are even stupider. I mean it's almost true. That's very possible. I'm almost halfway through this video and I'm really curious to see you know it feels like a disclaimer right now. It doesn't feel like he's making any arguments or building a point. This is it. We finally made it. This is the actual part of the video That was the preview. That was the journey. Everything has come to this point. So I figured the dumbest way I could break down this review was to explain it in Star Wars terms. I thought that was fitting because the people that act like they're too smart for Star Wars are the same people that think they're too smart for this game. So generally the Hold up hold up hold up Generally the people who are considered super smart galaxy big brain they're not the people who hated the last guy. Like I gotta be honest the ones who are like you don't understand the messaging in TLJ you don't understand what this game How many times have we heard If you wanted to kill Abbey you didn't get the point of the game. You're just too stupid to understand the themes. This is a brains 100 game for brains 100 gamers like myself. It seems to me that the big brains are the ones who are writing Star Wars and trying to subvert our expectations and make us hate things like it seems that that's what it seems to me. I mean Neil Druckman's got that 100 brain IQ card whatever that is. I feel like the evidence is bound to good. I mean I mean Druckman says that he's brains 100 but really he's IQ 100. So he's average. Exactly. That's Lee mediocre. Wow racist. I mean he's brain jolted Luke. In Star Wars, Luke is almost the murder of his nephew and the foundation of his character is backpedaled so far that the franchise starts to completely fall apart. No that wasn't Lee that's fake Skye that's fake. So formatting here we're gonna talk about how the Last of Us 2 is strong by comparing it to the last Jedi I assume Interesting. I dare not assume at this point. I thought we were just gonna talk about what's strong about it as opposed to like this was bad Last of Us 2. It's fine. Formats. You're ugly. You're disgusting. I'm gonna kill you. Give me $200. The sequence of events gets more confusing the more Disney tries to explain it. This is the big event that sets everything into motion because it was badly written. I like that he is at least like based enough to understand that the last Jedi is shit. So when he said this is the big event that sets everything in motion I'd be like oh you mean like Joel's death sets everything in motion for the whole game unless the big event that sets the sequel in motion was Palpatine not dying because he controls everything along the way even Snoke. Kylo who controls the first order Moller I'd be interested if he actually realizes the narrative problems that Joel's death has as opposed to him acknowledging the narrative problems that they did to Luke. I think that would be interesting. We'll see. There's no question now behind every character's actions makes zero sense. In the last of us two Joel mistakes saving someone's life with being able to trust them who what Joel mistakes saving someone's life for being able to what trust them if you save someone's life you should instantly trust them is that what he's saying he's saying that Joel mistakes saving someone's life for being able to trust them does he do that? With Abby he thinks that she owes her therefore he can trust her because she's in his debt. I already don't believe Joel would do that so we're out. So we have the situation in the first game Sargon where Ellie is having to fend for herself in the snowy wilderness she runs into a stranger stranger is from a camp that has medicine she needs to get medicine for Joel because Joel's injured stranger's friend runs off to get the medicine and then while they're alone together the zombies come and they have to fight off this horde together that stranger later turns out to be the leader of a camp of cannibals who Joel and Ellie killed a ton of like three weeks before so there's this whole experience where Ellie fights off a bunch of zombies with a stranger and they see each other's lives constantly but then it turns out afterwards that oh he actually has a vendetta against her and Joel and yet same exact situation occurs in the second game and they haven't learned from Ellie's experience from the first game. I'll pretend to be the defense argument you can continue being the prosecutor so yeah but Joel has been calmed down by a nice and comfy land that is Jackson he's happy there he's trusting people he's a soft stupid old man you're on it to defend your he insists Ellie to keep on wearing a gas mask so that if they run into a stranger that doesn't know about her immunity they don't freak out and try killing her because she's been breathing in spores that's non-immune people so you're telling me that there isn't a part in the game where one of Ellie's friends goes up to her and tells her that Joel has been harassing him about making sure that Ellie is going on the right patrols that are going to be less dangerous he's not, he doesn't have any signs of being cautious at all in this four years since the first game he's been a big old sock boy right? So you're on it, I'd like to prosecute my client and add to the argument Prosecution, what you're telling me is that the character is more defensive than ever and more aware of danger is that correct? Not to mention the opening being that they're getting back from a patrol where they've killed people to the previous days and then also you add on that if you're going to argue to me that he's soft now because he's got so many people he cares about in a nice happy place you mistake that, he would be harder he would be even more on edge no in the intro of the first game in the intro of the first game that's even before the post apocalypse happened we're talking about after the first game and him softening up and I have another objection well I just wanted to say I'll just add some evidence like even before the apocalypse Joe was kind of super protective to the people he loves right? and that just strengthens the fact that now that he has someone to protect a community to protect he'd be even more defensive furthermore first game establishes that bandits and hunters attack Jackson and the second game right after Joel dies Tommy says in order to do this smart in order to have the people that we would need to do this smart we would be leaving Jackson vulnerable to infected and hunters meaning oh they're still dealing with untrustworthy humans attacking their settlement so why is Joel suddenly trusting these armed strangers that are squatting in this little lodge a few miles away from their settlement while wearing uniforms and got good patches on them as well and he surrenders his weapons too he goes in there and takes his backpack off he doesn't have any weapons on him and just stands in the middle of the room and so what seems like a very small moment where Joel just trusts someone a little too much because he's you know he's saved their life and just like no no no not gonna happen and even guys I have a question would Joel even go oh he's surrounded fuck her let's run Tommy well that's like if we're right in that fuck it let's pretend we're in the universe with them we see this girl and this is happening to it and Joel is with us and he's like ah fuck let's help her we would still all be like who are you would you come from Joel really I'm coming out here I would half expect them to have code names just for this shit and I would say this a justifiable way for Abby to get Joel's name is just Joel gets grabbed by a few clickers Tommy yells Joel no because anyone would probably yell out their siblings name if they think they're gonna have their throat ripped out and that's how Abby finds out simple saving a young girl's life is something that is familiar to Joel as he progressed through the game um saving a young girl's life is familiar to Joel okay Joel protected Ellie onto Abby yeah that's the that would be the we project his daughter onto every young girl he sees that would be the defense lawyers case as opposed the game is explained through time jumps why Joel's acting passively compared to the first game oh this scene makes me upset this scene fucking kills Joel's character so much this scene is terrible don't show the scene this scene's a bad one something called subtle character growth or subtle character this is not subtlety flashbacks this show and skipped over the character development this is what we call blatant character assassination the kind of character development that you would see from the CW or as gamers like bad fan fiction yeah I mean a lot of people call it where's the live fan fiction at this point I do try and catch myself from saying like most fan fiction wouldn't kill Joel like that that's just not most fan fiction wouldn't sever their relationship yeah this is like anti fan fiction this is like deconstructionist fan fiction this is like bad fan fiction but I agree it's more anti fan fiction yeah like there's an IP even though at the end of the first game it was left ambiguous and it was left ambiguous to the point where we all I think the vast majority of us appreciated that Ellie probably knew what went on and just chose not to say anything because of their relationship which they form so to suddenly wreck on all that back anyway in this didn't make a heap of sense it's a major wreck and they wanted to go they decided of all the things that could be going on we can't let that pesky facts of the past get in the way or whatever you want to tell of the five major interpretations of what's going on in Ellie's head they went with the least likely from my perspective the one where she's a dumbass and she's like okay Joel you are telling the truth and it goes home you lied to me I'm sad young girls life is something that is familiar to Joel as he progressed through the game as he was acting passively compared to the first game Joel's going through the different person yeah that's why he's acting differently I don't know if the time jumps explain it so much as just show him being passive also right they space out our disappointment in this new Joel that they're creating this is what I mean I feel like if I were writing this and she starts to call him out he might even get irrationally angry because he's dealing with someone telling him what he did was wrong when he thinks it's absolutely the correct decision so he should be like passionate about this listen here you little shit they were going to treat you like a slab of meat they were going to instantly cut you up and listen you know how much you mean to me in that farmhouse when you ran away from from the hydroelectric dam you begged me to stay with you I was going to just give you off to Tommy so you could hand you to the fireflies and you said that everyone that has that she's ever cared about or has ever cared about you has left you or died except for me so I went ahead and I gave you unconditional love and this is how you're treating me now bullshit this scene is actually so frustrating that where Ellie goes explain to me and Joel doesn't really explain anything it just takes it by the way he just says if they were going to kill you for the cure that's it, not the fact that they were ready to knock him out when he was trying to resuscitate her not the fact that they were leaving him in the woods to die basically because they got his equipment none of that they did not know that Ellie would have to die in fact right after the scene with the drafts, Ellie says when we're done with this, when the fireflies get what they need from me, I'll go wherever you want me to go I noticed something very frustrating also in the first game when you compare Ellie to the second game in relation to her sacrifice in the first game Ellie's emphasis is on the lives that were lost she didn't want their deaths to mean nothing but in the second game, Ellie goes I wanted my death to matter it becomes so selfish this scene, she was like crying and how he took my death my life would have fucking mattered how dare you and the easiest answer is your life matters baby girl cause you're like my daughter your life matters to me it matters to Tommy, it matters to Jesse it matters to Dina and it's so stupid and it's so stupid that Joel doesn't even say that well he just has a pouty face he's just pouty pouty this isn't Joel, this isn't Joel that's the point isn't it this Joel isn't the Joel from the first game this Joel is the Joel that Cochman needed to get his story out this is why people are angry because it doesn't make sense it's not the same character we can't relate to these characters at all because they don't act the way that we know we would the chat is saying you didn't save my life you ruined my death it's like it's like an emo kid what I was going to say by the way what would have happened if she went into the hospital she looked around and there were just no recordings and no records what did you find she goes to nothing good thing that the fireflies just left their recordings there shitty game something called subtle character growth or as gamers like to call it bad fan fiction sorry we're just giving out bad bad fan fiction I don't quite follow here because this scene really destroys Joel again like bad fan fiction is Luke Skywalker does triple flip while spinning all of his lightsabers around and destroys every single AT-AT you're like yeah that is that sounds cool though what did you say about smaller bad fan fiction what okay fine he's a lightsaber death star fire's lightsaber death star oh yeah that's even cool alright it's bad fan fiction Joel's attempting to mend a broken relationship with Ellie after he tells her the truth about what happened no he didn't he didn't tell her the truth he uses examples of well respected people to try and use it against the argument it's like no they say well respected people that are saying it in this way and you're saying oh because they're well respected we shouldn't listen to them no and the funny thing about the angry joe kids breaking down the last of us too they're actually really well argued that's certainly for the time of release yeah the guy that says it's bad fan fiction he's actually like the MVP MVP of that discussion andejo andejo he's feeling very vulnerable and unneeded for the first time in a long time helping Abby gives joe a sense of self-worth again wait stop by this point Ellie has said that she doesn't know if she can forgive him which is a terrible line but then she says but I would like to try this is the day after that he doesn't need a new purpose fuck off repairing his relationship with Ellie at this point where is he getting this also this is a bit of a jump over Kaz when he's reaching definitely inferring a lot there like at best you can say he's just trying to save this person's life and to then say he's projecting Ellie into this new character I don't see that not a bad idea but they didn't do that also yeah chronologically it doesn't make sense they don't spend enough time with each other imagine they had to go on an hour or two of gameplay and he does help her out and go up with ladders saving each other's lives and stuff for now even if it's just for a moment Joel's also fine dude even he had to say even if it's just for a moment cause he knows you can barely fucking count this just to roll it back very vulnerable and unneeded for the first time in a long time helping Abby gives Joel a sense of self-worth again even if it's just for a moment no you don't even know the chronological order of the whole fucking game yourself did you play it did you play it again did you watch the final cutscene okay this is a point against the storytelling of the game because the flashbacks and the flashbacks in the flashback ruined the whole storytelling this is very good this is not a very accurate point also finally become part of something that is bigger than himself he is part of a larger community the game's writers leave notes scattered throughout the chapter that indicates the community is attempting to regain their humanity well we can read regain their humanity regain their humanity meaning like he has to be nicer and more trusting oh no what is he is he talking about the community gaining their humanity or Joel like anything about it doesn't mean being stupid no but every time you make these arguments it goes in the opposite direction too like the idea that the community is healing and becoming more caring is like the hardened patrolman we need to be even more care we gotta protect these fuckers we are the line between the infected and this incredibly important piece of humanity that is left not just infected hunters too hostile humans the idea that it makes your patrolman soft what do you mean there are people out there that live outside those walls to see that town and go we should try to attack that town that's what the game literally tells us that's what we see literally in the first game there's a whole hunter attack it's like the true detective line we are bad men we keep the other bad men out the door that's the thing they do instead of immediately assuming other survivors have bad intentions they are trying to form connections with other groups now I think the zombies pressing in on them immediately are a little bit more of a you can't claim this with the many many examples of them not doing it like this is the one example that they do you're like see they do it you're like okay see this person doesn't look both ways before crossing the street there's this one instance of them just putting a blindfold on and playing in traffic exactly of Jackson so at this moment Joel's the ambassador for Jackson no no no I give him some evidence somewhere along the line that'd be nice and even though he's saying that right at best the ambassador would be Tommy like he's the guy that goes hey guys come to our town they shouldn't be doing that that's absurd it's Joel he's the ambassador the Joel lore has expanded Joel is not only death he is an ambassador at the United Nations at the United Nations for Jackson Wyoming where is he getting this they are treating this like as though he came in and he was like I am a representative from Jackson we would like to welcome you with open arms and then they shoot him in the leg and he's like no don't do I'm just the message me representative Jackson you come trade with Joel Pete negotiations have concluded badly the negotiations never took place he's not speaking for himself community things like this so Joel's found meaning in his life I really have to ask where is he getting this like do you get my problem with this like where is he getting that suddenly Joel takes it upon himself to be an ambassador in that sequence of events from inferences like there's nothing else you have like the connections in the flashbacks and he's basically just saying hey we assume this because he helped Abby also technically technically in that scene it's Tommy being the ambassador why don't you go into our town and resupply it's not sure making that offer I just like the idea that when Tommy when he's labeled it off all the fucking details including the postage code and security numbers and stuff and it just pans over to Joel and he's just looking at Tommy like the fuck dude oh it's even worse than that Mahler he goes oh I'm Joel oh why'd you stop guys am I a famous person we pointed this out before but the game fucked up because they had them react to Joel but it didn't have them react to Tommy I have it now on the exact frame y'all act like you heard of us or something they were all there to find a man named Tommy Tommy says his name is Tommy none of them give a fuck my name is Joel and they'll go it's just like ah fucking you forgot who they're there for why are you standing in the middle of the room yeah that's another thing that Joel would totally do stand in the center of all these mysterious people and start spinning around like hey what's up what's going on oh no matter where is that the wall don't stand close to like an exit way no no no just fucking help y'all feel like you heard of it he is speaking for the community things like this so Joel's found meaning in his life he is no longer on edge and ready to kill anyone he crosses paths with he's never ready to kill I mean I guess if you want to he's not just going around killing everyone he sees that's Abby he didn't even do that in the first game because he didn't well he was going to kill Henry until he realized that Henry was traveling but he was attacked by Henry yes yes but then he also still was like willing to work with Henry when Ellie tried reasoning with him and it happened again after Henry saved them from drowning because he was like he disarmed him was pointing a gun at him seemed ready to kill him but was talked down from it like Joel's not as bloodthirsty as like cosmonaut variety hour or just right make him out to be as long as you're not like actively trying to kill him he can be reasoned with oh yeah you can reason with a Grim Reaper okay just don't shake his hand that's what the writers built an entire community to visually show that Joel is not a savage anymore what do you mean that's supposed that he lives there that doesn't prove anything about his character hey he's not a savage when was he a savage what do you mean he's a pragmatic guy who is trying his best to live in a violent world that's his setup in the first game he's not a savage the whole reason he's so fucking violent is because he's trying to act first like the whole he's trying to get ahead of the game which is people trying to kill you yeah like all the people that you kill in the last of us if you just walk around and try to get through an area without sneaking through they'll attack you like you have to basically kill and self-defense the entire game I don't agree with Joel being a savage also like that implies him being a barbarian just looting people randomly when he doesn't he's not like that like he's not a rager and people look at this and just think Joel gets killed by a trainee with a golf club alright that club was out of context but I couldn't resist here's the full okay good on joe go like it is buddy I think his channel the comment that I got spoiled on this fucking asshole Joel gets killed by a trainee with a golf club I was like oh my god these internet trolls I think what it really comes down to is people are just upset they didn't get another huge climactic I just want to stop because go back like five years right and Joe would be arguing with people like total biscuit Joe was very much on the feminism spine social justice fine this isn't going to change anything and I love watching them destroy everything he loves to the point where he just has to admit that I was right about everything he said this was the game that did it right he was like this was the thing that did it he broke on this one there's an agenda behind it and as we've been saying for a long time now Joe I didn't want to be right about it but it's obvious and it's like I'm glad you're on the sensible side finally golf club I was like give me a few years I think what it really comes down to was meant to be representative of lots of us three men can be great well as people are just upset they didn't get another huge climactic Joel story at like to go out and like defending Ellie in like a gunfight or or something that's a revolutionary story time no I'm not I'll be the one to say I'm not requesting that I want to make sense it should make sense but I would have been fine with that it would have been fan service as long as it made sense yeah would have made sense it would have been really heroic and people would have really appreciated that people would have said that's in line with Joe's character sacrifice himself to save Ellie let's throw out that defense happy with the character change your mind yeah I just want to throw that out there wanting Joel to have a death that is heroic slash he does something good in exchange for his life sacrifice wise nothing wrong with one in that that's uh it's normal to want a character you like to not be humiliated and to go out in a blaze of glory yeah exactly I'd like some emotional satisfaction but I can't help but notice that the guy that we would just sort of clip on he's hardly some fat neck beard is he like you know you look quite buff what's wrong with neck beards huh huh well as an as probably the leading neck beard on the internet the king of the I'm not saying there's anything wrong but originally the criticism was that everyone looks like the South Park neck beard and it's like well that yeah good points are gone he did say that yeah and I'm gonna I'll say it I'll give it to old Druckman I mean what he did certainly was revolutionary no it wasn't TLJ did it already yeah yeah I get the intent behind it like the intent is for the player to also get mad at Abbey right that's that's why they made so shocking and violent and psychopathic that's the intent behind it right and are you also to just sort of like set up hey anyone can die in the setting which I'm fine with yep yeah well the argument the argument that's preferable the argument that floats around is like why did you expect Joel would have anything but a violent death considering all that he's done which is a weird like comma argument or something I'm not even sure that's a weird like adjust world scenario that's what they're arguing like of course Joel will get such a violent bloody death then by that logic shouldn't some other character in the game also meet the tragic violent and just anyone you control in any of these games should get violent bloody death because the mechanics require you to kill people violently and bloodily yeah and they call their friends names out no doggy no no Winston no Winston not my friend Winston they got Clara Clara's neck a slit oh my god it'd be so much funnier if they were like Clara we were we were we were gonna get married I'll get you 17 minutes retirement oh no I love Joe when Abby blows off Joel's kneecap with a shotgun Tommy yells no but he really should have said Joel and then maybe that would have actually gotten them to think oh shit these are people yeah he called out his name no the true as chat point no the true one would have been for Tommy to say craze as Joel was shot there man please tell me more about how you can improve this game I think it's pretty obvious we've seen that story before we all saw Logan we all know the inspiration stop don't appeal oh no we get a good story again oh no it's like if I said like I want to make a movie with a bunch of people trapped in a house and one of them is a zombie it's like they already did that it's called this and I'm like oh I mean I want to do a different yeah well they already did it oh simpson did it do you mind if I do it differently no it reminds me of that YMS video I just watched I watched YMS's Kimba video which was a really great watch and there's like the whole South Park episode where we're like yeah simpson's already did it yeah he points out the one you have a lie in TV show that's done like a bazillion episodes that you have a lie in film you're probably going to find a whole bunch of things you can compare like just by how the odds work I mean you look at like a website like TV tropes which you know basically collects all the different storytelling devices and cliches and stuff that you see in fiction it's like everything has tropes everything will have something in common with loads of other things it's like narratives work I want my protagonist to have a story there's got to be a logical progression from A to B to C and if there isn't then you don't have a narrative if you got your little sitcom you're like my main character he's kind of an idiot he's going to get into guns he's going to buy one he's going to test it out it's like simpson's having a whole episode about that and you're like okay I'm still going to do it hopefully I do it then you know you can probably make a million jokes about it but simpson's can only do like I don't know 500 in an episode so there's plenty more that you can do nobody says simpson's already did it anymore though because nobody's watching it anymore nobody knows what it's doing anymore some thought did it simpson's could start copying simpson's episodes no one would notice I learned the people in shackle like wah wah wah wah from a yeah oh my god I think he put it on twitter recently that's like his most liked video it's because everyone fucking loved what he did it's like into that history well it's amazing it's like he was going to do a throwaway like section talking about the lion king gripping off of kimba and then it just leads him down this rabbit hole that resulted in him spending like an entire summer researching kimba watching like all kimba media in its entirety and then making a two and a half hour long video thoroughly just destroying this 25 year long urban legend I have been watching the highlights of him doing his lion king and kimba stuff and I'm super excited to see this lion king video he's making he's got a lot of interesting stuff to say and I'm really looking forward to it he's apparently been infected with the long two like he's he's talking about he's only like 15 minutes into the movies and he's got like an hour of video welcome to the law he was already a log bad when you put all this videos together he was inspiration for the long that movie seems heavily reliant on the last of us formula the last of us was a trend setter not just in video games but in movies do you honestly think they're just going to play it safe for the next installment and do something like I wanted Joel to shoot so now you're arguing what did you expect yeah so honestly especially in hindsight that is what they should have done it would have been easier to execute properly I was about to say why can't you play something safe quote-unquote and still make a good story well I just find it easier to execute than Joel I just need to know just let me know because I'll put it in my little notepad how many times does a archetype have to be done in other media before you're not allowed to do it anymore was it three if it's three all right I'll just make a note three well there's a reason why things are cliches they're cliches because they fundamentally work people will be like okay I sort of saw it coming this ending for Joel and man it was super satisfying darn he could have gone out like Tess he could have mirrored Tess's no yeah is the easier choice better by virtue of being easier to execute no no I was just saying that's not what I said I'm just saying it would have been easier to execute yeah that wasn't my question I'll just read it out I saw Theo's message wow give him a name drop in I believe Rack said that would have been the better choice to execute and I just I think I said it would have been easier to execute I think so too yeah yeah easier execution doesn't sound people would have people would have walked away with the last of us franchise and be like you know what that was good I really like that stuff that they did you know I was worried but I got something really satisfying people stayed in character it was really great I can't wait for the last of us three no one is saying I can't wait for the last of us three Ronald this is like one guy somewhere I honestly I honestly don't think