 Hi everybody, thanks so much for coming As you may know This is devconf.us and we're really excited to have you and I Wanted to tell you a little bit about the conference and a little bit about me So I'm Langdon White and I am in I have a weird job now But basically I try to do some advocacy for Red Hat around some of our products You've probably seen me before because this is my third time running the show and So again, kind of thanks all for coming It's it's really tough to give a talk like this because you get very little feedback. So, you know kind of fair warning but Let me see if I can find my notes because that would be make this a little bit easier. So Devconf US devconf US is based on devconf CZ, which I think will be in its 12th year in January This is our third year running, but our first time doing a virtual conference. So Hopefully we'll be able to pull it off and it will be super cool So What I want to start with is basically some people who I've been able to pull in and Sally O'Malley and or Vashi and Mahan. I could never say your last name And each people each person is going to introduce themselves in a minute But I wanted to give a little bit of background about devconf in case you are unfamiliar with it. So We celebrate open source it this conference and what that means is not just open source software not just free as in beer but also the communities around it and how we want to grow those communities and by providing opportunities to speak and providing opportunities to go to a conference and You know kind of all those various things and so this conference is very focused on You know basically on new people. So this is an opportunity for people who've never given a talk before to come and give a talk This is an opportunity for someone who's never been to a conference to come and finally understand what the hallway track is We are very focused on developers But we also have a bunch of tracks that are around kind of the other aspects of open source software Like the process of creating it right or the user experience Differences when you're working in open source versus when you're working in a proprietary software company. So that's kind of a little bit of an introduction to devconf and hopefully some of you are new and some of you have been here before and Without further ado, I'm going to hand it off to one of my first co-chairs Sally O'Malley Hello Good morning Yep, I am Sally. I'm a software engineer working on an open shift By day organizing this virtual event by night Sometimes those lines get blurry I've been to many tech conferences But devconf it's special. It's about the speakers. It's about developers. It's about people Not products. It's about open source and our community and our ideas It's about what's next what we're trying out what we're working on. I was thrilled and honored to take on This role as co-chair this year Thank you all for being here and thanks for being you and for celebrating this community Urvashi tell us a little bit about yourself Hello, everyone. My name is Urvashi Monani I am a senior software engineer at Red Hat also working on open shift and also working on DevCon by night DevCon PS is actually very special to me as it was it's both the first technical conference that I attended and also the first 20 at which I gave a talk It it gave me a platform to talk about and share all the cool stuff that I get to work on And it set me up with some critical experience for continuing to present in the future As I entered the room two years ago I most definitely did not see myself being one of the coaches for deaf on us, but accidents can happen The journey so far has been amazing and I know deaf-bound will continue to have this impact on many others That is my conference buddy here, Mr. Eor So first of all, I would like to thank our truck captain for volunteering their time to create all the content You will be seeing throughout the conference. I would also like to thank the entire deaf-bound crew Everyone from event planning to session moderators to stress our partners This conference wouldn't be possible without you. So thank you all so so much for making this possible and Back to you Langdon All right clicking all the buttons So this is the part at the welcome that we try to give you a little bit about the how-to conference And so these are kind of some of the key highlights And we're going to kind of go through a few other points and kind of tips First off one thing I want to mention and if you haven't kind of figured it out by now The code of conduct for this conference is Important to us. Okay. It's not just a piece of paper as it were or digital papers or so The kind of core message we want to send is you know the Bill and Ted's external adventure be excellent to each other The idea here is that we have lots of new speakers. We have lots of new conference goers So if you want to provide criticism, it's usually appreciated However, you want to be careful about being constructive about it if you want to you know kind of communicate with somebody else at the conference You know, that's great And that's it really important to the conference, but again be respectful be constructive and those things are really important to this conference We want to make sure that this is a comfortable experience for everyone who's here So that they're ready and you know willing to kind of go to the next big conference And so that way we can You know kind of give you a baseline as a speaker or as an attendee about what's so great about conferences and how to manage those And so we need all of you to participate in that If you do have a problem with the kind of code of conduct like you you see something that you're uncomfortable with Please let us know You know, it's a lot easier to find us in kind of the global chat than it is Running around on the floor of a of a you know in-person conference So definitely reach out to us if you have any problems whatsoever