 Hello everyone I was in the room meeting was waiting there by myself wondering where everyone was always great. It's going to wait a couple more minutes and we can probably get started. I think we can get started. Let me just see it's already recording. So I assume that's now automatically being done I am. I'm actually not sure but now let's just assume so that's fine. Let me just share my screen, just have to get rid of the zoom bar it's always nice. Everyone to the areas from our JavaScript work of weekly working group call. Just as a reminder we have a code of conduct that we have to abide to and just policy. It's not already in the attendance list, which is just me feel free to ask yourself so other people know that you are here and if there are any questions during this meeting they can reach out to you directly. Let's see. Is there anyone new would like to introduce themselves in this small group. That's fine. I can quickly go over the status updates and see if there's anything going on there. Does anyone know if there was a bifold meeting this week. I guess not. I think this PR team was working on right now which is supposed to have the share components to bifold. The one issue still open with migration script where it doesn't. It can migrate it but afterwards the escar databases in invalid state so there's something small we have to fix there. But I think the model that otherwise it's basically ready to go. So just one more small fix and then this is ready for review, which is very nice. And then the every skull. I was there but maybe someone else was there. I was and they talked about the open ID for VC so if you were there you probably have seen that one. Yes. So I think cream gave a really nice overview of the work that you guys have been working on with open ID for VC so it's recorded I think you guys should check it out if you're interested. I think it's quite like the presentation because I've been looking at the open ID stuff myself as well for some some other things. And it's, it's, it's very confusing, especially if you come from like a complete that com world it's so many like different terms and it's all adjusted to the generic overflow, which makes all the sense but it's, it's, it's can be quite confusing. Definitely recommend to watch that if you're interested in it. And you also gave a nice presentation about some OCA preview tool I guess. Yeah, so we're calling it the Explorer but effectively it's, it's just a way for you to visualize OCA, but branding on top of a credential so effectively what it does is if you pass in an OCA bundle. With the application you'll be able to display what the credentials would look like and then you can actually go and play around with some of the branding so you can change the colors you can change the attributes that are displayed and you can see what it would look like so it's kind of a cool tool for for business use cases I guess. But it looked quite nice and I think if it's like hosted and if you have, like if you really use OCA is for for something that it's extremely useful tool. Yeah, I think always a bit difficult I guess to visualize if you just have a like an object or something with some colors in there. Yeah, I can now post the, I'll post the link to where it's hosted it's hosted in a GitHub page right now so it's really easy to access. Nice. Thank you. We have some couple new release for AFJ and alpha on alpha. Don't really think we have anything to say about that. This conflict to I don't know if Lance is here I don't think so. I don't think that there's anything about that that we can update them. Components, yeah, work is just been keep in. We have kept working on it for a while now just, I think, I don't know credits is still like being updated with some small things a couple of PRs to do a lot of cleanup because there are still some code left over from in the shatter s and escar and video are quite. Yeah, they're quite quiet right now, not really all the things going on right there in the JavaScript wrapper as car zero to eight is released. So we just have to create a stable release for the reagent and no JS site. And then we have a fully working escar wrapper, which is very nice. I'll put a link. There we go. All right, this is just a meeting notes from last week, where I wasn't there. So, maybe we can discuss that quickly or if no one else is there then can go over it. Yes revocation support is, well, at least in the wrapper. It's, it's, it's there. In the video as well. If J support, I think it's still just a holder site and not necessarily the issuer so only hold our fair fire if from. I hope I'm correct there, but I think Timo or Ariel would know that better than me. So I believe that answers your question. No problem. Let's see what was anyone at the last week's call because I wasn't there. There's anything we have to discuss from that. Okay. Okay. Does anyone have any agenda points for this meeting. Otherwise it might be a nice and short meeting for this one. No points. I think. Yeah, just have to figure out what we can talk about because I also don't really have any major points to discuss. Anyone has a PR open that they would like to talk about and we can go over that. I think. We can see the discussion on 04 release can check that quickly. These are all actually done as it seems. And this one is not being picked up close. Okay, yeah. Yeah, I think we're extremely close to a 040 release. I think we're from my side at least just waiting on the shared components until those are stable, really released. Integrate them. And then I think if it works in bifold with all the features that we've added we can do a 040 release and everyone can try it out in a stable version. Are there any people that already use the 040 alpha stuff with like the new API's for modules and everything. Because I was quite curious with how people felt about it because now it's, I would say it's a bit on one side it's a bit easier. The new API with the modules but on the other side it can get quite loaded like with registering all the credential formats and services. So curious if anyone has used it already. Maybe some feedback points or something. I haven't used it personally. I know that they're still working on figuring out support in bifold for lower versions of Android so it's, it's a bit of a work in progress, although Korean did show me the registration. I think you're right there's a trade off, but you get more modularity, which is awesome, because you're not having to use the entire framework if you don't need it. So, I think for now it works. It's a bit of upfront cost but then that means that you get a smaller build when you need it. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's also like the main reason why, why we did it. You know, this I think with the bbs library that we started to add more native dependencies. And some of them, most people didn't even need, like the inusdk was kind of unavoidable because fj before without the inusdk was, it was nothing. Yeah, bbs is not something that everyone wants to use, but they do have to like import like a whole native library which on react native, like they can stack up and your app becomes quite big. So, yeah, I think that that's that is a very good point like if we if we have such a small court and if you only need like a couple of things for example if you only need like an agent that can send messages so you want to make like a chat and you have no support for credentials or anything complex. Then you can just have like an agent with maybe some did come things and like an scar storage and you're done, which would make your app quite a bit smaller if you don't need like I'm crats and any VR and inusdk and the bbs signatures. One thing that I would like to take a look at maybe in the future somewhere is to see if we can create like bundles of modules, because I think especially if you like want to start working with a fj and you're new to the framework it can be quite daunting if you have to set everything up to to issue a credential. And then if you can just know we have some package in the extensions repo, and there we could have like just an object that would export all the different modules that you would need to to issue a unoccurred credential. And if we do it like that, then guides and everything it would be very simple to get to get started with. But you would still allow like the more like the more knowledge users to configure it exactly how you would like it, which has a lot of value of course that might be something we might be able to take a look at is right. I don't think we have any PRs to discuss it as well. I don't have anyone here with them up is here with an open PR. Yeah, I think it touches the actually an extremely short meeting. Unless like anyone has anything to add to the agenda like now. I'm okay with cutting it short. I don't think we have to sit there for another 14 minutes. Yeah, not really discussing anything, but if someone has something then please please say so and we can talk about that. All right, then I think we might have a record for the shortest afj meeting. All the time, which is, I guess also kind of impressive in some way. I think Dima should be here next next week again so I'm sure he will fill up the next meeting for an hour again. But yeah, I think we can just. Yeah, just just wrap it up and I'll see you all, I think next week then the next meeting. Take care. Thanks. Good bye. Bye bye.