there's going to be last of us three well if I don't know what to base it off other than just sales and they might be convinced that they did really well and that they should go for it I don't know silent sales since the second week there was an 80% drop off and now like I can't find out how many copies they've actually sold and so it's like considering the five six million copies that they've sold from the first week how many of the people that bought those copies actually liked the second game because it was supposed to be like a 50-50 split at least why would they need to create a last of us three I mean what more is there to destroy we could set that about two what you don't have any further expectations do you just expect this can be shit well I mean dude I hate to say it but Ellie's still alive they can fuck with her as much as they want let's do it I want to see what they're going to do I want to see how bad it can get I don't think anyone gives a shit about any Ellie anymore her character was just assassinated during this game I agree but you can still fuck around and well you can have many spit on it what are you going to do you can have zombie man he's spitting on here okay that's what they're going to do no listen in last of us two people don't die to gunshots taken through the back of the head so it'll turn out that man he's fine he's just blinded one eye at now it's so shitty because it just shows how crappy a bunch of writers they are because they want their payoff and they deliver it in a cheap way but they don't want to commit to it and it's just so crap he's shot in the fucking head in this scene so your brain goes oh no this character I can't believe that he's dead and then they're just like yeah it's like he's actually just fine don't worry about it we were just tricking you in the thinking that he died from that gunshot to the back of the head haha are we not clever we writers haha I'll tell you what there might be if there was a third game it would be abby oh yeah imagine making her the protagonist yes come on we should also get killed violently it'll be abby abby and whatever the trans abby and lev finding the fireflies body cop you know the funny thing is like do you remember the abby part of the game and the intro of her part where she was reading a book and while she was falling asleep I did research and and that book was made by David Benny off and the lead character name in that book is Lev that's what's interesting to me I think they named it they named him because of that I mean bids of a feather fly together like Dan and Dave plus Ryan Johnson plus who's the star trek one that's fucking everything up okay what whatever you both just said then you add that to are you okay there bro Mario leave it up for a long time okay cut us some slack yeah we did not look at the clock at this point it's a bad move it's day again yay it's gonna be night for me eventually shoot the bad guys it's ironic because playing it safe would have probably shut everyone the hell up this is why the Lion King remake did so well it was absolute garbage compared to the original but half of America just wants to see the same shit over and over wait so you consider it playing safe like not really remake it like one to one but to tear out all of the emotion of the original that's a safe choice yeah I don't I am super curious to get some Lion King reviews from people who never saw the original I think everyone's seen the original Lion King it's like the bible of cinema everyone knows about it and everyone's seen it and it's on you go into a hotel room and there's a copy of the Lion King sitting on the nightstand it's just everywhere so I'm curious to see what the perceptions of this new Lion King based off the old one and how big those member berries are and to see what people really think if they didn't see the original I don't know because from what I've seen it looks horrible they done fucked up if the end of this game was Joel and Ellie driving down the highway in a gunfight to save Ellie's life one last time these people would be saying it was a good ending hell yeah that sounds great sure that sounds good that sounds fun what if it was a good ending it would be a genuine subversion of expectations also because people are expecting Joel to die right? yeah more people are expecting Joel to die than who weren't yeah everyone was expecting Joel to die I think it was just a matter of how but yeah converting of it Joel didn't die like the challenges of a writer what if you came in like bright-eyed bushy tail into the wonderful world of writing for this game and everyone agreed like prior with a bunch of bullet points that Joel was going to die and we're going to figure it out today how we're going to do it actually no we're going to keep them alive we're going to kill them in the third one we're going to keep them alive the whole game we're like yep see that I was like damn that might be more challenging to keep them alive the whole thing oh I think that I think that'd be super interesting because we've said people are expecting him to die but you just sort of give him some close calls get people really really nervous put him into a coma or something right so the effect of him being dead is still there but he's not dead oh we have that I want to push back because I fucking hate it when they're like this story is over fuck that shit your story's not over until you're dead so like he could actually be played throughout this game even fuck it let's let's go with it let's make Ellie maybe she's not even in the game what about that what about the crazy idea and we're playing as an aged Joel we're entering to like late 60s or some shit and like he has to just consistently watch everybody he ever meets and forms relationships with die every time and he outlives them all and that would be severe survivors guilt at that point honestly they could totally subvert my expectations by just making it good all I'm trying to look the only thing I'm trying to get at with this is that I just the conversation seems so limited all the time in scopes like come on he had to die at the beginning there's only two things you could do that's what people did they did they do all the time with Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi it's not at all he had to be this or if he wasn't this you just wanted to have this one other option it's almost there's an uncountable amount of potential the challenge is telling Ellie why can't the ending of The Last of Us 2 have something to do with Jackson why can't have something to do with a completely different community just saying Joel protecting Ellie at the end of The Last of Us 2 or whatever there's plenty of other branches could be taken you know you know I said your story isn't over until you're dead so I said not true no one's ever really gone the fucking mad head from God fuck it so we're gonna get the Joel's Spirit Force ghost oh yes definitely directed by Ryan Johnson I'm starting to think because I used to think it was just a shitty argument they bring in to try and defend themselves where they go oh you wanted Luke flying 360 throwing his lights everywhere but actually like we had a guest on I think it was part two who just sort of fell into making that argument they were like so Luke as he is it's a really interesting 180 on the character then we were like yeah it fucking goes against everything he's supposed to be so did you just want to like see him you know just amazing Jedi master just like why why is that the second option why is there only those two binary it always has to be the two like we're talking stories here there are billions of fucking options we could do whatever the fuck we want they could just be all frogs they're all just frogs everyone's frogs everything is frogs all the land the plan is the frogs all the way down all frogs why couldn't you have had a frog just hopping around and find out that he was the one that killed his dad you know he's happenstance brings them together they've got to survive together lots of stuff could have been taught through this is like I'm partially interested in the idea of just like imagine the boldness of a fucking crazy ass development team or a producer team of films we're going to release two of this and we're going to go two different directions entirely like this is story not even A and B just this is the last of us and then last of us two and they both have different subtitles and they just decided to go two different directions two different teams worked on it just just has that ever happened obviously pokemon doesn't count I swear to god don't fucking reference pokemon okay gold so it was a different storyline you know um sorry master fact like plays with different story threads and I'm sorry what I'm what I guess I'm talking about is like on one hand we have Neil Druckmann's like let me go do my thing yeah sure and then the other team is like let's have it so that Ellie is killed in the fucking opening and Joel goes nuts and by the end of the game he's killed so many more people all of Jackson's destroyed is like the worst ending for him ever his whole world is falling apart like Nazi bigot white supremacist because he killed not just a female but a member of the alphabet community oh well let's see how it goes we don't have to we don't have to make everyone hate us you know well this is the figure that you're like hey what about a third development team and it's like both of them get killed in the opening and you play as Jumble the brother who we never met before that's his nickname though what about you play as a tapeworm inside the intestines of of like a really good wonderful person imagine the cuties imagine those cuties yeah and your name is Adam I hate to do this so I'm going to have to duck out oh I bring up the tapeworm it's the tapeworms thank you I don't have a choice I'm afraid but thank you so much for having me on this has been great fun it's been fun hanging out Targon it's popping on for number 100 yeah yeah no it's a real pleasure and you know I'm happy to come back anytime see you later sorry I know it's very good okay all right then man on a mission all of the important people had said goodbye already all the important people he had to run I'm sure of it he would never be so so so rude he's British we call that anti-rude senses I was I was waiting for everyone to finish talking so I could have my term yeah weekend warrior he was so cool though sorry I think this is the first time I've been on with Targon so like yeah I like how EFAP is the way we can work with me and a bunch of people he wants to hang out with remember when Alvin Skeptic came on so cool like with Armored Skeptic I was like fanboying inside you fanboyed each other and it was wonderful yeah he was so cool though like ever like so the video let's continue I think that game doesn't sound cool I'm just saying Halo 3 came out 13 years ago same argument this good thing came out last year it's old and it wouldn't be good can we just fast forward to why make Lost of Us 2? Lost of Us 1 came out can you just explain to us how this is actually good or are you agreeing that it's terrible in which case why are you defending why it's terrible I will say yeah I'm not exactly sure I'm just I'm tired of playing a game itself so two things Rags and I are running low on fuel so if you lack structure in your video we're gonna be even more testy and this video like I did point out I was like oh we're doing we shoot up how bad the CLJ is and then we can pay back to Lost of Us 2 and how it does it well I was like oh that's how structure cool did that for one point then we moved on to something completely different and now we're on something completely different it's a bit like these are just a selection of thoughts it's like okay it would help if the arguments were strong but I'm getting why would you want to have Joel and Ellie have a car chase at the end when we did that in Halo 3 I'm like alright I need to sit down what endings are we allowed to have just shitty ones we've had so many games with great endings now we have to go through all the really crappy shitty ones until we go all the way around the horn again and we can start having good endings again oh yeah that's another thing I want to note down how long do we have to wait before we can do a thing again you know just a thing I don't think I've done a game since like Silent Hill for since like 2002 so we do Pong yeah it's been a while since Pong right nobody's done that for a while I'm gonna do it right now I'm gonna blow up the whole fucking industry with Pong Pong 2 in the Pong everyone wants to act like they're too smart for movies like Star Wars but then something thematically complex comes out that isn't from oh please please please please please please you know what's thematically complex being like violence is good but also it's bad no it's like the message of the I hate it I'm repeating myself because every argument from people who like the last of us seems to be the same like it's thematically complex and you just didn't get it why is he saying that it's big brains that say it's not but they defend it like that so why isn't he explaining why if you say it's big brain and with dumb stupid mammals explain to us why is it big brain where's this argument please tell me there's no pro game argument here it reminds you I can make a shitty reference I don't like this opinion I'm gonna make a shitty reference describing Kylo Ren is complex same thing he's so complex he's not complex because I can't even describe him because I don't know where to begin he's got a little mouse inside his head that runs around pressing buttons that changes his personality he's just like I'll be that now good old Kylo complex Christopher Nolan and everyone hates it a lot of people are also mad because Joel didn't get a redemption arc what kind of redemption are you okay so while you're making this stupid video stop for a second and answer your own question we gotta unpack that Joel didn't get a redemption arc can you publish what he needs to get redemption for please is it lying to Ellie he doomed humanity he needs to redeem himself to himself because he's treating himself like shit by not doing things he needs to be doing redeeming himself to Ellie yes best benefit of the doubt I will hand you he lied to Ellie but it's tough for me because I don't actually have a problem with someone lying what is it white lies in that context something like that it's alive that isn't intended to be malicious this is the problem with him not explaining anything he can easily explain why he said what he said yeah he just doesn't because he didn't need to because the ending of the first game made it perfectly clear he didn't need to that's why and then the second game suddenly came and said no we really need to discuss this no we didn't this game explained it all it left it perfectly and openly ambiguous maybe it would have worked out how he told what's going on maybe it would have worked out if he had told Ellie when she was younger because she seems to just be a better person when she was younger it worked out like the only scene in The Last of Us 2 the only part of the game which I would class as really good is the museum segment because it's the only time I feel like the characters are actually the characters Ellie's Ellie and Joel's Joel and then the whole of the rest of the game neither the characters behave like themselves ever again it was a little bit in the was it a hotel whatever a little bit in the hotel but she was getting stroppy then liars she was developing into stroppy Ellie by then you guys looking for here how do you redeem yourself after dooming humanity you didn't do enough of this okay I guess we're gonna have to do this we're gonna have to do so we're gonna have to do this let's say best possible scenario we'll start at the best possible scenario then we'll go with what actually happened so let's say perfect world idealistic circumstances they develop a cure and can actually spread this cure to every human being on the planet no the galaxy alright you spread that I know right we're going big because I'm home so I can't go there now spreads a cure to the galaxy no one can die from infection anymore they can still die from everything else so the amount of people who actually die from the infection part not the getting clawed up and bitten and having throats cut and grabbed and getting shot by other humans and killed in these turf wars that happened throughout this game and the last game they still die so you save potentially a really really small really really small amount of lives are actually saved from that all of the events of the second game the conflict between the WLF and the scars and all that stuff all that still happens all that still happens it doesn't stop anything right and again this is taking the best possible case scenario of the fireflies who are shown to be insanely dubious in the first game extremely incapable of probably actually mass producing this thing and distributing it and getting it to people and all that stuff assuming they even get the cure in the first place from her brain we're already given an insane amount of leeway to all of that so I wouldn't happen so the idea that Joel is dooming humanity here when humanity is clearly on the uptick because we see the difference between the first game and the second game with the settlements and everything that's bullshit it's actually pretty funny to think about the second game kind of disproves that humanity was doomed by Joel doesn't it they're doing better they're clearly doing better so don't give me just don't give me this horseshit you stop to think about it for five seconds and you're like oh actually yeah the cure I mean it would have been better to have a cure also I appreciate that some some people might be like you don't know that that was had anything to do with any of the motivations in his head at that point and it's like just because the second game has him fumble and not say a single thing in his defense doesn't mean that's what was happening in his head in the first game also I have to say it's kind of funny for the firefly to just assume that that was the one doctor on earth that could develop a vaccine and or everyone to assume that Ellie would be the only person in existence to have an immunity or the fungus to mutate and become benign like you think that that's never gonna happen again really every step along the way from beginning to end that you look at in just the tiniest bit of you know the tiniest little bit of skepticism at everything that you see and it all starts to fall apart it looks worse and worse and worse for the fireflies and Joel becomes more and more and more and more vindicated Joel did the right thing in Joel's shoes fuck the fireflies he did the right thing to say to Ellie especially since they were going to kill her by putting her in an operation without her consent also no he's a monster he's a hero boo bad person like this idea that every death after Joel saved her was his fault he got rid of all the spores in the world when they released the cure into the air and it instantly spreads across the entire and gets rid of them all in the go and then a clicker just eats the person who does that and they're like oh fuck right oh shit that's right this solves very little of our problems fuck yeah you stop all the factions it's just come on if I went out and I killed the guy who was about to create the cure for cancer in humanity I'm sorry yeah this is the case of the men everyone's telling them they're wrong and the narrative is like yep they're wrong all the view is like but but no they're right they had a very much the correct man apology letter synthesized the cure himself he was a construction worker he lived his life protecting his tribe it's not a cure it's a vaccine yeah and it's not a guarantee whatsoever and they're fucking insane to chop out a fucking brain after like half a day of testing it's insane oh yeah that's also crazy to me like they never consider that Jerry's actions are unreasonable no everyone just go how are they going to synthesize the part that they require off Ellie there's only a finite amount of it so how are they going to synthesize that when she's the only person apparently in the world who is immune what if there was a choice to like let them do it and then turns out it was all like it was all bullshit they were crazy crazy cult and the doctor is just like chanting with his brain or dripping the blood over himself while we're just saying weird words and he injects himself and then gets bit on purpose and then he turns into like a nemesis bloater and he starts chasing everybody and he's like I am open for all that would be awesome and then it just says you chose wrong you should have saved the idiot credits you're like okay holy gratitude and that's why people like him people that post memes like this and think their favorite character has to be inherently good who the fuck who idolizes Scarface who idolizes Heisenberg geez who are these bad people like I agree but who is this meme made for they're good characters it's not like we don't funnily enough I think that's the point I think that's the point he's making is like just because you respect the character or the writing of the character doesn't mean the ohiro like what the fuck though it's weird to equate like to throw Joel in with this lot I'd be like careful Joel's got morality you know there is a morality he's had to do some horrible things to survive but he's not by definition a horrible person there's two different people was just so reluctant to bring nuance into an argument no he did bad things in the past and that means that he is an irredeemable piece of shit right okay okay it's funny because Joel would be stronger that's not the one they use well yeah if the Joel that we were playing in the first game was Hunter Joel yeah I totally get it but he's clearly a changed person since then you try living in a world like this I would smash my neighbors face in with a brick to save my family if that's what it entailed this world you know the very nice comfortable morality of sitting by our computers or sitting in our sofas and making videos about this is all very well and easy to judge but if you're in an actual situation a life and death situation like this you would have to compromise what would be societal morals to live and he got into a community where you know in the first game and he changed he you know once he was back in a more established civilization shall we say he came more of a normal you know reverted back to a more rounded moral person but this just because he was a you know he had a checkered past in the first game doesn't mean that he should be fucking hung drawn and quartered and have his face smashed in by a golf club because Abbey fucking smash the thing surrounding elements of it it's weird that people seem to think that Abbey redeems herself but Joel doesn't deserve like redemption at all or forgiveness how does Abbey redeem yourself because she saved a trans kid a trans kid that nearly got them or that he got his sister killed because he was so fucking she whatever no he I got you know so don't want to get the wrong pronoun because they were so fucking selfish that they ran away back to the village to try and make peace with their mother that we never saw and ended up killing his mother which we never saw because we only saw it through the eyes of his sister and Abbey because she tried to attack him and so great yeah you redeemed yourself I still want to recognize that you know like the whole I don't know let's just say you rescue dogs every single day and really cuddling great with them but once per Sunday you just butcher one screaming and torture it and enjoy it that's just something you I just be like is the scales balanced or is that just like no you're just kind of insane like you spend the week doing that but because what she does to Joel like just gives me a big impression of her character it's like yeah but she's nice to other people and I'm like oh okay what we need is for her to recognize what she did was fucked up but that never happens I know that I beat this person to death with a golf club over a period of several hours but I also save this transgender kid from their abusive cult so I mean maybe it's on everyone individually to decide what they think of her as a character but for me like she's still insane as far as I'm concerned I have to repeat that she does not acknowledge what she did was wrong she never says sorry to Ellie so I don't think her redemption is earned at all oh redemption in so many quotes yeah you know what would make me like convinced to go ahead and spare Abby if Abby was basically willing to fall on her sword she gives her own gun to Ellie and says just kill me just finish me I feel so horrible over what I did to you and then that might make me like reconsider dude if we can make changes fucking hell let's get some dialogue in there let's get them talking holy shit yeah they never talk they never had like a moment to like discuss anything so it's just fucked up he's got the bat they throw the ball and then he just disappears wait no it seemed like you were going to the place we want you to go and then you said we're getting hit with a dose of reality what the fuck how is it realistic also that Ellie sees the person beating up her father figure and she doesn't do anything at the doorway how is that realistic she has a gun and she has a clear game yeah she got molotovs by that time yeah oh dude it actually fucking hurt my feelings on a very very deep level that she like chose to address this room by clumsily walking through the door where she hears screams on the other side like Ellie we've done this many times what are you doing yeah because if I if I am opening a door just cracking it open a little bit and I see someone wailing on my left one with a golf club and they're all beaten and bloodied and clearly unable to fight back my first instinct isn't to immediately line up the sights and shoot the person in the head and fill them up with lead no I'm gonna just walk in there go like what are you doing so yeah and every time Ellie is not under our control she's kind of fucking retarded you have this instance here with Joel where she just forgets everything in life and that bad stuff happens if you remember in the final fight with the final fight with or at least not the final fight but when you the first time you fight Abby there's three times where while you are playing Abby in her cut scenes you go through doorways following her when you know she has a gun and she doesn't just wait for you to come through the door and shoot you and then on the third way because they have the first door then you have going through the curtains and then you have going through the next door after that and instead Abby instead of Abby just fucking Ellie shooting Abby once she walks through the door like a fucking idiot she tries to go up and do the Tommy thing of instead of shooting you safely at a distance I'm going to try and hit you with my gun no not even a gun up like a plank just a plank or whatever instead of using her machete she has a machete if you go up to the third I know either of those is better than a fucking plank it happens when you follow people through doorways and video games the other person shoots you because you were doing fucking stupid you got shouting screaming and hitting if she just like slowly open the door and I'll push it forward just a little bit folk to a little lie out seeing what was going on immediately get that shot going this all could have happened the whole story changes you know it's really funny at ludonarrative distance that I discovered in my survivor plus playthrough is once she got to where Joel is being beaten I decided to instead of immediately going through the door I decided to shoot the door to see if anyone would respond they don't they just keep on beating him they are not capable of stuff like that okay well I mean in the first game if you take too long to kill the doctor fireflies Russian and gun Joel down that happened to me for the first time during my playthrough and you can see my jaw drop like they actually accounted for that in the first game and they don't in the second game and imagine why which is we rarely get say goodbye by the way we wanted to when that happens how long are you gonna let it control you are you gonna be able to move on are you gonna make eight anger you too so it's realistic is such a low fucking bar it's so numbingly I made a mistake I thought when he said like people are annoyed that he died it's the manner in which he died I thought he was referencing like the way it all happened all the mechanics that that came about to put him in that position can he was actually referencing the fact that he was bludgeoned like rather no it's logically possible for it to happen so shut the fuck up but that's what he's he doesn't actually I don't think he's registered how stupid all of this stupid events are that lead to it I think he's just talking about like how he was his face got all fucked up and he's bleeding it's like isn't that you just your favorite character got run over by a car it doesn't matter that you know they were blindfolding themselves and playing in traffic despite the fact that Joel can be thrown into a Dysa and all the bits of flash shower over Jackson I just be like okay as long as it makes fucking sense okay I just needed to make fucking sense let's just do that I hate the realistic argument also like it's realistic for Joel to go through this brutal death but at the same time it's realistic that if Joel didn't give up Ellie the world would be such a beautiful magical place like isn't it don't they recognize how naive that sounds right this is that no I think I think that that's stupid they think that that yeah if he did allow Ellie to get killed that everything would be fantastic everything would be great everyone be dancing and throwing flowers at each other that's the thing right like the world is doomed because of Joel but really is it really going to be perfect if Joel gave the cure also it's how is that realistic I'm going to take this another step further in the first game and Joel falls like two stories onto a piece of rebar that probably has rust on it that would probably get him an infection and would kill him within three weeks without immediate medical attention if he doesn't die immediately from bleeding out so after he gets pulled off the rebar and possibly breaking his back from the fall that fall kills the guy that he's fighting but doesn't kill Joel so for talking about realism here he should already be dead and I'm in favor of him dying instead of living if we're going to have him get impaled on rebar I'm okay with them doing the section where he gets wounded and Ellie has to protect him but it probably shouldn't be an impaling like just having him get shot or stabbed in the side something that's survivable a lot more than survivable than getting impaled I before this game came out I've said plenty of times I think in videos and in streams when discussing the last of us that I thought that the direction of the second game was kind of setting Joel up to be the reluctant villain because of the nature of what had happened in the first game that they would set him actually opposed to Ellie so Joel was never