and let us know if you have any trouble contacting The co-chairs, you know myself Sally or Vashi You know definitely check out the dev conf booth And so what we did this year to kind of have a help desk is we actually made a booth about the conference in the expo hall So if you notice in the navigation that is probably on your left of your browser Or it could be on the bottom depending on the size of the screen you have set up In it says expo and in that area that you'll find if you scroll down a bit you'll find the dev conf booth There is great information there for example some of the stuff that we're going to show right here and There's also always someone there to help you out. So if you have a technical problem you're You know, you're a speaker and you're worried about how to you know kind of run your show We can help you with whatever you need and You know basically just making sure that you can have a successful conference The other thing I want to point out is you know the the overlays I did using purely open-source software So it's an open-source kernel driver on fedora and then OBS on top of that and hopefully it's not going to fall over in the middle of this presentation But with all of that I wanted to hand it off to Sally who's going to talk a little bit more about how the conference works To add to that he has a script that he might share with you in the chat if you ask if you would like to also have those overlays But since it did crash I opted out for this conference So our conference is divided by tracks or rooms We cut we we wanted to keep it simple so you find the talk you want to go to in the schedule and each track And and then each session in the schedule has a video stream button that video stream button Will bring you back to the room in hoppin Each track or room. It's continuous sessions speakers attendees. They'll pop in and out all day It's similar to in-person events Between talks you'll hear the moderator and speaker talking about mics their slides And we encourage you to use the chat between sessions and we encourage you to ask questions in the chat during the sessions for the speaker So yeah, again, there's a video stream link in the schedule for each session that should bring you to the right room and hoppin The schedule is the source of truth to find the individual sessions So one other point our our speakers aren't professional video editors This some of them. This is their first time Giving a talk at all much less recording it. So please send them love encouragement make it positive When you when you attend the sessions However, I have previewed the talks and I'm blown away at how good they are I wish I could sit in every single session and just watch them all and that brings me to my final point After each session if there is a pre-recorded link It will be uploaded to that video stream button in schedule So after the sessions over that video stream will point to the pre-recorded session If the session was live, which some of them are you'll get the hoppin recording as soon as it's made available to us. I Think that those are my points. So Urvashi you have some more things. Yep I'm sure a lot of you will be having conversations after and or during the sessions So if you want to continue those conversations elsewhere, we have breakout rooms under the export tab for each track You can go there and share your audio video to have lively and respectful discussions We all need to keep our tummies happy So we have arranged for some delicious food and coffee throughout the conference to get access You just need to walk to your kitchen and grab some ha and that hopefully hilarious notes I'd like to announce that the desk once us party will be taking place today at 8 p.m. Eastern time We have a comedy show by Dianne Smith who has comedy specials on Netflix and broadcast television So please come and join if you want to have a good laugh and relieve the stress of the day Following the comedy show we have a show and tell we're looking to see absolutely anything cool collections dogs hidden talents dogs Not the hidden talents dogs Even if it's your wonderful faces We must you even if we've never met you before So please head on to the deaf from few years both after the keynote or the reception paid to sign up for the show and tell The deaf on us both also has the information that you need as a cues music playlist show and tell all that fun stuff So please visit the booth to access those or just to drop by to say hi to us and Finally the call for papers for deaf on CZ is now open and you can find a link to it at our deaf on few years But please send in all your awesome proposals so that we can meet again virtually in January I know mr. E or here is definitely looking forward to it And now Sally will introduce our next segment Thanks so And Now the time has come to officially kick off deaf cause us 2020 virtual edition I'm about to hand the mic over but not without a proper introduction Vincent bats or V bats. He's the is by title the chief technology officer at Kim folk Now on its mission page Kim folk states when you do open source, right? You don't do it alone. You do it in collaboration with the extended open source community It is so fitting that V bats is its CTO He's the maintainer and technical oversight board member of the open containers initiative He earns major cool points as a member of slack ware Linux's core team He was a docker maintainer maintainer for the fedora and rel go compiler the list goes on He has spent most of his life in Linux and open source Many of you know him and there's a reason for that as full as his plate always is as much as he contributes He is so approachable if you meet up with him You might have a talk about his parenting philosophies or his home network or his vision for a better world through open source He's genuinely nice and he's scary smart. We're so glad he's here If you have questions for Vincent, you can add them in the