 Good to see you Matt. Hi Dan, hi Charles. Charles, I picked up from your conversations with Dan and you mentioned specifically Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab. So talking about not really being sophisticated enough to be able to organize things that have been happening recently on such a successful and grand scale, which I completely agree with. I think more likely just very well resourced chances and opportunists. But given also, I picked up that you were saying that this is nothing new under the sun that these things have gone on before, that these things have been happening for decades, centuries, possibly millennia. So do you think that there are actually sort of common threads through that, as in that there are groups that are behind any of this? And if so, I mean, does it even matter in terms of us being able to resist it or to not fall into line for them to get what they want? Okay, so first I'll say that to believe that there is a that there is a group or groups that are kind of at the top of the pyramid orchestrating everything. It buys into the same worship of control that runs our whole civilization. And it gives too much power to the mindset of control. So for that reason, because I think that there is intelligence outside the human being, there's an intelligence in the world in the in the way that events organize themselves. There's such a thing as synchronicity that aligns itself around our state of consciousness to reflect that consciousness back at us. Like, you got to take all these things into account in in any conspiracy theory, you can't ignore these things. And like these deep psychological forces that go back before the dawn of history, that I've written about extensively, mob morality, for example. Now, you know, I do think that there are I do think that there are conspiracies that are subsumed underneath this overarching structure. But they're not the primary explanation for the why the world is the way that they the way that it is. Or you could say that the most powerful people on earth are themselves puppets of ideologies, mythologies, unconscious social forces. So, and that's important, because merely removing them from power is not going to change very much, if we don't also act on the level of these psychic forces, psycho social forces, mythologies. And that's, that's what my work is about. So that, you know, maybe the revolution succeeds. I mean, usually what happens when the revolution succeeds is that it replaces the old tyrants with new tyrants. I don't want to see that happen. We have to change the ground, the ground.