going to get a happy ending in this fucking series regardless of whether or not you saw his actions as good or bad he was never going to get a happy ending because of it you know that they'd retcon his actions from the previous game to make him a villain yeah well they retconned his well right until right at the end of the game all the information surrounding all the decisions yeah they withheld all the information until right at the end so it was again clearly trying to manipulate so as it's worse than that like at the end of Abby's part where she's at where the fuck is Santa Monica right like it's like contacting the fireflies is like this beacon of hope for humanity they're setting it up like that it just yes yes oh my god they're fireflies back together again folks yeah humanity has a chance so it's so pissed me off like the fireflies were fine in the first game because they were like ambiguous and as grim and as dark as this world would be like they're violent they're ambiguous and in the second game they're like these perfect people that would have fixed the world had Joel given up Ellie like really love and friendship fuck off like Jesus Christ where the fireflies go fireflies yeah I remember Abby saying that the fireflies were all about bringing the world back from the brink like bringing back civilization but when you play when you actually play through the first game they're just as as holic as everyone else it blew up the fucking place of the beginning yeah no they knock out Joel when he was clearly trying to say if this girl's life right like these are the beacons of the future I don't fucking think so yeah yeah if the game was strong enough it wouldn't have to hide these issues it wouldn't have to hide these conversations yeah but the game the story wasn't strong enough and so Kirkman knew that he had to purposely hide the conversations which we knew and have discussed today and he's just been gone through and then he just puts it in a little sentence right at the 25th hour of the fucking game that fixes it right mmm they get to say goodbye the way we wanted to when that happens how long are you going to let it control you are you going to be able to move on are you going to make an angry YouTube fuck off with this nonsense no it's proof that you're a baby they say yeah sometimes life is shit so fucking get used to it yeah what a great one of the amazing design philosophy for stories is like yeah it's fucking supposed to make you mad upset and angry and shit get over it if we pretend for a second that the eagles plot hole is like 100% legit as in like it was a mistake in the film and someone says like yeah why didn't they take the eagles to murder and someone goes sometimes life is shit like what that doesn't address anything I just said it's like sometimes life is shit mate so we're going to make some angry videos how are we going to do okay this is on par with just pretend that this is what you wanted well this would be it's good that this is 100 because it does feel a little like rax how long have we been doing this I feel old well I think we were going like 23 hours or 24 I don't know I bet like fucking 2 years of shitty arguments this big fucking charade we call life I don't fucking know it's so much of this what are we referring to desperate arguments wait 2 years this is the second year anniversary in a day it's the 2 year in a day anniversary of every frame of pause I like that this guy feels the need to go yeah sometimes life is shit as if like people have an experience like losing a loved one in a senseless act of violence suicide or disease really do we really need this concept explained to us just get over it dude fuck I would still push back on just like oh you want to do that okay fucking write it well though and then they're like buh buh buh buh buh buh isn't that good enough just the idea then you get big brain out but big brain you just don't get it you don't get your complex you don't get it in the winter there's random hordes of zombies you know it's weird that's reality they just know when abby turns up they just know that joel was going to turn up it's just this whole thing imagine you got like a movie building up this conflict between two characters and then randomly at the end the antagonist gets run over by a drunk driver that's completely unrelated to the building up conflict like sometimes you'll just get run over by a drunk driver doesn't matter that it fucking you know invalidates the whole build up of tension and conflict throughout the story makes it all fucking worthless what are you going to do make a youtube video about it what he said I'm pretty sure because we call a little bit of that before we rewound it he's about to say that just let him do the things are you going to be able to move on are you going to make eight angry youtube videos about it yes I was going to make money off stupid people stupid people yes just make one video youtubers being dismissive about other youtubers making commentary on things they care about yeah I know you made a video when you were angry he's like yeah cause some people care about things let's just flip the logic like oh look at you you're making a defensive video could you care about your little game are you upset are you trying to defend your shitty fucking video game that everybody hates hey man it's like 99% people hate it chill out pushing it to 100 like that it's just a game when I type in the sales for this game the things that pop up are sales drop and refunds that's a Joel's bastion head reference oh no watching Joel die was painful and sudden shocking and violent it fueled me with rage but that was the whole point the point of this game is to turn it was a cheap emotional response that was the point yeah um if the point is to make people just feel mad here's the thing making people feel things is really really easy it's so easy you can do it by accident without even trying the hard part is making people feel the specific things that's earned and justified by what you actually show them I'm not going to give this game credit for making us angry because it humiliated Joel when they killed him in this way that makes no sense and if you do give him credit for that then you need to get some higher standards my dude because that's shit well it's funny you point out like it's so easy to manipulate get those emotions go it's like oh yeah the last of us two knows all about that it's like look at the doggo look he's so cute look at him oh look at the zebra so cute go to blood still cute look Abby says she's willing to kill herself isn't that sweet guys she's heroic also I guess high five plus five in the likable character category would this guy still be making these arguments if the plot of the last of us two was instead about David's son getting revenge against Ali and Joel having to forgive David's son because I have a feeling that everyone praising this game would be singing a completely different tune when you despise oh Jesus and when you're playing as her there's nothing lovable about her also dude yeah but he's going the route he's doing the things doing the themes where it's like don't you get it Abby's not necessarily just a character she's making a point as a person in the story it's up it's a narrative element thematic through like supposed to learn something from her okay okay like okay fine like let's say that Abby is justified in killing Joel let's give the game that I think that's what they were going for like every character we had a retcon the last game to make it so well yeah but even if she was just fighting killing him it doesn't explain the sadism yeah as it stands she's a murderer she starts the game off as a murderer it doesn't justify her nice and she doesn't really grow as a character she does I am firmly on the she does okay Abby is has a basic grasp of social norms Abby is nice to people that are nice to her basic grasp of where he does yeah and that's it and she'll be mean to people that are mean to her she doesn't get new she doesn't have any sort of nuance after the game during the game none of that shit isn't it perfect that we've got scared people up there looking at a Jared leto trying to cover his eyes good point I guess he should be expanded once again not pull man why does Abby stop from killing Dina it's not because she realizes it's fucked up it's because she has a friend that she trusts that says don't do it no it'll be really hard for us to hang out if you do that yeah why doesn't she kill Ellie because her boyfriend her ex boyfriend says no don't do it she doesn't have a moral compass it's just that the people she likes doesn't want her to do that well she portrays her whole team for two other randies that's a moral compass right no no like the whole team you mean the WF right not the jack not the firefly team yeah that's also weird I love it when Isaac just shows up it's so funny oh hey buddy that's funny right like that's another thing that bothered me in Mel and Owen not wanting to tell Ellie where Abby is like just tell her she's on an island they don't know where on the island Abby is that seems terrible it should be she's like I'm not giving up my friend what it should be is what'll happen to us when we tell you I feel like the dialogue is so garbage in a lot of like well we already know this but what it should be was I'm pregnant don't kill me look at my huge baby bump don't stab me in the neck you'll kill me in the baby give me a moment while I undo my comically large jump of things you can't tell that I'm pregnant you notice this right as like the whole game she's flaunting her pregnancy but at that moment she's covering herself up it's a point to use every point in the game that she's in proudly showing the baby bump the time where Ellie isn't meant to see she's pregnant cover up so she goes oh no I killed a pregnant woman what would have been what would have made that seem better as if Mel just goes I'm pregnant and Ellie's like what and she's like I'm pretty sure it's not yours at least it's just they called back that Dina line I would have actually given the game props for a funny joke wouldn't have made sense but it would have been funny you're pregnant but who's the mother like that scene is so like the defense I thought up for that scene was it was raining at that time right so she has the jacket but it doesn't make sense for her to just was she cold because of that yeah she was inside yeah she had to sweat and a jacket on like I don't isn't that extra warm was it really that cold I think it was really or is it or you know how being pregnant makes you feel cold but we went through if somebody pointed a gun you would immediately be like please don't point at her that means she's pregnant so that would be the first defense that you would use against it tells you how much you cared about his potential child he was like he was thinking about that abby poontang that he just smashed the knife that idea was to get gamers to experience a radical concept called empathy wow so brave he liked abby felt when she brained Joel don't you get it oh my god she said the word from the last video fuck empathy is earned don't you get it rags how angry you are at her is what she felt against Joel so you're anger to kill her she's a murderer and Joel isn't her dad saved a zebra south also isn't this the point where we empathize with a person that killed the father figure in front of the lady that is begging her not to do it yeah we're empathizing with her sobbing into the camera for like what 25 seconds look how sad she is feel bad for her and then cut to she's like going to kill someone's father figure right in front of them as their sobbing similarly to her really feel the empathy south do they think they're making such a dramatic moment or they did not realize how it makes her so psychotic wait I'm through with the question like in them writing that scene with Abby crying and then it cuts to her in the present smashing Joel's brains out were they thinking of that oh what a dramatic moment what a twist but they didn't realize that it makes Abby look more psychotic when she still decides to smash Joel's head in like oh yeah they're totally going for that you're not so different to you and I you're kind of different though yeah I'm I'm pretty sure that you you're torturing someone that killed your father rather rather quickly to save my life and he also saved your life just an hour ago although Abby wouldn't know that information but Tommy would certainly have told Ellie like yeah the bitch that killed Joel we saved her life right before she did that yeah yeah I hate this empathy word like do they realize what it means no no I mean well just yeah I'll always be stuck all the way back at like you guys do get there's a difference between who decided to kill Joel and I decided to kill her you do right and Naughty Dog are like no what would be the difference you're like oh okay well death is death regardless of context is vengeance blood fuel rage guys empathy yes but you after I just murdered you but technically found out that you could have hung back since you were pregnant but you chose not to so oh this is kind of your fault yeah it kind of is it's her fault and the fault of everyone else around her who did not even suggest the idea that a pregnant woman going on this adventure was just insane and it's not up to them though it's hard to say I'll be fair to the game here like they were just going to travel to the forward operating base right they didn't expect an ambush but they cleared her for active duty in the first place which is the dumb thing right it's like why clear this clearly pregnant lady for active duty it's not it goes further than that though it's not just a pregnant lady humanity is on the verge of extinction and you have a pregnant woman and you want to put it into the fucking field because you're an equal opportunist fuck off you'd be protecting her at all costs not only that as she's supposed to be this gifted surgeon who's like a very good asset you'd keep her in the main base you wouldn't want her to go anywhere else right no she would be gold dust but a pregnant magic surgeon deeper inside he looks through this game with modern day sensibilities and he doesn't understand that if the world was 25 years deep into an apocalypse these things wouldn't be like they are now yeah oh it's actually worse much worse I mean the scene is much worse like I made a note Abby asks Mel does Owen know and then Mel does this smug expression like what does Owen have to say about this like her decision is my body my choice and all that that reminds you of that it's like and the funny thing is doors Owen right like she's acting all high and mighty like Owen's decision or any input from him wouldn't affect her yeah right like the moment Owen gets killed right shot Mel goes ah I'm gonna kill you Ellie she goes for the knife like get off I mean yeah well yeah no protection the only reason why she you'd grab the baby they have almost like a Pavlovian response you would grab your baby um there's an instinctive reaction you just you'd grab it to protect it your arms would go around the baby whenever your husband gets shot you'd grab your baby but you know for protection because you'd be you know that would be like a protective instinct would be to kind of like put your hands around your belly probably no as the I mean I can't believe she's so that she tries to stab this person who you shot well there's also the mech argument that the baby's in control of the body yeah just to see her about Owen though I must save my vessel I know all the men all the men of Braille Beeson in this fucking game so I'm gonna be 100% honest the concept of what if the main guy is murdered and then you become the murderer sounds like an M. Night Shyamalan script pitch no I have a feeling it doesn't and also that's not a good thing I was gonna say why would you that's not associated with good tisms anymore not only is not a bad thing but they've single not a dog is single-handedly probably ruined anyone from trying this concept in far into the future because of how poorly it turned out a year it's a really interesting concept and one that I actually wouldn't mind trying to pull off myself I just think that you got to be very careful when you do it because if you fuck up and they fucked up hard I mean it it's it's really fucking terrible for your brand it's all I'm gonna say someone was smoking a few too many bong rips and this idea popped in their head and a hundred million dollars later here we are with that being said all these ideas were executed way better than anyone is giving them credit for it and a million times better than anything I disagree examples please cause we're at this point in the video and we've not really gotten any explanation as to how it's good you just told it was? it's good it's like nine minutes of setting up that the mad people on the internet passionate about the subject matter are wrong then four minutes of intro yeah this is it this is it Luke die was like watching my old high school friend Carl die from an overdose to most of us he was dead already no one even mourned him really that goes for because Luke wasn't dead to us already oh the framing device the framing device that's his framing device right like he's comparing why they fucked up Luke versus why Joel is good that's the idea behind it I know what he's trying to do it's just shitty analogy he should set that up like Luke's dead I know that was it the rise of Skywalker was even worse because he might as well just been alive for this scene would make no difference in the story because he's doing the same I agree I know I mean then again it's all advantages to be a force ghost anyway wouldn't it cascade like he's alive and just sitting on this island he's like go save the world I would just sit here I'll get your x-wing I guess here you go you can do it I'm old I got arthritis I can't fly shit the whole trilogy was just hanging on an island and being a creep a creep well see just called Luke a pedophile no no no unlike here's the thing unlike Epstein Luke actually did kill himself okay good damn good that's good thank you I'm gonna give you a virtual clap virtual clap you can just do a real clap no a golf clap not for the last of us to stream oh no death set the entire story into motion the effects of his death are felt all the way up to the very lap of the game didn't yeah yeah the the effects of his death are felt all the way up to the game cause the whole plot was about was entirely okay any Star Wars fanatics this outraged over Luke's death probably cause people stopped the people on the page got the fucking oh my god this guy that's the real death of a character social issues and media oh that's it we spent 14 minutes getting to there and he'd spent three we did the seconds on it sweet now I'm not mad about that always feels good to have someone on the team that makes us well no no he's always the janitor a bit racist dude oh no Star Wars is racist space challenge is pretty cool in fans yeah look good I'm just saying I think John Boyag is a little more talented than that also the woke ladies plan is kept secret for no reason her plan no reason and doesn't even work or make any sense at all all while touting the theme always trust women but everything about her leadership you know the arguments he's been defending the last of us too with can be used to defend TLJ just saying there's a reason why people constantly compare these two things together I'll just be like dude didn't you hold you're not supposed to take her as the caring the hair and the she represents an idea hope in the face of absolute destruction don't you understand I don't know if he's being unironic here if he's being unironic I appreciate it if he's being ironic we're gonna have wars later hope is like the sun it goes away and leaves you in dark yeah chip skills is raising alarms to any functional thinking person and if you disagree with her or don't like her it's framed in a way to suggest that you the viewer are a sexist the movie is hyper aware of its own existence in a snobby ass way immersion in the Star Wars universe was damaged beyond repair at this moment yep I like the loss of us too huh yeah yeah why doesn't he that for last of us too though that's that's what's surprising because he doesn't have consistent standards that he applies to all pieces of media he would say that and he's given an example with this but he's not giving any examples with the last of us too his arguments yeah yeah precedence over the story and neither make any fucking sense and the last of us too there is no woke lady trying to tell you that you are a sexist there's a woke character okay it's a monster pretty bad I mean I feel like the developers are reaching through the screen and telling me what I need to think and do I can't believe I'm doing this but there's no character in TLJ telling you your sexist it's meta stuff yeah it's always meta stuff last of us too it's all meta she doesn't tell po you're a sexist that's not a thing that happens yeah this is a really bad comparison Jesse's a fucking sperm donor in this game for fuck's sake Jesse's good fool aim I missed it and I never missed that shit because it stops the program dead they're progressive themes in parts of this game that are woven into the narrative in a realistic way it's disconnected from the main narrative that we actually give a shit about though yeah the things are not only not supported they're anti-supported like you have this we're having to play as Abby and you start off and you're like oh my god are we actually going to see like Abby's perspective as Ellie is tearing through her friends right you know it's like a completely different story it's like these characters so it's not this different story it's the last of us part one with some names changed around it the last of us too is like a story that tells you the theme of it is that cheating is bad and you shouldn't do it but throughout the entirety of the game your character cheats and succeeds and wins and isn't bad and they could have only done better if they just cheated more that's not a bad thing if you say this game is woke you did not play this game or you just don't know how to think for your pause no no no no no no no no six minutes left in this video don't do this shit to us janitor don't say something so retarded it's going to take us another 45 minutes to get through come on like in the first few minutes guys we got a lady that says big sandwiches how is that not woke we've got a trend because it's true 25 years deep into the apocalypse who wants to go back and explain to his mother their decision which gets people killed identity politics is the first thing that fucking goes identity politics identity politics is the first thing that will go in an apocalypse it's a fucking luxury it's a luxury it's a luxury like woke or not the story is fucking horseshit I agree with that I mean it could have been woke and it still could have been decently structured I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive and the thing is you could have kept a bigger sandwich here's the thing Leona Kirzner did this video where she talked about how that they get sandwiches line made her more like hyper aware of all the other woke stuff happening in the game if they just don't have that line be one of the first things that you hear coming out of the character's mouth in this game it could have been yeah backlash could have been considerably smaller I'm betting it's both we need to get on the same page about what woke is just because there is a muscular girl in the game and a muscular person does not make it woke being woke them paired together doing the things that they're doing in the setting that they're doing them in is highly fucking suspect no also rags he's ignoring all the other stuff that is woke like the bigot sandwich sequence the sequence with live mom no forgiveness for people who say that sort of stuff yeah woke is when you are pretentious douchebag about social issues but caring about social issues is actually a good necessarily stop butchers signaling me the social issues in this game are raw and real the struggles are not pretty and it's painted as a long this is one of the most artificial games I've ever seen you suggesting if we add blood and death to the thing we're dealing with at hand it's alright now because it's roll seems a little bit weird wrote ahead but Levin ended up being one of my favorite characters in the series why yeah what do they call you explain explain give your fucking reasoning explain move on and that is how you listen and respond to someone who's going through a difficult time there's no lecture there's no hand-fisted speech about morals in society no prying or tell me about the fucking game and why it's good this is the scene here yeah abby's basically supposed to be this role model that we're supposed to aspire to here every approaches her conversation with lev and it's like I don't know if abby if a person in abby's situation who was born after the apocalypse apparently because she's supposed to be 21 in this game or something around that I don't think that she'd be actually like that uber sensitive and self-aware about the feelings of transgender people she'd probably be like whatever they calling you a like a woman or whatever that's kind of this isn't 2018 it's not current year it's not even current year plus you know 14 from now it's um politics would be the first thing that no in a real and raw apocalypse everyone knows that transgender issues would be very very important everybody would know about them they'd be very very very they'd want to pay attention to that stuff are people just unwilling to reconcile with the fact that transgender stuff is kind of confusing to people that have never heard about it before as abby just listen to Dave Chabelle talk about it it's so funny I'm not going to fucking live male to male to survive and you think they're going to give a shit what you want to be called and your pretty little fucking world he spent all this fucking stupid garbage nonsense and he he's talking about how lev is one of the best characters in the series and he hasn't said why he's a bigot he thinks he's a bigot because he's basing his decision he must be basing his decision purely on the character being trans which is bigotry well I don't know about that I just would like to reason the character that could possibly in this series make you say this is the best character one of the best characters in the series nothing the setting of this the setting of this specific game doesn't really make sense for what they're trying to do here with like this is how a true ally will treat a transgender person like if you have it set in like a modern age sure you have a character that's that sensitive but abby why the fuck would she be this sensitive to someone that she like this appears to be the first time she's encountered a transgender person so it's like yeah of course you get boned out by this like I'm sorry I'm not I'm not anti-trans or whatever I'm just but yeah it would weird someone out if this is their first time experiencing this why are they ignoring this fact I don't want to get drawn into this stupid conversation honestly it's like this is almost seems like a big red herring for talking about that and talking about how the game is not shit like he skipped if he doesn't say anything about why lev is one of his favorite characters in the series but instead shows to use up his time to talk about something totally fucking irrelevant and meaningless then it'll match the rest of the video I suppose no rags the game is good because it tackles social issues like this in a nuanced way he seems to be appealing to the whole like it's done in a subtle way and dealt with without being like hamfisted moralizing I was just like I don't see how that characterizes lev very well I barely remembered lev I'd also like to just point out that fat garalt refers to lev as a boy with scars on his face so it's like why is fat garalt a slaver respecting lev's pronouns he looks like a guy so like wouldn't they have done wouldn't they have done like a strip search for like bites or something probably not I don't know I don't think you'd assume that anyone I don't know I just feel like they wouldn't like oh these are people who don't look like they've been bitten and they're acting normal and they're not panicking and they're just being people we have to take all their clothes off and check for bite marks they'd be naked, they'd be starved they'd be broken down yeah I think it depends on what the slaver people do exactly with them do we find out they're not eating them right I'm assuming and the farms that they're around the slave area I think I'm pretty sure if you want to actually be realistic about how people like the rattlers slavers would treat their slaves yeah I think they would do a strip search to make sure that they're not hiding a bite or something and could then bite their other slaves the only people that aren't using the correct pronouns are the seraphites but I feel like a lot more people should be confused about this whole thing yeah it's not about hating love as a character or saying transgender people shouldn't be in the game it's just like wouldn't make more sense that people in the universe were more confused about this because this is a genuinely confusing thing sorry for even folks like myself it weirds me out it would weird me out upon my first time hearing about it like that's confusing but okay taking over the conversation or lecturing the audience love just wanted abby to recognize what he was going through and that's all that was needed maybe in the next game they could include the struggles of what it's like to be a naughty dog employee wait wait wait they actually do talk about it like later on love just bears his soul to abby they do talk about it in the game they she does say she's weird when she's called by her female name right so I don't know like the social thing he's explaining it's not hamfisted it kinda is when you really think about it I wasn't impressed at all with the handling of it I don't think anything was really explored it was in simplistic terms it was a religious cult that tried to hunt love down yeah because we stopped that from happening yeah yeah it's a tough life you don't wanna be a concubine for an elder in the seraphite's deer not really no and that's supposed to be a deep message about trans issues I guess well this is what I mean I feel like they didn't do much with that if that's what they're aiming to do yeah so why is it being praised all the time Mahler I don't know yeah it's so weird this is the most accessible video game ever created for gamers with disabilities oh that's good yeah if you're bad at video games you can just turn on the invisible wild prone mode and just crawl through the whole game yeah um sure I don't know that almost seems like it's an indictment again if someone said this game is great you could beat it even if you're blind I'd be like okay well I mean I'm assuming we're supposed to like assume that if you're blind it's really neat that they've got settings that allow you I'm assuming not fully blind otherwise how does it work oh let's see like do you play only using sound or where are you I wanna hear what this guy says wearing glasses oh fuck this game because it's got disability