stage chat and he'll answer them at the end So, please welcome Vincent bats Oh my goodness, I should have turned on my video sooner so you could see me going. Oh, no but That's great Let me share my screen real quick here and then we will get off to the races But thank you everybody and I am so glad to be here and I'm Wish wishing that it could be in person. I've been to a number of the dev comp CZ's and All of the dev comp us's And even the dev one of the dev comp indias. They're wonderful so when when thinking about this talk and like Some of the topics that were kind of recommended and ways to be creative about chatting the best I the best Piece that I could think of, you know, especially given some of the things that have happened You know for everybody and for me particularly in the last year or so Is to look back at the golden thread and it's not like some definition meeting on what a golden thread is but Particularly we kind of refer to this and in my household and you know Loved ones of like looking at that that thing that thing that connects Either all of us or your history or whatever it is That's so fine, but you usually can only see that glimmering Piece of your own history in hindsight. So what is that golden thread? Sally holy moly knocked it out with a introduction. I've never had an introduction like that, but Honestly, I'm still hands-on keyboard individual contributor nerd and otherwise but have had a number of different dabblings over the years and I'll get into this more in a second but um, if if you Have questions or have had experience in any one of these things feel free to reach out to me because I'm I'm excited to Jump into pretty much any one of those pieces. So um real quickly One of the things that this talk, you know Is probably not going to be is any kind of Figurative literal chemical spiritual blowing your brains out your butts It's just not going to be that kind of a talk if at any point, you know, something is of use to you great I I pay a lot of respect and you know when teachers convey a message and there's a lot of responsibility in that And there's there's nothing precise that I'm saying that you should do or you know that will work for you Um, at best. I'm going to Try and honestly cover a little bit of what I found worked for me And probably some of the embarrassing things along the way that have gotten me here The the first thing is really that I'll talk a little bit about goals and This was like when when the topic came up of like well, you changed jobs this year and that's exciting and You you did it during a pandemic and that probably was not the smartest thing even even Chris right even said bless your heart Speaking very much to my alabama Raising But I even to go from a big company to a very, you know, small intimate Company at kinfolk So what what brought you here and this got me thinking a little bit further to What did get me here and and some of that is like there was a time 10 or 15 years ago that I wrote a 5 10 15 year goal for myself and this this is A little fluffy, but it's it's one of these things that Hey, I'm not a list making person. Um, I've gotten much better at it now, but I've never been good at list making So it was monumental to sit down and write a list. Um That was great But what were the kind of things on it and I don't have the original list anymore It it it was so Private to me that it kind of just it iterated for for a long time And at that time 15, this was closer to 20 years ago For me personally was to have more options than beans and rice um And along that same line is to not miss on uh rent or critical bills or otherwise, um, that's Very very very real to me. Um You know at the point at which you have to like sell off Uh musical instruments so that you can pay your rent is Not always an uplifting experience, but it will fortify uh motivation I I was working on open source in my off time and learning, you know learning and hacking on it, but The idea that you could ever make a meaningful contribution to a project was beyond me like I had no idea um I was mostly like what thing could I do, you know and Kind of an extension of that but like one of these penultimate things is like to get a commit into the kernel and like Whatever I had I had Wished and you know hoped to go out of the country at all Much less to actually have to do that for work Uh, and then I had a goal that one day probably, you know When i'm 40s and 50s years old um To be the cto, you know start a company and act as the cto of it Or whatever lead person whatever I had no idea what that would would entail but um, these were like kind of goals for myself um And so don't get me wrong. I I actually legitimately love beans and rice, but it is a very cheap meal and Thankfully, I did not ruin it for myself eating as much beans and rice as I did in fact it's still like a lot of beans and rice but So let's let's let's let's roll back just a little bit. Um I worked with my dad and my dad owned his own job self-employed lightning protection We cleaned hood and vent Hood and vents for kitchens and chimney sweep Whether that makes sense in alabama or not, uh, it meant a lot of bricklaying it meant a lot of dirt and filth and If you ever needed motivation for something that you would be like I you know Could I make money with computers? Probably into like the others fancy stuff But I just kind of like hacking on open source software and uh, I guess I'll pay my bills doing this Um, and that became motivation. Um So this is this is a unglamorous picture. There's probably other unglamorous pictures of this time, but um Whether I was singing chim chimini chim chimini in a ping-wantel tux and a top hat or this This is what it looks like um And on the side I would be involved in the local linux user group I was uh, in fact at some point we helped coordinate like an alabama lug fest and that was that side um The crazy part was that even even getting involved in like the linux user groups and talking to other ones across the state or even the southeast um Uh, I was blown away by how many people were similarly not you know, like software professionals by profession um, there were as people from being plumbers to tv technician repair people or um, even working like in the anatomy department of the university or whatever like none of them like very few of them were actually Like it software people And even those that were were mind-blowingly you know from You know all all the different kinds. Um, it was amazing and every time I showed up I was always asking lots of questions and I was uh um Impressed by who the experts in the room were and it was great and it was always like I was So eager to learn and effectively come home into my you know basement or whatever and find something to tinker on uh, and you know, basically create Challenges for myself to learn something to whether it was like automated installs or just running a wordpress website or I don't know what Um, and so then I'd go back and I'd find other people that knew more than I did in that particular area And I'd pester them with questions until they probably exhausted with me would send me to You know somebody else who knew knew more or whatever. Um, it was it was just a pattern But this was like after hour stuff and I don't think I realized how much I was um able to self learn Using basically the power and access the accessibility in open source Whether it's not just the people or what but just that you could self teach yourself Um, how to program or how to do any of the stuff and actually learn skills that were hireable um, that part was had not connected in my brain yet and It's something that only looking back like I I fully realized like oh I I taught myself how to run a database and therefore I eventually was paid to do these things And that Yeah, it's it was that was pretty Um Much a hindsight looking back thing And in that situation one of the patterns that I saw is that you're always seeking out the expert in a particular area And I think one of the good things that that did for me, uh, is because it was so low key And because I realized that the experts were frequently you know All different situations That they were all just regular people to me. Um, and that It it it made very real that sometimes these people that It treated like rock stars or whatever Celebrity in their own situation are also just people and they are like they just happen to know or have experience with the thing that you're Now trying to learn so Seek them out and One of the secondary side effects is this this got me very comfortable With the fact of not being the smartest person, you know in a certain situation Uh, or even further when you're finding yourself Trying to discover a new technology or whatever it is Or even a team that you're on later Like that sounds like work talk being on a team, but Is to not be the smartest person in the room Um, you can take this to mean some of that aspect of like humility But uh, I also mean this in like true literal sense of like if you want to Just learn stuff by osmosis and like be exposed to discussions that you might have no idea about and are interested in learning about Um, then then like put yourself into places where you're you no longer are the smartest person in the room So that you actively must listen Um and ask questions Uh, it's It is not always the most comfortable thing because that that as I was talking about in the second it it Frequently leads to awkward and effectively vulnerable situations. So There was an aspect of becoming comfortable with being vulnerable and uh It's not something that's easy, but and I'm not saying that you should do this because there's times to protect Vulnerability, uh, there's a time to not put everything in the world out there, but there's there's places where you're like um Effectively having to get a little comfortable with the fact that you're not the most company, you know, you're not the most smart person or whatever in the room and um Not everybody can do this and but that's that's fine because that mean, you know, we've all Witness the people that are like either uh defensive about what they know or defensive about what they don't know um, they might choose to be in an asshole about it and they'll make a name for themselves in that way and people will um Treat them accordingly. So, uh, you this is again Find what works right for you, but there is some aspect and at least the discussion topic around Allowing yourself this vulnerability um Because for me, I realized that it was this was a part of my iteration and The the crazy part was it at some point after exposing yourself in these situations and even in some places like I uh some of my first contributions to various projects were either simple like trying to get something to compile, but most often it was documentation and um There were times when yeah, obviously, I didn't know what I was doing, but uh, I was frustrated with um Trying to use something and I realized that it was the docs that were sucking not the Code was particularly bad itself um, and so I'd make changes to the docs and then there was this like massive role reversal at some point this the first one that came to mind when I was thinking about this was um making doc docs changes in the ssl c api bindings for ruby and uh, I was doing something with ssl tls and ruby at the time and The documentation was so bad. Oh gosh, it was so bad and uh, I effectively started filling out most of the docs for That library because uh, I I needed to use them and I was confident that they were So bad there was such a lack of documentation that I was going to misuse and probably implement the ssl tls stuff wrong just because the docs were bad and um That's fine. I was doing it for myself and then one day somebody pinged me to say That they were looking at like one version of ruby and were getting frustrated and then they you know