access sorry where are those youtubers well I mean options being there yeah I mean and I'm happy to agree with that I am curious if there are settings that allow blind people to play like fully blind I'm assuming he's not fully blind I would assume so you might have sort of seen the journey that I have made in blind gamer in this amazing journey that I've been on for the past five years when I say that this is a huge I was thinking how hilarious it would be if the blind gamer Steve's sign was upside down but I thought it would have been more hilarious if he said I played through this game and it had the best functionality for any disabled gamer and I can't thank Naughty Dog enough that said it was shit I really don't wanna come across as an asshole because it's good that this is an accessible game that's a good thing but I feel like you're really starting to kind of scrape the bottom of the barrel for trying to show how great the game is by saying it's accessible to blind people apparently this Steve's Taylor fellow can't see from six inches away or more than six inches away categorizing it accessibility super plus difficulty that's a whole other thing I really don't think generalist people should be putting on the fucking modes that are meant for people who have one finger or some shit it is frustrating at the idea because I just be like are you really, what are you doing? not to say that they all are there's already a few reviews that me and Fringy saw people talking about how they would turn on the accessibility stuff because they couldn't be bothered to look and find the actual things they just wanted to pick them all up immediately I feel like this is kind of on par this game is really really great because it has it has subtitles in Swahili or something I mean yeah it's good that it's accessible in that way so people who only speak Swahili can also enjoy the games can absorb the game's story I just want to try to say this doesn't have any impact on what we're discussing we're not saying this is a bad thing that's cool that's great we're talking about the story we're talking about why we didn't agree with the game direction we're not talking about this sort of element and so bringing this in doesn't prove anything it's not validating his point and it's not knocking our value down it's just there for it's a non sequitur it feels like a non sequitur yeah in a huge career high brought into this beloved of a studio to work on the accessibility of this game this is a huge deal Naughty Dog isn't just acting like they care about minorities they have single handedly paved the path that all video game developers but let's be frank this only how many people does this apply to and does this make the game like better or just I don't really care I think that's better just more accessible that's still a plus in the accessibility category I just I don't yeah it's good I just don't really care other than saying good that it's there well it's like technically groundbreaking might like motivate more developers to add options like use the technology that's this is one of those things the way from the game itself these points yes it's a total red herring yeah it doesn't make sense in the industry if they want to make their video game more accessible to disabled video game players and I hope that we can come back disabled video game players got a better story yeah to this conversation 5 10 years from now and be able to like say that this was just the beginning yeah good that's music yeah I hate the banjo music sometimes in the game though for real is he done without again no Ellie don't go please stay you have a good thing going baby Jesse needs you what are you doing Ellie's trying to leave to go kill Abbey but she needs to Jesse's dead I think he means JJ just yeah yeah that's what he means you need to stay with her family no the story is great that's why he knows her names I thought you put this game on people I don't hey so this is annoying that the people that hate the game know the people in the game more though that was one slip up okay fine anybody well it's at least two a huge complaint I see about the Star Wars sequels is that Rey is a Mary Sue nothing that makes Rey interesting sweet a fucking god if you say well Ellie isn't a Mary Sue we're like what the fuck relevance does this have to anything or is Abbey going to be the Mary Sue is that gonna be what he's gonna say in chat he said he said baby Jesse baby Jesse baby Jesse hey that works good job all right if you you're off the hook the rest of the video she's simply a Mary Sue why Rey stands as a lifeless blatant another cameo literature welcome back watch this video this idea that Rey is a Mary Sue can you really call Rey a Mary Sue petition to change Mary Sue hey how's it going the character Rey in Star Wars the Force Awakens is a Mary Sue yes I agree so Rey is a Mary Sue hey baby what do you agree that Rey was written like a Mary Sue in Star Wars I didn't watch the last Star Wars I don't know who Mary Sue is hey we're getting there it's gonna be a great pair oh Mary Sue is a term it's a term we give to the girl in Star Wars because she doesn't go through enough hardships and she's just like really strong with no explanation we call her Mary Sue because she doesn't make enough mistakes that's what she's gonna do they go through hardship that's why they're okay characters okay good luck oh oh I remember this part I know exactly what he's here to set up okay Parker's gonna forgive Abby okay so does Ellie make mistakes in this yes she does but people aren't really complaining about Ellie are they yes they are there's a lot of complaints for Ellie I have no idea what rock you've been under my dude Ellie's character was assassinated in this is that this game did the unthinkable and made me hate Ellie a character that I found super endearing you know when you guys are talking about like kid characters in the first part of 100 like Ellie was my favorite like kid character with John Connor being like a very close second okay and Ellie just edged him out just because I get more time with her than I get with John Connor which is you know unfair apples oranges I get it and this game made me fucking hate her especially seeing the way that she treats Joel seeing how for two years she basically disowns him doesn't talk to him and he doesn't seem to take into consideration what she means to him and why he would do what he did to save her life just a fucking horrible cruel person like what you said south the speech she gave to Joel how much Joel means to her and they just ignore that in the second game right yeah she's an asshole and an idiot through this game she guilt trips Joel into and she's going to stay with her and then he does so and then she abuses him for it she is just like a a pit of a toxic woman right there so does Abby make mistakes does she go through hardships who's saying that she does no why are we talking about this she's a horrible person that's what people are saying they're not saying that she never fails hardships of course she does I'm kind of waiting to pull it but is he actually being like there's Mary Sue and Star Wars not in this though and Mary Sue is a category of problem were those hardships related to her killing Joel were they a consequence of her killing Joel did she ask you again I want to stress it's like talking about like oh Deus Ex Machina is in this but it's not in this again that's just a category of problem listen it doesn't matter if it's in this one what are you talking about they beat the fucking shit out of this girl I could not believe the amount of pain and suffering and violence these women go through and inflict on others and it just keeps going it somehow gets worse and worse and worse all the way up to the final showdown which is so dark I felt sick while playing this part you're sick Naughty Dog you're a twisted company you just put out a piece of media they make me feel physically ill I have no idea why this game isn't being celebrated why are we addressing well I'm waiting to get to it I feel like we're building to something right alright here we go I hear the music ramping up yeah we're building and building it's gonna get a pay off if you played this entire game and you came out of it still wanted to kill Abby you didn't play this game this game Naughty Plays fucking game Abby is a terrible horrible person she's a murderer she deserves you played the theme of the game does not mess with match with what actually happens you got played bitch Givness has never developed they just throw that out their final bit it's like hey it's about forgiveness actually it's like no it's always been about revenge it was really shitty and Moller the thing you said Deus Ex Machina I would argue that seeing that vision at the final moment of the game where it's barely even set up I think that's kind of Deus Ex Machina I'm sure people who love this game would argue it was triggered by her bringing someone so close to death or something like that Joel memory that's the funny thing is she was like she saved Abby's life and then she gets that flashback she's like oh no I kill you and then she gets another flashback she's like no I no kill you it's like and this was Joe Joe would fucking kill her I will say the game absolutely did play all of us when they showed in the trailer that Joel was going to be there and be like you think I'd let you do this on your own and it turns out to be a good one did you look at the box art because you should have known yeah that's true she's not on the box art so what could you expect they're doing the thing again where they keep the people that defend the last of us do keep saying that if you don't want to forgive Abby you didn't play it right that's what they say they're like you didn't point of the ending and it's like I watched her channel she said that donkey says that this guy says that it cannot possibly be the case that the people that made the game did a terrible job at conveying their points and convincing people that Abby was a person that didn't deserve to die it can't possibly be the artist's fault for doing a shitty job with communicating their theme no it's frustrating because thank you for all the talk of empathy they don't seem to empathize well with people that seem to don't like this game for all the talk about subjectivity it seems like these people don't believe in death of the author and think that the author's intent is the interpretation that everyone should go along with we don't have to go to death of the author right I mean I'm just saying like we're allowed to have our own interpretations of the content right and if our interpretation is that Abby still deserves deserves to die it shouldn't matter if the author's intent is no you should like her by now and spare her game played you game played you if you played this entire game and you came out of it still wanted to kill Abby you didn't play this game this game played you you have outed yourself as a possible incel and the FBI is on their way oh why are you insulting people you're an incel if you think that's how I like to play this guy it's a non incel come on dude the gameplay was amazing, immersive and all in service to the story being told okay so here we go somebody actually talked about so the mechanics from what I saw were not consistent they didn't look fun the game was immersive in the sense that they were not fun but I felt like it was a bunch of crazy people in the world that is actually real I was about to say that dodge function that he's showing right now that is really inconsistent it sucks repetitive too especially in this fight scene I've had multiple people say the gameplay in the first one is better especially in terms of combat definitely heard it's better I heard that they spent seven years or whatever making it worse so the gameplay was fine I didn't think it was great I didn't think it was terrible I just thought it was fine it's fine but the story sucks so everything goes down yes but you don't play the last of us for the gameplay you play the last of us for the stories it's a narrative game that's what we're really here for you want that next bit of story you want that next bit of plot development characterization the gameplay elements they just are a means to the end all next with a game like this I feel some premium Godel with the fucking incel comments like the scored audio mixing was next level this is a game that must be played alone in the dark at 3am with headphones on for the true gamer experience this game was revolutionary and interactive media make no mistake I just don't care that blind people can play it I just don't give a shit it's good for them I hope more games do it but it doesn't make the game better it just makes the game more accessible and if we have to talk about it's gotta be sure what we're talking about in terms of story does nothing in terms of mechanics it does nothing in terms of accessibility it's amazing fantastic, excellent, good job more games should do that absolutely but that doesn't have anything to do with the game itself and I feel like if you have to go to that to try and show how a game is good you're really really stretching for points just have that scene I'm not sure I know what his point is I don't have any points so a blind person can play it so that makes the game good and the test of time if you follow my twitter you know this game sent me on an emotional roller coaster that's what Naughty Dog set out to do after Joel stepped up a little bit gameplay too, gameplay too he didn't play the game, the game played you see I can do it too we can all do it, it doesn't mean anything you're not clever so easy to get caught so they're the outraged youtubers, what are you you're the right one right yeah, you just seem like the time you brought the pros you brought the pro arguments you destroyed those outraged youtubers replaced every single character with white men make every character a white man it's still garbage it's still a garbage story yeah I love that he's like he's talking about the characters actions and he's showing Abbie beating Dina's head really I'm glad she was trying to get a fucking multi kill that's like a good deal moment right there can you believe this guy can show that scene and be like yeah if you still wanted to kill Abbie at the end of this then you're wrong also he's appealing to the whole I did media blackout and I took the characters for what they were and I thought it was great it's like okay let me just go go Derek and he's like yeah it's like did you do media blackout and he's like yeah did you like it, no I thought it was shit okay there we go I'm glad we did that argument destroys we'll probably never be made like this again thank god may you please be correct on that let's hope they learn their lesson I suppose oh my friend on discord is listening on and he has cat pee gamer shout out to cat pee he has this very good observation about the video the video is why didn't Ellie have damage tattooed on her forehead the last of us to review where is his review it's all towards people reacting to the game this is a really shitty review of a game I learned basically nothing about the game it's apparently this is a the last of us to review in the title right there I would like if you asked me to name this I'd be like oh my god more of a commentary like last of us to release commentary I don't know what I was like cool it it's kind of like I hate everything's video on the last Jedi where it's more so about like how the fans reacted to it rather than the game itself it's like it's an angry about the game it's just so little of it like is reviewing it or like pointing to examples it's like a Chris Duckman root that's 13 minutes of fuck you before you even got to anything and then he said two things and they was like here he's one guy incidents in fact I don't even know what I'm talking about my frontal lobes talking too much about you that's the part of the brain that makes you feel empathy so 0 out of 10 game fucking sucked yay good there we go and now it's not 0 it's kind of like a 2 come on man you've been too harsh give it a 2 I gave it a 4 out of 10 so okay okay oh that's not a 0 that's pretty high we didn't put it in the video the video played us I have been bamboozled oh my god happy game played a nice simple story the characters the retcon of the story it's like a 10 fuck it well played janitor I'm happy to put it at 3 I think was the score but I've decided on based on watching it 3 is fair score I would give it lower personally on like a subject of level but 3 is fine no it it feels like a 2 to me because even though if you like the gameplay the story just brings everything down well the game looked great it is a beautiful looking game there's no denying it it's a beautiful looking game the world looks awesome the environments are really interactive and dynamic so in that regard it's lovely the character model is good the acting for the most part is very good so that's kind of where it scored positively the gameplay isn't terrible like I said it's not great it's not terrible so that's kind of where the bulk of the 4 points come from and then not for story yeah and he said some about joining but right now I'm running on fumes I am so fucking tired maybe if probably maybe something later we could talk about a terrible video maybe in 2 hours ish from now is the possible best I could do because we gotta do something else with the momentum in 2 hours I'm gonna be thrashed yeah Mahler is it okay if I give janitor your discord id so that you can contact him sure or he can contact you I guess alright cool sorry you don't have to contact him back come on I mean look I'm sure the guy is lovely but that video was fucking atrocious and the way that he spoke about people essentially you don't have the same opinion as me you're a dickhead go fuck off dude fuck off if you wanna know yeah it was a really shitty video that was pretty bad pretty worthless if I have a problem with the thing I'm reviewing I don't usually tell the people who liked it that they're dumb or you're stupid I just shit on the thing right I don't understand why everyone has to bait or say that the other side is wrong does that make sense I'm making the argument that what I am talking about is bad this was meant to be a review and he spent 13 minutes telling people that disagree with him that there were fucking incels and terrible people and shitty and this isn't how you should feel don't tell me how I should fucking feel about something if you want to make a review make a review put your points on the table and justify them I don't know if he justified one fucking point in that video not one apart from he's a blind guy he can play the game we all agree that's great yeah that's good but that's not the game this is a game review the accessibility is not the game itself and the whole thing about all leves one of my favorite characters in the series it doesn't say anything about why waste time talking about some trans thing I don't fucking give a shit about it's like man fucking amazing magical the story of how we got his sister killed because he was a selfish twat it's great it's stunning and brave somebody dying DC trailer ever or from what I heard there's copyright we can't play it on the stream yeah don't do it but the IGN trailer is I advise everyone to watch the Batman trailer at least it is so good great trailer alright it's not bad the funny thing is some guy on twitter pointed out that there was this kid that oh I don't want to spoil it but it's a good trailer everyone should watch it first alright also I gotta I guess I will just boot all of you out I am so sorry fuck off thank you very much dude congratulations on EFAP 100 yeah before that apparently today is Hideo Kojima's birthday and Kobe Bryant's birthday wow no wonder I can't understand anything yeah thank you all for coming the EFAP community should be proud audience thank you so much for being awesome you guys are great supporting everyone in rags thank you all very much you take care guys bye bye thank you for having me on it's always great being here on EFAP and I'm glad to have helped cover the janitor's video same here yeah it was interesting thank you lads for coming on I will catch you around in the future perhaps excellent good bye so many people to remove disgusting horrible how you doing there rags you still alive I'm good yeah I'm alive what are we at 5 6 o'clock I got it it is almost it is basically noon for me it is noon it is the middle of the next day we're climbing that ladder of staying awakeness at least you didn't have the ladder of shitting and puking this morning what happened is a toxic pizza or something okay I got a serious bone to pick with fucking dominoes that Alfredo pasta may have been one of the worst things I've tasted actually the worst thing I've tasted all year you gotta understand it is very difficult to get me sick the last time I remember throwing up was two years ago after a bad dab and I don't remember the last time before that you dab so hard you dabbed on the haters so hard that you threw up you've not done that? we'll go with that interpretation like in metal the last time I threw up was recently well the last time technically last time I threw up was this morning when I woke up and felt like a corpse I was just like I couldn't move my body because I felt any position was just bad and then I had the worst sensation in the world where I both felt like I had to shit really bad and felt like I had to throw up really bad you know which one I had to do more because you can't just well take a shit and then in the middle of the shit feel like you have to throw up right? you could like alright so I don't want to like get up turn around and like turn sideways right and then you could throw up into the throw up into the get a bucket you got a bucket right you didn't have a bucket then man you gotta plan ahead gotta have a a vomit bucket well I'm sure there's a vomit bucket somewhere but it wasn't in that bathroom but I decided I needed to puke more and that's how it went and I don't think I'm ever going to order dominoes ever again for the rest of my life and they ruined it for you? have you ruined chicken alfredo for you for the rest of forever? well I didn't like alfredo in the first place but now I really don't like alfredo Jesus Italian hate season wow so I got food poisoning from crab cakes once and that was years and years and years ago and it took me I don't even know if I can eat them now my body's just like oh I know what's going on here I remember this no sir nope well at least it's not like a big deal because I stopped liking dominoes pizza after working for them for three years and the only thing I still liked was the pasta well now they've ruined the pasta so now I can not go there ever again and not feel bad about it hallelujah yeah only problem is that the only other place that sells decent pasta is pizza hut and well I can't do that not with the people there so one by one much like dominoes all the pizza places you like are falling down I guess I'm just going to have to make my own pasta which isn't exactly a bad thing it's just more effort than I want to put into jump into that link you see I've got something a little sort of thingy just thrown together where it's like this is you know August 23rd probably is actually the technically the anniversary of the back end of one of the first e-fap assuming we went over midnight I can't remember I wouldn't know how could I find out stuff like that I'm not a wizard be the way um do you guys remember episode one it was a while ago like in a minute in a minute no no no also you both in by the way I am oh I'm in jump jump on in it's just like a little sort of holy shit one to one hundred sort of thing sort of be amusing just check out how episode one went you know all that time ago and maybe collect some of the some of the pieces of it that were maybe more amusing than but um hello all is it up for you both oh my god it's e-fap watching e-fap from two years ago oh my god look at how unprofessional and bright our thing was oh my god it's good screens and you know even people will be here for us as well but I mean but mainly I'm mainly just gonna play this thing we don't actually have to e-fap it is what happened people has grown twice as size some time left plenty of horrifying events that people has had to deal with it it grows his power to protect us from such events oh no yeah we'll have um new e-fap commenting on old e-fap uh chat dude can you imagine if we could go back in time and then show old e-fap new e-fap reviewing old e-fap oh that's see that's peak e-fap right there what you just described we'll get that one day one day we're doing a thing today this very beautiful man's gonna hahahaha he's brilliant oh you know what's gonna be bad he's gonna share his perspective on having friends why is this bad shirtless hahahaha the play button I see he's hahahaha I didn't know he converted to hinduism well which seems really strange is that a safe on the right hand side of the screen oh my god what is that I think that's actually like the back of a monitor it might wow my audio quality was shit I'm going to choose to interpret that it's a safe this video is actually a positively received it's a free app you can download but you have to do a bunch of shit like it's complicated um but yeah he can watch literally anything for free it's amazing is that legal hahahaha it's also important to note there is no link in the description I figured it out hahahaha yeah he figured this thing out where he was like getting money from banks by taking knives to people and just asking them wait wait he's got that criminal smile hahahaha fuck she forgot the name of the movie you're viewing hahahaha hahahaha someone in the chat said his mental capacity has only degraded since then it's been so long I remember when I was like going to Tarzan hahahaha you know the different Star Wars characters and I was just he just it's the it's the thing where it's like he's beginning his review and he just says like so I went to target with my mom and it's like wait what the hell hahahaha hahahaha he gets to the movie but let me talk to you about going to target with my mom hahahaha oh my god look at that face he's making hahahaha I love how he decides to do this in the middle of his video I think most people gravitated towards the um Force Awakens because I don't know why that is but hahahaha the reason he's like I think people gravitated towards this movie is because I don't know why that is hahahaha hahahaha like sometimes you forget that his sentence is contradicted so hahahaha I cannot believe looking back that this guy in total is the reason why this show exists yep it's uh it's quite the throwback halloween pumpkin hahahaha like these two I get ready to go training hahahaha well I mean he's already got a good costume hahahaha it's fucking been there since halloween hahahaha hahahaha you know for next year hahahaha hahahaha I don't know why he did not fuck get in the safe hahahaha though the safe is where he keeps all the half eaten yoyos hahahaha oh the half eaten yoyos oh yeah I'm turning a treat it's how he ate it he always starts a new yoyo hahahaha that's the only thing I regret from deleting all my other videos is that one stream with the three of us fringy and watching him review TLJ that was one of the best streams I think well definitely the best stream I did on my channel half eaten yoyo it's a national treasure dude I saw someone reference the cornstarch video oh yeah see that's locked only in people's memories it's like could they trust it really happened I don't know the thing is I don't even think I could find that cornstarch video what's weird is that I was sent to the cornstarch video the person who made the cornstarch video and I to this day don't know why they sent me that hahahaha it goes for a second hahahaha when it comes to remakes and stuff like that hahahaha he hasn't talked about the fucking movie at all hahahaha I haven't seen a lot of old star wars movies all the way through because I felt like George Lucas was somewhat of a tryhard and he turned hahahaha I missed Jared he's like ok he's about to deliver a criticism of the ot he's like we're ready let's go and he's like George Lucas is a tryhard he's a director's attitude actually was kind of creeped out by the stormtroopers I thought they were just scared hahahaha jesus the stature was just scary hahahaha hahahaha I think it was a little high then the stormtroopers spooked him anyways guys I know I didn't really rungu hahahaha it's just like the six and a half minute mock he says I know I haven't reviewed the film hahahaha hahahaha I love how he's just grinning like he knows what a shit face he is I can't even title it that hahahaha I remember after you put in the title as it's rendering you didn't have to call this the force awakens for me hahahaha you could have called this I don't know George Lucas is a tryhard he did the same thing in his last gen I ended it in like six different areas he'd be like oh well you know as a Jared aficionado when he says anyway guys that's the signal for the end of the video anyway guys he says anyway guys when he's ending it we've still got a while left you can still enjoy a movie without watching all of it if you really enjoy it if you find yourself really captivated to it there's just something about it you know when you have that feeling where you're just really captivated that's when you should watch it all did you just say but this is a film that really captivates it's like apparently not you just picture him debating just right and then he's like why do you watch the whole movie message the chat the cat pee gamer autism with the thighs in the mouth hahahaha I don't know which chat to pay attention to they're both funny hahahaha he actually like changes just right's mind anyways guys I hope you enjoyed this there you go that's the second ending I hope you guys enjoyed it was 3 minutes left we did exactly the same thing in the last vid I have to keep an eye I want to see if we get a food anyway guys what happens with this next Star Wars movie you know it should be interesting because um it just it just just dig deep man god you just cut why can't you cut he would have rendered this video why can't you cut can't you cut like just cut there's an authenticity to the unparalleled by any other youtuber because he is so honest that he will literally pick his nose and clean out his ears and drink right in front of you with his safe in the background with his little pumpkin there with his baby wipes on his dresser you bring she has two of you bring all this shit up and he's just like I don't understand what's the problem so there's no there's no problem no problem is that a fucking cat in the hat thing right right by the the red bin yeah I think it is very likely with the big green dinosaur in the far right corner it's like I see your reader Jared you have any favorite authors he's like yes Dr Seuss ridiculous I think I need to blow my nose but that's like one of my favorite bits ever he just looks around I forgot how insane the back of his head is because it's already like we look at his hair right here and it's like it couldn't possibly be worse but it's just like a pyramid sticking out from the back of his head like you'd see in an anime or on an Egyptian cave painting oh yeah like some like really overdone anime hair or actually they probably fit better into like those really shitty what's that fucking terrible show called devs no it's a cartoon I know er hates it and j no no it's another one it's got like gay rock people or something gay rock people someone in the chat's gotta know Smurfs gay I'm sorry I'm not on my quickest right now you go Steven Universe that's the one rock people I see I knew that gay rock people was gonna get people to know what I'm talking about dwarf juice how everyone do what I was talking about I guess that's all we need to pause I have to say though that I really did enjoy that dude that fucking what's his name the guy with the long hair Darth Vader's son or no no it's he Darth Vader's son he caught himself he caught himself took him a while but he remembered that Luke was Darth Vader's the way his pause right now would be like one of those renaissance paintings oh do you remember that the actual photoshop of that I think it shows up in the supercar drone a genie service or something he was also in the last Jedi I I would I would assume Jarradi Moondi remember that Force Awakens guys listen you're letting your nostalgia make you that way this new Force Awakens whether or not it stayed true to the roots of Star Wars I mean it's kind of a yeah just to live and watch yeah take off this desulgent goggles this movie was great the fucking special effects Kylo Ren was in it some of the chats of the first James Moore donation there'd be a lot of firsts for that stream time accepting change that's what it all boils down to they don't want an inch of anything moved you know they don't want an inch of anything changed an inch of anything he just said the same thing twice it's wonderful I love it same sentence twice it's all jacket a swirl that I said that before anyways guys there's a little side anyways guys what is that number 5 now it's gonna be the real one though anyways guys thanks for watching so six times the ending is really awesome you haven't seen the ending you've seen it if you haven't seen it you know what I'm talking about actually caught himself Luke Skywalker plays a very short role and trust me when I tell you that he didn't have to study his lines very hard because he doesn't exactly say anything what's this it's a true joke should we look at this this is me oh that's the male he's with I'll be three options I remember us losing our shit they're in this one dude what I've got off a zoom so it plays videos and I hover over things temporarily and I hover over this it's like the Jared video you can see it on my stream is that him is that his name tonelook despite us all being on the same side before he became toneled I don't agree with that vile ass consul fanboys out there they fucking hate our guts ultimately we all agree and rags like I disagree with that there's some vile ass mother fuckers out there he won't even suffer because he didn't buy the right corporation game box oh yes we are so segregated in this 82 billion dollar world but it's self segregation so it's okay right that's like saying you're segregated by choosing to go to the gym instead of swimming or something you're segregating yourself between the people at mcdonald's and you at the gym because you meet your major choice and the people at the gym chose wrong I don't know he's probably just trying to make it sound a bit more doom and gloomy than I get I know that no I can't know from tonelook come on tonelook what a stupid fucking I'm not so sure that sony is in the position to sell a huge more amount of the playstation 4 a huge more amount than damn son 4k TVs are common but they're not too common and even still dude how did he just say that instead of going oh the first good deal comments the original totalisms what I'm doing right now is just like taking notes of the funniest things he says because they're just going to be my april fools video it's about emphasis like they're common but they're not too common he needs to know which words to put huge more emphasis on that's one kink in the wrench for sony right kink in the wrench called the malifor which is an unintentional blended idiom that's the only link that I could find for it so he unintentionally said something that might be correct he said it wrong but because enough people say it wrong one website shows it as a thing that people say that's wrong but didn't he just talk about in the beginning of the video about how it's bad that that's a thing that happens anyway maybe he's trying to like maybe he's rags.exe is still making that what does this have anything to do with what he just said this is fast becoming one of my favorite memes with the SA people they just play a cut scene thing that just doesn't matter and two years later that has not changed absolutely weird nothing to do not changed except for tonal it can jump anything from overwatch to seven days to die to fucking anything you might pick it up for a few bucks cheaper here and there depending on what version he punches punching wood he literally cut to god of war punched nothing, walked forward, now he's walking back did you even look at your footage dude I love these editing visuals the xbox one awesome I have to make a video about the playstation currently runs $350 what are you doing this asian guy's expression is exactly what everyone who just watched that part of the video should be thinking were they supposed to be looking at something son jared son jared jared jumpscare he comes literally if you guys look on the stream he comes right above our heads oh god so let's unpack this so he has used q-tips is that a nail filer with two foil on top is that a popsicle stick oh my god why would you begin it that way I forgot how hideous this desk is scissors he has it's like thin black masking tape or something he has a he has a crayon he has a crayon is that a pink highlighter back there I think it was probably like a pink pen is that the handle for a screwdriver the red it might be it looks like a small screwdriver he has so many things I've never seen so many q-tips it's like they're used look man oh god I can't wait for the skeleton part not even like throw it away but next time I get up take them with me next time I get up I mean you gotta understand well I'm glad that we I mean in the last podcast I was like I wonder what is other wall look at least we're finally getting that this is behind the scenes shit right here okay now you're seeing what we're seeing this child like it's already perfect why does it look like part of the door has been burned three seconds I don't know if I can do it what's that on the wall skeleton it's got like fucking symbols on it that's some black magic shit there's symbols on it what do you think that means it means he's trying to fucking summon something from the ether first one to admit I'm not the brightest bulb in the pack that doesn't really bother me though because I know I gots the swagger damn oh there's his head again look at the door I know you know why you know why that's there right it's because of his hand he closes the door he pulls it closed with his hand whenever he leaves or goes and so you do that enough and that's what your door will look like I'm serious like check that's why there's a mark there because he grabs the door by his hand and you do that a thousand times and it leaves a mark oh my god look at the light switch there's not a cover on the light switch he still shows up on hover zoom even though we went past the downward thrust video I'm fascinated at his lack of cleanliness the Jarrett lore is so complex even his door has his own side store dude he got 100k views once upon a time good for him oh wait that's you very use notice I don't know what that's all about I think I think it's safe to assume it's a fair use notice oh he has to warn people that he's not being a troll even though he's being a troll no I'm not sure the conflagration let me just say that I wasn't looking that well that day I probably just threw him in the last one dude that door that's so crazy all the hot wheels are just stapled to his I think we're about to comment on that so I told baller a bit about this I've been watching the chris chan documentary on youtube and looking back at this Jarrett video the similarities between him and chris chan are eerily have that thing no but he did have a bunch of shit on his like it's going back and like looking at this he was literally becoming chris chan he's like a step away aside from the not being transgender yet amazing everyone in the chat should go watch the chris chan documentary it's legitimately some of the best content I've seen on youtube I binge watch the whole thing in like a week that's enough I can't believe that background is so funny dark spots all around guys guys guys guys he's got teenage mutant ninja tail figurines attached to the wall no oh shit those are hot wheels are they hot wheels? those are hot wheels see the logo the reason I feel like this is a green he's attached them to the wall they're not even straight he's just like glued hot wheels hard packages to the wall that's insane how does this man exist oh my god how does this happen dude the idea he puts the first one up and it took a while he had to do it with the ruler the second one he was just like oh fuck it dude the idea he puts the first one up and it took a while he had to do it with the ruler the second one he was just like oh fuck it it's too much counting hello punky j hi rags this is why I believe hi rags there it is oh my god is that where it came from Jared started the hi rags oh my goodness well I mean on law Jared is the first one to say hi rags oh my goodness gracious he lives on in hi rags I didn't remember that I forgot our own law next box one only costs 300 dollars still overpriced let's be frank he's someone right he's someone right he's someone right he's someone right he's someone right if I could go out box one right now for 100 dollars I would only do it we're getting so close that's shallow that's really shallow shallow rags shallow rags I would have made 200 dollars what else is he going to go into let's see all his pictures okay so he's going to respond to you based on the pictures but that's what I grew up on homie and the fact that he's got swagger of course he's calling us homie I'm sorry to call us homie with the digitels it seems to me that punky jay would rather go to game stop to buy a game you oh here it is spend five more dollars and support the developer instead or not he's exactly right exactly right who's fucking shallow dude awesome video yeah Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles but man that he's so and that means that recently he's been watching Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoons on YouTube dude imagine putting that together as a profile it's like this person is interested in a nostalgia critic, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Steven Crowder, what does this say it's like I don't know and then the thing is like the person that you're imagining in your head totally wrong I don't care what you think it's totally wrong, you ain't guessing this he's got a skeleton I want to see what's under his desk oh no skeleton he's like chicken leg I was going to say it falls into two categories living and not living organic I used to have a boyfriend who would only oh my god he's a queer he's like he's like he's like oh my god oh my god there it is I'm all exploring he's so queer he's a queer oh my god he sounded so disgusting oh my god still not very big first off, thickness is way more important than length but if you're playing on a gaming laptop that's debatable not when you can buy monitors he took you so seriously I was like in a dick joke oh my god actually if you consider a monitor you guys have to realize that console gamers we don't know a lot of shit that PC gamers do because we're not really friends really just you know there's a whole argument I've been making you have to account for the fact that we don't have all the facts I was just thinking imagine a random person who's watched my videos catches this stream and it's like me wolf and rags responding to a guy responding to rags responding to him they're just like what? and now it's us responding to us responding to Jared responding to rags responding to Jared next year next year we can just add on another layer it's just like this doesn't start worse in the end there were a lot of clothes-minded people it doesn't matter if I sound fool did he just say it's all about opinions and then he said actually it's clothes-minded people I think what he really meant to say was clothes-minded people oh yeah people wear clothes not that I do because the truth of the matter is I'd rather be an idiot than someone who's just clothes-minded you know arrogant and just really really sarcastic you know sarcastic asshole and that's why you barely played me in this video I don't know if people are gonna really have that impression of me because I kind of am but I don't know if you really put across that because you barely actually play me speaking has there ever been a good sentence that began with I would rather be an idiot than than a queer since those two years yes I have gone to PC as well but I'm also a console gamer I do not believe either one is better and quite honestly it's like I've gone to PC I told them I told them he looked like he was in the renaissance put that on the stream oh the first time please tell her you first tweeted that oh wow that's beautiful guys look at how the memes began this is the this is your history this is where this is your history you did this two years ago we're talking about evolution you see the super meme and you're like where did it all start and you see this picture of Jared photoshopped on top of Kylo Ren this is where it began this is not even well photoshopped it's just to fix your laugh oh man how the times have changed sorry I'm just looking at the chat and there's so many Jared memes there's Jar Wars Jared Binks General Jerry Darth Genesis I need a pond in Japan Jared Buck the thing is I could believe Darth Genesis the Jar Wicked Jar Wicked Sky Genesis we are going Genesis I don't have a twitterer put it in the discord behold oh the first e-man game play wow that's good that's pretty good that's legitimately really good it was already an e-fab episode one that we were impressed by the memeage jeez now they're making basically movies I want to go back in time and show old us all the shit that people make for us now just watch our old selves minds getting blown if you told me that 20 minute meme would exist back then I would have not believed you no no we're gonna cut it there folks so we're gonna end it there yeah I think so that was a good 4 hours or so 4 hours yeah and there was plenty what is it with us in just 4 hours shows all the time other than that I guess we'll be going so goodbye fair well 4 hours show crazy what were we thinking wow I was wow back when 4 hours was the norm it's crazy that is wild yeah that was episode 1 it's been a while we came a long way you know that had 2 zeros on to it back when we didn't even have any plans on making a podcast nope I want to say it was an episode 3 that we were like hey should we do this one I think so 3ish around 3 2 3 4 it could have been 2 cause 2 is plot holes and plot holes was like holy shit yeah it was somewhere like 2 or 3 they were like alright guys choose our name every frame of pause everyone was gonna be video response theory video response theory is a good one but efap is that's one strong name survive through the ages figure for old times sake we could check out a toy story series review sounds exciting right I'm okay with that length and author shall be revealed in a moment let me use the loop I'll be right back in just a second in that case we'll just chill out for a bit yeah alright I should do some calculation where are we I believe we did 211.5 hour streams which means you're almost at the 24 if you're not already imagine we passed that I don't even know anymore you started at 9 my time yesterday which was 4 hours ago 22 23 27.5 which means I gotta do 2.5 and then we hit the finish line I bet everyone thought that we weren't gonna be able to beat last years well look at me now mom we'll probably check that out and then get some people in and I imagine we're just gonna have a chat I'm afraid folk erones with super chats rags and I will do a huge big thing for it we'll just put them all in one giant thing I'm not entirely sure how we did this this year because I think that the third part of last years one was almost all super chats outside of meme videos oh people are asking about jays hopefully once we once we watch this toy story series review we're gonna try and grab jay and it'll just be a handful of people who are available we did what we could I think EFAP 100 was a success I have to admit personal highlight was tonal I'm too biased I know it's just hard to oh yeah that was wonderful how are you gonna one up tonal going forward gonna have to like get um I don't know trump Alex Jones Tommy Wiseau yeah these are the kind of guest people are gonna be asking for so what else can we do um I wonder if there's anybody who stayed up for the the full thing I don't it's not me asking for everybody to wave their hand and chat or anything I'm just I was just curious it's been a trip did the last the last of us to the didn't do any joke did some did some Star Wars some we did we read out the Chris Stockman script that was good shit bringing was having so much fun Oh the BVS one yeah Batman he was just losing his shit I remember reading that when he originally like put it out there and thinking why would you ever release this to the public I only ever found out I think when I met for any reference to like I don't know how I missed it because that shit was hilarious the snap neck thing I knew about the meme before I even read it tell that to Zod neck why would you write that he in that video was bragging about it like I wrote this in 20 minutes like yeah I can tell well like that is his film quality has not improved since that script Oh did you see which one did you see the what was it called notes from Melanie right yeah yeah I think we did a reaction to that I don't know if he's done anymore yet um we'll be eager to see it I like they should give him a DC movie preferably BVS remake preferably the scene where they fight do it you know I'll take that back he is a little bit better than tell that to Zod snap neck I can't or at least I can't remember any embarrassing lines like that and notes for Melanie well like he um as far as I'm aware anyway he like said that that script was bad and he's like oh alright well we see that's to it yeah instead of being like I think he originally was like defensive over it first came out but all I ever knew was a super defensive reaction to the red lab media thing which was Larry's we didn't we were thinking of showing that on eFab 100 we ran out of time but that's okay are you guys ready for a Toy Story series review oh yeah I'd love hell yeah let's do it here we go was a surprise what's up guys I want to review Toy Story series 1, 2 and 3 we gotta pause this how did you how did you find this it's all he's got a whole channel he hasn't stopped Tazzy no well no he hasn't made anything for like ages but oh this was uploaded in 2017 alright so this is one of the channels that he didn't play porn on to get banned from YouTube yeah this is I think it's Brother Genesis but um I'm super curious what kind of porn he would play I don't want to know series 1, 2 and 3 he's reviewing a Toy Story that's pretty cool so let's I mean this is fascinating the bed still those foam mats no sheets remember when it was a plastic table this is better it's a relatively better you can see the floor the problem is that all of the dirtiness from his room has been absorbed by his shirt what the fuck it looks like he spilled oh yeah it looks like he threw up on it and kept wearing it for days well he's done that before he's gone like a week wearing the same shirt over and over and over and over again you can check by the thumbnails you can see their color coordinated because he keeps wearing the same shirt and then every like 7 days he's not wearing a shirt because that was laundry day and so he just went that day without wearing a shirt I find so fascinating is that this is actually the most normal his hair has ever looked yeah it actually is shopping it that sounds you know we had the incident thing called the conflagration like would this be prior or the room I mean like the event that took place that did stuff change things move things around well here's Jared's room presents with us an ecological dilemma and that if you wash it with water you're going to eventually pollute the rivers and streams if you burn it you're going to pollute the air so you don't really know what to do so you just sort of leave it where it is did I ever tell you guys about the big gas spell at the gas station I used to work at a couple years back no I don't think so oh so I worked at a gas station for about 9 months I hail it and there is this guy who the guy who comes in with the truck to fill up the station with more gas that is and he did not accurately put the safeguards in place that are supposed to cap it off before it overflows and he sat in his truck on his phone for 3 minutes while the gas overflowed and just drenched, not drenched it it turned the whole parking lot into this like pond of gas that was a spelled like industry it's truly great it was really great trying to get the smell out of my car for the weeks following and he tried using a hose to spray the gas into a drain nearby and the fire department was very very unhappy about that it was a relevant story that must have been really interesting to see that much gas everywhere it was a real colorful oh yeah on a hot summer day with the sun beaming down on the gas I was like what's happening what happened I went out to the guy and I asked him what the hell happened and he was like oh it's just a small mistake and I was like this does not look like a small mistake it was 200 gallons of gasoline what's a big mistake he does not have that job anymore it's because there was a big mistake it was a very very big mistake yes so anyway a toy story series one two three amazing shit I love this stuff really good man especially toy story one toy story the first one I think was the best I still like two and three two was a little bit weird it was kind of like I don't know you mainly just saw Woody and the new characters the girl, the cowboy girl and what was that other guy some fat old guy and the horse and of course the creepy cock you know what the horse and the horse and of course the creepy cock you know that the cock toy collector creepy cock toy collector that's wonderful it's just it is interesting I mean it's funny especially when Buzz Lightyear what is it like they're in that store in Buzz's they're looking for Buzz and there's like a bunch of Buzz Lightyear's and shit it's just really funny oh yeah oh yeah he's such a like genuine reviewer what can you say it's just pouring out from his mind every single thought yeah Buzz I think becomes evil Buzz and I enjoyed that a lot but Toy Story 2 wasn't really my favorite I actually like 3 in 1 better Toy Story 3 was very bizarre as well and I didn't like how Andy was talking that was pretty fucked up even though you know he didn't know they were real it's still fucked up you know what I mean just I don't think it was right how they did that but I think it's still told an important story an important story and I think it was also very symbolic I think that there was like an Illuminati Illuminati Illuminati symbolic message to this like with prison camps we're getting dark over here it's been a while since I've seen any of the Toy Story movies what the hell is he talking about people are lost on that one prison camps and things like that plus I did like that pink bear whatever his name was and what was that other creepy thing like weird ass baby fucking it was a weird movie actually was quite weird but that's probably why I liked it because I'm a weirdo myself but anyways Toy Story I mean what's not to hate about this movie it's just it's hilarious it's not to hate about it if you were talking about Toy Story 4 I might agree with that yeah Buzz Woody has such an ego and his little alpha male personality couldn't handle Buzz when he first showed up and he wanted to find a way to kill him and get rid of him those are two very different things one of that crazy kids house let's talk about Sid Sid is awesome I love Sid as a character I can't fathom why he would be why he would look up to Sid as a character oh my god I cannot believe that I've never heard anyone in the world refer to Sid as awesome just as so much about him someone for everyone crazy fucking kid he was such a badass and he brought a lot of edge to the show and I thought it was hilarious how they made him a fucking garbage man in the third one if you notice that Sid as the garbage man in Toy Story 3 he's so proud that he read that from some place that it took precedent over everything basically everything else in the reviews and stuff I'd be surprised to notice that himself but still proud I didn't notice that but then again it's been forever since I've seen any of the movies it's a neat little reference you see him holding on the back of a garbage truck listening to heavy metal music I just thought that was kind of stupid how they made him a garbage man I mean what the fuck why don't you make him a garbage man he wanted Sid to have the happy ending because Sid's just great Sid shouldn't have been a garbage man oh my god this is so it's like he's projecting he relates to Sid and is sad that he's jealous that Sid got a job as a garbage man he seems like man I could never get a job he seems to think it's demeaning but Jared Jared if you think that Sid is someone to look up to that says so much about you probably because you're a garbage person that admitted to being a pedophile garbage person that's very inclusive language of you good on you good on you he wants to be a garbage person Monday well he already is I mean what is this like the 1920s I mean he clearly collects garbage what do you mean 1920s they're garbage men around today I mean what is this like the 1920s I mean come on 1920s when we had garbage does he not realize that garbage men are still you know he doesn't know what goes on outside what is this the 1920 once in a while he'll open the blinds and be like where are all those spaceships I mean what is this like the 1920s I mean come on this guy is the second coming of Chris Chan Oh oh wait wait let's repeat that for the audience to hear it unadulterated why would you make him a garbage man I mean what is this like the 1920s I mean come on we all know white people aren't garbage men anyway what what what about places that a majority white that need garbage collection what happens then I can't say that I have necessarily paid attention to the racial makeup of garbage men but I seem to remember seeing some white garbage men in the past I would dare say I've seen more white garbage men than black garbage men myself like Sid I think all men are garbage so yeah how about that anyways I don't want to start any shit with that instant regret yeah so yeah with Toy Story Man you know just fucking awesome I love the people that voice them you know when you're a kid you don't know who they are but you know who they are that voice them Tim Allen Tom Hanks how fucking Jim Varney a lot of you guys probably don't know who that is he played a character called Ernest T-Bass back in the 80s and the 90s with movies like Ernest Goes to School Ernest Goes to Camp I'm not at all shocked that he knows about the Ernest movies another childhood hero it's Innocent Sid Warhouse and I'm just kidding anyways so yeah I mean what else does it really say about Toy Story it's just a fucking epic movie man and if you don't like this movie seriously you're Hitler you're either Hitler or Mussolini or like fucking Pol Pot or something you have to love this movie even the cynical people you know I've noticed even the real cynical people of YouTube who shit on everything still love movies like Toy Story so I'll give them a pass for that and I think it's because they love the characters and just the dialogue the relationship with Andy and his toys and I can definitely agree with them there it really is an awesome thing you know when you're watching Toy Story and you see Woody and Buzz reunited again with Andy you know it kind of makes your heart melt a little bit it really is I just had to say that but it's also really funny seeing the toys in real life they did this a little bit in Toy Story seeing the toys in real life but when they're just kind of scampering about like on the streets that's some of the best he thinks that the outside world is real life I was about to say the house is just toy world like inside is like toy world but outside oh that's the real life and Hitler hates Toy Story though when they're in the real world I just think that's hilarious but yeah it's still a great movie a fucking Toy Story man yeah when I was a kid I used to check to see if my toys are real and I know some other people did this too so don't front I would crack my door seeing if my Ninja Turtles were like having a party he has one at hand of course he does this safety something he just has Ninja Turtles maybe like fucking each other fucking each other in the ass what gotta defend the honour of my Ninja Turtles toys they ain't gay he wanted to make the gay joke and then he was like wait I must respect my toys I am not ready to commit to this probably fucking each other in the ass but they're not gay though all of us were like having a party it's totally fraternal dancing around maybe like fucking each other fucking each other in the ass hopefully not homo but yeah I wanted to fuck each other in the ass in a totally straight and brotherly way no homo it was fun not the gay way it's not gay if you're just you know they did some weird shit when Andy wasn't looking I'm just saying no I didn't know that Sharon I'm pretty sure you're the only one in the world who changed that conclusion totally lacked libidos I didn't even think to think show it in the movie but come on let's just be real Woody and Bo Peed he was smashing that shit you know he was Mr. and Mrs. Potato Head they were doing all kinds of freaky shit they were making tater tots is that what you're trying to tell me they could like take parts of their body off so they were like fucking each other in all kinds of different places I said we've descended from the toy story reviewing to the sexual fetish he was like he was like even the most cynical people love this wholesome movie they were probably fucking each other when Andy wasn't looking taking off each other's arms and sticking them up their assholes the fact that he's just like rapid firing like all the ways that the toys could be having sex it it implies that he's clearly thought about this for a while it's the most lucid he's ever been especially the Mr. and Mrs. Potato Head holy shit that's my fetish potato fetish it's like wasn't bite man said he just needs to sock in some mashed potatoes or something but anyways guys thanks for watching the toy story series I heard there's going to be a