The next release came out that actually had docs And it answered the problems that they could then like kind of retrofit to prior versions um, and they were they were so They were relieved enough about it that they were able that they were willing to find me on something like irc and let me know that I fixed a problem that they were having and immediately I realized that this uh resource of open source the successful resource of open source um is now something that I'm like I'm indebted to because it's it's like I have I have like this responsibility to That I've made a difference for somebody And I'm kind of like yeah, I have self taught myself and I've done so so until the point that somebody else recognized it and for me That was amazing and and I had had other times when obviously I'd like broken compiles and stuff like that It's it's people are more quick to tell you that you broke something than you fixed something but it was it was Uh, it was kind of a milestone for me. Um, that that you could like make a difference for other people and What I just said this but still that it became kind of this reciprocal relationship that not that I was making changes or improvements specifically for the greater good often it was because either I had contrived a challenge for myself Um or a use case or I was working for something that I actually wanted to see working and the side effects where that I helped others And that line got very gray a number of times and whatever it was that um Was the motivation at that time Still kept the purpose that I vencent bats was working on something and If if it was going to be beneficial then you know, it had to be good for everybody And that led me to the very very very real like reflection now that what you do and truly how you do it, um, whether you like Choose to make it good for both parties or at least engaging for both parties or Whether you like choose to be an asshole about it. That's your own choice. Um, what you do and how you do it does make a difference Something that I've found myself saying even to my kids is like you don't exist in a vacuum You don't exist in isolation. They're like it is we're all interdependent um and so you You can pursue your path and realize that you're having cascading effects on others and it might be years Before somebody comes back and says that time that you said something to me, you know You know or gave me this pointer or this encouragement years ago Made a difference. It might be so much in passing that you will never hear that But you must realize you don't exist in a vacuum at all um, so it gets a bonkers concept. I know but You must must realize that and uh, it's probably uncomfortable to think about it to some extent um, and so for me, I like like what is what is Making this difference and like I always went from tinkering on open source stuff and you know, my basement or whatever like area um To making like life commitments with a partner Um, uh wishing to eat whether it was beans and rice or otherwise Uh, at some point I was able to make a the switch from Sweeping chimneys and you know cheese louis I did door door cells and I'm Awaiting tables and stuff like that to getting like a job at the it department at a bank Um, that was monumental. It didn't pay good, but it was monumental for me because it was like somebody recognized that you were you had skills that They were willing to pay for Kids came along and around the same time Uh, not only did I get on with the bank it but I actually got denied because I had dropped out of university I thought university was ridiculous and so I was denied because I didn't I couldn't check a checkbox that I had a degree and I still also wanted to eat so um with kids and job and you know everything like this I also went back and finished university and um It it that process kind of hardened my motivation in that way and I really some of these words are so squishy. I can't believe I'm saying them, but it really For as add as I am and as much as I don't like making lists There's times when it's like, oh This is the reason that I'm you know like doing these things and It sometimes takes being real with yourself of like why it is that you're even doing that because without having Some kind of process and this is true for teams. This is why people teams do retros or whatever is like what worked What didn't work do this for yourself? and I I don't like having choices in life, but it's better that you make decisions for yourself like given a choice and You know like yeah, I don't like decisions. They're the worst Or choices, but it's better that you do that for yourself than Somebody else making that choice for you. And so sometimes you kind of like I realize there's times when choices are made for you, but I'm saying like Would I rather do this to improve myself or ignore it and uh, see what happens in five years Make the decision for yourself um Because and I don't mean like someone specifically but like The world life will make that decision for you and it's better that you be involved in the process Um, and so some of those big crazy choices for us were the jump from alabama to northern virginia dc area. Uh, that was a bonkers move arguably too big of a move because I liked the company that I was working for and I liked a lot of people that I Got to work with in that area, but it was a choice that I was quickly looking to change And I was looking to get closer to the blue ridge mountains Keep keep and maintain a pace and speed of mind that was important for us And there was just happened to be this little company in raleigh. So that was that was around 2012 um Worked at red hat for eight years and it Blew my mind like I never imagined Never never never never never imagined working uh for red hat. I always suspected that I would do Something for pay and I would hack on you know open source on the side and It was amazing and I don't I don't deter anybody from doing that um It it