toy story 4 cannot wait I hope Andy finally gets to reunite back with his little toys that'll be awesome so thanks for watching there we have it classic Jared just as good as memory series it was so cool to get a toy series 1 2 and 3 review in one video I'm trying to figure out which one he talked about the most it's hard to tell I think he talked about fucking the most yeah there was a nice little portion on fucking I think probably the second no second one I think he talked about the least it's hard to tell sometimes you didn't really know which one he was talking about I love that he still forgets like half the character's names what's wrong with his arm it's like a little band on there oh he's probably like sitting on it a weird way or are he put it around do you have like a belt around his arm so he could shoot up I don't know if he's smart enough to do that to know how to do that I don't know that's the magic is he never know is like is he addicted to where did the safe go oh and there was something to show you a wolf while you had missed it it was a bail in original oh I've seen this I thought this was in the chat good stuff I like this I like how I'm not fat all the Australians getting pursued by the elues yeah like a tonal day with his slingshot absolutely beautiful the first first bail in art was that disgusting thing from TLJ with the floating stack oh yeah that's the memory lane shit right there that thing was terrifying and I'm pretty sure I'd not seen it from the movie before the picture and then you see it in the movie and you're like oh my god I think I mentioned it Wolf for myself mentioned it while we were on a still point and then we all noticed it and we were like how did we not notice this before weird floating scrotum blimp is blimp oh how much time has gone by about 5 20 something in 2 years 20 something in 2 years Mr Frodo there's been 20 something in 2 years Mr Frodo what are you talking about makes sense to me fucking dude it was so cool when the video that totally felt like tone was shifting gears was the 3 favorite video games what he was like that was the turning point video it was like there oh my god I'm still up this morning after my you know throwing up and I was just thinking like did that conversation with tonal to actually happen I was kind of amazed there was a weird time ain't working the way it's supposed to right now like I'm running on fumes yeah like all the fuel is gone and it's all those stankies in the tank yeah we're on our thanky tanks we're on our thanky tanks right now what we are is we're on our 300 gallon gas covered parking lot that's what we're doing wait what was this is the thing I'm not letting time defeat me that would be the big gay so it was 11 and a half plus 11 and a half equals 23 which means we're on our stream and we're nearly up to five hours which means we've got to hang for just over two hours and of course I wouldn't want to torch you in case you want to two hours no I've made it this far I can do two more hours yeah I can do it it's all good in the hood first nizzle of course afterwards you'll probably go into hibernation which I don't blame you I think I'm gonna go into just a coma hibernation coma's a way cooler that's cool they are longer thank you good to see you too I didn't think I'd make it but here we are I've already slept yeah there's a couple people that might be able to squeak in right at the end but if not it's okay if you don't turn up to 100 unfortunately it doesn't mean you're an awful human being it just means you've kind of lost what it really is to be a man just a little bit makes sense clicker I have a thretonus which one of these faces is new metal hello that's me it's me again rags is upside down he's having trouble it's the tl guy I'm hanging there rags hanging there rags I'm like a hanging there cat fuck cat fuck cat how dare you how y'all doing I'm hanging in there I'm really tired yeah I don't even imagine so I'm uh I'll open a beer or I don't know I guess the end stretch I don't know how long are you gonna even continue I have no fucking idea I believe they said about two to three hours he's like just over two I think we're gonna chill we're just gonna chill we don't have anything on the docket I don't even know that I would survive such things like honestly the last video we covered I was getting so tired of like arguments I just too I love the last video I saw was the restoring the balance to star wars thingy I'm so glad I got out of that when I did dude I was so bad when I woke up you guys were still covering it like four hours later I was like oh god I would not have survived to that I think the video was like 40 minutes long right for 30-30 minutes I don't know it was like 35 I think oh boy cheers to 100 are you drinking on the job yes so that uh that uh totaled interview I think that redeemed 2020 entirely oh dude I feel like he's gonna be ending up as president pretty quick oh please please just vote it in you know just just do it man you just he's positive enough I don't think he would not try HIV positive were you talking about Jared well that's probably still the case yeah but he's still a virgin but he's HIV positive like he got it from his shirt or something oh shirt like it grew on him not like it started to like him or he started to like it but it like started to develop on his shirt like bacteria in a glass I'd like to think that there's like barnacle like growth on his back and that's just like feeding in the HIV hahahaha that's what's in his that's eventually those Q-tips that he that were dirty that he left on his desk which are probably still there they just started to become sentient and seek out ears hahahaha there's a horror story if anyone wants to make a horror story no those are different I mean you can have a horror horror story about scary ladies of the night and Q-tip monsters what about the lads of the night you could be the lads of the night you could be you could dress him up in outfits one of them could be a vigilante called scarlet harlot she goes around at night in the streets of victorian england with her magic parasol and she uses it to blow away I mean that's part of choice of words I admit but she uses it to like um I don't actually know what she does where is Jay? I have sent Jay an invite I'm not sure Jay bro Jay Braloney I mean I'll could join at any moment every time I look back up to the screen I have to find out which face is new blessed pipeman is here that's fantastic that's great that's great you all sound like you're on a cancer ward the energy is Jay I'm good answer what builds character I already slept so I don't know how many hours are you at now 26 hours you've been doing the stream for 26 hours presumably you will okay but surely you were awake before you did the streams how many hours in total have you been up hour and a half before we started about 50 minutes or so before we woke up I say we woke up like we sleep together but we don't have you taken any stimulants caffeine or actually I've been on a steady diet of those little granola bars and Lara bars and black tea and I have some peanuts and I ordered a pizza and they got my order right and it was great it was so it was perfect down to the perfect I couldn't have asked them to do a better job do you know how triggering this is right now well you're a pizza master do you prefer to have your pizzas in the more traditional triangular cut pattern or the squares it depends on where I'm getting it from alright so who would you get it from if you wanted a square cut pizza jets because their deep dish is the only pizza they have I've never heard of jets perhaps perhaps that is a local establishment it's I know it's in Michigan I know it's in Colorado I don't go to other states so I don't know where else it's at do you want one to the other each is teleport or how does that work yes I teleport don't teleport don't tell anybody you can do that you'll end up in a prison because if you teleport you die oh yeah that's true you get separate little pieces and send through transphytisms and then it rebuilds you it's not even you anymore which means technically if you teleport sure you die but the version that this is funny you know the fly the fly deals with decay and death and the combo of biology but when I had first rewatched it within the past few years the first though I had when he did the first teleport I was like oh my god he's dead what was he is now gone terrifying stuff everyone should watch the fly yeah fly is great hey speaking of death hold them we saw we saw Jurassic world fallen heart well we could talk about that because we didn't get to cover anything related guys seriously I thought we were going to be covering about three times the amount of shit we got covered I thought we were going to be covering way more so many videos went for so long I couldn't have seen this coming we don't have a precedent for this no but falling Jurassic fallen kingdom is horrible it is one of the work movies I have ever seen is that the first time you've seen it rags yeah it actually is I think you may have seen like release yeah yeah cause honestly rewatching I said to rags I was like god I'm getting the like the buzz back to make a fucking video on this movie it's so bad it's like I already did so I'll just leave it but that's how that was originally going to be the video we were going to collab on and then they decided to release it in the UK two weeks before the US for some arbitrary fucking reason we didn't do it I thought we were releasing the same day and we should promote each other wasn't that what we did oh yeah cause we were going to do what movie were we going to do was it a quiet place or was it annihilation I thought we were going to do two like we were going to do like I would cameo and break down something and vice versa but yeah annihilation was definitely on the cards and fucking hell a quiet place man like I know it's a cool movie for a lot of people fuck the hell the stupid why did they do the river scene it ruined everything there was a sequel wasn't there a quiet place too was that in there yeah I'm sorry I was not aware of this well I think covid may have fucked it up I don't know I don't know if it got a cinematic release but there is a sequel a quiet place too even quieter I don't know what you know is after like however many years new mutants finally came out what do you remember that the last x-men movie that they kept changing the rating of from PG-13 to R and back again like 11 different times no idea what you're talking about wow so that's professor Charles Xavier and company well no I mean it's the same universe but a whole bunch of like stupid kids I guess the movie got delayed like 100 times and then stock isn't it right yeah yeah which is funny because she's like five years younger in that movie than she is currently and it only just came out it was supposed to be a horror wasn't it it was supposed to be a horror movie one of the great lines that they ended up unfortunately taking out of the movie was this isn't a school it's a haunted house you know that terrifies me that's just such a great line it was like up there with Jesus Christ it's Jason Bourne we're gonna go with Zod snap neck but they've heard of snap your neck shut up oh yeah we gotta catch up on the DC news once the stream is over and I've hibernated because there's trailers out people talking there was a tweet that I casually saw someone reviewed the trailer negatively and Zack Snyder quote tweeted them like a reviewer and he said something like it's not meant for it's meant for people who aren't children so you wouldn't get it or some shit like that oh Zack Snyder you gotta make a good movie before you get the right to say anything like that I mean he always does good movies oh yeah BVS truly excellent that's like the best movie Batman really great can Superman catch diseases maybe if he maybe if it was a disease made of crypto could it be healing I don't know I don't even know if he can be penetrated so like could he even get wounds to heal well we can cut him with kryptonite right someone in chat tell me if Superman could become ill with sicknesses I wanna know who wins in a fight versus Superman and the germ theory of disease uh 16 STDs what if what if couldn't oh my god what if Superman has a tapeworm do you think he'd like laser himself to get it off well he wouldn't know if he has a tapeworm it would be inside of him and he would be he would just feel a little more hungry than normal I guess because not everything he's eating is going all the way through the can Superman be super like laser his own arm off by accident I don't think so whoops the laser is super powerful but not more powerful than his skin can Superman give people cancer with his x-ray vision because if you get x-rayed too much you get cancer yeah but you have to do it like three hundreds of times a day or something like that there's like a guy in work he really doesn't like and you just fucking he's just like you know well that's why at the every time he passes his cubicle he just rose some of just a little bit more that's why when you go to the hospital and you get your x-rays you get x-rayed but the technician they leave the room because you only have to do one x-ray that year whatever but they have to do a bunch all the time so that's why they are the ones who have to leave the room it's not because x-rays are like that one x-ray is gonna hurt you you just can't be getting one person that many x-rays it's a gamble isn't it because you either get cancer or superpowers so you know which is it maybe cancer is the superpower it's a super it's maybe super getting to heaven faster I'm so glad you're not part of the make-a-wish foundation hey kid that cancer of yours that's a real superpower I'm just trying to make a child feel better if you turn it Walter White in the process you could interpret that as a superpower that's true someone named just a second his name is in Cyrillic are you okay? I haven't read it because it's Cyrillic in a while something jeal jeal jeal jeal this is what sleep deprivation sounds like I'm hiding it better rags now we're getting to the letters I know rags Superman can become sick on Krypton or with Kryptonian diseases so do the Kryptonians have like Krypton like Kryptosophilis yeah but Krypton was destroyed so surely all of its diseases are destroyed too no all of the particles were spread throughout the universe all like each planet collected one though this is our lost chance against the Superman if he used to come here it's like every planet in the universe got a Kryptonian disease I don't know what Earth's is maybe Earth's is oh my gosh maybe that's the FBI they didn't actually invent crack to kill the black people that's actually a Kryptonian death disease that came to to Earth and it just happened to hit a black person first I don't know I'm not saying it's true I'm saying it's possible I'm not even saying it's possible because you have to demonstrate possibility I'm saying it could it might be possible you don't know if it's not true so well I'm not asserting that it's true but it's not not true I don't know that I don't even know if it's possible dude we spent like 7 or 8 hours or some shit on that first gym sterling video that wasn't that was a terrible one that was really bad like I had to he starts just getting so insufferable that I had to take him off of all my recommendations I just told YouTube you had to get him off your screen once again I've said this in the past I'll say it again everything you said was in the past people keep I'll say it again you know people keep telling me that Jim Sterling is this really smart guy I have yet to understand why well who's who's on the roster who said that he was deaf it was Aiden right she said he was smart I can't agree that's the thing about intelligence is that sometimes it's hard to tell an unwise smart person who just knows things but they don't know how to apply that knowledge that's true that is a good way of putting it honestly I feel I feel like I'm lucid enough to no no that really does make sense because yeah these I'm going and those are the sounds of the pearls of wisdom that are dropping from my mouth I mean I know that he said a lot of things about the anti-consumer practices and gaming companies and shit but it's like are you really smart for regurgitating what like a thousand other people have said far more intelligently and eloquently I think he got in early he was around really early he was around and he wasn't nearly this bad I don't have a remembering remember him being this bad he never that video was like it was really funny that no you were able to even call some wrestling to some zone crazy no way also for the just for this ending right I'm going to try and reorganize intro the first galactic park forever who's she no first galactic why wouldn't move properly stop being we may we may have more people coming I'm going to try and fit them on the screen you know it's getting crowded probably no normal it's happening not social distancing anymore it's getting crowded there could be as many as three more people on the way wedge between two ha you're in for it now here we go jay just as I'm not mine jay jay jay listen to jay if you haven't watched the lord of the rings in the past oh no jay have you watched the lord of the rings trilogy I don't understand why I do that so you don't die dude this is what it comes to the lord of the rings gang is going to you know I would have been disappointed to have been watched without you never invited me so I assume you hadn't watched it yet why is there someone with come on their face in the group chat no shut up no chat didn't know about that because I the chat are all going to have like shifty eyes now no those are those are tier those aren't those are metal tiers they're not like they're it's blue it's do you think serfs come blue that's white the crypto come who the f who's gliders on the fucking so this is a cave bowl this is someone who makes videos about how game of thrones is shitty what is your picture it's not a line I know what a line is it's almost a line it's a line with two arrows here's the thing about being like almost a line I feel like it's a really all or nothing proposition when it comes to being a line I'm sorry I don't know much about you but you strike me as a kind of person who thinks that straight and level mean the same thing I assure you that is not the case I'll believe you what does that mean I mean it's actually where my name comes from gliders actually no I'm an idiot I trust a lot of people there's some people I don't trust and people who don't can't make sense of their own icons they're not trustworthy people they're not trustworthy people well it's good to be here hello there we got some time I didn't clock it in actually it's like an hour and a half or something before we finally close down this wondrous occasion of eFAP in for a hundred hours in a row that's totally what happened 100 days you mean 100 someone only walked first two in the last two hours we're going to eFAP every single day for a whole year and not ever stop some people were like oh the better eFAP 10 billion hours it's like no that is great can't be this there would be people who would manage to keep up to date with that well yeah the eFAP.me site is still incredible like the live reporting on eFAP it's like the fuck is that still going speaking of the light of the eFAP website I've been asked to give shout outs to hang on who's hang on and fuck head met wall and kibbutkins kibbutkins yeah kibbutkins yeah kibbutkins head met wall is the timestamp aficionado and kibbutkins is the creator of the website the website that has so many different pieces of functionality it surprises me every day oh yeah one of the most talented people in our whole community it's kind of amazing well let's do the thanks we got all the meme people who made the giant meme all that stuff will be coming out soon as soon as well when I wake up so I hope trust me though we got a lot for you let's get I'm going to get these names let's do it meme repository creamy sheave palpatine zed e-man gameplay spook amusing moose plagued creations with phoenix sorus rex samuel kim music credits music lil potato thaws habba goga omega ridley thubdale artist seriously that meme is glorious there's no amount of appreciation that can be said for it we go over this when you see the reaction thank you for that shit tonald saw it before he came on by the way I saw the clip where he talked about it just like 20 minutes ago seriously it was really nice the tonal section was something else there's no way it's going to describe when I was lying down in bed like oh man dude same look at everyone getting drunk I watched a wrestling life and I had like more drinks it's like oh man I'm sleepy I'm going now and I look on my phone it's like oh man bastards the tonal I have to go back and re-listen to that I'm going to watch this tomorrow while I'm at work I was fucking up by then tomorrow it would take more than all of tomorrow to listen to all of this again yes oh rax are you doing the thing where you've been up for really long and you're dying I'm not feeling normal I've been up for a while I've been really focused I've been really focused on a lot of stuff I still feel focused I still feel like I'm zoned in that last video really felt like I ran out of my capacity to respond to arguments the toy story review yes the toy story series one two and three review that was that's where my mouth spitting mad facts absolutely no chance of recovery from those tisms but this has been fun you have another hour don't you oh it's longer than that let me have a look can someone get a calculator please and I'll read out tisms I can't be trusted we got 11 hours well 11 27 13 that's 11 minutes plus 11 28 30 plus 11 28 30 and then we've apparently been live for something like 522 27 you want me to add that 522 27 add them all up take them away from 30 000 522 27 that was yeah that was the last one so I didn't really throw in like decimals or anything like that what we have now is 277 77 3 is this an English can you translate those numbers into word thoughts yeah I'm having trouble with that one it's word thoughts because when you talk to people it's really just reverse mind reading yes of course so it's so easy okay you gotta add that to that what did I say let's call it 523 now that'll be easy there you go add them all together you get 43's on the end that's easy then oh my god look at those numbers how am I going to add them together what is mass it's like an hour and a half left or so plus 11 18 carry the one 22 23 28 that's one and a half I was just figuring out how long we're going to stream just type enough things for the come to go away just over one hour 20 minutes and that pushes me to I'll probably round it up which means 7 27 I gotta go to 9 o'clock 9 p.m my time that's when I will end so there's a guarantee that'll be an hour and 33 minutes how many longer hour and 43 33 no 43 moist noice come young an hour and 43 oh that only yeah according to the math that only just does it so that's fine all we're going to do is beat 29 those losers from last year getting blown out as long as we spend an extra second to check out then we're good there you go chair we did the nasty image of the come I think it was probably gaviscon that's what they're using the porn industry they can't get come they use gaviscon apparently I don't think com is that how to find especially if you're in the porn industry like look there's some right there in the corner pick it up you're welcome that's some hand lotion thank you if you hover over it it says so speaking of come chat is going is going crazy for a chuck tingle by the looks of things oh my god that would be full circle the last time we too were to crawl together what if at 50 and had to listen to that story memories that's good you won't anyway but it's up to you guys if you want well this is the only way that's going to make the time pass dare I say it's up to chat I think we're going to get all yeses we got some nor I think it will make the time pass more slowly wait well what is your manager what would we do I think we allow this all right it looks like we're left it's funny if anyone else drops into this call she was a long time can't fire your manager that's not how that works I hope you drop into this call during this not if it's a band manager a band can do whatever the fuck they want they just need to get a new manager are you a band yes I thought oh shit wait also I'm probably going to be able to get through all of the avatars before the end of this stream that sucks stop staring at me what oh stop looking I'm trying to look at okay all right I guess do I take it away is that what's happening I don't know I guess so at this point you're so sleep deprived you could stop me very well is everyone sitting comfortably yes come all right so given ifap you like the avengers movies don't you no no well I like some of them I like some of them too did you like endgame did you like endgame I liked endgame I want to like endgame you're in there I liked it to a certain extent then time travel came and I didn't like it of course of course and a lot of people were disappointed weren't they because there was a meme last year about if only ant man had just climbed up his arse and expanded that would have blown up Thanos and killed him well thankfully Chuck tingle has thought about this premise and really gave it some thought so I have for you some names have had to be changed due to copyright reasons because of Disney so Thanos is Thanos ant man is ant guy but you get the gist of it obviously to avoid any legal repercussions so today I shall be reading avengers butt game ant guy gets small to go into Thanos' butt and then gets big and hard from two time Hugo Ward finalist not winner but finalist Chuck tingle so that would be what I'm eating today maybe this will be the one maybe this will be the one didn't someone also message Chuck tingle to say that his stuff has been spoken about on eFap and he took to it quite well didn't he I'd hope so I'll get him on okay is everyone ready for some Marvel avengers themed gay debauchery I'm not ready for you getting us whatever it is okay let's begin is everyone ready at this point for some people listening on loudspeakers in their office this is a headphone moment I think we can agree run away turn the bullet way up broadcast to your nearest bluetooth speaker it doesn't even matter if it's in a different room to you better if it's in a different room to you preferably if it's in a different house than you if you can connect to someone else's device do it now there was once when I worked at dominoes someone connected their phone to the TV in the lobby and they played porn on it and we couldn't figure out which one it was because we can't just go out and be like alright which one he's doing it okay here we go revengeers butt game and guy gets small to go into thamos's butt and then gets big and hard here we go it's been a long time since I've had any duties as a superhero and to be honest I've kind of enjoyed the vacation granted I wish the circumstances behind my long hiatus were better but part of moving on in this brand new world is accepting the fact that we failed for a lot of the heroes I work with this has been the hardest part when you've been doing the job for as long as me and most of my contemporaries you start to notice a pattern mainly the fact that we never seem to lose it's not like there aren't a few close calls but it's the nature of superheroes to come out on top when all the dust settles and the smoke clears I suppose that's what makes us who we are and what must frustrate the hell out of any villain who happens to cross our path that is, until we met thamos a purple skinned dinosaur more powerful than any foe we've ever seen when this intergalactic warlord showed up I had a feeling I might be stepping out of my depth I'm pretty good at what I do but my powers just don't stack up when compared to the rest of my peers iron butt has a mechanical suit that makes him irresistibly handsome thorn has a hundred times the strength of any mere mortal and then here I am with the power to shrink and grow at will it's fun and convenient sometimes but it also doesn't serve much purpose in the heat of battle oh and I also get along very well with ants giving me the name ant guy of course rarely do heroes get to pick and choose their abilities oh hang on you killed jerry what of course rarely do superheroes get to pick and choose their abilities and I try to remain thankful for what I have instead of seething with jealousy as a member of an international superhero team the revengeers I try my best to fill in strategic holes wherever I can always doing my part in some small way the battle against thamos was all hands on deck a who's who of superhero how he's speaking this really shit a who's who of the superhero world all joining together using their powers to defeat this ultra powerful titan from some distant end of the galaxy we put up a hell of a fight but at the end of the day there was nothing we could do thamos completed his evil master plan clapping his muscular buns together and erasing half of all sentient creatures from existence here on earth things basically shut down we probably could have made it work with half the population still around but at that point nobody could master the emotional strength the whole world was just too devastated to push onward as though nothing happened people quit going to work and the sound of laughter stopped ringing out through the streets all together thamos may have destroyed half the population but the spirit of everyone was crushed under the weight of his actions as a superhero there wasn't much for me to battle against anymore what was left of the minor villains in my city were equally devastated by loss no longer interested in a life of petty crime instead of shrinking down to a tiny speck of dust or growing as tall as an enormous building I spent most of my days reading and catching up on chores around the house it's the only thing I could do to shut off my mind and ignore the formidable grease that consumed everything around me but I could only ignore reality for so long I pull up to the front gate of the revenge's secret headquarters waiting for the high tech security system built by iron butt himself to read my pupils and scan my car for any weapons it only takes a brief moment before the scan completes and the gate swings open wide allowing open wide sorry allowing me passage I pull forward onto the lush grounds of the secret headquarters an enormous campus constructed in the middle of the wilderness with rolling green hills and a small river that runs through it the whole place is immaculate cared for by an army of robots who also serve as lethal security sentries I drive around to the front parking lot pulling in next to a few other cars that I immediately recognize the whole team is here I think to myself half of them at least I climb out of my car and find myself immediately greeted by iron butt hand iron butt offers using my real name thanks for coming his greeting is kind and professional but unsettling in its own unique way iron butt is never this nice a rowdy character with an endless arsenal of witty quips it's strange to see iron butt this solemn that mischievous twinkle in his eye