it it's it it was Yeah, mind blowing. I don't know what else to say the Big thing that it did do for me though Is it kind of crashed two worlds together because in my mind there were there was like a pretty little ribbon around one thing and a pretty little ribbon around the other thing and now it was like um I needed to find new hobbies because uh the stuff that I did after hours was now the stuff that I did during work And so it was way too easy to bring work home with me and there is kind of a benefit mix advantage to that but um Not to feel like you're you know Your your hobbies are now professionally motivated. I'm not always a firm believer of Um getting paid to do what you love like there's there's There's a personal and artistic and creative side of things and then there is um strict kind of like business to things also So I did get into I went back and found music again and it was great This is a picture of my grandfather and at some point over the years I came in contact with his accordion and picked that up for a number of years, but um that was one of the biggest things is that Kind of picking up and pulling these these music back into my life and there was other things I'm not a a big tv watcher. I actually have never been I don't I don't play I intentionally don't play a lot of video games either So if I'm not like outside in the woods and it's usually family and music and otherwise, but I'm making a firm delineation of things that are like work Whether it is open source for the fun and love of it, uh, or if it's actually something for my own self and well-being Um Because the the part that you must kind of keep in mind is that in open source We are all individual contributors and I hear that that term sometimes used is this like that's your role um like i'm an ic but Uh at the end of the day if you make you know Whatever comments on on an open source issue mailing list or whatever whatever That's your name that's attached to it And that will carry After you leave even if you create a github account that's per company. Uh, that's it's still you So these things are all interconnected even your self So there's there's a a a personal aspect to this and not just like And i'm not saying like don't do what's right for the company Also, um my point is that there is a personal burden of responsibility to do the right thing And uh, you'll feel that whether you're working during the day or the weekends or whatever And it's it's very very important even for your own mental health to stay true to that. Uh Because you'll you'll carry that with you um Big big funny thing. I mean like anytime that you have something that i like i'm i'm passionate about certain projects or i'm passionate about certain technologies Then you you are thrusting yourself to be in the room with smarter people Uh, you're you're destined for awkward situations. Um, so this i don't know if that's quite being vulnerable or what but like like you're destined to find yourself in awkward situations and uh That there's so many times when um Okay, so I did I ended up not going back to school for computer science It I was going I was working for a bank and they were willing to pay for an accounting degree. So I Went for like business and accounting. Uh, that's great. Whatever There's so much stuff that I I missed out on by not going to university for this and one of the first You know big challenges that I got to tackle when I had joined red hat was you know Kind of a compression situation. There was like this time when a x oven on Certificate was getting put put through an htp header and if it got too big it would get truncated and we got to Like fit more stuff in the smaller box uh And that was one of the times when I got my brain got wound around some axle and I was working on it on like Thinking about it in the nights and like woke up, you know thinking about this silly problem Not not because it was like a work initiative, but but just it was kind of a puzzle and I came into the office and started like describing the situation to the other people on the team and some of them like had masters in computer science and They were like Vincent you just described like various type like they like sent me wikipedia pages to like a radix tree or a huffman tree And I'm like this is exactly what we're talking like what we need to do and that you know It was totally like this was me like I was like, yay We found the problem and they're like this is textbook like you should you should have gone to college for this stuff but Thankfully we there were a lot of smart people in the room and this is something that later turned into like a patent with a few people involved and It was not just radix and huffman trees, but a few other things but You know if I had gotten defensive and you know yelled and screamed that like why don't anybody tell me these things The situation could have gone poorly, but it kind of embraced that that awkwardness and ability to laugh it off and something might come out of it so Uh other times that that that I think Similar things have happened is that because I approach You know have approached things in a situation where you can kind of laugh it off or at least like brainstorm with the smarter people is that sometimes your ideas get mixed into their ideas and Um, this is one that I can't say works for everybody Um, because I think that people should always get their attribution but Do realize that it's almost like a form of flattery that if if you put yourself in the situations with people that sometimes The the good outcome that actually solves the problem Might be part of your idea, but it might be somebody else's implementation of it And you can hope and wish and hopefully you'll have uh advocates there that will make sure that you get Uh, recognized for those things, but um, the the end of the day At least for me one of the biggest important things is that the right solution was arrived at Even if it was