has vanished long ago with half the known universe where else would I be I question iron butt just nods with understanding then motions for me to follow him the two of us begin our walk through the front door of the revenge's headquarters then down a long hallway towards the wall a place where all of our tactical discussions once took place so you've got a plan I say iron butt nods it's good to hear I continue forgive me for not being as excited as I should be it's just the two of us stop turning to face one another I want to get back at Thanos so badly I want to make him pay I admit finally letting these pent up feelings course through me and if you've somehow figured out a way to find him and put us in the position for another showdown I'll be right there right by your side but iron butt questions but none of this is going to bring them back I remind him all of our friends our families we already lost and that's not something hunting down Thanos is ever going to change for the first time I see the faintest glimmer of a smile work its way across iron butt's face what if it is something we could change I narrow my eyes what do you mean shorter the time machine there's no way that's possible now iron butt's familiar grin completely appears the man unable to hide his excitement any longer go in for a treat he tells me then continues onward and I follow behind a time machine I question overflowing with excitement iron butt pushes through the door of the war room and were immediately greeted by a round table of heroes some faces that I recognize and some I don't behind them in a large spherical machine with various electrical tubes and wires connected to its round surface there is a single seat in the middle of the contraption and it's empty the second I arrive everyone begins to applaud a rousing welcome that I wasn't quite expecting oh thanks it's all that I can think to say a little confused I appreciate it but the best you guys are way more powerful than I am not in this case offers doctor weird a man in a long red cape with incredible magical powers doctor weird stands up from where he begins walking towards me a fire in his eyes I've seen sixty nine thousand different permutations of our final battle with Tamos and there is only one that ends with victory you are the hero we need I am my stammer who's going with me doctor weird shakes his head just you proc banner could only make a machine large enough to send back one hero fortunately one is all that we need this is crazy I reply I can't shoot lasers or cast magic spells I can't turn into a mighty green monster or I can do is get really small or really big exactly doctor weird replies with a smile reaching out and patting me on the shoulder with a reassuring gesture the magical man walks over to the far wall then begins to trace his fingers through the air this leaves a trail of shimmering cold energy wherever doctor weird moves allowing him to treat the wall as though it's an enormous whiteboard as I said there is only one plan that will work and one hero who is equipped for the job that hero is you repeats doctor weird sketching out a tiny drawing of Tamos and me standing next to one another we're going to send you back in time to our penultimate battle with Tamos and I already be there I question doctor weird nods for question yes but please don't interact with yourself or you'll destroy the entire space time continuum once you've arrived you should immediately shrink down to the size of a sand grain doctor weird magically makes the floating sketch of me shrink down into a single dot of light we then need you to approach Tamos cautiously and fly up into his butthole continues the doctor wait what I'd learnt we need you to shrink down very very small and then fly up into Tamos's butthole repeats doctor weird magically causing the dot that represents me to shoot up into the drawing of Tamos why I stammer so you can get really big once you're in there and make him explode doctor weird continues I have to admit it's not the craziest idea I've heard and if doctor weird says this is the way it has to be then I trust him I take a deep breath and I let out slowly allowing a moment for everything to sink in let's do it I finally announce clapping my hands together loudly the room erupts into cheers as I approach the spherical time machine climbing inside and taking my position at the helm before me is a large screen with a series of flashing symbols powered by some strange combination of technology and magic you only get one trip there and one trip home explains iron butt so make it count hopefully by the time you return this will be a very different world now I've got this I assure the collection of heroes you can count on me whenever you're ready press the big red button doctor weird instructs motioning towards a large button that sits next to the flat screen without a moment's hesitation I slam my hand down hard on the big red circle suddenly the entire world around me disappears with a loud electrical crackle I feel as though I'm hurtling forward at an incredible rate of speed all solid matter falling away and replaced by a swirling cascade of blue and white energy this sensation only lasts a matter of seconds however and the next thing I know my body is yanked forward as the machine comes to a dead stop in the middle of a strange alien landscape I recognize that I recognize this place immediately a distant planet that has haunted my nightmares ever since that fateful day over and over I've thought about what it would be like to return to this place the sight of my own final battle with thermos but never did I believe this day would actually arrive finally my thoughts are interrupted by frantic shouting and booming explosions that emanate from somewhere nearby I quickly jump down from my time machine and survey the surroundings finding that I'm hidden behind a large pile of rubble beyond this pile is where the chaos is occurring and already I know what that chaos is carefully I sneak around the edge of this rubble mound to get a better view watching as my final battle against thermos rages on once more of course the selection of heroes made a stand against the evil warlord but it's the last fight I was involved in and the one that brought us the closest to victory before fate dramatically snatched it away I can see why doctor weird would bring me to this moment and guy get big and smash him someone calls out drawing my attention I glance over but quickly realize it's not the current and guy he's calling to but and guy from the past immediately I shrink down to the size of a sane green and begin bounding around this rugged terrain towards thamos doing my best not to draw attention to myself of course this is a fairly simple task when you're my size and it's not long before I'm standing below the enormous purple skin dinosaur I gaze up at thamos is perfectly toned buns noting just how muscular and well sculpted they are if he wasn't trying to eliminate half the universe I have to admit I'd actually find this god like entity quite attractive here goes nothing I say under my breath then spring upwards with a powerful bound I easily travel to the fabric of thamos's suit then have no problem navigating into his butthole I push deep inside the purple entity's anal passageway eventually finding a spot to rest part one of my mission is complete now for part two not wasting any time I reverse course enlarging myself as quickly as possible unfortunately I hit a snag when I find that thamos's power extends all the way down into the depth of his butt instead of exploding the purple dinosaur into a million pieces I simply find myself filling out his ass stuffing him full I hear a rumbling voice exclaim from all around me thamos clearly just as surprised as I am hold on a moment for my place deep within his butthole I can hear the fighting and explosion stop I'm sorry I'd like to keep battling you all but I feel a little strange thamos calls out I'll be back oh no oh no I begin to stammer realizing now what's about to happen the next thing I know someone is grabbing tightly onto my feet pulling hard as they remove me from my anal hiding spot I immediately return to my original size to find thamos standing before me but the alien battleground is nowhere to be found instead the two of us grossed under the warm afternoon sun on a lush beautiful farm did you teleport us here I blurt well I thought I was only teleporting myself thamos offers in return I didn't know there was a stow away I could crush you do you understand yeah I stammer suddenly realizing the grave danger that I'm in out here on this farm wherever that may be there are no other heroes to protect me thamos and me just stand here for a moment staring at one another awkwardly he's sizing me up as I tremble in fear still not quite sure what to do with me I'm not going to crush you the purple dinosaur finally admits why I ask cautiously to be perfectly honest I haven't felt that good in a long time thamos explains I narrow my eyes not exactly sure what he's trying to say you mean with me in your butt the purple warlord nods now that I know how handsome you are I was hoping I could return the favor I know it's never a good idea to sleep with the enemy but I must admit my powerful attraction to the strange galactic entity he's incredibly muscular and well built with a perfect ass and a bulging package that I'd love to get a better look at more importantly I can sense the slightest bit of good within him maybe just maybe with the right amount of tender love and care I could alter the course of history with carnal passion instead of violence I think I'd like that I finally say a mischievous twinkle in my eye suddenly thamos and me are kissing enthusiastically our hands roaming wild across one another's bodies as we tear away at the fabric of our super suits the more I see of thamos's bare chest and abs the more turned on I get consistently blown away by his mighty physique can't believe we're doing this I gush my hands tracing lower and lower across the purple dinosaur's muscular form I hesitate for a moment at the warlord's waistband teasing him with my touch and then finally having mercy as I reach inside I grab a hold of thamos's swollen cock and then pull him forth gasping aloud when I finally see the full size of his behemoth rod oh my god I stammer that is a beautiful space cock thamos smiles nearingly then falters slightly as I begin to beat him off the purple entity leans his head back and shuts his eyes tight as I begin to stroke him pumping my tightly closed grip up and down across his rod fuck yeah I coo into I knew you'd love this one Jay you like that I coo into the purple warlord's ear I continue to beat off thamos like this for a good while then eventually drop down to my knees before him I gaze up with my cock hungry eyes then open my mouth wide and and and swallow his mighty dong I swiftly get to work bobbing my head up and down across the purple dinosaur's length gracefully servicing him while I reach up and cradle his hanging cosmic balls my movement are skillful and patient taking my time with his shaft and as I alternate taking my time with his shaft as I alternate techniques eventually I pop thamos's dick out of my mouth and I lick him from the base of his rod to the very tip kissing the end playfully as I gather my senses next I open wide and take the purple warlords cock once more only this time I don't move my head back and forth instead I push my face farther and farther down onto thamos's rod somehow relaxing my gag reflex enough to take him into my absolute depths deeper and deeper I push until eventually I end up with my face pressed hard against thamos's perfectly chiseled abs his dick consumed to the hilt thamos switches down and places his hands on the back of my head holding me there for a moment as he savors this perfectly performed deep throat I'm loving every second of this encounter enjoying the fact that enjoying the way it feels to submit myself to such a powerful entity eventually I run out of air and pull back with a gas sputtering wildly as I struggle to collect myself a long strand of saliva hangs between my lips and the head of thamos's giant shaft I need that fat cosmic cock inside me I tell him well-died and belligerent I quickly pull off the rest of my uniform leaving only the strap around my waist that helps me to shrink or grow I turn around and fall forward onto my hands and knees popping my ass out towards the hulking purple giant clearly thamos likes what he sees his eyes transfixed on my perfectly toned rump as I wiggle it from side to side I reach back and give my butt a playful slap then hold my cheeks open so he can get a good luck at my puckered backdoor fuck me I command the massive purple dinosaur climbs down into position behind me and lying his giant dick with the anal seal thamos teases me for a moment playfully testing the rim of my butthole then pulling back at the last second please I beg I need that cock finally the warlord has mercy and pushes forward filling me up completely in a single powerful swoop I let out a startled yelp as he enters me my fingers gripping tightly into the ground as I struggle to adjust to his incredible size fortunately thamos takes his time with me allowing my body to adjust to his formidable member gradually the purple dinosaur begins to pump slowly in and out of my ass causing the aching discomfort to gently melt away soon enough the sensations pulsing across my frame are one of pleasure and warmth the two of us fall into a confident rhythm together thamos hamming hammering away at my butthole while I reach down between my legs and grab a hold of my hanging swollen cock now two distinct sources of pleasure start to build within one from my prostate deep down inside and one from the aching head of my swollen cock these two sources of bliss feed off one another growing stronger and stronger at an exponential rate it that feels so fucking good in my tight ass I moan my eyes rolling back into my head as I repeat this phrase over and over again growing louder with every round until I'm screaming it out at the top of my lungs that feels so fucking good in my tight ass I can sense the edge of a powerful orgasm looming within me and moments later I'm hurtling off this cliff into the great unknown I grit my teeth hissing through them as the sensation explodes through my body like a massive tidal wave sweeping me away I scream jizz erupting hard from the head of my cock and splattering out across the ground below in beautiful early patterns it feels as though this orgasm will last forever load after load blasting from my dick but eventually the sensation passes and Thamos pulls his rod out of my now weamed back door come all over me I command frantic for the purple warlord seed I spin around on my knees gazing up at him Thamos begins to furiously beat off above me ready to blow at any second but I suddenly hold up a hand to stop him no no not just on my face I continue smiling playfully I want you to come all over me in a moment of erotic inspiration I turn the dial on my wrist shrinking myself down once more to the size of a sand grain this time however it's not my ass that I'm aiming for I run and jump flying through the air at a very specific target and somehow managing to make it through the tiny opening at the end of Thamos's cock I slide deep down into his urethra where I begin to shake wildly only adding to his pleasure do it I command blow that fucking load I can feel the penile cavern around me begin to vibrate as Thamos lets out a wild howl of pleasure suddenly I'm hit by a literal wave of cum the seaman pushing me out like a rocket and blasting me through the air as I land I tumble through an ocean of spunk completely swept away by Thamos's hot white jizz when the purple dinosaur finally finishes I return to my original size smiling wide and covered in his seed amazing I gush yes it was Thamos nods come the purple warlord turns and leads me into his farmhouse a modest structure with not much more than a kitchen bedroom and bathroom Thamos and me head to his bathroom where he starts a shower without a word the two of us climb in and begin to wash one or another in a way that's incredibly comforting and sweet it's strange to see this once bloodthirsty entity being so calm tell me Thamos finally offers bluntly I nod I thought it was the only way to stop you from going through with your plan looks like there was another way Thamos continues I pull back in surprise taking in this beautiful purple creature through this pouring water you mean you won't eliminate half of all life in the universe now that I've found you how could I he questions I wrap my arms around Thamos enjoying the comforting sensation of our embrace I have to go back to my timeline I tell him Thamos smiles now I'll meet you there suddenly I'm standing back in the war room at the revenge secret hideout surrounded by smiling friends and family everyone is here including the heroes that were so notably absent before the whole room erupts into a wild cheer when I arrive including Thamos who's standing before me with open arms soon he says end welcome to the classiest podcast on the internet you guys I'm so glad that this was my first 8-Bat experience holy shit oh I'm so glad I'm not coming back on the show I have to tip my hat to the reader I love the enthusiasm in which you read I like to think that someone tuned in just as we got a literal wave of cum jesus christ where do you find the shit voxels there's a suspicion that he writes you are a chuck tingle to be fair his pros aren't bad for someone who's that wasn't a denial pros are like he would probably have delivered us a better captain marvel yes jay that that's captain marvel one weakness I was like I wanted to be like you know people are changing their pictures to funny stuff I was like I don't have anything funny to change my picture too and I went hang on and I checked my own name on the tags of rule 34 I found this jesus christ you really like your mayonnaise don't you I love mayonnaise I actually really do like mayonnaise well is that mayonnaise or miracle whip man I just couldn't stand I couldn't stand my profile picture right next to voxels smiling at them and so I had I don't know your previous picture had like a good look of concern on it when it was in that context that's what it felt like it has to be discussed now I have to photo shop that picture all over again because it can keep the original poor people so all of that there we go that killed half an hour we have killed everyone else homestretch ladies and gentlemen 59 minutes let's just hang out if anyone in chat actually managed to stream that to someone else's bluetooth device hold it up on the loudspeaker and a wallmark I feel like there's got to be one also welcome Ben smud boy how you doing lads wasn't that wonderful wow that was wonderful that was like the last time I was on I think voxels was reading my immortal I guess it's the same experience as before since last year so hey good going voxels I certainly have to commend you you managed to maintain it really well I don't understand really it's kind of an incredible ability once but once is pretty impressive you make a few mistakes and you maintain the pace you seem to anticipate when you need to you know sensuate each of the words each of the parts very good reader you have voice acting experience yourself don't you Moorla yeah I'm not that consistent I need more attempts correct me if I'm wrong didn't you do some voiceover for a video game an ant game ant guy he wasn't there no no no an ant game yes what was that like it was fun little experience you have to read out the funnest part was when it got to like the really gamey things when it would be like say like 10 resources remaining you have to read out like 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40 that sort of shit we were like wow someone's actually going to listen to you read out all these fucking things that's how it works mechanically but then the duration stuff you get to be like you know I think I've told you this before but like with documentaries they make it all dramatic like the army of ants approaches the innocent gorilla as it sleeps oh like leningen but you get to do that in the game and be all like epic there's a clip Mel knows about this one where I'm like testing out the game myself and I'm about to fight like this huge boss but I've kind of like over provided ants to myself and I like break open the wall and my commentary is trying to introduce this massive boss going to take ages to kill and it dies like halfway through I'm explaining it and it's just like awkwardly standing around like I'm just taking apart its corpse well it's like this thing is unstoppable it's like he could like yeah I was watching it's empire of the ants isn't it I was watching a review someone was you know praising it sounds really good segment and I heard a voice and I was like that's molar that's molar talking empires of the undergrowth I believe yeah that's it it's an ants so who here has been who here has been here the entire time I have I have rags of mollard I feel like I have been after that 24 hour streams are so brutal I've done three of them and I almost never want to do one again well hey after all that I have arrived once but I've came twice yeah we got 56 minutes until 30 hours is what we we decided to go for this year just to beat out the 29 from last year because with that petty to old does that mean next year 31 yeah I guess we got to do 31 next year oh don't keep going for too many years I was going to say we're going to have to give up eventually we hit like 10,000 like how are we alive 50 50 years of e-feps oh yeah at that point we might actually kill ourselves by staying up that late did you know you will die of sleep deprivation before you starve to death really depends if you're sleeping or reading well if you here's the thing the statement assumes you're not doing either I didn't hear that I didn't hear that assumption it's like an understood you as like a subject in a how recently have I slept or eaten I don't know only you can prevent forest fires yeah I believe you can starve to death in a week but you can probably die of sleep deprivation in about four days or so I think sleep deprivation it's I'm not sure what the difference is it could last a lot longer than a week without food I know you die of first week three weeks without food I think it's like closer to a month because it's like I've fasted for five days and I didn't feel like dying so I was dying of first listening to that three minutes without oxygen three days without water, three weeks without food it's three weeks holy shit you can go a long time without food as long as you're getting that water yeah it depends how large you are already like movie bob it's probably like three years well you chop off your arm right and you start eating that oh no no if he's posted a video about that that's a bad idea it spends more energy to heal than it does when you get from eating it yeah your stomach juices would digest themselves every three days you're lining so you have to keep drinking water yeah you don't want to eat if you don't have access to water in certain circumstances because you expend water in order to go through the digestive process you think your body would be smart enough to not do that well no you wouldn't um Jay there's a question going around which holiday do you prefer Halloween or Christmas Halloween that's just I'm offended that people have to ask me because obviously I'm on the side of the better option yeah what's the numbers on that now I believe well let's find out who he has and we got three people to answer the question here right now Ben Halloween or Christmas which is better I go Halloween all the way I'm not a fan of Christmas I can't stand Christmas music I cannot stand it so definitely Halloween you know what I was going to say Christmas until you brought up music it's Halloween yes that music you can't escape it either it's everywhere maybe you haven't heard any good music from Christmas markets or live performances those are fantastic whether it's German or just traditional Christian it's beautiful stuff doesn't really matter what language they're singing it's always beautiful live performance those are just not good ever what about English do you like English rags English is hit and miss honestly but I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that I understand what the words mean English stole a lot of words from a lot of places that's why it's so cool the English stole a lot of things from a lot of places give me your words back Earthlings stole a lot of things from a lot of places that's the problem with English is that there's so many words or phrases that you don't pronounce and people look at this like Germans they go what the hell is this word hey man I'm right here okay what phrases do we not pronounce I'm so confused there's so many words that you write them but you don't say them the little symbols that correspond to sounds the letters yes the alphabet thank you what's happening you said there were like phrases we don't pronounce and I was so confused I think it's really weird that nobody pronounces the P and Simpsons fucking kill you so we've got two more in the numbers for Halloween and one for Christmas yes sir okay we got the surprise at the end of it one of holidays gets permanently banished from reality do you have a do you have a plan for episode 200 because I have a proposition back in the day on DP we had someone get fisted on episode 200 what I like that that's just what do you guys think fisting you know what I've been thinking about it yeah yeah there was there was a census done for the year of 2001 to 100 I guess I can link it into eFap chat you guys can do your votes I'm not sure it'll make a huge difference at this point because it's been voted upon heavily there it is these are the results we can we can see what the census results are isn't everybody interested by what in the world this could say to fucking put it on the screen we have to make everyone look weird sorry about this but no problem it happens now you're going to see 5 it's okay we got a good selection they only cut out half of us yay I'm still here so which were your favorite eFap episodes of year 2 the overwhelming score seems to be going to lord of the rings which was like the most painful eFap but yeah with a runner up looking to be a guide to the last jedi do you remember that shit wolf you were there for that that fucking video guide to the last jedi which one was that it was like the last big video you covered before 100 I guess yeah because it's like full breakdown of oh that's older 66 then as well yeah and the jenny nickle someone and the quintan one yeah they're all high school oh and tonal gonna cook us we just had it cook that was the highest quality um favorite new guest was aidan paladin by pretty significant margin next up was internet historian and then heal vs babyface and armad skeptic look at the little community voting how interesting who your favorite reoccurring eFap I feel like this is unfair now it's a popular contest friggie wins it out apparently he's the favorite reoccurring guest then chat adversity then critical drinker then jay jay how does it feel poor alz fucking 3% oh that's just racism nobody likes the black smiley face it's terrible yeah and mel you beat out pheo who was on eFap wow oh damn that's exciting but we can where it beat you out bastard what are the best new memes of year 2 it seems to me that the two overwhelmingly voted for isle of man flag and nor that's fair enough that doesn't surprise whatsoever they are very commonly used a clear runner up is what you bring me I don't even know why that would have been a surprise and then batwoman's ridiculous fight music oh kuga juice at a 0.3% just oh kuga juice was good though gimley wants frodo and sam to die you already got 0.2% how is that possible how many of you two what's jags what is jags is that like a ship name for me and rags no what if that's like me but jags is it a portmanteau is it like rangelina if people ship you and rags together is that what that is that's what I was guessing yeah well have a look on that rule 34 website that you got your avatar from I'm not sure what this one means ifap year 2 compare to year 1 it just says 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 alright well and I think in the quiz it said better or worse oh wait so what was full quiz for the better or worse I think one was worse oh wow one piece of shit thought that this year it was jared jared got into the he figured out how to work his computer machine have you gone out of your way to watch or play a movie show or game because of e-fap coverage and the most commonly answered is yes because I got interested in the media by the discussion of it winning we've gotten people into stuff and yes both which was the worst movie in the star wars sequel trilogy and it seems to be the last Jedi according to this interesting what do you mean by a shock it got a 50-50 vote last time it was insane it was deadlock exactly reading the leaks though this one also includes the force away right after we did it on order 66 right I still think the rise of skywalker is worse than the last Jedi I think you may be forgiving the last Jedi's tisms maybe I think you may be forgiving the rise of skywalker I actually agree with Jay on this one I think rise of skywalker is just a little bit worse like I would agree with you like originally but then it took some time to realize that the only reason that the rise of skywalker is as bad as it is because it was doing damage control for TLJ no no that's not people keep saying that half of the things that damage control for TLJ are like some of the least offensive parts of the film JJ like made that shit by himself like the first thing that it does is bring back Palpatine there was nothing nothing TLJ totally set that up TLJ definitely destroyed Luke but the rise of skywalker destroyed the greatest villain in cinematic history which is worse in my opinion I'm not saying that the rise of skywalker would have been good if TLJ didn't exist it still had made its own big stupid foibles but having to do damage control for TLJ probably would have at least got the pacing better no I mean it was a staggeringly low vote for the false awakens people seem to be sure that the false awakens really is better than the other two I guess the hun solo damage and the damage to the world just not as significant as what happens in the other two which I think is fair most inconsistent character in the rise of skywalker the top vote was Kylo Ren but he was disqualified so next up was Admiral Hux I guess so oh yeah that's what I chose oh yeah I'm trying to remember what the results of that were actually do we have that on eFab.me the votes and I don't know I know I chose Rey and I was right yeah I chose Rey and I was right Admiral Hux looks like Rey narrowly edged it out over Luke Skywalker I don't want to think about Rey edging Luke Skywalker oh no retirement no he didn't looks like in the community response Christmas is currently beating Halloween horrifying yeah no they're correct you know how people say that the eFab audience is just Nazi I agree with that yes all I need to know is that tonald likes Halloween and that's just all the confirmation yeah that was