somebody else's implementation. So This is this kind of border borderlines on that vulnerability piece that it's The the best possible, you know, you know a very good outcome Even if things could have been better. So, uh, realize that those things are kind of Mixed up together um So in in kind of a recap It it really does become kind of an indebted responsibility I could not have done anything that I've you know done without Uh open source, you know, my my fine golden thread would have been completely different Um, and then how how to engage in those situations Is kind of a constant reflection process and allowing yourself The space to space and humor to do that like Find your humor and how how it works together Um, and then lastly, like I said motivations that that word still sounds so squishy to me But it is how I prioritize like what is the most important thing right now And the most important thing right now might be just the person that you're sitting with Not your list of to-dos but The way and the nature and the topic and how you're helping them to make it actually useful Is still part of that motivation. So find what's important and That that is what I mean by the looking back at at the golden thread and to be honest with yourself And Is even to acknowledge all the other things that I can tell you that um Part of even why I keep saying this is what worked for me and doesn't work for other, you know, you know, whatever Is that there are always other things that factor into it and you know, like I I cannot rule out the fact that there is privilege that plays into this, you know, and and there is It's not just dumb luck And you know, I can't say that it like there was a lot of hard work and whatever but And I'm not saying that I've arrived either Jesus Christ Like I'm I'm just saying that like when you look back at what got you to where you are be very real with yourself Because if I want and also to acknowledge that, you know, how best to help others is to acknowledge things like Your your life situation privilege and otherwise then You might be completely tone deaf to even engage with other people. So this this is part of that hindsight as well and realizing that It's a constant education process and it's a constant improvement process. So um Yeah, with that, I think most people It Feel free to reach out to me find me. Um, and with that, I think we might be able to take a few questions But otherwise, thank you, uh, Vincent, you're awesome as I pointed out before your talk And I've been following the chat the stage chat and it's just So what I can say is that your story resonates for so many. That's exactly what karsten wade said Actually, I took his quote your story resonates for so many People were just so excited to hear that like they could see themselves in you and Um, among us we found out we have former chefs. We have seven eleven managers Um myself. I was a trader joe's cashier for a decade Um flash website builder. Yeah, somebody admitted to doing jeff ligan um, so, yeah Not so many questions. Just you really, um Prompted this amazing dialogue in the chat that you couldn't see but we were all just Just like sharing with you the fact that we're we're all in this together and Thank you for being so honest and being yourself and um for me a quote that came into my mind while I was Listening to you was that every day I'm at work at work being like right here in my in my house but and And I say like, um, you know, I know I've made some good choices in my life when I'm at doing my work at work and I'm like Thinking I can't believe I get paid for this Because I think that every day like I'm doing my my work. I can't believe I actually get paid for this. This is so awesome and it And and like you um, it took me so long to figure that out. Um, well into my 30s, you know, well past Yeah, I just Yeah, and and even that one like it is there's always a don't don't ever think that you you missed the opportunity My whole life. I would yep. I would be frustrated. I'd be like gosh I should you know, I wish I would have done this But you said in hindsight you can look back and when you're when you're at a place you can look back and say Oh, like I had to go through all of that stuff before because it's what brought me here So yeah, I just yeah I mean like it would be An all it would be a much longer talk, especially as as I would want to hear everybody else's stories But when you start realizing like Even the little things of like, oh, yeah, I did you know have exposure to this kind of personality for a long time I guess that fully prepared me for now exposing being you know dealing with these other kind of personalities now Or this you like you start looking back at those kind of conversations and realizing that Things have prepared you for this moment right now. So yeah, I just have to add McDonald's janitor in the house cabinet maker Yes, so Yeah, and they're they're unglorious, but at some point you realize that they factored in that you're like And I think I love most about it. Is it like So many folks were like willing to get their hands dirty because they they even it like in code But it's because they've like I've had so much worse than this like This is this is great and I'm excited to be here because I've had so much worse than this like So thank you so much and um with that Actually, we oh my gosh, we're like on the dot of when we were supposed to close so Urvashi and Langdon you can come back on And let's close this keynote out and uh, thank you so much Uh, please everybody find us on the chat And joy look around if you're confused about anything I know exactly rich is like how'd you get a star like vincent to you know Oh Yeah, yes, thank you. Okay What's yours and I'm I'm excited and I look forward to uh hanging out with everybody again Future in person. Thank you. So all right guys Let's get this conference started Joy everybody, we hope it's great. Yep. We hope you have a great time