wonderful everyone voting Christmas needs to know that you're gonna just please tonald I liked Halloween before tonald said it you know I think I think I might prefer Thanksgiving and St. Patrick's Day over Halloween though because both both holidays cater to my gluttony and my alcoholism Halloween doesn't you know I'm not a big candy person I'm not a big sweets person you can just get drunk I'm a big sweets person I like me some sweets well like does like the cakes count as that not for Halloween I don't think what did they magically turn into something like candy bars which are closer to cakes than what you think of when you think of candy which is like hard candy and gummies and stuff yeah I don't think of candy bars when I think of cake like you know like a cake bar which is like just cake wrapped with like maybe caramel and biscuit wrapped in chocolate there are some Quebec style cakes like that but that's very specific it's what we would call a cake bar and some deplorable parts of the UK oh really a cake bar that's new okay I've heard people from the UK refer to soda as fizzy juice so whenever I use UK use a word for food I have no idea what they're talking about a flapjack there is like an oat bar here it's basically a pancake oh I got that you want some I said like that um we got the most wholesome laugh competition was Moriarty versus Mark After Dark versus Jay Longbone are there any more there are trio of laugh to people no one else has laughed on e-fap no well Jay Longbone smashed the competition which is interesting it's hard to beat Moriarty honestly Jay Longbone this is a powerhouse oh yeah absolutely I completely agree with that like black don't crack we got Jay kick, hug or both both seems to be the overwhelming winner with a kick on the back up and hug being the lowest selected out of the three options oh I get it you can hug him so you can kick him like harder and more often because he can't escape stop let me go 140 people voted for high rags hello you have to say it 440 times oh my god yeah you do have to say it 440 times can I say them all simultaneously do it hello rags I was expecting like no I said them all simultaneously and it's I'm gonna be really loud no I said it very very softly as far as it came out that loud I barely said anything but wow I tried to be imperceptible that's cray cray hang on I'll help hello hello hello oh my god you just gotta really mash the shit out of that I think we'll be good he has stolen your voice good back it's rude he's a wizard our old odd choice I want to see some slug for someone to do it cowards not a lot of tapeworms I really love your tapeworms not a lot of tapeworms where is the love from the larva jellyfish yeah no jellyfish no fish in general actually come on salee let's let the shark in which case they make them look as not shark as possible I went to my first furry con ever back in February I'm not a furry but I went with Adam from YMS when I was visiting Vancouver just to observe it was good time you have to study the enemy I'm not a furry stop saying it guys I swear oh wait Mel what's that picture from I don't recognize it someone sent it to me on twitter is it of a you do you want to put it on screen hang on let me are you riding something like a rhino I don't know most people all these days no I'm just standing around I'll drag it into the Chattenheimer I felt like we should probably ask J permission is it cool for other people to ride rhinos or is that is he doing knee squats I think so that's from the Zia Blackbird her body is just frozen that way it's like doing some really hardcore workout are you playing VR I forgot my VR set though what brand are those headphones sets what sets are those headphones what brand are those headphones Sadies it's like actually really cheap ones Sadies I still love those like my backup headset when I'm out somewhere and just need headsets actually has a pretty good microphone Mubri has some over at this place when I was visiting so we can record the Tessim I like that it's canon that you wear that shirt all the time that's true you got a toxic brood badge as well official be still crying though we were talking about once you stop crying things are going to get weird everyone should get scared what's going on are you always in a lunge stance like that yeah most of the time you must have very fit legs then I don't I'm crying I do not lie probably crying because he can't get out of the lunge stance he's practicing for his streetcar named by Marlon Brando no I have not anything like I've been kind of like seen about what I mean we almost didn't have J at all I missed a couple people this time around unfortunately yeah because it's almost squeaked right in same for a couple of you guys and it's cool right now this is like the endgame ER if you're around wait I can't fit a bit because we're a fucking full capacity on discord right now it's the endgame of strings we need to summon him the legend of Korra was really good oh no it was fucking internet his story just showed up in the first part he's like yeah okay I'll hang response to Jim Stirling for like five hours sweet that was super bad I'm glad I don't follow him anymore hey man he says some good stuff about something sometimes I'm not gonna promise what it was or what it is but sometimes yeah the ratio is getting a little out of whack now I'm getting tired of it for who? he's got a weird boner for a full guys as well like you'd think after J's video came out that people would get the message but no everyone's got their own opinions I'm glad I don't have opinions I just have facts facts facts and logic facts facts and logic someone did a meme of me where I stopped crying because if a 100 is coming on something I can't find it anymore if you're listening send it to twitter or something I can't find it come on we can't see you not crying that's gonna disturb the balance sorry can I just say I really like this avatar oh yeah it's not the one where you got like all the lengthy limbs and then that one point it's like just slightly out of frame actually as well I can tell you that throughout EFAP 100 where are we I went through 186 avatars oh my god so are you doing that manually yes I am not smart enough to do that okay but I'm sure it wasn't clunky as hell and nobody noticed so it worked out really well smoothly little clown boy that insult Tony knew what was up he knew the kind of powerhouse he was generating with that 10 people in silence yes that's the definition of Victor from legal legends and Heimer Dinger have we got any more terrible scripts we can do dramatically we've got ten more over here I'm good I would rather discuss trigonometry it's pretty interesting normalize some vectors gentlemen tell that to Zod's neck oh no listen he threw that out in a couple of minutes and you were like ohhhh judging news not very nice a creator what was the famous quote from Christophe a person works on a film for like two years and what do we do we come home as critics we watch their film we spend like half an hour and then we upload some video to youtube you know you really have to appreciate how much how did they work ah gogar sent me the meme my hero I need to save it first I shall link it in a second one second wow it is hard to type accurately just 30 minutes ragaloonies oh wow 30 minutes it's half an hour what if I told you it was actually three hours I don't know what I do no I give up I just don't know what I do I just don't know what I do I just don't know what I do did it did it did it did it what could I do what would I have the energy to do where's the glooms where's my folder so you really think Jared was the one that said last season was better no no I think I think that Jared is I don't know what's going on I don't know what's going on in Jared world he got grounded this guy that I know tricked him into playing porn on his main channel and got his main channel that people actually watched banned I don't know if you saw that well how many channels do you have I mean he has a few older ones but his two main ones the ones that had over a thousand subscribers both got destroyed for different violations and this guy that I know was re-streaming one of Jared's streams commenting on what he was doing and Jared thought he was being clever and announced in the stream that he was going to play porn to try to get my friend's channel deleted but then my friend just heard him say that and stopped re-streaming him but Jared played the porn anyway and got his own channel deleted wow nice it was a crazy time with fucking Keemstar when I went after Jared that's because Billy the fridge told him about Jared he freaks out at his dad didn't he yeah and then there was the whole saying he dated 15 year old I think he said an 8 year old actually and and his discord servers would always get deleted because the maps would flood into his discord servers so weird he's currently drawing cartographers just keeps going downhill what if cartographers became like a slang word for pedophile that would sound correct I was going to say the poor cartographers what the fuck yeah he's grounded from the internet though does anyone ever actually met a real cartographer I'm not convinced they did isn't it like the ed profession here anyway it's not exactly it's going to be places we're all pedophiles so there's a guy and he's like he's working real hard and then he finds out he's a pedophile now and he's like what the fuck I didn't sign up for this and he quits being a cartographer then there's none left you happy how many pedophiles do you try now there's no pedophile application board yeah there is registered to be a pedophile in this district yeah it's called the sex offenders register yeah but somebody called Jared's house and talked to his dad on a live stream and after that happened he got grounded from the internet again but Jared's dad like talked to the person that called him for a really long time like gave a whole interview it was really weird and then after that Jared was gone because he hasn't like returned he's uh no he hasn't and that's fine I'm glad he's gone dude the internet was not fucking good for him you could say that much I don't know what would be good for him no that's good that's a good point doing Toy Story series 1, 2, 3 was you know keeping him busy but there's only so many Toy Story movies does he also have a personal beef with the Green Ranger from Power Rangers Tomy Oliver yes there's a whole strange history to that apparently Tomy Oliver I've seen him at conventions he's like a proper like alpha male if you want to tell the story it's fucking hilarious where Jared lives in the area he lives in the actor that played the Green Ranger has a martial arts school there and Jared went in there acting like he was tough and challenged people to spar and he has no actual experience doing this and because he was running his mouth the Green Ranger the Green Ranger put him up against his best student and the guy destroyed him and then he made a video complaining about it and then one of his trolls named himself the Green Ranger and went after him for years the Green Ranger is Frederick Knudsen going to make the rabbit hole for Jared I think he should he really should Frederick if you're listening do it please do it do it do it stop pooping do more only if you stop coming oh my god how long do I have to stop doing that for 26 minutes there you go so so what how about that new football thing did you see that ludicrous display last night ludicrous they always try to walk it in he gets the reference I was some of the impression everybody did whoever hasn't seen that show deserves well I don't want to say it live I could get booed what show the crowd of information technology I always thought it was the it crowd when I was a kid because I was fucking moron well in fairness that's how they would pronounce it on s4c next up will be the it crowd it's like oh they're the it crowd they're in and then you watch it and there are a bunch of nudes and you're like I was lied to you ever watched Garth Meringi's Dark Place yes no I have not yes it's great hang on you've actually watched something shut the fuck up should we just name shows until we find one that all of us have seen everyone's in black out of yes no why does it have to be a black out of huh no this is a show called white out of two black member Simpsons sorry Simpsons isn't it weird how nobody pronounces the I Simpsons Simpsons Simpsons so fucking stupid it like felt like because it was a mean friend of mine it's like they were trolling us in the class like people gradually realizing there's no p pronounced in Simpsons while pronouncing the p it's just like what are you all doing it's like Simpsons yeah there's no p it's like what the fuck I think it's really weird how some people don't pronounce the s in impon impon impsons impsons fuck it up I'm not allowed to say any s's for the rest of the stream no no you have to replace all of your s's with t's just stop going shh shh shh shh nor nor the other Australians try to match up to fringies nor's and they can't do it no no oh my I'll get there I'll get there I can link the news he will bellow a nor that shatters his own rooftop nor he already did oh yeah shit you got that that's on the way right it is I kinda got the crap kicked out of me with day job shit but the worst is over so I'm probably gonna work on that tonight yeah you guys we got so many things coming so the reuploads of all these streams plus the reactions that have yet to come out and the main meme itself plus a batwammin episode I believe we've got one definitely ready and one is cooking but that's it for them for the batwammin's which is kinda sad to be honest with you but you are gonna cover season 2 correct are you kidding me it will be crawling all over I swear to god if it's slightly better we'll be so disappointed she turns out to be a great actress it's like oh shit and they hire a new writer who's like yeah I really care about the story of batwammin we're like no it's good now you screwed it up the theme song is legitimately amazing I don't wanna like it cause it's good I completely forgot someone said hey what about the torchwood video it's like oh right jay is that still set for christmas is that the plan you'll be seeing an e-fap torchwood mini any torchwood chat any chris chevrolet fans in chat why would you say that it's gonna be a good christmas for you they wouldn't want to identify themselves you're gonna criticize the poor doctor who is that what you're gonna do it's gonna be about 2 hours plus it's the plan it's gonna go through everything not chronologically but like going point through point of why each bit of it is terrible and why every aspect by aspect more than chronologically why must you hate women because they're just worse worst worst worst I'm quite interested to see what's gonna happen with TV production because of coronavirus the quality of TV shows is just gonna fucking plummet you can already see that with some of the other shows somehow some shows have been preempting it since 2017 wow it's really jarring cause over here in the UK some of our soap operas have started filming again but they have to practice social distancing so anyone having a fight has to just yell across a room at someone that sounds fucking hilarious it's really bizarre it's like watching something made by Tommy Wiseau like you've got two loving couples like I love you but they can't hug or kiss so it's just really bizarre jarring do you think there'll be a rise in animation because of this if this continues this kind of quality animation because animation takes a long time is expensive so we're gonna have a lot more shitty cal art style bollocks coming up I can guarantee that I can just imagine if those soap operas when the boyfriend shows up or rather the husband shows up on the boyfriend they start physically fighting they have to use like towels like whip each other with them for the social distancing they just use shots of like one guy throwing a punch and then it cuts to another guy like punching I didn't have to have like psychic battles like everyone in a soap opera do that psychic abilities and end up punching themselves in the face taking over your mind yeah just people you know you know in like Star Wars where everyone for some reason just sticks their hand out and pulls like a constipated face it'll be like that meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh shinna na na na na shah and all the movies that were supposed to come out this year will be coming out next year it's very interesting time and Disney's hemorrhaging money as well so that's good to see I like corporations you know what I think they need to do is start adding DLC to all games where you can play as your favourite internet browser and corporation and internet providers that sounds great I fucking love Fall Guys yes they need to put it on all games and I think that'll improve games you guys reckon only if I can get the rainbow skin and only use it for a month and then immediately change back whenever it's going to be for me what I would like to do is get like a corporate skin in a game where you can like do really horrible things and then use the corporate like skin to commit racially charged genocide or something bring it down that's what it is one old McDonald's in GDA 5 and only kill black people yeah that's the kind of thing I want brands to feel regret in the new Avengers game there are like corporate skins aren't there like monster superhero outfits and things like that there's essentially advertising in the game and you can wear, I think I've seen a stream and someone had some sort of corporate logo so times are hard so I can imagine a lot more shows are going to have like sponsorship and things like that so I think there will be games people were running around as Pepsi or Tango or whatever I want my Verizon skin mom I love Verizon are you guys looking forward to Star Wars squadrons no no why would I be looking forward to that it looks like something, well I like flight simulator games and I used to play like X-Wing and TIE Fighter and those kind of games back in the day so this kind of looks like a multiplayer version of it but I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean by look forward to something I don't understand that emotion anymore yeah don't you anticipate something positively I don't know I guess do you mean DREPT is the right one yeah I have a really hard time getting excited I have not yet been crushed by my own cynicism yet I guess he enjoys things Ew I think the only thing I'm cautiously optimistic for is Cyberpunk 2077 and it's interesting they've been delaying that a lot so I imagine they're really really ready to give it their best foot forward so I'm very curious I heard the latest delay was pretty much exclusively just to get it on the next gen consoles yeah and isn't there multiplayer as well now I don't know I haven't been I've been pretty much avoiding news of it I want to just go into it without knowing much yeah I think they're trying to just make the single player like super duper good and then work the multiplayer in like maybe a year or two later which is fine I like that idea the one I'm avoiding is Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines 2 that looks like an absolute dumpster fire yeah they just fired at Brian Mithboda and Kai for me just last week for no reason they just oh this is get rid of our creative director they're a lead narrative designer after five years we'll just fire them for no reason yeah the one person because a lot of people bought the game they got the original guys who made the first game which is a cult classic and now he's gone and you just see people going well I'm gonna cancel my pre-order and it's like a monkey's paw someone got hold of a fucking monkey's paw and said I want a new Bloodlines game and there is one but it's being the lead designer now probably falls to what Kara Ellison she's whose experience in writing is being a games journalist well those two guys were pretty lefty they've always been that way it's always been a political-ish story so that's fine I don't care what they put into it they're gonna give us quality if those two are on board so now that they've not rehired a new narrative designer or rather a new writer for the whatever you want to call him he's in charge of his writing team the old writers are still there so they can do whatever they want to the dialogue they can redo lines it's coming up another year anyway so they have plenty of time to change things but who knows what they can do and they've already replaced the creative designer or the creative director rather so they can change little things but that's not a that's not a huge issue like lighting visuals I think those are pretty much baked so it's the writing that could easily change and that is just like who knows what they can do well I'm apprehensive because one it's paradox and they're getting really shitty with their DLC and just the quality and then the people who are making it who is hard suit labs who have a terrible track record if you look on Metacritic the only game they've got that has like a 75 score is black light retribution they didn't even make they just bought the IP or someone else everything else is like in the red shitty mobile games so I'm that's a monkey's paw I think come yum can you do like a review of that song I don't know what are the themes of the message me themes tasty I can do a review of raxing tasty seamen just then how much longer 14 minutes approximately I think you should do a stream playing AI dungeon AI dungeon oh AI dungeon is great it's really like it's multiplayer as well and free it's like you know those text games where it like tells you what's going on around you and you type in what you want to do you generate an AI by AI oh my god people are sending people are sending tonal memes on twitter and he's replying to all of them yeah I saw that really yeah and I he said we must rally the better bravestore but we're gonna cook for sauron like yes cook for sauron I need to figure out how I can stream me cooking and I want to cook as a meal and stream it just because I can wolf was a cool dude for sure yeah that's the happiest I've ever been in my entire life oh my god we got pink neckos did we can warrior as a full guy sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry chat I'll show you in a moment there's three to set up gosh there we go oh jesus you weren't kidding he's really replying to every single one incredible we're at on twitter yeah there's this weekend warrior fullman and he is quick doodles of ragu oh fuck yeah and mulenheimer looking fancy why is why is that we can warrior a full guys character why wouldn't he be because he's fat and retarded oh no I see what oh my goodness that's not a nice thing to say about weekend warrior that's a lot better than calling him from the Philippines so yeah if I wanted to call like really insult him I would have called him a dirty Filipino he's not dirty but you see I don't think he's dirty nor do I think he's a Filipino so I didn't call him either I don't see him popping up in the chat you should be right I like how someone said demonetized do you really think we're monetized after what happened earlier no kidding I started I actually started a stream on my phone like a bunch of times where I was here and it still got an ad so oh shit well we need to try harder then actually I've been noticing recently that I'm getting monetized way more easier and the other day I didn't even have to click the review link to have it reviewed it just monetized automatically or it never got unmonetized which is something I almost never experienced yeah interesting I mean I do have more Chuck Tingle novels no I'm putting my foot down and saying no 10 minutes we must provide the audience with commentary if it's 10 minutes alright my outro commentary right now drop it down to 9 damn yeah oh yeah my tizzle just so everyone in the chat is clear this isn't indicative of me coming back to YouTube I don't have another channel I don't plan to make one I'm not coming back as a host in really any capacity it was just episode 100 there's only one episode 100 an episode 150 doesn't quite have the same ring to it actually there are three episode 100s shut up so you're saying you'll come back for episode 1000 if you get there maybe hey rags what you doing for the next what 16 years I'm taking it one doggie day at a time gee I hope they keep releasing shitty media me too I got a sneaking suspicion that they will continue to do so I think it might get on maybe our mission will be complete maybe we'll do such a good job at just all this that they'll stop making bad stuff cause they're gonna get sick of us making fun of it maybe all those people will take the criticism to heart and they'll really go through some self reflection and change their products and their their methods and they'll start making some really good really good stuff he's gonna get bought by disney and then recast with all new actors that's gonna get bought by ten cent give it the time oh man I think we're worth more than that you're gonna get played by gilford gilford dog gilford godfuck gilford godfuck gilford godfuck gilford godfrids I'm gilford godfuck our hours name is I'm gilford godfuck yeah well you know Ben Shapiro can we have abby Shapiro next time he's better to look at can we he's uh a lot of people are better to look at than Ben Shapiro I find him I find him somewhat off putting I think it's the voice it's the eyebrows isn't it he has sort of legs we're like old neighbor different part of him but it collects up to just the entire body isn't that part his legs piss me off his legs his legs it's his legs that piss me off it's his legs that piss me off I love them legs fucking Ben Shapiro in his fucking legs he's god damn legs why can't he just flop around like a boneless chicken aren't old chickens boneless that must be hilarious to work at one of those boneless chicken ranches where they have the free range boneless chickens they're just flopping around everywhere it's not even like a painful existence they're happy there's like they're having a great time they're just flopping around oh my god I just imagined like what would that feel like picking it up and it like like like it warms in your head yeah I would drop that shit and leave the place immediately that sounds horrible oh traumatized for weeks there's like 10,000 of them in front of you yeah could you like imagine picking one up and it feels like a water balloon only its eyes move you're just like oh you drop it just just bounces it looks like a chicken feels like a jellyfish something about it makes my arms like jiver jelly like I just picture this a little treadmill that takes them all back up once they roll down the little hill you could just flop onto it just like takes them back up and they're free range that would actually be worse than anything in Australia it wouldn't be very threatening though how does it kill it just falls on you I would feel very threatened by like those gelatinous chickens like rolling after me yeah like maybe they're like bees where they'll like vibrate really fast and then burn you no no no no no no no no look I have too wild of an imagination and it's going to be a lot worse in my head than it would be in real life oh I can't do it five minutes what are you doing well I'll say when we started when we decided to be a podcaster we were like let's make it to at least 100 before we quit I quit a little bit but hey we made it to 100 it took a while you know those 100 episodes with an average length of what seven hours or something this is a lot 700 hours rags what the fuck have we been doing for 700 hours it feels like I've been doing this for 700 talking about stuff and you made lots of friends as well can't deny that yeah I did wonderful friends right so should we respond to a video in these five minutes yeah let's go I'll invent one Abbey's Arms Alaskan City intro you need to refine your script I didn't want to make this video you know what I hate about TLJ haters is they harass people online like oh my god that video rags that took 10 years to get through the one that kept talking about how everyone's so mean online everybody if everyone would just be nice on Twitter the whole world would be better was that the one that like put the entire script on screen for you to read while you watched how handy is that I should start doing that yeah it wasn't it was like you shouldn't be able to read the entire video this seems weird experience your your have you come have you yum so if you're 100 plus 4 in like an hour right yes party as if we have a 30 minute break and I close my eyes there will be no alarm on heaven or hell or earth that will be able to wake me from my sloma sloma it's going to be a sloma it's a combination of the word sleep and coma yeah it's a coma that goes at 0.25 speed do your family know you're doing these podcasts I'm just worried they might declare you legally dead oh I mean we have droids that take our place during this sort of thing oh like the room can mortar isn't that the show on the cartoon show brick and mortar it's the children's show for children why would you talk about a children's show because I am a child Bob the Builder hosts a brick and mortar show Bob the Builder on eFap I would love to get Bob the Builder on eFap can we fix it let's respond to it to 10 hours I've always thought it's not quite positive enough it should be we'll fix it not can we fix it it's like it's preparing for failure the immediate next line is yes we can yeah but that's not good enough well you want it no it's fucked do you want like we fucking will we fucking will fix it you see you watch us we'll fix it after we've had three tea breaks so I've just received a message from the archivist librarian keeper of records he said that you've done 868 ish hours of content wait that's eFap right I don't know bitch numbers not even a thousand hours the entire catalog that's decades eFap's minis main channel stuff probably look at you go to eFap.me home and it's like this the lineup on the graph of all the eFaps it's like oh look at the chat eFap 50 at 29 hours it's like oh you're gonna be dethroned buddy so I went to fA to check if I had any notes and this was on the front page it's fine it's not porn or anything but this fuck the eye is on this character it's just like where is the other eye exactly why is it clipping through its head the way it is checking the soda machine it's like I see you going over there and also you over there see what you're doing guys we did it we did it 30 hours we did it well I got an outro to play so I'm gonna have to mute and you guys can chill out see no one heard that do whatever you want how did you do that what what don't confuse the sleep to prep just do your outro you did it everyone say goodbye a hearty goodbye from every frame of pause episode 100 goodbye everybody goodbye everybody it was amazing bye goodbye goodbye don't lie you love it don't lie it makes you sad goodnight I only read manga dude I prefer it if I was just on the stream by myself I would simply like to say to you do the best you can with what you got and be thankful that you're in no worse shape than you are I promise you you'll feel better see if I'm not right see you guys in the next one thanks for your time have a good day that went well didn't it